Finally someone with honest opinion. Sponsored RUclipsrs are not talking at all about the issues you mentioned.I do agree 100% it´s a great Vlogging Cam.
Hi Carlos, thanks for the comment. Just trying to share my honest opinion, some people do not agree with what I'm saying, which is totally ok, everyone has different use cases and needs. I would not say it´s a bad product, in my use cases not a real action cam. I will keep the AcePro for its image quality and great in cam AI features like stop/start recording, edit the video duration etc. For hard core action scenes I would pick my DJI or GoPro.
actually there are a lot of reviewers talking about these issues, is the first video you've seen?? I've been watching videos since this launched. Same three complaints, imo, like all cameras, everyone is different for their usage. You can't say that flip screen is a bad idea therefore it's a bad camera, if you're worried put the screen down and lock it, simple at least we have a flip screen option lol. at the end of the day, it's that usable footage for our content and this camera does that, yes all cameras have their "thing". Remember DJI 3 had a focus issue, GoPro still has overheating problems in a 12th gen camera??? seriously and yet we just 'live' with it. If I had a penny for lost footage due to overheating issues on my GoPro.... you get the gist.
@@MiyagisRant The flip screen has a big problem because of the flat cable. Flat cable has always caused problems on flip phones. Sooner or later it will crack
No one would flip the screen open while recording action scenes. It’s more for vlogging. It gives you an option to use it if you want. This is nitpicking. Why would you want a front smaller screen to see yourself when you can use the bigger flip screen? Does the screen get scratched? Install a screen protector if you are worried. You do have some valid points. This is Insta360 first action cam and it did they did a fabulous job! This cam is packed with features and I can overlook some of the weaknesses mentioned in this review. I'm sure in the next upgrade, Insta360 will hear some of your feedback and include them. Cheers!
Hi @paulchin4094 this is the question I get all the time :) I´m skiing very often and I want to see if I´m in frame or not , the other issue is the wind I get over 3000m. I´m not the action cam authority :) just sharing my thoughts and at the end of the video I say the same, impressive, innovative device but not the best action cam. I have the insta360 Go3 with flip screen as well, I see flip screen general as mistake if you want to use it for several years. I´m keeping the ace pro for it´s features, not sending it back. take care
@@wheelxtech I see what you mean. Skiing is a fast/aggressive action spot and the flip-screen does face potential risk. For the framing purpose, I suggest using the Insta360 GPS Preview Remote. You can wear it like a watch strap on your wrist and do live viewing/recording/framing, etc. It can also display cool stats (distance, speed, etc) on your video screen! For the wind sound, it can get really annoying esp at high speed (I'm using it on my motorcycle, mounted on my helmet chin). I used an external Lavalier mic with a wind muff and lowered the Mic gain in the setting then hid it in my pocket (or inside my helmet if I'm vlogging). This helps a lot. Or you may remove the wind noise during your video editing, depending on your preference. Just my 2 cents. Anyway, keep us posted on your experience with the Ace Pro, and looking forward to seeing your next review/sharing. Enjoy!
the issue I see is, people have different understanding of action, for some of the users riding bike or running is action, for some (I would say minor) users it´s snowboarding, surfing, downhill biking, motocross, skiing etc where you have much more dirt/mud/sand/wind. As mentioned I like the cam and will check the GPS Preview Remote. Take Care
@@wheelxtech I feel like people buying action cams for "real"/classic action cam purposes are quite the minority these days.... The ace pro doesn't really feel comfortable for me too, as it's way more expensive and looks just to labile compared to the action 4 .... And that all only for a ton of gimmicky functions, which I'll probably would never use anyway lol.... And even, if the screen is "closed", do you feel like the hinges could still be a weak point, if you have a bad crash and some stones impact on them? ^^
Nobody is going to have the screen open while doing action sports. The screen will be fine in a year since it’s the same flip up screen on the Insta360 Go 3. I do wish there was a video screen on the front along with the flip screen.
Hi, it depends on the action or Person If the screen will be open or not, I personally do not need it but I know people who are doing that like divers , surfers etc, they would not buy this action cam because of the flip screen. Small screen on the front would solve this problem actually. The flip screen of ace pro is better than the go3s, I'm using go3 as well since months, there is a go 3 review in my channel as well. ✌🏻
@@wheelxtech Wrong, I'm a scuba diver and I bought this specifically for that. Why would even use a flip screen during a deep dive? I have a DJI osmo with a front screen, I dive exclusively with for years, never used the front screen, when you have a camera mounted on your dive vest, front screen is useless. Even when you record with a camera using a handle, you use the back screen, flip screen is irrelevant in a scuba dive scenario. Sorry, this is my department, I do scuba dive photography.
I don't see the flipscreen as a negative. Just because it's there, doesn't mean you have to use it. Sure it would have been nice to see yourself in the frontscreen too, but cant really think of an example, where you would not want to use the flipscreen for that. I agree on the non-exchangeable Lense tho. Yes, it will get scratches eventually and have to send it in for repair. Also can't put other lenses on it. Edit: You actually can put filters on it.
