BUILT FOR ADVENTURE! Cloning a Rivendell All-Rounder for All Terrain Touring - Bicycle Framebuilding
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- This project first began as a concept while I was riding down a horse trail in the Black Hills of South Dakota on my 1996 Rivendell All-Rounder. The ultralight, heat treated tubing of that bike makes it a very good "gravel grinder" or all road bicycle decades ahead of its time, but things get a bit noodly when you load it down with bags for overnight adventures. I like this bike so much, I decided then and there that I would recreate the exact same bike, but build the frame with oversized tubing to add some rigidity for carrying loads.
This is the first video in a series that follows me on my journey as a novice bicycle framebuilder, armed with enough tools, experience and audacity to take a concept and make it a reality. In this video we will take a closer look at my favorite personal bike, strip some of the touring bits from it, design the new frame and set up the jig to get started assembling the frame!
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You forgot to mention your 2017 trip up to Mpls, where you and I met and you thought to yourself, “if that doofus can build his own frame, so can I”.
Me then: You built that yourself? How?
You then: In my garage. Just kinda did it.
Me now on YT: Here’s me guessing
You now on YT: Here’s me with a proven process!
Future me: Framebuilding sucks
Future you: That’ll be $5,000!
😂
This is the type of material the internet was designed for, informational and inspirational. Adds more flavor to my rides. Really nice job Bike Farmer!
Technical drawing is beginning to become a lost art. Reminds me of my college days. Thank you.
Glad you changed your mind about posting the build vids!!!
More to come!
Love the lounge music. 🙃
More interesting to watch someone with less experience work through it than a pro blazing through it with all the tools.
Curiosity, resourcefulness, ability to reason through obstacles, go get help when needed. That's how experts are developed. I think it was Willie Nelson who once said, I worked my ass off for 30 years to become an overnight sensation.
can't wait for the next episode
You have resurrected my desire to build my own bicycle frame.
In 2010 or 2011 I went to the North American Handmade Bike Show in Sacramento, California and during that period of my life was in love with all things bicycle.
After buying a house most of my hobbies went away but I recently bought a Moose Fat bike and have been hitting the trails in my area and getting back in the groove.
Watching your channel and this video is taking me bike to my A days of riding and am loving every second of it.
Thank you.
God bless you.
"...most of my hobbies went away..." For me it started with the refrigerator.
Dude, this is sooo cool :) Can't wait for a follow up!
Seeing all the trial-and-error procedure makes me appreciate even more my bikes and the people who made them.
Thanks! This is some good use of film
Thanks hey!
Best show ever. I always wondered how it was done.
That jig would be awesome to have. Can't wait to see how the build goes!
Very cool idea. I sort of want the opposite - I'd love to replace the stiff 26 inch wheeled Surly LHT I have with a Riv All Rounder
Like seeing how you have your bikes set up. Looks like its going to be a cool project.
That jig is sweet
Thanks!
Thanks hey!
Please please please make an old timey Ope! Headtube badge for this build❤
I loved the racing bikes built with the 753 tubing set from way back but I never had an opportunity to ride a touring bike built using 753 except for possibly a Trek in the mid-90's but I can't remember. I had the pleasure of riding a few of the Raleigh Ilkelson factory built 753 racing frames and have never found a frame that suited me as well since. Thank you for introducing me to the Rivendell All-Rounder and your channel! I'm loving it!
@bikefarmer you’re an inspiration to us all. Bike resurrection is my hobby. It can be a challenge sometimes bringing trash to treasure but your vids are all the inspiration one needs to breath life back into man’s greatest invention, the bike! Keep those vids coming.
Good measurements for someone who comes from a country using imperial units!
Ah yeah. This is some good content🔥
The V-O decaleur will eventually fail at the weld (experience here, on a tour.) Go with one built into the rack, like the V-O Randonneur or Flat Pack rack.
I built a 757 tube bike, with over sized tubes. Pretty rigid.
Brilliant stuff. I'm looking forward to seeing more. Thank you. 👍 👍 👍
I am so here for this!
Awesome, stoked to follow this project!
My gravel bike is a late 80s Giant Iguana MTB with drop bars and geometry that's almost identical to the Riv. It has a 4130 main triangle and hi-ten stays, so it's heavy as shit but basically indestructible. On a chunky, twisty downhill, no regular gravel bike can hang with it.
Happy to see BikeCAD being used in this project. I trust you are aware that you can print full scale drawings directly from BikeCAD. Since you likely don't have a big enough printer to do that yourself, you can also export a PDF and have that printed at Kinkos.
