Very odd things they have said, I don’t understand their language but I knew it was a matter of time until you went going to get some mud from EM/TESC folks. Honestly, things this year have been a clown show. The Head of EM, in his final gesture before leaving, decided to fire me. I’m not unemployed because I bounce back every time- but I feel like having you as a contact, mixed with the controversy mixed with some personal things may have been the cause. I’m still processing the conversations and analyzing how well the management played their base- at least the head of EM- to remove me. To think that all my experience on the council and being a student of two jobs ISOLATED from each other would have made me an asset. The activist and the media side, all in one but nope. I’m a well-rounded media producer and still they removed me. So here, it’s funny to see that you have them as your friend on FB and still passive-aggressively comment with the knowledge that you would see it. Yet, none of the staff ever added me on FB and some EM students even unfriended me. I’m intentionally posting this publicly. I never argued with anyone of the staff, never contradicted them and never said anything bad about them. Simply put, they didn’t like me. Yet I’m good friends with all their boss, the dean of media services. Hmm. What’s your take on that?
I think it speaks more to the climate of the place than the individuals involved, especially as this fits in a broader pattern of behavior at Evergreen.
I do not see any reason for you to apologize for 'attacking' people and not just their ideas. Yes I 100% agree to attack the ideas, especially bad ones, but if someone is being an @$$ hole then call them an @$$ hole. And their ad hominum attacks on you are just that, ad hominums. Thats not an argument but fallacies in Logic. Whatever their opinion of you is has NOTHING to do with the merits of YOUR well documented argument. Keep up the good work and you got my SUB!
Of all the things you've been called by your peers throughout your life, I'm willing to bet you never thought in a million years "frat boy" would be one of them
Absolutely important work at a time when I have less trust than ever in the MSM and I'm 140 miles from the nearest campus. A insightful, intelligent ring side reporter is much appreciated, even if the reports document a culture that seems so alien to me. Is anyone else having a hard time recognizing America?
Let them have cake... wait a second ... I think there is a historic reference there, but my education ignored or rewrite most historic events and context.
Benjamin A Boyce Honestly, your relentless intellectual fairness in the face of the human shit-storm of our current age is a big reason I haven't given into nihilism yet (I figure, if you can stay open and relatively positive on the front, I should try harder if I'm just watching it on RUclips). Never stop, even if they close that school your channel is important.
You had a toxic environment. In the workplace we are taught to handle dangerous situations by identifying, reducing harm, reporting it. This is what you have done, it is what you do if you have morals and ethics.
It's good that you're able to reassess yourself when challenged. You're not intimidated to look at yourself to assess if you've morphed into something unexpected. I like your videos and watching your thought processes.
I know I'm behind the times on watching all of these. but I'm so thankful Ben for you're documenting and commentary on all that happened at Evergreen. It truly is 1984 come to life. I only hope that exposing this insanity there and on every campus that breeds it will help people to stop supporting this mindset and any University that promotes it.
Kate here. The "narcissism" accusation is used a lot now as a conversational and debate stopper. I myself am encountering this when engaging in debate with people. A non-narcissist, ironically, would be unlikely to make such an accusation, even if they suspected that to be the case--in the middle of a debate--because that's not fighting fair. We appreciate your work so very much. It would seem your experiences in pre-school have specially prepared you for your work with adult tantrum throwers! God Bless you.
Your is far superior to anything I've seen by journalists on just about any issue. You are doing what journalism what meant to be. Keep up the good work and expand beyond Evergreen. You are good at what you do.
Of all the people that have talked about this situation I come back to you because you seem more fair about everything. Not throwing names all the time. Letting people involved speak for themselves. One of the few times with these situations I've really be able to have follow ups on what happened instead of it just going away. Maybe they consider that bad.
Kaileighblue I feel the same way. I get tired of the boiler plate criticism of this strange social movement. It's nice to hear an even handed respectful critic.
'It's one thing to smash decorum.... but then to eat all the cake!!!??? This should be on a headstone. It should be used at the UN hilarity get-togethers. It should be used as a permanent signal, sent across the time-space continuum to test for the existence of life on other planets. It should be the kick-off sentence in every philosophy book since Johannes Gutenberg did his thing. The implications of that one sentence, and it's exasperated utterance, made my day.
Keep up the good work! Bret has mentioned that he felt the school was apprehensive about the discovery process that would have come out from a lawsuit...sure hope you have some FOIA requests for that stuff. You have done a great job covering the effects of an irrational ideology, I'm interested in how people like Bridges are taking advantage of that irrationality to pursue their own agendas.
Haha Ben you just might be the furthest thing from a Narcissist on this platform. I am here to learn about this growing social trend and you are a fantastic teacher.
you know, i really appreciate this. i graduated in 2016. i didn't know about any of this. i hate that for the new police chief. and i'm no lover of authority. in fact i well nevermind, but ya that's really a shame so thanks for your efforts
Benjamin, you have to talk about the individuals too because these individuals have made calls for violence, and have commited actual violence, and at some point they are going to have to pay for the consequences of their behavior.
