Hi Brian, I don't own any flexvolt but this does look really good especially with the new technology motor. It's all about new and improve. Maybe the design didn't change but look at Skil circular saws. It's design hasn't change but the technology did. I'm very happy that DeWalt is improving their 20v line with the power detect technology and new 21700 cells batteries. All these companies are improving so much with their technology. I do like my cordless but i still can't let go of my corded tools yet, LOL...
First-thanks for your review. Wanted to see if there were any physical differences. Second-this can be a great tool for welders. Mostly in the field because you move around so much doing stuff not setup for a station. These 60v help a ton with keeping a mess of leads and cords untangled. If there’s a ton of grinding I’m digging for a corded 6” or even a 9 (8”). The hefty price tag doesn’t make it worth it to most. Third-take the handle off the grinder and grab the head. You can naturally place your body in a better position where you are not throwing sparks back at you. The only time I ever see someone use a handle is if they have a big wheel on and are grinding in a flat position. Lastly-be careful when applying max force with a tiger pad or an 1/8” wheel. They are not meant for that much downward pressure and are not pleasant when they come apart. Also-no strings on a hoodie.
As someone who uses a grinder like me as it is my most used tool next to an impact and drill and needs the portability to take it from 10 to 40 feet in the air I love the flexvolt grinder and other tools as well. Ever since flexvolt was released i havent touched a corded tool since on the job site. Now i do have 5 9ah and 1 12ah battery at this point but one main factor that was a game changer for strictly cordless is the 4 port fast charger. I cant kill batteries as fast as this charges them up even if i try. The big thing with the dcg414 is even if the runtime isnt the best like you say the amount of grinding and cutting that can be done in that period of time is far superior to any1 else. I also have the dcg413f with the flathead. I wish they did that model with the power detect as well. I will for sure get this dcg418 asap and sell my 414 to a co worker that always buys my used tools lol.
I used the DCG414 for over a year now, my favorite tool I ever owned by far. I originally had 2 of the flexvolt batteries, when doing some heavy fab work, I'd occasionally run the battery down before the next one charged. Bought a third battery and I can work all day without having to worry about battery life. I'm building armored trucks, having to climb all over and under the truck, compared to a corded grinder this probably saved me at 2 hours a day.The only problem I have with this grinder is that everyone in the shop is always trying to borrow it.
@Jack Braddell this is 2020 who wants to worry about a cord and every job is not a lift sometimes ladders. At least for me. Plus i got tons of other tools too not jus a grinder.
@Jack Braddell everybody got there preference. I make enough money (not saying you dont) and sitting comfortably to have all cordless and prefer the convenience. Not all jobs have power or some places nearest outlet has too many other things on it and just keep tripping breakers. The cordless tools (the right ones) nowadays provide the power of high end corded models.
@Jack Braddell yea retail price is ridiculous for cordless i stick with ebay for batteries and certain kits and promos can be a good value. I rarely pay retail price for anything power tool wise unless its coming with "free" tools or batteries i can sell or need. Except for this grinder kit only $50 extra for 9ah and charger
I agree with you 100% it’s great for small heavy duty jobs but not for large long term all day jobs unless you have 8 or more high output batteries to use during a 8 hour work day like contracting jobs
Wow Brian, I didn't know they were upping the power on the flexvolt stuff like the 20v stuff, that grinder was already a beast, cant wait to try out the newer model. Thanks for the awesome video as always brother!!
I’m a welder and Pipefitter I stay corded for all day but when I’m doing small bore socket welds not butt welds. It’ll last awhile for 2” but anything over 3” with a bevel those grinders run through batteries.
Like the review. But what I use my cordless angle grinder for is small quick jobs. Might have to cut a piece of angle iron or something small. I use it with a sanding disc to buff stuff down and use a wire wheel to clean with too. It’s nice to have a cordless grinder to use on small stuff. I wouldn’t use it all day long because I would have to wait for the batteries to charge.
