The Orthodox Church on Divorce and Remarriage

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  • Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024

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  • @xxFairestxx
    @xxFairestxx Год назад +13

    As you said here, Christ Himself had a hard line on this and gave one exception. 3 strikes you’re out? No.

    • @cesarriveraii550
      @cesarriveraii550 9 месяцев назад

      Like Christ also said, it is a condescension to human weakness. Once could’ve been a fluke. Twice could be a coincidence. Three times is a pattern.

    • @TruLuan
      @TruLuan 9 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@cesarriveraii550Where does Christ say that?

    • @cesarriveraii550
      @cesarriveraii550 9 месяцев назад

      @@TruLuan Christ said divorce was a condescension to human weakness here:
      Matthew 19:7-10
      They said to Him, “Why then did Moses command to give a certificate of divorce and to put her away?” He said to them, “Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning this was not so. And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, excepting sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.” His disciple said to Him, “If such is the case of the man with his wife, then it is better to not marry.”
      The Church has the authority to exercise oikonomia as a condescension to human weakness. Matters related to marriage and divorce are brought to the bishops. They are not up to the layperson. To divorce is a sin, and sin cannot be blessed.
      There’s an old saying that goes, “the Church blesses a first marriage, merely performs a second marriage, tolerates a third, but absolutely forbids a fourth.” No person need to marry three times to get it right.

  • @LastEarBender
    @LastEarBender Год назад +7

    And that's if the first marriage "qualified" as a marriage with the church's blessing to begin with. There are a lot of instances where a legal marriage & divorce may not be considered as having ever been a marriage by the church.

    • @ndmmt-wu7kz
      @ndmmt-wu7kz Год назад

      Like an annulment?

    • @LastEarBender
      @LastEarBender Год назад +1

      @@ndmmt-wu7kz marriage not in the church to non-believers or to religions outside of economia - those don't even count as having been married

    • @vesnatomicgolijanin3275
      @vesnatomicgolijanin3275 3 месяца назад

      ​@@ndmmt-wu7kzlike i was legaly married in city hall but few years later we planned church marriage and to baptise our children. The priest suggested that he do the marriage first than baptisme otherwise in church books children will be written as born outside of marriage.

  • @CleavetoAntiquity
    @CleavetoAntiquity Месяц назад +1

    3 times? Where does this teaching come from?

  • @xxFairestxx
    @xxFairestxx Год назад +5

    So my spouse can just divorce me and get remarried a total of 3 times?

    • @Theoria
      @Theoria  Год назад +1

      It’s not a “just” - ecclesiastically this is quite the process

    • @xxFairestxx
      @xxFairestxx Год назад +2

      @@Theoria but Jesus said only in places of infidelity…?

    • @codyleger1750
      @codyleger1750 Год назад +1

      They’ll just throw out the word “economia” for things that are unorthodox within the Eastern Orthodox church

    • @xxFairestxx
      @xxFairestxx Год назад +2

      @@codyleger1750 True. I love my faith with all my heart, but this trend is sneaking up….I see it too.

    • @codyleger1750
      @codyleger1750 Год назад +1

      @@xxFairestxx let me clarify, I want to be sure you knew I wasnt talking about you. You have actually been a very good source of information surrounding Eastern Orthodoxy. You dont fit the trending "orthobro" community and thats refreshing

  • @jamesbarger5241
    @jamesbarger5241 10 месяцев назад +6

    So many people miss what the "exception" Christ gave actually means. Marriage is until death with no exceptions. The only time its okay to remarry is if your spouse dies. In the Matthew 19 text Jesus wasn't referring to a legitimate marriage(both husband and wife's first marriage)when He gave the exception to divorce, He was talking about a marriage that isn't legitimate meaning they are "married" in a legal sense but in God's eyes they are in adultery because they are with someone other than their actual husband or wife. In other words It's sexually immoral for two people to be with one another if they also have a living spouse, so in that case they should get a certificate of divorce and hopefully be reconciled to their own husband or wife.

    • @DouglasNicholson-ff6ep
      @DouglasNicholson-ff6ep 6 месяцев назад

      Incorrect friend.
      Read 1 Cor. 5 and you'll see the "Fornicator" had sex with a another man's "WIFE".
      Please don't ASS-U-ME she was only betrothed.
      Fornication can be with a betrothed woman or a married woman.
      Both are equally, sins worthy of death, and mandated death prior to Christ.

    • @jackshannon777
      @jackshannon777 5 месяцев назад +1

      Exactly.

    • @MMAGUY13
      @MMAGUY13 5 месяцев назад +1

      You got it

    • @olijomusic2481
      @olijomusic2481 Месяц назад +1

      If you have this point of view, you're not allowed to reunite after being with someone another. It's an abomination. Read Deuteronomy 24:4

  • @everev851
    @everev851 Год назад +2

    There is a possibility to get religiously remarried in the orthodox church " kat' economia' meaning as exeption but the mystery, and the text and hymnes in the second marriage is kinf of sililar to funeral and kind of asking repentance and forgiveness for what the person is doing ...Only the first marriage is full of wishes joy and cheerful

  • @InfightWoodward
    @InfightWoodward Год назад +1

    Jesus’ exception for divorce is pornia which is translated to fornication in English but means several things, one being outside of the marriage standard…. I think all the churches not just EO miss this one…

  • @kjknightcraft1423
    @kjknightcraft1423 Год назад +2

    Hmm. I don’t think I ever k no ironed how similar this backdrop is to the Jedi archives

    • @MagnificentFiend
      @MagnificentFiend Год назад

      It's the library of Trinity College Dublin. And yes, was the model for the Jedi archives!

