HANDMADE CUSTOM Bikepacking Adventure Touring Bike Build - PART 6 - Frame becomes a rideable bicycle
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
- The journey continues as we turn the DIY custom handmade bicycle frame into a fully functioning, rideable bicycle! In this video I take a wonderfully curated collection of amazing bike parts from Paul Components, Redshift, Shimano CUES, Rene Herse, White Industries, Race Face and more! and assemble my new adventure touring bike. At the end we give it its first test ride and report back on the initial thoughts!
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Love to hear a bike mechanic say he doesn't understand the B-screw :D amazing . feeling better as a home mechanic
I absolutely love this vid. I don’t know anything about fixing bikes, but this is so relatable, relaxing, and refreshing! The triple Rs! I do cycle, so watching this is informative, thanks!
This has been a great series… you did an awesome job showing the ups and downs of building a DIY frame. One minute you feel like you know what you’re doing, the next you feel like you probably screwed up the whole project. But you never give up, and that’s the most important thing. Break it down into baby steps and plug away.
With each frame you get more confident.
Props to you for showing the successes and the struggles.
That cockpit is bananas. I'm stealing it.
I'm calling the police
Nothing like the first ride on your own hand made frame. Great work! 🎉
Your series is great! Made me wish I stuck with engineering school instead of smoking pot and drinking my way to an English degree while working at a bike shop! 🤣😂
The backwards cable stop reminds me of my dad's saying, "Every man has a plan that will not work". Liking the drive setup. but, where's ginormous giant dork disk?
This is sooo good. I know you're a professional but this build is so relatable, weird and real. I'm in the process of cobbling an old aluminum city bike fork onto my cx-cum-touring bike, your problem solving and tenacity are really inspiring
Damn right about adventure bikes never being finished!
Me: She's done!
Me 5 months later (now): I'm not feeling these drop bars at all anymore, flat bars!
Next up is heavy duty enduro disc brakes to replace the mechanicals
Glad you mentioned not understanding B-screw adjustments. I've messed with them but just leave them at 50/50.
So many times I've considered buying one of those Redshift seatposts.
You can totally put 11 and 12 speed on an 8-9-10 freehub, not even requiring CUES. Anything over a certain number of teeth, 36 I think, is designed to fit on and just have a spacer on 11 speed hub. Common in the mountain bike world. This is how I have a sram eagle cassette on my crappy wheels that came with my specialized diverge. The way they get it to work is setting the first couple gears back from the splines a bit towards the spokes, hence why they can only do it on big enough gears.
I just upgraded to Paul Klampers and they are by far the best mechanical disc brake systems available. I would be willing to bet that these brakes may be the ones to change your mind about disc brakes. 🤷♂️😁✌️Thanks for the videos!
I would not take that bet! (That means I agree with you, right?)
Even cable disk brakes are great if both pads move together. Main drawback is that rear wheel through axle. For that, you hang the nose of the saddle from a rope or low tree branch, even a mailbox. @@bkefrmr
That must be such a great feeling doing a literal frame-up build, its a better definition than what i used to consider a frame-up build which was to strip a used bicycle to the frame & put it back together using new & better parts. Cool series showings the ups AND downs.
Those Paul brakes are great. It took me a while to adjust mine properly. Several degrees of freedom.
Very tricky setup, but once dialed, they’re great!
Nice work up! Might look into the CUE components now, since you appear pleased. Converted a '98 TREK Mountain Track 850 3x7 to 1x7, but a few extra gears in the rear could be useful.
Almost went with that style handlebar, might use them on a single speed!
Enjoy the shakedown ride!
Bike looks super cool, I don’t know what to think of those bars. The kitchen sink bars might be the way to go
A lot of drop. Go with the higher angle stem :). Love the long wheel base!!
Chesters and Paul brakes, what is not to love
Cliche for a good reason!
It was really cool to see this bike come alive in this episode. I like how you are not afraid to experiment with outside of the box ideas.
Sunrace cassettes like the CSMZ901 can make you ride a 1x12 drivetrain on an (old) HG hub. I had it on my MTB, works great!
Really did not picture the bike looking like this, it is interesting to see the surly bars. Personally I'd maybe pick some sweeped bars over this. I'm all ears to hear how your weekend goes, enjoy!