I wish I saw your video today . I just spent 800 Canadian dollars on a grinder kit plus two more 9amps batteries and I need 3 chargers to work . I was usning to sand a deck and batteries last about 10 minutes with out pressing down
For me my cordless grinder is a fairly specialized tool, sometimes. If I need to climb up the Side of a unit I can tie it to my back and just go, slap on the disk at the top and do the job. With a corded grinder that would be far more dangerous. Of if I need to go all around the factory doing little grinding jobs, the cordless is far better. There’s also a lot of situations where I need to just make a quick grind and it’s better to just use the cordless one rather than serching all corners of the globe for an extension cord. HOWEVER, when I know I’m doing a lot of grinding in one place I always pull out the corded grinder and hunt down an extension cord. Also, unforeseen plus, I can charge my watch and phone off my used grinder batteries. Like even if it won’t run my grinder it’ll still charge my phone for a while. That was once the difference between having and not having a navigation system for my drive home in the rain.
Great review Brian bought the DCG414 back when it came out just my luck dewalt coming out with more power guess I'll have to put the brakes on when purchasing new tools
The grinder is a strong as a lawnmower an average one how long you expected to run with a little battery And you’re 100% right as in the way I see it too it’s not worth upgrading because the other ones plenty strong if you already have it but if you don’t it’s worth buying the Better one
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Roger that, unless you invest in a large amount of batteries, you are correct. They are battery eating machines that provide awesome power and mobility at a cost.
All of these are very good.but i see that with all this power this as the previous model sould have an adjustment switch so for you to want a little bit more gentle power!!!that is olny i see that lacks from these horsepower units.also i think that the new power detect tools have more "value for money" as the are a little step down in power but with greater runtime and has the versatility to put a flexvolt battery with even more runtime....Hi from Greece and stay at home....🙏🙏🙏
I like this info you are giving here in this video, can you also put up links to the tools video that you done in the past as you are mentioning them . thanks
Runs better on the dcb609. New technology in the motor of the grinder with the new 21700 batteries in the 9 amp make a perfect pair. I've seen it myself on the jobsite. I also own one of these and 3 9ah batteries myself. It's both powerful and effective. I'm a welder by trade by the way. Still not totally sold on cordless grinders because of the power they use but with the 9ah they seem to do the best
This is exciting. I have the regular one and out of my 11 grinders, it's my favorite. Very smooth runner. But not sure I want to spend that much on another one, even if it is this nice. maybe if I find a sale in the next few months.
@@keithgreen3257 Until I read your comment, I wouldn't have noticed that until the first time I use one and go to sit it down like my drills and oscillating tool, lol.
They need to come up w variable speed 60v tool. Granite slab fabrication here.... I'd jump on the opportunity to purchase one if it had the variable speed dial.
FlexVolt tools do not accept 20 volt batteries. 20-Volt tools will accept FlexVolt batteries. FlexVolt Advantage tools are 20 volt tools, not 60. FlexVolt tools are 60-Volt tools. Clear as mud?
I find myself not using my corded grinders near as much now that I have the flexvolt and my Ridgid grinders. I keep a flap disc on the Ridgid and almost always use it when I'm fabbing up stuff. It is so nice not to have to have an extension cord tangled up in my leads. Maybe I missed it in the other video, but could you sometime explain/compare the differences between flexvolt and power detect? It has me scratching my head.
That is coming, but it is pretty simple. Power detect is a 20 volt only platform and it can tell the difference between 20-volt batteries and what amps they can produce. They can use FV batteries like any other 20 volt tool. Flexvolt tools can only use 60 volt FV batteries.
Your confusing me, say 15 mins of runtime on this with a 9ah and 10mins on the power detect with 8ah but then say the power detect has long runtime. Also say old test is 3.5mins runtime but the new one gains not much runtime. Very contradictory. Love your channel btw, from a fellow Michigan resident keep it up!
First, the old test was purely grinding. So the runtime was short at 3.5 mins. Battery op grinders are not great long term grinding machines. The Flexvolt 9.0 Ah battery is 3P so it has 15 cells and will last longer than the XR 8.0 Ah battery that is 2P and has 10 cells. Just how the test worked out.
I know its not alot of time in real time but 15 minute's of straight grinding time or cutting time is alot for any size battery ive ever used small or big. Im an ironworker and these have become more common alomg with the cordless 4 1/2" grinders and we can stretch batteries out for a little while. Buy then again if we're running a grinder for that long were getting yelled at haha
Not necessarily. The amount of current drawn is influenced in part by the amount of load on the tool. The amount of power of the previous model was already absurd, and it was unlikely to get loaded up to it's full capacity in normal use. The new one is even less likely to get loaded up to the limit. In normal use it will probably behave very similar, but it's got a bit of extra headroom should you give it to it.
