If I’m being honest, I’ve got involved first in the Kamen Rider franchise all because of the form changes! I kept watching countless videos of the form changes and it never gets old. Also this is my way of distinguishing different forms: 1. Base Form (Basically the main form-) 2. Random Forms (any forms that’s not really a true power up but still gives different powers) 3. Upgrade Form (The first true power up just below Super Form) 4. Super Form (A powerful form with sometimes a better design than the final form-) 5. Final Form (The true ultimate power of each rider’s respective series, outside of movies and other extra contents) 6. Final Episode Form (These I see most prominently during the Reiwa era, although it kinda started with Build’s Rabbit Dragon form. The fully gold and silver form btw not the movie form) 7. Extra Forms (Any forms that are outside of the main series. Movies, video games, manga- you name it)
Upgrade form really was weird it first appeared at kuuga the the rising and the stopped appearing for a while wizard has them though i i just call them super forms rather than upgrade and then it dissapear and appear again at ghost onward
1:30 I don't have an issue with OOO's combos names honestly, I just choose to pronounce them how they best sound. So I don't pronounse the yellow combo as "Lataratar", but as "Lahtorahta", sounds better.
@@KingZoru_VT You know, it might be clever both for viewer convenience and watchtime maximization to link the other videos you mentioned in the description.
For me, I like having a few riders with at least one or two forms. Specifically, a Power Rangers team full of riders. Even if Kamen Rider War Robots has 10 riders, which is going off Dino charge.
7:30 Phillip is the right side and Shotaro is the left side. *SPOILER ALERT* Those are literally in their names, HIDARI(left) Shotaro and Sonozaki RIGHT.
Idk what it's called but I'm obsessed with the "supposed to be final form" form. The final form that they would have without much miracle or shenanigans. Like how Shining Hopper was developed alongside the driver, Ex Aid Level 5 was the highest level to unlock before Emu or Kuroto create new Gashat with unconventional method, Saber use three wonder ride book as all the next forms are created out of miracle or forbidden, Gotchard X is technically the highest he can go since 10 is the highest and in order to get to next form he literally either go to the past or suffer. Revice Volcano Rex was the final form that George intended for Revice before his dad comes into the picture
W and OOO are my favorites because the form changes are at that perfect middle ground of "versatile but limited" where you can see them be used in interesting and creative ways and there isn't a deluge of forms such that they get lost in the wash. Small moments like when Ankh throws Eiji the Rhino, Eel and Hopper medals and he's like, "Huh?" but when he combines them to get a powerful leaping headbutt attack he's like, "Oh, that's why" - the cinematography didn't really draw much attention to that moment but adds so much to selling the form change as a fun idea. I think the span from Den-O to Wizard was a sort of "golden age of form changes" because every Rider utilized their changes regularly and they were distinct, with enough to have variety but also not so many such that you just forget most of the forms exist. Zero One has the same number of "core" form changes as OOO but since they're only really used in the first segment of the series it's easy to forget them whereas OOO you can remember each form and even what each medal specifically does since they're used throughout the entire show and even the final form is something that the writing emphasizes, "Do not use this unless you have to." One of the issues I think that Gaim onwards has is that the introduction of a "quarter 1 form" and sometimes even a "completed quarter 1 form" in addition to a super and final form can easily cause the main form changes to become overlooked, because the writing tends to favor having the Rider use what is his current strongest form. It basically means that for each stage you're only going to get about 12 episodes with it, and for the main form changes that means you get maybe one debut episode before they're discarded for most of the series. Gotchard actually has directly addressed this by making Chemies integrated in most of the stages of upgrades, with Fire, Platinum and Rainbow all integrating different uses for the Chemies to keep them relevant within the context of the fight choreography.
If you need another Rider video, you could look into a pattern I've personally dubbed Sentai Basis: beginning with Gaim, each Rider series has derived notable elements of its conception from the ongoing Sentai series.
The OOO combos don't roll off the tongue? They literally have both jingles and songs to sell them and drill in how they're said, they should be the some of the most earworm names in Kamen Rider.