  • @SethCorbinMusic
    @SethCorbinMusic Год назад +2

    Where is the scripture? Why don’t we work from scripture outward?

  • @videos10
    @videos10 Месяц назад +1

    Seems like a practice of convinience

  • @mr.beefythecarnivore6415
    @mr.beefythecarnivore6415 Год назад +1

    I really like your stuff dude. You, and jay dyer are the reasons I overcame the whole orthodox conversion anxiety.

  • @JackDSquat
    @JackDSquat Год назад

    Why is there no marriage in the resurrected world when Adam and Eve were married in Eden? Did Jesus mean that there is only no marriage in heaven and not the new Eden? Could Adam and Eve have procreated before the fall? Can we procreate in the resurrected world?

    • @edoardocono166
      @edoardocono166 10 дней назад

      Eden and Heaven are two different things bro, you are using them interchangeably.

  • @MMAGUY13
    @MMAGUY13 5 месяцев назад

    So when Jesus says if you get divorced and remarried, that’s adultery and then the apostle Paul says no adultery. Going to heaven we could just pretend they didn’t say that.

  • @jamesbarger5241
    @jamesbarger5241 10 месяцев назад +2

    So many people miss the "exception" Christ gave. Marriege is until death with no exceptions. The only time its okay to remarry is if your spouse dies. In the Matthew 19 text Jesus wasn't referring to a legitimate marriage(both husband and wife's first marriage)when He gave the exception to divorce, He was talking about a marriage that isn't legitimate meaning they are "married" in a legal sense but in God's eyes they are in adultery because they are with someone other than their actual husband or wife. In other words It's sexually immoral for two people to be with one another if they also have a living spouse so in that case they should get a certificate of divorce and hopefully be reconciled to their own husband or wife.

    • @olijomusic2481
      @olijomusic2481 Месяц назад

      No reconciliation. Read deuteronomy 24:4

    • @jamesbarger5241
      @jamesbarger5241 Месяц назад

      @@olijomusic2481 1 Corinthians 7:8-11 KJV
      [8] I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I. [9] But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn. [10] And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband: [11] but and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.

  • @tesifongranadino6885
    @tesifongranadino6885 Год назад +1

    Being unevenly yoked ie a Christian married to a heathen or a pagan or a blasphemer etc etc etc; it is better for that Christian to divorce and remain celibate united to God Alone; both for his/her sake and that of the children, should such a regrettable union have known issue.

    • @CanditoTrainingHQ
      @CanditoTrainingHQ 10 месяцев назад

      Thats not Biblical. Unequally yoked applies BEFORE marriage. After marriage the two are one. You're applying human reason and will get whatever utilitarian answer you want. Jesus made no exception similar to what you said. His word matters more.

    • @LeutherGreengager-ip1uw
      @LeutherGreengager-ip1uw 9 месяцев назад

      St.Tikhon the Martyr, counselled divorce to any woman married to a Bolshevik Red. Do you Anathematize him also?

  • @0206-b8z
    @0206-b8z Год назад +1

    Its fornication in kjv not sexual immortality

  • @oliveri9407
    @oliveri9407 Год назад +8

    The eastern “orthodox” position is sinful blasphemy. Become Catholic 🇻🇦

    • @LauDataMarketer
      @LauDataMarketer 11 месяцев назад +1

      But I've seen Catholics also accept remarriage

    • @LauDataMarketer
      @LauDataMarketer 11 месяцев назад +1

      But I have seen Catholics also accept remarriage

    • @LauDataMarketer
      @LauDataMarketer 11 месяцев назад +1

      I'd like to understand, please, could u explain me?

    • @DouglasNicholson-ff6ep
      @DouglasNicholson-ff6ep 6 месяцев назад

      In terribly sorry but....
      Catholicism is everything the KJV word of God is not.
      That's what makes it distinct from biblical Christianity.

  • @gorequillnachovidal
    @gorequillnachovidal Год назад +2

    3 strikes and you are out!

    • @xxFairestxx
      @xxFairestxx Год назад +1

      As he said, Christ himself had a hard line. Infidelity only. No 3 strike rule.

    • @gorequillnachovidal
      @gorequillnachovidal Год назад

      @@xxFairestxx seems like the EO has 3 strike rule... did you listen?

    • @xxFairestxx
      @xxFairestxx Год назад +1

      @@gorequillnachovidal Did you listen? Christ didn’t have that rule. It’s progressivism creeping into our Church.

    • @gorequillnachovidal
      @gorequillnachovidal Год назад

      @@xxFairestxx i am talking about the EO. show stfu. you are not arguing my point so go talk to a wall

  • @bart234465
    @bart234465 Год назад

    Lolzzzzzz