I mean, all the people he encountered. They could have given each other something instead. He s meeting so many interesting and beautiful people, but he turns them down and continues on hes road to nothing.
One of the greatest modern films ever made. Mike Leigh's absolute masterpiece about soul-devouring nihilism and the equally bleak prospect of its opposite. You can't watch and experience this film without becoming a different person.
I've never understood if he's referring to Johnny's life or his own, like, if he was advising Johnny not to waste his life as he did himself, or if he is urging Johnny not to waste his life whining about how pointless and unfair the universe is and instead find some degree of meaning however possible...I mean, it seems like it could go both ways
I took it as kind of both. Like the unspoken subtext was, "You're still young, but you'll be my age before you know it, so stop torturing yourself over how fucked the world is and do something good with your life while you still can" sorta thing. Whatever the intention, it's one of the best scenes in the film. Brian the security guard is my favorite person in the film. I hope he eventually got to his cottage by the sea.
@Sterling Archer I did a similar job as the Brian character for over two years: you would not believe how much freedom there is in a job like that - there was no office politics or anyone to fall out with, you could sleep, turn up drunk, read to your hearts content and get paid for it.
@@Sam-tq5xv security at the front desk of a call centre office. Last person left at 10 pm and peace and quiet until the cleaners arrived at 5:30 am.I nearly got caught a few times mind - waking up from a deep sleep and pretending to be full alert in the space of barely 6 seconds was something I learned fast.
@@Sam-tq5xv It's all about control - when you've got the keys to the building and can deactivate the swipe pass for the underground car park you're fine.I find it amusing that you were drawn to the job after watching this film.I love it but as per usual Leigh is taking the mick out of looking down at "ordinary" people as he's done throughout his career.
Johnny and the security guard are one in the same. It is metaphysical transposing as in one resembling the visual antithesis of this perceived notion and the other representing what one doesn't want to view when said notion is exhibited. Both are capable of nihilism just like both are optimistic. In fact it is idealism that brings them together. In conclusion Johnny can do as he pleases in life and get away with it while the security guard is held to moral grounds.
@Misterioso how is being on the run after raping someone and living in poverty on the streets of London an example of someone "who can do as he pleases" - surely he's just as trapped as the life the security guard lives? Johnny is certainly not optimistic - his tiredness of life mixed with cynicism, sarcasm and no bullshit agenda which makes his character so appealing.There is no idealism here either - we are invited to view the sadness of peoples lives which to be fair Mike Leigh has made a career out of.
@@revol148 Is it explicitly a rape? It sounds consentual at first but goes bad. I always assumed he hurt her in some way and scared the girl he was with and scared himself, not that he was a rapist on the run. it always was a crazy way to introduce a main character but i never thought he was a full rapist.
@@jgooo101 I was thinking of the first scene of the film - where we see him have (non-consensual?) sex before his steals a nearby car and heads off south to miserable London
I was always under the impression that Johnny was not someone to be admired and that most of the things he says are supposed to be an illustration of the nihilistic and empty culture of the 1990's. Instead of doing anything, he just sits around spouting meaningless drivel. This movie, along with Clockwork Orange, Taxi driver, and Fear and Loathing is imo one of the most misinterpreted films ever.
I think Johnny is an example of what nihilistic consumer capitalist culture can do to someone who feels and thinks deeply/originally, the way it can make someone like that become twisted and broken. And Sebastian/Jeremy is the "ethos" (or lack thereof) of that kind of society taken to its utmost logical conclusion.
@VatesHQ To know that a life is "wasted" one would first have to know the purpose of life. A wasted life might very much look like a fulfilled life for all we know.
There's a general accepted standard to what a fulfilled life is. That standard is wrong, obviously, like any one-size-fits-all theory. If you read the rawest that ever lived, the early chinese zen masters, they say you are already whatever you could ever be, already complete. You cannot use mind to grasp mind. Knowing is delusion; not knowing is confusion. No matter to be known, no matter to not be known. No right way, no wrong way. Nothing is ever born, or ever perishes, all originally empty, no beginning, no end. Science eventually proven their view in many aspects. I've read a lot, you know, most people that are serious try to inquire into anything they hold, nothing I've ever came across was so firm as them, if there's any truth in this world, they saw it, or no one did.
@xARMINIUSx superior in what way? Johnny is highly intelligent but lost.The only answers he sees in life are doom. The security guard is optimistic and hopeful. If Johnny got the balance right, he would probably reflect the security guards nature. However, his pride and ego are far to big for him to address his own personal issues. "Dont waste your life", after this Johnnys life spirals out of control. It gets worse for him not better.
