You should add a pin to the jaw pivot mechanism so you can lock it in place for small parts, but still have the rotation available for large pieces. I really liked Alec's spring tension idea to give the pedal some resistance but I think you should make it increase the tension the closer the jaws get to each other. The resistance will give you much finer control of the clamping pressure. Maybe use a nonlinear spring that has an adjustable pre-load that you can tune to your preference. The last thing I'd suggest is a way of telescoping or raising/lowering the foot lever so you can adjust the clamping force as need be. Jason's demo was a great illustration. Sometimes you only need a couple hundred lbs of force. Being able to limit the clamping pressure would be a smart addition so you don't crush square aluminum tubing for example. Overall fantastic build and can't wait to see the MK3.
Your channel is going to have millions in a few months. Definitely the most underrated, highest quality channel I have come across in a long while. Your level of production is insane, your content itself is great and you have a likable personality. Keep up the great work!
Just take my money for this version. Please... I can’t wait any longer. Going to see Alec was a great idea. He is a hell of a guy and bright as the sun.
I appreciate how you pointed out certain things that you either forgot or had ideas for improvements during the video. It is also great how you took it to a few other places, had some real tests and additional ideas for improvements. Something as simple as a spring. The quick and simple way that was tested with a bungee cord was awesome. It shows people how much a prototype isn't going to be perfect and how to try simple and quick ideas without wasting a bunch of trying to get the idea perfect. Sharing that any of us can come up with a design and have it laser cut is great
Great great stuff, Tyler! what I liked the most was the suggestions from others. Maker alone can't always foresee all the potential points of failures and improvements likewise. Those insights were the most valuable part of the video I believe!!
We've been waiting for this video for so long and you definitely delivered! The MK2 looks so raw yet so refined, it's beautiful engineering and craftsmanship!!
The quality of your videos is through the roof! Very nice balance between know-how and mayyyybe attainable levels of production. Keep it up, you're gonna have one of the largest metalworking channels on your hands!
Well done. You need to be a bit more, excited! Haha, what a concept! You had an idea, made it real. Reinventing a design. These are the things to be presented to the younger generation of designers. Again well done.
One idea to make aligning the whole thing easier could be to make one tab at each end the full thickness. I am not sure if that would do much, but I htink that this could help. You also could make small holes or lines into similar parts, this way you can avoid paying extra for laser etching. A really great project, and if I ever need such a vise, I'll get back to you!
For the similar looking parts, you could make the tabs different lengths so that you can't put the wrong part in the wrong place when you go to weld it.
I am a woodworker and maker, I can see a lot of uses for a wooden version of this, I can see a project coming on! A great idea that I can see becoming a must have item for a lot of makers.
I feel like RUclips is a prophet. I was recommended your channel yesterday through that video, and now you're improving it. Edit my dumb brain can't comprehend your vs you're after midterms.
the youtube algorithm really doesnt seem to like you. its an awesome project, i wont ever need something like this but i love watching the videos about it and taking stuff away from it that i can re-use on my own projects. keep doing those videos, i hope you will get a lot more traction on youtube soon!
I've never been great at linkages, but I bet there's a passive linkage system that you could install running down the middle of the pivoting arm that attaches to the base or some fixed location to always keep the moving jaw parallel to the fixed jaw. Or if you want to take it a step (hah) further, you could make the whole moving arm a parallel linkage (essentially just a parallelogram)
Perhaps make the jaw angle adjustable with the ability to lock the angle. If you have many parts to grind, stick one in, get it level and then lock it at that angle so it meets parallel for all of those parts. That could work. I'm not sure about the engineering though...
Hey Tyler, great job man! I think you could replace the counterweight by designing the vise with parallelograms. That way it would stay parallel at any given time.
This is really smart, and useful. Also if you added a screw down section at the top to get a tighter clamp or use it as a locking mechanism to reduce fatigue would be great. Give you the quick ease of a foot vice mixed with the strength of a table vice
Just wached your bottle opener video. Trust me when i say your chancel will blow up soon. Your content are amazing! Keep up the good work. - Mikkel from Denmark
Adding the ratchet system would as you said allow it to lock. However, It would also allow it to pause before fully closing meaning it'd overcome the issue that Alec mentioned.
Brilliant project and design work Tyler, would suggest you up the volts on your welder if possible, some of those welds looked to be slightly cold lapped. Should almost be past dip and into spray transfer at 6mm (1/4") plate/fillets
Instead of adding part numbers etched on it, you can have some corners be rounded, some tabs have a small notch, or something like that. That way, it's part of the same operation and won't add extra costs
The development and improving of a product you designed yourself is the most fun you can have, I really like seeing your progress on the way to a sellable product. what i can recommend to design products in 3D is the software autodesk inventor, I know it is a big step to buy this. i have it for free because i am a student so that deffently helps.