Hi @hauergeronimo Thanks for your comment ✌🏻 as already mentioned the use cases and needs are different, I’m insta360 go3 user as well (has flip screen), front screen would actually solve this problem, no need to open the screen but I don’t know why insta360 decided not to put a front screen Btw a friend managed to remove the lens cover
mhhh agree with some of your points, my unit arrived last week and I have already had some time to play around with it. For example I don't really get your point with the vacuum cleaner 😅 in what situation will this ever occur? I actually bought it specifically because I reaaaallly like the flip screen and how versatile it makes framing. 10bit color I agree on, but honestly speaking, when I do action camera footage I rarely color grade as I would do it with my mirrorless, I guess that's the same for 96% of users. For the lens cover, yeah they shoudl have learned from GoPro there, but at least in most countries (like here in Germany) getting that cover exchanged for free just takes a few days according to their customer service (yes, first thing I asked). Overall I'm quite happy with the camera compared to my older action cameras, especially the low light capability is a game changer for our dark north european winters in which normal action cameras essentially become absolutely useless for 80% of the day.
Servus, I´m also in Germany @chillfightsforfun it was a hair dryer :) I wanted to demonstrate the situation during skiing where I have high speed (my record 101kmh), wind I get during that. A front screen where you could see yourself would actually eliminate this issue, while skiing I would like to see if I´m in frame or what is in frame. The disadvantages I presented are not valid for most of the users out there, my use cases are pretty action/dirt/wind based. I´m also pretty impressed by the device except points I mentioned. 10 bit is for most of the users is not important as I mentioned. If the issues in the video are not issues at all for the users, they should pick the ace pro over OA4 or GoPro.Take care ✌🏻
Hi @RainoeXXX you are right and that is the reason I’m keeping it, nice combination with my OA4 and Hero12.AI features are pretty impressive.take care ✌🏻
the flip screen is being pushed for vloggers not people who want to jump around with it. Insta is trying to hit two birds with one stone and the front screen, well thats what the flip screen is for. For someone like my self who does vlogging and action stuff, plus the 1 inch sensor for low light shooting, this thing is great. It hits the needs I have for making a nice video with out carrying around a big camcorder.
Already used the in cam functions?Like record start/pause etc The ai features are impressive and if you don't have issues with flip screen or non removable lens, you will have fun with it. ✌🏻
Good video. I appreciate your point of view. There's always room for improvement, and I look forward to what the next version of the Insta360 AcePro and Ace will have in terms of improvements if one is ever produced and made available in the future.
Agree, it´s a great cam, I like using it and the App, in Cam Functions are really good, cropping, pausing the video recording for example and zoom without impact on video quality etc. take care.
Best Video Ever! Most Genuine and Honest Review You Have Provided. All sponsored RUclipsrs showing the wrong side for money. Subscribed to your channel! Please keep up the honest and good work!
@ap.travels thanks a lot for your comment, I would say most of the RUclipsrs are ignoring the downsides of the products and only talking about the positives, it´s not only about the AcePro, when you check for example the products/gadgets released in 2023 always the same situation, it´s really sad, I'm follower of these RUclipsrs since years and I´m kind of losing trust. Take Care ✌🏻
The blow dryer is funny, that's like comparing a sailboat to a speedboat on a windy day lol Listen, I do mountain biking, hiking, hunting, kayaking, rock climbing, scuba diving and I would never have that screen up, it's just common sense, but I won't give up the low light feature and other innovative features for that reason. Again, this is not for everyone. ND UV filter for the scratch lens issue, we use this on our $5000 SLR's, we use this on GoPros, DJI's, simple fix. I don't think this is the King of actioncams, pretty darn close, Ace Pro 2 will be the king I think. I disagree, this is not really a "real" world use, go check out the guy who actually took this to a tough mudder race lol my 2 cents. Sorry.
@damench22 thanks for your comment and I like all kinds of feedbacks as long as they are not rude :) I have similar action scenes - hunting + snowboard and motorbike. I have the other flip screen cam of insta360 , a small front screen where you could see yourself would be great. According to my experience with Insta360 Go3, flip Screen and action do not match (after several months of usage I am saying that). I will keep the AcePro, image quality, low light performance and in cam AI features are impressive. Take care ✌🏻
@@wheelxtechI'm not being rude, it was just a funny comparison lol But in all seriousness, this camera has been bashed since launch but we tend to overlook that GP and DJI ALL has had issues also, how does one explain a 12gen camera still having serious heating issues resulting in loss footage, its funny, people have gotten so use to it that it's not even a thing anymore lol and yet, they still defend that device. Also, remember that this is Insta360 's first stab at an action cam format and it's already outperforming it's competitor with so many models already but the 'fanboys' just can't get over it lol. Do you remember when DJI first came out, it was also bashed by the fanboys, now the DJI Action 4 is out selling the GP12's, I own DJI cameras and drones, they have amazing stuff. And the audacity of some saying well it's a chinese company or it's made in China, that's funny until i point out to them that GoPro's are actually made and assembled in China and DJI is a chinese company LOL. See where I'm going with this? Thank you for the review but I think more of the positives which is a lot should have been pointed out as much as the negatives which you focused on. You said some reviewers don't mention or focus on the negatives of this camera therefore it's bias, but you are doing the same thing in the opposite, most of the review is the negative elements and at the end you 'briefly' mention the features that really are the star of this camera. All review in my opinion should be balanced and the first thing when I do my review on this camera once I get it will be, this camera is NOT for everyone, that should be nice ice breaker lol
I have also a comparison video between DJI OA3 and OA4, title is "keep your action 3" because of the overheating of Action 4. What I want to say is, im not a fanboy of a brand, just sharing my thoughts. I will make a comparison video between OA4 and AcePro, where I will of course highlight all the features, this video is not a review, as titled "4 Reasons not to buy as Action Cam" if it was a review, I would of course highlight everything.