Good point, but look at the guy talking. Working night shifts at some shit place, and always living in the future, he knows what he s talking about. There s more to it, and they both know it. What he does is going around building people down and its making only losers ( himself included ), and that is in fact wasting hes life.
I don't think he was saying it in a self-righteous way. He was saying, "Look, I'm older than you and I know what it is to waste your life. Don't do it." Like maybe he felt he had wasted his life too, and he was saying it as advice to a younger, less experienced man.
@TheLastModernist Perhaps there's no such thing as a fulfilled or wasted life.I figure that concepts of Good and Evil,right and wrong,are all based on opinion.While opinion is essential,it isn't fact.The irony is that if you take this into account,we are left only with concepts of what is repectable and what is distasteful,and even then it's based on opinion.Funny how it all seems to click into place,wouldn't you say?
@L-Z Jo-Z except it doesn't "all seems to click into place" - most people live fucking dreadful lives from my observation and most die unfulfilled.Just look at the emptiness of the average marriage and the tedium of most jobs.
lol and one clueless guy named Martin who clearly has shit taste and wouldn't know a great film if it hit him upside the head. It truly does take all kinds.
@Martin Graham the second comment down is an example of that ! I kind of agree with you - the film is standard issue Mike Leigh - just him taking the piss out of the little people in this world.
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I mean, all the people he encountered. They could have given each other something instead. He s meeting so many interesting and beautiful people, but he turns them down and continues on hes road to nothing.
Maybe the guy did give him something. It seemed to hit home. Maybe later on...
One of the greatest modern films ever made. Mike Leigh's absolute masterpiece about soul-devouring nihilism and the equally bleak prospect of its opposite. You can't watch and experience this film without becoming a different person.
Without connecting, persons speak only to themselves.
I've never understood if he's referring to Johnny's life or his own, like, if he was advising Johnny not to waste his life as he did himself, or if he is urging Johnny not to waste his life whining about how pointless and unfair the universe is and instead find some degree of meaning however possible...I mean, it seems like it could go both ways
I took it as kind of both. Like the unspoken subtext was, "You're still young, but you'll be my age before you know it, so stop torturing yourself over how fucked the world is and do something good with your life while you still can" sorta thing. Whatever the intention, it's one of the best scenes in the film. Brian the security guard is my favorite person in the film. I hope he eventually got to his cottage by the sea.
@Sterling Archer I did a similar job as the Brian character for over two years: you would not believe how much freedom there is in a job like that - there was no office politics or anyone to fall out with, you could sleep, turn up drunk, read to your hearts content and get paid for it.
@@Sam-tq5xv security at the front desk of a call centre office. Last person left at 10 pm and peace and quiet until the cleaners arrived at 5:30 am.I nearly got caught a few times mind - waking up from a deep sleep and pretending to be full alert in the space of barely 6 seconds was something I learned fast.
@@Sam-tq5xv here's the deal: you pay me minimum wage and I'll do the absolute minimum !
@@Sam-tq5xv It's all about control - when you've got the keys to the building and can deactivate the swipe pass for the underground car park you're fine.I find it amusing that you were drawn to the job after watching this film.I love it but as per usual Leigh is taking the mick out of looking down at "ordinary" people as he's done throughout his career.
One of my favourite films
Most important things are said when not a word is spoken.
based
1:15 - she is more beautiful than Julia Roberts
Gina McKee, wonderful in everything, especially Our Friends In The North
1:29 dirty nails. this movie man.
great music in the flick
(too)
Sanity is a small box...
Johnny and the security guard are one in the same. It is metaphysical transposing as in one resembling the visual antithesis of this perceived notion and the other representing what one doesn't want to view when said notion is exhibited. Both are capable of nihilism just like both are optimistic. In fact it is idealism that brings them together. In conclusion Johnny can do as he pleases in life and get away with it while the security guard is held to moral grounds.
@Misterioso how is being on the run after raping someone and living in poverty on the streets of London an example of someone "who can do as he pleases" - surely he's just as trapped as the life the security guard lives? Johnny is certainly not optimistic - his tiredness of life mixed with cynicism, sarcasm and no bullshit agenda which makes his character so appealing.There is no idealism here either - we are invited to view the sadness of peoples lives which to be fair Mike Leigh has made a career out of.
@Misterioso Just shut the fuck up.
Submit your film thesis to your tutor.
Don't do it on here.
@@revol148 Is it explicitly a rape? It sounds consentual at first but goes bad. I always assumed he hurt her in some way and scared the girl he was with and scared himself, not that he was a rapist on the run. it always was a crazy way to introduce a main character but i never thought he was a full rapist.
@@jgooo101 I was thinking of the first scene of the film - where we see him have (non-consensual?) sex before his steals a nearby car and heads off south to miserable London
@@revol148 Yes I was talking about that scene. It sounds consensual ta first and then he hurts her or something and runs off.