Really great to see the progress of the different versions, and it will continue to be over the coming years! Also looking forward to seeing all the user modifications when it finally will be available to the public. It's probably a good idea to skip the free swinging jaw, but shouldn't it have a standard pivot to accept a piece of 1-2" width instead of zero clearance? Maybe have some kind of pin system to select jaw angles for different work piece widths?
If I could afford it I would totally buy a kit. As a hobby blacksmith it would be just the tool I'm missing in my garage/shop. Been thinking about making one since I saw it on Alec's channel
Great video!! Absolutely love the idea and hope you succeed! I feel like you could take a few design ideas from mole grips? Having that spring mechanism to give you some feedback like Alex was saying while also it locking shut so you can walk away? That combined with a new leverage system as you suggested would make an all round amazing foot vice and a tool you couldnt live without!
Taking just 6 months or 12 months of core ME courses will increase your ability to rapidly prototype stuff that works and doesn't fall apart catastrophically. And with more complicated and extreme builds you then have solid understanding and ability to calculate and interpret correctly (very important) results from simulations. Highly recommend it, even online or night school so you can keep working through it.
Thats freaking brilliant well done young man! I been toying with a foot clamp like this for working around my yard I have an old plow But im thinking about making the majority of it out of oak so it wont rust out.....
Hopefully the next part was filmed before Alec left for the UK... Awesome work! Edit: obviously you did, wish we could have seen a little more of that.
Awesome project! If I was making this vice for myself, I think I would want it to be held closed with a spring and then step to open, that way you could reposition yourself independent of the work.
That's really nice! Maybe you could make a version where it's always closed with a counterweight, and you have to push the pedal to open it. It would be easier not to drop the part if you're accidentally lifting your foot.
I think the jaw path should remain fixed like a traditional vise. You could apply force to it similar to how a crankshaft connects. The piston and head are always parallel, but the crankshaft allows other freedoms. Maybe a hydraulic system would work too? You'd be able to fine tune the stroke vs force easily by changing hydraulic cylinder size.
I bet that you could laser cut some 'tiny holes so that you could match up the parts to one another. Like, triangles or circles, or your channel logo. ;D and then it would just be matching up the part that has 'three' dots, or a dot and a triangle and a X
I would just make the dynamic end round like a piece of pipe. That way the tangent of curved surface is always perpendicular to the static face. Stuff won't turn in the vice.
I always thought some sort of parallel arm for the pivoting jaw would work better than the counter weight, which really counts on perfect (and consistent) conditions to function.
another way you could do the self-leveling jaw without having the problem that occurs with clamping something in the upper third of the jaws is to just move the self-leveling mechanisms to the top half of the jaw, not the dead middle.
Hello Tyler, great job! How about adding an extension to the treadle that flips out? This way you have the normal operation with a more comfortable step, but if you need that bit of extra force, you can flip out the extension for extra leverage. You can operate the extension with your foot, so itd be a quick operation. I just found your channel, and I know this video is a couple years old, but it may be cool if you're still working on V3
Keep doing your thing bro. The best way to learn is to try, so you'll get better and better everyday. Sometimes you surprise yourself, im a carpenter myself and sometimes you second guess yourself and then when you do it you're like damn that wasn't so bad, lol.. I gotta get me that weld table, im trying to step into the metal world lol. Soon or later. Good luck bud.
Nice one 👍 instead of the tilting jaw you could use a curved face so as it pivots, smaller parts will be held higher in the jaws, also that’ll effectively be clamping on three points and help you hold different shape stock
@@joelaw728 I see your point but perhaps both can be incorporated , ie. only click when lots of foot pressure applied.. same as you can do with vise grips. You can reef a lot of pressure with vise grips... or adjustable , click positions
I plan on *selling a weld-yourself-kit and plans* for a new version of the vise. Sign up for the newsletter to stay updated! Tylerbellmakes.com
Instructions very clear. Welded myself to vise, have a new vise foo-
Wait a second....
I might have read these upside-down....
super exited on the foot vice weld your self kit ,
and its perfect timing because i am saving up for a welder and im nearly there
Dude that’s an awesome vice and can’t wait to see the final version, I’d so buy one for my shop
You are the best you deserve 1 mil subs
DO IT this would be PERFECT for a father son/daughter project especially with the tabs helping out!! AWESOME!!👍🏽👍🏽
I think this is one of the best metalworking videos on youtube! GREAT WORK!!!
Thanks so much man!!