The fun fact is there’s no real “final-form”. It’s just the last upgrade form we see in TV series…for Toei, they only have base-form (aka incomplete form work as base for basic main form or upgrade form, only very few kamen rider have this form), basic main form (the favourites form representing that kamen rider) and all form after that was classified as upgrade form.
I think that Riderman's Casette Arms and Super-1's Five Hands should be recognised here as well, functioning very similarly to Kuuga's forms. (And arguably the variety of Ridol weapons that X has could be seen as a progenitor to say Agito's forms as well). And of course obviously Stronger with his Charge Up form, but that's a Super/Final form, so that's a different video.
You give me a samurai-themed form, be it base form or any kind of alternate form, and I'm all over it like butter. Even Gotchard's Appareskebow is aces with me, and I've not been happy with most of Gotchard. That being said, I know people will leap on the idea that form changes are just Badai's way of trying to get money, but I think people forget that there is an economic element as well. These form changes really represent the state of Japan's economy. I doubt they could continue to pump dozens of form changes if they weren't selling or if the people at Bandai weren't convinced they could sell well. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure budget and economic limitations are one of the bigger reasons why we didn't see as many form changes in the later half of Showa and a subdued amount in the earlier half of Heisei. In a way, I think Heisei might've had the right idea. Shows like Gotchard and Ex-Aid had so many form changes that it's easy for some fans to forget about some of them, and that's not a good thing. When the fans are taking the form changes for granted, they stop being something special. I would love to see a Reiwa Rider that dials it back a little bit so that fans can appreciate the few form changes that do appear. Some Riders, like Kuuga, had different forms for specific purposes. Dragon Form was about increased agility, Pegasus was for ranged attacks, Titan was for durability and sword fighting, and Mighty was a well balanced standard form. It would be great to see more of these purpose-driven forms rather than just a bunch of random forms thrown in just because Bandai said so.
7:34 i would say those three Gaia Memory on Shotaro's side are for W's combat style. With Joker being close ranged combat style, Metal being a weaponized close ranged combat style, while Trigger is just self explanatory of itself providing W with a gun. That my take on that
W's combination is explained in the opening, silly! W-B-X! Futari no *body and soul* Shotaro's memories represents the body (fighting style), Philip's the soul (strategic approach). As to why is it called Joker, it's meant to represent the idea of the wild card, being able to adjust oneself to any demanding situation. Yes it's kind of a reach, but the idea is Joker represents the peak of human performance. The Joker memory unlocks a human's full potential, which is somewhat poetic that in a series where humans are using Gaia memories to become less human, W embraces humanity and unlock its full potential... Until they realize they can take up arms and just shoot the baddies down with Trigger of course
I might be biassed, but i kinda miss how special form changing is to the series itself. Yes, we still had that but nowadays whenever a Rider gained a new form or power up it mostly treat as throwaway and wa get without any form of stuggle what so ever (mostly due to how the form being attained by having side character throw a new power up items to the main character like it was a lottery ticket), the only time it was felt special is when the rider attain their super form & final form. As a result, most of the form debut in modern season didn't really felt that grandioses and instead just felt "Oh, he got a new form, ok😒😒" This is one thing i like about the earlier heisei season. Because aside from Kuuga, Den-O, Kiva, & to extent Agito a lot of the riders in this season only had two or three form with mostly comprise of the Base, Super, & Final form itself complete with their own personal struggle themselve. So whenever a rider get a new form, it felt truly special (Kuuga in particular despite having the most form in early heisei next to Den-O. Most of the form felt special, because unlike the modern riders, Godai had to train day & night while learning new skill to gain each of his form capabilities)
For Toei, there’s only base form work as layer to access other form, main form or basic form which they advertised vs upgrade form. Some basic form work as base form too like zero one rising hopper vs saber vs revice as example. Tho, in some series like Den-0 vs Geats, base form only appear as pre-form (plat form vs entry form). Despite that Geats known for his Boost Magnum. So depend on series, we can identify which is base form and which is basic form and which form can be upgrade further on. Still, i think Toei is too complicate to seperate these two, cause some base form only appear very weak or very few time.
i really did think that OOO did it best, not only with its cool system where you could swap put the parts, and the full combos. but with how the story played with the whole gimmick, having OOO constantly gain and lose medals as the story went on, constantly changing what combos and forms he had acsess to at any given time, which forced some fun creativity into the series.
