I'm not sure I understand the nerf to everything...nobody seemed to complain about any weapon except for the FAL and M61s. I guess this is an attempt to make armor and helmets viable, because to be fair they are worthless.
O jogo simulava a realidade, ou você acredita que um colete vai aguentar uma rajada de 7.62 ou um capacete não vai ser perfurado por uma munição 7.62 ou 5.56 ? Cagaram a realidade do jogo
Its a step backwards, not a step in the right direction. This will make you want uninstall the game, since already rats were a problem in this game, now it will be much more consistent, and if you are not running with precision rifle, you will die much more often. Bullet damage drop after rifle effective range is tremendous. You wont be able to kill a rat without armor in 120M distance with any assault rifle in one shot, but if a rat has mosin with T6 bullets, your head will be blown into pieces in the meantime.
They basically worsened the game for majority of players. Devs telling streamers in DMs with their friends saying “hey guys, you can now go into lobbies wearing t6 armors without any care in the world, hold W as much as you want because nobody can quickly kill you, lastly solo players won’t be able to sneak up on you (we nerfed the silent walk), you can hear them creep from across the map now”… Nonsense updates for majority of players but good update for only streamers who squad up with friends in t6. It’s easier to see this from a mile away than u think folks.
Streamers aren't the only ones who can use t6, i feel like if u are spending 1 million on a load out you should have a better chance at survival because before you would just get melted. I believe if you are a solo rat with a 100k kit you should be at a disadvantage against a team of t6. I wish they would make a solo/duo game mode for us solo players though so it's more fair
So its nerfing solos? So I have zero chance now to 1v4? Because you need range to take out a squad. No way you spray down 4 guys in close range, The SVDS cut in half? wtf. Its now a sks. So now you cant pick of anyone from range. and if the spot you they push you while you 1v4. Or what the META now will be - laying in a bush with a shotgun? that's the new meta. a solo player must lay in a bush and try and spray everyone as they run past.. Sounds familiar?
If you are going solo, get yourself SVD, T4 armor, and stay away from your target for ~80-100M range. If the team you are attacking has 0 long range weapons, its GG for them.
TTK is already tooooo high considering how expensive ammo is and I feel like this takes away from the more sim feel and add to the run around arcady feel. Long range gunfights were fun too
@@decoybackatitagain6576 if the effective range is lowered just wear better armor and if you are past the effective range you won't get just one shot so no snipers can't just sit outside their effective range and if you are on mobile idk why I'm talking to you 😂
This is stupid because if you find yourself fighting against multiples you got no chance. Damage being less you can't equalize easily the situation by killing fast one or two enemies. On the contrary teams will much easily kill solos which is sooooo unfun!
As a solo the TTK was way too quick, id personally like to key building and fight close quarters but after one person shoots you your either dead or extremely low. I feel like now when i wear t4 armour its like im actually wearing armour and i can eat a few shots. I still think m61 shouldn't be able to one tap a t6 helmet.
Feels like they just decided to say "screw you" to long range and solo players. Not a fan. I don't want the TTK to be increased. As a person who generally plays solo, I need to be able to take people out quickly before I get swarmed by their 5 friends.
They basically increased TTK in medium to long range fights, and the M61 nerf doesnt look like it'll solve anything but we'll have to.wait and see how it works
The game just made the contrast between Rifles and Precision Rifles bigger. So, the problems with getting sniped with M110, Mosins, and SVDS will spiral into getting much more frequently losing fights at 60-70m range against M110, Mosins and SVDS, since they outshine every weapon system at this distance. Which was exactly the thing I predicted and tried to stop from happening in previous two weeks on their discord server. Now the game will be much more tedious for players that do not want to spend their time hunting other players, but to have some semi-realistic close to mid range fights. So yeah, good job. M110 still two taps T6 armor. We also forget, that average fighting was previously in 60-80M range, so seeing "less number = good nerf" is just wrong. Now you can sit comfortably 100M to your target, spam your M110 or SVD, and just forget about dying, as long as your opponent is sporting standard Assault Rifle.
They nerfed cuz people where complaining that they were dying to people from long range with one tap with high gear lvl armor . Imagine getting one tapped by a naked guy from 200 meters. I like this nerf 🎉
Im pretty sure this makes no change for armors. The base dmg of bullets have been nerfed so a t4 vest tanks 3 m61s too now if im not wrong. Additionally i think there should be counterplay to t6 helmets because the helmets are cheaper and easier to use than good ammo cuz u still have to hit shots.
@@Saloman4ik 3 shots on FAL and 2 on M110. So this patch will be M110/SVD meta. SVD still one shot 6 lvl armor and 2 shots in chest even on 100m range.
Its actually a pretty bad update for every players now it takes a lot more time, energy and money, more money spent on ammo, medicine & heals, which pretty much kills the game especially for a solo player, when its already so hard to survive against a squad as it is, now its even harder and costs a shit more to kill & survive as a solo in this game.