@@wheelxtechMy other choice was the OA4 mainly because of the sensor, I'll take the sensor over the heating issue, it's no where near as bad as GP's overheating BS
Absolutely agree. It isn’t an action camera for extreme. For vlogs Dji pocket 3 is much more useful. So far I can’t justify a purchase of ace pro for me myself even when i love and I have a lot of insta360 gear already
Hi @bakhytzhan5160 thanks for your comment, it´s actually a great cam, I like using it but not in extreme situations, for that I have my GoPro 12 or DJI OA4, I believe next gen Insta360 Ace Pro will be a better device for extreme and has potential to be the nr. 1.Take care
Um, i'm pretty sure the P3 is not waterproof or splashproof, different class of camera. Ace is a bit of both and I think that was their intention to target a bigger audience.
Your statement that the lens cover is not replaceable is false. It is not user replaceable but Insta360 will do it if you send in the camera. Within a year after purchase they only charge for shipping too. It's not as good as an user replaceable part but also not as bad as you describe it. It falls in between. Your complaints about the flip screen are only valid in scenarios where most people would not even have the screen flipped up. But yeah for all 2 people on the planet trying to vlog while riding motocross this can be a concern. Thanks for sharing your experience though.
Hi Frank, thanks for your comment ✌🏻 I’m a hard core action cam user, mountain bike, snowboard, surfboard, sometimes diving and little front screen helps a lot in such use cases, what about the dust , dirt you get between the flip screen and body? I’m not sponsored or fanboy of any brand, just wanted to share my thoughts, I’m using insta360 go3 since months , which has also flip screen, it means I have experience with flip screens and it’s just not for action.unfortunately flip screen of my go3 is not as sturdy as at the beginning.im not telling that ace pro is a horrible device, just not a good action cam , I enjoy using it, I’m keeping it.just want to help people looking for an action cam.there is almost no unsponsored reviews on RUclips. ✌🏻 take care
Yup and I bet you my left nut we will start seeing 3rd party companies come out with lens guard repair kits for these for a cheap price. I'm gambling on this. :)
In all honesty I've been watching reviews since the day it launched, it's always the same focus on these 3 things which I think it's user preference not a critical problem.. um like hardware focus issues with DJI or the still on going over heating issues with GoPro but hey, it shoots 5.3k lol. I'm literally mystified at some of these 'fanboy' responses. I could care less about brand, I need something that will do the job I want to with as little stress and headaches as possible. At the end of the day, it's usable footage which this camera offers and better in many ways. Loyalty to a brand gets you no where in the end, I learned this the hard way. Companies often get lazy due to customer's undying loyalty, I was once there also. Since the launch of this, look at all the reviews, bias or non bias, they all come to the same common 'ground' better low light quality, better zoom, better AI functionality in camera, 8k, pause function, better software integration and I won't even get into the gimmicky stuff. All these for ME is what counts, the other negatives have simple work arounds. I rather have something I can use and be happy with at the end of the day.
@@SimplyScotlandPhotographyHahaha, I don't have to, I simply pick up my phone and called Insta360, the repair is done via authorized repair locations throughout the world. I live in a small city and there's a local repair shop that replaces the Ace Pro screen. I checked for me to ship it in, $12 cdn, it's actually only an hour and half from me, I can literally just drive there and drop it off. If you know anything about camera servicing under warranty, very rare that the device is sent to HQ if at all for repairs lol GoPro, DJI, Sony etc. all use authorized camera service depots to do this. Nice try though, I use to sell cameras for a living, do a little leg work ;)
What I find hilarious is all these people talking about the flip screen durability and yet not a single one of them is actually doing any action sports. Flipping the screen out and dropping it on a table? 😂 Blow drying it to fall with the screen open, im dead lmao. I do agree that with the screen closed, a preview button would be great on the front screen. With that said, I just took this thing on a tough mudder and it held up to mud, dust, water and 34 degree temps - all while using the flip screen. It also has been great for MTB, I can flip the screen to check the angle and click it right back in when I'm happy with the frame. It's really not rocket science to lock the screen in during times where you can crash and fall.
Hi Mike , thanks for your comment, I’m using insta360 go3 with flip screen, not the best for action and after months of usage the screen got shaky. I’m not the action cam authority 😊 just shared my thoughts Most of the action cam users do not have anything to do with action actually.take care
I'm working on a comparison video right now between action 4 and ace pro, it depends on your needs I would say, if you are not an extreme action Person, ace pro would be the better pick with the ai functions, hope to finish the comparison video soon
I find it a bit humorous that when there's more good reviews then bad for a camera is automatically accused of bias, paid, sponsored. By that logic, can I say that you only talk about the bad for this camera that you're paid by the competition? There's many sponsored reviews out there that also point out the negatives of this camera, how is that a bias review? Almost every review I've seen mentions the things you've mentioned here, it's always the same three: lens guard, flip display and the 10 bit. There are many definitions of actioncam apparently now, I've seen videos of this on a mountain bike, kayak, scuba diving, side of a car and lately someone who put this through a tough mudder race, it survived perfectly fine. Are we forgetting something here, lens guard wasn't introduced until the GoPro 5, was GoPro one to four not considered actioncams? I still love my GoPro 4 Silver, one of my fav 'actioncams', it's neither waterproof or has removeable lens guard.
