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I’m not from Seattle, but I wanna set the record straight: I’ve been wishing, hoping and praying for Sonics fans to get their team back for the longest time. Seattle absolutely deserves to have their NBA team again. BRING BACK THE SONICS! 🏀🏀🏀
I live outside Seattle. Seattle wants a team back. CPA is a beautiful arena. Seattle would be ready next season, and Vegas could play at T-Mobile while their arena is being built. It would be ridiculous for Seattle to wait 3 years to start just because Vegas wants to play in a different arena.
The only advantage of having both teams come in simultaneously is it makes for a cleaner expansion draft. Each expansion team drafts 15 players for a total of 30 players, one per existing team.
@@michaelallen8508 unless the Vegas expansion is owned by Bill Foley (VGK owner) there's no way in hell an NBA team is playing at T-Mobile for the long term. Temporarily, absolutely. There's at least two viable options for the NBA arena here in LV though.
@@vamoscruceros Expansion draft isn't a full roster build out actually. It is 14 players, with the 15th left open so the new teams can also enjoy one mid-first round pick in the normal draft as well.
Brodie, another quality video! As a Seattle fan i can’t wait for the Sonics to return. They should have never left. I can’t wait to see these expansion talks progress
So I believe it depends on which side of the Mississippi River both teams are. Minneapolis sits just west but almost directly on it, New Orleans sits directly on it but just east. Move Memphis east since they sit entirely east of the river.
The closest Western conference team to Minnesota is Oklahoma City (787 mi.). Milwaukee (337 mi.), Chicago (413 mi.), Indiana (591 mi.), Detroit (693 mi.), and Cleveland (757 mi.), all in the Eastern Conference and are all closer than any team in the Western conference. Both Memphis and New Orleans are closer to each other, Oklahoma City and the three Texas teams (farthest distance is Memphis to San Antonio, 725 mi.),all in the Western Conference, than Minnesota is to the closest Western conference team. Minnesota moving east makes way more sense geographically than either Memphis or New Orleans.
@@BrandanTheBroker travel considerations are more important than just who is further west/east. Minnesota moving to the central division makes the most sense
I think this is the worst kept secret in sports. I believe it's only a matter of when, not if, the NBA announces Seattle and Vegas as two new expansion franchises, whether it's now or a year from now. I think they just need to firm up commitments from the owner, the expansion fee, and where their permanent home will be along with any funding required to bring the facilities up to NBA standards.
Agreed. It's a question of 'when' and/or 'who' rather than 'if' here. The only questions for which answers have to be hashed out are (a) the size of the price tag, (b) how many years the new franchises take before they vest into the media rights deals, and (c) how the NBA realigns afterward. A few years ago Adam Silver hinted at eliminating divisional alignments altogether and going single table. I wouldn't expect that, but neither four 8-team divisions or eight 4-team divisions would surprise me.
@@mactheknife7049 Agree. NFL has 8 divisions of 4 teams each. NHL has 4 divisions of 8 teams each. Makes no sense to have 6 divisions going forward. Second grade math.
The 82 game schedule actually works well with 32 teams split into eight divisions of four. Play all teams in the opposite conference twice (16 x 2 = 32 games), play teams in your conference outside your division 3 times (12 x 3 = 36 games), and play your division rivals 4 times (4 x 3 = 12 games) for a total of 80 games. Have the two extra games come from the knockout rounds of the NBA Cup, or the games the teams that do not advance play in their place. The two NBA Cup finalists would play 83 games like they do now. As for alignment: Pacific - Seattle*, Portland, Golden State, Sacramento Desert - LA Clippers, LA Lakers, Las Vegas*, Phoenix Northwest - Denver, Utah Oklahoma City, Memphis Southwest - Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, New Orleans Central - Milwaukee, Chicago, Indiana, Minnesota Southeast - Atlanta, Charlotte, Miami, Orlando Atlantic - Brooklyn, New York, Boston, Toronto Northeast - Washington, Philadelphia, Cleveland, Detroit
@@vamoscruceros Name changes: - Desert to Pacific - Pacific to Northwest - Northwest to Mountain - Northeast to Central - Central to North Swaps: Indiana with Detroit Philadelphia with Toronto Then Toronto with Chicago
Im a 40+ year NBA fan and fan of the Knicks. What happened to Seattle was a tragedy. That team meant so much to that area, and they had just drafted a first ballot hall of famer in Kevin Durant a year prior. They were on the come up again and it was ripped away from them. The NBA is past due to make them whole again. That being said i dread losing one of our good players in an expansion draft, now that the Knicks are finally good again 🤣
Seattle is almost guaranteed to get a new team soon, and Vegas most likely get a team as well, though I could see Louisville being a contender as well given they have a NBA caliber arena ready to go.
Adam Silver has sead they are looking at Seattle,Las Vegas, Montreal & Mexico City It will be one in the West & one in the East from what he said it sounded to me like the most likely was Las Vegas & Mexico City.
Why would you need to move 2 teams to the East? If expansion adds two to the West (Seattle and LV), that's 17 west/15 east, you need to only move one to make it 16 and 16. I agree that either Memphis or NOLA would make sense to move.
Glad other noticed that only one team need to switch conferences. One of Memphis, NOLA, or Minnesota make sense each have arguments for & against. I think what the biggest factor will be the number of division and there size.
Since moving down to AZ I've been a suns fan, but NGL, would be neat to rock my sonics hat and have the team exist again. I actually had a great time in the old Key arena before the relocation, it was a charming place to watch a game.
we here in Seattle, especially all the Sonics fans have patiently waited nearly 20 years for the NBA to come back. With the help of the Oak View Group (who privately funded Climate Pledge Arena), Seattle Kraken ownership along w/ Todd Leiweki, and Seattle city officials from the past 6 years to get ready for when the NBA does come calling for a new team, it is time now to get this done.
@@deanfirnatine7814 Yes, Climate Pledge Arena. Amazon paid a crap ton of money for that stupid name, so we're stuck with it. Though a lot of us olds still call it Key Arena. And the really really olds still call it the Coliseum.
I appreciate that this is actually not pure speculation. Brodie uses deductive reasoning and clearly lays out facts to make an informed prediction, which I largely concur with. 32 is a magnetic number; it feels natural to get to 32 and difficult to go past 32. Unlike 30 which is not evenly divisible by 4, 32 is evenly divisible by 4, 8 and 16 which is a big advantage when grouping and subgrouping teams into conferences and divisions. I also agree that Seattle and Vegas are the two most likely expansion options by far, for the reasons Brodie explained. Adam Silver has talked about wanting two teams in Canada but I think Vancouver would be a much harder sell at this point in time. Seattle and Vegas are bigger markets with more investment potential and negligible travel changes to the NBAs current spread. I also have to wonder which of the 4 big leagues will be the first to enter the Austin, TX market 🤔
@TOTN17 I like both Vancouver and Montreal, but city size is the wrong metric here. Teams want to set up in Vegas because of the 40m annual visitors looking for something to spend their money on. The Raiders avg 62k fans in a 65k seat stadium, one of the smallest in the league, but the revenue is second-highest in the league. Owners are looking for cash flow. Maybe OKC could move to Vancouver or Montreal.
