NieR Automata pulled on my heart strings hard, but NieR Replicant had a deeper pull. Automata was like losing friends. Replicant/Geshalt was like losing family, again.
A lot of people played Automata first, but, I'm glad I wasn't one of them. I feel that having played Replicant/Gestalt first made Automata all that more impactful for me, because I caught all the callbacks (even the music) and connected lore and storybeats. [Automata Spoiler Alert] Seeing Emil again brought tears of joy, and seeing his questline's story and recalling back all that he started to remember, was such a beautiful experience that newcomers to the series would've missed out on. Not to mention understanding Popola and Devola's plight, knowing why humanity was extinct, and exploring the library near the end, gave so much more meaning to Automata's narrative. I still hold Replicant/Gestalt's story in higher regard, but, Automata just has so much more impact when you've played the first game beforehand.
@@Chocomunchie Yes the music of both was next level and I did replay Automata after Replicant and it made me realize I mis-appreciated Emil the 1st time around.
For me replicant didn't hit as hard. Replicant didn't feel like I or the main cast lost anything. The game felt strangely devoid of suffering for the main cast. Automata felt like I truly lost loved ones. I guess they just have different focuses. Replicant focuses on the cruelty the main character inflicts on those around him in his belligerence and ignorance. Automata focuses on the cruelty the world indifferently curses upon the main cast. Replicant has a whole guilt trip angle it takes in route B, and Automata has a whole grief angle it takes in route C. I'd best describe replicant and Automata in their similar but different storytelling angled as this: replicant is about what people will do to protect what they love, and Automata is about what people will do when they've lost what they love.
@@trevorveillette8415automata has an alright cast while gestalt has the best cast in gaming that's why it hits way harder. Tho tbf you played the remake so your experience was butchered
8:32 that's actually incredible, didn't expect that, the German one is the Berliner Fernsehturm, such a neat detail! Ah and the Ost used in the background is already so beautiful! I only own a Ps4 so the decision isn't too hard, still thanks for this video! It was much more informative than I initially thought :)
Playing Nier Automata right now, played the original Nier back around 2018-2019. Definitely gonna check out this newer updated version once it gets fairly cheap.
What a wild ride. I just got Replicant 1.2 and was having a blast and thought to myself I wonder what the older first game is like, not knowing I was playing a upgraded version of the original. Im new to this series so I thought it was gonna be a sequel or something to automata or something, which I still need to play. And then I find out theres 2 versions of the original.
I'm glad you started with Replicant/Gestalt before Automata. You're gonna enjoy Automata a lot more because of it. People who start with Automata miss out on a lot of callbacks and recurring lore, characters and story from the first game. Have fun. You're in for a hell of a ride, if you still haven't played it yet.
@@MataVacas7000I'd also recommend drakengard 1. Achieving ending E makes the beginning of replicant more poignant, and the state of the world by automata even sadder and stranger.
I did not know the combat had been updated when I got the remaster. I just thought "Wait, I swear it wasn't this fluid. And I can do this? And like this? What's happening?". I didn't even finish the PS3 version cuz I was so bad at it but now I'm enjoying the remastered version. I kinda really like the changes to the OST too.
I picked this up on the PS3 cause it looked like a wonderful fusion of Dark Soul's and Final Fantasy. I wasn't disappointed but the story really confused me but I see now why it did. Totally picking up this gem again. Thanks for the video. 😁
Have you ever heard of Drakengard? It's mostly locked to PS2 and the combat isn't for everyone but it has a really engrossing world and story that leads into Nier. I'd recommend checking it out if you don't mind mindless gameplay. It's one of my favorite games of all time
@@amaterasumaster8781 Yeah I played Draken Guard. Got into fights with my brother cause I was playing on his TV when I was off work. 😝 The 2nd one confused the heck outta me but it was still fun. 😁
I'm a fan of Dad Nier, personally. Plus Jamieson Price's booming voice was iconic. I get that Japan holds brother-sister relationships in high regard, but, father-daughter relationships hit harder for me. Before the remaster was announced, I was hoping they'd do one, and had fingers crossed they'd allow us to choose between Young and Old Nier, but, alas. Still neat to get to play as Young Nier in the west for once, and the improvements the remaster brought are absolutely welcome. I guess I gotta stick to the DLC to play Dadboi.
It's still possible to change the date in NieR Replicant Ver.1.22 for the garden (at least on Xbox One in my case). It just requires you to have the system set to offline mode and restart the console
@9:55 yeah, I'm pretty sure they just ported over the updated versions they had made for Automata and just brought them back into Replicant because I don't really hear any differences in the tracks by comparison. Makes sense, since doing so saves both time and development funds, and I don't really see a point in updating the tracks yet again.
Tbh, i love Gestalt, in all of its janky glory. Grumpy Nier just plays so well off of Kaine and Weiss. And the idea of ||A father trying to save his daughter|| is just so much more compelling to me than a Brother, though that is just my feelings on it. But i disagree that the narrative is "vastly" catered toward Brother Nier. The narrative of Nier makes much more sense and has a much higher emotional impact with Gestalt than Replicant. SPOILERS . . . . . . . . . . . . . FINAL WARNING . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Just look at Emil's transformation scene, Kaine's reawakening, or Kaine's confrontation at the end. It all just flows so much better with Father Nier. Plus Nier and Weiss bickering like an old married couple is *chef kiss*
I too think that father Nier is overall a better character and makes the game experience better as well. but as some things work so much smoother with Papa Nier, some don't. not that much, at least. think of Devola and Popola: they're parental figures for both Yonah and Brother, while for Papa they're mostly like... friends? also they're twins, and the games revolves a lot on the "siblings relationship" theme. think of the blacksmith and his younger brother who both live near the junkyard. moreover, the latter one "grows out" alone after his older brother's death; exactly like young Nier. and, you know, they both become kinda obsessed over something due to the loss. in any case, I do think Papa Nier is still better. it wasn't in the original Yoko Taro's script, but he definitely fits better in the overall narrative, even despite the inconsistencies aforementioned. I would love an update for the remake that makes you choose which one to impersonate, but sadly that just won't happen
Though Brother NieR would make more sense with his appearance, Emil having a crush on him and that "We're friends now" moment, it's really strange to hear an old man talk about being friends but yeah, Father NieR is just as compelling.
@@InktheImpassive People always bring the "We're friends now" moment, but with Papa Nier I've never interpreted that in the same manner as the scene with Brother Nier. Like, that scene comes across as naive with Brother Nier, like he was genuinely talking about being friends, like anime protagonists and all the baggage that entails. Papa Nier has the simple virtue of being older. That changes the context of the scene, even if it is identical. We are seeing not a naive boy, but a husband that lost his wife, has a dying daughter that he barely sees due to trying to find a cure for her, and is seeing someone basically give up life in front of his eyes. I don't interpret that as a genuine friendship speech, but more like a desperate attempt at stopping someone he barely know to stop giving up living.
