Putting with stabilisers on? TaylorMade Truss putter review

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  • Опубликовано: 11 ноя 2024

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  • @jergernice1
    @jergernice1 4 года назад +1

    I had the Ashdon model. Couldn’t stand it but Taylor made made it a bit offset which I like. So I may try..

  • @briantreadwell2206
    @briantreadwell2206 4 года назад +2

    I may look at a putter this year - I’ll either look at the new Mizuno, or wait for the ‘new’ Scotty to buy an old one at knock down price (hopefully) - I’ll look at these, I should pay more attention as I missed the price, again !
    Like the review and testing 👍

  • @banditbaker1675
    @banditbaker1675 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for a well-balanced review as always James. The science behind the Truss Putters makes total sense to me and I will defo be giving them a try when I can. I noticed that a number of the Pros already had them in play at Pheonix at the weekend.
    The one negative for me is the name, at my age, a "truss" has a completely different association lol

    • @TheAverageGolfer
      @TheAverageGolfer  4 года назад +1

      They are strange to look at but I will definately be testing the centre shafted putter for a while longer

    • @banditbaker1675
      @banditbaker1675 4 года назад +1

      @@TheAverageGolfer Anything that helps my putting is potentially going in my bag.

  • @carpykeith
    @carpykeith 4 года назад +3

    I would have been more impressed if instead of claiming it was a “new” concept they had said they had updated a technology from the 80’s. After all, Titleist with the dead centre and Ashdon golf with the Bermuda triangle did it first! My thoughts!

    • @TheAverageGolfer
      @TheAverageGolfer  4 года назад +1

      If we look hard enough there is always a counter claim

  • @pauljohnson-ik7fl
    @pauljohnson-ik7fl 4 года назад +1

    Surely the most important consideration with different styles of putters is whether they are face balanced or toe balanced. The face balanced putter regardless of the design requires a different putting technique than a toe balanced one.

    • @TheAverageGolfer
      @TheAverageGolfer  4 года назад +1

      That is a consideration when buying a putter but this is a review of the TM truss not a buyers guide to putters?

    • @pauljohnson-ik7fl
      @pauljohnson-ik7fl 4 года назад +1

      @@TheAverageGolfer apologies , just re read my comment and it doesnt make much sense. great vid as usual by the way. the point i was trying to raise was that it looks like taylormade have turned what looks like a toe balanced, blade style putter into a face balanced putter. i was wondering whether that would require you to adopt a putting stroke that is more suited to a mallet style putter to get the most out of it?

    • @TheAverageGolfer
      @TheAverageGolfer  4 года назад +1

      paul johnson you have it spot on, the two I had are face balanced and as you say would be more suited to a straight back and through 👍 which clearly wouldn’t be for everyone

  • @paulhoughton5431
    @paulhoughton5431 4 года назад +1

    Good review Andy, why have TM gone back to slim grips? Are they expecting the user to get wristy?
    Seems to go against everything that TM have created with the Spider? I use two mallets a heavily weight TM Rossa Monza Spider and a Bettinardi Big Ben both with tons of moi, I use 2.0 Superstrokes to keep my wrists quiet. Both my putters are centre shaft and face balanced. Starting the roll on line is the crux of good putting and very individual. The best putters I have seen master putting on line and often have very basic putters. I wish there was a magical putter that guaranteed 26 putts a round but I think its a bit of a unicorn to be honest.

  • @marccaruso1351
    @marccaruso1351 4 года назад +1

    What a great move for the average golfer! Great design and I can’t wait to get one!

    • @TheAverageGolfer
      @TheAverageGolfer  4 года назад +2

      I will be testing for a few more weeks as I find in intriguing

  • @josephdubiel7129
    @josephdubiel7129 4 года назад +1

    I like the Spider S myself Andy. I would love to see a more in depth review on that one with some additional testing from you. Hope this finds you well.

  • @twinkedits8095
    @twinkedits8095 4 года назад

    I do like seeing different designs and why they design them it shows the OEM's are trying and it's interesting stuff ...

  • @mrdudelove1
    @mrdudelove1 4 года назад +1

    I still love the look of my milled face from my ghost tour black...they should get back at that...would look mor3 top end than blue insert

    • @TheAverageGolfer
      @TheAverageGolfer  4 года назад +1

      I think the finish is quality just struggle with the 'truss'

  • @mrdudelove1
    @mrdudelove1 4 года назад +1

    The TM1 look sick

    • @TheAverageGolfer
      @TheAverageGolfer  4 года назад +2

      I wasnt a lover at first but impressed by performance

  • @alanburch8499
    @alanburch8499 4 года назад +1

    Tb1 is slight arc

  • @simonh2011
    @simonh2011 4 года назад +1

    I always get about 6 notifications from golf youtubers reviewing the same product! The ban is lifted!! 😂🤣 I like the Spider S and the TM1. Wish it was black though

  • @urbangolf
    @urbangolf 4 года назад +1

    How we gonna change the lie angle on these ??