please watch the conclusion part, where I say that it´s a great cam, with great AI features, image quality etc. I have experiences with GoPro, DJI, Insta360 Go3 and Go3 is the only one with flip screen and no front screen, in my use cases it´s a downside compared with my GoPro or DJI. The non-removable lens would be actually the only reason not to use Ace Pro in Dirt, Mud. I can not imagine that the lens got no scratches after mudder race. As already said, I will keep it for its features but on hard core action days I would use my GoPro or DJI
@@wheelxtechyes, briefly at the end lol Simple solution to lens guard already mentioned by another reviewer, UV ND filter, ti's cheaper then a GP DJI replacement and it works just fine.
a friend managed to remove the lens, I will visit him to see how he did it. He has unfortunately no RUclips Channel, where he could publish the workflow, I will publish a video when I manage to remove mine. feel free to write your thoughts 👍🏻 I like such discussions and I don't want to be misunderstood
@@wheelxtech Well, the pre release it was removeable like the GoPros, insta360 decided against this at final release, doubt that would have redesigned the whole thing to make it permanent. I talked to a rep at Insta360, the reasoning behind it was to ensure absolute water and dust proofing, maybe they had to do it via Leica's license agreement who knows but yah, that thing is removable, they probably just added some glue in, if it breaks, bet you that thing is very replaceable.
I think we will see 3rd party repair kits for ace pro soon, the device is pretty fresh.if insta360 can do it when you send it to them, you can do it as well.it´s not impossible I would say. you know how much the replacement would cost after 1 year?in the first year you pay only the shipment.
The flip screen is for when used with a selfie stick and optional. And one can buy a screen protector for $1. Removable screen make waterproofing a challenge. Your video was only to complain about others being biased then you ony mentioned a few non-issues.
Hi Edwin, it is not a review actually, just wanted to highlight "as video title says" reasons why it's not the best action cam.right now working on a comparison video oa4 and ace pro. Take care ✌🏻
It’s definitely NOT a “game changer” - that’s just the hype machine. ALL action cams have a disappointing image quality. This is just facts. E-stabe is really horrid in general. The reviewers are all just looking after the hand that feeds them in the form of early access.
Hi Jeff, some reviewers are still ok but most of them are ignoring the downsides of the devices, not only ace pro. According to image quality: in this small body they can not (yet) do more I believe.Take care ✌🏻
@@wheelxtech I mean that non sponsored reviews of AcePro I've seen got much worse quality of video than sponsored ones. It was the same case for Go3 :o No idea why :o
I don´t know :) I record in 4k, most probably sponsored reviewers have better studio, lights setup etc. most of them have over 100k subscribers and much more experience. I checked your channel, your videos are pretty good :)
@@wheelxtech I do not refer to any of your Insta AcePro footage because I think I haven't seen any :D. But it's not about Insta only. Also Pocket 3 got a bit better quality from "sponsored reviews". Maybe they are actually better that other YT scrubs, but in some cases their "low light tests" are not really low light. I do watch some sponsored reviews just to see what features new products have, but never make an buying decision based on them anymore :D. Too many bad purchases :D.
Its an action camera without the reliability of it.Gopro hero 12 has everything you need and want.even dji action 4 is better than this but it didnt suit my needs
Hi @parthgupta4610 lot of people out there are ok with the issues I mentioned, they would be pretty happy with this device, it´s really powerful and has great features. hard core action people do agree with the downsides and they would pick another device without moving parts. I mean people should pick the best device according to needs/use cases. take care ✌🏻
@@wheelxtechinsta360 also has a preview watch that allows you to do front facing recording and still preview yourself while recording. I will admit that the extra cost of the watch is a con, but I have also seen people use the flip screen under water without any issues. Just like you said, it depends on the activity you’re doing. For most extreme sports, the flip screen and non removable lens is not a good selling point
I have experience with the Insta360 Go3 and flip screen without front screen is not cool. the combination "Flip screen with a front screen where you can see yourself " would be ok, without front screen, you are forced to use the only screen you have. Thanks again for your comment, take care
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Finally someone with honest opinion. Sponsored RUclipsrs are not talking at all about the issues you mentioned.I do agree 100% it´s a great Vlogging Cam.
Hi Carlos, thanks for the comment. Just trying to share my honest opinion, some people do not agree with what I'm saying, which is totally ok, everyone has different use cases and needs. I would not say it´s a bad product, in my use cases not a real action cam. I will keep the AcePro for its image quality and great in cam AI features like stop/start recording, edit the video duration etc. For hard core action scenes I would pick my DJI or GoPro.
@@wheelxtech You are talking truth. You are not sponosred. That is your power.
@perazdera5639 thanks a lot, trying my best :) hopefully it helps some of the people out there looking for an action cam.
actually there are a lot of reviewers talking about these issues, is the first video you've seen?? I've been watching videos since this launched. Same three complaints, imo, like all cameras, everyone is different for their usage. You can't say that flip screen is a bad idea therefore it's a bad camera, if you're worried put the screen down and lock it, simple at least we have a flip screen option lol. at the end of the day, it's that usable footage for our content and this camera does that, yes all cameras have their "thing". Remember DJI 3 had a focus issue, GoPro still has overheating problems in a 12th gen camera??? seriously and yet we just 'live' with it. If I had a penny for lost footage due to overheating issues on my GoPro.... you get the gist.
