2001 Volvo S80 T6 vs. 2009 Volvo S80 T6: Comparing Both S80 Generations
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- Опубликовано: 22 янв 2025
- In today's video, I got hold of both generations of Volvo S80: The original P2 generation (an ex-Topher Fleet car) and the Ford based P3 model. The differences may surprise you; enjoy!
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Not too bad as a description of the characteristics. The P2 S80 will become a classic.
FINALLY SOMEONE MADE A VIDEO LIKE THIS. FIRST COMPARISON VIDEO OF THE 1ST GENERATION AND 2ND GENERATION S80 VIDEO, THANK YOU
Just bought a 1ST Gen 2.9 S80. Best car I have ever driven. No turbo fun but what a fantastic engine and nice drive. Going to use time and money to restore it to 100%.
So did I! And same. Reminds me of the Saab 9000s that my parents had when I was a kid. Love my p2 S80
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Great motor the 2.9
nice review, I have S80 2.3 T 2005 and S60 2.3 T 2003 also Xc90 2.9 T6 2004, All Volvo is confort and classic car :), I love volvo :)
Have a 2010 S80 with nearly 142,000 miles. Still drives like the day i bought it new!
Nice. Love my 03 2.9 p2 s80. Unfortunately I have a coolant leak that just started but it’s almost at 200,000 miles so I’m not surprised. Slowly getting him back to pristine condition since November. Yes the seats are comfiest, I love daily driving it ✨
Had a 02 and ever so often my coolant would just disappear.
Got a 02 2.9 also here in the Uk - great old cars.
I have a 2004 S80 T6 in great shape, low-ish miles. It's actually my daily driver! There's something about it I absolutely love! It has the phone on the center console with the number pad on the dash 😂
Hey man, that was a nice review! I just bought my first volvo s80 P2 2003, mine is the 2.4 D5 diesel though. Came from a honda civic and oh boy do i feel like royalty, indeed these seats are the most confortable that i've ever sat on any vehicle. Mine has the phone thing which is kinda cool to show friends. Got it for 2500€ from my uncle who was getting rid of it for a XC90. Best deal ever!
Both were great cars. I was fortunate to travel to Goteborg in 1998 for the launch of the original S80 - a very exciting time for Volvo and was a great success. It was also the basis for many future models; the S60, V70 and V70XC and of course, the immensely successful XC90🙂🇸🇪
At 8:46 those volume buttons are for the headphones volume, not for the doors speakers. 9:34 that handbreak looks like a woken "cucumber" 😂😂😂
I'm interested in the newer S80. It looks very understated, elegant and sensible. I just wonder how they are in terms of reliability and cost to own in terms of potential repairs.
They arnt too bad provided you get one that's been cared for. I'd avoid the 4 cylinder models but the 5 and 6 cylinders in the P3 are pretty solid.
Excellent really. My personal 2011 s80 D3 (5 Cylinder diesel) has done over 304,000 miles and still runs perfect including the gearbox. Very much recommended if you want something stylish that is low maintenance and built like a tank.
Technically you could fit the 3.0-litre T6 or 4.4-litre V8 into the original S80 because Volvo offered them in the XC90, which has the same chassis as the S80. It's been done before.. There is a P2 V70 floating around with the 4.4 litre V8 installed.
I had a 2002 S80 T6. And loved it. I have a 2008 S80 T6 now. And love it too. About to get a 2019 or 2020 S90 T8 is next on my list.
First generation Volvo looks better than second gen in my opinion
that P2 is beautiful - that era was the last gasp for automotive design imo. cars have steadily gotten uglier with the advent of CFD and the need to hit lower drag coefficient targets, going from the 0.4-0.5 range (90s-00s) to the 0.3 range for efficiency and performance. it's nice to have a slippery car, but god they're ugly. at a certain point the designer's hand starts to fade away more and more - when you're trying to hit 0.3, every body design starts to converge towards being a "type of Prius". and the P3 volvo isn't all the way there yet, but you can feel how much less attitude and style it has than the boxier, less rounded P2 model.