@@Saloman4ik There are players that wants to play solo and there are players that finds hard to be matched with a team, have you even played as solo before, im guessing you have friends or in a clan to play as a team as and when you like? You like hunting solo players down in a team with numeral & comms advantages?
I don't understand what was the problem with just nerf fal and its calibre,the problem was not ttk,if you like that you have to fire 40 rounds to kill an enemy,you need cod,not arena.Fal and m61 were a problem,I was even killed yesterday in 6 tier armour by a kid with fal in 2 shots,in another game I suffered the same fate with m110 from a rat in the bushes. Here even more likely the problem was not in the fal, but in the calibre itself, you could just affect the calibre, making it so that at least you do not die with 2 bullets or with 1 in 6 tier helmet. For comparison in this game there is SVDS,it also has a type of ammo that kills with 2 shots to the body,but it has a crazy recoil compared to m110 which also has a crazy rapid fire rate as for dmr,which you can beam with at any distance compared to SVDS.This is wrong,i don't understand why they are chopping from the shoulder by nerfing all weapons. For people who whine on ttk- "if you don't want to shit -dont torture your ass" The point of such games is their near-realistic ttk, if you don't like it so much that your character can die from 5-6 bullets (not about m61, but about others) then you need to play other games, there are no other options, don't turn this game into cod 3.0 with your whining and mind+tactics+skill issue. Thanks for your time,and Dean,thanks for fast review
I just started playing this game and I liked it because it was quite realistic, and bam, here we go with thre nerfs, now all of weapons will behave like airsoft guns:/
It's not the base dmg that matters. It's penetration rate that actually matters. 5.56 always been worst of all ammos in Mobile Version cuz it had very low penetration rate. Take 5.56 A1 as example, it fails to even penetrate through T4 helmet sometimes and rarely fails headshot on T3 helmet as well cuz of bad penetration rate.
Lmao arena breakout has always been an arcade/casual friendly game. Lots of QOL changes that make the game inherently arcady, but that doesn't make it a bad game. I've been having a blast. But this update was braindead and makes no sense at all.
shut the F up about Tarkov... stop praise stupid russian devs when they fucked up in the leader position of extraction shooter genre. tarkov fanboys are the worst
nice update, now m61 still taps tier 6 helmets on cqb maps (wich was the problem) but every other gun has higher ttk, that was a nikkita lvl move right there
@@frag8476 but yet it still one taps t6 at long range to the head so wheres the point of the nerf then, if the ttk is still 1 bullet but now every single gun has a worse ttk to compete with that
@@leanzinho_ttv dude, most bullets one tap to the head, it only has 35 hp, the only way to nerf the M61 is by making it harder to get. It's not that complex
I have more than enough space but the update just doesn't want to do anything I don't know what's going on but I thought that my TV the other day for at least an hour and a half trying to get the update to move and nothing really happened so I just kind of gave up on the game
loving the update so far. most stuff t4 and lower seems pretty vulnerable still to "meta" weapons but t5 and up has a higher ttk. no more cross map full auto lazer 9ml's. yeah, thats a W devs. good work. Cant wait to see the strategy changes from player to compensate this update
Now if they could focus on not forcing solos or broke players to keep playing the same 2 regular maps (bored already) and release 2 new regular mode maps thatd be great. And solo mode. They could learn something from Delta n the release of new maps seems way too slow. Been 4 mo.
Im conflicted to the nerfs. M61 nerf was reasonable but nerfing all the other weapons was questionable. Hope they decide to revert it. Maybe not to its fullest values but better than it is rn
the akm was already useless now they made it even more so. I don't really know why they even give skins to guns like it if they make them useless. I do like though that things damage less. It's been very frustrating as a mediocre player to ambush t-5 t-6 sweats that just turn around and tap you despite being the ones that were ambushed/got the drop on. I do worry that with the range nerfs what we're just going to see is a wave of SJ people sniping, which we've already been seeing, it's frustrating and annoying Don't think that the sneak was a warranted nerf though. If anything it benefits people that aren't using headphones or have helmet impairment. I think that if you are running helmets that impair your ears, that's a risk you're willing to take, can't have everything. One thing that I'd like to see is more variety in viability of weapons. Sure some *can* be viable, but just blown out of the water in comparison to others (im looking at you ak105)
I completely agree with you, I haven't played the update yet but just looking at it I can't understand the point of making everything worse than before, instead of nerfing the op stuff and making everything else better
Easy dean. Just wondering after moving up to forbidden, after 100hrs of lockdown - for reasons of loot and stuff Seems much better, tactically which is my pref… but what would be your go to loadout for F. Curious ?