@@MiyagisRant The flip screen has a big problem because of the flat cable. Flat cable has always caused problems on flip phones. Sooner or later it will crack
No one would flip the screen open while recording action scenes. It’s more for vlogging. It gives you an option to use it if you want.
This is nitpicking. Why would you want a front smaller screen to see yourself when you can use the bigger flip screen?
Does the screen get scratched? Install a screen protector if you are worried. You do have some valid points. This is Insta360 first action cam and it did they did a fabulous job! This cam is packed with features and I can overlook some of the weaknesses mentioned in this review. I'm sure in the next upgrade, Insta360 will hear some of your feedback and include them. Cheers!
Hi @paulchin4094 this is the question I get all the time :) I´m skiing very often and I want to see if I´m in frame or not , the other issue is the wind I get over 3000m.
I´m not the action cam authority :) just sharing my thoughts and at the end of the video I say the same, impressive, innovative device but not the best action cam. I have the insta360 Go3 with flip screen as well, I see flip screen general as mistake if you want to use it for several years.
I´m keeping the ace pro for it´s features, not sending it back. take care
@@wheelxtech I see what you mean. Skiing is a fast/aggressive action spot and the flip-screen does face potential risk. For the framing purpose, I suggest using the Insta360 GPS Preview Remote. You can wear it like a watch strap on your wrist and do live viewing/recording/framing, etc. It can also display cool stats (distance, speed, etc) on your video screen!
For the wind sound, it can get really annoying esp at high speed (I'm using it on my motorcycle, mounted on my helmet chin). I used an external Lavalier mic with a wind muff and lowered the Mic gain in the setting then hid it in my pocket (or inside my helmet if I'm vlogging). This helps a lot. Or you may remove the wind noise during your video editing, depending on your preference. Just my 2 cents. Anyway, keep us posted on your experience with the Ace Pro, and looking forward to seeing your next review/sharing. Enjoy!
the issue I see is, people have different understanding of action, for some of the users riding bike or running is action, for some (I would say minor) users it´s snowboarding, surfing, downhill biking, motocross, skiing etc where you have much more dirt/mud/sand/wind.
As mentioned I like the cam and will check the GPS Preview Remote.
Take Care
@@wheelxtech I feel like people buying action cams for "real"/classic action cam purposes are quite the minority these days....
The ace pro doesn't really feel comfortable for me too, as it's way more expensive and looks just to labile compared to the action 4 .... And that all only for a ton of gimmicky functions, which I'll probably would never use anyway lol....
And even, if the screen is "closed", do you feel like the hinges could still be a weak point, if you have a bad crash and some stones impact on them? ^^
@@BetaD_ totally agree, I have the insta360 go 3 since months and the flip screen is not as good as it was at day 1, got little loose.take care ✌🏻
Nobody is going to have the screen open while doing action sports. The screen will be fine in a year since it’s the same flip up screen on the Insta360 Go 3. I do wish there was a video screen on the front along with the flip screen.
Hi, it depends on the action or Person If the screen will be open or not, I personally do not need it but I know people who are doing that like divers , surfers etc, they would not buy this action cam because of the flip screen.
Small screen on the front would solve this problem actually.
The flip screen of ace pro is better than the go3s, I'm using go3 as well since months, there is a go 3 review in my channel as well.
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@@wheelxtech Wrong, I'm a scuba diver and I bought this specifically for that. Why would even use a flip screen during a deep dive? I have a DJI osmo with a front screen, I dive exclusively with for years, never used the front screen, when you have a camera mounted on your dive vest, front screen is useless. Even when you record with a camera using a handle, you use the back screen, flip screen is irrelevant in a scuba dive scenario. Sorry, this is my department, I do scuba dive photography.
I don't see the flipscreen as a negative. Just because it's there, doesn't mean you have to use it. Sure it would have been nice to see yourself in the frontscreen too, but cant really think of an example, where you would not want to use the flipscreen for that.
I agree on the non-exchangeable Lense tho. Yes, it will get scratches eventually and have to send it in for repair. Also can't put other lenses on it.
Edit: You actually can put filters on it.
Hi @hauergeronimo
Thanks for your comment ✌🏻 as already mentioned the use cases and needs are different, I’m insta360 go3 user as well (has flip screen), front screen would actually solve this problem, no need to open the screen but I don’t know why insta360 decided not to put a front screen
Btw a friend managed to remove the lens cover
You can put on ND filters.
@@wheelxtechI have a GoPro Hero8. Just use a protective film and the nonremovable lens cover shouldn't be an issue.
mhhh agree with some of your points, my unit arrived last week and I have already had some time to play around with it. For example I don't really get your point with the vacuum cleaner 😅 in what situation will this ever occur? I actually bought it specifically because I reaaaallly like the flip screen and how versatile it makes framing. 10bit color I agree on, but honestly speaking, when I do action camera footage I rarely color grade as I would do it with my mirrorless, I guess that's the same for 96% of users. For the lens cover, yeah they shoudl have learned from GoPro there, but at least in most countries (like here in Germany) getting that cover exchanged for free just takes a few days according to their customer service (yes, first thing I asked).
Overall I'm quite happy with the camera compared to my older action cameras, especially the low light capability is a game changer for our dark north european winters in which normal action cameras essentially become absolutely useless for 80% of the day.
