Since people like talk about back in the day players were plumbers and firemen I guess we can call this generation flight attendants with all the traveling they be doing 😂😂😂😂😂
Part of this comes from the NBA letting people into the league with minimal to no collegiate or semi-pro/international play experience. These high schooler baby-phenoms don't have experience following rules. Almost every rule change, written and unwritten, for decades has been about making it easier to score and because scoring is up after scoring has been catered to for decades, "Hey look, there's more points, more points=more betterer! We're blessed to be watching SUPERIOR ATHLETES." LMAO.
I have thought for years that one major thing I liked about Jordan's dunks in the dunk contest is they would be legal in a game. I have always found unsatisfying dunk contest dunks that couldn't legally be done in a game. Other people might not care, but it just doesn't mean much in my mind because my mind says, "That isn't real basketball". Just like trampoline dunk do nothing for me. A side note, I mention that a player's high scoring game is greatly diminished as an accomplishment in my mind if his/her team loses the game. Similarly, in my mind, the greatest pass doesn't mean much if the person getting the ball doesn't score or passes to someone who fails to score. While not as diminished if the failure to score on the pass was due to being fouled, the beauty and coolness of the pass is still much diminished.
If they actually wanted to fix the issue, they should enforce "control" right after the ball last touches the ground. This is what I had drilled into me 30 years ago: you dribble *hard* low and close, so the ball actually pushes upwards against your palm and that is how you control it without carrying it. These days they train to dribble high and soflty, so that while the ball is floating spinning in mid-air, close to a player, he can run alongside it and claim that he did not have "control." Even while he clearly *does* have enough control to grab it or pass it, because that is what he does after after several steps. (I find this extremely difficult because it goes against everything I learned about playing basketball, but I guess it is easy if this is how you start) You have a perfect example at 1:35 with OKC number 14: the first two numbered steps he is not even touching the ball. Steps 3-4 the ball is still spinning against his palm. And even after all that he still travels. This is how Harden started: he'd pull the ball backwards and do his famous stepback *alongside* the ball, without actually grabbing it hard until the end. Which, if you can do it while dribbling forward, should also be legal sideways or backward. But then he started grabbing it earlier and earlier until he's doing four-five steps like you show in this video. I'm not talking about LeBron and Westbrook taking the inbound ball and walking with it for half the court. That is just silly, but it can be defended *a little* by saying they got no advantage from it. And because these two loopholes exist and are accepted, the players feel justified to just pick up the ball and walk. And the refs let them.
@AngryOldHoops I think that you've marked the steps incorrectly in the Larry Bird moment at 9:00. The step that you've marked as 1 (left foot) is actually the gather step and after that Larry takes two steps (right, left) but you somehow count them as one.
Lebrons foot work sooo bad. He is already huge, and can jump. Yet you need to let him take 4 steps non stop. I personally understand jump stops, euro steps, and hesitate dribble. I'm fine with that. Lebrons 4 steps. Two hands on ball is just dumb.
its funny how mjaculators act like nba refs, execs, and players did not come out and say the rules were changed for jordan, everything was a foul for jordan if he wanted it, etc. but its also funny how you bronsexuals think the same thing aint happen with bron. yall getting brainwashed by the media too think these two are any good the real goat is kareem 1 kareem 2 kobe 3 magic 4 bird 5 wilt 6 mj/bron 7 mj/bron 8 bill 9 shaq 10 steph
@@danycjones1325 who tf are you calling son everybody knew about the jordan rule damn near made it a 1v1 throughout every game could barely double team 😂
@@sway9427 son, instead of deflecting, answer his question. FYI the Jordan rules were made to STOP Jordan. People like you crack me up....just talking to talk, but actually you're saying nothing at all.
This is the biggest reason why I LOL hard when these time-machine idiots talk about dropping modern players back into the 60's so they could "average 100ppg." Drop any one of these guys into the 60's and they get called for traveling EVERY.SINGLE.POSSESSION. The ref$ were MILITANT about calling traveling back then. Now they don't call shit. It's a joke
Fouls were even more strict back in the 60’s and 70’s.Especially offensive fouls.You couldn’t initiate contact on drives.Refs back then allowed a minimal amount.Players couldn’t go barging into defenders like Lebron.I recently watched the Lakers vs Knicks finals games and was really caught off guard at the foul calls.
The rule never changed, but refs got an email from Adam silver, telling them that those brats can not play by the rules, if they called travels and carries, the scoring leader would have 20 ppg. This is the absolute worst era of basketball, skill wise, competition wise, mentality wise and team play in general, the game has been dumbed down, and it stopped being a perfectly designed competitive sport that is also a business, and it became a business that is mediocre entertainment at best. The last true competitive years ended with Kobe, Dirk and Tim.
Kobe used to do that stop, grab the ball with 2 hands and then continue dribbling a LOT, I would even say he made it popular, go watch Kobe's travel against Spain that was uncalled, he used to do that same travel all the time.
People underestimate the advantage this gives to the player on offense. How's the defender supposed to jump to contest the shot at the right time when he does not know how many steps the player attacking the rim is going to take?
Look at where MJ starts rising up after his second step, his so far from the rim. Players can't take off that far, that's why they take 3 steps to rise closer to the rim. That alone proves no one in the league right now is close to the athleticism MJ had.
@@Marlowe10100just ask any bron fan the players r so athletic today that mj would just basically b derozen😂 I've actually had ppl say that to me. Beyond nonsense right? Downright hilarious.
@@devinpoole4528 i've tried to explain to people that MJ mastered getting to the rim by getting around defenders with his dribble and smart manipulation of defenders. And that was when defenders could be all over you. Today he could get to the rim all day without anyone really contesting him.
Actually not that controversial. His ex teammate Iman shumpert said that same thing LeBron ruined basketball by the super team hopping. He and his friends in the media made it seem normal.
Not all the time, he did travelled ocassionally but it's obvious that he mostly tried to play by the rules. On the other hand , Lebron and the current players do travel all the time.@@idkidk2573
@@Elver99Gudonyou only gotta watch him for more than the highlights reels dude. He travelled a lot. He carried a lot. He got ghost fouls called all the time. He was when the rot started coz they wanted to push the marketting.
PLEASE do a similar video for "stepback moves", which are almost all three steps (except Harden's which are four). Long range shooting is a lot easier when you can cheat.
it’s always the same ~3 travels the harden haters show/mention. I’d be willing to bet you guys can’t find 5 or so instances of harden traveling at all during his entire Houston career (stopped watching him after so I can’t speak on his recent years). harden had exquisite footwork unlike lebron.