The writing also encouraged random combinations instead of just booming to a specific form as well. Like in most Riders there's no reason to not use their best form right out of the gate whereas in OOO the element of risk to using Core Medals inherently tells Eiji to not use Combos, especially Putotyra. By the time his body has adapted to be able to use Combos, medals have started to change hands a lot and he just doesn't have them, but just the aspect of establishing Combos as more exhausting leans the writers into preferring to use random combos. Also Ankh's character means that Eiji is unlikely to use Tajador unless it's necessary. Plus each Medal having a highly specific and limited but unique ability means that there's a lot more room for creativity. Sometimes going straight for a Combo may not be as effective. If OOO is fighting some fast and stealthy enemy maybe he wants mobility, defense, and the ability to track it so you'd want something like Shachi-Kujaku-Batta. Maybe the enemy is resistant to damage and needs to be taken out in a single hit, so you'd want a combo like Lion-Unagi-Zou to stun them, then grab them and pull them in for a heavy kick. Maybe there are a bunch of trash Yummies to take out so OOO would use Kuwagata and Cheetah to run through the crowd and zap them all.
Back when the tv ratings matters more than toy sales. The broadcast time was during prime time too. Stronger and skyrider did receive an upgrade later. Bio rider powers is whatever the writer want it to be. Like wizard story, it’s forms is kind of bland and repetitive unlike kuuga. Maybe the kind of cgi it used blend them all together. On the other hand, a lot of kuuga still hold up especially if you remake the suit.
combat
Joker - Hand-to-hand combat
Trigger - Marksman combat
Metal - Melee combat
Element and combat huh ? I like that theme
I would say attributes but that works
If I’m being honest, I’ve got involved first in the Kamen Rider franchise all because of the form changes! I kept watching countless videos of the form changes and it never gets old.
Also this is my way of distinguishing different forms:
1. Base Form (Basically the main form-)
2. Random Forms (any forms that’s not really a true power up but still gives different powers)
3. Upgrade Form (The first true power up just below Super Form)
4. Super Form (A powerful form with sometimes a better design than the final form-)
5. Final Form (The true ultimate power of each rider’s respective series, outside of movies and other extra contents)
6. Final Episode Form (These I see most prominently during the Reiwa era, although it kinda started with Build’s Rabbit Dragon form. The fully gold and silver form btw not the movie form)
7. Extra Forms (Any forms that are outside of the main series. Movies, video games, manga- you name it)
Upgrade form really was weird it first appeared at kuuga the the rising and the stopped appearing for a while wizard has them though i i just call them super forms rather than upgrade and then it dissapear and appear again at ghost onward
@@fashilram7313 They are upgrade forms, All Dragon is the super form
This is exactly how I distinguish the forms too.
1:30 I don't have an issue with OOO's combos names honestly, I just choose to pronounce them how they best sound. So I don't pronounse the yellow combo as "Lataratar", but as "Lahtorahta", sounds better.
Yup, sometimes I pronounce it as Ratorata instead of Latorata
Yeah it honestly fun to sing the names, 'tah-toh-bah', 'rah-tora-tah', 'puh-tooh-tyra'
Stronger and BLACK RX: "I guess you guys aren't ready for that yet, but your kids are gonna love it"
True
9:32 I had to fight the urge to sing "THE WAY YOURE MAKING ME FEEL TONIGHT" after hearing simple & clean.
Skipping past Saber, Revice AND Geats all at once was mildly heartbreaking, ngl 😢
I know!! I just know that I’ve spoken on at least Revice and Geats quite a bit already and I wanted to spend time on others 🥹
@@KingZoru_VT You know, it might be clever both for viewer convenience and watchtime maximization to link the other videos you mentioned in the description.