HOLY COW IM A FAN OF BOTH OF YOU but how did u comment 2 days ago? You have a membership for Tyler Bell? :))
Hey wait! How did you comment 2 days ago on a video that came out a half hour ago?!?! Must be that proprioceptive awareness!🤣
Also how kind your giving him the vice :) I’m not suprised you have a membership as he’s this nice
So @alecsteele
You've got your first piece of equipment for the new UK workshop down?
I really enjoy watching the vise improve with every version. Can’t wait to see what you come up with for vise 3.0.
Thanks Jason! I really appreciate you having me out to your shop and for the feedback!! Lots of improvements to come!
So glad Alec introduced us to you, you’re an absolute delight to watch
Thank you!
@@TylerBellMakes you’re welcome!
You should add a pin to the jaw pivot mechanism so you can lock it in place for small parts, but still have the rotation available for large pieces.
I really liked Alec's spring tension idea to give the pedal some resistance but I think you should make it increase the tension the closer the jaws get to each other.
The resistance will give you much finer control of the clamping pressure. Maybe use a nonlinear spring that has an adjustable pre-load that you can tune to your preference.
The last thing I'd suggest is a way of telescoping or raising/lowering the foot lever so you can adjust the clamping force as need be. Jason's demo was a great illustration.
Sometimes you only need a couple hundred lbs of force. Being able to limit the clamping pressure would be a smart addition so you don't crush square aluminum tubing for example.
Overall fantastic build and can't wait to see the MK3.
Your channel is going to have millions in a few months. Definitely the most underrated, highest quality channel I have come across in a long while. Your level of production is insane, your content itself is great and you have a likable personality. Keep up the great work!
Thank you!
really happy i found this channel and all of these products, incredible work
Just take my money for this version. Please... I can’t wait any longer.
Going to see Alec was a great idea. He is a hell of a guy and bright as the sun.
This channel seriously deserves way more followers.
I appreciate how you pointed out certain things that you either forgot or had ideas for improvements during the video. It is also great how you took it to a few other places, had some real tests and additional ideas for improvements. Something as simple as a spring. The quick and simple way that was tested with a bungee cord was awesome. It shows people how much a prototype isn't going to be perfect and how to try simple and quick ideas without wasting a bunch of trying to get the idea perfect. Sharing that any of us can come up with a design and have it laser cut is great
Thanks!!
So cool Tyler! You crushed the video!!
😂 thanks Johnny!
Ever since I saw it on Alec's channel, I've been excited to see this build video.
Super impressive. Great job, Tyler!
Thank you!
Great great stuff, Tyler! what I liked the most was the suggestions from others. Maker alone can't always foresee all the potential points of failures and improvements likewise. Those insights were the most valuable part of the video I believe!!
Thank you!
We've been waiting for this video for so long and you definitely delivered! The MK2 looks so raw yet so refined, it's beautiful engineering and craftsmanship!!
Thanks guys!!!
Watching your enthusiastic design evolution is seriously infectious. Can't wait to see the next iteration!
The quality of your videos is through the roof! Very nice balance between know-how and mayyyybe attainable levels of production. Keep it up, you're gonna have one of the largest metalworking channels on your hands!
Thank you!!
Thank you!!
Well done. You need to be a bit more, excited! Haha, what a concept! You had an idea, made it real. Reinventing a design. These are the things to be presented to the younger generation of designers. Again well done.
Thank you!
Great job Tyler! I really enjoyed watching this one!
You are one of the best youtube channels out there right now keep up the amazing work
Thank you!!
Tyler, You are doing awesome as i always knew you would. i love how entertaining and honest you are in these! i cant wait to see how far you take it!
One idea to make aligning the whole thing easier could be to make one tab at each end the full thickness. I am not sure if that would do much, but I htink that this could help. You also could make small holes or lines into similar parts, this way you can avoid paying extra for laser etching.
A really great project, and if I ever need such a vise, I'll get back to you!
For the similar looking parts, you could make the tabs different lengths so that you can't put the wrong part in the wrong place when you go to weld it.
Take your common sense and sell it
WOOO FOOT VISE V2!!!
Woohoo!
I am a woodworker and maker, I can see a lot of uses for a wooden version of this, I can see a project coming on!
A great idea that I can see becoming a must have item for a lot of makers.
Holy crap! The holy trinity of making stuff! Awesome!😁😎👍
Rad video, can't wait to see this channel blow up! Subbed!
Wow, Tyler, the foot vise is really shaping up! So proud of your accomplishments so far!
Thanks Tom!
Glad to see your continued success. Looking forward to seeing what’s next. Well done sir.