They don't call it because they are not willing to lose their job. It's no more sport but entertaining while in fact it's boring when you actually know the rules.
if you spent any amount of time playing basketball at all, when you take more than 2 steps it just feels WRONG/WEIRD. Even watching someone travel something weird jumps out at you. So people defending these travel calls nowadays, are either blind, or have never touched a basketball.
THAT IS SO EFFING SPOT ON ! I GET THE SAME FEELING SEEING A PLAYER TRAVEL! IT LOOKS LIKE A GLITCH OR SOMETHING ! YOU FEEL IT IN YOUR BODY IN A WAY....MAY SOUND STRANGE BUT ITS TRUE- I WOULD IMAGINE ONLY FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE PLAYED A LOT
You are allowed to lift your pivot foot off the ground as long as you shoot or pass the ball before putting it back ont je ground. That's according to current NBA rules, FIBA rules and that's also according to the 1980s NBA rules and FIBA rules. This is not a new rule, it is just that most American guards didn't use it and most Americans think it is a travel even though it has been a legal play since more than 40 years.
You know I hear lebron fans say that we are gonna miss lebron when he is gone. What has lebron done for basketball to be missed? I've seen his whole career and I don't remember anything special. Larry and magic saved the nba, and MJ made it global. He also made the average person wanna watch the games. What did lebron do? Thats an honest question.
They needed to change the rules because players like LeBron with limited skill wouldn't survive, plus traveling can be hard to call. It is however frustrating when you see players (like LeFraud) incorrectly use the gather step and no longer getting called for taking 3 steps...brings the integrity of league into question, like how many points would Lebron really have if they didn't let him constantly take three steps?
Lebron played one season in the handcheck era, his rookie year. And he shot 41.7%. Then the new rules opened up the game and of course his stats got better evey year. His rookie year is probably a small indication of what he would do in Jordan's era, but he has the rookie year, out of HS excuse so we'll likely never know what prime Lebron would do under rules of the past.
LeBron hate I can respect. But one thing that is lost in all the haterade is that players can hardly tell when to challenge the shots anymore especially layups cause when does the dribbling end? Does it ever end? Makes defense extremely difficult even if you have the skill & desire to do it.
I think that’s a given. Of course they can’t tell when to challenge the shot when the ref may or may not give them an extra step or even an extra dribble after picking up the ball
The foot where you had to gather... thats the same foot where you should take off. Its so simple but this new hoopers just takes the game for granted. keep safe always Angry Old hoops Fan. you are a gem.✌
@@idkidk2573yes, no one is perfect. MJ had some uncalled travels too, but it was mostly pretty minor stuff and you really had to go and slow down the film to see it. Mostly just a small sliding or lifting of his pivot foot. And actually some of these got called when in today's NBA it's just zero chance for something like that to be called. LBJ meanwhile travels at every game and some of the travels are plain ridiculous like taking 3, 4 or even 5 steps, walking with the ball, picking up the ball and then continuing dribbling. Please show me a video where MJ travels like that. LeBron has 15 minute compilations of outrageous uncalled travels. The dude ruined the NBA.
Thank you for this video. I have said this before always fact-check what an LBJ fan says no matter what! After the LBJ tantrum game, I didn't fact-check what someone said about it. Dude said that called a Gather step, and I asked a friend did they change the rules or something so I took it at face value. Then My Man angry hoops fans come out today in the clutch with some hardcore facts. Now I am like I knew I should have fact checked that sht. The game has changed so much that its easy to believe some BS based on what you are watching. If a Lebron James fan in the media or on social media says something ALWAY FACT, CHECK IT! Because they are LIARS
Basketball is hard to watch nowadays. Tuned into a warriors game last week and it was just jordan Poole carrying and chucking 3s. It's no wonder players are dropping points at a record clip. Between defense becoming an afterthought. All the rules to increase pace of play and allow dribbling violations. It's hardly basketball.
If NBA starts forcing strict rules about traveling, only a handful of players will be able to play.. most of them are used to how it's being played nowadays
Thank you for this video. I have a hard time watching the NBA today because there is a traveling violation or palming and carrying the ball violation on virtually every possession. If possible next time show the outrageous "step backs" that are allowed today where players are lifting both feet and hopping backwards. What is sad is that kids today are learning all these same habits and the rules of the game are being ignored. This is a direct result of street ball and players finding ways to cheat without referees being present because when your team loses you have to sit until the next game and players today are too selfish and weak to admit their team lost so lying and cheating have become prevalent.
When I was playing basketball in the streets all of those travels and carries that NBA players do would be called travels by the opposing team. Basketball for fun was with much stricter rules than today's NBA.
I have been saying this since Lebron came into the league. It stands out so much and is so obvious, your eyes pick it up even in real time because something looks off. I used to think Ewing was bad but, Lebron has taken it to another level. He is the King of Steps! If they enforced the rules and called the obvious traveling and offensive fouls he commits Lebron wouldn’t have half the points he has now. The NBA and the refs purposely ignore it because they marketed him as the face of the league and doing so would hurt their product.
The gater step rule was introduced by the FIBA in 2019 to protect American players(allowed to take one step when getting the ball IN MOTION and BEFORE they INITIATE the dribble, NEVER DURING or AT THE END of the dribble) from embarrassment in international competitions. A year later the nba and some "stars" with the help of the media clowns, twisted the rule to basically allow TRAVEL at any point during the dribble, BUT, if you read the travel rules, they REMAIN THE SAME, after you finish the dribble (gaining control of the ball, this is your last ball bounce in any serious basketball competition) TWO STEPS (one each feet) TWO STEPS (one feet + two feets landing at the same time) or TWO STEPS ( two at he same time + Pivot) TWO STEPS no mather what. For instance, the commonly used reverse layup the way nba players do it IS TRAVEL ALLWAYS.
Obviously it isn't that there was a third step that players could gave taken advantage of in the old days! When they took that step (and refs caught it) they were called for travelling.
The NBA has told it's officials to not enforce the rules so there can be more scoring. It's that simple. NBA players have never had it easier. The jump stomp is another ridiculous thing that's been incorporated into the game that has never made sense.