Say the expansion fee is $5B. According to the latest figures from Forbes, the Warriors are the most valuable team in the NBA at $8.8B, followed by the Knicks at $7.5B and the Lakers at $7.1B. Middle of the pack teams: #14 Wizards @ $4.1B, #15 Bucks @ $4B, #16 Cavs @ $3.95B. Bottom three are Timberwolves @ $3.1B, Pelicans @ $3.05B, Grizzlies @ $3B. So $5B would seem reasonable. Forbes projects that NBA team values will increase significantly in the years to come.
I think Minnesota makes much more sense to move to the East because thy are so much closer to at least 2 eastern teams than they are to every other western team
It's absolutely wild how Las Vegas is going to go from a zero-sport city to a four-sport city in the space of a decade once the A's and the new NBA team get there. Meanwhile, moving the Sonics from the 12th to the 46th-largest media market (according to Nielsen's rankings in 2023) was always a major headscratcher/Nick Young question-mark meme move. Vegas ranks 40th on that same list. The largest media market other than Seattle that doesn't have an NBA team is Tampa/St. Petersburg, Florida at 13th. Raleigh-Durham is 23rd, Pittsburgh 26th, and Columbus, Ohio is 32nd, all cities with NHL teams and arenas that don't have NBA teams.
It's a valid point and I wonder if the market can handle all the teams financially. Edit: and, it's not even the media market that is important in Seattle. It's the corporate money side. Lots of companies in the Seattle area. The Warriors are the most valuable team in the US because of all the companies in the Bay Area.
nothing wild about it. This new generation of sports managers doesn't worry about a gambling scandal like their predecessors did. The Media will make a scandal disappear like they have always done in recent years.
I think Canada should have a second shot. Either Montreal or Vancouver. I am a Raptors fan and love the whole "We The North" branding and being "Canada's team"... I would still love to see a second team done right.
My only thought is the quality of gameplay is at an all time low, theyd be idiots to dilute it further. The most athletic game play but the least attention to detail, fundamentals, or audience captivation whether that be in person or via tv/streaming
no one cares about quality of play anymore. NBA still makes PLENTY of money. They won't care until TV ratings are off by at least 20% for a whole season.
MLB needs to get their shit together on Vegas and tell the A’s no thank you. If the NBA gets a foothold here, there will not be support for a baseball team.
Considering what the NBA did to keep the NHL out of Seattle back in the 1990s, I hope the NHL returns the favor. But the real question about NBA expansion comes down to one factor: is NBA Co-Commissioner LeBron ok with it???
Only one team has to be realigned to the east... to make 16 per conference Most likely New Orleans It could even be Minnesota because of its close proximity to Milwaukee, Chicago and Detroit.
Seattle didn’t lose their team. It was stolen. That being said I believe the city struck a deal with the league that they HAVE give Seattle first crack at a team.
Only one team needs to switch conferences, not two, and I think it will be Minnesota. They may not be the furthest East but they are the most isolated franchise.
I'm have referred to myself as "RipCity Sonic" off & on through the years, because I am equally a fan of both teams, despite being from the Portland area. Never let anyone from Seattle or Portland tell you they see each other as rivals, or are more of a fan of one versus the other. Certainly not the lie of "I don't like [whichever one isn't their local team]". It's a longstanding lie. We love them equally, and to us deep down, BOTH are our teams, whether you are from Seattle or Portland, Washington or Oregon. When Sternzilla, Howard Schultz and Clay Bennett conspired to rip the team out of Seattle, we here in RipCity were just as, if not slightly more vocal with animosity than some Sonics fans were. We still make up a huge portion of the #BringBackOurSonics crew.
WRONG!! Only 1 team will move to the East. It cannot be 2 teams!! West has 15 teams Add 2 teams to the west and you have 17 teams. To balance out the east west you need 16 teams. If you take MEM and NO out of the west you have 15 teams!! So it can only be one team to the east and that team Should be Minn. This coming from a memphis fan.
Im from cincy and always wanted the royals to come back (im 24 so they were before my time but my grandmother said like the stingers cincy didnt care for them either) been wanting seattle to get their team back. Okc is a dumb relication (owner did because hes from there) the designe Better be supersonics and modern versions of their classic jerseys and the alternate is a exact throwback.
Agreed that Minnesota culturally makes far more sense for the eastern conference. It’s also far closer to eastern conference central division teams. Memphis would then be the 2nd best choice, with OKC moving to the southwest division to replace them. New Orleans while being one of the most eastern teams, is quite far from other Eastern conference teams. The closest one is the Atlanta hawks, and then your next closest are Charlotte, Miami and Chicago, while the rockets Mavs spurs and Thunder are all much closer to them.
I'm all for Seattle getting a new team. But I feel bad for the people of OKC everytime someone calls the move a mistake. OKC fans didn’t choose steal the Sonics. They were presented a team and root fot them, and we're at the point where they have a decent amount of history.
As a Van Grizzlies fan, I see no hate on the fans in Memphis (or OKC) for getting the Grizz (& Sonics). It can be hard seeing them get to be part of the ups and downs that we had taken away, but they weren't the ones behind that, just the ones lucky to call home where the owners felt they could do business. Am I glad that OKC didn't take the Sonics name so Seattle can rise again? Without a doubt. Do I wish Memphis had gone with a different name? Absolutely. But they have had the Grizz longer at this point, the name means something to those fans as well. VanCity if the chance ever comes up, we can come up with something new. IMO, From Vancouver, Love to Memphis, Love to Seattle. You too OKC. I hate those circumstances, but props and respect to the fans.
Billionaires asking tax payers to help them out in building the billionaires' team so that the billionaires can charge tax payers high prices. That sounds about right.
Only ONE team will be moved from Western Conference to Eastern Conference. Currently, both conferences have 15 teams. If you move two teams from West to East, then the East will have 17 teams and with the addition of the expansion teams the West will be back at 15 teams. Only one team is necessary to switch conferences to maintain balance.
If Seattle and Las Vegas both get expansion teams, then Memphis and New Orleans wouldn't both have to be realigned to the East; only one would. In the current alignment there would be 17 teams in the Western Conference and 15 in the Eastern, so only one team would have to move from West to East to get 16 teams in both.
@@BenTerry-n9r when Memphis moves East, the NBA is going to cut down to 4 divisions with 8 teams in each similar to NHL. Minnesota will be in the same division as Oklahoma City, Dallas, San Antonio, Houston, Denver and Utah as the Heartland Division.