I have the 3 versión, Gestal, Replicant and Replicant 1.2, all the saga of Drakengard and Nier Automata yorha edition, and every single one have something special
Just completed Replicant a moment ago, the changes are very nice, especially combat, and the additions are surely neat. But I really have to say that I definitely prefer the ps3 version of the OST. The re-arranged one didn't hit me as much.
@@Akechifanthat would actually be Automata, but gestalt and replicant ver 1.22 can fight tooth and nail for 2nd place. They both have songs that are better done than the other. It sucks to have to pick for essentially the same game.
I bought Nier Replicant ver 1.22 on launch, but I've yet to even put in the disk. I have too much attachment to Papa Nier and I've just been replaying Nier Gestalt the entire time. While the ver 1.22's quality of life features sound nice, as the video stated at the end, it had fans already for a reason. The game works as is even if some of the buttons are weird. I was just happy to support the Nier series some more.
Even though I do love the remake and never played the original. I do wish that the original release was sold along side. I like comparing versions. And this one would be more interesting considering brother and father nier
Ive played original in 2011. Believe me, You dont wanna go back to that version. Godlike OST, voiceacting and story are there, but the rest... yea. I fully agree with mediocre scores for that game.
@@m4rcin847 but isn't it sad that comparing the 2 isn't an easy thing to do for yourself? And the remake is mainly good for the characters and story. Sure, the gameplay is improved for the most part. But it gets boring over time. I've played a bit of the original. The combat is fine but a bit boring. But the enemies are exactly the same in both
@@teneesh3376 Combat is way better in the New one, more fluid, responsible. And The animations, my god, that really sucks in the first one. Its boring over time? You can tell that about every single game.
@@m4rcin847 yeah but Nier especially since getting ending D requires you to replay the second half nearly 4 times. 3 if you do a little save cheating. But mainly, the combat doesn't really improve over time. Sure, you get a bit more magic spells. But they are so unbalanced that you would mainly stick to 2 or 3 throughout the entire game. Lance on normal, shield and execution on hard. I'm not dumb, I know the combat is better in the remake. But Nier has always been more than just the combat. But some things I would say is done better in the original. Cutscene animation is better (mainly in the eyes), and the colour and atmosphere can be better in the original. Though honestly, both Nier's are hard to recommend considering the big pacing issue
God, I'm so torn. Nier is one of those games (many, many games) that has sat in my backlog for ages, along with Automata and all three Drakengards, for that matter. When the remaster was announced, I figured "well, I'll play the original first, and then play 1.22 down the line after that," what with wanting to experience how the game evolved, play as both protagonists, etc. But then I find out that dad Nier was corporate-mandated, and combined with the QoL upgrades and additional content/better graphics... I'm thinking maybe my first encounter with Nier should be the newer release. :S It's a conundrum.
I love NieR Gestalt, IMO even if it was a corporate decision they make a great work, papa NieR the personality was great, but saying that if you haven't play any you should totally go with this new version, it's kinda the same but they really polish and make it better than ever
Put it this way. The gameplay in og Nier is super dated. So if you play Replicant and try to go back to og Nier, it might feel even worse. If you intend on playing og Nier for that sweet Papa Nier experience, then play it first imo.
No dude, play the replicant remaster. Its not worth it to play through the jank of the original. Also papa nier doesnt even make much sense as the story was masterfully written for brother nier. Like the whole of chapter 1 you do mondane, boring jobs for cheap because the people feel bad for the kid that has a sick younger sister living alone, so they find safe odd jobs to help them out. But in chapter 2 he grows up and is known for killing shades so you get more killing related quests that pay like 30 times more. That shit doesnt make sense with papa nier so you just do shit fetch quests for no reason whatsoever and people start treating you different just because you have an eyepatch? Also many dialogues are weird, like the drunk woman trying to hit on you but you are a teenager and then hitting on you when you grow up or emil having a crush on the monstrosity that is papa nier's face and calling him "very cool" lmaoo. Its not worth it playing the original. Also replicant has many QoL stuff alongside the waaaay improved gameplay and combat (you move a lot faster for example), it also has DLC and a new ending. And you DO NOT want to get all the endings to og nier and then nier replicant remaster... that would be...kinda torture. Doing all the mondane stuff in the game is BORING AS FUCK. Nier replicant vers. 1.245754 gameplay and pacing is not as good as automata's.
Kinda wished that the pc version had cutscenes capped at 30 but still have gameplay at 60 and higher. The cutscenes were made with 30 fps in mind and didn't have proper lip sync for English dialogue. And in 60fps, you can really see it. But gameplay should be 60fps and higher
Though 1.2 is a graphical improvement, I wouldn't say it's better. Sure, textures are higher quality and there can be more detail in environments. Sometimes the lighting and colours do look better in the original. It's a case by case basis. But also when it comes to the faces, some animation data was lost or didn't translate as well. It's the eyes in some scenes. Not emoting as well as it did before
I'm 50/50 that is... until we get a Gestalt ver 1.22422474487139 DLC cause right now the most we have a mod that replaces Brother Nier with Papa Nier, and I don't know how long it'll be until someone makes a mod that is basically Gestalt ver 1.22422474487139, cause we've got pretty much everything we need for it, including voice lines (although it originates from the PS3/Xbox 360 Nier Gestalt)
@@slobertooth1358 Brother Nier just... Doesn't click with me and almost actively deters me from wanting to play the game. The 1 thing I think he has over dad is the timeskip, his design and all just... Doesn't click with me. Plus, I'm just personally burnt out on sibling stories between playing Astral Chain and Last Remnant recently
The Remaster is better because it has more graphic! The additional gameplay is bullshit because it doesnt make sense that I have to play the game a fifth time for no reason.
never played the original western or asian release but i can tell the graphics gameplay and music are all on par with Automata! id even say voice acting is miles better thanks to Grimoire Weiss! i havent looked up who it is yet but know hes done a hella lotta anime and his lines in game are quality. prob my fave character from Nier and Drakengaard
@@whiterabbit8243 your deffo more weeb when you know, then assume I should know as much about Naruto voice actors just because my profile picture is from naruto..
@@kato093 I'm talking about the original games, which had the same graphical fidelity. Not the remaster. I mean if anything, Gestalt looked better when it ran on the 360. He said "looked" so I couldn't tell if he was saying Replicant on PS3 looked better than Gestalt on PS3, or if he was saying that the new Replicant looks better, which goes without saying lol.
Special K is a free software to tweak and fix broken pc ports basically but it can do way more, you can find it easily. You should probably start with Replicant 1.22, Nier Automata is the sequel.
For your comment about mistranslations. It's just straight up not the case, all the English dialogue was retranslated back into Japanese for the Gestalt subtitles.