Been watching since the 90s. Last year I skipped watching the entire regular season and playoffs.. only watched game 5&6 of the Finals. NBA is now Disneyfied trash
Ok, so… I’m 40. I’m also EXTREMELY bothered by the modern interpretation of the rules, but, the first 5 minutes of this video are dedicated towards the gather while receiving the ball while pointing out examples of “gathering” or picking up, the dribble. In the old days, if you caught the ball, and started running without dribbling, it was a travel at 2 steps. That was bad officiating cuz they didn’t understand the rules. The modern officiating allow a gather “step” after picking up the dribble that becomes 4-5 steps cuz they also don’t understand the rules. Long story short: NBA officiating nowadays is taught to not penalize offense, cuz casual fans love offense. It’ll always drive me crazy, but I accept it. What drives ME crazy is that highschoolers are taught to do it now.
Makes me facepalm watching people argue gather step and travels. I've seen games since 2001 and never have I seen this level of traveling. James Harden, Lebron James, Jordan Poole, and sadly, my man Steph.
A defender locks down the handle but the handle travels/walks to create more space. After the ball stop & pivot, the defender knows after 2 steps, it's either pass or shoot. The refs dont care if its LeTravel James, hes the greatest actor, so let him slide, flop, choke, travel, walk & complain if the call doesnt go his way. I've seen LJ throw air balls, missed layups, missed slam dunks, losing his handle of the ball...mostly uncontested, untouched...after these sloppy embarrassments, lequeen blames the opposing team. He was a great, talented player for the first 8 years. You'd think his skill sets would improve over time? He ends up relying on sloppy play and his team to carry him. A true GOAT doesnt resort to play & compete like that to win! Hes not even in my top 10 players of all time! He almost was there but not anymore. 😂
yes, why didnt all the NBA players never take more than 2 steps and why did all the refs forever always call traveling when anyone took more than 2 steps???
My dad played in the 40s and 50s. He experience was anything not on the exact top of the ball when dribbling was a carry which is why the game was all weave and passing. Relaxing the rule to the top part of the ball allowed for the point guard to advance and drive the ball. Even what Isiah was doing in these examples was a carry in the early 50s. Today, they are allowed to just flat out carry and walk. I like the Mavs but Jason Terry used to drive me crazy, he carried every dribble every game, all game. I stopped watching NBA in 2011. You can certainly look more athletic when steps and carry don't matter. Every time I flip it on to check it out, its a clown show now. Unwatchable crap.
You weren’t getting away with any sort of traveling back in the Jordan era. That’s yet another reason why if Mike played today he’d easily average 50. Wilt would average whatever he wanted. Shaq would shoot 40 free throws a game. Todays nba is a joke
I agree with everything you said. It's ridiculous how the pros and even college players get away with traveling and even palmimg the ball. They're not playing by the rules.
I'm no fan of LeBron, but help me understand. @12:14 when LeBron dribbles the ball, you seem to be calling that step the gather step, the step where the ball and the foot are hitting the ground at the same time, but according to the rules the gather doesn't occur until the ball comes to a rest, both hands touch it or there is a pause right? I would say the very next step @12:18, where his right foot hits the ground and he places both hands on the ball, the gather step. Then it's left foot, right foot and launch. Doesn't look like a travel to me from this angle. @12:54 against the Hornets that was DEFINITELY a travel!
Compare it to the footage I show later of the old days. That’s the same step they previously considered a gather step. Whatever you want to call it, it’s more steps than anyone took before.
@@AngryOldHoops None of the examples from the old footage show that the gather is when the ball is on the floor, it's not the point when the dribble is considered to be over. It's the point when a player gains control of the ball thus ending the dribble. There's no way 12:17 (left foot on the floor) can be considered a "gather", how do you know that he's not going to keep dribbling? Only the next step (right foot on the floor) is the point where he gains control of the ball, and after that he takes two steps. Let's be fair, this one is absolutely NOT a travel.
I don't like Lebron much, but 1:40 is not a travel. He grabs the ball with two hands at first, he is not dribbling...then he takes a step to his left and dribbles.
@@spaciousgrace3816 yea the people that believe lebron is the most skilled basketball player have no idea about basketball or sports in general they are most likely not athletes themselves, lol either way, we who speak the truth are labeled the crazy ones, sad
@9:02 the step you labeled #1 for Bird I believe was actually his gather step with the left foot. His right foot should be step #1 which takes place @9:06 followed by step #2 @9:08.
you have explained it so well, but those unbelievers would still find ways to disagree. It is just too sad that players and even superstars do not respect the game as the greats before them did. all they care about is abusing the game.
What I've seen argued is that the gather step when a player picks up the ball isn't the first 0 step. Its like a negative zero. Then when they put the second hand on the ball THAT'S the gather/zero step, but the negative zero in that case could be called a carry, so they're allowing like a carry and a travel, which is breaking the game.
Look at where MJ starts rising up after his second step, his so far from the rim. Players can't take off that far, that's why they take 3 steps to rise closer to the rim. That alone proves no one in the league right now is close to the athleticism MJ had.
Yes, you need more steps when you're not athletic enough to dunk from distance. Or when you don't have enough skills to escape defenders in two steps. It's like playing (American) football where defenders are not allowed to touch you.
The NBA today is just unwatchable for me, and i dont care who disagrees with me. The refs are aweful and are extremely sensitive. Players barely play defense. The mid-range game is all but dead. The way they are allowed to cary and travel is beyond ridiculous! I started watching basketball in the 70s. This stuff now is hot garbage! Im out!
Nba refs mysteriously started allowing this once I stopped playing. They called one long step a travel when I played. They called Dominique jump stop a travel back then.
Your anger has rubbed on me coz I played ball and took it to heart and we always checked our dribbling and got called for overhead dribbling, illegal dribble (double dribble), jumping (yes, we did not incorporate pro-hop in our games). Pump fakes were enough. Now this generation is justifying carrying the ball. What's the purpose of practice? Is it hard to carry the ball? Hell no!
Imagine Wilt Chamberlain playing today? With the current traveling rules? The soft, play? His teams would literally go undefeated averaging 100 points a game.
actually nba and fiba redefined travelling rules around 2018. so now you get to take a step (gather or 0), pick up your dribble and take 2 more steps. before 2018 gather or 0 step wasnt a thing so 1st step occurred when you picked up your dribble.
60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, if u took more than one and a half ( 2 steps ), it was everything...u sucked if you took 3 steps and it was a travel, and if you tried to defend your actions, get off the court
Whatever these guys are playing now, IT AIN’T NBA Basketball. It’s truly a joke. And SAD on top of it. The game was EXCITING & GREAT. Now, it’s no different that middle schoolers who can dunk.
There are two sets of rules in any rulea based society - the rules as written, and the rules as applied. For professionals like Lebron, who want to win, it's ruleset [2] that matters, and that they follow. Why do they interpret the rules differently now? The NBA believes it will create a more exciting game with lots of scoring, so that more people watch, so that their TV deals command more money.
