Ford Escape - Misfire
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- Опубликовано: 31 авг 2017
- Come along as we have a look at this 2009 Ford Escape 2.5 that was dropped off with a single cylinder misfire that turned out to be more that the average coil pack.
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I often wonder if the town of Avoca has increased in population from people moving there just to have Eric O. as their mechanic ? ? ? ? ?
To mucking cold in the winter and to much snow for me nice in the summer time
The customer misjudges time. Those spark plugs have been in there awhile just like her lunch...from a year ago. (ha ha) Great money shot! We could see it fine. Thanks for hanging out late. I know you have a life so time spent here is appreciated.
I have seen several damaged and sludged up engines were the owners insisted on regular oil changes and that the last one was recently done...after some research it was found that the last one was like 5 years or 60.000miles ago....
every 5 years IS regular, it just isnt often
You are one hell of a good mechanic I've learnt a lot from you
you prolly dont give a damn but does any of you know of a method to log back into an Instagram account?
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@Simon Dane you are welcome :)
Wow! That view of the chunk missing from the valve was awesome. Thanks for showing us that new camera and the gnarly damage
It was awesome!
I love your channel because it’s step by step and is literally exactly how I learn. Thanks for your hard work
I also just ordered a digital endoscope 👍
One of your best diagnostic vids Eric. Amazing. I hope the lady decides to go ahead and repair it so you can film it and give us some closure on this case.
Great diagnostics - really liked the compression test, leak down test, and camera view of the valve. Nice. Thumbs up video.
As always, thanks for sharing your steps for determining this type of misfire.
I have a 2009 Escape with the same misfire issue. I've changed plugs, coil packs and even injectors and still have a miss. I gave up trying to self diagnose and took it to a local mechanic who tested the compression and said it was good. They're are scratching their heads now too. Great video and love the running commentary. Thank you for taking the time to take us along on your diagnostic journey.
may b the ecm/pcm jus a guess
Could be valve clearance.
@@blitz8619 It turned out to be a burned valve. Had the top end re-done twice because the machine shop put the wrong valve in the fist time and didn't figure it out until they tried to start it. I only had to pay for it once that god! Shes still running fine.
Best mechanic on the Internet learnt alot from you keep up the great work 👍
Dr. O that was awesome! A clinic on analyzing a misfire from start to finish. Very cool to watch and learn from. Absolutely love that power balance test and wish I had it on my OTC. Thanks Dr. O!
A very thorough diagnosis. Great job
Mechanics of your caliber are few and far between. It is always good working with you. Thanks for taking us along.......Barry from Fl.
One of the best videos yet... doctor O car colonoscopy
Wow, just WOW! He diagnosed it in 3 different ways and then went further showing video evidence what really was broken!
Also, the video is very well done slowly progressing from problem to final diagnosis.
@@mr__No Stay tuned! Two years later: Eric performs autopsy on Ford Escape.
Did you find the body of the husband in the trunk she smoked a bowl and killed him after she ate that food on the floor!
Awesome diagnostic Eric,you the man bro.Keep up the great work you do daily.
You probably don't have time to read all these comments but just wanted to say you really are great at getting right to the problem. Its great to see someone who knows what they are doing.
State of cars often says a lot about customers. Thanks for the video Eric. Don't burn out.
Amazing, maybe not to the young folks now days but seeing the valves while still in the engine is amazing to me. I've don't recall ever seeing a chunk broken off a valve like that. Burnt, head popped off, bent, stuck but not a piece broken off.
Happens from time to time, fairly rare but I've seen it 4 times. The more oddball to me was that Cummins 8.3 that kept dropping valve seats, dropped 3 seats in 4 years. New cylinder head each time.
I am getting one of those USB cameras. Was the final bit of an excellent diagnostic. Giving the customer good information, listening to them is the first step in building trust.
First thought was Wow! Seeing that chunk from the valve gone, and second thought was where'd it go! You read my mind Eric lol
Eric. You have the BEST videos on the web - bar none! Great explanations and trouble shooting. I've worked Avionics on airplanes - been to a ton of schools - but I find your knowledge, common sense, ability to t/shoot is far beyond my pay grade. Thanks.
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Loved in the cylinder view of the damaged exhaust valve....It really made the video.
Wow that is awesome that you got such a good view of that valve. As always great diagnoses and thank you for taking your time to film it.
What an excellent video set. I watched #2 first, then had to go back to see how you made the diagnosis. You made it look easy.
I did too 🎥
Finally got a "real" Launch! I'll have to use the contact another tech option when I have a problem! haha! Thanks for the video Dr.O!