Yes
It was my first car. Black just like the one in this video and an '01 except it wasn't a T6, but a 2.9. I miss it dearly despite all the problems it gave me.
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That sounds like you had a very beautiful/sexy, expensive girlfriend you had to let go. Lol
The P2 6 cyl gearbox was made by GM. I worked at the engine center assembly line back in 2003-2006
Iirc it was meant for cadillac, shame it ruined the 1st gen s80s
There was nothing wrong with the transmission itself. It just wasn't rated for the torque of the engine volvo was matting it to
170k miles on mine , gearbox still smooth
I'm driving S80 model year Early 2016. Inside and outside tweaked, only downside is it only as 4 cylinder 2.0 liter engines - I have a diesel... and I am really big fan of it... The interior is bit more sophisticated compared to 2009 model
i have one from 2005 with 210 hp and I love that car. My dream is to buy a Porsche when I have more money, but then I know I will miss the comfort of the driver seat. Your review is quite on point, but I have actually never used the crotch pocket. Mostly because my phone can't be charged there and Im driving alone anyway.
Volvo S60 P2 is sedan version of V70 P2 so this one is predecessor to S80 P3. Volvo changed little bit markings with P3. First S80 is a another model even though it being in P2 platform also.
Love a Volvo great review
Would be interesting to compare sound systems. Mine p2 was insanely amazing
Love the video mate and love you mate, well done 🎉😊
I love you too!!
I have a P2 2004 S80 2.4 5-cil 170hp non turbo. Almost two years now, it's so comfortable to drive ❤ Planning to keep it for long. (I have a yt shorth with the acceleration) Edit: thnx for the good and funny video.
P3 was compromised by sharing a Ford platform. It did not have Volvo proportions. The front overhang particularly.
I will always love the first generation Volvo S80 I have a the first generation executive t6 premier very nice and beautiful and very high quality car
Interesting comparison and you actually gave better insight the most of the automotive media. The core of the problem was not random Ford parts that people want to make a mountain out of a mole hill out of (Volvo was permitted to maintain separate engine lines, were given superior transmissions than what they had during their own management that Ford was willing to pay a premium from third party vendors to get instead of using their own in house designs, most of the interior is unique to the model, and remember that Volvo used joint venture designs in the past like the PRV engine and the DeLorean used interior parts from them so it's not like every Volvo was 100% unique to Volvo alone). It wasn't Ford cheapening it (Ford improved that part). And I don't think it was the styling or the platform as I think this was still based off of a Volvo platform just Ford shared it.
It was they transitioned from LUXURY to luxury SPORT. This and the price increase that would go with it more than anything else would alienate customers. When you need a vehicle that is about comfort more than anything else you understand this principle. You don't care about a lot of these other things as long as it gets you from point A to point B in comfort.
It might be rough shape and look like poop but ill let you know that this engine and those seats will serve you if you drive to the moon and back, strong non turbo engines and most comfy seats ever... i have same seats on my 2002 S60 and 2.4i , it has 300k km goes like new. More comfy than my 2015 Polestar V60
Ik heb een handgeschakelde S80 2.5T uit 2003. Erg fijne auto. Volgens mij ook best zeldzaam met een handbak.
Be nice to have the p3 t6 engine/ transmission in the p2 body
If you have the transmission/Gearbox mount from an S60 p2, you can definitely have the Six Speed Automatic fit into a p2 s80.
@abdelaziz855 thx for your reply, what about the electronics though? Would definitely need the p3 donors ecu’s yes?
@@muckle8 yeah on the
electrical parts it would be a very Complicated process, and most very likely it would need a Volvo Technician/Tuner that knows how to work on Aisin Auto Gearboxes.
Although, You most definitely would need a wiring harness, Transmission control module with Code that fits the Gearbox itself, and a Proper not very high mileage but mid or low mileage Aisin Tf80sc Gearbox.