If you search for "gather steps in 90s NBA", you could also get a lot of video that how NBA players at the past using the Zero steps, including MJ. There are people traveling crazily nowadays, but does not means this rules is wrong, just the rule at the past is not clear so people seldom use it (or they won't let you know the tricks). Joey Crawford already explained, it is because in a transition movement it is just difficult to determine what is "gather a ball", and so this updated rule is to clarify the things. People traveling crazily now (even they already took more than 012 steps) and don't get a call, that's the problem from the referee, not the rules. And I think this is what hurting today's NBA. Even nowadays you will also find lots of players using the old 12 steps, at the end is just all depends on if the move is spontaneously smooth or not.
This is the first generation to shit on the players that came before. When I was coming up, the players we heard so much about, were viewed as mythical figures. When we heard about the older players having second jobs outside of playing professional sports, it only raised our level of respect for them. It was like “wow, this guy has two jobs and he’s still the best in the world.” Today we have legions of geniuses who genuinely believe greatness only became a thing after they were brought into this world.
I don't blame today's players for taking advantage of this because it's the league's issue to solve. but don't tell me that today's NBA is more enjoyable to watch than the 90s and 80s
All sports are entertainment and the rules in all of them are for the future fans, that are playing video games of these sports. Thus a football receiver can’t be touched, basketball players can’t be touched ( hand checking) They even changed the Hockey rules and baseball has done something with the balls & time.
Maybe because how many of us were raised playing were we called our own fouls and traveling and carrying...even when called for it, you knew if you took a third step not to argue😂
IF THEY DON’T CALL IT THEN LEBRON IS ACTUALLY SMART TO USE THIS TO HIS ADVANTAGE. THE REFS SHOULD FUCKIN CALL TRAVELLING ON EVERYONE IN THE LEAGUE! This is BS
This is the reason why team USA is not the dominant team in fiba world because fiba rules aren’t soft as the NBA rules 😂Btw the ones dominating in NBA are gianis, Luka and jokic this players are playing in fiba rules back then
8:59 is a pretty bad example. You counted the 1 when Larry's LEFT foot hit the ground, then you counted 2 when Larry's LEFT foot hit the ground again. Do I even have to explain why that's wrong?
At 9:00 that is straight lying. He took 3 steps and we all know it lmao. Not a huge basketball fan nor do I think LeBron James is nearly as good as Jordan from what I've seen and what I know...but you don't have to lie to prove a point. This guy's acting as if Bird took his first and 2nd step with his left foot and his right foot never even touched the ground from the moment he takes the first step all the way until after he lands from the dunk LOL.
Seems like the clip against the clippers bron didnt travel. It looks clean to me. He is counting the gather step even though the ball was on the ground being dribbled. Just look at when he puts his hand under and grabs the ball with both hands. Simultaneous with the step. I would call that the gather and then 1 2 and foul. Got to give this one to bron. Doesn’t mean he doesn’t travel 90% of the times
I hate to say it, but you're wrong about that Lebron vs Celtics clip. His gather step is the step you labeled as 1 (12:20) . That's when he gathered the ball in two hands. The ball was still traveling up to his hands when he took the step before.
I really wish the nba would just admit they changed the rules for these “superstars” and put it in The rule books at 3 steps. 4 steps becomes a foul with shots and 5 steps is a flagrant 1. Let’s see these scoring averages drop baby!
Since people like talk about back in the day players were plumbers and firemen I guess we can call this generation flight attendants with all the traveling they be doing 😂😂😂😂😂
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Good one.
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Outstanding comment. Thanks for making me laugh so hard I had hiccups for a few minutes.
Part of this comes from the NBA letting people into the league with minimal to no collegiate or semi-pro/international play experience. These high schooler baby-phenoms don't have experience following rules. Almost every rule change, written and unwritten, for decades has been about making it easier to score and because scoring is up after scoring has been catered to for decades, "Hey look, there's more points, more points=more betterer! We're blessed to be watching SUPERIOR ATHLETES." LMAO.
Lets not act like MJ didn{t use to travell almost everytime he took a first step.
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@@idkidk2573what? Show proof that's a dumb claim
@@Elver99Gudon Just watch this video for example "Jordan travels twice on one play".
But that’s not exactly true…Kobe, KG, TMac etc. ALL had good to impeccable footwork…
What we are seeing NOW???
This is a whole different level.
I have thought for years that one major thing I liked about Jordan's dunks in the dunk contest is they would be legal in a game. I have always found unsatisfying dunk contest dunks that couldn't legally be done in a game. Other people might not care, but it just doesn't mean much in my mind because my mind says, "That isn't real basketball". Just like trampoline dunk do nothing for me.
A side note, I mention that a player's high scoring game is greatly diminished as an accomplishment in my mind if his/her team loses the game. Similarly, in my mind, the greatest pass doesn't mean much if the person getting the ball doesn't score or passes to someone who fails to score. While not as diminished if the failure to score on the pass was due to being fouled, the beauty and coolness of the pass is still much diminished.
the fact that lbj fans commenting on your vids hehe
If they actually wanted to fix the issue, they should enforce "control" right after the ball last touches the ground.
This is what I had drilled into me 30 years ago: you dribble *hard* low and close, so the ball actually pushes upwards against your palm and that is how you control it without carrying it.
These days they train to dribble high and soflty, so that while the ball is floating spinning in mid-air, close to a player, he can run alongside it and claim that he did not have "control."
Even while he clearly *does* have enough control to grab it or pass it, because that is what he does after after several steps.
(I find this extremely difficult because it goes against everything I learned about playing basketball, but I guess it is easy if this is how you start)
You have a perfect example at 1:35 with OKC number 14: the first two numbered steps he is not even touching the ball. Steps 3-4 the ball is still spinning against his palm.
And even after all that he still travels.
This is how Harden started: he'd pull the ball backwards and do his famous stepback *alongside* the ball, without actually grabbing it hard until the end.
Which, if you can do it while dribbling forward, should also be legal sideways or backward.
But then he started grabbing it earlier and earlier until he's doing four-five steps like you show in this video.
I'm not talking about LeBron and Westbrook taking the inbound ball and walking with it for half the court.
That is just silly, but it can be defended *a little* by saying they got no advantage from it.
And because these two loopholes exist and are accepted, the players feel justified to just pick up the ball and walk.
And the refs let them.