Holy Crap , a 12.0ah FlexVolt battery is $269.00 right now at Home Depo ,, you can buy another DCG418 FlexVolt Grinder KIT w/9.0ah battery for $290.00 , That's Crazy ...
A good price target is $10 / Ah for batteries. If you buy in kits, on sale, or open box, you can usually get them for around $12 / Ah, at least for Milwaukee's batteries (I realize this is a Dewalt video). The higher capacities tend to have higher markups even on sale, so I'd look for under $14 / Ah.
@@WorkshopAddict thank you. I know this Trump's Milwaukee since tool box buzz did a comparison, so between the new fuel and this and the metabo hpt if possible.
Nice review. Thanks for doing it. Looks like Dewalt is adopting the Apple way of doing business, i.e., upgrade and buy a new iPhone (in this case Flexvolt tool) every 2-3 years. Lol.
@@louischenvert7080 Since you asked Ohms Law tells us that current is directly preportional to voltage. This means if you triple the voltage you get one third the amps for the same amount of actual wattage being produced. Basically amp hours is a stupid way to measure battery capacity. Amps are only one part of the equation, you need at least two (for example amps and volts) to figure out how much actual energy there is in the battery. This is why watt/hours is a far more useful measurement because it is an actual unit of work done over time, volts, amps, ect don't even need to be considered. Basically the Flexvolt batteries have exactly the same amount of watt/hours in them regardless of what config they are being used in. Flexvolt is a marketing ploy for the most part, because the exact same amount of energy could be drawn from the battery in 20v mode, it just means you would get idiots frying small batteries by putting them on a 2300w saw or something. It's clever, but the performance has little to do with the extra voltage, because you can design a 20v motor that puts out the same power, and you most certainly do not lose battery capacity in 60v mode, you just put it on a tool that's designed to use 1800w, or 2300w instead of the 700w you might be using on a particularly powerful 20v tool. Of course the battery won't last as long, but that's because you are using more energy. Battery has a set amount of energy stored regardless. It doesn't change.
A S C E N D E D W H I T E M A L E Right. Without that long definition the point I was making is that regardless you are getting 180 max watts out of the battery. The 60v motor is just going to draw it a lot quicker. And the amp hour verbiage is simply because that’s how how the industry knows it.
How do you comment on this statment: "The DCG418 with a DCB609 battery has up to 30% more power vs. DCG414 with a DCB606". Does this mean, that DCG414 is equally powerful as DCG418 using a DCB609 battery?
@Foxtrot would be a weapon like 120v 9inch 2x60v or a new battery platform that is 120v or 110vcordless not all about volts current is what gives the power
I had a lot of old pipes and rebar to cut up and from what I read ruclips.net/user/postUgkxPDBfLu68o58Aw85O_J-zIFfjJARBhp-3 this would be the tool for the job. Since I had never used one, I watched a couple of youtube videos and I'm so glad I did. Some really good safety tips, which I followed, and this tool did a splendid job. One good thing to know is the weight of the tool puts just about the right amount of pressure on the metal I was cutting, so I didn't have to use a lot of pressure, which is more likely to jam the tool. It made fast work of my job.
No getting around the physics, but I think there’s a little bit more marketing than new tech going on here. From DeWalts website: “ **The DEWALT DCG418 with a DCB609 60V MAX* FLEXVOLT battery has up to 30% more power vs. DEWALT DCG414 with a DCB606 60V MAX* battery.” OK, what about if we put the 9.0 on the DCG414? I doubt there’s a 30% difference there.
You should get a noticable difference in power between different batteries regardless of the marketing BS. My old brushed 20v circ saw cuts about 50% faster with a 6ah Flexvolt on it. Battery size has a massive impact on performance with any tool.
@@Patrick-857 As someone who's used various battery sizes among the same tools and applications in the field, I absolutely agree. I often refer to my 5ah batteries as the "turbochargers", they make my old tired impact driver sound like a freaking turbocharged sumbeech when it drives fasteners compared to the 3ah because you can hear the motor over the impacting while using them. But when using the 3ah, you only hear the impacting instead of the motor and it's noticeably longer to drive screws. Endorsed.