Good call! I will keep that in mind for next time and probably come back to throw some links in this one ☺️ thanks for the suggestion!!
Then what about Saber? I think his forms deserve to be looked at too
I like having different combinations like double than multiple forms.
For me, I like having a few riders with at least one or two forms. Specifically, a Power Rangers team full of riders. Even if Kamen Rider War Robots has 10 riders, which is going off Dino charge.
Combi Riders like Double,OOO (RIP Eiji), Build, Saber and Geats should have done a crossover movie together, the form changes scenes would been crazy
@@kimomaru5380 imaging rabbit joker or cyclone tank 🔥
Omg you uploaded no way!!!
Shotaro's Gaia Memories define Double's fighting style, while Philip's enhance that style with special abilities.
That is one GOOD looking thumbnail.
7:30 Phillip is the right side and Shotaro is the left side. *SPOILER ALERT*
Those are literally in their names,
HIDARI(left) Shotaro and
Sonozaki RIGHT.
Oh! I didn’t even realize I mixed them up- I may have accidentally said their sides from my perspective 😅 thanks for the catch!!
@@KingZoru_VT yeah, that happens. Thanks for the heart.
Idk what it's called but I'm obsessed with the "supposed to be final form" form. The final form that they would have without much miracle or shenanigans. Like how Shining Hopper was developed alongside the driver, Ex Aid Level 5 was the highest level to unlock before Emu or Kuroto create new Gashat with unconventional method, Saber use three wonder ride book as all the next forms are created out of miracle or forbidden, Gotchard X is technically the highest he can go since 10 is the highest and in order to get to next form he literally either go to the past or suffer. Revice Volcano Rex was the final form that George intended for Revice before his dad comes into the picture
Just want to mention that the first Kamen Rider with a form change was Kamen Rider Stronger with his Charge Up form
W and OOO are my favorites because the form changes are at that perfect middle ground of "versatile but limited" where you can see them be used in interesting and creative ways and there isn't a deluge of forms such that they get lost in the wash. Small moments like when Ankh throws Eiji the Rhino, Eel and Hopper medals and he's like, "Huh?" but when he combines them to get a powerful leaping headbutt attack he's like, "Oh, that's why" - the cinematography didn't really draw much attention to that moment but adds so much to selling the form change as a fun idea.
I think the span from Den-O to Wizard was a sort of "golden age of form changes" because every Rider utilized their changes regularly and they were distinct, with enough to have variety but also not so many such that you just forget most of the forms exist. Zero One has the same number of "core" form changes as OOO but since they're only really used in the first segment of the series it's easy to forget them whereas OOO you can remember each form and even what each medal specifically does since they're used throughout the entire show and even the final form is something that the writing emphasizes, "Do not use this unless you have to."
One of the issues I think that Gaim onwards has is that the introduction of a "quarter 1 form" and sometimes even a "completed quarter 1 form" in addition to a super and final form can easily cause the main form changes to become overlooked, because the writing tends to favor having the Rider use what is his current strongest form. It basically means that for each stage you're only going to get about 12 episodes with it, and for the main form changes that means you get maybe one debut episode before they're discarded for most of the series.
Gotchard actually has directly addressed this by making Chemies integrated in most of the stages of upgrades, with Fire, Platinum and Rainbow all integrating different uses for the Chemies to keep them relevant within the context of the fight choreography.
If you need another Rider video, you could look into a pattern I've personally dubbed Sentai Basis: beginning with Gaim, each Rider series has derived notable elements of its conception from the ongoing Sentai series.
The OOO combos don't roll off the tongue? They literally have both jingles and songs to sell them and drill in how they're said, they should be the some of the most earworm names in Kamen Rider.
What does “earworm” means?
Also I agree saying the forms in their respective jingle is so fun-
@@onyxwolfreaper21 it gets stuck in your head
@@theraginginfernape9496 Ohhhhh
Oh lord, I absolutely love the OOO combos.
