"Octave Mapping" Makes The Fretboard Easy
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Octave Mapping is a technique I learned years ago that helped unlock the fretboard and pushed me to learning more on the guitar. Its a simple trick, but it will work wonders for those who are struggling to learn the notes on their guitar.
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-when you learn one thing, the fretboard becomes easy
-what is that thing?
-a fretboard
Lmaoooo
I started doing this a few months ago begrudged that I still wasn't familiar with the fretboard. A decade+ of tabs of songs I like and little to no actual musicality learned in the meantime. I recognize shapes and patterns, I know my octaves, I figured this was the way I'd learn the fretboard. I gotta say after a few months I've drastically improved on fretboard memorization so I can attest - this works!
The great thing about the guitar is there is always something new to learn…you never stop learning…thats one of the reasons I love it so much!!!!
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it’s funny that i use this octave thingy when playing a bass. but somehow forgot about it while playing a guitar
Man, this is simple but awesome. Something I know but don’t “know”. Good stuff, Rhett
I learn it soon. I’m playing 30 years though… 😅
The fretboard is definitely something to be intimidated by at first, but it really is easy once you take the minimal time to see what everything means in relation to scales with each fret number and string, as well as the chord shapes to create from those scales. Even knowing what the fret markers mean on a guitar go a long way to remember how to construct phrases and chords. Cheers
the fretboard actually is so easy to understand and the more yu understand the more you realize why people say guitar is “easy” ahha
@@doinky4345 most things are "easy" the more you understand
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@@steveeckert8396Some things get _easier_ like digging ditches but never get easy 🤣✌️🎸🎶🙏
I'm working on a series and this is one of the first things that I did. Honestly, after 18 years of playing, I found a good teacher and really sat down and did the work, and WOW, what a difference. Music has always been my barometer for everything else in life. It taught me that if I work hard and learn from my mistakes, I can do just about anything.
EDIT: Rhett you may not see this but as a quick side note I was going through my practice routine yesterday and intended on making essentially this exact video, but I have a kid so I got sidetracked. I hope you wont mind if i still make a video on the subject, just my pov 😅
I don't seem to have to know what the notes are....I just play what's in my head and my fingers seem to know where to go.....bit like on a qwerty keyboard ...I'm not thinking where the letters are to type a particular word...:-))))
Rhett, I like your approach. I had a similar teacher back in the 70's but you really get it across. I'll "do all that stuff."
This is pretty rad. My body pushes away from theory. My mind is telling me yes but my body is telling me no. 😅 This however, is resonating with me. I am able to understand this. Thanks Rhett!
Nice approach on an old problem. Great way to figure out where to land on a solo. BTW Schwarzenegger was on Colbert last night touting his new book. Seven Rules to Life. He pretty much said "There was no back up plan." when it came to his body building career. It's on RUclips😀
This is a VERY effective method for learning the fretboard. Combine it with reading music and you will unlock an entirely new level.
love the video, super useful. I just had a question, at min 2:30 how do you know where to find the 5th F# note you play? I can get to the first 4 notes doing the octaves, but not sure how to find that 5th note on fret 9, or you just memorize that one?
2:10 Deftly avoiding the A sharp/B flat argument
Are those Yamaha HS5's in the background?
I was thinking to myself "Hey shit head, learn the notes on the fretboard.". I've been playing guitar for 40yrs and I still don't know all the notes.
Thanks Rhett.
Old bass player tip...skip a string skip a fret = octave. With a 4 string bass you don' t have to worry about the B string interval change. But I found the quick reference an easy transition to guitar. Love the leaso
this guitar looks like a crashed funfair autoscooter
What the f*** are you talking about
@@pawlowski6132 about the guitar and that it looks objectively like a crashed autoscooter. not saying that I hate it or something
Rhett, how's that music factory you're building in your basement coming along?
I had reached the point that I understood what I considered to be more than enough a long time ago.
I didn't/don't understand a lot of things yet but, what stopped me cold was technique.
I can literally sit down with a tune in a phrase trainer and figure just about anything out - I may need a ballpark type lesson to kick things off but most of the time, I can rely on what I know (as basic as it is) to follow an artist up the fretboard and learn a phrase or a whole solo but DANGIT LOL Playing it is another concept in and of itself and, I'm betting there are a lot of guys just like me - Guys who can see the chord/scale shapes under their fingers when playing a phrase etc.
Something I'd really get excited about from instructors here on the tube is delving into what's really going on when they play in terms of correct/proper fingering, when to break those rules, relaxing, playing fluidly, and building speed - The other side of the equation.
I understand that technique can be subjective but it's the solid foundational theory and example of it that's important.
I've mostly had to rely on myself for these things by sitting down for hours with a phrase and experimenting with ways to play it as efficiently as possible and then connect it to the next phrase/position and it can take YEARS of fooling around just to get to a point where it starts to sound reasonable.
I don't need how-to-play-it lessons as much as I need lessons on technique - I'd sign up in a heartbeat for a series of in-depth lessons like that. Theory would come so much easier if the effort to learn technique wasn't such a distraction.