Note: you would also need to Rewire a couple of things, as for the Ecu from a P3 Doner car, i think you wouldn't need it, since i do not think P3s have a separated Unit managers like the P2 cars.
@abdelaziz855 probably easier , cheaper and faster to fit the p2 body to the p3 car !
I have a 2003 P2 S80 2.5T with manual tranny. Would go for the T6, but they made only automatic ones. Great DD and sort of a sleeper too - no one expects a grey old clumsy Volvo to take off like that.
I have a 2008 volvo s80 t6 3.0 Awd Polestar 315 hp. good solid car so far 😊 there are only 52 volvo s80 t6 2008 in Sweden so it is rare,
Having owned both, I would say the P2 was way better in terms of build quality.
To which should i change my s80 p2? This was my best car and i dunno if s90 or something else will satisfy me
That presenter has talent.
Thank you so much!
Very nice!!
Very good
you can change the steering assistance and lightness in the settings of the later model car.
crotch pocket. lol
Crotch pocket is the GOAT
They both look pretty nice. But always heard the 2001s were very unreliable and often broke down. Maybe it’s the twin turbo version particularly. That’s why the 01 can be had for a song. These problems were ironed out in the P3s, so the story goes. For value I think the P3 wins hands down.
9:50 I think you are exaggerating this
The intro 😂😂😂
Volvo had an S80 V8 with 315 hp in the late noughties when I'm not totally wrong...
P2 is based on a FORD platform. P3 is a different story,thanks to GEELY MOTORS
Volvo 🛡️⚖️⚔️💯
2:50 i accept the fight. V70 p26 looks better.
Neat
Maybe you should think about how long time it usually takes to develop a car, - and when Volvo was bought by Ford.. there is so little Ford in that car...
Exactly. Have yet to encounter any ford components in my 2000model and I quite like it. Where could I find any btw?
1st generation definitely built better that the ford owned mk2
Did you see the part of the video where the P2 center console fell apart
@@TopherParkerCars With about 10 years of experience with Volvos, P2 is higher quality than P3 but not much.
P3 had rust issues, faulty keys, failing ecm's, fuel pumps etc. Taking into consideration that Ford had massive funds for their Rnd compared to Volvo in late 90's the P3 wasnt that great. P2 4-speed automatic is gm-made and thats why its bad, Aisin made 5-speed transmissions are bulletproof.
2.9 was average engine, the T6 was good enough, but maintenance was horrible ordeal. The true winners are 5-cylinder diesel engines and 2,4t and 2,5t engines which could last 400k to 500k without any issues. During Ford's ownership Volvo lost some of its identity and tried to appeal to owners of german cars.
XC70 and V70 are propably the best of the P3 platform.
The newer s80 isnt bad, its actually a lot better to drive, but not as comfy as the old model. Legendary Peter Horbury desinged the older model which was the last true Volvo of the two.
ITS a Werevolvo, BMW at day and a Werevolvo at night 😂
I'll buy it . 2001 S80 @ 1,000.00
Review that is completely ruined by a lanky teenager who belongs in a Renault Twingo
I would love to review a Renault Twingo!
V70R bite me
WRONG 👎
I’ve got both P3 S80 and P2 S60 R
@@fredaydaybae8450 Very nice combo
@@calamityyy I’m LOVING the S80. All options without the trouble of the V8. I’m good. The R is annoying to drive sometimes because it’s so small but it’s a sports car so I expect that.
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Who gave this kid a car ?? I feel like I'm watching year 7 school boy telling me about stupid jokes he makes in Volvo and about pockets for his weed i guess !! I can't watch this !! Go play with toys boy !!
Who let this guy with second grade grammar into my comments when he only watched 15 seconds of the video? Go read a book boy!!
@TopherParkerCars hey bozo ! I watched all video ! and in relation t0 grammar, I'm wondering how many languages you know ?!? by the way what book you read recently?!