❤love this video. Subscribed. Glad I found your channel . Another old hooper from the UK
@AngryOldHoops I think that you've marked the steps incorrectly in the Larry Bird moment at 9:00. The step that you've marked as 1 (left foot) is actually the gather step and after that Larry takes two steps (right, left) but you somehow count them as one.
Lebrons foot work sooo bad. He is already huge, and can jump. Yet you need to let him take 4 steps non stop. I personally understand jump stops, euro steps, and hesitate dribble. I'm fine with that. Lebrons 4 steps. Two hands on ball is just dumb.
Nba is a joke
its funny how mjaculators act like nba refs, execs, and players did not come out and say the rules were changed for jordan, everything was a foul for jordan if he wanted it, etc. but its also funny how you bronsexuals think the same thing aint happen with bron. yall getting brainwashed by the media too think these two are any good the real goat is kareem
1 kareem
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3 magic
4 bird
5 wilt
6 mj/bron
7 mj/bron
8 bill
9 shaq
10 steph
also jordan traveled like hell theres probably a lot of yt videos abt it😵💫
Let me ask you something son what rules exactly were changed for jordan ?
@@danycjones1325 who tf are you calling son everybody knew about the jordan rule damn near made it a 1v1 throughout every game could barely double team 😂
@@sway9427 like i said son im asking you what rule son ?give me one rule that was changed not fake narratives you herd from Bronsexual ..
@@sway9427 son, instead of deflecting, answer his question. FYI the Jordan rules were made to STOP Jordan. People like you crack me up....just talking to talk, but actually you're saying nothing at all.
This is the biggest reason why I LOL hard when these time-machine idiots talk about dropping modern players back into the 60's so they could "average 100ppg." Drop any one of these guys into the 60's and they get called for traveling EVERY.SINGLE.POSSESSION. The ref$ were MILITANT about calling traveling back then. Now they don't call shit. It's a joke
Also carrying the ball...that's why they looked awkward dribbling, every dribble was hand on top of ball.
Fouls were even more strict back in the 60’s and 70’s.Especially offensive fouls.You couldn’t initiate contact on drives.Refs back then allowed a minimal amount.Players couldn’t go barging into defenders like Lebron.I recently watched the Lakers vs Knicks finals games and was really caught off guard at the foul calls.
Exactly 😂😂😂
Palming in the 60's means your palm cannot touch the ball.
Legal Dribbling means, only the top of the ball, with just your fingers.
WWE type league now I stopped watching long time ago
The extra step destroys any defense plan conceivable.
The rule never changed, but refs got an email from Adam silver, telling them that those brats can not play by the rules, if they called travels and carries, the scoring leader would have 20 ppg.
This is the absolute worst era of basketball, skill wise, competition wise, mentality wise and team play in general, the game has been dumbed down, and it stopped being a perfectly designed competitive sport that is also a business, and it became a business that is mediocre entertainment at best.
The last true competitive years ended with Kobe, Dirk and Tim.
Kobe used to do that stop, grab the ball with 2 hands and then continue dribbling a LOT, I would even say he made it popular, go watch Kobe's travel against Spain that was uncalled, he used to do that same travel all the time.
The rule did change in 2009.
Facts
@@idkidk2573 Did he not show what the rules are for 2022-23? Pretty sure he did in the video.
@@roboninja3194 Ok but he said the last true competitive years were with Kobe and he used to do that travel al the time.
People underestimate the advantage this gives to the player on offense. How's the defender supposed to jump to contest the shot at the right time when he does not know how many steps the player attacking the rim is going to take?
that and no contact in defence = more scoring, which is the goal, too bad it became total shit where more players play defence like Bron or Harden...
Look at where MJ starts rising up after his second step, his so far from the rim. Players can't take off that far, that's why they take 3 steps to rise closer to the rim. That alone proves no one in the league right now is close to the athleticism MJ had.
@@Marlowe10100just ask any bron fan the players r so athletic today that mj would just basically b derozen😂 I've actually had ppl say that to me. Beyond nonsense right? Downright hilarious.
@@devinpoole4528 i've tried to explain to people that MJ mastered getting to the rim by getting around defenders with his dribble and smart manipulation of defenders. And that was when defenders could be all over you. Today he could get to the rim all day without anyone really contesting him.
Amen
Lakers Last night 40 free throws 40! Even with letrash and AD out nba still cheating for lakers
Hot take: Lebron's legacy: he ruined NBA basketball
1000%
Would be one helluva novel.
@Dimitry Barthelemy Thus validating how great of an impact MJ had on the NBA making him the GOAT!
He the ANTI GOAT
Actually not that controversial. His ex teammate Iman shumpert said that same thing LeBron ruined basketball by the super team hopping. He and his friends in the media made it seem normal.
For all the brontards on here saying the rules were changed for Jordan, why is Jordan only taking two steps in every clip?
Jordan used to travel all the time on his first step and his post moves, I{ll say they were not as bad as some of these tho.
Not all the time, he did travelled ocassionally but it's obvious that he mostly tried to play by the rules. On the other hand , Lebron and the current players do travel all the time.@@idkidk2573
@@idkidk2573upload clips of Jordan traveling. This is a lie
@@Elver99Gudonyou only gotta watch him for more than the highlights reels dude.
He travelled a lot. He carried a lot. He got ghost fouls called all the time.
He was when the rot started coz they wanted to push the marketting.
@@sugarnads Another kid lying lol
PLEASE do a similar video for "stepback moves", which are almost all three steps (except Harden's which are four). Long range shooting is a lot easier when you can cheat.
Harden doesn't have the media constantly talking about him and everything he does like lebron that's why he does lebron
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It's the same video. It applies to ANY steps you take. Regardless if those steps are backwards.
Just watch THIS video and you're done.
it’s always the same ~3 travels the harden haters show/mention. I’d be willing to bet you guys can’t find 5 or so instances of harden traveling at all during his entire Houston career (stopped watching him after so I can’t speak on his recent years). harden had exquisite footwork unlike lebron.
This shit has been driving me crazy. This video was important. Every true fan and fanboy should objectively view this. Thanks AOHF.
there is NO SUCH THING AS A ZERO STEP. period. its maddening and the reason why i no longer enjoy the NBA. College is MUCH better at this point.
The ambiguity of travelling in the NBA now is so bad that I don’t even think the refs know how to call it.
They don’t want to upset the players 🙄
They don't call it because they are not willing to lose their job. It's no more sport but entertaining while in fact it's boring when you actually know the rules.
if you spent any amount of time playing basketball at all, when you take more than 2 steps it just feels WRONG/WEIRD. Even watching someone travel something weird jumps out at you. So people defending these travel calls nowadays, are either blind, or have never touched a basketball.