The two teams make sense, one franchised restored and a new market established. Vegas is an atypical city and if this basketball franchise gets in before the A's - it may help the divided fandom. Expansion is more interesting than the game itself. With Hockey further expanding - a 36 team league may be feasible ... how about San Diego/Tijuana, Louisville/South Ohio, Kansas City and a Canadian Team
I see either Seattle or Vegas, but not both in the same expansion...at least not with two new teams. Yes, the league would have to be realigned and that's an issue. The bigger issue is that they'll end up with two expansion teams in the same conference and it creates a competitive imbalance unless the expansion draft rules are such that only say the top 4-5 players on each existing team are protected and Seattle and Vegas can grab starters or near-starters to fill out their rosters. If anything, we may see say a Seattle/Nashville expansion or a Vegas/second Chicago team expansion or something like that where there's a Western Conference and an Eastern Conference expansion team to balance things out. Alternatively, there's another option where a team such as Memphis moves to Seattle and then gets an Eastern Conference expansion team. The NBA has already done this with Charlotte/New Orleans, so there's a precedent there.
Nashville will never happen as an expansion team as long as there's a team in Memphis. It's more likely that the Grizzlies would move there than expansion. I don't think the league will put a second team in Chicago since the Bulls would fight against it. They need to give Seattle a franchise since they royally screwed them over with the Thunder move. Vegas will likely get the other expansion team since the league is obsessed with Vegas and the potential owners have deep pockets. As far as realignment goes, just move Minnesota to East and call it a day.
With Cincy wanting to build a new, bigger Arena. They're pushing for an NHL and/or NBA franchise to move here. Cincy is rising and investing in the city again.
Divisional realignment to 4 team divisions might get a bit weird but here are my guesses: NW Division: Seattle, Portland, Sacramento, Golden State. Pacific Division: LA teams, Las Vegas, Phoenix. Central Division: Utah, Denver, Minnesota, OKC. SE Division: Miami, Orlando, Atlanta, Charlotte. Midwest Division: Milwaukee, Chicago, Indiana, Detroit. NE Division: Boston, New York, Brooklyn, Toronto. Mid-Atlantic Division: DC, Cleveland, Memphis, Philadelphia.
Brodie what are your thoughts on the rays buying Steinbrenner from the Yankees, and relocating the tarpons to st Pete. While letting the Yankees still use Steinbrenner field for spring training, but rays take it for regular/post season while giving it major renovations to accommodate for MLB as well as the Yankees not having to pay a dime for anything, and also it being half the price of their share of the new(now most likely dead) stadium deal. (This is all hypothetical but I think this would be the easiest solution if all goes well for the rays in the trial run next season.)
Actually the Minnesota Timberwolves would be the team moving east, since they the closest to east conference teams and just one moves east so 16 teams per conference
Stern doesn't believe that Seattle relocating was a mistake. "Seattle will never get another team under my watch" were his words when Seattle City Council wouldn't build a new arena for them.
The NBA can follow the NHL in terms of scheduling and division realignment. Have two Conferences with 2 Divisions of 6 teams each. (2 x 2 x 6 = 32 teams)
If Vancouver were to get an expansion in the future, they should reclaim the Grizzlies name from Memphis like Charlotte reclaimed the Hornets from New Orleans.
A realignment fantasy: Western Conference Pacific GS, LAC, LAL, Sac Mountain Sea, Port, LV, Utah Southwest Dall, Hou, SA, NO Continental Phnx, Den, Minn, OkC Eastern Conference Atlantic Bos, Bklyn, NY, Phil Southeast Atl, Char, Mia, Orl Central Wash, Tor, Clev, Det Midwest Milw, Chi, Ind, Memp Atlantic/Pacific Central/Continental Midwest/Mountain Southeast/Southwest Washington’s franchise spent most of the 70s in the Central Division; Indiana had a regional rivalry with Memphis in the ABA in the 70s
@@oiler62 Like the Raiders(at least on the business side) the A's will thrive in Vegas. State of the art ballpark on the busiest section of the Strip, A's will be a top 5 revenue producing team.
@@jlopez8719 and still get revenue sharing because they're small market. Tix will be crazy expensive with only 30k seats. The dome looks nauseating. Nothing good comes out of that city.
The Wizards would fight that tooth and nail. Sports owners are more territorial than ever, especially in the densely populated Eastern seaboard region.
I really hope they don’t go to Vegas. Would totally kill the momentum the Aces have got going on there. Also the NBA cup final is already in Vegas so it can be a neutral venue (also perfect spot to have it), how would that work if this Vegas team makes it?
3:22 I disagree you only need 1 team to move east and I think Minnesota make sense since it so isolated from the western conference. At least NO and Memphis are close to the Texas teams.
If it is Seattle and Vegas, and I have no reason to believe it won't be, you only need one Western team to move east, and it's pretty obvious that it should be Memphis. I've been saying for a while now, Adam Silver will announce the expansion during the 2025 All-Star weekend and it will be Seattle and Las Vegas. We already know Seattle is getting the Supersonics name back, but what will Vegas' team be called? That's the question.
So the nations 42nd largest TV market Las Vegas will have all four major pro sports franchises plus D1 football and hoops while some top 25 markets have one? Does anyone there understand economics and market over saturation?
Minnesota will move to the east , Memphis & Nola r close to their division teams. Minnesota is in a division with Utah, Portland, Phoenix, OKC & Denver. If they move east they can play Midwest teams & hopefully establish a rivalry with Milwaukee
@@nelloismello I think Vancouver was doomed because of the Steve Francis situation. He demanded a trade because he felt Vancouver was boring. Yeah, if the NBA ever came back to Vancouver, maybe it would be different this time around because you have more players in the NBA who are from Canada, and also Canada is considered more cool now thanks to Drake of all people. LOL... Say what you want about Drake, he helped give Canada more positive pub and more of a part of hip-hop culture.
The Memphis Grizzlies should stay put in Western Conference and Southwest Division along with the Mavs,Rockets and Spurs,then add the Oklahoma City Thunder to replace the New Orleans Pelicans which they might go to the Eastern Conference and the Southeast Division with the Hawks,Heat,Hornets and Magic. The wizards would go to the Atlantic Division with the Celtics, Knicks,Nets,Raptors and 76ers. The new Seattle NBA team would play in the Northwest Division with the Jazz,Nuggets,Timberwolves & Trail Blazers while the new Las Vegas NBA team would play in the Pacific Division with the Cippers,Kings, Lakers,Suns and Warriors
There's a problem with moving both Memphis and New Orleans to the East. Simple math. Take them two out now, you get 13 teams in the West and 17 teams in the East. It can only be either Memphis or New Orleans because I doubt the NBA will do a re-alignment uneven. I believe the team moving to the East will be New Orleans beause if they don't get a new arena deal then they'll probably relocate to another Eastern city!