Great film saw it 1995
@NoFapTate go away.
Forgotten this film, great flick.
It's like John Lennon narrating your life.
I was always under the impression that Johnny was not someone to be admired and that most of the things he says are supposed to be an illustration of the nihilistic and empty culture of the 1990's. Instead of doing anything, he just sits around spouting meaningless drivel. This movie, along with Clockwork Orange, Taxi driver, and Fear and Loathing is imo one of the most misinterpreted films ever.
I think Johnny is an example of what nihilistic consumer capitalist culture can do to someone who feels and thinks deeply/originally, the way it can make someone like that become twisted and broken. And Sebastian/Jeremy is the "ethos" (or lack thereof) of that kind of society taken to its utmost logical conclusion.
That is the only way to interpret this movie. To idolise would be to completely miss the point.
Lol, I don't think people are idolizing Johnny
@@jackieboyborden I was until now
@VatesHQ To know that a life is "wasted" one would first have to know the purpose of life.
A wasted life might very much look like a fulfilled life for all we know.
There's a general accepted standard to what a fulfilled life is. That standard is wrong, obviously, like any one-size-fits-all theory.
If you read the rawest that ever lived, the early chinese zen masters, they say you are already whatever you could ever be, already complete. You cannot use mind to grasp mind. Knowing is delusion; not knowing is confusion. No matter to be known, no matter to not be known. No right way, no wrong way. Nothing is ever born, or ever perishes, all originally empty, no beginning, no end. Science eventually proven their view in many aspects.
I've read a lot, you know, most people that are serious try to inquire into anything they hold, nothing I've ever came across was so firm as them, if there's any truth in this world, they saw it, or no one did.
He has nowhere to stay and nothing to return to. “Fulfilled” life may take many shapes or forms, but this is clearly not it.
@xARMINIUSx superior in what way? Johnny is highly intelligent but lost.The only answers he sees in life are doom. The security guard is optimistic and hopeful. If Johnny got the balance right, he would probably reflect the security guards nature. However, his pride and ego are far to big for him to address his own personal issues. "Dont waste your life", after this Johnnys life spirals out of control. It gets worse for him not better.
0:13, "bonnzjüühr" : )
Good point, but look at the guy talking. Working night shifts at some shit place, and always living in the future, he knows what he s talking about. There s more to it, and they both know it.
What he does is going around building people down and its making only losers ( himself included ), and that is in fact wasting hes life.
I don't think he was saying it in a self-righteous way. He was saying, "Look, I'm older than you and I know what it is to waste your life. Don't do it." Like maybe he felt he had wasted his life too, and he was saying it as advice to a younger, less experienced man.
That women in the cafe is so crazy I meant a few women like this in my time
He plays frank a pimp in meat and funny enough they hang around the cafe alot
@Leibo07 excuse me, what jack nicholson movie is your avatar from?
The normie vs the black pill.
Take your meds
@@Hioojbgyijnn is it that crazy? despair vs hope.
Is the "black pill" being a nihilistic, consumerist, algophobic to alternatives, spectator of capitalist society?
@@suicidalbomber8048 Yes.
@TheLastModernist Perhaps there's no such thing as a fulfilled or wasted life.I figure that concepts of Good and Evil,right and wrong,are all based on opinion.While opinion is essential,it isn't fact.The irony is that if you take this into account,we are left only with concepts of what is repectable and what is distasteful,and even then it's based on opinion.Funny how it all seems to click into place,wouldn't you say?
@L-Z Jo-Z except it doesn't "all seems to click into place" - most people live fucking dreadful lives from my observation and most die unfulfilled.Just look at the emptiness of the average marriage and the tedium of most jobs.
@MaceEBoy "Which is in itself a cliche..."
why not?
Do you know where I could find the soundtrack by any chance?
Best I can do right now. But you should be able to find it, surely.
ruclips.net/video/oajrkb1IoEU/видео.html
David is absolutely gorgeous in this film. Just a shame about the accent
I find it so irritating. Where is from?
@@patricianarita8575 It's a Manc accent
I've even a female troll 😂
I meant I've even had a female troll she was a prat.
lost marbles, loony bin
In the comments: Pretentious people giving obscure philosophical meanings to this dull and crappy film.
lol and one clueless guy named Martin who clearly has shit taste and wouldn't know a great film if it hit him upside the head. It truly does take all kinds.
By film you mean your life 😂
don't waste your life
@Martin Graham the second comment down is an example of that ! I kind of agree with you - the film is standard issue Mike Leigh - just him taking the piss out of the little people in this world.
Wear your ignorance proudly Martin 👏👏