Katie Nolan has issues with WNBA players not being paid enough | Always Late with Katie Nolan | ESPN
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- On the latest episode of Always Late with Katie Nolan on ESPN+, Katie says she understands why WNBA players aren’t being paid Steph Curry money, but defends that they deserve a higher percentage of the league’s revenue.
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Well look at it this way. ESPN has 4.2 million subscribers on RUclips. Yet only 120,000 have actually clicked on this video. And most of us came because Basketball Examined absolutely destroyed this report using facts.
And the Basketball Examined video got a lot more views than this video despite having less subscribers
@Moist Gnome Oh boys
Ikr
Yup I came here from that video
Lol right
Katie ignoring the fact that the wnba has never been profitable
@Esoteric 123 those empty stadiums.
also ignoring the fact that the NBA teams losing money are only losing money for tax reasons. Their taxable income is close to or even below 0...
Not a single year in its 23 years
Also ignoring that WNBA teams get loans from the NBA...
Also ignoring that she doesn’t even attend the games unless her boss tells her to
You don’t see male pornstar complaining about the wage gaps and equality.
No they are too busy fucking
@@ditocerto they have some serious work ethic.
I'm sure Ron Jeremy did fine financially.
Lol
Honestly, the job is the pay
is that a fake audience track playing lol
Haha yeah, and her joke, "brunch isn't free Kendall, and I know you didn't just have a water." was BAD. Actually made me cringe a little. Yet another thing women aren't good at doing -- being funny.
Sounds like a 90s soundtrack audience laugh Loll
"Last Week Tonight" is either proud or disappointed in the inspiration or theft of their jokes.
It's so fake
Duh, women aren’t funny
Tyler Johnson would average 60ppg, 20apg and 30 rpg in the WNBA
0 apg^^ my bad guys
He would average like 6 assist and 90 points because he would have no one to pass to
logan perkins 😂
logan perkins Fuck💀
Maybe you would average around 30ppg. (I'm not being sarcastic).
@@loganperkins8459 😂😂😂
Has anyone ever seen Katie Nolan at a WNBA game??
Jesse Warshak you have to see a WNBA game to answer that question... so no one has lol
I've never seen a wnba game so I wouldnt know
@@larrydinklepie9147 🤣💀
Katie have you ever been to a WNBA game?
If she did, she never posted any pic on social media like she usually do when she does go to a game, she is a fraud.
Obviously she hasn't. Because no one has. Why do you think they are losing money?
and the tickets are FREE, lolololololololololololololololololololol
She probably would go if they paid her.
Retired WNBA stars don’t even watch it on tv why would anyone go 😂
NBA is a multi billion dollar industry.
WNBA isn’t even close.
If you want equality you’ll have to match the NBA quality of entertainment
Why don’t people understand this.
Simple
Zoumiazga you didn’t watch the video did you?
Because most people don´t know shit about basic economics.
Corey Ortiz Dude why don’t you go clean your brain out first?
I agree with you. People always bring sexism into this conversation but that’s nonsense. The quality of basketball WNBA players play doesn’t even scratch the surface of that of the NBA.
I knew who Tyler Johnson was before I knew the WNBA was a thing
He would 21-0 every person in the WNBA
I was gonna comment that
What’s the WNBA ?
LOL they disrespecting Tyler like he wouldn't beat everyone in the wnba 1on1
1-on-1?? I wouldn't be surprised if he out worked an entire starting 5
you know that quote was fake right? someone made it to stir up drama on social media. they never disrespected him and the fact that WNBA players couldn’t defeat NBA players is irrelevant to the point that they should be paid a higher percentage of league revenue.
"Higher percentage of league revenue." They're losing money. The WNBA gets 12M/year from the NBA to help subsidize it.
BonusContent This is what I was thinking. Half the teams lose money and you don’t want to be paid a negative percent so stfu about your pay. How about you go try to play in he nba. No rule says you can’t. The problem is your not good enough!! My god I said it they arnt good at basketball!! All these news outlets need to stop worrying about what the media will say about them if they speak the truth.
@@princssnasty 47% player revenue sharing of ZERO profit is zero money for the players. They are getting much more money than they deserve.
I'd take Tyler Johnson and 4 middle school males, over the all WNBA first team....
That wouldnt be fair, Tyler Johson would get an easy layup every possesion.
The 4 middle schoolers can just sit on the bench and watch tyler destroy them 1v5 lmao
Naw, you exaggerating. Id wanna see the championship winning WNBA team vs the lowest ranked EConference NBA team. Thatd be a close game
@@eanoworro1028 The cavs would have a harder time against bottom ranked college teams than wnba champs. Any athletic male team would destroy them. The wnba wont be able to keep up thats why even Strong high school teams can probably beat them.