Color limiter is turned on in the ps3 version, disable it to get the better picture and you'll see that the ps3 colors look the same if not better than the xbox version. Ps3 always had a stronger black color compared to xbox when the limiter is off
Gotta say, I've been playing both versions for the first time recently, and the only changes I think I truly dislike are that some soundtracks lose their original feel or get swamped entirely in effects until they're no longer fun to listen to (e.g. Temple of Drifting Sands) - though that's bound to happen with these sorts of things - and that some of the reworked maps lose their original sense of scale.
It would've been nice if they brought the father back, so u can pick between playing as the father or the brother. I don't think it would've taken a lot of additional work tbh
I don't get why people say the narrative doesn't fit papa Nier. IRL I would expect a father to do all he could to help his sick child and then do everything in his power to get her back after she is kidnapped. To not stop looking for her until his dying breath. With a brother, I would not blame him for resenting looking after a sick sibling. I would understand if he decided to move on with his life after searching for his sister with no luck. For all he knows she could have already died from her illness. It's harder for me to believe that a brother would still be very actively focused on looking for his sister after five years with no leads. And with regards to Kaine and Emil, I think an older more experienced man of the world fits a little better as an understanding father figure to them, although I admit brother Nier is better as a romance option.
I don't necessarily care myself, but I can see why people would say Father Nier doesn't fit. The story was written for a younger protagonist. Father Nier says and does many naive and immature stuff that an adult would never say or do. So, his character comes off as awkward when a 30-50 year old man throws tantrums like a child. Also, Kaine and Emil both have a crush on Nier, so it's even more awkward when a man old enough to be Kaine's father has a puppy love romance with her. And, I don't get why people play down siblings caring for one another. Yonah is his only family left, why would he just ditch her? Real life people don't just do that. As an older sibling myself, I certainly wouldn't just leave my siblings to die... That sounds sociopathic to me. Family is family. This is from a Japanese person who shared some insight from their point of view that I agree with: "Congratulations, the remaster is now available. I read the comments with interest. It seemed to me that the plots preferred by the Japanese are different from the plots preferred by many people here. We certainly prefer young protagonists. However... In a story about a father trying to save his daughter, it's a bit unappealing. Even more so when the character is a tough guy. We think of it as his "duty" to do so. But that's not the case with a brother and sister. We would perceive the act more as "self-sacrifice" and "devotion" than as a duty. This is even more true if the sibling is a minor who may still need a guardian. This "self-sacrifice" and "dedication" is also symbolic about Kaine and Emile. Perhaps we surely like tragic stories (but it depends on the individual)."
@@jase276 Laye but... Man I disagree with that Japanese fella. The whole thing with the brother and sister is less appealing to me. While sure there's the self-sacrifice with the brother, how does the father NOT have that? It may seem as "duty" but that doesn't devalue the love of a father committed to go to the literal ends of the world for his only child, wishing her a better future. It's more than likely cultural differences but in the end brother just feels... Too over the top for me? Different strokes for different folks either way.
@@MaximumAddition you didnt understand what he was saying, because you're actually validating what he is saying. Hes explaining that for a father to protect his child is a duty, while for a brother to sacrifice his whole life is more tragedic and sad. The emotional impact is bigger, specially considering how young he started doing it. It also make the whole story more believable. Its super cliche to have a super strong muscly dad protecting his young daughter, weve been fed this for decades in the west. Now to get a litteral child protecting another child, it makes the situation way more tragic and actually apocalyptic (since theres no one else to protect and save everyone, its so bad that theres only another child to step up and do the right thing and he HAS to do it, showing how bad the situation is for an immature kid having no choice but try to save whats left of humanity vs the "im a man a strong muscly man and i will save everyone" cliche of every american movie ever). You are also sadly validating what sqaure usa was saying, that westerner cant understand this and need something more traditional and dumbed down for them to get into it.
@@jase276 "yes, thats right. we're friends now!" *while simultaneously awkwardly looking around and shifting like a lost child* that scene was so cringey, like why would a father give a shit if he's friends or not with some hussy? he gives off a vibe that it's him and his daughter against the world.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the reason they change the protagonist into an adult because JRPGs were seeing as kiddie games due to the success of Western RPGs, seeing how you always play as adults? Therefore, they were becoming less popular in North America and we had to beg the developers to bring them over. Nowdays that's not the case, but I remember back then how JRPGs popularity was decaying in NA at least and how that was stressful for us who wanted to play those games.
Why did they cap the resolution on the consoles? I have it for the Series X and my PC, but I can't stand the lower resolution and choppy cutscenes. For sure wasn't getting it for the PS5. I know it's been out awhile still hope it gets patched though. My 3060ti does the job though!
I personally like the only protagonist, yeah you can tell the story was written for the younger but as a father I can relate to the idea of doing literally anything to save my daughter. Plus his VA is much better than the younger imo.
the only thing I would say Is when I was playing nier replicant ver... it felt like kaine was kinda toned down on her swearing unlike gestalt(or it could just be me) and another thing is when I was playing replicant nier and grimoire weiss weren't as talkative as much as nier gestalt. just small things and not really anything that actually changes the game but still something noticeable( I think).
nier and grimoire not talking as much is a big deal. it weakens the bond between nier and weiss which ultimately makes new fans question weiss's decision towards the end of the game.
Replicant looks really nice and the soundtrack sounds great, too. Only thing I prefer in the 'original' (currently going for platinum/replaying Nier Gestalt on my PS3) is the way Kainé looks. Even if in replicant her look is more faithful to concept hard it'll take some getting used to for me. As long as Laura Bailey voices her, though, she can be nothing but awesome xD
Well it made sense they changed her look to fit more Retconned with automata 2B and especially A2 considering there based on her existence especially more so A2 who still carries her memory’s no wonder A2 was the real main anti heroine of Automata by its end lol
So technically you're right. In the original Japanese release NieR Gestalt was exclusive to Xbox 360, but when brought outside of Japan Gestalt was the one ported over to PS3 for the worldwide release.
I prefer having a main character that doesn't look like a hobo that takes steroids and snorted crack while consuming extreme amounts of alcohol all at once.
You make it sound like there are no real fans of the Gestalt version. But when I remember playing it back in the day, I felt like the father and daughter had a greater relationship than the brother and sister. Then again, I had no idea they made a different game from the PS3 and Xbox 360 until recently. Been playing the 1.2 version and it has been hard getting over the fact I am not playing as the father.
Man, the remixed music simply does not do the original soundtrack any justice. Terrible shame it wasn't included to switch between the two. Wonder if they also fixed the mistranslation of Kaine's flashback text sequences too. Least they included dual audio, so that's a plus.
I'll give the remake a try if there's a mod to bring back the original face models and music. Don't really like the new faces leaning too hard on the Automata look. And the remade soundtrack is meh compared to the original. I've already played through Replicant on my modded PS3.