Love the gear rang and the cockpit
Diggin the Surly bars! Cool 😎. Reminds me of the Kona Sutra or the Surly Trucker.
Those problems solving videos are Interesting. The horizontal dropouts have one big advantage on a travel bike. If the rear derailleur brakes, you can choose a fixed gear and correctly tight the chain to reach the next point until you can reach a place you can fix it.
That is one great looking DORK disc so clean you can see right thru it
Really enjoyable series. Much appreciated-
Got a big trip coming up and I have a Redshift stem. Love it. Did the base elastomers which worked great until I added my sleep system bag to the bars (hangs off of a BarYak system). I had to go up a setting with the added weight but again, love the stem.
My first test ride is to jump off the curb and hope nothing falls off or breaks. It's so cool to see the process, thanks!
Hey BF, love the series. Will you add a list of the retail parts you've used in the description?
I never really got my Corner Bars to work quite the way I wanted ‘em to. I’ll give them another try at some point.
Don’t sweat the backwards cable stop. Easily fixed. The only real bonehead move you ever have to worry about is putting the BB shell in the wrong way. But that’s a fillet brazed problem. I’ve somehow avoided that one so far.
Both of my bikes are custom builds (my road bike is even a custom frame, though not built by me) where I picked all the parts myself and built them up from bare frames, and I agree entirely with your sentiment that custom bikes are never finished. I'm often replacing this part or that as my feelings change from season to season and year to year. Your bike looks great.
I too chose surly corner bars for my 2 all terrain bikes so I can use mtb components and still have drops - I love them - 1 bike has the 46cm the other has 50cm wide - I prefer the narrowest.i put the brake and shifter controls on the stubs, not one each side of the crossbar; brake towards the rear, shifter to the front, put cut down mtb flat bar grips on the exposed stubs to act as hoods. I can shift/brake from the flat part of the bars as well as from the drops.
I think you need to swap the brake with the shifter. You gotta go with the standard flat bar setup.
Nope and nope
Real nice build. I thought the hand position looked too low but different riding positions tend to vary with riders. Lately I've been experimenting with short stems and BMX bars.
I put the Velo Orange Crazy Bars on my tandem. I love them. The hood positions are really nice, but there's still the regular flat bar grips and a space toward the center that I wrapped with bar tape for a 3rd position.
With a noodle hitting a rack, I've had success in the past in changing the curve in the noodle. But as you said (about the decaleur), bending tubes is tricky. I'd be hesitant to try it on the fancy Paul noodle but go wild with a cheap regular one.
Ritchey Corralitos bars, my man! I think they may suit your needs...
Sick build, very impressive.
Good observation on the geometry of the bar and the stem, and the resultant zero suspension effect on the lower position.
I definitely have an angled rises stem on my corner bars and shifters and levers down on the main part like you ended up doing. That’s the feel for me. I use the extension part for climbing and it actually helps. Hope the shake down was enjoyable that’s one sweet steed !
Here I am, at 71, finding out that watching you build bikes is so relaxing. Makes me wish I’d had the opportunity to learn about bikes when I was young.
I liked the look of those handlebars. One type of bar that used to be gaining popularity but faded away is the butterfly bar. Maybe those would work.
If ever a bike deserved to be labeled 'Custom Built', this is it - very cool! Not so sure about the cockpit, I think there is too much going on.
Gearing looks fantastic, maybe I'm gonna try this, too! I'm still running an Ultegra 3x9 on my gravel rig, which gives me a range of 515%, not too bad.
Come ride Thorn Creek Lookout with me, 5100' of elevation in 14 miles, all Forest service roads. Discs necessary.
In a very weird emphatic way i enjoy watching you struggle so much, Haha! Reminds me of myself. All the love, learned a lot from your vids and keep up the good work.
that ended up looking awesome, love the raw frame, and kinda digging the weird cockpit setup !
I’m going to need a set of those golf putters for my own corner bars!
Probably the new,, kinetic,, sadle will be the best for this bike.