There was a actually an exhibition game where the US women's NATIONAL soccer team(which were the best in the world) lost vs a bunch of under 15 teenagers. Thats how dominant males are in sports compared to females.
@@akkrambederi3295 Ima look that up then..
Tyler Johnson would average 70pts and 30rbs a game😂
Tyler Perry would.
20 blocks 10 steals and 0 assists
Equal percentage doesn't work without accurate context. If our team made $10 and the players got 50%, that would leave $5 to pay for all the teams expenses. Clearly, that would not be enough. But if the Team $10,000,000, then minus 50% would leave $5,000,000 for team expenses. That would be more than enough. Equal percentage only works when the amount of income is high. The same with taxes. would you rather have %25 of my income or %10 of Trump's income?
c20995 You’d have to understand basic economics to be able to understand this point. That’s asking too much from this host. She’s clearly more interested in being smug and sarcastic than being fiscally accurate.
@@vaporz109 she is just reading a script. She is hot and she can read, that's every work skill she has.
@@laurocoman but if I was reading something in front of millions of people I'd like to know if it's accurate.
Depends on whether or not you are Jeff Bezos........ are you Jeff Bezos?
@@vaporz109 yup basic economics is a must. It all comes down to fixed overhead costs.
It'd be great if someone managed to make a rebuttal of this video, lol!!
Basketball Examined you’re a goat
Yep and you just destroyed her.
If only such a savage existed
ruclips.net/video/EpzidpgZzq8/видео.html
Backed up by FACTS
She really compared the NBA in the 60s to the WNBA today. Cmon bro
Lol bruh, why does she have a laugh track... i know theres no live audience there laughing
Damn
I know its CRINGE.
There is
Just like wnba, no audience..
What is 50% of negative 10m
-$5 million. The players should have to pay the league to play in it.
@@mirzaahmed6589 facts. they can't stand on their own feet. the investment in reality is to show.. well, reality. lol
Don't let this video distract you from the fact that Katie Nolan is unjustifiably getting paid more than I am getting paid. Where's the justice in that?
This is false logic. True, asking to make the same money is insane because revenues are not the same. But, asking to make the same percentage means nothing either. You have to specify "same percentage" of... what. If you mean same percentage of profits (i.e. revenue - costs), then yeah, I'm with you. But if you just mean same percentage of total revenue, without accounting for costs, then you make absolutely zero sense, unless costs to revenue ratio is the exact same (which it isn't).
Let me give an example that isn't far from reality:
Let's say the NBA annual income and expenses, for the whole league, are as follows:
-Revenue: $6000M (or $6G)
-Costs (every possible expense except player salary): $3000M (or $3G)
-Player salary: $3000M (or $3G)
-Percentage of Revenue that goes to Player salary: 50%
-There are 30 NBA teams, and each has up to 15 players on its roster, so there are up to 450 players in the league at any given moment. This leaves every team with $100M to spend on their roster. If these numbers were exact, it would mean an average salary of $6.7M per player.
Now let's say the WNBA numbers looked like this (which is pretty close actually):
-Revenue: $28M
-Costs (i.e. every possible expense except player salary): $21M
-Player salary: $7M
-Percentage of Revenue that goes to Player salary: 25%
-There are 12 WNBA teams, and each has up to 12 players on its roster, so there are up to 144 players in the league at any given moment. This leaves every team with roughly $583K to spend on their roster. If these numbers were exact, it would mean an average salary of roughly $49K per player.
Now, you could cry about WNBA players making "only" 25% of league revenue VS NBA players making 50% of league revenue. But that's only because the NBA is much, much more profitable. In other words, the little the WNBA makes as a league is barely enough to cover the costs of doing business (i.e. arena rent, equipment, staff, security, travel expenses, electricity, etc.), so they're left with almost nothing to pay their players. Heck, if the WNBA wasn't subsidized by the NBA, the revenue would be even lower, actually so much lower that that there would not even be anything left to pay the players, and the owners would have to pay the roster out of their own pockets, which would mean that nobody would ever want to own a WNBA team.
The solution is either to lower costs or to increase revenue. Lowering costs would be a big challenge since they are already cutting so much (teams don't even charter their flights; they fly coach. For Christ sake! even top NCAA Woman Basketball Teams fly private). And many WNBA teams chose to fly to their out of state away games on gameday just to avoid paying for a hotel night. So increasing revenue is the only viable solution. And the key to achieve that is to make the sport much more entertaining. Many options here: lowering the rim to allow for real dunks and athletic plays, shortening the 3-pt line distance, making players wear sexy tight team uniforms to attrack male audience which is almost absent from the fanbase.