Next one for sure!! 🙏🏼❤️🚲
Epic cliffhanger man 👌
Really looking forward to this project.
Loving this content! Part 2 gonna be awesome.
Cool series! One thing I've learned from technical drawing (old school style) is that protractors are notoriously inaccurate.
Truly the predecessor to the XO-2 some might say? 😂
Just suffering from my pancreatic attack gonna watch this series
Such a cool video! Love seeing the building process! Can’t wait to see how this turns out man!
Cool bike. Cool project. Cool music.
I have a 2011 Hunqapillar, elephant grey and kidney bean red. Love it.
My wife has a Crystal blue Cheviot.
Very good!
Love the Rivendell!
Wow this is awesome dude 😊❤ look forward to the next instalment 😃🚴🏻👍 Pete
Nice bike sir.
cool bike
You should start a newsletter as well.
Call it The Bike Farmer Illiterate :-)
BikeFarmer is one word with a capital F in the middle of it.
Beautiful beginning to a very complex project. The geometry and tube spec very much reminds me of my Thorn Sherpa. Looking good!
Just googled Thorn. Very cool bikes! I’ll have to buy one if I live through mine blowing apart on me while descending a mountain fully loaded!
Great content for its rainy can’t ride today anyway, that today is.
Oh hell yes I ride a Rivendel from 2003 passed down from my dad
and damn steel yess
Good timing. I'd been thinking about building a frame myself these last couple months. Not for extreme need - just for the exercise of doing it. Another good one here. Thanks. Cheers. 👍
Ope!, I've just dropped a comment.
Measure 67 times and cut once. This is serious bike stuff.
Fun video. I have a 650b Sakuki, which I love more than ( just about). I ride it everywhere. Use Rene herse tires too!
Sweet! Must really be something to ride a frame you brazed.
But seriously, riding a bike I built to the top of Mt. Evans (14,000 ft) is probably peak bike nerdery for me
Ohhh man. I have been eagerly awaiting this.
I’ve been dreading editing these! Something like 287 clips in the file, lol. I’m sick with RSV so I have nothing better to do. I also need to get the bike built up because adventure season is right around the corner!
@@bkefrmr Speedy recovery!
Psh, amateur, should've used solid steel bars. Super sturdy bike. I pitched it to Surly but I haven't heard back yet.
I wouldn’t be worried about the strength of the frame 753 is one of the strongest tube sets on the market. Enjoyed the video cheers
But in those diameters (and I’m guessing wall thicknesses), and with an above average sized rider, that frame has gotta be flexy when loaded.
Exactly. It’s done surprisingly well on most of my tours, but I found its limits on that horse trail
Wow!
Hell yeah!
build a folding bike next 😉
Hard no
looking forward to the next part!
Coming soon!
You win, this is your coolest bike. 🎉
Come to Montana and ride the Hiawatha Bike trail!
Really liking this! I'm wondering if this is something of a prototype of the everything bike you discussed with Russ? Can't wait to see the details!
i love your bike…But get why you want the confidence in stronger frame…i’ll take the trade off of weight for this too…
just curious about your tires…wondering what psi do you run with those…loved my 2.75 slicks for speed and comfort , but they were terrible on gravel with over 60 psi…also, i don’t get the drop bars because i can’t seem to be comfortable for any considerable distance with my hands much lower than the height of my seat…
btw , i ride about 25 -30 miles per day 6 days a week, but have never done any touring as of yet…
but you’ve inspired me to want to build a bike that i’ve sketched out that is completely non traditional frame , but with very similar geometry. sure weight reduction is important, but i want a very sturdy finished product that i can beat to shit if i want and not worry about failure…
maybe i’ll run my design past you to get your feedback…i believe our thinking is very much aligned conceptually…i am a purest at heart , and can see that you are very practical minded as well…
cheers to you brother!…i’ll be watching…
Just make sure you keep your bottom tube in the upright position.
Nifty project, should be a fun ride! I always thought the tourer in the Bridgestone line was the RB-T, not the XO-1. Maybe they assumed tourer meant more pavement, less gravel. Been a long time since I've seen my copies of the Bridgestone Owners Bunch and Rivendell Reader, so I don't recall all the why-fors and what-nots of the transition.
Questions: Any reason why you didn't go in the RB-T direction, or even with one of the current Riv designs? They still publish geometry and suggest 3 different wheel sizes depending on bike geometry.