Servus, I´m also in Germany @chillfightsforfun it was a hair dryer :) I wanted to demonstrate the situation during skiing where I have high speed (my record 101kmh), wind I get during that. A front screen where you could see yourself would actually eliminate this issue, while skiing I would like to see if I´m in frame or what is in frame. The disadvantages I presented are not valid for most of the users out there, my use cases are pretty action/dirt/wind based. I´m also pretty impressed by the device except points I mentioned. 10 bit is for most of the users is not important as I mentioned. If the issues in the video are not issues at all for the users, they should pick the ace pro over OA4 or GoPro.Take care ✌🏻
Maybe it's not a great action cam, but it's definitely very good as a travel camera.
Hi @RainoeXXX you are right and that is the reason I’m keeping it, nice combination with my OA4 and Hero12.AI features are pretty impressive.take care ✌🏻
the flip screen is being pushed for vloggers not people who want to jump around with it. Insta is trying to hit two birds with one stone and the front screen, well thats what the flip screen is for. For someone like my self who does vlogging and action stuff, plus the 1 inch sensor for low light shooting, this thing is great. It hits the needs I have for making a nice video with out carrying around a big camcorder.
Already used the in cam functions?Like record start/pause etc
The ai features are impressive and if you don't have issues with flip screen or non removable lens, you will have fun with it.
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you got a 1" sensor? thought it was 1/1.3 😮
No 1inch sensor 🙂 , DJI Osmo packet has 1inch sensor
Good video. I appreciate your point of view. There's always room for improvement, and I look forward to what the next version of the Insta360 AcePro and Ace will have in terms of improvements if one is ever produced and made available in the future.
Thanks, trying my best and trying to get better, I just want to see a big improvement from GoPro, unfortunately far behind DJI and insta360 right now
Basically it's a bad action camera but good vlogging camera
Agree, it´s a great cam, I like using it and the App, in Cam Functions are really good, cropping, pausing the video recording for example and zoom without impact on video quality etc. take care.
Best Video Ever! Most Genuine and Honest Review You Have Provided. All sponsored RUclipsrs showing the wrong side for money.
Subscribed to your channel! Please keep up the honest and good work!
@ap.travels thanks a lot for your comment, I would say most of the RUclipsrs are ignoring the downsides of the products and only talking about the positives, it´s not only about the AcePro, when you check for example the products/gadgets released in 2023 always the same situation, it´s really sad, I'm follower of these RUclipsrs since years and I´m kind of losing trust. Take Care ✌🏻
@@wheelxtech agree 100% with you. 👍
The blow dryer is funny, that's like comparing a sailboat to a speedboat on a windy day lol Listen, I do mountain biking, hiking, hunting, kayaking, rock climbing, scuba diving and I would never have that screen up, it's just common sense, but I won't give up the low light feature and other innovative features for that reason. Again, this is not for everyone. ND UV filter for the scratch lens issue, we use this on our $5000 SLR's, we use this on GoPros, DJI's, simple fix. I don't think this is the King of actioncams, pretty darn close, Ace Pro 2 will be the king I think. I disagree, this is not really a "real" world use, go check out the guy who actually took this to a tough mudder race lol my 2 cents. Sorry.
@damench22 thanks for your comment and I like all kinds of feedbacks as long as they are not rude :) I have similar action scenes - hunting + snowboard and motorbike. I have the other flip screen cam of insta360 , a small front screen where you could see yourself would be great. According to my experience with Insta360 Go3, flip Screen and action do not match (after several months of usage I am saying that). I will keep the AcePro, image quality, low light performance and in cam AI features are impressive. Take care ✌🏻
@@wheelxtechI'm not being rude, it was just a funny comparison lol But in all seriousness, this camera has been bashed since launch but we tend to overlook that GP and DJI ALL has had issues also, how does one explain a 12gen camera still having serious heating issues resulting in loss footage, its funny, people have gotten so use to it that it's not even a thing anymore lol and yet, they still defend that device. Also, remember that this is Insta360 's first stab at an action cam format and it's already outperforming it's competitor with so many models already but the 'fanboys' just can't get over it lol. Do you remember when DJI first came out, it was also bashed by the fanboys, now the DJI Action 4 is out selling the GP12's, I own DJI cameras and drones, they have amazing stuff. And the audacity of some saying well it's a chinese company or it's made in China, that's funny until i point out to them that GoPro's are actually made and assembled in China and DJI is a chinese company LOL. See where I'm going with this? Thank you for the review but I think more of the positives which is a lot should have been pointed out as much as the negatives which you focused on. You said some reviewers don't mention or focus on the negatives of this camera therefore it's bias, but you are doing the same thing in the opposite, most of the review is the negative elements and at the end you 'briefly' mention the features that really are the star of this camera. All review in my opinion should be balanced and the first thing when I do my review on this camera once I get it will be, this camera is NOT for everyone, that should be nice ice breaker lol
I have also a comparison video between DJI OA3 and OA4, title is "keep your action 3" because of the overheating of Action 4. What I want to say is, im not a fanboy of a brand, just sharing my thoughts.
I will make a comparison video between OA4 and AcePro, where I will of course highlight all the features, this video is not a review, as titled "4 Reasons not to buy as Action Cam"
if it was a review, I would of course highlight everything.