Personally, I preferred the premise of the story more playing as a father than a brother. It's true that the narrative supports the younger protagonist, but playing as a father broke free of what I think has become a bit too cliche for a lot of Japanese games with teenage protagonists, as if older heroes are just too unrelatable, or uninteresting. That said, I think Western games eventually started using father figures a bit too often in games after this, to the point where I think it's cliche now, too. I guess I just like the idea of a Japanese story with a central father figure, as it feels like good shift in perspective from the norm. If the narrative was tweaked a bit to suit a father more than an older brother, I do think that would be the better way to portray the story. Because of that, I do hope they make the father DLC with the VA returning.
Yeah. I ate a cookie and I thought right in that moment: Why is there even chocolate in it? I ate the chocolate and I thought about that I like chocolate a lot! So it was a yummy cookie! It was a chocolate cookie if you didnt get it.
Can u get the ps3 nier replicant in the us or is it only in Japan because i want to give the old nier replicant a try and i dont really want to play gestalt because i don't really like the main character
If you mod your PS3 you can play a translation of the Replicant version, it's not very accurate tho. They used a lot of text from gestalt and that has a lot of changes.
"A necessary upgrade to the original game" Nah fam, thats a remaster. Updated models, cleaned up combat, and better lighting/ textures, but the original gameplay is preserved. Replicant 1.22 is 100% a remaster
They should've stayed with the Gestalt MC imo. Its just a breath of fresh air to have a grumpy old dude as a protagonist on a fantasy JRPG. I havent played a lot of JRPGs tho, there are probably more JRPGs who has a grumpy old dude as a protagonist.
Personally I I find the new version better in just about every way. Specially the gameplay. I was never really a big fan of old man nier. And mad af when I learned the Japanese version was the intended version, and featured a different character, that i found out gets cooler after a time. I suppose they made the right call considering it seems most people prefer the old man. I've always preferred the original vision of someone's work over somthing that's been...revised. Kaine looks so beautiful in the new version. She was fine in the old one. But I think this new one really brings out the artists Visage of her. Same for nier. Epically when he ages. His design is badass. I'm glad they changed his durpy hair also lol. Music. I'm good either or. Both are just some of the most beautiful music I've ever heard.
I like how original young Nier was apparently half Chocobo.
I'm not going to lie, I've nearly 100%'d the new version of the game and I wasn't even aware you could drift on a boar
forget drift on a boar i dont even know you could ride a boar
*_there was a game after Drakengard?!_*
@@milesprower6110 wait there was a video game?
@@johnjonson6377 wait there was a video?
@@YikesHehe there was ?
NieR Automata pulled on my heart strings hard, but NieR Replicant had a deeper pull. Automata was like losing friends. Replicant/Geshalt was like losing family, again.
A lot of people played Automata first, but, I'm glad I wasn't one of them. I feel that having played Replicant/Gestalt first made Automata all that more impactful for me, because I caught all the callbacks (even the music) and connected lore and storybeats. [Automata Spoiler Alert] Seeing Emil again brought tears of joy, and seeing his questline's story and recalling back all that he started to remember, was such a beautiful experience that newcomers to the series would've missed out on. Not to mention understanding Popola and Devola's plight, knowing why humanity was extinct, and exploring the library near the end, gave so much more meaning to Automata's narrative. I still hold Replicant/Gestalt's story in higher regard, but, Automata just has so much more impact when you've played the first game beforehand.
@@Chocomunchie Yes the music of both was next level and I did replay Automata after Replicant and it made me realize I mis-appreciated Emil the 1st time around.
For me replicant didn't hit as hard.
Replicant didn't feel like I or the main cast lost anything. The game felt strangely devoid of suffering for the main cast.
Automata felt like I truly lost loved ones.
I guess they just have different focuses. Replicant focuses on the cruelty the main character inflicts on those around him in his belligerence and ignorance.
Automata focuses on the cruelty the world indifferently curses upon the main cast.
Replicant has a whole guilt trip angle it takes in route B, and Automata has a whole grief angle it takes in route C.
I'd best describe replicant and Automata in their similar but different storytelling angled as this: replicant is about what people will do to protect what they love, and Automata is about what people will do when they've lost what they love.
@@trevorveillette8415automata has an alright cast while gestalt has the best cast in gaming that's why it hits way harder. Tho tbf you played the remake so your experience was butchered
8:32 that's actually incredible, didn't expect that, the German one is the Berliner Fernsehturm, such a neat detail!
Ah and the Ost used in the background is already so beautiful!
I only own a Ps4 so the decision isn't too hard, still thanks for this video! It was much more informative than I initially thought :)
I recognized it because I know there are other countries around my country.
great video. they definitely did amazing work on the 'version upgrade'. enjoyed every second i spent on it all the way to the platinum trophy.
Original platnium was near impossible
OST is 10/10 as always. Drakengard remake when? 🤭
Yoko Taro making me play all his games backwards lol.
I think they said tomorrow
Lmao, Soo much of drakengard would not fly today 😂
First two would work really well with a kind of Warriors gameplay style.
Likely never unless you want a whole bunch of things cut and for it to no longer really be DOD
Playing Nier Automata right now, played the original Nier back around 2018-2019. Definitely gonna check out this newer updated version once it gets fairly cheap.
I recently bought a PS4 physical copy from gamestop and had it shipped to my house under $30 I think it was $20 something.
It's on sale rn
It's on sale again now, both on PS5 and Xbox Series X
If you’ve made it this far, It’s now free on ps plus. Congrats 🎉
Its on ps plus
First time im hearing correctly that both versions were indeed released in Japan. Nice job:D
What a wild ride. I just got Replicant 1.2 and was having a blast and thought to myself I wonder what the older first game is like, not knowing I was playing a upgraded version of the original. Im new to this series so I thought it was gonna be a sequel or something to automata or something, which I still need to play. And then I find out theres 2 versions of the original.
I'm glad you started with Replicant/Gestalt before Automata. You're gonna enjoy Automata a lot more because of it. People who start with Automata miss out on a lot of callbacks and recurring lore, characters and story from the first game. Have fun. You're in for a hell of a ride, if you still haven't played it yet.
Hmm , i would reccomend you to play drakengard 3 , its like other saga that is related with nier
@@MataVacas7000I'd also recommend drakengard 1. Achieving ending E makes the beginning of replicant more poignant, and the state of the world by automata even sadder and stranger.
I did not know the combat had been updated when I got the remaster. I just thought "Wait, I swear it wasn't this fluid. And I can do this? And like this? What's happening?".
I didn't even finish the PS3 version cuz I was so bad at it but now I'm enjoying the remastered version.
I kinda really like the changes to the OST too.
I kinda like the faces in the old games, kainés and brother NieRs. They have a distinct shape and eye shadowing that's not carried over.
