🔧Betaflight 4.5 Tuning Workflow using PIDtoolbox🔧
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
- Timeline:
0:00 intro
1:00 Why a simple steady hover is a great starting point
3:40 The dominant reason behind poor flight performance
5:23 Optimize PIDs while continually fine tuning FILTERs
7:14 Two basic filter types - LOWPASS vs NOTCH Filters
9:23 PIDF tuning steps
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!!! Please note !!! At time 10:38, Do not misinterpret my discussion there as suggesting that you should start tuning the Master multiplier first, before PD balance etc. That is NOT what I am saying. The basic PID tuning steps have not changed (and I’ve stated this in the current vid), and for more detail on this you should follow my previous videos. In this part of the video (10:38) I am just talking about how to set STARTING values (ie, the values of sliders for the FIRST of your series of tuning tests). Hope this is clear. Happy Tuning! -brian
The way you convey and present the information, makes me think you are a educator. Even the topics and subheadings are numbered, organized and very structured. I felt like I was sitting through a Uni lecture, well done!
i followed the older videos and got results i never had in 10 years before. thank you for that. i appreciate more videos with one step after another and how to control which values are in OK area and which is not. i also would watch these long videos from other pilots sending in their files with problems. there is no other channel in the world which does that, its a unique thing.
Thank you, greatly appreciate
These videos are pure gold. I REALLY appreciate the time you put into making this make sense. It's also great to see you back making videos again. With the release of 4.5 it would probably help a lot of folks if you could make a single step-by-step video of your process tuning a normal 5 inch racing or freestyle rig. I know there's a lot of information in your older videos but I can't find a video from the last few years where actually take a regular 5" rig and demonstrate from start-to-finish how you tune it from defaults. Love all your videos, and the PID toolbox tool is a genuine community blessing. Thanks for everything you do for us mortals.
Brian is back!
So much valuable information, thank you Brian
Brian thanks a lot for all your work! It's great to have you in our community!
Another great video, I learn something new every time.
Trying to tune 10" right now. Using pid tool box right now. Trying alot of different settings along with looking at blackbox
I need to try angle mode and just hovering.
This is definitively really instructive! As always, you rock, thanks for your awesome information sharing 🙏
Liked! More content like this is always welcome.
Nice! Thank you Brian!
Thank you so much for your work! After 3 years of learning how to tune, tuning without BB, then with BBE, then with PTB, I started to feel the tune and then verify my feelings in your software.
First I thought - naaaah, I will tune it my way using PTB, even tuning FF + P /D balance via Step Response tool, but now - I started to understand why you are tuning the way you do.
Great stuff, even for someone like me I just wanted a refresher and this does the trick! :)
Well stated sir. Thanks
Thank you for sharing. subbed!
verry well presented.
Thanks. You are the best!
Good stuff brother. Subscribed 👏🤙
Thank you!
I may need a session Brian! my friend has great things to say!! building another heavy lift soon
Thank's!
YES PLEASE!!! 🙂
Thank you, for the update on BF 4.5! Tuning the filters along with PID makes so much sense to me. Do you check the filtering after each section of the PID tuning process or do you revisit those just in general?
After each test
What do you mean by take into account rotational inertia when designing a frame. Position of motors, like X or stretched? Or weight distribution of where parts are installed?
Prop to prop distance for example (some xclass frames come to mind). Greater distance, more rot. Inertia. More rot. Inertia, more P and D are needed. More D means more noise into the pid controller
At 4:55 how do you have such clean wobbles? did you program them in edgetx?
Auto wobble controller programmed in radio. Link in description
@@PIDtoolbox I need to be a patreon Im geussing?
hi. must feedforward_transition param be 0 or 100 on bf45 when using pidtoolbox for tuning? Is it matter for angle mod?
Doesn’t matter in angle mode for BF45
Why in angle mode? I never fly angle mode? Is it just sugeested for safety or it does it gice better data?
Safer and cleaner more reliable data, and able to be done in a confined space. It’s just for tuning and it’s not tuning angle mode. It’s tuning the acro PIDs but in a convenient way
@@PIDtoolbox so switch to angle for better data or just safety? I've never had issues hovering around in acro as far as control is concerned. But I deff want best data as possible. Kinda a setpoint gyro and latency snob when it comes to tuning. Always trying to push it to absolute limits of the crafts.
@@JLfpv i get cool responsible data when switched to low rate and angle mod for tuning. it helps me for best tuning in my small room without crashes
there are none other than rpm filter weight not one 🤔
nothing that I see that changes the pid tuning process in any significant way. any pidf from 4.4 will work the same on 4.5
Ya PIDs and filters come over from 4.4 no issue, the filters work a bit better in 4.5 but there is no changes to the way they workz and the rpm weight is only really for the advanced tuner
Thank You