They are a bunch of unfeminine lesbians that no men want to watch no matter how they are dressed. That league is doomed
@@SuperMerlot Womens leagues will never be doomed because no matter how unprofitable they are, the mens leagues will always have to keep them afloat. You think it's bad now, imagine the uproar if the NBA were to distance itself from the WNBA and allow it to fend for itself. It would collapse within a year and blame the NBA.
Is there any difference in taxes or tax rebates between wnba and nba players? Just asking to get my facts clear
That last point about uniforms... I don't think it would make much of a difference since the largest audience for the WNBA are already male adults.
People dont know the difference between total revenue and profit.
Katie Nolan doesn't understand supply and demand.
You don't understand pies
Shhhhhh. Its clearly discrimination by all the guys in the world.
I never comment on RUclips, but the pie rebuttal was just tremendous.
Pies? They're losing money, does that mean they pay the league to play?
You don’t seem to understand how to comprehend another person’s argument...
This is so unfunny even the laugh track almost didn’t laugh
You absolutely right elmo
Katie you should be fired for lying on camera
Unfortunately ESPN is run by sjws
Who's Katie ?lol
Maybe they should have taken Finance/Economics course before getting into the WNBA :/
You are wrong. It's impossible for feminists to logically learn anything useful. So jokes on you sir~
Maybe they should have taken a basic college math course, or some third grade arithmetic. Maybe too much to ask
You guys are talking about college level stuff this is fucking High school shit noone cares about you WNBA
She did not just compare the nba’a 1968 season vs the WNBA’s 2019 season
No, they can't pay the same percentage, its simply not feasible. Why? The facilities cost the same, the cost of merchandise costs the same, everything costs the same. Lets just say, the NBA generates $600 in revenue and costs = $100. Of course the Owners can split 50/50 and make a profit. Now lets be generous and say the WNBA generates $150 but the costs are still $100. They owners obviously can't split the $150 50/50 because the league would make a loss. Trust me, if it was feasible, they'd raise the salaries, but it just ISN'T
No, the league will never pay more just because it's feasible. And the women need to realize complaining that it's not fair isn't going to get them anywhere either. NBA players make more than WNBA players (as a percentage), for the same reason they make more NFL players, for the same reason US men's soccer players make more than their much better female counterparts. The reason: They have a better union. They negotiate harder. They are willing to strike and stand together through a lockout. The women need to learn they will make more not when they earn it, but when they demand it.
@@soularone1980 And if they owners decide "You know what, you women are more trouble than your worth in a dying league anyway. How bout we negotiate a bigger cut.... At the end of the season because we aren't going to resign any of your contracts. Go play in china for all we care." At this point the WNBA is a showcase league so these players can play elsewhere.
they have no leverage.
Roberto Monzon the difference is that NBA players can negotiate because they’re making big money and there’s a huge demand for the sport. If WNBA players went the “pay us more or else” route the owners would probably just be like “fuck it we don’t need them anyways” because they’re not making enough money to be demanding more.
Dude they take a 10 million dollar loss per year with the revenue divided the way it already is lol
People don’t understand the concept of fixed costs. The teams have to pay for things like jerseys, arenas, etc and those costs would be the same for men and women. However since the NBA brings in more money, those fixed costs would take up a smaller percent of total league revenue and they can give their players a higher percentage. The WNBA makes less money so those costs would make up a higher percentage of their revenue, therefore they would have to give their players a lower percentage.
The WNBA made 16M in year and NBA made 7.2B in one year so how are they supposed to pay 50 percent
Exactly and wnba players delusional as fk if the wnba actually gave them half then they should just close the sht
Thats without accounting for variable co
@@adriabulilaok7708 the wnba has never made a cent
You mean the WNBA *loses* $10,000,000 for their bosses, every single year that it's been in existence
How can someone have so little dignity and do so little research, yet be confident enough to act like they know everything. I need this skill...
I'd rather watch high school ball, more skills on display..
I will say that asking for similar% of basketball related income is not that crazy
Imagine hemorrhaging +10,000,000 and asking for a raise LOL
LMFAO
Half of what she said was without text.
The WNBA losses money each year...
In 2016 there where 9 teams that lost money but the other 21 teams made up big for that loss with half a billion
Actually this season the only team that lost money was the Cavs and all 30 teams are worth over 1 billions dollars
These fake laughs are too cringe
Athan Prakas I’ll get you banned from RUclips
Athan Prakas u don’t have to watch 🤷🏾♂️
Sitcoms, too?