It's pretty good option if you want to get into extraction shooters. Devs do listen to players at least more than the average developers of other games. Game also has a tutorial unlike tarkov so you at least know the basics
I am so stoked about these range adjustments. Going to make the game way more interesting. People just need to enjoy it. Streamers and RUclips can't map people from across the map, that's why they crying. Get over it and adapt like we all have to
I find it funny that everyone is complaining while this is VERY close to the default effective range in ABM, even the fal is way more nerfed in m/l range than ABM. Everyone is gonna complain now and then realize the effective range nerf is not that bad
i have no idea how to feel about this as a solo player. i guess its good in a way that i wont be quickly crippled or 1 tapped by someone in a squad, but at the same time it feels like I would be having a harder time going against a squad. gunna have to play today and find out. More strategic planning i guess
Мб это все таки попытка на внедрение баллистики? До этого пули летели четко по прямой в одну точку на прицеле, а в этом патче/ обновлении возможно нужно будет брать упреждение?😊
bruh 12x70 flecheette is useleses because how weak is the penetration and no one even use that thing...and its got nerf instead Type-8? WTF ...whats wrong with them? are they really know what happen to their own game?... they re like clueless and nerf anything LOL🤣 wait did they didnt nerf the 7.62x25 and Dum dum?
If they nerf all ammo and range then the TTK goes up, which is what they seem to want. But if they nerf all guns, doesn't it just make meh guns even less interesting? Hard to predict.
TTK should be fast In this game it’s not cod, nobody wants people running and jumping around like cod. If your caught off guard you should be dead and not have time to react, that’s what sim games are about. I just hope they don’t ruin the game by giving in to cod kinda balancing. I think all the balancing should be based on the actually facts about the real weapons not based on gameplay, if that makes the fal overpowered then it should stay that way. If they want to balance it make it more expensive.
I would rather they nerfed the thermals or limit them to forbidden zone or something. Its crazy how often I run into thermal squads playing on normal in valley. It feels really unfair when you get taken out by someone in some bush somewhere a hundred yards or more away who can clearly see you while you can't see him even if you were looking right at him. Plus I dislike nerfs like this. It makes no sense to have damage fall off at range this short. Instead it should be penetration that falls off with range. And having m80 do just 66 damage now is ridiculous, let alone the m61. The weapons using the 7.62X51 have horrible recoil and are mostly semiautomatic to begin with. And wtf is up with bolt action rifles that only shoot a hundred yards before damage falls off?
Y'all were begging for nerfs so there you have it. 😂 I don't think devs just threw some random numbers in those nerfs they surely tested them before implementing them. I agree with what you said maybe armors will be a lil bit more viable. 3 m61 to the chest seems fair imo. People just gotta aim for the head now and don't forget about bullet pen which is something totally different.
Unnecessary nerfs because people have skill issues that's just my opinion. Players will always complain on this game, i feel like game devs should sometimes ignore what players want because they will always want something to be nerfed so they cant die quick coz of skill issue
Yo bro! You said that 'the TTK has been significantly lowered", but if everything got a range nerf, then it shoould been increased, no? Less eff. range means less bullets hitting, therefor need more to kill, so it's been increased. Or is my brain not braining..
Excellent. Most players wanted a nerf only for FAL and SVD/Mosin ammo, and the developers nerf everything and make even what was already bad worse? Congratulations. Now with FAL there will be an even more deadly weapon at medium range.. They can still cheapen T6 level ammo and it will be over. I don't understand. Why don't they remove the T7 level ammo and increase the armor's endurance? Or follow a little reality and common sense. T6-5 armor should reduce the damage of same level bullets much more, and lower level bullets shouldn't have a chance to penetrate armor 2-3 levels higher. The pc community doesn't want mobile games. We want a game where reality is at least largely preserved. For example thermal goggles should be `only for target acquisition, but shooting through optics or other aiming should be impossible. That's what a thermal sight is for. All these steps make the game worse and worse and actually more laughable. Tarkov is much better at this.
I thought this game was supposed to be realistic, now its just another call of duty with more grind and squads vs solos. 65 range on the ak is insane when it was shit already. Irl you can resonably shoot an ak out to 300
only broken thing is the rentgen T7... people with no skill just sealclubbing players without it. Especially Valley fog. having like 14 milions never used thermal because its like duckhunt
The outcome is, that as a solo player, I can't chew through even a two players team. Guys are spongy af right now. Not a big fan of this, but I still like the game.
This is the dumbest update. Takes skill To hit shots from further away now just makes it harder to fight back if you get pinned down from range and isn’t realistic at all. This sucks
This is how they make the money they get everyone hooked on the graphics and gameplay then boom nerf everything and buff the most expensive ammo in the game
Helmets and armor are still useless. You're overlooking the fact that nothing has changed in the penetration values. I can always one-tap a T6 helmet and 3-tap the chest with M61. Try it out on the shooting range yourself. Even at a distance of 100m, one-tap in head, 3-tap in chest with M61 The update didn't do anything
@@deanpogaming oh wow, great change. They nerfed all other ammo types too, so whats the point of this update? btw its only 3 shits with FAL. with M110 its 2 tap
these changes are not huge , they are ridiculous. at tier 4 u still need 3 bullets on one of the most used armors ingame an they are dead. that damage changes changed nothing in my opinion.
well specially they wont separate solos and squads , but thank god delta force game out so even its bad shape now maybe devs start to think players mey go there .