I remember EVERY form name because of those damn jingles and songs. 😂
@@kuroiphox989 What’s your personal favourites?
Stronger had the very first, but bro got skipped lol
Funny thing KR Stronger does have a final form
The first rider to have an alternative form-
and i see this comment after posting my own talkin about Stronger's Charge Up form.
The fun fact is there’s no real “final-form”. It’s just the last upgrade form we see in TV series…for Toei, they only have base-form (aka incomplete form work as base for basic main form or upgrade form, only very few kamen rider have this form), basic main form (the favourites form representing that kamen rider) and all form after that was classified as upgrade form.
Hah, was about to mention Stronger's Charge Up form. Although I wouldn't consider it a final form, more of a power-up form.
I think that Riderman's Casette Arms and Super-1's Five Hands should be recognised here as well, functioning very similarly to Kuuga's forms. (And arguably the variety of Ridol weapons that X has could be seen as a progenitor to say Agito's forms as well). And of course obviously Stronger with his Charge Up form, but that's a Super/Final form, so that's a different video.
You give me a samurai-themed form, be it base form or any kind of alternate form, and I'm all over it like butter. Even Gotchard's Appareskebow is aces with me, and I've not been happy with most of Gotchard.
That being said, I know people will leap on the idea that form changes are just Badai's way of trying to get money, but I think people forget that there is an economic element as well. These form changes really represent the state of Japan's economy. I doubt they could continue to pump dozens of form changes if they weren't selling or if the people at Bandai weren't convinced they could sell well. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure budget and economic limitations are one of the bigger reasons why we didn't see as many form changes in the later half of Showa and a subdued amount in the earlier half of Heisei.
In a way, I think Heisei might've had the right idea. Shows like Gotchard and Ex-Aid had so many form changes that it's easy for some fans to forget about some of them, and that's not a good thing. When the fans are taking the form changes for granted, they stop being something special. I would love to see a Reiwa Rider that dials it back a little bit so that fans can appreciate the few form changes that do appear. Some Riders, like Kuuga, had different forms for specific purposes. Dragon Form was about increased agility, Pegasus was for ranged attacks, Titan was for durability and sword fighting, and Mighty was a well balanced standard form. It would be great to see more of these purpose-driven forms rather than just a bunch of random forms thrown in just because Bandai said so.
The only reason TOEI introduced form changing gimmick.
TOEI and BANDAI- Hello, I like money😂😂
Simple and effective
Honestly, I don't blame them... Except for when there are way too many forms.
Looking at you, Gotchard.
@VinhMai-jt3ot Gotchard's worse because at least with OOO and Build, the plot of the show was interesting.
He can transform into the staypuff marshmallow man
I always looked at the final forms as the battlizers of kamen rider.
7:34 i would say those three Gaia Memory on Shotaro's side are for W's combat style. With Joker being close ranged combat style, Metal being a weaponized close ranged combat style, while Trigger is just self explanatory of itself providing W with a gun. That my take on that
W's combination is explained in the opening, silly!
W-B-X!
Futari no *body and soul*
Shotaro's memories represents the body (fighting style), Philip's the soul (strategic approach). As to why is it called Joker, it's meant to represent the idea of the wild card, being able to adjust oneself to any demanding situation. Yes it's kind of a reach, but the idea is Joker represents the peak of human performance.
