Ridiculously good: Elka + Roll Design = Best ATV suspension?
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- Опубликовано: 23 мар 2021
- In this video I unbox and install the new Elka stage 5 shocks and Roll Design's desert A-arms. After the install I take War Rig out for a shake down and give my impressions on the new suspension setup. #savesportquads #honda #trx450er #suspension
Roll Design Desert A-arms +2
Roll Design +2 steering stem
Elka stage 5 shocks (front and rear)
Elka '06+ rear shock linkage
Galfer stainless extended brake lines
Dirtfiend graphics
Rath signature series bumper
time stamps:
:30- introduction
:55- unboxing
6:28- tear down
9:33- front end assembly
17:50- rear linkage
20:43- rear shock
21:01- test ride intro
22:34- ride out
28:40- quick walk around
34:15- test on flow track
35:55- stress test through whoops
38:15- take it through the playground
40:39- closing thoughts 
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Crushed it man! Great video! Your quad looks phenomenal 🙌🤪
Thank you brotha! 🤙 I'm so proud of this quad. I can't wait to start the next one. 😉😎
Totally agree! I’m new to this channel and it’s awesome to see sport quad lovers are still out here!!!
Jed is a awesome dude he's helped me out a lot on setting up my daughter's trx450
That made it look 100 times better!!! Looks killer now !!!
Amazing Quad! Looking really great! Great job on that project :)
Killer video and suspension setup!! Congrats bud
I love that set up.looks awesome.
That is one great looking machine man!
Awesome stuff man!
I need to upgrade my shocks ASAP!
love the content keep doin what your doin
Yea your gonna love the shocks mine came super plush I could fly through woops now
Freakin' sweet man. Looks soo plush. 👌 Can't wait to see some race content. Now get on that podium some more brother.
Love the #savesportquads shirt man!
Dude.. bad ass setup. Jealous. Oh and love the dots pretzels always on the work bench haha. Those are the bomb!
Great video! 🤙
DOTS pretzels = Human Cat Nip.
@@SQUARE1SpeedChannel hell yea bro.🤘
Sweet Trx man! I actual found your channel before Pete Hagers so... if that says anything. Love your into by the way!
Well thanks man! Pete's channel is awesome. I had a great time riding with him and can't wait to do more in the future.
I finally got mine from jed waited 6 months for my Ltr450,yeah I got mine powder coated black ,wanted them for presidents at glamis and nothing lol can’t wait to install and hit Baja and glen Helen good video
Just subbed man! like the 450! I've got a 400ex with stage 4 elkas. Elka told me same 10-12 weeks. Ended up getting them in 2 weeks. Don't have much time on them. Great investment though!
Awesome parts upgrades man!! Stem and antivibe clamp is high up on my list of next mods!
According to just about anyone, they're a necessary upgrade. Still 50/50 between Flexx bars vs antivibe clamps for most people.
Why not both
@@baycitybanshee5238 i here alot about it being too soft, but then again other's say that's perfect for these races. I like a little feedback in my hands and some stiffness when I jump it.
SQUARE1 Speed Channel I’ve heard that before. I guess I’ll have to try it out for myself when I get all the parts for my build. I get a sharp wrist pain from riding so I can see why some prefer different setups.
@@baycitybanshee5238 I would love to see how it turns out. 👍
That look good
Same set up I run lobo front end and Elka shocks
I love y Elka Stage 5's.
Tabs for limit straps should be part of the design right? I wouldn't want the shock internals doing the job. Like how trophy trucks and other desert race cars are setup. I'm looking into different companies for aftermarket suspension for my 07 trx450er. I want trophy truck plushness! The stock setup on the front with softest settings and springs backed out all the way still feel hard. Even with with my 260 lb body!
Glad you got someone to answer but your shocks. I can’t get a call nor an email back.
I’m using a pep/lsr combo on my 05, hasn’t let me down once. Maybe try changing your camera aspect ratio to 16:9 @1080p, as that’s what your GoPro records on, it’s way smaller than the vlogging camera, other than that great vids man
The ride portion was in 16:9 @ 1080p. I recently changed all the settings on my GoPros and it works much better. 👌
Get a set of OEM tie rod ends to have as spares. Ive never had a set of tusk last more than a national weekend of riding. Next investment needs to be a steering stabilizer and you will be ready to race.