Wait... If I buy a launch I can contact Eric O on it! It's time to get the Visa out!
Good one! "Well There's your problem lady!" Man that shop air is corrosive!
Had little to do with what I was looking for with my own problems, but I really enjoyed this video start to finish!
Great Video! That camera shot of the valve was FANTASTIC! WOW! Talk about a definite conclusion!
Another great diagnosis by Doctor Eric at the SMA Medical Center
I love that you're using the harbor freight impact. Gives it some legitimacy. Too many people shit all over anything that isn't from a tool truck. I love that 90 degree mirror thing. I just checked my autel handheld camera that I haven't used yet and found that it has the same mirror--I never would have known about it if not for you 🙄 Can't wait to see that launch used in future vids
It must really be impressive .. as I dont think Eric is a huge HF fan >
I will say I have a 1/2 Milwaukee and a hex Milwaukee and have not ran into a bolt the 1/2 couldnt break free ..coarse I am not a pro and dont live in the rust belt
50sKid, Once we hit the great Industrial depression Snap-on, Mac, Matco,Cornwell and many more will be going down the Drain. Over the next few years they had better come up with a "MASSIVE" game plan to keep their customers. Funny how every time I need something my SO man don't seem to be around. Matco guy is awesome to deal with can even go to his house but he don't stock anything out of the ordinary. I find myself using more of the "other" brands when it comes to Sockets it is on my way to just run in and exchange if need be.
Over the Last 35 Years I have had and used many brands of tools English, German, US don't matter they are all good tools but in today's economy I opt not to load myself up with tool bills anymore. I will admit many moons ago I was one of them people that thought a good mechanic needs them name brand boxes and tools but then I grew up. Not knocking the Snap-On, Matco, Mac, Williams, Dowidat, Knipex, Kennedy ect. ect. tool boxes and or tools they are great. But the cost of owning them is ridiculous. It is no problem to to spend 150 grand on name brand tools when a (one) 32mm socket costs $48.00. Sorry, I'm rambling on now..... You get the Idea.
I've looked in snap on catalogs before and some of the tools I see which are obviously china made and really no better than Harbor Freight are so ridiculously priced it makes me scratch my head. seems that all of those high end American made tools are being priced out of the market
Not all of us..I'm a diesel mechanic and I have both Snap on and I strongly also can say that I have some Harbor Freight offset and large size open end wrenches that I POUND the dog snot out of that have held up for many a year now and where half the cost...power tools pretty much you get what you pay for but overall I'd say Harbor can hold its own...
john .. not true I have the HF 1/2 drive laser etched ( 10? years old ) has 15 mm ( I just looked ) it even has 19mm which is the same as a 3/4 ( 19.0500mm)
Excellent video of why you gotta pay for excellent diagnosis! I am sharing this on my Facebook page to share with my customers! Keep making excellent video, Eric O!
I have a 2010 Escape, this is very helpful. Thanks for sharing Eric.
Lol....not sure why....but the subtle "get the cherry picker" comment when cover wouldn't pop off was way funnier to me than it should have been
A cherry picker is the crane that mechanics use to lift engines or transmissions out of vehicles. When the valve cover was giving him a hard time, he jokingly said "get the cherry picker" to emphasize how much trouble the valve cover was giving him while coming off.
@@SwarmInbound yeah I think everyone got that my dude
I am 99% sure the parent comment was edited, I would not have typed that out to reply to this guys comment that clearly didn't need an explanation. That being said it was a year ago so who the hell knows
"MONEY SHOT!" Dang that was some awesome camera work Eric. Don't see too many 4-bangers in the Ford Escapes...made me think of the Zetec in my Mercury Mystique :)
Yeah worked out good we could see it with the old wing wong camera. I pop the head off in an upcoming vid. The quick and dirty way too :D
@@SouthMainAuto how did you put it in automatic flood mode??? I know Chevy they day you hold the gas pedal all the way down then try to start it and it won't start. Is this what you do with Ford to?
Great that an $18 camera enabled you to show us the inside. Amazing!
I really like this channel. I'm actually repairing a similar issue on my 2001 escape, and I learned a lot from just this one video, the 2001 has a similar motor, I'm kindve new to the DIY car culture and videos like this help me learn immensely! Thanks for the content and I now subscribed to the channel and I hit the like button 😊
Piece of the valve is probably in the catalytic converter.
My dad's underware might be in that converter, he's done it before, the asswipe
good video man love the 20 dollar bore cam too
That was pretty cool! I bought one of those cameras months ago because i saw you use it. Not a great camera but it worked perfectly in this instance to show exactly what was wrong! pretty awesome!