Armor had no use to begin with, with or without helmet one bullet to the head is ggz, shots to the leg? Ggz. Welp...more rats are gonna be born from this cuz soloes stand no chance to wipe squads now😂, glad i wasnt the type to be running around gunning everything that moves so i can adjust, but this update is wild, they just took realism from the game by making ppl much harder to kill
Nerf a irl weapon that does great irl? Bring other weapons to that level tf. Most body armor can only get shot once anyway unless its steel. Even ceramic can only get shot maybe twice. Games is like real life no its not its far from it.
I like the change. I kind of stopped playing because I just kept getting melted. I’m not the best keyboard mouse player, but I enjoyed the game. Hopefully this helps.
I'm not sure I understand the nerf to everything...nobody seemed to complain about any weapon except for the FAL and M61s. I guess this is an attempt to make armor and helmets viable, because to be fair they are worthless.
or just attract more unexperienced players.. i've seen this with most games
next update: cross platform play
Fake
I mean the game is supposed to be realistic
@@Tiger4ever89 with controller support and aim assist! Nah, I'd be out if that happens lol
without a fixed economy this is a nerf to your koen as well cause you're going to have to spend 25 percent more on ammo to drop the same tier 6 guy.
'Oh my god thats wild the game will never be the same' proceeds to go to shooting range and sees no difference at range lol
there is a difference if you hit body armor its now 3 bullets not 2 but yeah 1 tap to level 6 helmet still not fixed
Yea pretty much click bait
@@Saloman4iktrue. Game is so broken and they know it, as thats why its not on steam yet.
The range didn't have an effect on mumber of shots
Hahahahahaha, love this post.
Armor was basically useless… this is definitely a step in the right direction
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O jogo simulava a realidade, ou você acredita que um colete vai aguentar uma rajada de 7.62 ou um capacete não vai ser perfurado por uma munição 7.62 ou 5.56 ?
Cagaram a realidade do jogo
Its a step backwards, not a step in the right direction. This will make you want uninstall the game, since already rats were a problem in this game, now it will be much more consistent, and if you are not running with precision rifle, you will die much more often. Bullet damage drop after rifle effective range is tremendous. You wont be able to kill a rat without armor in 120M distance with any assault rifle in one shot, but if a rat has mosin with T6 bullets, your head will be blown into pieces in the meantime.
@@ph0ax497 valid
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They basically worsened the game for majority of players. Devs telling streamers in DMs with their friends saying “hey guys, you can now go into lobbies wearing t6 armors without any care in the world, hold W as much as you want because nobody can quickly kill you, lastly solo players won’t be able to sneak up on you (we nerfed the silent walk), you can hear them creep from across the map now”… Nonsense updates for majority of players but good update for only streamers who squad up with friends in t6. It’s easier to see this from a mile away than u think folks.
Streamers aren't the only ones who can use t6, i feel like if u are spending 1 million on a load out you should have a better chance at survival because before you would just get melted. I believe if you are a solo rat with a 100k kit you should be at a disadvantage against a team of t6. I wish they would make a solo/duo game mode for us solo players though so it's more fair
Fun fact: The F2000 has the same length barrel as a base M4. It just appears shorter because of the bullpup design
Only us gun nuts know that
That's the same with all bullpups as well
So its nerfing solos? So I have zero chance now to 1v4? Because you need range to take out a squad. No way you spray down 4 guys in close range, The SVDS cut in half? wtf. Its now a sks. So now you cant pick of anyone from range. and if the spot you they push you while you 1v4. Or what the META now will be - laying in a bush with a shotgun? that's the new meta. a solo player must lay in a bush and try and spray everyone as they run past.. Sounds familiar?
I’d say just play some games and see if you notice a difference. Sometimes you barely feel these changes
@@atokad0927 Maybe yeah. lets hope.
this ! ...
If you are going solo, get yourself SVD, T4 armor, and stay away from your target for ~80-100M range. If the team you are attacking has 0 long range weapons, its GG for them.
there is literally 0 chance someone will kill you with assault rifle from 100m
TTK is already tooooo high considering how expensive ammo is and I feel like this takes away from the more sim feel and add to the run around arcady feel. Long range gunfights were fun too
That seems like the point to make people stop camping with snipers.
@@DamnMarcus? A Sniper can still camp and still one shot every player with a t6 bullet? Nothing changed for them
@@decoybackatitagain6576 idk, maybe
@@decoybackatitagain6576 if the effective range is lowered just wear better armor and if you are past the effective range you won't get just one shot so no snipers can't just sit outside their effective range and if you are on mobile idk why I'm talking to you 😂
The developers have reduced the range of all barrels so that bullets would not reach the snipers
i just got this game like a hour ago so this vid doesnt really mean much to me but this game is great! im loving it alot
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This is stupid because if you find yourself fighting against multiples you got no chance. Damage being less you can't equalize easily the situation by killing fast one or two enemies. On the contrary teams will much easily kill solos which is sooooo unfun!