I really like my Ergonomic GP5 grips on my Specialized Sirrus X 5.0. I’m also intrigued by the SQ Labs inner bar ends a see a lot of riders using. You might look at those if you switch to a flat bar
I love the whole build series, thanks for sharing. A few comments come to mind. I think you have the cable routed the wrong way around the cable clamp on the rear derailleur. Shimano 11 and 12 speed systems are very sensitive to chain length. If the chain is too long, shift quality suffers. Finally, try Tap Magic cutting fluid. It's incredible how much better it is for drilling, tapping, etc than regular oil.
If you look around Europe for a long trials stem that handlebar might work.
It took 1000 miles to decide I really hated the outward flare on my Topstone drops. I bent them straight in my ginormous vice. 500 miles later I decided I couldn't deal with the ridiculous 48 mm wide drops. On went the 42 mm straight shallow drops. Manna from heaven. 4 decades of road cycling will do that to you. Always hold the elbows in for aero gains. Gimmicks for profit only.
Andy, it’s been great following along with this series of videos. As a lifelong wrench and doing some framebuilding of my own I greatly enjoy your channel. Thanks for the great content! :)
Great build series! There are a lot of parts here that I've been interested in and it's cool to see someone else trying them out.
I tried a knock off aluminum Corner bar and absolutely did not like it. The hand positions felt unnatural to me and like you, I found it too far forward and low. I thought about trying a goofy stem with it like the VO Happy but a bar that has its main position set lower than the stem mount is just silly imho.
I have also set up two friends bikes with Cues and it felt solid but not the most refined. I found that the chain length had to be just right to get reliable shifting along with proper B screw adjustment. Russ from Path Less Pedaled showed that a Cues RD can be shifted with a Sword brifter which might work for you if you wanted to stick with that RD and go to drops.
I'm building up my first makeshift bikepacking rig right now which is a 1990 Trek 990 with a lugged frame, Humtulips Ridge tires, Box1 oversized V brakes with travel agents as noodles, Sword 1x10, and VO Crazy bars. Very similar to what you're doing with this bike I think so I appreciate your choices.
Love your bike, really great effort hope it pays you back in many hours of riding pleasure. Not sold on the bars, think some drop bars will be be much better along with the Cues brifters when they come out. Top job and great video series.
IIRC any Shimano 11 speed mountain cassette will fit 10 speed free hub bodies.
Yes, 11 speed MTB are the same width as 10 speed. 11 speed road introduced the slightly longer freehub.
@@briand8862 1,85mm
Thanks!
Thank you for this cool content❤
My friend one year one bicycle. The name for the next bicycle. Taliesin. The horizontal line.
This is straight up bike pr0n and I love it.
There is a Mark on the derailer,for the B/p scr.;)
I think it’s more of a dropout issue. I also never checked the hanger. I rode it all weekend and it did just fine. It was just a little squirrelly on the stand. I’ll futz with it a bit more as I add fenders, build wheels, replace dropouts, etc
It turned out quite well. Now it's a beta version, let's see how it behaves during the user acceptance tests, then we'll see the fixes and the 1.0 release. I'm curious to see if and how you'll modify the frame, or if you'll go for a new frame, based on the experience from this one. We shall see. Meanwhile, kudos!
Always Good Stuff 👍
I lifted these bars right up and might try the can creek ends. If its 135mm O L D rear big is touchy no clue why should work with 10 speed
nice build
Nice work!
The kitchen sink bars are the best of all time
That is definitely one sick bike 🤘🏻
Excellent series, very interesting to see your process(es) and the unvarnished struggles so often over-looked. I love the unfinished frame... great looking and very pracitcal. I also thought it rather brave to venture into the "Cues" realm... before the introduction of brifters. Keep up the great work (this will be a tough one to follow!) Cheers from Wales. 👍👍👍
It’s awesome
Hey BikeFarmer, I really like your videos and I'm impressed by your practical approach and also showing things that don't go perfect first try. I like the bike and the choice of components. Anyways I think you're loosing mechanical advantage when adjusting the brakes with parallel "arms" in the "open position". I recognized this when I changed to the bigger spacers on my brake pads. The smushy feel actually means good braking power. A hard feel in the lever means less power.
Keep up the good work!
in the sort of alt bar space, I've used upside down velo orange granola bars, and upside down albatross bars; you get a sort of forward hook and a lot less drop than you've got there I think.