Can you give us a deep dive into the academic rigor of the school and the science departments, a general overview of the protesters scholastic paths? How many of them are still on campus?
Ben, you have fantastic patience. The fact that you survived visiting one of these protests and you were ultimately done in not by the piercing screeches of misguided youth, but by the behavior towards the cake is incredible. (and who would have guessed that these protesting sorts gravitate towards free cake!)
Going after someone personally VS going after their ideas depends on how they present their ideas. If they act like adults & present their ideas in an appropriate manner, then yes, you keep criticisms to their ideas. If they act like children, throw a tantrum & try to force their ideas, then yes, it's fair to criticize them. You can criticize an idea. You can also criticize the manner in which that idea is presented. Many of the students at Evergreen have gone to far. Their ideas deserve criticism but they found if they have a tantrum & start calling people names, people will be afraid to criticize their ideas. They present a bad idea, if anyone questions it, they call them racist, sexist etc etc. Basically, they are using that as a threat. Challenge our bad idea & we will take you down by accusing you of sexism, racism etc & we will get you fired. In my opinion, people using tactics like that do deserve criticism. Their ideas are bad so the ideas need criticism. They way they present & push their ideas is also bad & that deserves criticism as well. If you criticized them, personally, after they presented their ideas appropriately then yes, I would say you were wrong to do that. You went after them personally because they weren't presenting ideas appropriately & I agree with that. At a formal debate, two people stand at a podium & exchange ideas. You keep criticisms to the content of their ideas. If one person at that debate pushed the podium down, threw the mic & started screaming, then expanding the criticisms to their personal behavior is fair game in my book. I don't think you did anything wrong when you criticized people. Their behavior & tactics deserves criticism.
I am from new Zealand and I am wondering how crazy our colleges/universities have become here. you must be wondering how much of this craziness has spread through other learning institutions across America. the left are becoming unhinged and they seem to control all learning institutions.
Narcissists are not the type for introspection, self criticism, or reflection. You are NOT a narcissist. To some extent, everyone has narcissistic qualities but that doesn't make them actual narcissists. You attempted to impact change internally prior to going public and it didn't work. It's ok to identify individual people who continue to indoctrinate students into extreme ideologies and accept or encourage threatening behavior. You and anyone else that is aware of what's happening at Evergreen have an *responsibility* to continue to expose these issues until they are properly addressed. As a decent human being and faculty member, you are obligated to act in the best interest of Evergreen students. I can see they've been getting to you lately... don't forget that this is what they do to silence people who oppose them. Remain strong in your convictions. Thier behavior speaks for itself. You're just the messenger.
Excellent work, Ben. I'm glad SOMEone caught on tape this BEWILDERING display of juvenile rant and complete loss of ANY behavior which was commensurate with their age! I swear, Mr. Boyce, it's rare that this respondent runs out of suitable adjectives to describe such insanity, but that's the case. Can/will you let us know the outcome of the criminal charges? We rural Ohioans do our best to pretend that Left Coast even exists. Toil on, brother!
Assuming that you are a narcissist and frat boy, what does that have to do with criticism of this blatantly bad behavior? I mean, I've seen people flounder when they've got nothing, but it always seems really sad when they go this route (unless you're wickedly funny, of course). "Oh yeah! Well... you and your friends are narcissists! You're probably a frat boy! Haha! Got em! Check and mate!" Oh boy... Well, that certainly sounds like a scary wit you don't want to mess with.
I just want to say, what you're doing is great. I was very liberal until I went to Evergreen. The most awful people I ever met in my life were at Evergreen. When I get some days off work I'll share the videos I made when I was there. The media teacher at that time was an openly lesbian woman, but she was very fair and never brought that fact up in class. After she died, she was apparently replaced by this awful Naima Lowe person. I think you SHOULD call out the bad actors like Lowe. Because people are demonizing Mr. Weinstein. You see his name everywhere-- google "racist Evergreen professor" and you get his name instead of Naima Lowe's.
Why is this guy discriminating against mental illness? The question with Evergreen, is how much they can keep abusing human rights and get away with it. One thing for sure, they are not self-monitoring. All I see coming out from there is violent bigotry and antisocial behavior.
Ben I have never thought of your work as exposing the problems at evergreen. I have thought honestly that you've been a little easy on them. I have tried my hardest not to be critical of your work though. For one simple reason. The more I look at it, the more I see a trend with you to report what you see without bias. You may add opinion, but your content isn't built around that opinion. That's valuable! That's needed! Oh yeah. You like Fishsticks? I had to lol.
I'm so Sorry that you are being so DisRespected --by your/Our Own "Alma Mater" even! So Sad; and makes me Mad! It's Astounding how PREJUDICED nearly Everything that I hear coming out of there lately! I keep pondering: Have I myself Ever gotten that Frozen and/or Paralyzed by Fear, hiding out behind near Hate? I honestly don't think I have: BUT how then can such apparent HELL be occurring to folks we'd previously call "our community"?!