THAT IS SO EFFING SPOT ON ! I GET THE SAME FEELING SEEING A PLAYER TRAVEL! IT LOOKS LIKE A GLITCH OR SOMETHING ! YOU FEEL IT IN YOUR BODY IN A WAY....MAY SOUND STRANGE BUT ITS TRUE- I WOULD IMAGINE ONLY FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE PLAYED A LOT
Doncic whole post game is travelling
You are allowed to lift your pivot foot off the ground as long as you shoot or pass the ball before putting it back ont je ground. That's according to current NBA rules, FIBA rules and that's also according to the 1980s NBA rules and FIBA rules. This is not a new rule, it is just that most American guards didn't use it and most Americans think it is a travel even though it has been a legal play since more than 40 years.
You know I hear lebron fans say that we are gonna miss lebron when he is gone. What has lebron done for basketball to be missed? I've seen his whole career and I don't remember anything special. Larry and magic saved the nba, and MJ made it global. He also made the average person wanna watch the games. What did lebron do? Thats an honest question.
Absolutely nothing. Only his fans will miss him. For everybody else....it'll just be a brighter day for the league.
Turn us off made the game watchable
He gonna play until he's 50. He's drunk on basketball.
Today's players are so much bigger, stronger and faster that they need an extra step to display their far superior capabilities
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They needed to change the rules because players like LeBron with limited skill wouldn't survive, plus traveling can be hard to call. It is however frustrating when you see players (like LeFraud) incorrectly use the gather step and no longer getting called for taking 3 steps...brings the integrity of league into question, like how many points would Lebron really have if they didn't let him constantly take three steps?
Or illegally bulldozing defenders as if it was the NFL. Totally disgusting basketball. Not the sport we grew up watching.
@@letmetellyousomethin9410 Like at 13:08-13:09. The big forearm pushoff.
Lebron played one season in the handcheck era, his rookie year. And he shot 41.7%. Then the new rules opened up the game and of course his stats got better evey year. His rookie year is probably a small indication of what he would do in Jordan's era, but he has the rookie year, out of HS excuse so we'll likely never know what prime Lebron would do under rules of the past.
@@turtleislandlac1490I'd say since his game hasn't evolved at all since then its probably a good indicator of how he would done in the 90s.
True
LeBron hate I can respect. But one thing that is lost in all the haterade is that players can hardly tell when to challenge the shots anymore especially layups cause when does the dribbling end? Does it ever end? Makes defense extremely difficult even if you have the skill & desire to do it.
I think that’s a given. Of course they can’t tell when to challenge the shot when the ref may or may not give them an extra step or even an extra dribble after picking up the ball
Send this video straight to Adam Silver and have him retrain the referees with it
Giannis gets away with this all night aswell and hes a 7ft monster so it's even that much more unguardable, I hate it
Not basketball Association
Adam Silver has said in the past, that LeBron James is the face of the NBA. Does anyone not believe that?
The foot where you had to gather... thats the same foot where you should take off. Its so simple but this new hoopers just takes the game for granted. keep safe always Angry Old hoops Fan. you are a gem.✌
But lets not ignore the fact that MJ used to travel all the time too.
@@idkidk2573yes, no one is perfect. MJ had some uncalled travels too, but it was mostly pretty minor stuff and you really had to go and slow down the film to see it. Mostly just a small sliding or lifting of his pivot foot. And actually some of these got called when in today's NBA it's just zero chance for something like that to be called.
LBJ meanwhile travels at every game and some of the travels are plain ridiculous like taking 3, 4 or even 5 steps, walking with the ball, picking up the ball and then continuing dribbling. Please show me a video where MJ travels like that. LeBron has 15 minute compilations of outrageous uncalled travels. The dude ruined the NBA.
@@MeLoveParisHiltonLebron literally turns into a running back to take it from the 3 point line to the rim 😂
That was part of the conversation back during the dunk contest between MJ and Nique. They executed their dunks within in game rules.
So we gonna ignore the double dribble.
Thank you for this video. I have said this before always fact-check what an LBJ fan says no matter what! After the LBJ tantrum game, I didn't fact-check what someone said about it. Dude said that called a Gather step, and I asked a friend did they change the rules or something so I took it at face value. Then My Man angry hoops fans come out today in the clutch with some hardcore facts. Now I am like I knew I should have fact checked that sht. The game has changed so much that its easy to believe some BS based on what you are watching.
If a Lebron James fan in the media or on social media says something ALWAY FACT, CHECK IT! Because they are LIARS
I don't even know if I could learn how to take the 3 steps they take today I'm not sure I could unlearn 2 steps
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Basketball is hard to watch nowadays. Tuned into a warriors game last week and it was just jordan Poole carrying and chucking 3s.
It's no wonder players are dropping points at a record clip. Between defense becoming an afterthought. All the rules to increase pace of play and allow dribbling violations. It's hardly basketball.
If NBA starts forcing strict rules about traveling, only a handful of players will be able to play.. most of them are used to how it's being played nowadays
Thank you for this video. I have a hard time watching the NBA today because there is a traveling violation or palming and carrying the ball violation on virtually every possession. If possible next time show the outrageous "step backs" that are allowed today where players are lifting both feet and hopping backwards. What is sad is that kids today are learning all these same habits and the rules of the game are being ignored. This is a direct result of street ball and players finding ways to cheat without referees being present because when your team loses you have to sit until the next game and players today are too selfish and weak to admit their team lost so lying and cheating have become prevalent.
When I was playing basketball in the streets all of those travels and carries that NBA players do would be called travels by the opposing team. Basketball for fun was with much stricter rules than today's NBA.
Traveling used to exist now it’s just another Mandela effect
I have been saying this since Lebron came into the league. It stands out so much and is so obvious, your eyes pick it up even in real time because something looks off. I used to think Ewing was bad but, Lebron has taken it to another level. He is the King of Steps! If they enforced the rules and called the obvious traveling and offensive fouls he commits Lebron wouldn’t have half the points he has now. The NBA and the refs purposely ignore it because they marketed him as the face of the league and doing so would hurt their product.
LBJ IMHO wouldn't have beaten Kareem if all his travelling and offensive fouls were called right.
You roasts are epic!!!