@@somethingtrulyhorrifying Exactly. It's clearly apparent to someone who uses these tools for a living. The marketing from these companies is incredibly misleading.
Looks like they are going away from the 8 amp charger, going to a new 6 amp. The standard charger is 4 amp. I would say 8 amp is probably killing batteries fast.
A S C E N D E D W H I T E M A L E nah fast charming doesn’t do much harm. You just gotta make sure it’s not getting hot they can get toasty with a 12.0 on it.
@@henryk1031 Source: dude trust me. Lithium ion batteries are well known to deteriorate faster when you charge them fast. It's an established fact. Everything about battery technology is about tradeoffs.
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Hi Brian,
I don't own any flexvolt but this does look really good especially with the new technology motor. It's all about new and improve. Maybe the design didn't change but look at Skil circular saws. It's design hasn't change but the technology did.
I'm very happy that DeWalt is improving their 20v line with the power detect technology and new 21700 cells batteries.
All these companies are improving so much with their technology. I do like my cordless but i still can't let go of my corded tools yet, LOL...
First-thanks for your review. Wanted to see if there were any physical differences. Second-this can be a great tool for welders. Mostly in the field because you move around so much doing stuff not setup for a station. These 60v help a ton with keeping a mess of leads and cords untangled. If there’s a ton of grinding I’m digging for a corded 6” or even a 9 (8”). The hefty price tag doesn’t make it worth it to most. Third-take the handle off the grinder and grab the head. You can naturally place your body in a better position where you are not throwing sparks back at you. The only time I ever see someone use a handle is if they have a big wheel on and are grinding in a flat position. Lastly-be careful when applying max force with a tiger pad or an 1/8” wheel. They are not meant for that much downward pressure and are not pleasant when they come apart. Also-no strings on a hoodie.
I cut the strings off my hoodies for that reason.
As someone who uses a grinder like me as it is my most used tool next to an impact and drill and needs the portability to take it from 10 to 40 feet in the air I love the flexvolt grinder and other tools as well. Ever since flexvolt was released i havent touched a corded tool since on the job site. Now i do have 5 9ah and 1 12ah battery at this point but one main factor that was a game changer for strictly cordless is the 4 port fast charger. I cant kill batteries as fast as this charges them up even if i try. The big thing with the dcg414 is even if the runtime isnt the best like you say the amount of grinding and cutting that can be done in that period of time is far superior to any1 else. I also have the dcg413f with the flathead. I wish they did that model with the power detect as well. I will for sure get this dcg418 asap and sell my 414 to a co worker that always buys my used tools lol.
If you are willing to invest in batteries, you are correct, it is hard to beat this grinder.
I used the DCG414 for over a year now, my favorite tool I ever owned by far. I originally had 2 of the flexvolt batteries, when doing some heavy fab work, I'd occasionally run the battery down before the next one charged. Bought a third battery and I can work all day without having to worry about battery life.
I'm building armored trucks, having to climb all over and under the truck, compared to a corded grinder this probably saved me at 2 hours a day.The only problem I have with this grinder is that everyone in the shop is always trying to borrow it.
@Jack Braddell this is 2020 who wants to worry about a cord and every job is not a lift sometimes ladders. At least for me. Plus i got tons of other tools too not jus a grinder.
@Jack Braddell everybody got there preference. I make enough money (not saying you dont) and sitting comfortably to have all cordless and prefer the convenience. Not all jobs have power or some places nearest outlet has too many other things on it and just keep tripping breakers. The cordless tools (the right ones) nowadays provide the power of high end corded models.
@Jack Braddell yea retail price is ridiculous for cordless i stick with ebay for batteries and certain kits and promos can be a good value. I rarely pay retail price for anything power tool wise unless its coming with "free" tools or batteries i can sell or need. Except for this grinder kit only $50 extra for 9ah and charger
I agree with you 100% it’s great for small heavy duty jobs but not for large long term all day jobs unless you have 8 or more high output batteries to use during a 8 hour work day like contracting jobs
Picked this grinder kit today new for $150. this thing is HEAVY and hefty weight even without battery.
This is a MAN tool and the power! Jesus...
How did you get it so cheap?