You can still aim for the face as it should still a 1 shot kill
As a solo the TTK was way too quick, id personally like to key building and fight close quarters but after one person shoots you your either dead or extremely low. I feel like now when i wear t4 armour its like im actually wearing armour and i can eat a few shots. I still think m61 shouldn't be able to one tap a t6 helmet.
Feels like they just decided to say "screw you" to long range and solo players. Not a fan.
I don't want the TTK to be increased. As a person who generally plays solo, I need to be able to take people out quickly before I get swarmed by their 5 friends.
They basically increased TTK in medium to long range fights, and the M61 nerf doesnt look like it'll solve anything but we'll have to.wait and see how it works
How did they increase ttk in long range fights? The nerfs was literally all on weapon range and damage at range
@atokad0927 increased ttk means it'll take longer to kill anyone
@@kingyt2877 yea bro I’m exhausted
@@kingyt2877 All it changes is that you won’t be able to counter me shooting svd t7 😂 Thanks for camping buff. /s
The game just made the contrast between Rifles and Precision Rifles bigger. So, the problems with getting sniped with M110, Mosins, and SVDS will spiral into getting much more frequently losing fights at 60-70m range against M110, Mosins and SVDS, since they outshine every weapon system at this distance. Which was exactly the thing I predicted and tried to stop from happening in previous two weeks on their discord server.
Now the game will be much more tedious for players that do not want to spend their time hunting other players, but to have some semi-realistic close to mid range fights. So yeah, good job. M110 still two taps T6 armor. We also forget, that average fighting was previously in 60-80M range, so seeing "less number = good nerf" is just wrong. Now you can sit comfortably 100M to your target, spam your M110 or SVD, and just forget about dying, as long as your opponent is sporting standard Assault Rifle.
They nerfed cuz people where complaining that they were dying to people from long range with one tap with high gear lvl armor . Imagine getting one tapped by a naked guy from 200 meters. I like this nerf 🎉
That naked guy has no chance now. Scavs have no chance now. And I can bet lots of players will be almost naked at some point.
No worries, once PC version get AX50, you'll still get one tapped by a naked guy from 200 meters or more.
Its the same now, what do you mean? Naked sniper can still one shot you the exact same way
Im pretty sure this makes no change for armors. The base dmg of bullets have been nerfed so a t4 vest tanks 3 m61s too now if im not wrong. Additionally i think there should be counterplay to t6 helmets because the helmets are cheaper and easier to use than good ammo cuz u still have to hit shots.
M61 still two shots to the chest even with T6 armor. Chest has 88 HP I believe, and when bullets pen they do straight damage to whatever body part.
@@alexmeyer8133 no its 3 shots to body armor. Do you even watch the video?
@@Saloman4ik 3 shots on FAL and 2 on M110. So this patch will be M110/SVD meta. SVD still one shot 6 lvl armor and 2 shots in chest even on 100m range.
You know what I’m cool with it man, it should slow down the TTK which is alright with me.
Its actually a pretty bad update for every players now it takes a lot more time, energy and money, more money spent on ammo, medicine & heals, which pretty much kills the game especially for a solo player, when its already so hard to survive against a squad as it is, now its even harder and costs a shit more to kill & survive as a solo in this game.
true... the update is ass... i play mainly solo so my time is over now XD
It is a fine update. You want solo mode not a game balance then. choose words better
@@Saloman4ik There are players that wants to play solo and there are players that finds hard to be matched with a team, have you even played as solo before, im guessing you have friends or in a clan to play as a team as and when you like? You like hunting solo players down in a team with numeral & comms advantages?
@@NobleEagle No, I am worse. I play Covert ops in a team)))
but Ranked most of the time solo .
It's supposed to be sim. a 1v4 scenario SHOULD be next to impossible.
I don't understand what was the problem with just nerf fal and its calibre,the problem was not ttk,if you like that you have to fire 40 rounds to kill an enemy,you need cod,not arena.Fal and m61 were a problem,I was even killed yesterday in 6 tier armour by a kid with fal in 2 shots,in another game I suffered the same fate with m110 from a rat in the bushes.
Here even more likely the problem was not in the fal, but in the calibre itself, you could just affect the calibre, making it so that at least you do not die with 2 bullets or with 1 in 6 tier helmet.
For comparison in this game there is SVDS,it also has a type of ammo that kills with 2 shots to the body,but it has a crazy recoil compared to m110 which also has a crazy rapid fire rate as for dmr,which you can beam with at any distance compared to SVDS.This is wrong,i don't understand why they are chopping from the shoulder by nerfing all weapons.