@@FloridaCam7 it's bad I would stop watching it I was you
The creepy laughs and awkward pause between set up line and joke , pause , creepy laugh. ......
I'd be surprised if this is on in January, with these low views it will be another show Katie couldn't keep alive.
Yeah Katie got wrecked by Basketball Examined
A little note:
You can’t pay the WNBA the same if they don’t make close to the same money the NBA does.
Another note they loose around 10-12 million dollars a year
22% of a pie that doesn't make a profit and has to be funded by the NBA.
Why is ESPN airing this
I dont know the laugh track is awful and she pretends like there's a ton of people there but theres no one
Because feminism
Because ESPN has been shit for years now.
Woke espn dying fox sports all the way
Because espn sucks
The average WNBA player makes roughly $130,000 a year, and rookie or first-time contracts have a minimum of $57,000 a year. Both Skylar Diggins-Smith and Brittney Griner have $221,000 contracts. In terms of raw numbers, the WNBA generates roughly $60 million in revenue every season. That may sound like a lot, but when matched up against the $70 million the league costs to run, it actually loses roughly $10 million with each passing year. If u look at the numbers you realise they are actually overpaid.
If they were paid a higher percentage the league would fold ...this is basic economics
Pulling economics stats out of your ass I see
Sean Gilbertson half of WNBA teams don’t turn a profit and the league is not very profitable with 80% of the revenue share. If they increased player revenue percentage to 50% from 20% the league would fold.
Sean Gilbertson the WNBA doesn’t generate near enough revenue to be able to increase the percentage given out to players I don’t see you refuting any of what I have said instead you stick to insults pipe down kid
The wnba players should pay an equal amount of net loss too if they want an equal amount of share.
Even with the NBA subsidies the WNBA still loses money every year. The only reason the women can get paid at all is because of the revenue shares smh
3:46
"We don't really know how much money they have or where it's coming from."
Negative profit.
The NBA.
After watching the full interview of Adam Silver, he actually made sense. He talked about how the people who attend WNBA games are largely older men and not young women or girls. He has other very good pointers and it felt like he wasn't against women getting equal pay, he just wants the market to get better.
no one watches the wnba id rather have $5 than my local team win
Well, from my understanding the main complaint is that in the wnba, players take away only 25% of the revenue while the rest goes to the owners. In the nba, players get 50% of the revenue.
@@faisalsalam4161 well that would be fixed if they made more money. The owners take 75 percent because they know they aren't even making a much of a profit from the WNBA
B.C. Diesel same
Since your comment is factually incorrect....
Faisal Salam okay but when the WNBA isn’t making as much money of the NBA, is hard to take HALF OF THE FUCKING RENEVUE.
Tyler Johnson would dunk on Brittney Griner 😂😂😂
Maurkeese McGhee
All day everyday
Maurkeese McGhee honestly, Brittney might slap his shit
@@kevinhooks1 no he/she wouldnt Britney griner can't even dunk
SUNNYFROMTHED Actually, Griner _can_ dunk. But just barely.
And, yes, Tyler would best Griner. Dude's scrappier than he looks.
He would score 50 on her if they played 1v1
Katie Nolan is the Samantha Bee of ESPN.
It's not about women vs guys, it's about economics vs wish list.
She should see Bill Burr's rant about the WNBA. I'd love to hear Katie's reaction.
Basketball Examined wrecked her, poor thing.
Lmaooo
She deserved it after spewing all those lies to us. LOL
At least Tyler Johnson knows how to dunk
C D They really disrespected the fuck out of this guy bc they're salty lmaaaooo
dude averaged like 13 4 and 3 in 2017 he aint even a scrub
As a Heat fan, I felt offended by Griner's statement. LMAO 😂
C D 😂😂😅😅
It's a fake statement from a woman who actually dunks. Nice try though C D, who probably can't dunk.
And the pie thing at the end is she saying the WNBA should take profits from the nba too ? Oh yea cuz equality and “ the WNBA is a league of its OWN”
WNBA players make avg 70k a year. Thats more than enough for women i couldve beat at basketball in highschool.
They should be paying to play in the WNBA. The league is losing money.
P im only 22 if i played them now i could 1 v 2 all i have to do is deny layups and its over
@@tjayk9127 don't even have to, they'd miss wide open😂
Katie Nolan doesn’t even care enough about the WNBA to do her own research😂😂
1) Has Katie Nolan ever paid for a ticket for a WNBA game? She always posts photos of herself at NFL, MLB, NBA games etc, but I don't remember seeing any photos of her at a WNBA one.