People have been asking that for 100 years and Vegas exists and thrives. Las Vegas is one of the best cities in the world when it comes to water use and conservation.
NBA should go to four divisons per conference and the realignment would look like this: NORTHEASTERN ATLANTIC CENTRAL SOUTHEASTERN BOSTON PHILADELPHIA CHICAGO ORLANDO TORONTO WASHINGTON INDIANA MIAMI NEW YORK ATLANTA CLEVELAND NEW ORLEANS BROOKLYN CHARLOTTE DETROIT MEMPHIS
MOUNTAIN SOUTHWESTERN NORTHWESTERN PACIFIC LAS VEGAS OKLAHOMA CITY PORTLAND LA LAKERS PHOENIX DALLAS SEATTLE LA CLIPPERS UTAH HOUSTON MINNESOTA GOLDEN STATE DENVER SAN ANTONIO MILWAUKEE SACRAMENTO
I see what you're saying there, but then you would be depriving the OKC fans of a Thunder team who has a chance to be good for a long time. Yes, Seattle would be able to enjoy those teams and it would be the NBA's way of paying back the Seattle fans who were without the Sonics for all these years, but at the same time, you would risk upsetting OKC fans. It's a tough situation.
My proposed NBA realignment: West: Northwest: Seattle, Portland, Utah, Denver Pacific: California teams Southwest: Phoenix, Vegas, OKC, Memphis Gulf Coast: Texas teams + New Orleans East: Central: Minnesota, Milwaukee, Chicago, Indiana Southeast: Miami, Orlando, Atlanta, Charlotte Northeast: New York, Brooklyn, Boston, Philadelphia 🤷♂️: Detroit, Cleveland, Toronto, Washington Comment any fixes you'd make I'm not really sure what to do with Washington
I agree that Washington was hard to place in a division, so they just got put into a leftover division. This feels like the current Northwest division. I wouldn't make any changes to the divisions in the East. In the West, I would keep the California and Gulf Coast divisions. But the other divisions would be: Southwest: Utah, Denver, Phoenix, Vegas Northwest: Seattle, Portland, OKC, Memphis It makes the most sense to pair the SW teams together based on travel. The NW division would pair the Old Sonics together with the New Sonics and create an insane rivalry. I really think it makes more sense to have 4 eight team divisions: Pacific: SEA, POR, GSW, SAC, LAL, LAC, PHO, LAS Southwest: UTA, DEN, OKC, SAS, HOU, DAL, NOP, MEM Central: MIN, MIL, CHI, IND, DET, CLE, TOR, WAS Atlantic: BOS, NYK, BRO, PHI, CHA, ATL, ORL, MIA
Where to put OKC and Memphis is very tough unless you go the NFL route. NY LAL GS in 1 conference BRK LAC and SAC in the other as a starting point. Still someone will get screwed
New Orleans should move to Seattle. NBA owners should not be paid ransom to restore what they allowed to be stolen. Expand in Vegas and a city in the east
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I’m not from Seattle, but I wanna set the record straight: I’ve been wishing, hoping and praying for Sonics fans to get their team back for the longest time. Seattle absolutely deserves to have their NBA team again. BRING BACK THE SONICS! 🏀🏀🏀
I live outside Seattle. Seattle wants a team back. CPA is a beautiful arena. Seattle would be ready next season, and Vegas could play at T-Mobile while their arena is being built. It would be ridiculous for Seattle to wait 3 years to start just because Vegas wants to play in a different arena.
The only advantage of having both teams come in simultaneously is it makes for a cleaner expansion draft. Each expansion team drafts 15 players for a total of 30 players, one per existing team.
It's ridiculous Las Vegas would need a separate arena when the NBA is putting the Cup in the existing arena
@@michaelallen8508 unless the Vegas expansion is owned by Bill Foley (VGK owner) there's no way in hell an NBA team is playing at T-Mobile for the long term. Temporarily, absolutely. There's at least two viable options for the NBA arena here in LV though.
@@vamoscruceros Expansion draft isn't a full roster build out actually. It is 14 players, with the 15th left open so the new teams can also enjoy one mid-first round pick in the normal draft as well.
Not even from Seattle but they deserve the Super Sonics
Brodie, another quality video! As a Seattle fan i can’t wait for the Sonics to return. They should have never left. I can’t wait to see these expansion talks progress
Minnesota moving east makes more sense than New Orleans because at least New Orleans is close to the Texas teams
So I believe it depends on which side of the Mississippi River both teams are. Minneapolis sits just west but almost directly on it, New Orleans sits directly on it but just east. Move Memphis east since they sit entirely east of the river.
@@BrandanTheBrokerboth Minneapolis and New Orleans city limits limits sit on both sides of the Mississippi River.
The closest Western conference team to Minnesota is Oklahoma City (787 mi.). Milwaukee (337 mi.), Chicago (413 mi.), Indiana (591 mi.), Detroit (693 mi.), and Cleveland (757 mi.), all in the Eastern Conference and are all closer than any team in the Western conference. Both Memphis and New Orleans are closer to each other, Oklahoma City and the three Texas teams (farthest distance is Memphis to San Antonio, 725 mi.),all in the Western Conference, than Minnesota is to the closest Western conference team. Minnesota moving east makes way more sense geographically than either Memphis or New Orleans.
Memphis is also further west then Nola, Nola is probably 3rd on the list to move east
@@BrandanTheBroker travel considerations are more important than just who is further west/east. Minnesota moving to the central division makes the most sense
I think this is the worst kept secret in sports. I believe it's only a matter of when, not if, the NBA announces Seattle and Vegas as two new expansion franchises, whether it's now or a year from now. I think they just need to firm up commitments from the owner, the expansion fee, and where their permanent home will be along with any funding required to bring the facilities up to NBA standards.
Agreed. It's a question of 'when' and/or 'who' rather than 'if' here. The only questions for which answers have to be hashed out are (a) the size of the price tag, (b) how many years the new franchises take before they vest into the media rights deals, and (c) how the NBA realigns afterward. A few years ago Adam Silver hinted at eliminating divisional alignments altogether and going single table. I wouldn't expect that, but neither four 8-team divisions or eight 4-team divisions would surprise me.
@@mactheknife7049 Agree. NFL has 8 divisions of 4 teams each. NHL has 4 divisions of 8 teams each. Makes no sense to have 6 divisions going forward. Second grade math.
The 82 game schedule actually works well with 32 teams split into eight divisions of four. Play all teams in the opposite conference twice (16 x 2 = 32 games), play teams in your conference outside your division 3 times (12 x 3 = 36 games), and play your division rivals 4 times (4 x 3 = 12 games) for a total of 80 games. Have the two extra games come from the knockout rounds of the NBA Cup, or the games the teams that do not advance play in their place. The two NBA Cup finalists would play 83 games like they do now.