  • @patrickcardoso324
    @patrickcardoso324 4 года назад +1

    Great Putter.

  • @twinkedits8095
    @twinkedits8095 4 года назад +1

    I've tried mallet before don't like em... I've been using ping ansers for about 10 years now and my stats are better with blade putter 🤔 and I have done proper tests as well.. used mallets for 10-15 rounds and my putting was worse 👍👍👍

    • @TheAverageGolfer
      @TheAverageGolfer  4 года назад +2

      Dont use mallets😂

    • @twinkedits8095
      @twinkedits8095 4 года назад +1

      @@TheAverageGolfer 😆😆 Andy I stopped ha ha ha done it is a test mate ... Love to see new product though interesting concepts are what I like hearing about regardless if I ever use them 👍👍👍👍 love the vids Andy and more of lewis too👍

    • @TheAverageGolfer
      @TheAverageGolfer  4 года назад +1

      @@twinkedits8095 Thxs for support

  • @popeye5989
    @popeye5989 4 года назад

    Still not sure what the point in this club is-if ego is stopping you from getting the club that suits you best then you can't expect to lower your scores. I would love to play blade irons but I know that I don't have the skill level so I get fitted and lower my scores with the gear that suits me and my game (and apparently 60% of tour players agree 😁😁)
    P.s-how does the mallet style truss fit into the argument??

  • @superduperawesome6858
    @superduperawesome6858 4 года назад

    It look quite windy Andy - any effect caused with the profile catching the wind (45° to the direction of the putt)? ⛳💨😖

    • @TheAverageGolfer
      @TheAverageGolfer  4 года назад

      Just a light breeze! The putting surface is actually shielded at the point I filmed at.

    • @superduperawesome6858
      @superduperawesome6858 4 года назад

      @@TheAverageGolfer Do you think the extra surface area will catch the wind then?

    • @adrianjackman9422
      @adrianjackman9422 4 года назад

      @@superduperawesome6858 I am concerned that the lack of aerodynamics will slow the putter head down by 0.001MPH. We will no doubt have to wait for 2021 and pay an extra £50 for that model.

    • @superduperawesome6858
      @superduperawesome6858 4 года назад

      Adrian Jackman 😂

  • @bighaggis76
    @bighaggis76 4 года назад +1

    Hell of a lot of people on here calling this a gimmick and dismissing it out of hand. Try it before you slate it and call out those who buy one as gullible! What about those people who have got fitted for it and just chose the best putter for them? Are they gullible as well?

  • @craigedga4r
    @craigedga4r 4 года назад +1

    Just imagine a TB2 with a P2 grip 🐐💪👍🙂

  • @benthomas5151
    @benthomas5151 4 года назад +1

    Sorry i just could not use something that ugly even if it worked
    I did get the wide blade pxg closer putter which for me is a charm as i cannot use mallets they just mess my swing up

  • @dcheever07
    @dcheever07 4 года назад +1

    They look like something the Terminator would use. "I'll be back"

  • @JAG0071877
    @JAG0071877 3 года назад

    I have a TM2 and yes they do look ugly and take a bit of getting used to, but the performance when I am sinking putts from 5m away is outstanding. Function over Form. Also the paint jobs on Taylormade putters are rubbish. I sanded it down to bare metal to give it more of that shiny Scotty Cameron look.

  • @donnachalyons3904
    @donnachalyons3904 4 года назад +1

    What the figures with Ian and Matt on TXG

  • @adrianjackman9422
    @adrianjackman9422 4 года назад

    If it does work and the logic would seem to suggest it should why would you not have a bridge to the extremes of the toe and heel?

    • @TheAverageGolfer
      @TheAverageGolfer  4 года назад +1

      They have done that with one version but I think that is the most 'different' to look at

    • @adrianjackman9422
      @adrianjackman9422 4 года назад +1

      @Mike Eastridge You don't need to bend it but it will twist to an extent if hit of centre, that is just pure physics. How much of a difference this makes is more debatable.

    • @TheAverageGolfer
      @TheAverageGolfer  4 года назад +1

      @Mike Eastridge Bend? who mentioned bend? Are you referencing twisting?