Eric O is a great educator when comes to auto repairs .
All you can do now is make the car comfortable.
I paused the video when you showed the inside of the car. Called my wife in to see. She couldn't believe that the owner left it like this to go to the garage!
Which smelt worse, the plate of food or your "bad" air? 😂
Take it out behind the woodshed and whack it with a shovel. It is the humane thing to do.
Best reply! Lol.
Good work Eric your the man ,I would like to see the the follow up if the lady decides to pull the hesd
eric will only get the job of valeting the interior
You definitely know your shit that’s for sure.Keep up the great work I really enjoy watching someone who knows what there doing!!!!
I have a similar "Amazon Junk" camera I use to look at pool pump impellers and at heat exchangers of pool heaters etc. It works great as a diagnostics tool without having to tear stuff down substantially. My camera head is actually water proof.
Amazing video. Great boroscope action
That's a handy little snot. Have one that we use to inspect converter beds via the O2 sensor hole. Not 100% by any means, but it gives a hint for condition.
I don't know if you have looked at yours, Eric, but a lot of those endoscope cameras have a little thumbwheel on the side of the USB plug which will turn the LED light brightness up and down. Often, turning the lights down can make the picture a lot clearer than running it at higher brightness, too.
I just looked at the one you linked in Amazon, and it does have the brightness adjustment on the USB plug.
Dude you are an awesome mechanic! I love your usb borescope trick at 19:22.
Wow. Camera work was awesome. You identified the problem without taking the cylinder head off of it. Super cool.
Simple boroscope came in handy and great for the home mechanic.unusual to see bit missing from the valve. Good camera work.
what do you think causes a valve to break like this ?
This condition is usually caused by alternative very high temperature and low temperature. Cracks start to form and eventually the pieces fall off into the cylinder and misfires occur. With constant high temperature the valve metal will soften giving a concave effect. Heavy loading and a lean condition will result in a very hot engine.
Probably started out as a little bitty crack. Once it made it through enough to leak, then you have (in effect) a cutting torch acting on it and the rest most likely burned away.
Makes me wonder if the HF impact power indicator lights actually work. Maybe they just go from full power to no power all of a sudden? Seems to be working well for you otherwise though.
That camera is great. I need to get me one of those. That would be great for showing the customer what was actually wrong.
"That's me looking at you looking at me looking at you" Pchew! *mind blown*
Thanks for the video.
I like how your diagnosis process was. You diag problem within minutes. I like to see videos like that. Thanks for sharing.
Eric, I'd thought you already had a Launch tool. I remember seeing a launch case in 1 of your previous videos. So glad you showed the viewers this tool. I have a icarscan, which is pretty much the same as your x431. Only difference being I only get to choose 5 auto manufacturers and have to buy each individual one after the free 5. I'd just used mine tonight to relearn the tpms sensors on a nissan titan. Good stuff. Love your videos. "If you can do it, I can do it."
27:38 You already determined that the cylinder walls are fine with the leakdown test: Air was only going out the tailpipe. No air in the crankcase means cylinder walls/rings are fine. No air in the air box means intake valves are fine.
If you're not sure, plug the tailpipe and check if ANY air is coming through to the crankcase, or use a 100 PSI smoke machine.
She may need a new catalytic converter when that exhaust valve piece finds its way there.
Maybe there's pizza stuck in the cylinder? ;-)
JoeyPete freaken funny comment!
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LOL!
No. More than likely a condom sucked into the throttle body.
My dad has bad breath
I can see your finger print on your small camera. So glad you got the money shot. Awesome. Learn a little more every day. Thanks for the knowledge.
Awesome Eric with the little camera you can see it clearly nice call
"Engines is making some funny noises" I love when customers say that. Hahahaha
Very cool shot of the valve, wonder if the chunk was taken from the opposite side how well we'd see it? Lucky it presented itself nicely!
He twisted the valve from the top to get a full view.
nice work Eric. I bought one of those little USB cameras as well. I could see the chunk missing in the exhaust valve clear as a bell. Hope you get the job.
Great diagnostic! Thanks for taking the time to explain the little things.
sweet vid, potential normal missfire turned out be extra good video material.
The usb camera worked quite well, modern technology and the chinese has made that cheap and available for all, bit like the HF impacts, quite cheap and quite decent . You may find the HF impact battery gauge not that accurate and will fall rapidly when close to drained, interesting find out and interesting see tool lifespan in proper shop use ...
Crack on Mr O, don't want too many late evenings as you'll get icecream withdrawal lol .