The Joker memory unlocks a human's full potential, which is somewhat poetic that in a series where humans are using Gaia memories to become less human, W embraces humanity and unlock its full potential... Until they realize they can take up arms and just shoot the baddies down with Trigger of course
7:34
Shotaro is the weapon
Phillip is the element
I kind of hope with the chip swords, they break after a couple hits, leading him to having to use his armor to “reload” the swords
I might be biassed, but i kinda miss how special form changing is to the series itself. Yes, we still had that but nowadays whenever a Rider gained a new form or power up it mostly treat as throwaway and wa get without any form of stuggle what so ever (mostly due to how the form being attained by having side character throw a new power up items to the main character like it was a lottery ticket), the only time it was felt special is when the rider attain their super form & final form. As a result, most of the form debut in modern season didn't really felt that grandioses and instead just felt "Oh, he got a new form, ok😒😒"
This is one thing i like about the earlier heisei season. Because aside from Kuuga, Den-O, Kiva, & to extent Agito a lot of the riders in this season only had two or three form with mostly comprise of the Base, Super, & Final form itself complete with their own personal struggle themselve. So whenever a rider get a new form, it felt truly special (Kuuga in particular despite having the most form in early heisei next to Den-O. Most of the form felt special, because unlike the modern riders, Godai had to train day & night while learning new skill to gain each of his form capabilities)
Isn't stronger upgrade considered as first "final form"
My favorite final forms are mostly from heisei phase 1
For Toei, there’s only base form work as layer to access other form, main form or basic form which they advertised vs upgrade form. Some basic form work as base form too like zero one rising hopper vs saber vs revice as example. Tho, in some series like Den-0 vs Geats, base form only appear as pre-form (plat form vs entry form). Despite that Geats known for his Boost Magnum. So depend on series, we can identify which is base form and which is basic form and which form can be upgrade further on.
Still, i think Toei is too complicate to seperate these two, cause some base form only appear very weak or very few time.
Yay😊
100 out of 100 jokes will watch again
My Favourite Form Changes would be Wizard,Gaim,and Kuuga.
Kamen Rider Black RX had Robo Rider and Bio Rider suits 🙂😎👍
Gabu is the way the pronounce it
Like bit! Omg!!
They went full force (haha) with the sweets theme
No its definitely gavu as thats how its spelt in the logo
Gabu and gavu are likely correct as b and v aren’t different sound in japan
I just wish kamen rider have more anime, W anime was sort of good but it’s not enough since it only had 12 episodes
i really did think that OOO did it best, not only with its cool system where you could swap put the parts, and the full combos. but with how the story played with the whole gimmick, having OOO constantly gain and lose medals as the story went on, constantly changing what combos and forms he had acsess to at any given time, which forced some fun creativity into the series.
The writing also encouraged random combinations instead of just booming to a specific form as well. Like in most Riders there's no reason to not use their best form right out of the gate whereas in OOO the element of risk to using Core Medals inherently tells Eiji to not use Combos, especially Putotyra. By the time his body has adapted to be able to use Combos, medals have started to change hands a lot and he just doesn't have them, but just the aspect of establishing Combos as more exhausting leans the writers into preferring to use random combos. Also Ankh's character means that Eiji is unlikely to use Tajador unless it's necessary.
Plus each Medal having a highly specific and limited but unique ability means that there's a lot more room for creativity. Sometimes going straight for a Combo may not be as effective. If OOO is fighting some fast and stealthy enemy maybe he wants mobility, defense, and the ability to track it so you'd want something like Shachi-Kujaku-Batta. Maybe the enemy is resistant to damage and needs to be taken out in a single hit, so you'd want a combo like Lion-Unagi-Zou to stun them, then grab them and pull them in for a heavy kick. Maybe there are a bunch of trash Yummies to take out so OOO would use Kuwagata and Cheetah to run through the crowd and zap them all.
doesn't ankh give eiji the medals most suited for the situation@@Zetact_
Some of Gotchard's are only in Wild Mode.
Some rider have so much forms, that those forms become obsolete just 10 episodes more or less into the series run😂
Back when the tv ratings matters more than toy sales. The broadcast time was during prime time too. Stronger and skyrider did receive an upgrade later. Bio rider powers is whatever the writer want it to be. Like wizard story, it’s forms is kind of bland and repetitive unlike kuuga. Maybe the kind of cgi it used blend them all together. On the other hand, a lot of kuuga still hold up especially if you remake the suit.
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Tbh, imma just skip on Gavv too. I might give it a go if I hear its bearable enough. But ehhhh
If I were you, try at least 5 episodes in then you can decide whether it’s good or bad-
1st
@@fabrizzio9943 nobody cares, sorry
The form changes are so gimmicky.
And fun af