Frat boys, as a metaphor, references the forming into groups over shared superficial interests. Juxtaposed with campus connection event highlights the comparison to be made. Vogue is posing with style with grace and Narcissism is to be self absorbed. Lodge meeting describes the discussion of indian chiefs, a metaphor for a exclusive group of leaders. Which contrasts to the purpose of connections, therefore a reason for not knowing why such a group would be present. Plain speak. An exclusive group of self absorbed people serving no purpose at a social event. An appropriate response would be that one's presence was in support of the event and if that's how people are treated, it might explain a lack of support.
Benjamin--well articulated thoughts as always. I do, however, have one critique: 10:14 You say here that there may be flaws in the ways you've presented your findings, specifically in the form of going after individuals rather than ideas. I agree that the ideas should be the primary recipient of criticism, but when individuals make a habit of anchoring themselves to bad ideas and a pattern is easily recognizable, I think calling that pattern out is fair play (maybe even necessary). Less than a minute after making this admission, you open yourself to critique and ridicule because that's what having and sharing ideas is all about. Don't hold the students and faculty of Evergreen to a lower standard than that to which you hold yourself. They've already had too much free cake by my count. Please don't stop until you feel you've done the job you need to do, even if it doesn't turn out perfectly. Haters gonna hate!
More good work. Don't let these douches get you down. You are fighting the good fight and obviously have a brilliant future, especially if you can get off the west coast
7:24 kind of the definition of terrorism... the unlawful use of violence and *intimidation,* especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
Benjamin, you have nothing to apologize for. The individuals who are initiating this stuff need to be brought to account for their actions. Calling them out is appropriate. Very appropriate.
To be fair, it's difficult to talk about the ideas creating the cult-like atmosphere within Evergreen without the main figures responsible for promulgating them being focused on. Most of these figures seem to be teachers/faculty members and I've never seen you engage in attacking anything other than their ideology. Since ideologues tend to see criticism of their ideology as an attack on them as a person, it might not be possible for you to prevent them from feeling that way. I'm sure you know that though and it's still good of you to try. If you're a narcissist then I don't know what that makes the average person, because from what I've seen you possess an above average willingness to question and criticize yourself. You seem quite humble and open to the possibility that you could be wrong. It's a refreshing personality-type in the current political climate which is filled with sanctimonious attitudes. Anyways, thank you, keep doing what you're doing! You're great at it.
Very impressed with your ex manager. Why engage with the issues when one has clever epithets like "frat boys" and "narcissism" at hand to spare you the bother?
Thank god for Benjamin Boyce because this collage is an atrocity. The things that happened to Mr.Brett Whinestien (or however you spell it)Is horrible and shame on those student children. Shame on them then even worse shame on Bretts Colleges for not having his back but that's what made me most angry. From a fellow Washington resident.
I've never heard of a frat boy who used the word "tizzy" or ate fish sticks ;) Keep up the good work! It's always satisfying to see how SJWs cut off their own legs from under them. Your analysis of Evergreen is intriguing and a pleasure to watch.
I've noticed that the people who claim that 'words are violence' seem to go into fits of apoplectic rage because someone has dared to say something that they don't like and hasn't been cowed by peer pressure yet. It's not the words themselves being used, it's that the 'wrong people' are saying them.
Wow, see that...not only do you teach us about the anthropology of Evergreen but you throw in zoology! Animals of all kinds :D I try to learn something new everyday and you just helped me meet my goal...Thanks!
You are certainly not a narcissist but it appears they may be. It's all about them and they care not who they hurt or harass, even young children in their presence means nothing. It's all about them and the cake apparently. If they were really cool they would only eat the cake if it were vegan. I'm glad you keep exposing this because they are hurting others and don't care.
You should point out the people, not just the ideas. Most of this is just and excuse to be racist and have fun abusing the staff. Notice how they DANCE when they protest and look HAPPY ! That isn't people upset about some unjustice. But I'm sure some people were there thinking that. Espicially Naimi Lowe and anyone like her should be pointed out for making people sexist and racist and causing violence in and outside the school when they find out how racist it was and how nobody was ever punished. All of these people teaching racist and sexism need to be EXPOSED so people will wake up and remove them from all schools. Before we get a sex and race war like they want !
Do you think you can separate this people from their ideas? People in your institution make decisions that are harmful not only to university, but for students too. This is what adults call “responsibility”. They make decision - they have to answer for it. When I have had “bad coworker” I have tell this to my boss. This is hard - but you already began this, so don’t be apologetic - they will fire you if they can. Stay strong :)
This is my thought exactly. And YOU make all this Publik. You must defend your interest first, but I think it is ok to name people. I mean - don't worry to much - there are lots of people who like your work.
I would say that the college has "reaped what is sown". I would also say that back then most people on campus didn't take themselves too seriously but the critical theory/SJW element was present.
This whole thing is about trying to kick people off of campus and 1 guy said I disagree. We are oppressed because we tried to kick someone out of a public place and he said no. They will come up with anything to whine and cry.
I believe that what you are doing is crucial. I think we should all see what anarchy truly is and I think Evergreen displayed it closer than anything we've seen here locally.