So far, so good on the ends, but spares are on the way. The hard part was getting things in time, between races. The OEM stuff takes longer and I needed something to make the next round.
Awesome setup, going to be rolling with same suspension but fox instead of elka.
I've heard great things about Fox as well. What is it going on?
It’s going on a banshee, it’ll be all roll design
@@baycitybanshee5238 nice! I really want to build an MX type banshee. I don't think it will perform the best, but maybe with some tweaking, it could be decent.
I love the fox on my 450r so much adjustability can't be beat lol
Quick question what bend are your bars?
Wish laeger still made there protrax front end, now that’s the best suspension ever made. With pep shocks
Protrax is a very nice front end especially in the Mx seen, the problem is they wear out quickly and don’t hold up as well as the ball joint from a maintenance standpoint, and if you want a xc setup forget about it they are very hard to find in a +1 Today if you want something that steers as good as a protrax you have to buy everything to go with Suzuki ltr450r geometry, you got to get spindles, brake calipers, and hubs from a ltr450r and order a-arms and steering stem, and tie rod ends with ltr geometry built for the trx450r it is the hottest setup as of today, almost all the top riders run the ltr450r geometry front ends even the yamaha yfz guys are doing it.
Would you by chance heppen to install the tie rod ball joints upside down at the steering stem. That would cause your binding on full extension?
Actually, it had a little to do with the amount of camber i had set in it, at first. The tie rods only fit that one way other wise it would hit other things.
Nothing like opening up a set of brand new shocks after a 10 too 12 week wait
😆 truth
Cool Pete hager t shirt
I wish I could afford new suspension for my 400ex, especially since I ride mostly at rolls and sycamore, (up on the rim too bur only when it's warm) it's bumpy as hell in those pogo sticks, I'm thinking if hoping for the float 3's since they are a lot more affordable to me. Nice video though.
Que Hermoso!
Greetings, what difference does it have with the same brand than without cheaper and different from the fox? I only want them for trails, no running but I would like the best for my back .....
Lengthy response: The reason I chose Elka is because of their quality and adjustability. I understand them a little better than Fox.
I ordered everything together from Roll Design. Doug Roll is amazing at tuning and building Elkas. He's also fairly close and at all of my races. It was a no brainer for me and I absolutely live them. Because I demand so much from my suspension (I'm 240 lbs) I wanted to go with a premium shock and arm.
If you are just joy riding, you will absolutely love these, but do not need them. They are extremely plush and responsive, but you'll spend alot for that. A good revalve and respring from Rocket Ron, BNR, or Derisi, etc... would be a great upgrade for the fun rider and trail rippers.
Axis and roll is the top secret weapon
@@rogerdshrubber6557 I'm definitely learning something about Axis these days. The new build is running them up front.
The ALBA break line clamps, were those something you had, or did you order those with the new suspension system? This is a killer video. Have my suspension coming from Roll Design I can't wait. Been racing on stock suspension for a year and it is killing my arms. Great job on describing what issues you ran into and how you fixed them.
I ordered those separate. They are very inexpensive and simple. They've held up great so far. You won't be able to run the rubber spacers with them because the Roll arms have a large diameter. I appreciate the feedback man 🤘
@@SQUARE1SpeedChannel I have one more question. Would you recommend getting new hardware for the install? Does the stock hardware hold up well? I guess that is two questions. Ok one last one and once you fully dialed in the suspension, have you had any issues with the set-up? Thank you
@@ParkerDirtCompany I would use new oem bolts. They hold up very well. Might as well start with fresh ones, so you know what you have. As far as setup, once it's dialed in it's pretty much "set and forget". You'll only need to make minor adjustments for comfort as the terrain/track changes.
Very good info! How are you liking that ls4 hood? thinking of getting one my self. Keep it up!!
It's pretty good. I drilled new mounting holes because I don't like the top tabs they come with. But it fits pretty well and looks great.
@@SQUARE1SpeedChannel awesome what website did you get it from?
@@DmanFpv ls4fibers.com
Wow man that’s an awesome machine, I’m an old new rider I guess you could say. I have an 04 TRX450R and wanna make it look good, where did you purchase those graphics if I may ask?