As for alignment:
Pacific - Seattle*, Portland, Golden State, Sacramento
Desert - LA Clippers, LA Lakers, Las Vegas*, Phoenix
Northwest - Denver, Utah Oklahoma City, Memphis
Southwest - Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, New Orleans
Central - Milwaukee, Chicago, Indiana, Minnesota
Southeast - Atlanta, Charlotte, Miami, Orlando
Atlantic - Brooklyn, New York, Boston, Toronto
Northeast - Washington, Philadelphia, Cleveland, Detroit
@@vamoscruceros
Name changes:
- Desert to Pacific
- Pacific to Northwest
- Northwest to Mountain
- Northeast to Central
- Central to North
Swaps:
Indiana with Detroit
Philadelphia with Toronto
Then Toronto with Chicago
Memphis should be the one in the east, Not Minnesota.
@@TheCriminalViolin even though NO & MEM are closer east....Minnesota is too far away to its closest division rival (DEN)
Im a 40+ year NBA fan and fan of the Knicks. What happened to Seattle was a tragedy. That team meant so much to that area, and they had just drafted a first ballot hall of famer in Kevin Durant a year prior. They were on the come up again and it was ripped away from them. The NBA is past due to make them whole again.
That being said i dread losing one of our good players in an expansion draft, now that the Knicks are finally good again 🤣
Seattle sports fanatic here, we want Brunson!!!
Climate Pledge Arena in Seattle already has a locker room space ready for a NBA team to be back.
Seattle is almost guaranteed to get a new team soon, and Vegas most likely get a team as well, though I could see Louisville being a contender as well given they have a NBA caliber arena ready to go.
Kansas City, St. Louis, Pittsburgh or San Diego can get a NBA team too
Adam Silver
has sead they are looking at Seattle,Las Vegas, Montreal & Mexico City
It will be one in the West & one in the East from
what he said it sounded to me like the most likely was Las Vegas &
Mexico City.
@@alanfox691 but he admitted the Montreal, Vancouver and MXC are unlikely to be expanded
@@dreamcage1801Hell naw! Don’t give KC a team. I don’t want Nick Wright to have another team to worship.
@@alanfox691Mexico City? Why? Bad place to put an NBA team.
Las Vegas is a can't miss. NBA will do well here.
Same here for KC and Louisville. Maybe stl and SD
Why would you need to move 2 teams to the East? If expansion adds two to the West (Seattle and LV), that's 17 west/15 east, you need to only move one to make it 16 and 16. I agree that either Memphis or NOLA would make sense to move.
Minnesota makes more sense than either because they’re closer to 5-6 Eastern teams than they are to any team in the West.
Minnesota and Memphis
Glad other noticed that only one team need to switch conferences. One of Memphis, NOLA, or Minnesota make sense each have arguments for & against. I think what the biggest factor will be the number of division and there size.
Just move Minnesota to the East.
@@Mr.Ed_Wayner But isn't Memphis farther east
Bring back our Sonics!
Since moving down to AZ I've been a suns fan, but NGL, would be neat to rock my sonics hat and have the team exist again. I actually had a great time in the old Key arena before the relocation, it was a charming place to watch a game.
we here in Seattle, especially all the Sonics fans have patiently waited nearly 20 years for the NBA to come back. With the help of the Oak View Group (who privately funded Climate Pledge Arena), Seattle Kraken ownership along w/ Todd Leiweki, and Seattle city officials from the past 6 years to get ready for when the NBA does come calling for a new team, it is time now to get this done.
"Climate Pledge Arena" seriously?
@@deanfirnatine7814 Yes, Climate Pledge Arena. Amazon paid a crap ton of money for that stupid name, so we're stuck with it. Though a lot of us olds still call it Key Arena. And the really really olds still call it the Coliseum.
Just don't let the Mariners owner buy the team. That guy is a cheapskate.
@@HKim0072 we all know know, trust me
Damn, Vegas about to be a 4 sport town from nothing in like a 10yr span, this has to be some kind of record
I appreciate that this is actually not pure speculation. Brodie uses deductive reasoning and clearly lays out facts to make an informed prediction, which I largely concur with.
32 is a magnetic number; it feels natural to get to 32 and difficult to go past 32. Unlike 30 which is not evenly divisible by 4, 32 is evenly divisible by 4, 8 and 16 which is a big advantage when grouping and subgrouping teams into conferences and divisions.
I also agree that Seattle and Vegas are the two most likely expansion options by far, for the reasons Brodie explained. Adam Silver has talked about wanting two teams in Canada but I think Vancouver would be a much harder sell at this point in time. Seattle and Vegas are bigger markets with more investment potential and negligible travel changes to the NBAs current spread.
I also have to wonder which of the 4 big leagues will be the first to enter the Austin, TX market 🤔
Vancouver is a bigger city population wise then Vegas and Montreal is bigger then Vancouver
Dallas and Houston have MLB, NFL, and along with San Antonio have NBA. Only one NHL team in TX, but Houston would probably be before Austin.
Kansas City deserves an NBA team including Louisville too
@TOTN17 I like both Vancouver and Montreal, but city size is the wrong metric here. Teams want to set up in Vegas because of the 40m annual visitors looking for something to spend their money on. The Raiders avg 62k fans in a 65k seat stadium, one of the smallest in the league, but the revenue is second-highest in the league. Owners are looking for cash flow. Maybe OKC could move to Vancouver or Montreal.
Say the expansion fee is $5B. According to the latest figures from Forbes, the Warriors are the most valuable team in the NBA at $8.8B, followed by the Knicks at $7.5B and the Lakers at $7.1B. Middle of the pack teams: #14 Wizards @ $4.1B, #15 Bucks @ $4B, #16 Cavs @ $3.95B. Bottom three are Timberwolves @ $3.1B, Pelicans @ $3.05B, Grizzlies @ $3B. So $5B would seem reasonable. Forbes projects that NBA team values will increase significantly in the years to come.
Seattle need their team back!!!!!
Minnesota has haphazard traveling with teams in their division. Eastern Conference playing Chicago, Detroit, and Milwaukee in division sounds great.
That’s a nice way of saying their travel schedule sucks at best😂😂😂😂
I think Minnesota makes much more sense to move to the East because thy are so much closer to at least 2 eastern teams than they are to every other western team
Seattle was totally screwed when the Sonics were moved to OK
You mean tornado ally. 🌪️
It's absolutely wild how Las Vegas is going to go from a zero-sport city to a four-sport city in the space of a decade once the A's and the new NBA team get there.
Meanwhile, moving the Sonics from the 12th to the 46th-largest media market (according to Nielsen's rankings in 2023) was always a major headscratcher/Nick Young question-mark meme move. Vegas ranks 40th on that same list. The largest media market other than Seattle that doesn't have an NBA team is Tampa/St. Petersburg, Florida at 13th. Raleigh-Durham is 23rd, Pittsburgh 26th, and Columbus, Ohio is 32nd, all cities with NHL teams and arenas that don't have NBA teams.