I often wonder how ashamed these young people will feel when they've grown older and wiser and realize how misguided their good intentions were, how susceptible they were to radicalism and manipulation, how poor their judgment, and how lacking in compassion and consideration their behaviour was. I wonder that about NFL players too, as the tide of their administration turns in the face of disappearing profits. What warms my heart are 2 realities - 1) that the US, while not immune, does seem to be less susceptible to the infection of George Soros and his ilk's attempts at social engineering - and 2) the reality that there is always a swinging pendulum at work, one can only push radical leftism so far, before the radicals find themselves at the mercy of an ever-growing backlash. I have tremendous faith in humanity, that our collective ridiculousness can only ever go so far before we self-correct.
From a Psychoanalytic perspective the origin of this behavior is not from what they are being taught. The origin of the behavior can be illustrated by Freud's "Civilization and its Discontents" and from theories of narcissistic injury. What the various theories do however is teach these students to externalize the narcissistic injuries in specific ways. All forms of propaganda do this. For example if you look at WW1 & WW2 propaganda the purpose of it is to have a mass projection onto an enemy and to project the individual body onto the concept of the nation. So an invasion is felt to be a personal attack. The other thing that these theories do is eradicate self reflection and interiority. Once again, the question would be how to return to this cultural attitude? I would argue that one of the main culprits is a culture that actually caters to adolescent thinking and reinforces it. To reverse the trend in my opinion requires adults who have done some sort of interior psychological work to be more influential than the adolescent mindset. It is in psychology, in perennial philosophy, in certain religious scholars like Paul Tillich etc. but all of these things have far less influence than ever. It would be an equal mistake to believe it is in all advocates of these theories either but I believe these theories hit closer to the mark and in the very least says "real wisdom will not arrive until after 35" (more or less).
It's individuals that have ideas. And it wasn't ideas that ate the cake and cursed around very young children. Bad people should be called out, along with bad ideas.
Ben, you are completely balanced and a voice of reason. You should be very proud of what you are doing for the community... Now let's play some beer pong.
wow there are like 8 of them screaming, why is this an issue, they should be arrested every time and that would end this crap.. gez why do they take this crap?
Everyone has some sense of narcissism. You have to in order to survive in the world. The problem is when it becomes so over the top that it becomes Narcissistic personality disorder. You exposing Evergreen and these adults with impulse control problems and with perhaps real narcissistic personality disorders is not the problem as obviously you already know.
I can`t even phatom that Evergreen after all this don`t seem to realize that there just might be something wrong with what they are actually teaching their students.
Very odd things they have said, I don’t understand their language but I knew it was a matter of time until you went going to get some mud from EM/TESC folks.
Honestly, things this year have been a clown show. The Head of EM, in his final gesture before leaving, decided to fire me. I’m not unemployed because I bounce back every time- but I feel like having you as a contact, mixed with the controversy mixed with some personal things may have been the cause.
I’m still processing the conversations and analyzing how well the management played their base- at least the head of EM- to remove me. To think that all my experience on the council and being a student of two jobs ISOLATED from each other would have made me an asset. The activist and the media side, all in one but nope. I’m a well-rounded media producer and still they removed me.
So here, it’s funny to see that you have them as your friend on FB and still passive-aggressively comment with the knowledge that you would see it. Yet, none of the staff ever added me on FB and some EM students even unfriended me.
I’m intentionally posting this publicly. I never argued with anyone of the staff, never contradicted them and never said anything bad about them. Simply put, they didn’t like me. Yet I’m good friends with all their boss, the dean of media services. Hmm.
What’s your take on that?
I think it speaks more to the climate of the place than the individuals involved, especially as this fits in a broader pattern of behavior at Evergreen.
I do not see any reason for you to apologize for 'attacking' people and not just their ideas. Yes I 100% agree to attack the ideas, especially bad ones, but if someone is being an @$$ hole then call them an @$$ hole.
And their ad hominum attacks on you are just that, ad hominums. Thats not an argument but fallacies in Logic. Whatever their opinion of you is has NOTHING to do with the merits of YOUR well documented argument.
Keep up the good work and you got my SUB!
Ben
Suffer their slings and arrows, they are but gnats to the giants of truth
Cake Table. Thats hilarious.
Of all the things you've been called by your peers throughout your life, I'm willing to bet you never thought in a million years "frat boy" would be one of them
I thought he was being called the "vogue". That's pretty neat.
Excellent video as always
Keep it up, Ben. You're doing important work.
Absolutely important work at a time when I have less trust than ever in the MSM and I'm 140 miles from the nearest campus. A insightful, intelligent ring side reporter is much appreciated, even if the reports document a culture that seems so alien to me. Is anyone else having a hard time recognizing America?
This President George Bridges needs to be replaced with a Marine or Navy Seal. Ooh, that I would pay to see. Haaaaaa!
I look forward to more of your videos. Keep at it !!!
Ben we need people like you. Keep it coming. For me it's lonely sometimes standing up to this kind of thing, but at least I can sleep at night
Let them have cake... wait a second ... I think there is a historic reference there, but my education ignored or rewrite most historic events and context.