    • @TheAverageGolfer
      @TheAverageGolfer  4 года назад +1

      Mike Eastridge cmon Mike is this a wind up? I think your getting a little confused

  • @robbiles
    @robbiles 4 года назад

    Andy I can understand how the center shafted would be more stable with that Truss being north and south of center but the fang style not so much as it's northern point starts at the center. Also, are TM just trying to get sales by hanging on to the name of the Spider because that looks total different to the previous models. Is it the fact that the developer of the original TM Spider took the design with him to Odyssey (Stroke Lab 10) but couldn't take the name and now TM can't use the design but still own the name. Maybe someone should ask TM & Odyssey. They'll tell us the truth wont they.

    • @TheAverageGolfer
      @TheAverageGolfer  4 года назад

      I agree it makes more sense on the centre shaft. With regards to Spider, it is far removed from original design, if your saying they cant use the original design then what can they do?

    • @robbiles
      @robbiles 4 года назад

      Andy I don't know the full legalities with regards to the Spider design but as you say it is far removed and I believe because the Spider was such good seller for them that they just want to keep the name going to hopefully keep the sales going. What they can do is produce a new putter design, which they have, but I would have thought they would have given it a new name. Maybe one of your subscribers has a legal back ground and can enlighten us.

  • @geirskjo
    @geirskjo 4 года назад

    Still only one point of contact. Moved 3/4 inch up the shaft.

    • @TheAverageGolfer
      @TheAverageGolfer  4 года назад

      ?

    • @geirskjo
      @geirskjo 4 года назад

      @@TheAverageGolfer There is no effect. The shaft enters the head at one point.. The fact that that point then splits makes _no_ difference. Only effect trusses placed like that had is making the shaft to head more stiff in the lie angle direction.

    • @geirskjo
      @geirskjo 4 года назад

      even that stiffness is negligible I expect. To have any effect in the lie angle direction the trusses must connect to the shaft above the center point of contact..

    • @banditbaker1675
      @banditbaker1675 4 года назад

      Sorry, Geir you are mistaken, a bracing truss is designed to spread load at its base, not at its apex. You need to check out the review that TXG did at the Kingdom the reduction in twist on off-centre strikes is substantial. On the TB2 model (with the centre shaft) there is virtually no twisting of the putter face when you have a heel or toe strike. The so the Truss putter acts just like a truss it spreads the load equally across the putter face so that the face doesn't twist with toe or heel strikes. The point that you are trying to make about the single apex point where the shaft enters the hosel is invalid and would only be relevant if that was the point that the ball made contact with the putter face.

    • @TheAverageGolfer
      @TheAverageGolfer  4 года назад

      @@banditbaker1675 I just watched the review and I am really pleased it confirmed in data what I felt in reality.

  • @marccaruso1351
    @marccaruso1351 4 года назад

    What are you talking about the looks?The first round of 1-2 three putts for 18, will take over that mindset! And then it will be a forgotten issue for most golfers.

    • @TheAverageGolfer
      @TheAverageGolfer  4 года назад +1

      I think most golfers will initially be drawn to a product on the shelf before they get to the course Marc?

    • @marccaruso1351
      @marccaruso1351 4 года назад

      The Average Golfer
      Wrong, this is a simple straight back and straight thru putter that tons of average golfers could benefit greatly from. No one I play with ever has confidence in opening the putter and then closing it address, over and over consistently. These people are on to something here. I use the same kind of centershafted back and thru stroke and have never putted better in my 10 years on the course. A winner!

  • @lazza51
    @lazza51 4 года назад +1

    Nope... that thing would bring more laughs than my old Nike Sumo square head driver... I’d be giggling too much over the ball cos of my mate’s banter to make any gains or use of it’s claimed tech...

    • @TheAverageGolfer
      @TheAverageGolfer  4 года назад +1

      What possessed you to buy a Nike Sumo square head

    • @lazza51
      @lazza51 4 года назад +1

      The Average Golfer: 😂 it was 10 or 11 years ago... Tiger was using one at the time .. same reason I had a King Cobra before that ... Tiger won the 96 or 97 Masters using that... I still have both in my ‘visitors’ bag... my choices now are not influenced at all by the Tour Pros..

    • @bighaggis76
      @bighaggis76 4 года назад +1

      @@lazza51 they would soon stop giggling when you started knocking in putts like a tour pro!!!