Father Nier best
Yeah, but you gotta admit the expressions on the old games are kinda stiff looking
@@kirakira_san Thry had more expressions than the new ones,everyone looks "artificial"
@@ntz752 stop lying to yourself lol
@@koolaidmansam8yearsago273 Enjoy your expressionless dolls
"Which version of Nier Replicant should you buy" - Shows Nier Gestalt
Papa Nier is the best
Papa nier is my favorite.
Papa Nier for life!
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papa nier is coming back in dlc!
I picked this up on the PS3 cause it looked like a wonderful fusion of Dark Soul's and Final Fantasy. I wasn't disappointed but the story really confused me but I see now why it did. Totally picking up this gem again. Thanks for the video. 😁
Have you ever heard of Drakengard? It's mostly locked to PS2 and the combat isn't for everyone but it has a really engrossing world and story that leads into Nier. I'd recommend checking it out if you don't mind mindless gameplay. It's one of my favorite games of all time
@@amaterasumaster8781 Yeah I played Draken Guard. Got into fights with my brother cause I was playing on his TV when I was off work. 😝 The 2nd one confused the heck outta me but it was still fun. 😁
Unsurprisingly, it looks like they did a very good job at giving the players what they asked for.
It also has an epilogue chapter that isn't in the original game that is pretty cool
I'm a fan of Dad Nier, personally. Plus Jamieson Price's booming voice was iconic. I get that Japan holds brother-sister relationships in high regard, but, father-daughter relationships hit harder for me. Before the remaster was announced, I was hoping they'd do one, and had fingers crossed they'd allow us to choose between Young and Old Nier, but, alas. Still neat to get to play as Young Nier in the west for once, and the improvements the remaster brought are absolutely welcome. I guess I gotta stick to the DLC to play Dadboi.
I was personally fatigued by the father/daughter dynamic, feels far too clichéd to me. Brother/sister felt like a breath of fresh air
It's still possible to change the date in NieR Replicant Ver.1.22 for the garden (at least on Xbox One in my case). It just requires you to have the system set to offline mode and restart the console
lol I did the same to farm levels in FF Type-0 HD
@9:55 yeah, I'm pretty sure they just ported over the updated versions they had made for Automata and just brought them back into Replicant because I don't really hear any differences in the tracks by comparison. Makes sense, since doing so saves both time and development funds, and I don't really see a point in updating the tracks yet again.
There's no differences in the Automata tracks, they've just been pulled from Automata's soundtrack. Most of the Replicant OST has been re-recorded.
Tbh, i love Gestalt, in all of its janky glory. Grumpy Nier just plays so well off of Kaine and Weiss. And the idea of ||A father trying to save his daughter|| is just so much more compelling to me than a Brother, though that is just my feelings on it.
But i disagree that the narrative is "vastly" catered toward Brother Nier. The narrative of Nier makes much more sense and has a much higher emotional impact with Gestalt than Replicant.
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Just look at Emil's transformation scene, Kaine's reawakening, or Kaine's confrontation at the end. It all just flows so much better with Father Nier.
Plus Nier and Weiss bickering like an old married couple is *chef kiss*
Good thing you made all those warnings. I legit scrolled to final warning but skipped it for now.
don't care plus i think you're wrong. Young NieR goes brrrrrrrrrrr
I too think that father Nier is overall a better character and makes the game experience better as well. but as some things work so much smoother with Papa Nier, some don't. not that much, at least. think of Devola and Popola: they're parental figures for both Yonah and Brother, while for Papa they're mostly like... friends? also they're twins, and the games revolves a lot on the "siblings relationship" theme. think of the blacksmith and his younger brother who both live near the junkyard. moreover, the latter one "grows out" alone after his older brother's death; exactly like young Nier. and, you know, they both become kinda obsessed over something due to the loss. in any case, I do think Papa Nier is still better. it wasn't in the original Yoko Taro's script, but he definitely fits better in the overall narrative, even despite the inconsistencies aforementioned. I would love an update for the remake that makes you choose which one to impersonate, but sadly that just won't happen
Though Brother NieR would make more sense with his appearance, Emil having a crush on him and that "We're friends now" moment, it's really strange to hear an old man talk about being friends but yeah, Father NieR is just as compelling.
@@InktheImpassive People always bring the "We're friends now" moment, but with Papa Nier I've never interpreted that in the same manner as the scene with Brother Nier. Like, that scene comes across as naive with Brother Nier, like he was genuinely talking about being friends, like anime protagonists and all the baggage that entails.
Papa Nier has the simple virtue of being older. That changes the context of the scene, even if it is identical. We are seeing not a naive boy, but a husband that lost his wife, has a dying daughter that he barely sees due to trying to find a cure for her, and is seeing someone basically give up life in front of his eyes. I don't interpret that as a genuine friendship speech, but more like a desperate attempt at stopping someone he barely know to stop giving up living.
This channel is criminally under viewed. Hopefully to 100,000 subs soon
Aw man, was waiting if you'd show how Devola and Popola got really cute in the remake.
I have the 3 versión, Gestal, Replicant and Replicant 1.2, all the saga of Drakengard and Nier Automata yorha edition, and every single one have something special
Just completed Replicant a moment ago, the changes are very nice, especially combat, and the additions are surely neat.
But I really have to say that I definitely prefer the ps3 version of the OST. The re-arranged one didn't hit me as much.
Both versions have the best OST in any video game.
@@Akechifanthat would actually be Automata, but gestalt and replicant ver 1.22 can fight tooth and nail for 2nd place.
They both have songs that are better done than the other. It sucks to have to pick for essentially the same game.
I’ve always heard of this game but never played it. The music sounds amazing!
No
I play the game
Yeah
Music is great!
@@timurkral3781 play automata
I bought Nier Replicant ver 1.22 on launch, but I've yet to even put in the disk. I have too much attachment to Papa Nier and I've just been replaying Nier Gestalt the entire time. While the ver 1.22's quality of life features sound nice, as the video stated at the end, it had fans already for a reason. The game works as is even if some of the buttons are weird. I was just happy to support the Nier series some more.
Papa Nier is a national treasure
I plan on buying Replicant Ver 1.22474487139 in order to help encourage getting a Gestalt Ver 1.22474487139...
Timeskip Austin in the OG NieR Replicant looks like Pre-MGS4 Raiden, lmao
After hearing how the game runs on PlayStation, I noticed how a Switch port is totally possible, even with toned down visuals and 30 FPS.
Considering the Automata switch port, they can totally do a port of Replicant v.1.2
I have fallen in love with this series!
11:02 that's one hell of a remaster
Great video. Couldn't find this information in concised format or in one place elsewhere.
I’m hoping to be able to get Nier Replicant for the Xbox One next month. I loved Automata and am excited to play Replicant.
Even though I do love the remake and never played the original. I do wish that the original release was sold along side. I like comparing versions.