It's a valid point and I wonder if the market can handle all the teams financially.
Edit: and, it's not even the media market that is important in Seattle. It's the corporate money side. Lots of companies in the Seattle area. The Warriors are the most valuable team in the US because of all the companies in the Bay Area.
nothing wild about it. This new generation of sports managers doesn't worry about a gambling scandal like their predecessors did. The Media will make a scandal disappear like they have always done in recent years.
I think Canada should have a second shot. Either Montreal or Vancouver. I am a Raptors fan and love the whole "We The North" branding and being "Canada's team"... I would still love to see a second team done right.
Agree I think Vegas is overextending itself sports wise
Kc or stl should have a NBA team too
@@dreamcage1801 I think every state and province should get an NBA and NHL team.
@@JustMikeTV like San Diego
I would love to see the NBA return to Vancouver, but it seems like Vegas has an ownership group ready to go and we don’t.
Minnesota and Memphis in the East would be nice.
Vegas Outlaws and Seattle Super Sonics 🎉
More watered down sports leagues so the league can divide up expansion fees, same old story
The sonics and vegas make a ton of sense. Between the Knights, Aces, Raiders and maybe the A's a Vegas NBA team seems ideal.
My only thought is the quality of gameplay is at an all time low, theyd be idiots to dilute it further. The most athletic game play but the least attention to detail, fundamentals, or audience captivation whether that be in person or via tv/streaming
no one cares about quality of play anymore. NBA still makes PLENTY of money. They won't care until TV ratings are off by at least 20% for a whole season.
@ they’re already dropping from my understanding. Not sure how much but they are
MLB needs to get their shit together on Vegas and tell the A’s no thank you. If the NBA gets a foothold here, there will not be support for a baseball team.
Vegas is more of a basketball town instead of a baseball town.
Considering what the NBA did to keep the NHL out of Seattle back in the 1990s, I hope the NHL returns the favor. But the real question about NBA expansion comes down to one factor: is NBA Co-Commissioner LeBron ok with it???
Different era at the time
Only one team has to be realigned to the east... to make 16 per conference Most likely New Orleans
It could even be Minnesota because of its close proximity to Milwaukee, Chicago and Detroit.
It will be Minnesota
NO is too close to all the Texas teams. If you move NO to the east the closest team is ATL.
Seattle didn’t lose their team. It was stolen.
That being said I believe the city struck a deal with the league that they HAVE give Seattle first crack at a team.
NBA is likely to expand to 6 cities and Seattle and Vegas are included
6 cities?
Climate Pledge Arena’s ready 💫
Only one team needs to switch conferences, not two, and I think it will be Minnesota. They may not be the furthest
East but they are the most isolated franchise.
I'm have referred to myself as "RipCity Sonic" off & on through the years, because I am equally a fan of both teams, despite being from the Portland area. Never let anyone from Seattle or Portland tell you they see each other as rivals, or are more of a fan of one versus the other. Certainly not the lie of "I don't like [whichever one isn't their local team]". It's a longstanding lie. We love them equally, and to us deep down, BOTH are our teams, whether you are from Seattle or Portland, Washington or Oregon. When Sternzilla, Howard Schultz and Clay Bennett conspired to rip the team out of Seattle, we here in RipCity were just as, if not slightly more vocal with animosity than some Sonics fans were. We still make up a huge portion of the #BringBackOurSonics crew.
they'll do it over all star weekend
WRONG!!
Only 1 team will move to the East. It cannot be 2 teams!!
West has 15 teams
Add 2 teams to the west and you have 17 teams.
To balance out the east west you need 16 teams.
If you take MEM and NO out of the west you have 15 teams!!
So it can only be one team to the east and that team Should be Minn.
This coming from a memphis fan.
Should be the Timberwolves.
@@heyukr5298 no it not Minnesota it New Orleans look at the map I been to New Orleans it east of Minnesota is
It also south of Wisconsin
Im from cincy and always wanted the royals to come back (im 24 so they were before my time but my grandmother said like the stingers cincy didnt care for them either) been wanting seattle to get their team back. Okc is a dumb relication (owner did because hes from there) the designe Better be supersonics and modern versions of their classic jerseys and the alternate is a exact throwback.
Agreed that Minnesota culturally makes far more sense for the eastern conference. It’s also far closer to eastern conference central division teams. Memphis would then be the 2nd best choice, with OKC moving to the southwest division to replace them. New Orleans while being one of the most eastern teams, is quite far from other Eastern conference teams. The closest one is the Atlanta hawks, and then your next closest are Charlotte, Miami and Chicago, while the rockets Mavs spurs and Thunder are all much closer to them.
I'm all for Seattle getting a new team. But I feel bad for the people of OKC everytime someone calls the move a mistake. OKC fans didn’t choose steal the Sonics. They were presented a team and root fot them, and we're at the point where they have a decent amount of history.
Agree. Don't blame the destination city. This coming from a former Expos fan.
As a Van Grizzlies fan, I see no hate on the fans in Memphis (or OKC) for getting the Grizz (& Sonics).
It can be hard seeing them get to be part of the ups and downs that we had taken away, but they weren't the ones behind that, just the ones lucky to call home where the owners felt they could do business.
Am I glad that OKC didn't take the Sonics name so Seattle can rise again? Without a doubt. Do I wish Memphis had gone with a different name? Absolutely. But they have had the Grizz longer at this point, the name means something to those fans as well. VanCity if the chance ever comes up, we can come up with something new.
IMO, From Vancouver, Love to Memphis, Love to Seattle. You too OKC. I hate those circumstances, but props and respect to the fans.
Billionaires asking tax payers to help them out in building the billionaires' team so that the billionaires can charge tax payers high prices. That sounds about right.
The great thing about basketball is its low overhead. Small rosters. Fewer coaches. Minimal equipment.
The labor agreements hammer out the cost structure. In theory, it doesn't matter the size of the team. It's just a % of revenue.
Oh you might be surprised at all the overhead and support staff an NBA team has nowadays.
It borderlines on overkill
Only ONE team will be moved from Western Conference to Eastern Conference. Currently, both conferences have 15 teams. If you move two teams from West to East, then the East will have 17 teams and with the addition of the expansion teams the West will be back at 15 teams. Only one team is necessary to switch conferences to maintain balance.
If Seattle and Las Vegas both get expansion teams, then Memphis and New Orleans wouldn't both have to be realigned to the East; only one would. In the current alignment there would be 17 teams in the Western Conference and 15 in the Eastern, so only one team would have to move from West to East to get 16 teams in both.
Memphis Grizzlies is going to the east.
Memphis is one of team move to East.
Neither team would have to move, Minnesota makes the most sense based on travel.