  • @BruceBusby
    @BruceBusby 4 года назад +1

    It's a gusset not a truss and in 90 off plane in order to make a contribution as advertised. The old hosel design isn't a known fault point in almost any name brand putter. This is a shameful bit of marketing wank dreamt up as a reaction to Odyssey/callaway 3 striped putter/ball combo. Might as well put the gusset on the Tee or the bag, it'll have the same outcome.

    • @TheAverageGolfer
      @TheAverageGolfer  4 года назад

      Are you suggesting they designed, manufactured a putter with 2 weeks of the triple track release?

    • @BruceBusby
      @BruceBusby 4 года назад

      @@TheAverageGolfer no, not at all but surely you know corporate secrets are available and could have been 'discovered".... I will tell you that I could design that putter, run the tool path program and have a prototype in 3 hrs or less in my little hobby machine shop. There's nothing revolutionary here! Certainly everyone can see the putter still only connects at one very familiar hosel to a standard putter shaft. Connecting it higher or lower, gusseted, braced, trussed, etc won't change that fact! Pure marketing bullshit!

    • @TheAverageGolfer
      @TheAverageGolfer  4 года назад

      brucenoneyabusness as I said to a similar commentator, reviews seem pointless right now? What the point in me taking several hours to produce content and try to deliver an opinion when all viewers want to do is dismiss all products without even trying them? I am questioning if product reviews are worth the effort 👍

    • @BruceBusby
      @BruceBusby 4 года назад

      @@TheAverageGolfer my apologies if I've offended you and belittled your efforts. That certainly wasn't my intention. I enjoy your reviews and respect your opinions. As a mechanical engineer, I see what others may not. I can even recognize the placebo effect as a valuable tool in this game but... occasionally we can't see the forest for the trees, can't objectively separate the facts from fluff. You're deep in the industry and likely get bombarded with new products daily at this time of year. There may even be a subtle application of pressure on you to help launch products and showcase companies offerings. Think about the value your channel brings to golf equipment manufacturers! You have a channel that we choose to subscribe to and voluntarily watch commercials of 10-30 min or more featuring brand A's products. The risk to them is small but measured. You may rate the product a fail (as Rick Shield did about the gusset putters). Eventually a company may choose not to include a reviewer if they have too many negative reviews. Channels like yours walk a fine line. Clearly you understand that while we're keen to watch what you produce, we can also spot marketing dept fecies. We don't need to be spoon fed. I'm quite keen to offer my completely unsolicited comments and you or any of your followers are quite capable of thinking I'm an ass for doing so. I'm not a hater of Taylormade. I game many of their products. I'm also clearly not attacking you or your content. You present the products you're given and relay the marketing material that accompanied them. I certainly trust you to be somewhat objective (nobody is completely objective) about the products you test and share. In this case, I see the marketing wank, I understand from an engineering prospective the complete fallacies of the claim, I also understand the unoriginal design (Titleist and the Bermuda triangle company) have both released this concept.
      The shareholders demand ROI. Sales screams at marketing for a gimmick to hype. Marketing goes to engineering, give us something amazing to sell, the new kid puts up his hand because he had an idea in the shower... and just like that a new putter line is birthed. Focus groups say he'll ya, that marketing wank sounds great and I'd pay even more for this odd thing. Marketing, sales, manufacturing, purchasing and some executives share some emails and meetings to set the price and release. And so it begins like all other inconsequential consumer products. Notwithstanding the occasional breakout revolution in golf equipment (think tunable graphite shafts), most products are evolution at best and more often marketing gimmicks.
      Based on your prompting; I will of course try to pry open my mind and test there putters and write an incredible retraction as pennance if my position is undependable.
      Keep up the good work, I'm sure I speak for most if not all when I say that we enjoy your content, efforts and dedication to golf. It's not about you! I have no expectations of you as far as objectivity. I'll buy golf products that work for me, or I like the look of or I think will lower my strokes or even impress my buddies. I'm not expecting many revolutionary products but I do expect golf manufacturers to hype the hell out of anything and everything to sell the stuff they make.

    • @TheAverageGolfer
      @TheAverageGolfer  4 года назад

      @@BruceBusby I appreciate you going to such lengths, I am not upset by any comments but trying to understand what viewers want/expect from reviews? There is a feeling right now that negativity is the only form of honesty that viewers appreciate and I find that worrying, as I said in my review when I opened the box I thought what the heck, and I fully expected to give a negative review, having tried the product (extensively) the centre shafted putter continually performed well, I relayed that positive opinion to the viewer (also confirmed by TXG in the form of measured data in a video I watched last night) so I am questioning do viewers want my honest evaluation or not? As I say negativity seems very popular towards any brand right now.
      In terms of your support of the channel and your opinion in the comments, I greatly appreciate both and like I say this isnt about being offended its about how to deliver content that delivers what a viewer expects. Your opinion is probably similar to a lot of viewers 👍

  • @garathjax420
    @garathjax420 4 года назад +1

    Think Rick shields pretty much covered this .
    Ugly/ugly and not as ugly.