When you're over the target, expect flak!
gorfulator bang on correct.
All these children involved needs to be EXPELLED, and professors, faculty promoting this fired. Or just shut the toxic place down!
I'm glad you are doing this. Please continue. What's going on at Evergreen is cancerous.
I'm still bewildered.
We need you Ben. My sanity depends on your videos in these crazy times
Damn. I knew I’ve had 40 years of early-onset performance anxiety for a reason. At least now I know why.
Benjamin A Boyce Honestly, your relentless intellectual fairness in the face of the human shit-storm of our current age is a big reason I haven't given into nihilism yet (I figure, if you can stay open and relatively positive on the front, I should try harder if I'm just watching it on RUclips). Never stop, even if they close that school your channel is important.
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You had a toxic environment. In the workplace we are taught to handle dangerous situations by identifying, reducing harm, reporting it. This is what you have done, it is what you do if you have morals and ethics.
Thank you. Keep it up.
You don't need to worry about being a narcissist. Real Narcissists are so narcissistic that they readily admit to their fault.
It's good that you're able to reassess yourself when challenged. You're not intimidated to look at yourself to assess if you've morphed into something unexpected.
I like your videos and watching your thought processes.
I know I'm behind the times on watching all of these. but I'm so thankful Ben for you're documenting and commentary on all that happened at Evergreen. It truly is 1984 come to life. I only hope that exposing this insanity there and on every campus that breeds it will help people to stop supporting this mindset and any University that promotes it.
Kate here. The "narcissism" accusation is used a lot now as a conversational and debate stopper. I myself am encountering this when engaging in debate with people. A non-narcissist, ironically, would be unlikely to make such an accusation, even if they suspected that to be the case--in the middle of a debate--because that's not fighting fair. We appreciate your work so very much. It would seem your experiences in pre-school have specially prepared you for your work with adult tantrum throwers! God Bless you.
Nice Story man, especially the cake part.
Marie Antoinette really made a mark of them, apparently.
Your is far superior to anything I've seen by journalists on just about any issue. You are doing what journalism what meant to be. Keep up the good work and expand beyond Evergreen. You are good at what you do.
Sometimes when you're in the midst of a revolution to bring down the capitalist patriarchy, you gotta take a cake break.
Of all the people that have talked about this situation I come back to you because you seem more fair about everything. Not throwing names all the time. Letting people involved speak for themselves. One of the few times with these situations I've really be able to have follow ups on what happened instead of it just going away.
Maybe they consider that bad.
Kaileighblue I feel the same way. I get tired of the boiler plate criticism of this strange social movement. It's nice to hear an even handed respectful critic.
'It's one thing to smash decorum.... but then to eat all the cake!!!??? This should be on a headstone. It should be used at the UN hilarity get-togethers. It should be used as a permanent signal, sent across the time-space continuum to test for the existence of life on other planets. It should be the kick-off sentence in every philosophy book since Johannes Gutenberg did his thing. The implications of that one sentence, and it's exasperated utterance, made my day.
Keep up the good work! Bret has mentioned that he felt the school was apprehensive about the discovery process that would have come out from a lawsuit...sure hope you have some FOIA requests for that stuff. You have done a great job covering the effects of an irrational ideology, I'm interested in how people like Bridges are taking advantage of that irrationality to pursue their own agendas.
Haha Ben you just might be the furthest thing from a Narcissist on this platform. I am here to learn about this growing social trend and you are a fantastic teacher.
Thanks, +S1a2m
you know, i really appreciate this. i graduated in 2016. i didn't know about any of this. i hate that for the new police chief. and i'm no lover of authority. in fact i well nevermind, but ya that's really a shame so thanks for your efforts
and about those f-ers eating the cake... thats high-larious. what a buncha spoiled American brats
Benjamin, you have to talk about the individuals too because these individuals have made calls for violence, and have commited actual violence, and at some point they are going to have to pay for the consequences of their behavior.
My brain may be a little off .... I thought the chant was " NO JUSTICE.... NO CAKE ! "
Can you give us a deep dive into the academic rigor of the school and the science departments, a general overview of the protesters scholastic paths? How many of them are still on campus?
Your in the possession of fantastic talents, and should be given high praise for using them for the good of society 👍👍👍 BRAVO...
+A. PINOCHET *deep bow*
Strength of character is taking responsibility for your actions you have strength of character Benjamin.
Ben, you have fantastic patience. The fact that you survived visiting one of these protests and you were ultimately done in not by the piercing screeches of misguided youth, but by the behavior towards the cake is incredible. (and who would have guessed that these protesting sorts gravitate towards free cake!)
If I wasn’t a narcissist... I’d be perfect!
Going after someone personally VS going after their ideas depends on how they present their ideas. If they act like adults & present their ideas in an appropriate manner, then yes, you keep criticisms to their ideas.
If they act like children, throw a tantrum & try to force their ideas, then yes, it's fair to criticize them. You can criticize an idea. You can also criticize the manner in which that idea is presented.
Many of the students at Evergreen have gone to far. Their ideas deserve criticism but they found if they have a tantrum & start calling people names, people will be afraid to criticize their ideas.
