The irony is deepened by the fact that Zap's actions got him court-martialed in the first place. I just saw this scene and googled "futurama ad hominems" to see more like this and this was the first vid that popped up. 😁
One part of ad hominem that a shocking amount of people don't understand: an argument simply containing an insult doesn't count as an ad hominem, at least part of the argument has to be based on any attack on character to count
What’s the fallacy when you quote someone that has nothing to do with the topic at hand? Ex: “this ice cream sucks” “In the word of the great Albert Einstein, ‘I know not what World War 3 will be fought with, but WW4 will be fought with sticks and stones.’”
Sound pretty close to a red herring fallacy. A red herring fallacy refers to an attempt to change the subject and divert attention from the original issue. In other words, a seemingly solid but ultimately irrelevant argument is introduced into the discussion, either on purpose or by mistake.
There also is the appeal to authority here, where a person in an authority position is used to support an argument in which they are not an expert in, or whose references are irrelevant to the discussion at hand. It is sometimes tricky to know when it’s an argument from authority fallacy and when it’s legitimately just citing a proper source, however in the example you provided it could definitely fall into the argument from authority fallacy
That's what it sounds like. thank you for both descriptions, I think I needed both. @@killerkitten7534 This obviously is a ridiculous example, but sometimes I see no difference in this and someone's actual words.
The irony is deepened by the fact that Zap's actions got him court-martialed in the first place. I just saw this scene and googled "futurama ad hominems" to see more like this and this was the first vid that popped up. 😁
Thanks for this insight. I always wonder how the few people that find my videos do so.
I miss the days when we would call out ad homs whenever they happened. These days, it feels like ad homs are absolutely everywhere.
One part of ad hominem that a shocking amount of people don't understand: an argument simply containing an insult doesn't count as an ad hominem, at least part of the argument has to be based on any attack on character to count
Being court martialled should discredit his stance in the military
Zapp was also court martialed though
@@bobwilson679That makes it hypocritical remark not an logical fallacy
What’s the fallacy when you quote someone that has nothing to do with the topic at hand?
Ex: “this ice cream sucks”
“In the word of the great Albert Einstein, ‘I know not what World War 3 will be fought with, but WW4 will be fought with sticks and stones.’”
Sound pretty close to a red herring fallacy. A red herring fallacy refers to an attempt to change the subject and divert attention from the original issue. In other words, a seemingly solid but ultimately irrelevant argument is introduced into the discussion, either on purpose or by mistake.
There also is the appeal to authority here, where a person in an authority position is used to support an argument in which they are not an expert in, or whose references are irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
It is sometimes tricky to know when it’s an argument from authority fallacy and when it’s legitimately just citing a proper source, however in the example you provided it could definitely fall into the argument from authority fallacy
That's what it sounds like. thank you for both descriptions, I think I needed both.
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This obviously is a ridiculous example, but sometimes I see no difference in this and someone's actual words.