And this one would be more interesting considering brother and father nier
Ive played original in 2011. Believe me, You dont wanna go back to that version. Godlike OST, voiceacting and story are there, but the rest... yea. I fully agree with mediocre scores for that game.
@@m4rcin847 but isn't it sad that comparing the 2 isn't an easy thing to do for yourself? And the remake is mainly good for the characters and story. Sure, the gameplay is improved for the most part. But it gets boring over time. I've played a bit of the original. The combat is fine but a bit boring. But the enemies are exactly the same in both
@@teneesh3376 Combat is way better in the New one, more fluid, responsible. And The animations, my god, that really sucks in the first one. Its boring over time? You can tell that about every single game.
@@m4rcin847 yeah but Nier especially since getting ending D requires you to replay the second half nearly 4 times. 3 if you do a little save cheating.
But mainly, the combat doesn't really improve over time. Sure, you get a bit more magic spells. But they are so unbalanced that you would mainly stick to 2 or 3 throughout the entire game. Lance on normal, shield and execution on hard.
I'm not dumb, I know the combat is better in the remake. But Nier has always been more than just the combat. But some things I would say is done better in the original. Cutscene animation is better (mainly in the eyes), and the colour and atmosphere can be better in the original.
Though honestly, both Nier's are hard to recommend considering the big pacing issue
God, I'm so torn. Nier is one of those games (many, many games) that has sat in my backlog for ages, along with Automata and all three Drakengards, for that matter. When the remaster was announced, I figured "well, I'll play the original first, and then play 1.22 down the line after that," what with wanting to experience how the game evolved, play as both protagonists, etc. But then I find out that dad Nier was corporate-mandated, and combined with the QoL upgrades and additional content/better graphics... I'm thinking maybe my first encounter with Nier should be the newer release. :S It's a conundrum.
I love NieR Gestalt, IMO even if it was a corporate decision they make a great work, papa NieR the personality was great, but saying that if you haven't play any you should totally go with this new version, it's kinda the same but they really polish and make it better than ever
Start doing gymanstic
Put it this way. The gameplay in og Nier is super dated. So if you play Replicant and try to go back to og Nier, it might feel even worse. If you intend on playing og Nier for that sweet Papa Nier experience, then play it first imo.
@@leovanilla6833 shut up
No dude, play the replicant remaster.
Its not worth it to play through the jank of the original.
Also papa nier doesnt even make much sense as the story was masterfully written for brother nier.
Like the whole of chapter 1 you do mondane, boring jobs for cheap because the people feel bad for the kid that has a sick younger sister living alone, so they find safe odd jobs to help them out.
But in chapter 2 he grows up and is known for killing shades so you get more killing related quests that pay like 30 times more.
That shit doesnt make sense with papa nier so you just do shit fetch quests for no reason whatsoever and people start treating you different just because you have an eyepatch?
Also many dialogues are weird, like the drunk woman trying to hit on you but you are a teenager and then hitting on you when you grow up or emil having a crush on the monstrosity that is papa nier's face and calling him "very cool" lmaoo.
Its not worth it playing the original. Also replicant has many QoL stuff alongside the waaaay improved gameplay and combat (you move a lot faster for example), it also has DLC and a new ending.
And you DO NOT want to get all the endings to og nier and then nier replicant remaster... that would be...kinda torture. Doing all the mondane stuff in the game is BORING AS FUCK.
Nier replicant vers. 1.245754 gameplay and pacing is not as good as automata's.
1.2 also contains E ending, which I consider the best
Play all the games, become god. 👍
Kinda wished that the pc version had cutscenes capped at 30 but still have gameplay at 60 and higher.
The cutscenes were made with 30 fps in mind and didn't have proper lip sync for English dialogue. And in 60fps, you can really see it. But gameplay should be 60fps and higher
Amazing how much work and effort you put into this 👏👏👏
still really miss dad nier
i prefer young nier but dad nier has such a legendary voice actor who’s in a fuck ton of anime
Though 1.2 is a graphical improvement, I wouldn't say it's better. Sure, textures are higher quality and there can be more detail in environments. Sometimes the lighting and colours do look better in the original. It's a case by case basis.
But also when it comes to the faces, some animation data was lost or didn't translate as well. It's the eyes in some scenes. Not emoting as well as it did before
The answer is obviously the remake and it shouldn't even be up for debate.
I'd agree with you if Dad Nier wasn't infiitely more appealing to me lol
@@MaximumAddition I personally feel like the story just flits better with brother Nier more than father Nier. You should still play replicant.
I'm 50/50 that is... until we get a Gestalt ver 1.22422474487139 DLC
cause right now the most we have a mod that replaces Brother Nier with Papa Nier, and I don't know how long it'll be until someone makes a mod that is basically Gestalt ver 1.22422474487139, cause we've got pretty much everything we need for it, including voice lines (although it originates from the PS3/Xbox 360 Nier Gestalt)
@@slobertooth1358 Brother Nier just... Doesn't click with me and almost actively deters me from wanting to play the game. The 1 thing I think he has over dad is the timeskip, his design and all just... Doesn't click with me. Plus, I'm just personally burnt out on sibling stories between playing Astral Chain and Last Remnant recently
The Remaster is better because it has more graphic! The additional gameplay is bullshit because it doesnt make sense that I have to play the game a fifth time for no reason.
never played the original western or asian release but i can tell the graphics gameplay and music are all on par with Automata! id even say voice acting is miles better thanks to Grimoire Weiss! i havent looked up who it is yet but know hes done a hella lotta anime and his lines in game are quality. prob my fave character from Nier and Drakengaard
It's Liam O'Brien, just in case you still haven't looked it up three months later :p
you watch naruto but you don't immediately recognize Weiss' voice is the same as Gaara's? thats a shame, i'm shaking my head right now...
@@whiterabbit8243 I'm sorry I'm not as weeb as you sir
@@StalwartShinobi i barely watch anime. I cant be more weeb than you
@@whiterabbit8243 your deffo more weeb when you know, then assume I should know as much about Naruto voice actors just because my profile picture is from naruto..
Wow Nier Replicant looked WAY better than Nier Gestalt visually.
?? Duh ??
Unless you're talking about back in the day in which case lol..no.
@@神惠 oh yeah. Replicant looks less muddy and character models look sharoer and more detailed, the main protagonist being very very obvious
@@kato093 I'm talking about the original games, which had the same graphical fidelity. Not the remaster. I mean if anything, Gestalt looked better when it ran on the 360. He said "looked" so I couldn't tell if he was saying Replicant on PS3 looked better than Gestalt on PS3, or if he was saying that the new Replicant looks better, which goes without saying lol.