Wow Brian, I didn't know they were upping the power on the flexvolt stuff like the 20v stuff, that grinder was already a beast, cant wait to try out the newer model. Thanks for the awesome video as always brother!!
Glad to help
@@WorkshopAddict an idea, Dewalt make a 120v adapter plug in for the flex volt grinder
I’m a welder and Pipefitter I stay corded for all day but when I’m doing small bore socket welds not butt welds. It’ll last awhile for 2” but anything over 3” with a bevel those grinders run through batteries.
Love my DCG414T2 man that is nice will defenitly pick up the new model DCG418X1
The Power Detect has plenty of power for my uses and the run time is great ...👍⚒🖖
Like the review. But what I use my cordless angle grinder for is small quick jobs. Might have to cut a piece of angle iron or something small. I use it with a sanding disc to buff stuff down and use a wire wheel to clean with too. It’s nice to have a cordless grinder to use on small stuff. I wouldn’t use it all day long because I would have to wait for the batteries to charge.
I wish I saw your video today . I just spent 800 Canadian dollars on a grinder kit plus two more 9amps batteries and I need 3 chargers to work . I was usning to sand a deck and batteries last about 10 minutes with out pressing down
For me my cordless grinder is a fairly specialized tool, sometimes. If I need to climb up the Side of a unit I can tie it to my back and just go, slap on the disk at the top and do the job. With a corded grinder that would be far more dangerous. Of if I need to go all around the factory doing little grinding jobs, the cordless is far better. There’s also a lot of situations where I need to just make a quick grind and it’s better to just use the cordless one rather than serching all corners of the globe for an extension cord.
HOWEVER, when I know I’m doing a lot of grinding in one place I always pull out the corded grinder and hunt down an extension cord.
Also, unforeseen plus, I can charge my watch and phone off my used grinder batteries. Like even if it won’t run my grinder it’ll still charge my phone for a while. That was once the difference between having and not having a navigation system for my drive home in the rain.
Looks very good! 4:20 The spark-rain proves the power!
Great review Brian bought the DCG414 back when it came out just my luck dewalt coming out with more power guess I'll have to put the brakes on when purchasing new tools
The grinder is a strong as a lawnmower an average one how long you expected to run with a little battery And you’re 100% right as in the way I see it too it’s not worth upgrading because the other ones plenty strong if you already have it but if you don’t it’s worth buying the Better one
Solid review, great channel....I almost never upgrade unless a tool is twice as good as the older version. I do love my flexvolt grinder....👍🇺🇸
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Lots of things are 13 amps.
It's equivalent to a 1500-1700 "WATT" grinder.
2.2hp is 1650w btw.
This is one of the tools that I don't think will replace corded at least not for awhile, they are good for small jobs but that's it
Roger that, unless you invest in a large amount of batteries, you are correct. They are battery eating machines that provide awesome power and mobility at a cost.
Review for the 9”? Dewalt
Nice honest review
All of these are very good.but i see that with all this power this as the previous model sould have an adjustment switch so for you to want a little bit more gentle power!!!that is olny i see that lacks from these horsepower units.also i think that the new power detect tools have more "value for money" as the are a little step down in power but with greater runtime and has the versatility to put a flexvolt battery with even more runtime....Hi from Greece and stay at home....🙏🙏🙏
An eco mode would be nice!
@@WorkshopAddict 👌👌👌👌👌👌
I like this info you are giving here in this video, can you also put up links to the tools video that you done in the past as you are mentioning them . thanks
Great idea, I should be doing that.
You think a DCB612 12.0ah would be better for this grinder?
Runs better on the dcb609. New technology in the motor of the grinder with the new 21700 batteries in the 9 amp make a perfect pair. I've seen it myself on the jobsite. I also own one of these and 3 9ah batteries myself. It's both powerful and effective. I'm a welder by trade by the way. Still not totally sold on cordless grinders because of the power they use but with the 9ah they seem to do the best
What will be it's Runtime using on wall grooving with 6 inch marble/concrete cutting disc?
Love it very much,it'll be my next buy with the dcs389 sawzall
Are the New Flexvolt batteries running the 21700 cells or still using the 18650s?
9 and 12 have the 21700
@@WorkshopAddict that's awesome thanks for the information
Love your honest reviews man
I appreciate that!