@@wheelxtechMy other choice was the OA4 mainly because of the sensor, I'll take the sensor over the heating issue, it's no where near as bad as GP's overheating BS
overheating on OA4 got better after FW update, still not as good as OA3 but with the larger sensor, it´s understandable.
2:31 simple solutions to seeing your self without a front screen. Buy a small mirror and use a lil mounting taps to stick on the front screen.
ok, I will try 😊 take care
except 10Bit I do agree wit the arguments you have.a small group of users would use 10bit for color grading
yep, I mentioned in the video you can ignore this point if you do nor color grade
Absolutely agree. It isn’t an action camera for extreme. For vlogs Dji pocket 3 is much more useful. So far I can’t justify a purchase of ace pro for me myself even when i love and I have a lot of insta360 gear already
Hi @bakhytzhan5160 thanks for your comment, it´s actually a great cam, I like using it but not in extreme situations, for that I have my GoPro 12 or DJI OA4, I believe next gen Insta360 Ace Pro will be a better device for extreme and has potential to be the nr. 1.Take care
Leave the screen closed that simple, not everyone color grades, it càptures color better
👍🏻 color out of the cam is pretty good
Well then we should compare this with the pocket 3 since there are people who wants to vlog with this camera too
@mohdfirdaus9050 I will do it, already ordered a pocket 3.GoPro 12, DJI OA4, Insta360 AcePro and DJI Pocket would be interesting :)
Um, i'm pretty sure the P3 is not waterproof or splashproof, different class of camera. Ace is a bit of both and I think that was their intention to target a bigger audience.
Your statement that the lens cover is not replaceable is false. It is not user replaceable but Insta360 will do it if you send in the camera. Within a year after purchase they only charge for shipping too. It's not as good as an user replaceable part but also not as bad as you describe it. It falls in between. Your complaints about the flip screen are only valid in scenarios where most people would not even have the screen flipped up. But yeah for all 2 people on the planet trying to vlog while riding motocross this can be a concern. Thanks for sharing your experience though.
Hi Frank, thanks for your comment ✌🏻 I’m a hard core action cam user, mountain bike, snowboard, surfboard, sometimes diving and little front screen helps a lot in such use cases, what about the dust , dirt you get between the flip screen and body?
I’m not sponsored or fanboy of any brand, just wanted to share my thoughts, I’m using insta360 go3 since months , which has also flip screen, it means I have experience with flip screens and it’s just not for action.unfortunately flip screen of my go3 is not as sturdy as at the beginning.im not telling that ace pro is a horrible device, just not a good action cam , I enjoy using it, I’m keeping it.just want to help people looking for an action cam.there is almost no unsponsored reviews on RUclips. ✌🏻 take care
Yup and I bet you my left nut we will start seeing 3rd party companies come out with lens guard repair kits for these for a cheap price. I'm gambling on this. :)
In all honesty I've been watching reviews since the day it launched, it's always the same focus on these 3 things which I think it's user preference not a critical problem.. um like hardware focus issues with DJI or the still on going over heating issues with GoPro but hey, it shoots 5.3k lol. I'm literally mystified at some of these 'fanboy' responses. I could care less about brand, I need something that will do the job I want to with as little stress and headaches as possible. At the end of the day, it's usable footage which this camera offers and better in many ways. Loyalty to a brand gets you no where in the end, I learned this the hard way. Companies often get lazy due to customer's undying loyalty, I was once there also. Since the launch of this, look at all the reviews, bias or non bias, they all come to the same common 'ground' better low light quality, better zoom, better AI functionality in camera, 8k, pause function, better software integration and I won't even get into the gimmicky stuff. All these for ME is what counts, the other negatives have simple work arounds. I rather have something I can use and be happy with at the end of the day.
Hahaha have you ever tried to send something back to Insta? They are an absolute nightmare to deal with.
@@SimplyScotlandPhotographyHahaha, I don't have to, I simply pick up my phone and called Insta360, the repair is done via authorized repair locations throughout the world. I live in a small city and there's a local repair shop that replaces the Ace Pro screen. I checked for me to ship it in, $12 cdn, it's actually only an hour and half from me, I can literally just drive there and drop it off. If you know anything about camera servicing under warranty, very rare that the device is sent to HQ if at all for repairs lol GoPro, DJI, Sony etc. all use authorized camera service depots to do this. Nice try though, I use to sell cameras for a living, do a little leg work ;)
What I find hilarious is all these people talking about the flip screen durability and yet not a single one of them is actually doing any action sports. Flipping the screen out and dropping it on a table? 😂 Blow drying it to fall with the screen open, im dead lmao. I do agree that with the screen closed, a preview button would be great on the front screen. With that said, I just took this thing on a tough mudder and it held up to mud, dust, water and 34 degree temps - all while using the flip screen. It also has been great for MTB, I can flip the screen to check the angle and click it right back in when I'm happy with the frame. It's really not rocket science to lock the screen in during times where you can crash and fall.
Hi Mike , thanks for your comment, I’m using insta360 go3 with flip screen, not the best for action and after months of usage the screen got shaky. I’m not the action cam authority 😊 just shared my thoughts
Most of the action cam users do not have anything to do with action actually.take care
how bout Dji Osmo Action 4..do you recommend it..thanks..
I'm working on a comparison video right now between action 4 and ace pro, it depends on your needs I would say, if you are not an extreme action Person, ace pro would be the better pick with the ai functions, hope to finish the comparison video soon
@@wheelxtech 🙏..will do.. I'll go with Dji then for motovlog..