I sort of think for me, it may be that or narrow drop bars. Haven't had the best luck with wide drops.
that's corner bar for ya. cable party 🤣
If three zipties don't hold that R Der housing, a brazed cable guide never woulda. xD
This has been an excellent series of videos, very enjoyable, well done. looking forward to seeing the final project. By the way, I tried those handlebars. Also not a good look didn’t really work the way I thoight
Why not bring the rack up a bit? Also, wouldn’t the bag prevent your front brake noodle from rubbing ?
Loving this series. Have you tried the Surly Moloko bars?
I have been wanting corner bars since I bought my Moloko bars last year. Decided I was going to use them on my next build but I'm torn between those and the Ritchey Buzzard bars now.... Let us know your long term opinion on them. Love the bike.
Flip the bars over and you’ll get some rise on them
Can you take the front wheel off without having to remove the front bike bag rack?
nice build, but i really don't understand the frontrack setup. why not just have the bag hanging on the frontbars? in germany we have bag/basketholders called "klickfix" its a great system wich allows you to just click in baskets or bags on to the handlebars. your brakes are like bmx brakes. i had to adjust a bunch of these back in the day the same way with a 13mm and a 5mm inbus. oh man these are the worst to adjust, i'd rather adjust a discbrake any day😂
Because aesthetics.
@@goergeerwoll okay, but why don´t have a rack in the back then? having weight in the front is never good for steering :D
@@MetalTiger88 Because again aesthetics.
Sir I regret to inform you at the 1-minute Mark your forks are in upside down. 😂
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just curious about the springs on the seat post. Red/ Green is the most common form of colorblindness affecting over 5 percent of the population. Was there any indicator besides color on the springs? A lettering, or different number of dots somewhere?
The Adventure Touring bike I just built has the range of 38x11 to 24x46. Crazy wide range just like yours. I really only use a few when riding around town, but I expect when I load it up for touring the easier gears will come in handy more
Red shift stem will work well on the hoods, wont do much on the drops as the stem is a comfort / fatigue reducing componant.
Those kitchen sink bars will be way nicer when you get some levers for the cues.
Had a similar issue so i got rid if the corner bar and used a 22mm dia pit bike bar with some nice back sweep ( removed the bolt on cross brace) i rolled the bars back untill slightly dipped and put some SQ labs inner bar end up where the hoods would be.
Ran a 90 mm bontrager stem with a 22 to 26mm shim for the pit bike bars.
Fixed the height issue and got those 3 hand positions for less than half the price of the surly corner bar and no need to change out my levers and shifters 👍
This has been a brilliant series of vids dude warts and all excellent my friend I’ve really enjoyed following the journey.. well done man it’s turned out super nice.. look forward to seeing what you think of the rides on it.. Pete 🚴🏻👍
35:45 😂
You forgot the spinachi bars. 😂
What torque wrench did you use?
Looks like the Park Tool ATD-1.2.
Curious you went with 26 and not 650b
Considering how low the pads are on the brake arms, maybe he accidentally did make a 650B frame?!
Being an ex road racer I thought I wouldn’t like the bike but when I saw the finished product I loved it. Really enjoyed the mini series thank you 👍
Use a C clamp to dent the chain stay
I’m gonna have to when I get my new wheels built
re coated cables and lined housings... older generations of those, was definitely DO NOT LUBE as oil would cause the coatings to swell up and jam.
Where’s the adventure ride this weekend? Bike Farmer FONDO?
what tires are u using?
You may not want to go here, but the upper head lug is designed to give you the option of cutting it shorter. Take your hack saw and guide and cut it down to length, thenream and face it and Bob’s your uncle.
I should gotten cues instead of tiagra.
No dork disc?
Dork discs are for your bikes, not mine
Really cool series. Thanks for posting.
I'd say we have a winner, killer bike. Love those bars. Everything, all the parts look built for that frame. Off-road tyres looks modern on this old looking bike. That seat looks the part. Fantastic selection on the parts. I really wish I could afford your time and knowledge and commission a frame for me. That would be too good for who's it for. As a consolation prize, I ride with that same cues system on my own bike. They're very good and I don't care that they are on the heavy side as long as they shift every single time and they do.
Hey👋 I’m also building up my touring bike, could you please tell me what’s the brand of the crankset and bottom bracket that you are using?