They present a bad idea, if anyone questions it, they call them racist, sexist etc etc. Basically, they are using that as a threat. Challenge our bad idea & we will take you down by accusing you of sexism, racism etc & we will get you fired.
In my opinion, people using tactics like that do deserve criticism. Their ideas are bad so the ideas need criticism. They way they present & push their ideas is also bad & that deserves criticism as well.
If you criticized them, personally, after they presented their ideas appropriately then yes, I would say you were wrong to do that. You went after them personally because they weren't presenting ideas appropriately & I agree with that.
At a formal debate, two people stand at a podium & exchange ideas. You keep criticisms to the content of their ideas.
If one person at that debate pushed the podium down, threw the mic & started screaming, then expanding the criticisms to their personal behavior is fair game in my book.
I don't think you did anything wrong when you criticized people. Their behavior & tactics deserves criticism.
Wow. It is nice to know that Evergreen has such professional managers.
keep up the good work Ben. this s#it needs to be exposed.
Thanks Mike!
I am from new Zealand and I am wondering how crazy our colleges/universities have become here. you must be wondering how much of this craziness has spread through other learning institutions across America. the left are becoming unhinged and they seem to control all learning institutions.
They stole the damn cake.
Narcissists are not the type for introspection, self criticism, or reflection. You are NOT a narcissist. To some extent, everyone has narcissistic qualities but that doesn't make them actual narcissists. You attempted to impact change internally prior to going public and it didn't work. It's ok to identify individual people who continue to indoctrinate students into extreme ideologies and accept or encourage threatening behavior. You and anyone else that is aware of what's happening at Evergreen have an *responsibility* to continue to expose these issues until they are properly addressed. As a decent human being and faculty member, you are obligated to act in the best interest of Evergreen students. I can see they've been getting to you lately... don't forget that this is what they do to silence people who oppose them. Remain strong in your convictions. Thier behavior speaks for itself. You're just the messenger.
Totally agree. A correction: Benjamin is a recent Evergreen grad and was a student employee not a faculty member.
Keiko K. Oh ok. Thanks for the info :).
Excellent work, Ben. I'm glad SOMEone caught on tape this BEWILDERING display of juvenile rant and complete loss of ANY behavior which was commensurate with their age! I swear, Mr. Boyce, it's rare that this respondent runs out of suitable adjectives to describe such insanity, but that's the case. Can/will you let us know the outcome of the criminal charges? We rural Ohioans do our best to pretend that Left Coast even exists. Toil on, brother!
Assuming that you are a narcissist and frat boy, what does that have to do with criticism of this blatantly bad behavior? I mean, I've seen people flounder when they've got nothing, but it always seems really sad when they go this route (unless you're wickedly funny, of course).
"Oh yeah! Well... you and your friends are narcissists! You're probably a frat boy! Haha! Got em! Check and mate!"
Oh boy... Well, that certainly sounds like a scary wit you don't want to mess with.
It's just name calling/straw manning
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Benjamin A Boyce too cool for school.....LOL
No, you're NOT a narcissist and you're exposing horribly nasty and even illegal behavior. The world needs to see this. Keep it up, Benjamin.
Thank you for exposing this shameful behavior, Ben.
I just want to say, what you're doing is great. I was very liberal until I went to Evergreen. The most awful people I ever met in my life were at Evergreen. When I get some days off work I'll share the videos I made when I was there.
The media teacher at that time was an openly lesbian woman, but she was very fair and never brought that fact up in class. After she died, she was apparently replaced by this awful Naima Lowe person.
I think you SHOULD call out the bad actors like Lowe. Because people are demonizing Mr. Weinstein. You see his name everywhere-- google "racist Evergreen professor" and you get his name instead of Naima Lowe's.
+Shin Seiki Evan Is love to talk some time. DM me when you’re free.
Why is this guy discriminating against mental illness?
The question with Evergreen, is how much they can keep abusing human rights and get away with it.
One thing for sure, they are not self-monitoring.
All I see coming out from there is violent bigotry and antisocial behavior.
Ben I have never thought of your work as exposing the problems at evergreen. I have thought honestly that you've been a little easy on them. I have tried my hardest not to be critical of your work though. For one simple reason. The more I look at it, the more I see a trend with you to report what you see without bias. You may add opinion, but your content isn't built around that opinion. That's valuable! That's needed!
Oh yeah. You like Fishsticks? I had to lol.
Just between me and you, there is certainly a dragon I’m trying to slay, but it’s a subtle dragon of webs and inferences, not that of fire and might.
I'm so Sorry that you are being so DisRespected --by your/Our Own "Alma Mater" even! So Sad; and makes me Mad! It's Astounding how PREJUDICED nearly Everything that I hear coming out of there lately! I keep pondering: Have I myself Ever gotten that Frozen and/or Paralyzed by Fear, hiding out behind near Hate? I honestly don't think I have: BUT how then can such apparent HELL be occurring to folks we'd previously call "our community"?!
Would love to see a video of you chatting to Matt Christiansen.