For people who whine on ttk- "if you don't want to shit -dont torture your ass" The point of such games is their near-realistic ttk, if you don't like it so much that your character can die from 5-6 bullets (not about m61, but about others) then you need to play other games, there are no other options, don't turn this game into cod 3.0 with your whining and mind+tactics+skill issue.
Thanks for your time,and Dean,thanks for fast review
I just started playing this game and I liked it because it was quite realistic, and bam, here we go with thre nerfs, now all of weapons will behave like airsoft guns:/
Basically they turned the sim game into an arcade one.
you don't know before you test it yourself, mobile players always had this low of an effective range and it didn't feel bad really
We will see how its works, i think they will take it back if feedback will be in opostion.
they dropped the 5.56x45 base dmg? that shit wasnt even killing with 1 headshot sometimes
It's not the base dmg that matters.
It's penetration rate that actually matters.
5.56 always been worst of all ammos in Mobile Version cuz it had very low penetration rate.
Take 5.56 A1 as example, it fails to even penetrate through T4 helmet sometimes and rarely fails headshot on T3 helmet as well cuz of bad penetration rate.
@SugarPink17 im talking about a headshot that actually penetrates, the armor, for some reason doesnt do enough dmg to kill
Basically they turned the sim game into an arcade one. They turned Tarkov into the best sim FPS again.
Lmao arena breakout has always been an arcade/casual friendly game. Lots of QOL changes that make the game inherently arcady, but that doesn't make it a bad game. I've been having a blast. But this update was braindead and makes no sense at all.
@@alexmeyer8133 gunplay wasn t that arcadish, and outside Tarkov and Arma, i don t know what else i would consider sim
@@alexmeyer8133 Remember all of these update come from players request. And arena take the majority of it
@@alexmeyer8133 tarkov isn't even a sim, tf are u yapping about
shut the F up about Tarkov... stop praise stupid russian devs when they fucked up in the leader position of extraction shooter genre. tarkov fanboys are the worst
nice update, now m61 still taps tier 6 helmets on cqb maps (wich was the problem) but every other gun has higher ttk, that was a nikkita lvl move right there
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I feel like the point was nerfing the M61 for medium and long range
@ but yet it still one taps tier 6 helmets within any range, somits what i say, m61 is just as op but every single other round has a worse ttk
@@frag8476 but yet it still one taps t6 at long range to the head so wheres the point of the nerf then, if the ttk is still 1 bullet but now every single gun has a worse ttk to compete with that
@@leanzinho_ttv dude, most bullets one tap to the head, it only has 35 hp, the only way to nerf the M61 is by making it harder to get. It's not that complex
I have more than enough space but the update just doesn't want to do anything I don't know what's going on but I thought that my TV the other day for at least an hour and a half trying to get the update to move and nothing really happened so I just kind of gave up on the game
loving the update so far. most stuff t4 and lower seems pretty vulnerable still to "meta" weapons but t5 and up has a higher ttk. no more cross map full auto lazer 9ml's. yeah, thats a W devs. good work. Cant wait to see the strategy changes from player to compensate this update
Now if they could focus on not forcing solos or broke players to keep playing the same 2 regular maps (bored already) and release 2 new regular mode maps thatd be great. And solo mode. They could learn something from Delta n the release of new maps seems way too slow. Been 4 mo.
game in turning into Warzone. 100 bullets to kill someone 100 meters away
Im conflicted to the nerfs. M61 nerf was reasonable but nerfing all the other weapons was questionable. Hope they decide to revert it. Maybe not to its fullest values but better than it is rn
the akm was already useless now they made it even more so. I don't really know why they even give skins to guns like it if they make them useless.
I do like though that things damage less. It's been very frustrating as a mediocre player to ambush t-5 t-6 sweats that just turn around and tap you despite being the ones that were ambushed/got the drop on.
I do worry that with the range nerfs what we're just going to see is a wave of SJ people sniping, which we've already been seeing, it's frustrating and annoying
Don't think that the sneak was a warranted nerf though. If anything it benefits people that aren't using headphones or have helmet impairment. I think that if you are running helmets that impair your ears, that's a risk you're willing to take, can't have everything.
One thing that I'd like to see is more variety in viability of weapons. Sure some *can* be viable, but just blown out of the water in comparison to others (im looking at you ak105)
Ak105 is no good?
I completely agree with you, I haven't played the update yet but just looking at it I can't understand the point of making everything worse than before, instead of nerfing the op stuff and making everything else better
sweet arena breakout is even better now!!! i stopped playing the childrens game tarkov as soon as this came out
So will the sj still 1 tap because I’ve been dying non stop to them lately
I play normals solo mainly the loot on there is way bettee I don't know if they updated it but I already like the new update
Easy dean. Just wondering after moving up to forbidden, after 100hrs of lockdown - for reasons of loot and stuff
Seems much better, tactically which is my pref… but what would be your go to loadout for F. Curious ?