I feel like RUclips is a prophet. I was recommended your channel yesterday through that video, and now you're improving it.
Edit my dumb brain can't comprehend your vs you're after midterms.
Awesome vid! Keen to see more of the design iteration process
These video’s deserve more views!
Thanks for having cool sponsors instead of just another VPN
the youtube algorithm really doesnt seem to like you. its an awesome project, i wont ever need something like this but i love watching the videos about it and taking stuff away from it that i can re-use on my own projects. keep doing those videos, i hope you will get a lot more traction on youtube soon!
Thank you!!
Nice tool! What about a parallelogram joint on the moving jaw to keep it paralell to the static one all along its movement.
I've never been great at linkages, but I bet there's a passive linkage system that you could install running down the middle of the pivoting arm that attaches to the base or some fixed location to always keep the moving jaw parallel to the fixed jaw. Or if you want to take it a step (hah) further, you could make the whole moving arm a parallel linkage (essentially just a parallelogram)
Awesome video man! The producing quality of these videos is great!
Thanks!!
Yea, this was great. I watch Alec and Fireball channels, and your quality and content are great! Subscribed. You win
Yea ill take the plans gladly
This video was awesome! Keep up the great work!
Thanks guys! You make some KILLER products!
Bell right on love it. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend keep making greatness.
Thanks!!
@@TylerBellMakes ur very welcome hopefully I will be able to buy one sometime down the road
I love your energy
This is incredible, can’t wait to make one myself when you release plans
I love your energy! So easy to tell how much you love what you're doing!
Thank you!!
Perhaps make the jaw angle adjustable with the ability to lock the angle. If you have many parts to grind, stick one in, get it level and then lock it at that angle so it meets parallel for all of those parts.
That could work. I'm not sure about the engineering though...
Hey Tyler, great job man!
I think you could replace the counterweight by designing the vise with parallelograms.
That way it would stay parallel at any given time.
this
Loving it Tyler! Cant wait to get one!
Thank you!
Alex’s channel made me find you and I am glad it did.
Tyler Bell Rocks
This is really smart, and useful.
Also if you added a screw down section at the top to get a tighter clamp or use it as a locking mechanism to reduce fatigue would be great. Give you the quick ease of a foot vice mixed with the strength of a table vice
That is really cool. Reminds me of how some toys used to come in those packs you would have to break apart so you could assemble it.
Thanks David!
Really appreciate your effort brother
Nicely done
Wait, this kid hangs out with Jason and Alec? How am I just finding your channel??
Just wached your bottle opener video. Trust me when i say your chancel will blow up soon. Your content are amazing! Keep up the good work.
- Mikkel from Denmark
Great video, well shot and edited. Vice looks awesome. So useful! Mahalo for sharing! : )
Thanks!!
Adding the ratchet system would as you said allow it to lock. However, It would also allow it to pause before fully closing meaning it'd overcome the issue that Alec mentioned.
Brilliant project and design work Tyler, would suggest you up the volts on your welder if possible, some of those welds looked to be slightly cold lapped. Should almost be past dip and into spray transfer at 6mm (1/4") plate/fillets
Mate keep up the good work , I really enjoy your videos .
looking forward to seeing how vice # 3 turns out . cheers. (:
Instead of adding part numbers etched on it, you can have some corners be rounded, some tabs have a small notch, or something like that. That way, it's part of the same operation and won't add extra costs
Nice idea
The development and improving of a product you designed yourself is the most fun you can have, I really like seeing your progress on the way to a sellable product. what i can recommend to design products in 3D is the software autodesk inventor, I know it is a big step to buy this. i have it for free because i am a student so that deffently helps.
I'm not sure what I would use a foot vise for yet, but I want one!
You might try to make a parallelogram mechanism to keep the jaw parallel.
Really great to see the progress of the different versions, and it will continue to be over the coming years! Also looking forward to seeing all the user modifications when it finally will be available to the public.
It's probably a good idea to skip the free swinging jaw, but shouldn't it have a standard pivot to accept a piece of 1-2" width instead of zero clearance? Maybe have some kind of pin system to select jaw angles for different work piece widths?
If I could afford it I would totally buy a kit. As a hobby blacksmith it would be just the tool I'm missing in my garage/shop. Been thinking about making one since I saw it on Alec's channel
Awesome!
Great video!! Absolutely love the idea and hope you succeed! I feel like you could take a few design ideas from mole grips? Having that spring mechanism to give you some feedback like Alex was saying while also it locking shut so you can walk away? That combined with a new leverage system as you suggested would make an all round amazing foot vice and a tool you couldnt live without!