Don't forget, there is no plan B....😘
Thank you Rhett. Very, very good lesson and you are a gifted instructor-particularly for someone I've always considered a player. Often, the skills don't overlap, but you do both beautifully.
The two main things that helped me learn the notes were power chords, so I learned the 6th & 5th strings, and I usually play them with octaves, so that helps for the 4th & 3rd strings
The 1st string is the same as the 6th
So really the 2nd string was the main to learn
Not to different from the octave mapping
The other way was taking lessons and my teacher timed me to find a note (for example E) on each string
how does this guy not have 1 M subs yet?
… and remember there is no plan B….
Thanks for including us beginners. This was VERY helpful.
Get the Beato book!
Rhett - I like your style. Straight forward and simple. No click bait. I have been playing since the '60s. A very weird comment, your T shirt looks like the old Marlboro cigarette logo. Nothing against you, just a strange observation. Keep up the good work and all the best. I am about to enter the local gig market to supplement my retirement income and just to have fun. I've been doing open mics for about a year and now have to develop a RUclips channel for promotional purposes. You and Rick are two of my favorites because your channels are content based and not click-bait (OK, some of the titles are but that's OK)
Excellent video, these kind of nuggets of useful information are exactly what I find most helpful. thank you!
Hello Rhett,
Could you do a review on the MXR Custom Audio Electronics boost/overdrive pedal please? Mc402
So In regard to the reverse mapping (when u started on the B string and went back to the low E) it’s basically remembering 5 frets back and the E string note…? Assuming I saw / counted correctly while at laundrymat watching on an iPhone 😂
Holy shit ! Never thought of octaves for finding chords! Koo , Ty
Rhett! Help needed for an old sub! 😅 I’m looking to improve my recording sound, at the moment I’m going direct to my Apollo and using generic stuff from Logic. Can’t put an amp to the room. Which way should I go? Thanks a lot!!
wow you completely lost me when you started on the string that's different from the others (i swore you said finding on the 5th string but then were talking about B.). your uh... explanations jumped too much into theory and terms that beginners wouldn't follow. the start was good, though.
(come on though, you went from "if you don't know notes on the board" to the tuning intervals and other terms that like... who would really know that in this context?" do people really understand tuning intervals and NOT where notes are?)
so... now kind of not sure if doing the course would be a good idea. if the difficulty level jumps around, that could be problematic for me. :/ obviously i'm a beginner. but i do know my notes, at least the first set at the head, and also some theory and concepts. but like.... i need ONE concept at a time to focus on for new stuff, or it doesn't go in, i just get overwhelmed.
(maybe it's ADHD. but i feel like if multiple areas are touched upon, now i have to become an *expert* in those IMMEDIATELY, which isn't possible, but still feels like i *should* and then my brain is racing with all of that and spinning its wheels, instead of the small thing i was trying to learn as a beginner. --> K.I.S.S. keep it simple, stupid. i think this is key with the teaching/lessons, because then it's really clear then what you're trying to shove into your brain and it's only one thing to tango with, to "get", and move to the next. if there are other free agents.... less successful. guess you could say it's breaking the task down to the smallest parts, and part of this tut felt like it needed more broken down, or assume less knowledge. *anyway, this is just feedback from a learner's perspective.* i'm sure there's others like me, though not everyone obviously. but something to keep in mind. thx!)
Man, there’s a lot to lear here. But your videos are a bit confusing at first watch sometimes. And that’s because I fell like you give us “homework”. You condense a lot of information in short sentences, but don’t omit it, which makes us think, and in the long run make it easier to remember, I think.
I get that my comment is a bit confusing, so: I think your way of communication is pretty good, albeit non-digested or over explained. And that’s great! It “””forces””” us to learn! Hahaha 😄
One could use a formula to memorize the jumps: 2-2 2-3 which means from starting note on 6 or 5th strings the ocataves will be 2 strings and and 2 frets down and then 2 strings 3 frets down. Strating from 6th you always land on the Second string, an starting from 5th you always end on the first. If you end on first string then the next will be on the same fret on 6th string as they are both E, if you end on a second string then use 3-2 jump up to 5th string and two frets.
So the whole formula for jumps is 2-2 2-3 3-2 and 1st and 6th are the same fret.
if written fully from 6th string 2-2 2-3 3-2 2-2 2-3 jump to 6th string same fret
Perfect timing! I’ve been working on this lately. Thanks Rhett
JAMES SCOTT NICHOLSON,ONTARIO, CANADA 🇨🇦 YOU MIGHT WANT TO EXPLAIN, A OCTAVE IS THE SAME NOTE UP IN PITCH, OR DOWN. ♥️♥️✌️🇨🇦🎸 ANOTHER THING RHETT, ANY TIME I TEACH NOTES, WHY START ON E, WHEN A IS THE BEGINNING OF ALPHABET. YOU SPEAK LIKE BEGINNERS KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.SECOND HAND LION ♌️
Vivian Clements book "contemporary guitarist " called the pattern the warped W. Looking at a diagram of octaves of any note is a easily remembered pattern looking like ,you guessed it.A warped W
I'm just happy that my blagger techniques are now legit. I feel a more rounded player now 😜
Apologies for being off topic, but does anyone know what make and model headphones Rhett is wearing? Thanks...