Should I get this game guys? Would you recommend
It’s free
It's pretty good option if you want to get into extraction shooters. Devs do listen to players at least more than the average developers of other games. Game also has a tutorial unlike tarkov so you at least know the basics
I am so stoked about these range adjustments. Going to make the game way more interesting. People just need to enjoy it. Streamers and RUclips can't map people from across the map, that's why they crying. Get over it and adapt like we all have to
Just roll the changes back, what were they thinking💀
because those trash streamer bitch about M61 the same shit who bitch about T7 thermals those thing are expansive FOR A REASON!
As long as FAL is the only assault rifle with T6 ammo. It is still meta. Until it can not one shot premium helmets. Or 2 tap body
I find it funny that everyone is complaining while this is VERY close to the default effective range in ABM, even the fal is way more nerfed in m/l range than ABM. Everyone is gonna complain now and then realize the effective range nerf is not that bad
this game needs bigger so muchg bigger maps...
i have no idea how to feel about this as a solo player. i guess its good in a way that i wont be quickly crippled or 1 tapped by someone in a squad, but at the same time it feels like I would be having a harder time going against a squad. gunna have to play today and find out. More strategic planning i guess
More soloes are gonna start ratting and playing it slow now, going against a squad is bad news after this😂
now we need a video talking about the new meta and some builds
It's coming
Not the Ak74n 😭
I actually play with the vss on mobile it’s not the best by any means but it still puts in wrk for me that and sks r my go to rifle wise
the nerfs for shotgun are neccesary? they are literally now melee weapons. even pistol have more ranged
Oh god, i hope they don't turn enemies into bullet sponges by doing this kind of "rework"
They will
i mean there definitely was a problem. i had a T3 akm 1 tap my T4 helmet... and my M80 didn't 1 tap a T4 helm....
This game is going the way of COD with more arcade and more shooting needed to kill.
DeenPo....I got banned for no reason ! What do I do? 850 raids and in the middle of farm normal
Everyone saying that this update turns this game from a “sim” to an arcade shooter are brain dead
Stutters are still available to anyone who wants them ^^
Are they gonna turn this game into another Call Of Duty, with extremely long TTK ?
Мб это все таки попытка на внедрение баллистики? До этого пули летели четко по прямой в одну точку на прицеле, а в этом патче/ обновлении возможно нужно будет брать упреждение?😊
So pretty much it’s a slower TTK across the board
bruh 12x70 flecheette is useleses because how weak is the penetration and no one even use that thing...and its got nerf instead Type-8? WTF ...whats wrong with them? are they really know what happen to their own game?... they re like clueless and nerf anything LOL🤣
wait did they didnt nerf the 7.62x25 and Dum dum?
They did by lowering leg dmg spread
Did they just nerf bullet damage but no penetration?
If they nerf all ammo and range then the TTK goes up, which is what they seem to want. But if they nerf all guns, doesn't it just make meh guns even less interesting? Hard to predict.
T6 armor is now the meta 😂
TTK should be fast In this game it’s not cod, nobody wants people running and jumping around like cod. If your caught off guard you should be dead and not have time to react, that’s what sim games are about. I just hope they don’t ruin the game by giving in to cod kinda balancing. I think all the balancing should be based on the actually facts about the real weapons not based on gameplay, if that makes the fal overpowered then it should stay that way. If they want to balance it make it more expensive.
I would rather they nerfed the thermals or limit them to forbidden zone or something. Its crazy how often I run into thermal squads playing on normal in valley. It feels really unfair when you get taken out by someone in some bush somewhere a hundred yards or more away who can clearly see you while you can't see him even if you were looking right at him. Plus I dislike nerfs like this. It makes no sense to have damage fall off at range this short. Instead it should be penetration that falls off with range. And having m80 do just 66 damage now is ridiculous, let alone the m61. The weapons using the 7.62X51 have horrible recoil and are mostly semiautomatic to begin with. And wtf is up with bolt action rifles that only shoot a hundred yards before damage falls off?
Y'all were begging for nerfs so there you have it. 😂 I don't think devs just threw some random numbers in those nerfs they surely tested them before implementing them. I agree with what you said maybe armors will be a lil bit more viable. 3 m61 to the chest seems fair imo. People just gotta aim for the head now and don't forget about bullet pen which is something totally different.
This need is gonna turn the game play experience into more of a call of duty experience in my opinion. 😢
Unnecessary nerfs because people have skill issues that's just my opinion. Players will always complain on this game, i feel like game devs should sometimes ignore what players want because they will always want something to be nerfed so they cant die quick coz of skill issue
i hope the bullets gets cheaper too
This will make PVP alot more enjoyable so you wont be tapped from 100m by a MP5. also will give more time to react think this is a good move.
this isnt about balance its about economics... higher ttk=more bullets=more reason to swipe ur card to buy more...
so... witch is the new meta?
Do they know what they're doing? Or are they just rushing to nerf everything? I hope not.
Yes they know meta changes are fine make the game more interesting . U can’t stay with one meta for too long .
They just increased ttk and that's a good thing
Yo bro!