Hello, in my country, Dewalt are made in China. do you know if they are good tools or they have any difference. Thanks a lot for the advice.
Like the new battery design
I really want a dcg414 DeWalt brushless flex volt 60 angle grinder but for now I have the metabo g12sr
What do you think for using it to cut tiles with one hand. I use makita, will this be to powerfull for tiling
I do not have teh experience to answer this. If a good high end 15 amp corded grinder is too much power, than this will be too. Hope that helps.
If you are stationary as in a shop situation a corded grinder is great as are most high drain tools .
for moor run just saw on homdepot web site flexvolt 15amp battery for wopping $350
Love that cordless power the dewalt has like even tho im a makita fan
Excelente información, pensaba comprarlo pero ya veo que no es el indicado para mí. Muchas Gracias.
Great video! Finally some good feed backk😢😮
You were about to say with that power comes great responsibility went you around the six minute mark huh lol
LOL. Should have.
When will the dcg418 be available for the public? Ive been dying for it ever since it was announced lol
It has an April release date, but with all this mayhem, it could be a touch later.
This is exciting. I have the regular one and out of my 11 grinders, it's my favorite. Very smooth runner. But not sure I want to spend that much on another one, even if it is this nice. maybe if I find a sale in the next few months.
Only if dewalt can straighten that angle on the battery mount so we can stand the grinder up..
@@keithgreen3257 Until I read your comment, I wouldn't have noticed that until the first time I use one and go to sit it down like my drills and oscillating tool, lol.
They need to come up w variable speed 60v tool. Granite slab fabrication here.... I'd jump on the opportunity to purchase one if it had the variable speed dial.
The 1106 Charger is decent. Its a 6 Amp charger. It will have you charged and working faster than the model 112 (2amps) or model 115 (4Amp).
Bought this model & returned it due to short battery time & went back to my 13amp corded Dewalt
You probably bought the model this one replaced. This one comes out in a few weeks.
Uses even more wattage; very short run tume
For brushless grinder do you suggest dewalt or metabo
Both are good, pick one that you have the most batteries in.
Need to grind some cement any suggestions on which wheel to get?
Thanks
Corded makita with diamond wheel for concrete.
Thank you for this video
Does it have the variable speed?? Been looking for DeWalt cordless angle grinder with variable speed
This one does not.
@@WorkshopAddict any cordless DeWalt that does?
How can i buy one? How much its cost sir
If you put on a 20v battery do you get less power and more run time?
FlexVolt tools do not accept 20 volt batteries. 20-Volt tools will accept FlexVolt batteries. FlexVolt Advantage tools are 20 volt tools, not 60. FlexVolt tools are 60-Volt tools. Clear as mud?
I find myself not using my corded grinders near as much now that I have the flexvolt and my Ridgid grinders. I keep a flap disc on the Ridgid and almost always use it when I'm fabbing up stuff. It is so nice not to have to have an extension cord tangled up in my leads.
Maybe I missed it in the other video, but could you sometime explain/compare the differences between flexvolt and power detect? It has me scratching my head.
That is coming, but it is pretty simple. Power detect is a 20 volt only platform and it can tell the difference between 20-volt batteries and what amps they can produce. They can use FV batteries like any other 20 volt tool. Flexvolt tools can only use 60 volt FV batteries.
@@WorkshopAddict If I remember right the flexvolt didn't give as much power on the power detect as a comparable 20v, is that right?
@@leemarchant7191 Comes down to the newer cells being able to put out more current.
Which one of the 9ah batteries is the newer version?
not enough run time for me but very nice
Your confusing me, say 15 mins of runtime on this with a 9ah and 10mins on the power detect with 8ah but then say the power detect has long runtime. Also say old test is 3.5mins runtime but the new one gains not much runtime. Very contradictory. Love your channel btw, from a fellow Michigan resident keep it up!
First, the old test was purely grinding. So the runtime was short at 3.5 mins. Battery op grinders are not great long term grinding machines. The Flexvolt 9.0 Ah battery is 3P so it has 15 cells and will last longer than the XR 8.0 Ah battery that is 2P and has 10 cells. Just how the test worked out.
Would this grinder do good with maybe the 9 or 12 ah batteries in grinding down concrete for leveling floors?
It would work well in small areas, yes. Runtime will be around 7 minutes without a rest grinding hard.