2) Getting paid an equal % of their league's revenue as the NBA players (or given just getting paid a significantly greater % than they currently are) is not remotely feasible due to costs and overheads, that's just basic economics. If that happened, there would be nowhere near enough money to cover expenses, pay other people behind the scenes etc, and the league would definitely fold quickly unless the NBA continued to prop it up but with larger handouts.
Given that the entire league loses money (usually 10 million or more) every year (that's not comparable to certain NBA teams recording losses), we can safely say WNBA players are actually overpaid compared to their market worth.
One thing Katie mentioned about the NBA's 22nd season, that was in 1968. TVs were common but still not nearly as prevalent as today. Not as many people were fans of the sport
OpTicFanBoy24 I wanted to tell her the same thing : you can’t compare tv in 1960-1980s to tv in 2018. That’s bias reporting and plain stupid . She knows better but wants to get on the guy for his misrepresentation of the truth 🤔🤔🤔
She went for the typical false equivalency argument.
She had no real point, other than she's a dumb fake feminist who couldn't wait to make her nonsensical argument as an attempt to bash men.
OK but did you not hear the next thirty seconds about the MLS and its struggles? if you don't like the NBA comparison cause of TV that's fair, but MLS is a good comparison.
Not to mention the fact that the WNBA gets free advertising and superstar NBA players promoting their product. She also fails to mention all the free tickets given away to get those attendance numbers!
ruclips.net/video/eUrv4gcZbnc/видео.html I spoke about that on my video 😂
ESPN plz drop this segment this is cringeworthy 🤦🏾♂️
I'd like to see the WNBA do this....seriously. They give these players more money to cut further into their already negative revenue and the league folds faster.
She’s trying so hard to be John Oliver. Pathetic. If one of my laughs was used on the laugh tracks for this I’d sue.
John Oliver is funny! Lol yeah sure!
The WNBA profited 60 million dollars from 2017 season
The NBA profited 7.4 billion from 2017 season.
$60 million????.....lol where's the link for that, show us
WNBA made 60 million but it wasn’t profit
that $60 million figure is either total revenue or just completely fabricated out of thin air because the league is running a deficit not at a profit.
2:55 They're talking PERCENTAGES not ABSOLUTE VALUES.
Yall.niggas are DUUUUUMB
most of that are subsidies given by the nba.
Basketball is 127 years old the WNBA is 23 years old and let’s ask what bill russels percentage was when he was playing in his day
So athletes in the WNBA *don't* play basketball ???🤔🤔
@@azureavocado5195 WNBA hasn't been turning a profit since it's genesis and why watch WNBA when NBA is wayyy more entertaining?
Ace Ocean the nba was founded in 1946. So while you say basketball is “127” years old and compared it to a league... a more accurate comparison is the nba which is 72
Britt Johnson 😍
Mike Hegarty If anyone has the disability here it’s you buddy. He said basketball as a sport is 127 years old, but the NBA was founded in the 40s, making it roughly 70-80 years old. Maybe read before you type, you’ll sound smarter.
What Katie fails to mention is that in 1970 the average NBA salary was $35,000 or adjusted for inflation, $255,437.02. Their salaries didn’t start getting crazy until much later when the league was more profitable.
I have issues with her being paid over a million a year.
I wish I was getting paid 7 figures to talk off a script and put makeup on.
It's cuz you shallow men like watching pretty women talk about sports. It's just like the NBA vs WNBA, those who bring in more money, get more money.
Yes there are other sportscasters at lesser known stations that deserve the same percentage as Katie
Y’all did Tyler Johnson dirty 😂😂 he pretty good
Who tha fook is that guy?
@@Slim_Ch4rles he plays for the Heat
Hes decent but if he makes 20 mill I need that agent
He can't hear them for the money.
Mjstirrup He’s good at hockey for the lightning
btw the WNBA has lost an average of $10 million every year since it was founded.
Honda doesn’t complain that their top model doesn’t sell for the same price as a Bentley... if they want better pay: they should make a better product 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
"They should make a better product"
Their playoffs were more exciting than the men's this year.
Last few years, actually.
@@PlyrMava. sure it was bud... the ratings and $$$ says otherwise lmao.
Danny P I went to 3 LV Aces games this year. So....