The gater step rule was introduced by the FIBA in 2019 to protect American players(allowed to take one step when getting the ball IN MOTION and BEFORE they INITIATE the dribble, NEVER DURING or AT THE END of the dribble) from embarrassment in international competitions. A year later the nba and some "stars" with the help of the media clowns, twisted the rule to basically allow TRAVEL at any point during the dribble, BUT, if you read the travel rules, they REMAIN THE SAME, after you finish the dribble (gaining control of the ball, this is your last ball bounce in any serious basketball competition) TWO STEPS (one each feet) TWO STEPS (one feet + two feets landing at the same time) or TWO STEPS ( two at he same time + Pivot) TWO STEPS no mather what. For instance, the commonly used reverse layup the way nba players do it IS TRAVEL ALLWAYS.
Obviously it isn't that there was a third step that players could gave taken advantage of in the old days! When they took that step (and refs caught it) they were called for travelling.
The NBA has told it's officials to not enforce the rules so there can be more scoring. It's that simple. NBA players have never had it easier. The jump stomp is another ridiculous thing that's been incorporated into the game that has never made sense.
If is true, it is a fraud. They break their own rules to gain more money.
Been watching since the 90s. Last year I skipped watching the entire regular season and playoffs.. only watched game 5&6 of the Finals.
NBA is now Disneyfied trash
Ok, so… I’m 40. I’m also EXTREMELY bothered by the modern interpretation of the rules, but, the first 5 minutes of this video are dedicated towards the gather while receiving the ball while pointing out examples of “gathering” or picking up, the dribble. In the old days, if you caught the ball, and started running without dribbling, it was a travel at 2 steps. That was bad officiating cuz they didn’t understand the rules. The modern officiating allow a gather “step” after picking up the dribble that becomes 4-5 steps cuz they also don’t understand the rules.
Long story short: NBA officiating nowadays is taught to not penalize offense, cuz casual fans love offense. It’ll always drive me crazy, but I accept it.
What drives ME crazy is that highschoolers are taught to do it now.
Another 10/10 video! Bravo sir.
Makes me facepalm watching people argue gather step and travels. I've seen games since 2001 and never have I seen this level of traveling. James Harden, Lebron James, Jordan Poole, and sadly, my man Steph.
11:30 ONLY when he has an uncontested open lane dunk he follows the rule. When he faces clogged lanes though...
It's sad you actually have to slow this down for the young kids to figure out what an extra 3rd step looks like.
I think not traveling in the dunk contest actually makes the contest better
A defender locks down the handle but the handle travels/walks to create more space. After the ball stop & pivot, the defender knows after 2 steps, it's either pass or shoot. The refs dont care if its LeTravel James, hes the greatest actor, so let him slide, flop, choke, travel, walk & complain if the call doesnt go his way. I've seen LJ throw air balls, missed layups, missed slam dunks, losing his handle of the ball...mostly uncontested, untouched...after these sloppy embarrassments, lequeen blames the opposing team. He was a great, talented player for the first 8 years. You'd think his skill sets would improve over time? He ends up relying on sloppy play and his team to carry him. A true GOAT doesnt resort to play & compete like that to win! Hes not even in my top 10 players of all time! He almost was there but not anymore. 😂
yes, why didnt all the NBA players never take more than 2 steps and why did all the refs forever always call traveling when anyone took more than 2 steps???
at least russ was called for that travel LOL
Refs are compelled to call more than 32 steps or they are fired.
How many steps to 40,000 points? Many, many steps. Disgusting basketball.
I cringe whenever I see a travel go uncalled. Can't help it.
Main reason I quit watching NBA. Just uncomfortable
My dad played in the 40s and 50s. He experience was anything not on the exact top of the ball when dribbling was a carry which is why the game was all weave and passing. Relaxing the rule to the top part of the ball allowed for the point guard to advance and drive the ball. Even what Isiah was doing in these examples was a carry in the early 50s. Today, they are allowed to just flat out carry and walk. I like the Mavs but Jason Terry used to drive me crazy, he carried every dribble every game, all game. I stopped watching NBA in 2011. You can certainly look more athletic when steps and carry don't matter. Every time I flip it on to check it out, its a clown show now. Unwatchable crap.
You weren’t getting away with any sort of traveling back in the Jordan era. That’s yet another reason why if Mike played today he’d easily average 50. Wilt would average whatever he wanted. Shaq would shoot 40 free throws a game. Todays nba is a joke
Jordan's freethrow dunk was the most impressive and more difficult because Jordan kept a live dribble and didn't run with the ball!!
I agree with everything you said. It's ridiculous how the pros and even college players get away with traveling and even palmimg the ball. They're not playing by the rules.
I'm no fan of LeBron, but help me understand. @12:14 when LeBron dribbles the ball, you seem to be calling that step the gather step, the step where the ball and the foot are hitting the ground at the same time, but according to the rules the gather doesn't occur until the ball comes to a rest, both hands touch it or there is a pause right? I would say the very next step @12:18, where his right foot hits the ground and he places both hands on the ball, the gather step. Then it's left foot, right foot and launch. Doesn't look like a travel to me from this angle. @12:54 against the Hornets that was DEFINITELY a travel!
Compare it to the footage I show later of the old days. That’s the same step they previously considered a gather step. Whatever you want to call it, it’s more steps than anyone took before.
@@AngryOldHoops None of the examples from the old footage show that the gather is when the ball is on the floor, it's not the point when the dribble is considered to be over. It's the point when a player gains control of the ball thus ending the dribble. There's no way 12:17 (left foot on the floor) can be considered a "gather", how do you know that he's not going to keep dribbling? Only the next step (right foot on the floor) is the point where he gains control of the ball, and after that he takes two steps. Let's be fair, this one is absolutely NOT a travel.
I don't like Lebron much, but 1:40 is not a travel. He grabs the ball with two hands at first, he is not dribbling...then he takes a step to his left and dribbles.
Whatever happened to a fundamental jumpstop? Wtf is a damn gather
Videos like this need more exposure. I'm sure YT has this on shadow ban.
LeBronze is just blatantly picking up the ball and walking with it. 🤦
some valid points here.. but calling lebron a "piece of shit" over a game was kind of weird.
Problem is lebron is not athletic - for an athlete. That’s a problem.
lebron is athletic in the sense that he can run and jump LOL
but he is certainly NOT agile, his skills are terrible for a supposed goat
@@chousan1024 I say this all the time and people think I’m delusional
@@spaciousgrace3816 yea the people that believe lebron is the most skilled basketball player have no idea about basketball or sports in general
they are most likely not athletes themselves, lol
either way, we who speak the truth are labeled the crazy ones, sad
See, you have your pre gather, the gather, your post gather, and all the gatherings you need before and after the dribble. 😂
Carter came so close to knocking out Garnett after his dunk.🤭
It started with LeBUM's crab dribble!!