No good for dust. Ruined mine after 2 months
@@ELITEWELDER1 Thats a short life.
@@WorkshopAddict it’s due to it not having a date engraved ? What does that mean?
DCB414 motor smoked and is now just a battery holder with leads for whatever I need 60v dc for? Lol start the truck!
I know its not alot of time in real time but 15 minute's of straight grinding time or cutting time is alot for any size battery ive ever used small or big. Im an ironworker and these have become more common alomg with the cordless 4 1/2" grinders and we can stretch batteries out for a little while. Buy then again if we're running a grinder for that long were getting yelled at haha
Can you try with the 15ah battery pls, (if is possible) we want se the Rane time.
thanks from Canada. 👍
The 15 amp hour battery works. Didn't I give the runtime per amp hour in the video?
Man I really want one
When will the dcg418 54v be released in europe/Holland?
out now
think dewalt would ever offer a retro-fit kit? like send it in, they swap the electronics and send it back from a nominal fee.
Highly unlikely they would update a motor and all the internals for you for less cost than just buying a new one.
So does 30% more power = 30% less runtime
No, has about the same runtime.
Not necessarily. The amount of current drawn is influenced in part by the amount of load on the tool. The amount of power of the previous model was already absurd, and it was unlikely to get loaded up to it's full capacity in normal use. The new one is even less likely to get loaded up to the limit. In normal use it will probably behave very similar, but it's got a bit of extra headroom should you give it to it.
How does it compare to Milwaukees 4-6" ?
DeWalt has more power by a good amount.
Thanks
They should put a speed changer on them , for longer use if u Don't need that All power!...
Agree!
Holy Crap , a 12.0ah FlexVolt battery is $269.00 right now at Home Depo ,, you can buy another DCG418 FlexVolt Grinder KIT w/9.0ah battery for $290.00 , That's Crazy ...
A good price target is $10 / Ah for batteries. If you buy in kits, on sale, or open box, you can usually get them for around $12 / Ah, at least for Milwaukee's batteries (I realize this is a Dewalt video). The higher capacities tend to have higher markups even on sale, so I'd look for under $14 / Ah.
This or the power detect?.
Runtime on just polishing
Power detect seems to run longer.
60v power detect can’t utilize only 20.2 is full charge 20v it has 3 of em in one pack clearly it’ll run longer weak
Can you compare this to the metabo hpt one? Is getting so confusing to follow which grinder now has what power lol
This trumps Metabo HPT but Metabo HPT probably has a runtime advantage. I will see if I can get something up to show it soon.
@@WorkshopAddict thank you. I know this Trump's Milwaukee since tool box buzz did a comparison, so between the new fuel and this and the metabo hpt if possible.
Going from 2.2HP to 3.0HP is actually 36.3% increase ;-)
I am using Dewalts numbers.... Besides, we all know neither of these are 2 or 3 hp..... Those are peak numbers.
Hi what is the difference between these two and the XR model DCG413 ? Thank you 🙏
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Nice review. Thanks for doing it. Looks like Dewalt is adopting the Apple way of doing business, i.e., upgrade and buy a new iPhone (in this case Flexvolt tool) every 2-3 years. Lol.
To be fair the battery is only a 3 amp hour in the 60v motor. It’s a true 9 amp hour in a 20v tool.
Ah yes, another idiot that doesn't understand Ohms Law.
A S C E N D E D W H I T E M A L E enlighten me please
@@louischenvert7080 Since you asked Ohms Law tells us that current is directly preportional to voltage. This means if you triple the voltage you get one third the amps for the same amount of actual wattage being produced.
Basically amp hours is a stupid way to measure battery capacity. Amps are only one part of the equation, you need at least two (for example amps and volts) to figure out how much actual energy there is in the battery. This is why watt/hours is a far more useful measurement because it is an actual unit of work done over time, volts, amps, ect don't even need to be considered.
Basically the Flexvolt batteries have exactly the same amount of watt/hours in them regardless of what config they are being used in.