@@BenTerry-n9r when Memphis moves East, the NBA is going to cut down to 4 divisions with 8 teams in each similar to NHL. Minnesota will be in the same division as Oklahoma City, Dallas, San Antonio, Houston, Denver and Utah as the Heartland Division.
I really hope we get our Super Sonics back! 😭
The two teams make sense, one franchised restored and a new market established. Vegas is an atypical city and if this basketball franchise gets in before the A's - it may help the divided fandom.
Expansion is more interesting than the game itself. With Hockey further expanding - a 36 team league may be feasible ... how about San Diego/Tijuana, Louisville/South Ohio, Kansas City and a Canadian Team
I see either Seattle or Vegas, but not both in the same expansion...at least not with two new teams. Yes, the league would have to be realigned and that's an issue. The bigger issue is that they'll end up with two expansion teams in the same conference and it creates a competitive imbalance unless the expansion draft rules are such that only say the top 4-5 players on each existing team are protected and Seattle and Vegas can grab starters or near-starters to fill out their rosters. If anything, we may see say a Seattle/Nashville expansion or a Vegas/second Chicago team expansion or something like that where there's a Western Conference and an Eastern Conference expansion team to balance things out.
Alternatively, there's another option where a team such as Memphis moves to Seattle and then gets an Eastern Conference expansion team. The NBA has already done this with Charlotte/New Orleans, so there's a precedent there.
Nashville will never happen as an expansion team as long as there's a team in Memphis. It's more likely that the Grizzlies would move there than expansion. I don't think the league will put a second team in Chicago since the Bulls would fight against it. They need to give Seattle a franchise since they royally screwed them over with the Thunder move. Vegas will likely get the other expansion team since the league is obsessed with Vegas and the potential owners have deep pockets. As far as realignment goes, just move Minnesota to East and call it a day.
Can we have videos of Nba expansion to Vegas like the videos of Nhl expansion to Utah?
With Cincy wanting to build a new, bigger Arena. They're pushing for an NHL and/or NBA franchise to move here. Cincy is rising and investing in the city again.
Chili still good there?
@michaelmarkowski204 always!
KD should finish his career as a Sonic lol maybe Russ too. Gary Payton would finally get his jersey retired too
Divisional realignment to 4 team divisions might get a bit weird but here are my guesses: NW Division: Seattle, Portland, Sacramento, Golden State. Pacific Division: LA teams, Las Vegas, Phoenix. Central Division: Utah, Denver, Minnesota, OKC. SE Division: Miami, Orlando, Atlanta, Charlotte. Midwest Division: Milwaukee, Chicago, Indiana, Detroit. NE Division: Boston, New York, Brooklyn, Toronto. Mid-Atlantic Division: DC, Cleveland, Memphis, Philadelphia.
They might just go with 8 team divisions like the NHL
One day we are going to talk brodie into relocating to vegas, mauhaha 😂 jk. Love you dude, shout out to Oakland
Seattle & Las Vegas needs a NBA team.
Your math is off on how many teams would move east. Only takes one. That way, effectively, both the East and West grow by one team.
Also we need to remember that Seattle will have new logo.
It should be Montreal and Mexico City, if it were both about money and further expansion into the global market
Brodie what are your thoughts on the rays buying Steinbrenner from the Yankees, and relocating the tarpons to st Pete. While letting the Yankees still use Steinbrenner field for spring training, but rays take it for regular/post season while giving it major renovations to accommodate for MLB as well as the Yankees not having to pay a dime for anything, and also it being half the price of their share of the new(now most likely dead) stadium deal. (This is all hypothetical but I think this would be the easiest solution if all goes well for the rays in the trial run next season.)
Actually the Minnesota Timberwolves would be the team moving east, since they the closest to east conference teams and just one moves east so 16 teams per conference
You would only have to re-align one team to the east. If you add 2 teams to the west, that's 17 vs 15. Only one team has to switch to make it 16-16.
Stern doesn't believe that Seattle relocating was a mistake. "Seattle will never get another team under my watch" were his words when Seattle City Council wouldn't build a new arena for them.
Well, he was right. It didn't happen under his watch, but it is happening, so that's all that matters.
The NBA can follow the NHL in terms of scheduling and division realignment. Have two Conferences with 2 Divisions of 6 teams each. (2 x 2 x 6 = 32 teams)
2 x 2 x 6= 24 teams. But I do agree that 4 divisions of 8 teams would be the cleanest realignment.
@@BenTerry-n9r I should have meant 8 teams / division not 6
If Vancouver were to get an expansion in the future, they should reclaim the Grizzlies name from Memphis like Charlotte reclaimed the Hornets from New Orleans.
Did you mean "Memphis *or* New Orelans"? Only one of those teams can move East (I'd suggest Minnesota instead of Memphis or New Orleans).
It'll be one team that transfers to the eastern conference! Definitely either Minnesota or Memphis
Minnesota makes the most sense. I'm pretty sure they're closer to all of the teams in the Central than they are to any of the teams in the Northwest.
A realignment fantasy:
Western Conference
Pacific GS, LAC, LAL, Sac
Mountain Sea, Port, LV, Utah
Southwest Dall, Hou, SA, NO
Continental Phnx, Den, Minn, OkC
Eastern Conference
Atlantic Bos, Bklyn, NY, Phil
Southeast Atl, Char, Mia, Orl
Central Wash, Tor, Clev, Det
Midwest Milw, Chi, Ind, Memp
Atlantic/Pacific
Central/Continental
Midwest/Mountain
Southeast/Southwest
Washington’s franchise spent most of the 70s in the Central Division; Indiana had a regional rivalry with Memphis in the ABA in the 70s
Charlotte Bobcats paid $300M in 2004 as the last expansion team in the NBA.
Man, how times have changed
I think your right
Vegas' new NBA team will hopefully take the thunder out of the A's move there.
Why would you want the thunder taken out of the A's move to Vegas?
@bronxpinstripes the A's don't belong there. I wish them nothing but failure and misery there. #FJF
@@oiler62 Like the Raiders(at least on the business side) the A's will thrive in Vegas. State of the art ballpark on the busiest section of the Strip, A's will be a top 5 revenue producing team.
@@jlopez8719 and still get revenue sharing because they're small market. Tix will be crazy expensive with only 30k seats. The dome looks nauseating. Nothing good comes out of that city.
Too bad there's zero chance of Baltimore getting an NBA team. If it did I might actually be interested in following the league.
The Wizards would fight that tooth and nail. Sports owners are more territorial than ever, especially in the densely populated Eastern seaboard region.
I really hope they don’t go to Vegas. Would totally kill the momentum the Aces have got going on there. Also the NBA cup final is already in Vegas so it can be a neutral venue (also perfect spot to have it), how would that work if this Vegas team makes it?