@@神惠 no he is saying the ps3 replicant looks better than the xbox360 gestalt, and it does. Replicant does look better
What is special K? Could you please provide a link? Also, which game should I play first? Nier automata or near replicant 1.22
Special K is a free software to tweak and fix broken pc ports basically but it can do way more, you can find it easily. You should probably start with Replicant 1.22, Nier Automata is the sequel.
For your comment about mistranslations. It's just straight up not the case, all the English dialogue was retranslated back into Japanese for the Gestalt subtitles.
Color limiter is turned on in the ps3 version, disable it to get the better picture and you'll see that the ps3 colors look the same if not better than the xbox version. Ps3 always had a stronger black color compared to xbox when the limiter is off
I thought that book sounded familiar. It's freaking Illidan Stormrage!
Kaine should sound familiar as well then being Jaina
Nier Gestalt was just a Warcraft spin-off, change my mind
One of The Best JRPG Games i Have Played
Excellent video.
Gotta say, I've been playing both versions for the first time recently, and the only changes I think I truly dislike are that some soundtracks lose their original feel or get swamped entirely in effects until they're no longer fun to listen to (e.g. Temple of Drifting Sands) - though that's bound to happen with these sorts of things - and that some of the reworked maps lose their original sense of scale.
Genuine question, if SE ends up releasing a Gestalt Mode DLC/Update, think you'd update the video?
If it's paid dlc then probably not, it'd just be its own video probably
Please God let this happen, I hate baby Twink brother Nier 🙏
Thank you explaining the game to me. When I first saw the trailer I was sure it was a different game or some odd clone with no dad to be found.
Og nier is still my favorite game because soundtrack compared to replicant, father, and without it there wouldn't be any of the other games
It would've been nice if they brought the father back, so u can pick between playing as the father or the brother.
I don't think it would've taken a lot of additional work tbh
If only Caim was rebuilt in this game as an insanely god tier power level boss in some hidden area with Angelus would of been a nice easter egg.
I got this coming in the mail Wednesday.
Nier Gestalt! Is my favorite game,and a game i taked to my Life!
The version with Gary Busey having tripped into a barbarian cosplay display will always be the best version.
WAIT did I hear Matt Berry at 2:38?
I don't get why people say the narrative doesn't fit papa Nier. IRL I would expect a father to do all he could to help his sick child and then do everything in his power to get her back after she is kidnapped. To not stop looking for her until his dying breath.
With a brother, I would not blame him for resenting looking after a sick sibling. I would understand if he decided to move on with his life after searching for his sister with no luck. For all he knows she could have already died from her illness. It's harder for me to believe that a brother would still be very actively focused on looking for his sister after five years with no leads.
And with regards to Kaine and Emil, I think an older more experienced man of the world fits a little better as an understanding father figure to them, although I admit brother Nier is better as a romance option.
I don't necessarily care myself, but I can see why people would say Father Nier doesn't fit. The story was written for a younger protagonist. Father Nier says and does many naive and immature stuff that an adult would never say or do. So, his character comes off as awkward when a 30-50 year old man throws tantrums like a child. Also, Kaine and Emil both have a crush on Nier, so it's even more awkward when a man old enough to be Kaine's father has a puppy love romance with her.
And, I don't get why people play down siblings caring for one another. Yonah is his only family left, why would he just ditch her? Real life people don't just do that. As an older sibling myself, I certainly wouldn't just leave my siblings to die... That sounds sociopathic to me. Family is family.
This is from a Japanese person who shared some insight from their point of view that I agree with:
"Congratulations, the remaster is now available.
I read the comments with interest.
It seemed to me that the plots preferred by the Japanese are different from the plots preferred by many people here.
We certainly prefer young protagonists. However...
In a story about a father trying to save his daughter, it's a bit unappealing. Even more so when the character is a tough guy. We think of it as his "duty" to do so.
But that's not the case with a brother and sister. We would perceive the act more as "self-sacrifice" and "devotion" than as a duty. This is even more true if the sibling is a minor who may still need a guardian.
This "self-sacrifice" and "dedication" is also symbolic about Kaine and Emile. Perhaps we surely like tragic stories (but it depends on the individual)."
@@jase276 Laye but... Man I disagree with that Japanese fella. The whole thing with the brother and sister is less appealing to me. While sure there's the self-sacrifice with the brother, how does the father NOT have that? It may seem as "duty" but that doesn't devalue the love of a father committed to go to the literal ends of the world for his only child, wishing her a better future. It's more than likely cultural differences but in the end brother just feels... Too over the top for me? Different strokes for different folks either way.
@@MaximumAddition you disagree while proving the point he made. Lol “I disagree that we have different preferences, I have a different preference!”
@@MaximumAddition you didnt understand what he was saying, because you're actually validating what he is saying. Hes explaining that for a father to protect his child is a duty, while for a brother to sacrifice his whole life is more tragedic and sad. The emotional impact is bigger, specially considering how young he started doing it. It also make the whole story more believable. Its super cliche to have a super strong muscly dad protecting his young daughter, weve been fed this for decades in the west. Now to get a litteral child protecting another child, it makes the situation way more tragic and actually apocalyptic (since theres no one else to protect and save everyone, its so bad that theres only another child to step up and do the right thing and he HAS to do it, showing how bad the situation is for an immature kid having no choice but try to save whats left of humanity vs the "im a man a strong muscly man and i will save everyone" cliche of every american movie ever). You are also sadly validating what sqaure usa was saying, that westerner cant understand this and need something more traditional and dumbed down for them to get into it.
@@jase276 "yes, thats right. we're friends now!" *while simultaneously awkwardly looking around and shifting like a lost child* that scene was so cringey, like why would a father give a shit if he's friends or not with some hussy? he gives off a vibe that it's him and his daughter against the world.
Huh.... I had no clue Gestalt was a thing
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the reason they change the protagonist into an adult because JRPGs were seeing as kiddie games due to the success of Western RPGs, seeing how you always play as adults? Therefore, they were becoming less popular in North America and we had to beg the developers to bring them over. Nowdays that's not the case, but I remember back then how JRPGs popularity was decaying in NA at least and how that was stressful for us who wanted to play those games.
Why did they cap the resolution on the consoles? I have it for the Series X and my PC, but I can't stand the lower resolution and choppy cutscenes. For sure wasn't getting it for the PS5. I know it's been out awhile still hope it gets patched though. My 3060ti does the job though!
Who is the developer toylogic ?
Gestalt mod on Replicant remake (upgraded version) :D
I really wished they hadn't messed with the OST at all. The original was perfect.
I honestly like it a bit better
I wish there was an option to use the old OST
What's the music at 11:20
I personally like the only protagonist, yeah you can tell the story was written for the younger but as a father I can relate to the idea of doing literally anything to save my daughter. Plus his VA is much better than the younger imo.
the only thing I would say Is when I was playing nier replicant ver... it felt like kaine was kinda toned down on her swearing unlike gestalt(or it could just be me) and another thing is when I was playing replicant nier and grimoire weiss weren't as talkative as much as nier gestalt. just small things and not really anything that actually changes the game but still something noticeable( I think).