You said that 'the TTK has been significantly lowered", but if everything got a range nerf, then it shoould been increased, no?
Less eff. range means less bullets hitting, therefor need more to kill, so it's been increased.
Or is my brain not braining..
Nah my Brain wasn’t braining hahah but you got the message. It will take longer to kill
@@deanpogaming That's great news! Seems like I didn't lose all my braincells to coverts...
yet.
Nerfing bolt actions is crazy, they are already a
Hard to use as solo
Wth you're doing playing bolt action as a solo bro! It's already hard playing solo bro, you gotta use a rifle
@Alex_M1to bolt actions are so satisfying to use (and cheap) would be a shame if they were not useable
A time might come when players will just leave the game for the devs & their precious streamers to play alone.
Fps drops stutter fix ?!
Ttk on long range is gonna be endless
so you have to lob bullets now
Excellent. Most players wanted a nerf only for FAL and SVD/Mosin ammo, and the developers nerf everything and make even what was already bad worse? Congratulations. Now with FAL there will be an even more deadly weapon at medium range.. They can still cheapen T6 level ammo and it will be over. I don't understand. Why don't they remove the T7 level ammo and increase the armor's endurance? Or follow a little reality and common sense. T6-5 armor should reduce the damage of same level bullets much more, and lower level bullets shouldn't have a chance to penetrate armor 2-3 levels higher. The pc community doesn't want mobile games. We want a game where reality is at least largely preserved. For example thermal goggles should be `only for target acquisition, but shooting through optics or other aiming should be impossible. That's what a thermal sight is for. All these steps make the game worse and worse and actually more laughable. Tarkov is much better at this.
I thought this game was supposed to be realistic, now its just another call of duty with more grind and squads vs solos. 65 range on the ak is insane when it was shit already. Irl you can resonably shoot an ak out to 300
This game was never supposed to be realistic.
Roflmao bro why are ppl always complaining. Thier is absolutley nothing wrong with the direction they are going. Grow up. It's a good game.
only broken thing is the rentgen T7... people with no skill just sealclubbing players without it. Especially Valley fog. having like 14 milions never used thermal because its like duckhunt
People who had fun oneshotting everyone are mad asf lmao. You guys finally have to put some fight ,)
MPX was ass last night, after the update.
Fun fact: No one agrees and no one cares, the game is so much better since the update.
Look like 2-3 mag won't be enough now heh😂😂😂...might as well bring the expensive ammo to any match😅
The outcome is, that as a solo player, I can't chew through even a two players team. Guys are spongy af right now. Not a big fan of this, but I still like the game.
Aim for the head or chest will instantly kill if u got ap ammo
@@HuyGaming96 yup all i do
Solo players should just delete the game now !!!!!
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It's for realism purposes please get it or leave.... Secure ops inbound.
TTK was raised not lowered
Snipers gonna hate this shit
Why your screen so bright?
This is going to push for headshots. This is not cod...i do not approve of the changes at all. Takes realism out
This is the dumbest update. Takes skill
To hit shots from further away now just makes it harder to fight back if you get pinned down from range and isn’t realistic at all. This sucks
call of tarkov here we come
This is how they make the money they get everyone hooked on the graphics and gameplay then boom nerf everything and buff the most expensive ammo in the game
Helmets and armor are still useless.
You're overlooking the fact that nothing has changed in the penetration values.
I can always one-tap a T6 helmet and 3-tap the chest with M61.
Try it out on the shooting range yourself.
Even at a distance of 100m, one-tap in head, 3-tap in chest with M61
The update didn't do anything
@@achokaracho7021 you just said it 3tap, m61s were 2 tap
@@deanpogaming oh wow, great change. They nerfed all other ammo types too, so whats the point of this update? btw its only 3 shits with FAL. with M110 its 2 tap
these changes are not huge , they are ridiculous. at tier 4 u still need 3 bullets on one of the most used armors ingame an they are dead. that damage changes changed nothing in my opinion.
this sounds like a lack of skill issue
Not good not terrible. They are forcing solos to close up combat with squads tough… might end up losing many players to this.
well specially they wont separate solos and squads , but thank god delta force game out so even its bad shape now maybe devs start to think players mey go there .
M61 is still broken if it can pen t6 helmets 1 shot
Armor had no use to begin with, with or without helmet one bullet to the head is ggz, shots to the leg? Ggz. Welp...more rats are gonna be born from this cuz soloes stand no chance to wipe squads now😂, glad i wasnt the type to be running around gunning everything that moves so i can adjust, but this update is wild, they just took realism from the game by making ppl much harder to kill
Nerf a irl weapon that does great irl? Bring other weapons to that level tf. Most body armor can only get shot once anyway unless its steel. Even ceramic can only get shot maybe twice. Games is like real life no its not its far from it.
F ABI 10/12/2024
I like the change. I kind of stopped playing because I just kept getting melted. I’m not the best keyboard mouse player, but I enjoyed the game. Hopefully this helps.