You like fishsticks? Keep up the good work Dude.
Frat boys, as a metaphor, references the forming into groups over shared superficial interests. Juxtaposed with campus connection event highlights the comparison to be made. Vogue is posing with style with grace and Narcissism is to be self absorbed. Lodge meeting describes the discussion of indian chiefs, a metaphor for a exclusive group of leaders. Which contrasts to the purpose of connections, therefore a reason for not knowing why such a group would be present.
Plain speak. An exclusive group of self absorbed people serving no purpose at a social event.
An appropriate response would be that one's presence was in support of the event and if that's how people are treated, it might explain a lack of support.
Evergreen Bitches Be Crazy.
Benjamin--well articulated thoughts as always. I do, however, have one critique:
10:14 You say here that there may be flaws in the ways you've presented your findings, specifically in the form of going after individuals rather than ideas. I agree that the ideas should be the primary recipient of criticism, but when individuals make a habit of anchoring themselves to bad ideas and a pattern is easily recognizable, I think calling that pattern out is fair play (maybe even necessary).
Less than a minute after making this admission, you open yourself to critique and ridicule because that's what having and sharing ideas is all about. Don't hold the students and faculty of Evergreen to a lower standard than that to which you hold yourself. They've already had too much free cake by my count.
Please don't stop until you feel you've done the job you need to do, even if it doesn't turn out perfectly. Haters gonna hate!
+slipp3ryslop3 Many thanks.
Having viewed many of your episodes, if you will, I look forward to your talents exposing to all this cautionary tale.
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More good work. Don't let these douches get you down. You are fighting the good fight and obviously have a brilliant future, especially if you can get off the west coast
7:24 kind of the definition of terrorism... the unlawful use of violence and *intimidation,* especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
Benjamin, you have nothing to apologize for. The individuals who are initiating this stuff need to be brought to account for their actions. Calling them out is appropriate. Very appropriate.
These protestors wanted to have their cake and eat it? Typical spoilt brat behaviour!
why are they not getting sued, and locked up. this is ridiculous
To be fair, it's difficult to talk about the ideas creating the cult-like atmosphere within Evergreen without the main figures responsible for promulgating them being focused on. Most of these figures seem to be teachers/faculty members and I've never seen you engage in attacking anything other than their ideology. Since ideologues tend to see criticism of their ideology as an attack on them as a person, it might not be possible for you to prevent them from feeling that way.
I'm sure you know that though and it's still good of you to try.
If you're a narcissist then I don't know what that makes the average person, because from what I've seen you possess an above average willingness to question and criticize yourself. You seem quite humble and open to the possibility that you could be wrong. It's a refreshing personality-type in the current political climate which is filled with sanctimonious attitudes. Anyways, thank you, keep doing what you're doing! You're great at it.
Thanks Natalie.
A fool's first line of attack is the ad hominem, and we all know you've been exposing pure fools.
Very impressed with your ex manager. Why engage with the issues when one has clever epithets like "frat boys" and "narcissism" at hand to spare you the bother?
Thank god for Benjamin Boyce because this collage is an atrocity. The things that happened to Mr.Brett Whinestien (or however you spell it)Is horrible and shame on those student children. Shame on them then even worse shame on Bretts Colleges for not having his back but that's what made me most angry. From a fellow Washington resident.
I've never heard of a frat boy who used the word "tizzy" or ate fish sticks ;)
Keep up the good work! It's always satisfying to see how SJWs cut off their own legs from under them. Your analysis of Evergreen is intriguing and a pleasure to watch.
ghostofdayinperson I was in a frat.
I love fish sticks, have used "up in a tissy" etc.
Just another misconception of some frat guys
Let them eat cake.
Forget the critics, I'll preorder your Evergreen book right now
Not possible. There aren't any fraternities at Evergreen. 😜
No justice no peace nom nom nom
I've noticed that the people who claim that 'words are violence' seem to go into fits of apoplectic rage because someone has dared to say something that they don't like and hasn't been cowed by peer pressure yet.
It's not the words themselves being used, it's that the 'wrong people' are saying them.
File a civil lawsuit.
You should not even respond to stuff like this, fuck that negative shit, you know you're doing the right thing.
Ummm, you had me until the petrified mouse. LMAO I'm glad to see others have mice problems that aren't computer related :D
‘‘Twas a vole, Amy French.
Wow, see that...not only do you teach us about the anthropology of Evergreen but you throw in zoology! Animals of all kinds :D I try to learn something new everyday and you just helped me meet my goal...Thanks!
You are certainly not a narcissist but it appears they may be. It's all about them and they care not who they hurt or harass, even young children in their presence means nothing. It's all about them and the cake apparently. If they were really cool they would only eat the cake if it were vegan. I'm glad you keep exposing this because they are hurting others and don't care.
You should point out the people, not just the ideas. Most of this is just and excuse to be racist and have fun abusing the staff. Notice how they DANCE when they protest and look HAPPY ! That isn't people upset about some unjustice. But I'm sure some people were there thinking that. Espicially Naimi Lowe and anyone like her should be pointed out for making people sexist and racist and causing violence in and outside the school when they find out how racist it was and how nobody was ever punished.