Looking forward to how this project turns out!
fascinatingf
Fascinating, how did you learn to do this ?
Asking around. Watching videos. Just doing it.
Measure twice cut once! This is ambitious project, good luck! But honestly, why not just convert an old trek?
🤣😂 very different bike than “an old Trek”
I ran equations and some pythagoras to find the measurements precisely , before starting work on the 1997 frame project .
Once you get it together is there a plan for what you're going to name the bike, fancy paint job, graphics, front emblem?
The Adventurnuese, no graphics, raw steel coated in beeswax
Sounds pretty sweet! Better braze it up nice! Raw shows off your talent!
How long have you been dreaming this project up?
Where / how do you get the tube connections? Bottom bracket and all that? It seems that these are the hard parts to make!
Lugs are available from frame builder suppliers. There are inexpensive stamped steel and more expensive investment cast lugs that are specific to tube diameter and frame geometry.
You can buy all this sort of stuff from a frame parts supplier like Paragon.
Im a retired machinist. Making a BB from a chunk of steel would be a simple high school metal shop class project. A Simple cylinder with threads.
In the larger world of complex machinery, bicycles by comparison are extremely simple machines. That is their beauty in my opinion.
Would it have saved any time by throwing the original frame in the jig?
NOW YOU TELL ME! 🤦🏻♂️
Are you sharing your build with Grant?
What's in the "weird and fancy parts" drawer?
QR end cap adaptors for thru axles and vintage drilled Campy headset races and brass ferrules and such
. . . and make it Rinko compatible too.
Rinko schminko
man, this video makes me wanna order custom build bike frame. cant afford to buy riv bike 😂
cool vid as always 😁
Riv is way cheaper than custom
Huh, I'm surprised you're running Compass/Rene Herse tires on this bike.
You must have spent a pretty penny on them.
I have no idea what to do with this comment
Brazing isn't that hard , Tungsten Inert Gas which I did in 1997 was more challenging with 7005 alloy tubing . I had to do several mitre round cuts in a compound holesaw drill jig . My tolerance was 0.1millimetres and 0.05 degrees . Great care had to be taken .
I think it's a bit mean to ask you tubers to join to see part two, it's all about the money right?
285 clips totalling 5.5hrs worth of footage over 6 months. I don’t even know where to start with telling you how insulting and ignorant your comment is. You’re not a RUclipsr, I am. You’re a couch potato. Is that mean enough to make you watch something else?
Instruction manuals are way over rated, right?
mostly, yes.
First
sick bro 😎
@@bkefrmr I don't think I ever thought about how much effort goes into frame geometry, both designing and then making, but seeing the fiddle shows how nuanced it can be. Thanks for something different!
@@huihe953 thanks for appreciating it! More experienced frambuilders are able to accomplish this with much less fiddling around. But there is a lot to consider, no doubt!
Do you own any mountain bikes?
Not really.
Why does Donald Trump keep appearing for a second or two periodically on this video with the word “Wrong”?
Because what I’m saying is factually inaccurate, despite the fact that I believe it’s true. The Trump meme is from the 2016 Clinton debate when Trump would just lean into the mic and say “WRONG” while Clinton was speaking. I’m using a pop culture reference as a humorous attempt to bring levity to a humbling moment of public vulnerability.
Further, Donald Trump, who prefers to be called President Trump, is a polarizing public figure which I’d expect would trigger comments, which helps the algorithm, which helps me, so thanks!
@@bkefrmr Ah, I get it. Sorry. Sometimes I'm slow on the uptake. Very interesting video, by the way. Maybe BKEFRMR could also refer to “Bike Framer,” eh?
Keep in mind, you want your vids to be enjoyable and many don't find his face enjoyable.
Hitler was also a polarizing figure, they bring up a similar emotional response in many of your viewers.
Just FYI.
@@Commander_ZiN keep in mind that I want my videos to be authentic and I really don’t give a shit if someone is so politically insensitive they can’t take a joke 🤷🏻♂️
@@bkefrmr keep in mind you're the one being insensitive. You don't know what your audience has been through, all sorts could be going on in their lives. You deliberately did it to be polarizing.
Well when you don't give a shit about others, don't be surprised when they don't give a shit about you.
You brought political shit into your bike channel, I don't need that, you're probably not even aware of half the stuff going on.
Anyway, good luck with your channel but it's no longer for me. I thought you were nice...
Thanks!
Thanks hey!