She curses more in the new one
I definitely didn’t notice that
nier and grimoire not talking as much is a big deal. it weakens the bond between nier and weiss which ultimately makes new fans question weiss's decision towards the end of the game.
Give us the Oldman as DLC.
Automata gets all the love but Replicant has a special place for me.
I just wish it had the original soundtrack, it was so much better
I knew dark hands changed! I remember using it all the time before and now doesn’t feel that effective.
Replicant looks really nice and the soundtrack sounds great, too. Only thing I prefer in the 'original' (currently going for platinum/replaying
Nier Gestalt on my PS3) is the way Kainé looks. Even if in replicant her look is more faithful to concept hard it'll take some
getting used to for me. As long as Laura Bailey voices her, though, she can be nothing but awesome xD
Well it made sense they changed her look to fit more Retconned with automata 2B and especially A2 considering there based on her existence especially more so A2 who still carries her memory’s no wonder A2 was the real main anti heroine of Automata by its end lol
Nier Gestalt not xbox 360 exclusive , also on ps3 , ps3 got the two version
So technically you're right.
In the original Japanese release NieR Gestalt was exclusive to Xbox 360, but when brought outside of Japan Gestalt was the one ported over to PS3 for the worldwide release.
thanks, man. My buddy got me the new pc version and it really does feel like automata \o/
I just want play as Papa Nier in the story for this new update of Nier.
Modders made it already.
And I hope Replicant reach the 2.5 million.
@@StrangyENPP I know there a modd to play as Papa Nier but I want to play as him for the story, here hoping this game sell reach 2.5 millions
Yeah same here, I prefer having a main char that doesn't look like he came from a final fantasy franchise.
I prefer having a main character that doesn't look like a hobo that takes steroids and snorted crack while consuming extreme amounts of alcohol all at once.
None of them make that impression. ._.
whats the song playing in the background at like 5:00?
I think it's Hills of Radiant Winds but it's hard to hear.
Some of the differences I’m seeing between Gestalt and old Replicant…. Some of it has lore-changing implications. Wonder if that’s coincidence or not?
I'm for the dad. Lots of games and anime with kids or teens as heroes. Good to have a shake up.
good video thank you 😎👍
thx for the review since i just bought replicant for $20 on amazon now i know is the same game from ps3.
does the japanese voiceover have the sound censoreship?
Have they fixed the PC port issues?
hills of radiant winds sounds just like “legend of the martial artist” from hunter x hunter, surprised they arent made by the same composer tbh
You make it sound like there are no real fans of the Gestalt version. But when I remember playing it back in the day, I felt like the father and daughter had a greater relationship than the brother and sister. Then again, I had no idea they made a different game from the PS3 and Xbox 360 until recently. Been playing the 1.2 version and it has been hard getting over the fact I am not playing as the father.
Man, the remixed music simply does not do the original soundtrack any justice. Terrible shame it wasn't included to switch between the two. Wonder if they also fixed the mistranslation of Kaine's flashback text sequences too. Least they included dual audio, so that's a plus.
I bet someone's already modded the original soundtrack into the PC version.
@@gaminggoddess85 they haven't yet sadly.
I remember playing this for the first time it was on pc
and I played as the father I newer know there was a brother
I'll give the remake a try if there's a mod to bring back the original face models and music. Don't really like the new faces leaning too hard on the Automata look. And the remade soundtrack is meh compared to the original. I've already played through Replicant on my modded PS3.
One day Square Enix will remaster a game and I'll prefer the remaster and die of shock. That is yet to happen.
Personally, I preferred the premise of the story more playing as a father than a brother. It's true that the narrative supports the younger protagonist, but playing as a father broke free of what I think has become a bit too cliche for a lot of Japanese games with teenage protagonists, as if older heroes are just too unrelatable, or uninteresting. That said, I think Western games eventually started using father figures a bit too often in games after this, to the point where I think it's cliche now, too. I guess I just like the idea of a Japanese story with a central father figure, as it feels like good shift in perspective from the norm. If the narrative was tweaked a bit to suit a father more than an older brother, I do think that would be the better way to portray the story. Because of that, I do hope they make the father DLC with the VA returning.
Yeah, who wants to play as a little femboy?
Meh the dad can stay to the side the brother is cooler
The brothers English va is terrible
@@silentlore2458 What are you talking about Ray chase is like one of the best VA's that's why he's in hella games
@@kei7540 literally every game dub is trash nowadays. If Ray chase Is the "best" then I'm a god
6:00 It blows that they destroyed the vibe of the beach so badly.
The original soundtrack is also better. Why mess with it...?! Baffling decisions.
Yeah. I ate a cookie and I thought right in that moment: Why is there even chocolate in it? I ate the chocolate and I thought about that I like chocolate a lot! So it was a yummy cookie!
It was a chocolate cookie if you didnt get it.
Can u get the ps3 nier replicant in the us or is it only in Japan because i want to give the old nier replicant a try and i dont really want to play gestalt because i don't really like the main character
Late but it was only released in Japan on PS3 so it’s the only way to play the original version of Replicant.
If you mod your PS3 you can play a translation of the Replicant version, it's not very accurate tho. They used a lot of text from gestalt and that has a lot of changes.
@@GenesHand yea I did end up getting NieR Replicant for my ps3 and I should get it modded that would be nice
"A necessary upgrade to the original game"
Nah fam, thats a remaster. Updated models, cleaned up combat, and better lighting/ textures, but the original gameplay is preserved.
Replicant 1.22 is 100% a remaster
7:05 i dont know i find the old character models actually superior, the new ones look like dolls
I firmly believe "dadnier" fit the narrative better for western culture.
I stand by that, Especially now that I'm older.
Is it as good as automata?
They should've stayed with the Gestalt MC imo. Its just a breath of fresh air to have a grumpy old dude as a protagonist on a fantasy JRPG. I havent played a lot of JRPGs tho, there are probably more JRPGs who has a grumpy old dude as a protagonist.
Personally I I find the new version better in just about every way. Specially the gameplay. I was never really a big fan of old man nier. And mad af when I learned the Japanese version was the intended version, and featured a different character, that i found out gets cooler after a time. I suppose they made the right call considering it seems most people prefer the old man. I've always preferred the original vision of someone's work over somthing that's been...revised.
Kaine looks so beautiful in the new version. She was fine in the old one. But I think this new one really brings out the artists Visage of her. Same for nier. Epically when he ages. His design is badass. I'm glad they changed his durpy hair also lol. Music. I'm good either or. Both are just some of the most beautiful music I've ever heard.
Not a remaster or remake? Looks a lot like one.
I wonder what's the difference between this and a remake
I'll miss papa Nier