Those are on dfrskull.com
Dirtfiend graphics
Thank you, I’ll check them out. Awesome work and vids :)
Yo my guy. How long of brake lines did you get. I know you got a stem my guises the +2 will the + 1 work for longer a arms and no stem
Yes. You should be fine. Even at full turn I have a little slack left.
Where are you riding? I'm assuming southern Cali but trying to figure out roughly where
SW Arizona actually.
Why didn’t you get a-arms that have Suzuki ltr450r geometry?
Didn't feel the need and didn't want to spend the extra money at the time.
Yuma is my home town I go back every month or so to see family i have a 2007 trx 450 er. where did you get that radiator guard?
That's from Slick Rock Gear 🤘
@@SQUARE1SpeedChannel cool, and I’m assuming your bars are 1 1/8 did the stock handlebar clamps still work or did you need new ones?
@@carsonblake7219 you'll need new ones. Stock bars are 7/8.
How wide is the bike with the roll design bar from tire to tire?
Docatrox measured it at a race one day and said 55". That's with 4+1 wheels. I haven't measured it myself. 🤔
Nice quad. Where is that Desert? I would like to ride there.
This is in Yuma, AZ
Not a bad way to spend 6 grand! But elka factory setups do not hold a candle in the wind to what any of the race teams can make those shocks ride like! It was night and day after i got mine back from BNR. Rode 1000% better than they ever did since purchasing them brandnew in 2019.
Thankfully it wasn't 6k 😆 but it definitely is a premium price.
@@SQUARE1SpeedChannel must be getting some premium deals also. Cuz my math to buy that myself would be 5500 not including tax. So 100 dollars shy of 6k with tax.
@@brentpfeiffer4043 like I mentioned in the video, I was able to talk with Jed and work out a good deal. 👍
@@brentpfeiffer4043 otherwise I might not have gone this route.
@@SQUARE1SpeedChannel gotcha. Wicked build btw! Always like to see people not afraid to get there hands dirty and build there own quads. Anyone can have a shop build it for them. But real passion for the sport is building it with your own hands!
Does anyone know what thumb throttle is that red one he is using? Thanks
That is an Urmosi throttle. 👍
Is your frame OEM paint?!
Yes it is. I really want to gusset and powder it red, but don't have the time to break it down and do all that during the season.
@@SQUARE1SpeedChannel its super clean tho!
@@BrewerOffroad I got lucky by finding this one in such good shape.
Where are you riding? It looks like a good trail system. I live in AZ and am always looking for new places to ride.
This is all Yuma. Great riding around here. 🤙
@@SQUARE1SpeedChannel I thought it looked a little flat, not too many rocks either. It must be nice to live so close to Glamis. It's a 3 hour drive for me.
@@vintagetrikesandquads4012 it's like a dream come true man. 👍 I only saw Glamis in magazines, terrafirma and huevos films when I was younger. Now I can experience it.
Does it make a big difference with the suspension?
It really does. It helps handling, stability, comfort, and confidence. It should be the first thing you change. A set of revalved and resprung OEM shocks will make a difference as well, but when you start to add power with a stock suspension, it gets much more sketchy. 😬
Yo my dude I got a question. When you ordered your shocks did they send you that beefy linkage bracket or did you buy that separate?. I tried to find it on the site and was having no luck.
I got it in the package deal. If you call and speak with Jed Bunch, he'll set you up.
Package deal. What package deal. Soo I just ordered the Legacy series. I’m excited. Next will be longer a arms also do you have a steering stabilizer. And or a new stem
@@christianyoshida2755 like I said, if you talk with Jed you can get everything you need. I got everything together: A-arms, shocks, linkage, Dominator II axle and steering stem as a package
No stabilizer yet.
@@SQUARE1SpeedChannel what’s the benefits for a new stem.
I'm sure u already sold ur old shocks but if there is any chance u have them I'll buy them lol
those things up on the table are worth more than my quad LOL
I thought the same thing when I laid them out... I basically doubled the price of my quad 😆
What hood do you have?
That is the LS4 Brawler hood.
What brand is the dash
That's from Cecco Racing. He makes some awesome skid plates as well.
Why dont you record in 16:9 ratio?
I am now. I changed the settings on my cameras recently. I'm also in superview now.