3:22 I disagree you only need 1 team to move east and I think Minnesota make sense since it so isolated from the western conference. At least NO and Memphis are close to the Texas teams.
If it is Seattle and Vegas, and I have no reason to believe it won't be, you only need one Western team to move east, and it's pretty obvious that it should be Memphis. I've been saying for a while now, Adam Silver will announce the expansion during the 2025 All-Star weekend and it will be Seattle and Las Vegas. We already know Seattle is getting the Supersonics name back, but what will Vegas' team be called? That's the question.
So the nations 42nd largest TV market Las Vegas will have all four major pro sports franchises plus D1 football and hoops while some top 25 markets have one? Does anyone there understand economics and market over saturation?
Celtics deal needs to get done before any announcement gets done. Dont be shocked if Seattle gets left out by an international team.
Minnesota will move to the east , Memphis & Nola r close to their division teams. Minnesota is in a division with Utah, Portland, Phoenix, OKC & Denver. If they move east they can play Midwest teams & hopefully establish a rivalry with Milwaukee
Bring back Seattle and Vancouver
Sonics yes, but Vancouver will never get a team again imo
@@nelloismello I think Vancouver was doomed because of the Steve Francis situation. He demanded a trade because he felt Vancouver was boring. Yeah, if the NBA ever came back to Vancouver, maybe it would be different this time around because you have more players in the NBA who are from Canada, and also Canada is considered more cool now thanks to Drake of all people. LOL... Say what you want about Drake, he helped give Canada more positive pub and more of a part of hip-hop culture.
The Memphis Grizzlies should stay put in Western Conference and Southwest Division along with the Mavs,Rockets and Spurs,then add the Oklahoma City Thunder to replace the New Orleans Pelicans which they might go to the Eastern Conference and the Southeast Division with the Hawks,Heat,Hornets and Magic. The wizards would go to the Atlantic Division with the Celtics, Knicks,Nets,Raptors and 76ers. The new Seattle NBA team would play in the Northwest Division with the Jazz,Nuggets,Timberwolves & Trail Blazers while the new Las Vegas NBA team would play in the Pacific Division with the Cippers,Kings, Lakers,Suns and Warriors
There's a problem with moving both Memphis and New Orleans to the East. Simple math. Take them two out now, you get 13 teams in the West and 17 teams in the East. It can only be either Memphis or New Orleans because I doubt the NBA will do a re-alignment uneven. I believe the team moving to the East will be New Orleans beause if they don't get a new arena deal then they'll probably relocate to another Eastern city!
Will las Vegas even be habitable in 50 years?
People have been asking that for 100 years and Vegas exists and thrives. Las Vegas is one of the best cities in the world when it comes to water use and conservation.
I know it that the NBA is coming back to Seattle and coming to Las Vegas. 😀👍🏀
100 correct
Wouldn’t only 1 team be moved to the east? To make 16 in the west and 16 in the east?
LeBron is the hold up if Fenway sports group is the ownership group for vegas
Will Vancouver get a team back?
If they do it will probably be decades away.
And Oakland has NOTHING????
Well, they do have the Ballers (I wince every time I hear or read that name.....).
a basketball team in Seattle just doesn't make sense
--Elias (Former WWE Wrestler)
Should give Tampa a expansion team
naw, Orlando gets plenty of much-needed money out of the Tampa area.
Orlando would give that a hard no.
IMO Minnesota for sure needs to be in the East. Memphis & New Orleans can stay on the West.
That would not work that’s mean they will be 17 teams in the eastern conference and 15 teams in the western conference
It's actually the other way around. You could just move Minnesota to the East and it's balanced.
NBA should go to four divisons per conference and the realignment would look like this:
NORTHEASTERN ATLANTIC CENTRAL SOUTHEASTERN
BOSTON PHILADELPHIA CHICAGO ORLANDO
TORONTO WASHINGTON INDIANA MIAMI
NEW YORK ATLANTA CLEVELAND NEW ORLEANS
BROOKLYN CHARLOTTE DETROIT MEMPHIS
MOUNTAIN SOUTHWESTERN NORTHWESTERN PACIFIC
LAS VEGAS OKLAHOMA CITY PORTLAND LA LAKERS
PHOENIX DALLAS SEATTLE LA CLIPPERS
UTAH HOUSTON MINNESOTA GOLDEN STATE
DENVER SAN ANTONIO MILWAUKEE SACRAMENTO
NO expansion needed. Thirty teams are enough. Moreover, the NZBA talent pool is Sooo watered down. Relocate struggling teams
If they were to make things right for Seattle, move OKC back to Seattle (original franchise) and then award a new team to OKC.
I see what you're saying there, but then you would be depriving the OKC fans of a Thunder team who has a chance to be good for a long time.
Yes, Seattle would be able to enjoy those teams and it would be the NBA's way of paying back the Seattle fans who were without the Sonics for all these years, but at the same time, you would risk upsetting OKC fans. It's a tough situation.
Lebron will be owner, part owner of an expansion team in Vegas.
i hope no leborn james ownership.
If they do it will probably decades away.
My proposed NBA realignment:
West:
Northwest: Seattle, Portland, Utah, Denver
Pacific: California teams
Southwest: Phoenix, Vegas, OKC, Memphis
Gulf Coast: Texas teams + New Orleans
East:
Central: Minnesota, Milwaukee, Chicago, Indiana
Southeast: Miami, Orlando, Atlanta, Charlotte
Northeast: New York, Brooklyn, Boston, Philadelphia
🤷♂️: Detroit, Cleveland, Toronto, Washington
Comment any fixes you'd make I'm not really sure what to do with Washington
I agree that Washington was hard to place in a division, so they just got put into a leftover division. This feels like the current Northwest division. I wouldn't make any changes to the divisions in the East. In the West, I would keep the California and Gulf Coast divisions. But the other divisions would be:
Southwest: Utah, Denver, Phoenix, Vegas
Northwest: Seattle, Portland, OKC, Memphis
It makes the most sense to pair the SW teams together based on travel. The NW division would pair the Old Sonics together with the New Sonics and create an insane rivalry.
I really think it makes more sense to have 4 eight team divisions:
Pacific: SEA, POR, GSW, SAC, LAL, LAC, PHO, LAS
Southwest: UTA, DEN, OKC, SAS, HOU, DAL, NOP, MEM
Central: MIN, MIL, CHI, IND, DET, CLE, TOR, WAS
Atlantic: BOS, NYK, BRO, PHI, CHA, ATL, ORL, MIA
Where to put OKC and Memphis is very tough unless you go the NFL route.
NY LAL GS in 1 conference
BRK LAC and SAC in the other as a starting point.
Still someone will get screwed
New Orleans should move to Seattle. NBA owners should not be paid ransom to restore what they allowed to be stolen. Expand in Vegas and a city in the east
T Wolves should go east more games vs Bulls and Pistons