@9:02 the step you labeled #1 for Bird I believe was actually his gather step with the left foot. His right foot should be step #1 which takes place @9:06 followed by step #2 @9:08.
Ive noticed that too....we couldn't get away with this back in highschool basketball in the 90s lol
You couldn't get away with things like this playing basketball on the streets in the 2000s and 2010s in my country (Serbia)
He’s a Traveling king 🧳🏀
you have explained it so well, but those unbelievers would still find ways to disagree. It is just too sad that players and even superstars do not respect the game as the greats before them did. all they care about is abusing the game.
What I've seen argued is that the gather step when a player picks up the ball isn't the first 0 step. Its like a negative zero. Then when they put the second hand on the ball THAT'S the gather/zero step, but the negative zero in that case could be called a carry, so they're allowing like a carry and a travel, which is breaking the game.
They trolling 😂😂
Look at where MJ starts rising up after his second step, his so far from the rim. Players can't take off that far, that's why they take 3 steps to rise closer to the rim. That alone proves no one in the league right now is close to the athleticism MJ had.
Yes, you need more steps when you're not athletic enough to dunk from distance. Or when you don't have enough skills to escape defenders in two steps. It's like playing (American) football where defenders are not allowed to touch you.
Love the video
The NBA today is just unwatchable for me, and i dont care who disagrees with me. The refs are aweful and are extremely sensitive. Players barely play defense. The mid-range game is all but dead. The way they are allowed to cary and travel is beyond ridiculous! I started watching basketball in the 70s. This stuff now is hot garbage! Im out!
Nba refs mysteriously started allowing this once I stopped playing. They called one long step a travel when I played. They called Dominique jump stop a travel back then.
Your anger has rubbed on me coz I played ball and took it to heart and we always checked our dribbling and got called for overhead dribbling, illegal dribble (double dribble), jumping (yes, we did not incorporate pro-hop in our games). Pump fakes were enough. Now this generation is justifying carrying the ball. What's the purpose of practice? Is it hard to carry the ball? Hell no!
Imagine Wilt Chamberlain playing today? With the current traveling rules? The soft, play? His teams would literally go undefeated averaging 100 points a game.
Carters dunk isnt a good example. It was basicaly a offensive foul in the 60 /70 and maybe even the 80th
actually nba and fiba redefined travelling rules around 2018. so now you get to take a step (gather or 0), pick up your dribble and take 2 more steps. before 2018 gather or 0 step wasnt a thing so 1st step occurred when you picked up your dribble.
60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, if u took more than one and a half ( 2 steps ), it was everything...u sucked if you took 3 steps and it was a travel, and if you tried to defend your actions, get off the court
Whatever these guys are playing now, IT AIN’T NBA Basketball.
It’s truly a joke. And SAD on top of it. The game was EXCITING & GREAT.
Now, it’s no different that middle schoolers who can dunk.
Nba never changed the rule book for traveling? 🤔
So it is pure Interpretation by the refs?
There are two sets of rules in any rulea based society - the rules as written, and the rules as applied. For professionals like Lebron, who want to win, it's ruleset [2] that matters, and that they follow.
Why do they interpret the rules differently now? The NBA believes it will create a more exciting game with lots of scoring, so that more people watch, so that their TV deals command more money.
If you search for "gather steps in 90s NBA", you could also get a lot of video that how NBA players at the past using the Zero steps, including MJ. There are people traveling crazily nowadays, but does not means this rules is wrong, just the rule at the past is not clear so people seldom use it (or they won't let you know the tricks). Joey Crawford already explained, it is because in a transition movement it is just difficult to determine what is "gather a ball", and so this updated rule is to clarify the things. People traveling crazily now (even they already took more than 012 steps) and don't get a call, that's the problem from the referee, not the rules. And I think this is what hurting today's NBA. Even nowadays you will also find lots of players using the old 12 steps, at the end is just all depends on if the move is spontaneously smooth or not.
This is the first generation to shit on the players that came before. When I was coming up, the players we heard so much about, were viewed as mythical figures. When we heard about the older players having second jobs outside of playing professional sports, it only raised our level of respect for them. It was like “wow, this guy has two jobs and he’s still the best in the world.” Today we have legions of geniuses who genuinely believe greatness only became a thing after they were brought into this world.
I don't blame today's players for taking advantage of this because it's the league's issue to solve. but don't tell me that today's NBA is more enjoyable to watch than the 90s and 80s
All sports are entertainment and the rules in all of them are for the future fans, that are playing video games of these sports. Thus a football receiver can’t be touched, basketball players can’t be touched ( hand checking) They even changed the Hockey rules and baseball has done something with the balls & time.
Maybe because how many of us were raised playing were we called our own fouls and traveling and carrying...even when called for it, you knew if you took a third step not to argue😂
IF THEY DON’T CALL IT THEN LEBRON IS ACTUALLY SMART TO USE THIS TO HIS ADVANTAGE. THE REFS SHOULD FUCKIN CALL TRAVELLING ON EVERYONE IN THE LEAGUE! This is BS
This is the reason why team USA is not the dominant team in fiba world because fiba rules aren’t soft as the NBA rules 😂Btw the ones dominating in NBA are gianis, Luka and jokic this players are playing in fiba rules back then
8:59 is a pretty bad example. You counted the 1 when Larry's LEFT foot hit the ground, then you counted 2 when Larry's LEFT foot hit the ground again. Do I even have to explain why that's wrong?
At 9:00 that is straight lying. He took 3 steps and we all know it lmao. Not a huge basketball fan nor do I think LeBron James is nearly as good as Jordan from what I've seen and what I know...but you don't have to lie to prove a point. This guy's acting as if Bird took his first and 2nd step with his left foot and his right foot never even touched the ground from the moment he takes the first step all the way until after he lands from the dunk LOL.
Seems like the clip against the clippers bron didnt travel. It looks clean to me. He is counting the gather step even though the ball was on the ground being dribbled. Just look at when he puts his hand under and grabs the ball with both hands. Simultaneous with the step. I would call that the gather and then 1 2 and foul. Got to give this one to bron. Doesn’t mean he doesn’t travel 90% of the times
I hate to say it, but you're wrong about that Lebron vs Celtics clip. His gather step is the step you labeled as 1 (12:20) . That's when he gathered the ball in two hands. The ball was still traveling up to his hands when he took the step before.
I really wish the nba would just admit they changed the rules for these “superstars” and put it in The rule books at 3 steps. 4 steps becomes a foul with shots and 5 steps is a flagrant 1. Let’s see these scoring averages drop baby!