  • @FunkmeisterOfSedgley
    @FunkmeisterOfSedgley 4 года назад +3

    These Truss putters are almost as ugly as their price!

  • @gimbalair
    @gimbalair 4 года назад +2

    Complete copy of the Ashton

  • @lanmurgatroyd9503
    @lanmurgatroyd9503 4 года назад

    If Truss is supposed to make blade style putters as stable as pallets...why have they made mallets with it...?
    They're ugly.

    • @TheAverageGolfer
      @TheAverageGolfer  4 года назад

      Not what I would class as mallets but I get your point

  • @liamfrancomb3535
    @liamfrancomb3535 4 года назад

    The Truss is a gimmick, they could have used a flat stabilizing bar that spread the load across the entire putter face

    • @TheAverageGolfer
      @TheAverageGolfer  4 года назад +1

      Great to see you back Liam I have missed your positivity

    • @liamfrancomb3535
      @liamfrancomb3535 4 года назад

      @@TheAverageGolfer
      Nice to be back.
      If the Truss did what they said it does.
      Why don't they use it on the driver?
      You hit the ball much harder with a driver than with a putter
      The truss is not a truss it is a gusset with Marketing Wank built in

    • @bighaggis76
      @bighaggis76 4 года назад

      @@liamfrancomb3535 have you tried it?

    • @liamfrancomb3535
      @liamfrancomb3535 4 года назад

      @@bighaggis76 Why would i try it ? They can't even get the name correct, the triangle steel on the top is a Flange not a Truss FFS

  • @markhilton4920
    @markhilton4920 4 года назад

    Old tech trust stile putters ,Titleist had one like this and so did another company, are they running out of ideas ? Didn’t sell last time cannot see it selling now

  • @jjd9990
    @jjd9990 4 года назад

    I'm not sure about these at all they aren't a good looking putter and I have to like the look.

    • @TheAverageGolfer
      @TheAverageGolfer  4 года назад +1

      I would have said the same but I am really surprised at the performance

  • @craigedga4r
    @craigedga4r 4 года назад +1

    🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

    • @TheAverageGolfer
      @TheAverageGolfer  4 года назад +1

      That must be good yeah?

    • @craigedga4r
      @craigedga4r 4 года назад +1

      @@TheAverageGolfer Definitely same as other comment seeing TXG figures - centre shaft - wow!!!!💪💪💪👍👍👍

    • @TheAverageGolfer
      @TheAverageGolfer  4 года назад +2

      @@craigedga4r Yeah I was so pleased it confirmed my opinion in numbers

    • @craigedga4r
      @craigedga4r 4 года назад +1

      @@TheAverageGolfer The Spider S as well again with P2 grip in Navy with white sight line s which i would customise and make red ie not to go with the Callaway ball!!!🙂🙂🙂

  • @ng8981
    @ng8981 4 года назад

    What a load of bull!
    You're so gullible if you believe that TRUSS spiel.
    And bladed putters aren't hard to play, you just have to put a bit of concentration into your stroke, which can only be a good thing. (And I'm talking about proper blades, not Anser styles)

    • @TheAverageGolfer
      @TheAverageGolfer  4 года назад +1

      agreed gullible if you bought any product based on manufacturing claims, however I would suggest stupid if you failed to try something based on ignorance?

    • @bighaggis76
      @bighaggis76 4 года назад

      @@TheAverageGolfer hit the nail on the head there AG! Stupidity would be to dismiss something out of hand without trying it. I got fit for the TM2 yesterday....couldn't miss!!!

  • @stevebebbington2507
    @stevebebbington2507 4 года назад

    They could be the Wayne Rooney of putters lots of quality but ugly as F### oh and by the way 6 more wins mate 6 more wins YNWA

    • @TheAverageGolfer
      @TheAverageGolfer  4 года назад +1

      They are better looking than Rooney! yes just 6 but could be 5 and that means Goodison!

  • @alanking5001
    @alanking5001 4 года назад +1

    Cant get past the looks 🤮

  • @DunnGolfing
    @DunnGolfing 4 года назад

    Don't know about average infomercial golfer maybe every video has an angle 👎