As soon as i saw the plate of rancid food i would have pull that thing out of my shop and told them to set the car on fire
Damn LOL
ain't no discriminating the customer here. top video as usual dr. o
I had no time to clear the dog shit from the back seat, I hope you don´t mind
Never say no to free lunch!
lmao
Talking about a positive diagnosis nice camera. your a great mechanic. thanx J S mechanic for 35 years.....
Great quick diagnosis, awesome video as usual well explained on the issue and identification.
Mr. O go home get some rest. Great vid 🤓
Great diag Eric! Way to not throw a plug and a coil at it! I actually had a 2010 Escape 2.5l in late last year that had the exact same problem. Cylinder 3 miss, burnt exhaust valve...hmm why cylinder three? Coincidence? ~Mike
NGK TechnicalTraining.the plug or coil wasn't the problem.the valve had a piece broken off it
peter barber read...... He said good diagnosis because most people would've thrown a plug and coil at our.
I'm here because P0302. I feel sick. It's my car.
My 2008 v6 did the same thing. Be 140,000 miles
2 Other Comments From Viewers That Had Same Problem,Hopefully,For the Customer,It's A Recall on Valve Train Issue.Would A Broken Lifter Cause That?
I have two of those cheap USB cameras. One for my phone and one for my shop. They work surprisingly well. The mirror attachment you have is nice.
this vid hooked me up!!! bad coil in cylinder 4 and the damn coil was only 9 months old. thanks
Ok, so I'm OCD, but I vacuum my interior, clean the dash & have the interior look its best when I drop my car in for repair.
Although it's always pretty clean!
Perfect, lucky the valve had rotated to the correct position for to diag.. This tool could be perfected easily.
Excellent video. Love the humor. I'm watching on my phone with headphones and my wife and kids are staring at me chucking. Good tips here, I'll be looking at that camera, Amazon and Hf should give you a kickback. LOL
I've got an 09 with the 3.0 ... 241K miles and still going strong. I do my own maintenance.
Original transmission?
@@adribouss Yes. I do a drain and fill every 30-40K miles. Never flush.
Hey great video! Did you try the dollar bill test on the tail pipe while it was running? I bet the exhaust would have sucked it back in while the engine was running.. which of course would indicate a valve train issue. Thanks for sharing!
Very handy tip.
"You can blowdry your hair on the tailpipe." 😂😂😂😂
Great job Eric. I have the same camera. Works pretty good!
Damn Great Video Eric.. I'm very impressed with that amazon USB scope... A+...........
How nice of them to leave you a snack when your done with the mary jane.
am really sorry for saying this, but how in the world can you keep you car that dirty ? How can you take you car to the shop and leave food on the floor like that ? I bet she goes to the doctor with dirty underwear too.
You are supposed to wear CLEAN underwear when you go to the doctor? OMG!!!!
And that's why I get my car washed once a week. And vacuumed out. Along with keeping trash and garbage out of my car. It's the little things
This is after she cleared it out some
I dated a girl once that left her half eaten Whopper in the glove box of my new 82 Toronado. Her mother told me I was wasting my time. I took her mom's advice extra quick especially after seeing her apartment which looked like a missile hit a garbage dump.
@@newjerseybt At least she won't nag you to clean up all the time.
Awesome video!!! thanks for sharing your knowledge you are a good guy
as a man who makes a living as a mechanic , your brilliant. sure if you an do it i can do it but you do it really well my friend.
what savage leaves a plate of food in the foot well. is the customer a racoon?
haha, Hannah sabotage as a going away present.
what would cause a chunk of valve to come off?
RL Agito from the position of the chip I am thinking it touch the piston head
@@armpitdew Either that, or a foreign object entered the cylinder. Furthermore, carbon buildup can come loose during excessive revs, breaking spark plugs, denting piston crowns and chipping valves, especially during an "Italian Tune-up"...
Detonation from low octane fuels can also cause weird damage. Exhaust valves overheat, and eventually burn or fracture. Finally, we can't rule out a manufacturing defect of the part itself. QC isn't always what it's cracked up to be.
I have personally had a couple exhaust valves fail from detonation. Mine was caused by the tune having too much timing and it eve took out the headgaskets in the corresponding cylinders. Can't rule out predet as an option of failure.
180,000 miles
I've worked on those Escapes before. A place I use to work for had several of them. I've seen drugs in several cars I've worked on before. Thats why I hardly ever take customers cars on test drives. I don't want to get pulled over and say to the cops thats not mine. LOL
And the cops go like "oh yea sure, they all say that " LOL
1970chevelle396 I used to work for a Mazda dealership and we had a lot of tributes which were the same as the escapes. They only came in two ways either immaculately taken care of or ragged to the nines. No in between
I once bought a 68 short bed chevy once and was about to drive off and the guy said hold it and got in and pulled a needle and syringe out of the front seat.