Why don’t you run a steering stabilizer?
I don't feel that I need it, but everyone keeps telling me they're worth it.
@@SQUARE1SpeedChannel I have fox floats and the front setup and honestly I would just take a precision stabilizer honestly over the fox floats
Precision is the only way to go!! Ccp is a pretty decent budget stabilizer too tho
Had ocp build the top end of my 700xx last year. Thing is awesome! That guy does an awesome job
Awesome! I bet that thing rrriiips! He does all my cylinder heads and carbs, and for good reason.
@@SQUARE1SpeedChannel yeah next up is elka and roll design. Gonna be sticking with stage 3 though
@justinmochi7323 still a great set of shocks. When they're built right, they're good. And Roll is top notch. I've put mine through he!! and they don't fail.
I live in Arizona and offroad my quad .. what area is that ?
Yuma, AZ 🤙
@@SQUARE1SpeedChannel o nice !!
Where you riding at ?
Yuma, AZ. Fortuna Wash area
Are those GBC Ground Busters on the back? If so how do/did u like?
@yeetygonzalez5843 I really like the GB 3's. But my new favorite are the GB3 Pro's.
@SQUARE1SpeedChannel are the Pros really that much better?
@yeetygonzalez5843 slightly taller, and hold a squarer profile to improve contact patch on the ground. I like them better. Not a massive difference, but noticeable.
@@SQUARE1SpeedChannel do they both wear the same and have the same tread depth?
@yeetygonzalez5843 no. The pros have a slightly deeper tread depth and wear a little more even. They wear at about the same rate.
Hey bro ! I want to buy exactly the whole kit you received, where do I get it? Send me a link please I'm from LA
If you're from LA, you're not far from the guys at Roll Design in Fallbrook, CA. Call Jed at their number and they can set you up with the whole 9 yards and service it for you as well. Doug Roll is a Guru with Elka shock tuning.
@@SQUARE1SpeedChannel Sounds Great ! Thanks ! I appreciate it ! Hope I enjoy this kit with my Yamaha banshee :)
@@g.m1162 you'll love this stuff. Do you ride mostly desert, or moto, WORCS?
@@SQUARE1SpeedChannel Most of the time I ride in the style that you shot your video, which is why I need this kit to make it more comfortable and easier to ride :)
Is it worth it. I have a 05 trx and need some little more Suspension but not quite stage 5. More like stage 3 cause I don’t want to pay an arm and leg and kidney for shocks.
I can understand that. I've actually heard of how good revalving and re-springing your stock shocks is. Thats a very budget friendly way of getting more from them. But as for upgrading, it's absoluty worth it. It's much better than stock and I definitely got what I paid for.
@@SQUARE1SpeedChannel basically all my quad is used for is dunes nothing else and I’ve been looking around for a +2 a arms but not really sure who is good or what not. Unfortunately Elka doesn’t do the kit I wanted which was +2 hauser a arms and stage 3 elkas for like 1700.
@@christianyoshida2755 some other businesses put them together as a package and sell them at about that price. Who have you searched so far?
@@SQUARE1SpeedChannel like shocks or a arms.
@@christianyoshida2755 both
Haha Warzone battle royale quads 7:21
Where is that location?
Yuma Arizona
Have you ever ridden out at picacho before
No I haven't. Where's that?
@@SQUARE1SpeedChannel I live in yuma as well and it’s like a 12 mile drive from my house to it and it’s pretty good riding to me. I’ve been going out there my hole life and love it
Buy the stream line billet brake line clamps not Alba
I haven't heard of those. I'll check them out. These Alba clamps aren't staying put with hard riding.
I second Josh's suggestions. I ran stream line clamps on both of my previous YFZ builds and they worked great, never had any issues.
I’d roll design that much better than houser ?
Out here, the extra clearance and leverage ratio work really well with Roll Design. I haven't tried Houser, so I don't know.
Nope. Laeger's Pro Trax and Custom Axis. 😂
Got an email? Got some questions for you
Iseymour41@gmail.com
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iseymour41@gmail.com
Your brake lines are too short
you might hear your machine if you would get off the adderall and be quiet.. calm your mind not everything that runs through it needs to be said.
Kinda like your comment. 👍
Get a pair of real shocks.lol
stop talking and ride