ThePlyrMava I hope you are a troll my guy
Mix social justice activism and a failed attempt at "comedy" and inject them into sports unnecessarily with counterfactual and deceptive positions. I'm sure this show is going to last. It's just what everyone wants to spend their time watching on a sports network rather than actual news or footage of sports. These ESPN producers are geniuses putting together quality programming like this.
like their SJW sportscenter at 6 they tried, which was supposed to be woke and urban with the horrible propagandist jemele hill lmao... an utter failure of course, as everyone predicted the show was quickly cancelled after night time infomercials got more views
@@levantonovich513 The most irritating thing about this type of BS is that I'd be more than willing to listen to a real story if someone or some group was ACTUALLY being treated unjustly. Almost everyone wants our fellow citizens to be treated fairly. But no one is interested in faux social justice propaganda based on phony data and misleading premises on a sports network or really anywhere else.
She had to start the segment telling you who won the WNBA championship, because most people watching didn't know the WNBA still existed, let alone had a championship game.
lie, lie, lie, lie, lie and woop what do you know, another lie...The fact this woman has a job proves inequality is a complete myth.
@@thee_morpheus haha well to be fair I too would #metoo the shit out of her.
@@truecrimejungle yeah she absolutely only has the job because she's attractive
The difference here is that NBA teams are worth billions of dollars so when small markets marginally lose money annually they are still massively profiting in the long run as all the teams in the league's value continues to sky rocket making it very profitable long term to continue to operate in the red, if your operating in the red and your organisational value is not attaining massive growth like in the WNBA then it's completely different, but good luck to them 22% should be improved.
So DAMN true! The wnba is so in the red the NBA gives them some of the profits and they still can't turn a profit. It's ridiculous that these ladies are so delusional to think that simple if they are marketed they will get viewers. The product on the court is so bad that I couldn't watch it if it were free.
Yep. No one is arguing that the players should get more split of the pie, but people seem to miss the point that the pie isnt getting any bigger.
The league is barely surviving, and thats with NBA subsidies, even if they want to, they can't afford to give more, otherwise they will fold.
Stop mansplaining and making sense!
Yeah you can let them split a 12 million a year loss sounds good... Morons
The NBA will gladly disclose WNBA $ numbers. The WNBA doesn't want those numbers out in the public. Why? Because they are embarrassing and can't, never have, never will turn a profit. If the WNBA gets the same revenue % as NBA players it will just kill the league sooner. I support women's sports but I don't see why the WNBA would think a failing business that can't sell out a small arena should pay its talent more. This entire story is sad. I think the NBA should go completely hands off and let them run themselves into the ground.
Who wants to bet 💰 that the majority of people complaining about how WNBA players deserve more money have never been to a WNBA game 😑 Gotta admit though that the WNBA players asking for the same percentages of shared revenue for their league like their male counterparts actually makes sence. Not asking for N.B.A.-like cash just more of the money that they help the WNBA create. If only this host brought that up in the beginning of the video instead of halfway through 😐. Make your point! Don't complain then explain. Explain first and maybe people would be more open to listening.
How about they make a layup first and not brick on every other shot?
No it doesn't make sense. Let's say operating costs of WNBA is $10, and they make $15 and WNBA players want 40% of revenue WNBA would be then down to only $9 and cannot operate the league. However, lets say NBA costs $20 to operate and make $80 in revenue and NBA players get 40% of revenue, that's still leaves $48 for NBA to operate. WNBA players cannot get the same share because they don't make enough money. They should be thankful WNBA exists.
@@enomooshiki3634 Didnt take into account the operation costs. Let them do it then. Destroy their own league with well meaning intentions and then we get to see who they'll shift the blame to. Meh
The WNBA star players add little to nothing to the league's value. The value of the NBA lies in the Lebrons and Steph Currys. The value of the WNBA lies it's brand as a female counterpart to the NBA. So if they're not as valuable to the league, they shouldn't see the same percentage of the revenue.
No it makes zero sense. THEY ARE LOSING MONEY, how can u justify giving them a higher percent of revenue when they are profit negative?
It's like a club, u make money for bringing people in. If no one shows up, there's less money and costs for broadcasts stay the same. Katie clearly doesn't understand math and finances or entertainment costs
Nathan Hexem : apparently none of them understand
@@michaellewis3978 the only thing I agree with is the cap. But otherwise these guys are delusional hyped up on equality rhetoric
She lost me when she said ‘ WNBA has a bright future and lots of promise’
WNBA is not entertaining so just stop.espn comedy??wtf😂
i rather watch the Browns
Andre blatche would beat every WNBA player
Ace Ocean lmao but true
This was funnier than every joke in this video
The worst thing about this video is that 3,000 people have liked it
1:06 I wanna see a 1v1 Tyler vs Brittney, Tyler 21-0 real quick.