I find it a bit humorous that when there's more good reviews then bad for a camera is automatically accused of bias, paid, sponsored. By that logic, can I say that you only talk about the bad for this camera that you're paid by the competition? There's many sponsored reviews out there that also point out the negatives of this camera, how is that a bias review? Almost every review I've seen mentions the things you've mentioned here, it's always the same three: lens guard, flip display and the 10 bit. There are many definitions of actioncam apparently now, I've seen videos of this on a mountain bike, kayak, scuba diving, side of a car and lately someone who put this through a tough mudder race, it survived perfectly fine. Are we forgetting something here, lens guard wasn't introduced until the GoPro 5, was GoPro one to four not considered actioncams? I still love my GoPro 4 Silver, one of my fav 'actioncams', it's neither waterproof or has removeable lens guard.
please watch the conclusion part, where I say that it´s a great cam, with great AI features, image quality etc. I have experiences with GoPro, DJI, Insta360 Go3 and Go3 is the only one with flip screen and no front screen, in my use cases it´s a downside compared with my GoPro or DJI.
The non-removable lens would be actually the only reason not to use Ace Pro in Dirt, Mud. I can not imagine that the lens got no scratches after mudder race.
As already said, I will keep it for its features but on hard core action days I would use my GoPro or DJI
@@wheelxtechyes, briefly at the end lol Simple solution to lens guard already mentioned by another reviewer, UV ND filter, ti's cheaper then a GP DJI replacement and it works just fine.
a friend managed to remove the lens, I will visit him to see how he did it. He has unfortunately no RUclips Channel, where he could publish the workflow, I will publish a video when I manage to remove mine. feel free to write your thoughts 👍🏻 I like such discussions and I don't want to be misunderstood
@@wheelxtech Well, the pre release it was removeable like the GoPros, insta360 decided against this at final release, doubt that would have redesigned the whole thing to make it permanent. I talked to a rep at Insta360, the reasoning behind it was to ensure absolute water and dust proofing, maybe they had to do it via Leica's license agreement who knows but yah, that thing is removable, they probably just added some glue in, if it breaks, bet you that thing is very replaceable.
I think we will see 3rd party repair kits for ace pro soon, the device is pretty fresh.if insta360 can do it when you send it to them, you can do it as well.it´s not impossible I would say.
you know how much the replacement would cost after 1 year?in the first year you pay only the shipment.
The flip screen is for when used with a selfie stick and optional. And one can buy a screen protector for $1. Removable screen make waterproofing a challenge. Your video was only to complain about others being biased then you ony mentioned a few non-issues.
Hi Edwin, it is not a review actually, just wanted to highlight "as video title says" reasons why it's not the best action cam.right now working on a comparison video oa4 and ace pro. Take care ✌🏻
It’s definitely NOT a “game changer” - that’s just the hype machine. ALL action cams have a disappointing image quality. This is just facts. E-stabe is really horrid in general. The reviewers are all just looking after the hand that feeds them in the form of early access.
Hi Jeff, some reviewers are still ok but most of them are ignoring the downsides of the devices, not only ace pro.
According to image quality: in this small body they can not (yet) do more I believe.Take care ✌🏻
Any not sponsored reviews got quite lame image quality actually :o
Hi @JoATTech, which image quality you mean?Thumbnail or Video?
@@wheelxtech I mean that non sponsored reviews of AcePro I've seen got much worse quality of video than sponsored ones.
It was the same case for Go3 :o
No idea why :o
I don´t know :) I record in 4k, most probably sponsored reviewers have better studio, lights setup etc. most of them have over 100k subscribers and much more experience. I checked your channel, your videos are pretty good :)
@@wheelxtech I do not refer to any of your Insta AcePro footage because I think I haven't seen any :D. But it's not about Insta only. Also Pocket 3 got a bit better quality from "sponsored reviews". Maybe they are actually better that other YT scrubs, but in some cases their "low light tests" are not really low light.
I do watch some sponsored reviews just to see what features new products have, but never make an buying decision based on them anymore :D. Too many bad purchases :D.
Its an action camera without the reliability of it.Gopro hero 12 has everything you need and want.even dji action 4 is better than this but it didnt suit my needs
Hi @parthgupta4610 lot of people out there are ok with the issues I mentioned, they would be pretty happy with this device, it´s really powerful and has great features. hard core action people do agree with the downsides and they would pick another device without moving parts. I mean people should pick the best device according to needs/use cases. take care ✌🏻
Sir…. For vlogging, you flip the screen up and record yourself. For action;, you use it with the screen closed lol
@Kingofny718 Hi, it depends on the action and situation I would say :) I had many situations where the small screen of GoPro or DJI was a huge help.
@@wheelxtechinsta360 also has a preview watch that allows you to do front facing recording and still preview yourself while recording. I will admit that the extra cost of the watch is a con, but I have also seen people use the flip screen under water without any issues. Just like you said, it depends on the activity you’re doing. For most extreme sports, the flip screen and non removable lens is not a good selling point
I have experience with the Insta360 Go3 and flip screen without front screen is not cool. the combination "Flip screen with a front screen where you can see yourself " would be ok, without front screen, you are forced to use the only screen you have. Thanks again for your comment, take care
Or you dont need to flip a whole module and just turn on front screen of gopro or dji.much better than flimsy