Taking just 6 months or 12 months of core ME courses will increase your ability to rapidly prototype stuff that works and doesn't fall apart catastrophically. And with more complicated and extreme builds you then have solid understanding and ability to calculate and interpret correctly (very important) results from simulations. Highly recommend it, even online or night school so you can keep working through it.
Thats freaking brilliant well done young man! I been toying with a foot clamp like this for working around my yard I have an old plow But im thinking about making the majority of it out of oak so it wont rust out.....
Should make the dynamic jaw pivoting and fixed. I'm definitely inline with ordering one!!
instant sub to see what improvements you make on the mk.3.
Killing it!!
With regard to almost identical parts, you can change the tab size and locations to force the parts into the right place.
Hopefully the next part was filmed before Alec left for the UK...
Awesome work!
Edit: obviously you did, wish we could have seen a little more of that.
Looks freakin awesome!
welcome back, Tyler! :D
@tylerbell keep the dynamic jae but add a locking pin to keep it from rotating when clamping smal stuff
I love the idea but I think that you need some sort of locking mechanism like a vice grip for when you need to grind around the podium
For the nearly duplicate pieces you could uniquely arrange the tabs so they are specific to location
Just started watching your videos and there amazing!!!
Thanks!!
Awesome project! If I was making this vice for myself, I think I would want it to be held closed with a spring and then step to open, that way you could reposition yourself independent of the work.
Very impressive Tyler 👍 If Jason likes it, you couldn't ask for a better endorsement.
That's really nice! Maybe you could make a version where it's always closed with a counterweight, and you have to push the pedal to open it. It would be easier not to drop the part if you're accidentally lifting your foot.
I think the jaw path should remain fixed like a traditional vise. You could apply force to it similar to how a crankshaft connects. The piston and head are always parallel, but the crankshaft allows other freedoms.
Maybe a hydraulic system would work too? You'd be able to fine tune the stroke vs force easily by changing hydraulic cylinder size.
I could use something simmilar for glass blowing using two part graphite molds
I bet that you could laser cut some 'tiny holes so that you could match up the parts to one another. Like, triangles or circles, or your channel logo. ;D
and then it would just be matching up the part that has 'three' dots, or a dot and a triangle and a X
I would just make the dynamic end round like a piece of pipe. That way the tangent of curved surface is always perpendicular to the static face. Stuff won't turn in the vice.
That's very true, but you would damage all of the parts you wanna clamp, since all of the force you apply is distributed on a very small area.
I always thought some sort of parallel arm for the pivoting jaw would work better than the counter weight, which really counts on perfect (and consistent) conditions to function.
Good idea Jeremy
another way you could do the self-leveling jaw without having the problem that occurs with clamping something in the upper third of the jaws is to just move the self-leveling mechanisms to the top half of the jaw, not the dead middle.
Pretty good idea, i wonder about fatigue on your leg tho. Why wouldn't the pedel be closer to the ground when closed?
This young lad has a very bright future!
Hello Tyler, great job!
How about adding an extension to the treadle that flips out? This way you have the normal operation with a more comfortable step, but if you need that bit of extra force, you can flip out the extension for extra leverage. You can operate the extension with your foot, so itd be a quick operation.
I just found your channel, and I know this video is a couple years old, but it may be cool if you're still working on V3
Keep doing your thing bro. The best way to learn is to try, so you'll get better and better everyday. Sometimes you surprise yourself, im a carpenter myself and sometimes you second guess yourself and then when you do it you're like damn that wasn't so bad, lol.. I gotta get me that weld table, im trying to step into the metal world lol. Soon or later. Good luck bud.
Nice one 👍 instead of the tilting jaw you could use a curved face so as it pivots, smaller parts will be held higher in the jaws, also that’ll effectively be clamping on three points and help you hold different shape stock
Very cool!
You know what's interesting, there's a traditional woodworking bench called a shaving horse that's like a horizontal version of what you've got here
Dude you are smart as heck, you can absolutely weld better than that, i believe in you
Nice work!
I wonder if a similar setup but using strong springs to keep it clamped and you use the foot pedal to release would be useful?
use the same mechanism as a vise grip, 2 pedals, locking / force and unlocking. include spring as a clamping force.
But then you would need to adjust it for everything you clamp like vice grips, which would make it slower and defeat the point
@@joelaw728 I see your point but perhaps both can be incorporated , ie. only click when lots of foot pressure applied.. same as you can do with vise grips. You can reef a lot of pressure with vise grips... or adjustable , click positions
Great video keep up the good work
Cool tool haven't seen one before. Thanks for sharing.
Can we get some TIG in this house!!!!! Much needed! 😅
Awesome Tyler 🙌
Thanks Rob!