Tyler Johnson would be MULTIPLE time MVP in the WNBA!!!
He would be mvp every year
Mvp finals mvp dpoty literally everything 15x wnba champion 15x all star 40 Ppg 15 Rpg 7 Bpg
noors yea you are spot on, multiple mvp is putting it very lightly. He could honestly drop 100
He'd be an MVP at the age of 50
Lol, a fucking college kid would be MVP in the WNBA
Most women prefer watching/attending men’s games over women’s games. Quit blaming men for your issues. You’re just reinforcing stereotypes.
Tell the women to play 12 minutes, 5 minutes ot, 82 games, and 4-28 games in the playoffs. And then make sure you have more than 5 million followers in any of their social media accounts. Also, dont let the NBA spoonfeed you. Then we might be able to talk.
You Mysogynists!!!! -_- ........LOL
Lol
To be fair, the WNBA athletes didn't determine the schedule or WNBA rules. If anything, some throughout WNBA history have been hoping to play the same minutes as a guy. But only if they can get better financial incentive.
Sadly, nothing really aids their request. The supply-and-demand just isn't there for the WNBA--even among female audiences, who are the majority of primetime television ratings.
@@SuperGamer87 I suppose that is fair
Wow, Basketball Examined absolutely destroyed this report with facts.
Katie tries to give the WNBA some positive press but instead shows why some women don't get paid as much in business......WNBA should be pay to play. This has been a gift from the NBA and the WNBA is still ungrateful. They want more, more, more with no actual entertainment value. There are better female high school players, too. They just pick a better paying career.
I actually like the wnba I've been a fan of the university of Connecticut's lady huskies for many years and love seeing great players transition into the pros. Having said Katie Nolan is just outright lying ESPN needs to do a little fact checking.
There's only enough decent-good players to fill out a small handful of teams at the college level. That's why you saw UCONN and Tennessee win practically every year. There's more talent in men's so while there's still teams that can be stacked with it, that talent is spread out between more teams, thus heightening the competition.
I’m so tired of this. Less talent, less entertaining, smaller crowds. They will never be what the NBA is, so it’s players should never be payed the as if it is.
Watch the video and don't assume you know what it's about with seeing it. Dumbass
Cameron Meade watch the video first bud...
Less talent? Okay my guy
Theres nothing in the video to discount his point.
Men's High School basketball has more talent. The NCAA makes more money in 1 year than WNBA has made in its entire lifetime.
A middle schooler could have made a more in-depth argument than her... It isn't about percentages, if you can't understand that businesses run on fixed costs and variable costs, you probably aren't the best person for this job.
It's sad that she had to go all the way back to the late 1960s to compare NBA attendance to WNBA attendance now.
Kyal Rainey all she did was go back to when the NBA was in its 22nd season because she was comparing it to the WNBA’s 22nd season which was last year.
When you have an agenda, you tend to be blind to the most obvious things.
@@BklynzTina if you want to compare you must compare all the details. In 1968 the NBA had 12 teams. Every year after that they consistently grew until they reached 30 teams in 2004. They were able to achieve this growth despite competition from the ABA which had stars such as dr. J, Moses Malone, Brent Barry, and George Gervin to name a few. So you see the NBA was able to achieve growth despite a direct competitor. Conversely, the WNBA's direct competition, the abl folded in 1999. The WNBA have not enjoyed the same amount of growth that the NBA enjoyed once the ABA folded. But in we fact have seen many teams fold since the elimination of their direct competition.
@@kyalrainey2421 Rick Barry
Tyler Johnson should buy a wig: say he is trans: become the WNBA league MVP....
Nah because then he would have to take a pay cut. He would only be making like 115k a year whipping “professional” lady’s” instead of millions being a solid role player in the most competitive basketball league on the planet that actually makes enough money to pay their players. Which is a concept some people still don’t get
Quite funny how Katie Nolan uploads to her social media photos of her on NBA games, MLB games, NFL games but not in any WNBA games and yet she complains that they don't receive as much money or attention as the NBA
isnt the wnba wtill funded by the nba because they cant exist on theirselves? so how arre players expecting a higher percentage?
Non of these jokes are funny they are corny
What's dumb is she survives on her looks. Her opinion is complete garbage and she's not funny either.
Rain I’ll get you banned from RUclips
@@VictorFernandezBigdestroyer wtf
I didn't even know it was a joke haha
laugh tracks are how you know the orwellian authoritarian nightmare is here
WNBA should dissociate themselves from the NBA. The NBA should stop giving that $12 Millions Allowance to the WNBA of course. And after this the WNBA should give the WNBA players that 50% of the revenue. We'll see if they can survive a season.