All of these people teaching racist and sexism need to be EXPOSED so people will wake up and remove them from all schools. Before we get a sex and race war like they want !
The Borg. They are the Borg
Have you asked for one of your adversaries, to have a civilized & unedited discussion/debate with you, on your channel?
Are you saying that when students are taught crazy ideas, they will act accordingly?
Individuals who push ideologies in a college need to be exposed, not just their ideologies. You did the correct thing.
Do you think you can separate this people from their ideas? People in your institution make decisions that are harmful not only to university, but for students too. This is what adults call “responsibility”. They make decision - they have to answer for it. When I have had “bad coworker” I have tell this to my boss. This is hard - but you already began this, so don’t be apologetic - they will fire you if they can. Stay strong :)
Ans as this is a state institution, their boss is the public.
This is my thought exactly. And YOU make all this Publik. You must defend your interest first, but I think it is ok to name people. I mean - don't worry to much - there are lots of people who like your work.
I think that you are doing a service to the public by exposing what Evergreen has turned into. I also like your sweater.
+Jason Conforti Thanks. My mom gave it to me. I thought it was weird at first but it’s grown on me.
I worked at Evergreen about 15 years ago.
+Jason Conforti Has it changed? Or fruited?
I would say that the college has "reaped what is sown". I would also say that back then most people on campus didn't take themselves too seriously but the critical theory/SJW element was present.
This whole thing is about trying to kick people off of campus and 1 guy said I disagree. We are oppressed because we tried to kick someone out of a public place and he said no. They will come up with anything to whine and cry.
6:15 Evergreen protesters certainly put the “cult” in “culture.”
I believe that what you are doing is crucial. I think we should all see what anarchy truly is and I think Evergreen displayed it closer than anything we've seen here locally.
Don't worry about it. It's just projection. If these people had anymore projection, IMAX would be employing them to show movies.
When you eat all of the cake, you've far crossed the line!
These children need a better outlet for expressing their negative emotions. What they are doing only feeds their own anger and foments fear.
I don't think the criticism is genuine or valid. I think you've been remarkably polite and restrained.
Well, you know they're high.. so, yeah. Cake.
I often wonder how ashamed these young people will feel when they've grown older and wiser and realize how misguided their good intentions were, how susceptible they were to radicalism and manipulation, how poor their judgment, and how lacking in compassion and consideration their behaviour was. I wonder that about NFL players too, as the tide of their administration turns in the face of disappearing profits. What warms my heart are 2 realities - 1) that the US, while not immune, does seem to be less susceptible to the infection of George Soros and his ilk's attempts at social engineering - and 2) the reality that there is always a swinging pendulum at work, one can only push radical leftism so far, before the radicals find themselves at the mercy of an ever-growing backlash. I have tremendous faith in humanity, that our collective ridiculousness can only ever go so far before we self-correct.
From a Psychoanalytic perspective the origin of this behavior is not from what they are being taught. The origin of the behavior can be illustrated by Freud's "Civilization and its Discontents" and from theories of narcissistic injury.
What the various theories do however is teach these students to externalize the narcissistic injuries in specific ways.
All forms of propaganda do this. For example if you look at WW1 & WW2 propaganda the purpose of it is to have a mass projection onto an enemy and to project the individual body onto the concept of the nation. So an invasion is felt to be a personal attack.
The other thing that these theories do is eradicate self reflection and interiority.
Once again, the question would be how to return to this cultural attitude?
I would argue that one of the main culprits is a culture that actually caters to adolescent thinking and reinforces it.
To reverse the trend in my opinion requires adults who have done some sort of interior psychological work to be more influential than the adolescent mindset.
It is in psychology, in perennial philosophy, in certain religious scholars like Paul Tillich etc. but all of these things have far less influence than ever.
It would be an equal mistake to believe it is in all advocates of these theories either but I believe these theories hit closer to the mark and in the very least says "real wisdom will not arrive until after 35" (more or less).
5:19 What is this, 1999? What's up with that video quality? :D
It's individuals that have ideas. And it wasn't ideas that ate the cake and cursed around very young children. Bad people should be called out, along with bad ideas.
"Epitefs" = Epithets
I think I got it now. No promises
Ben, you are completely balanced and a voice of reason. You should be very proud of what you are doing for the community... Now let's play some beer pong.
Wait! they ate the CAKE?! aren't they all gluten intolerant?!
wow there are like 8 of them screaming, why is this an issue, they should be arrested every time and that would end this crap.. gez why do they take this crap?
George calls it “deescalation”. He should have nipped it in the bud.
how ironic.. lol
Everyone has some sense of narcissism. You have to in order to survive in the world. The problem is when it becomes so over the top that it becomes Narcissistic personality disorder. You exposing Evergreen and these adults with impulse control problems and with perhaps real narcissistic personality disorders is not the problem as obviously you already know.
I can`t even phatom that Evergreen after all this don`t seem to realize that there just might be something wrong with what they are actually teaching their students.