Flexvolt is a marketing ploy for the most part, because the exact same amount of energy could be drawn from the battery in 20v mode, it just means you would get idiots frying small batteries by putting them on a 2300w saw or something. It's clever, but the performance has little to do with the extra voltage, because you can design a 20v motor that puts out the same power, and you most certainly do not lose battery capacity in 60v mode, you just put it on a tool that's designed to use 1800w, or 2300w instead of the 700w you might be using on a particularly powerful 20v tool. Of course the battery won't last as long, but that's because you are using more energy. Battery has a set amount of energy stored regardless. It doesn't change.
A S C E N D E D W H I T E M A L E Right. Without that long definition the point I was making is that regardless you are getting 180 max watts out of the battery. The 60v motor is just going to draw it a lot quicker. And the amp hour verbiage is simply because that’s how how the industry knows it.
My 9ah flexvolt batteries never lasted very long in my tools, It almost seems like my 6ah flexvolt batteries last almost just as long as the 9s
Glad it works for you! That is what counts!
How do you comment on this statment: "The DCG418 with a DCB609 battery has up to 30% more power vs. DCG414 with a DCB606". Does this mean, that DCG414 is equally powerful as DCG418 using a DCB609 battery?
Wow very nice i love your video this grinder looks powerfull as fuck i will upgrade sure
C'mon dewalt, release a 9" model
Yeah, and double up the batteries for 120 volt like their cordless miter saw ;)
They have a 9in cut off saw
Snake Plissken that bitch would be heavy!? 😂 then use the 120 ac/dc converter too!
@Foxtrot would be a weapon like 120v 9inch 2x60v or a new battery platform that is 120v or 110vcordless not all about volts current is what gives the power
I had a lot of old pipes and rebar to cut up and from what I read ruclips.net/user/postUgkxPDBfLu68o58Aw85O_J-zIFfjJARBhp-3 this would be the tool for the job. Since I had never used one, I watched a couple of youtube videos and I'm so glad I did. Some really good safety tips, which I followed, and this tool did a splendid job. One good thing to know is the weight of the tool puts just about the right amount of pressure on the metal I was cutting, so I didn't have to use a lot of pressure, which is more likely to jam the tool. It made fast work of my job.
Not worried about run time just get an extra Battery
Pretty sad when the battery is 2x the cost of the tool
So,runtime is its enemy
Exactly
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No getting around the physics, but I think there’s a little bit more marketing than new tech going on here. From DeWalts website: “ **The DEWALT DCG418 with a DCB609 60V MAX* FLEXVOLT battery has up to 30% more power vs. DEWALT DCG414 with a DCB606 60V MAX* battery.” OK, what about if we put the 9.0 on the DCG414? I doubt there’s a 30% difference there.
I discuss this a bit more on Mondays Video.
You should get a noticable difference in power between different batteries regardless of the marketing BS. My old brushed 20v circ saw cuts about 50% faster with a 6ah Flexvolt on it. Battery size has a massive impact on performance with any tool.
@@WorkshopAddict Any link to this video?
@@Patrick-857 As someone who's used various battery sizes among the same tools and applications in the field, I absolutely agree. I often refer to my 5ah batteries as the "turbochargers", they make my old tired impact driver sound like a freaking turbocharged sumbeech when it drives fasteners compared to the 3ah because you can hear the motor over the impacting while using them. But when using the 3ah, you only hear the impacting instead of the motor and it's noticeably longer to drive screws. Endorsed.
@@somethingtrulyhorrifying Exactly. It's clearly apparent to someone who uses these tools for a living. The marketing from these companies is incredibly misleading.
So they give you a 9 ah battery but take the fast charger out of the kit.
that might tell you that the fast charger is not working well for battery life? who knows.
True. I avoid using the fast charger if I can sometimes you just need it though.
Looks like they are going away from the 8 amp charger, going to a new 6 amp. The standard charger is 4 amp. I would say 8 amp is probably killing batteries fast.
A S C E N D E D W H I T E M A L E nah fast charming doesn’t do much harm. You just gotta make sure it’s not getting hot they can get toasty with a 12.0 on it.
@@henryk1031 Source: dude trust me.
Lithium ion batteries are well known to deteriorate faster when you charge them fast. It's an established fact. Everything about battery technology is about tradeoffs.
Shitty grinder! Bought one used it for a couple weeks and now it just shutters and does not turn on! Waste of money!
This battery time on a expensive 9ah battery sold me...dont buy...TY!
Which one of the 9ah flexvolt battery is the newer version?