Love the hair dryer reference. Great smile. Keep them coming.
the launch tool has a relative compression test in it....saw it on the launch screen when you did running misfire test.....the ford tool and snap on tool has the relative compression test on tool.... for most newer fords with can network....great video as always!
"My husband also forgot his lunch and ciggy's on the passenger side floor.
"We're going into the hole together"
opl500 Dr. O., AG. Automotive Gynecologist
LOL, LOL, LOL...
for only a second I felt dirty.
that was a awesome camera angle inside engine shot! thanks
Nice camera shot of that valve. Thanks for the video.
Computer detects misfire, Shuts down injector!! News at Eleven!! Cool!!
Prolly shouldn't use your bad air around that engine. It's ruined for sure now!
Engine gonna rot now prolly.
The joke that the previous gentlemen made went so far over your head it's not even funny.
Buddy, you probably don't even know the joke about the "Bad Air". And even if you do, what kind of person are you to call someone a jackass just because they made a joke on the internet? You want to call us keyboard cats yet you're the one being the keyboard warrior. If you are so sensitive to Eric's customers that you can't take said joke then instead of calling the poor dude who's just trying to laugh along a jackass, simply close the window and move on with your life. If the person who owns the vehicle watches the channel doesn't like what they see, they have that same option.
@Paul Reader, Nobody understands a word your saying, are you illiterate?
Paul - you seriously need to lay off the tequila before 7 AM...
Dude I hope that one day I can be this good at fixing cars and this knowledgeable about it. I mean I’m not stupid but I’m not anywhere near this guys level! Good stuff sir! Keep up the great work!
Eric, Sometimes we can see better than you think we can. Ex: The shot of the top of the piston was good enough for us to see what you were taking about, shoot a little brake clean in the spark plug hole would have cleaned the piston top a bit. thanks for the video's.
How in the lightning thunder did a piece of the valve break off ; must be a china part . IDK
I was wondering the same thing. Not a fan of 4 cylinder engines. Was this being drag raced or something crazy like that.
Sure ol "hubby" dropped sumthin in the hole...probly some petrified leftovers by the looks of it
If you look at the pic, you can see it was relatively smooth -- meaning it melted.
Holy nasty! You ought to leave a can of Lysol and some Armor all wipes on the seat, maybe she'll get the hint. I can never understand how people treat their cars like garbage cans. I have an '05 Envoy and although it's old, I would never let it get in that condition.
it has nothing to do with age... old cars are nothing bad... I don´t clean my car with a white gloves and a brush everyday because it is made to be used...but I keep it clean to some extend because I spend at least 2 hours a day in there and I would not feel good in such a dirty shit..
Chedder CheeseHead now we all know exactly WHERE Eric can use his Brake Clean in this video! I'd of sprayed that crap down with Brake clean, panther piss, And Lysol before ever gettin in the car.
+John Shay just get some tyvek painters suits and duct tape for the leg and wrist cuffs to seal to boots and gloves.
My 98 ram doesn't get that bad.. I mean all that's in there is receipts and extra parts
Thanks Eric, love the old school...
You did a great job of diagnosing that car. I have an 08 escape and had a misfire I changed my spark plugs, coil, pack, and injector now it sounds like a putting sound out the tailpipe
Who in the hell brings their car to a Shop looking like that inside. I'd be ashamed if i were the customer to take it anywhere like that.
You would be ashamed because you think it's disgusting. The people who brought it in don't see anything wrong with that pile and therefore aren't ashamed.. Like people with cats..
John...cats are cool. Don`t go there :))
Okay, people with three or more cats...
@@ohger1 I've got three, OUTSIDE❗
Hey. Mind the cat snark. I've got 2 and a dog. And they're all awesome!!!
is it just me or at 24:52 you can see the missing piece of the valve by the cylinder wall.
take down coming soon...
"feast or famine" 8 or 9 EXTRAS is better than being short 8 or 9 regulars.
i always say that the reward for finishing hard work is MORE WORK.
keep up the good work Eric
I'd be more happy if the reward was a reasonable amount of work. But hey, I can do my 8 hours and walk home, nobody can force me to stick around if I don't feel like it that day.
Our scan tools at Chrysler were little wireless pods like that. They had a yellow tag that hung down, but still easy to forget. I had a long bright green stretchy coil (like one of those wristband keychains) that I would latch to the vehicle keys.