They still dont get it
What do you mean more money should be invested into the WNBA, that's bad stock ain't nobody got time for that.
My gf who happened to me a feminist suggested watching 2016 WNBA finals on RUclips and I was totally in for it. Until she said this is so boring. The products just aren’t the same. The only argument that’s reasonable is the fact that some NBA teams are also losing money. All the other arguments are just non sense 😂😂.
Only 1 team lost money in 2018, and that was despite giving up the ~50% in basketball related revenue to the players. All the WNBA teams lose and thats despite giving up less than half that percentage of basketball related revenue to the players. So not even that argument is logical.
Hence proved; If Katie Nolan is piloting an airplane; passenger will jump out without a parachute at 30,000 ft.
In the 1950s and 1960s the NBA barely registered on the sports map. Since then it has become a global billion dollar industry. The WNBA has been around how long since 1997? No problem for them to earn equal pay, but the league cannot even earn solid profit margins and the NBA still subsidizes it's operations. I guess the NBA must redistribute their wealth.
The fumble is still better then this show
😂😂😂
Sadly true...
😂😂😂😂
They both suck
That’s so much disrespect
WNBA revenue: $60 million
NBA revenue: $8.76 BILLION
It would be inequality to pay WNBA more than what the industry earns.
There's a difference between EQUALITY (good) and EQUITY(bad)
Sorry WNBA.. I just don't find your product(bunch of layups and no dunks at all) to be appealing and therefore I won't consume it, it's called freedom of choice and it doesn't make me sexist or misogynist and it by no means says I'm trying to end your right to play basketball for a living, I just want to exercise my right of not watching it..
A lot of people(including women) feel like me, hence the pay inequality.
“The nba in its 22nd season drew in 7,000 people in attendance” yes this was in 1966 when the nba wasn’t a top 4 sport in the U.S and frankly didn’t hold that many people. If the WNBA can’t thrive right now when basketball is as universal as it’s ever been then it won’t ever
Btw Tyler Johnson is ass and would cook any WNBA player
Someone might want to tell Katie Nolan you can't expect a raise at a business that does not make a single profit and half the teams in the WNBA have not made a single profit and until the league profits stop it with these unrealistic expectations
If they had the WNBA Champion and the lowest rated NBA team’s C-String teams play annually, I think Katie would be reminded why her argument is a complete joke.
If I wanted to listen to a "Nolan" tell me a story, I'd just watch the Dark Knight trilogy again.
This is so untrue. They should truly give them a percentage of the profits. That way they could owe the league after every year
The NBA has invested heavily into the WNBA. There just isn’t any interest. The only 2 seasonal women sports I watch are tennis and mma.
And you can argue that at different times throughout the years, women dominated those two sports when it came to generating hype and dollars.
joey zapata because watching women in those sports is actually aesthetically pleasing. Nobody likes watching women play Basketball, Football, Soccer etc because it's boring. The women just aren't entertaining and will never generate the revenue they want.
Wow. I was trying to explain to someone how the entertainment quality gap between men and women in tennis and MMA is much, much less, if not non existent when compared to men and women's basketball.
I say this as someone that appreciates the WNBA, but it is hard to argue the NBA not is more entertaining.
Easy WNBA ia boring .NBA is not.WNBA is none but boring lay ups.
Legod is the best ever Some Legends gots no rings 💯 I’d rather watch Canadian football than this political correctness the NBA and ESPN have been trying to feed us. 😒
Lol the fact that this is edited and it still looks like this is gold
I actually watch the wnba it can be Interesting, at times, but they have horrible advertising. They don't have good commercials, empty stadiums, no highlights, nothing they do help their league. If anything it's the people running the organization ruining it, it's like store brand vs generic brand. Unless you can show me why I should watch then I'm not gonna watch lol.
Benn255 B You right about that , the players don't promote the league neither. It's just like the JBA , you have to slam the best moments in our face and make us want to tune in
Both suck (unless you’re a fan of a team like the Warriors, Celtics, Spurs, Rockets or Lakers), but the WNBA is the worse of the two.
Well if you have a problem with it, the solution is simple. Tell them to be more entertaining on the court.
Look at the like to dislike ratio
There's an easy solution for the WNBA... make the game sexier. Tighter, more revealing uniforms. That's why women's beach volleyball is popular.
Otherwise, the entertainment value just doesn't measure up. This likely would have been done already if the SJW feminist mentality hadn't taken over.
Yeah the guy above me it’s just talking about some weird shit
@@nahor88 lol
@@christianloggins haha