What is that guitar???? Sort of a Jaguar or Jazzmaster but different body shape and pick guard.
the first 3 seconds you said made me realize this is EXACTLY waht im looking for.
Not much work? Dude, I specialize in LAZY...
I doing this for years.. I didn't become better at knowing notes instantly unfortunately.
I memorized where GAB and CDE's are. Then I knew the C and F ended each sequence as a half step - just another way
Something I teach all my students! Such a helpful way to visualize the fretboard for me :)
I'm that guy that's put off memorizing the fretboard, dang. It's time.
I came up with a very easy, quick, & simple way to learn your fretboard. Sing the notes: A B C D E F G put a sharp in between everything but B & E cause there are no sharps on B & E. 1st to 12th fret then repeat from 12th fret to last. Now you can find every note easy.
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This has got to be satirical 💀💀
@@daarshsharubesucc7906 You must have learned common core math & learned East from West the hard way too instead of spelling We. LMBO There's only so many notes on the fretboard & flats aren't needed & can be learned later.
Knowing where fretted notes are the same note as an adjacent open strings helped me a lot as well. 5th fret on low E / Open A string. 7th fret on A string / Open E low string. Etc.. It allowed me to quickly jump up the fret board and have a known good starting point. So I did not always have to start at the open strings and work my way up..
7min video that can be summarized in one sentence, plus the ad. LOL
what a lovely headphones. can you share what brand and model it is? and how you consider them? thanx
This is basically how I learned it, I also took too many years to actually learn it properly and once I did it all made sense. I could see how what I had been playing for years all connected and made improvisation easy and it will definitly make you a better player. My opinion now is if you don't know the neck you are kidding yourself on you will lever be as good as you could be , Great video Rhett as usual.
To be quite honest, when I started watching this video I didn't think it would do me much good. I'd watched other teachers' videos before that explained this concept and most of them went completely over my head and afterwards I usually felt a bit stupid and disheartened, but all of this video up until about 5:30 actually made sense to me, thanks for making me feel not stupid 😄🙏🏻
truly memorizing the notes on the fretboard will save you a lot of wasted time in your musical future. keep at it!
This is a nice method. However not practical if you want to learn the notes on the fretboard and use it in real time you don’t have the time to start this octave mapping
Could you make a video about battling “ice pick” tone live? I’ve found often that I dial in a great lead tone at home, but once I take it to a gig and the volume goes up the attack is way too harsh and every note feels like a battle. I have a general idea of what the contributing issues are, but an in depth breakdown would be very helpful
Turn down the treble.
Love your stuff but when trying to show someone how to play a tune or learn their notes use one finger instead of your whole hand so we can see where you are playing...
Thanks! This video was very helpful!
My uncle tried teaching me this years ago I'm glad to see it repeated again
I gotta admit, that guitar started to grow on me, took a bit though lol......
Absolutely the goofiest thumbnail.
Thank you for making this video for us
Can't wait to try this. It actually makes sense!
bros rocking the same headphones as rudy
Brilliant and useful. Thanks!
I enjoy your videos, Rhett, espcecially when you go on guitar safaris. And I also always pick up some useful tips from you instructional videos, too. There's no doubt that getting away from the simple chords at the lower end of the neck opens opportunties for learning and musical growth. Take a drive to somewhere new! Get away from barre chords, and head up the neck to find new chord voicings....and the CAGED system can definitely be a useful road map. Your guitar fretboard won't bite you! BTW, am I the only one to comment that your IV-I-VI-V progression sounded like Tom Petty's "Learning to Fly"? Even in the same key, I believe..."C". Later!
Great Video Rhett. Very helpful! I’m going to checkout your CAGED coarse. 🤘🏻
Sorry, math is involved.
Check out pat martino Octavistics
Interesting technique,,i will definately employ this strategy. Thank you.😊
When you learn something you didn’t know you knew! Thanks buddy 😊btw nice watch I have the same one
So much better than gear reviews!
Really helpful video.
Love this video Ty!
Sometimes it’s right in front of you.
Very helpful. Thanks
This technique works wonders if you know scale shapes. Those two bits of knowledge should have you playing lead all over the fretboard.
Once you’ve memorized the map, the skill to play chromatically 4 notes per string in all keys fluidly unlocks everything.
Yeah, Rhett and you can also do it from the high E string.
But maybe you haven't figured that out yet?
I always remember the different tuning of the B string as "The B string wants to BE one fret closer to you". When I started learning I could never remember what string had the different tuning and how much different it was xD
This is great, thanks Rhett. I will say, in addition to this, I'd highly recommend "The Advancing Guitarist" by the late, great Mick Goodrick, too. That really did the trick for me, fretboard and beyond.
i knew this but it made me feel better knowing i use the same ways as other people. I felt "behind" for using "octave mapping" but now I know it's something we all still use.
OMG, thank you for this, Rhett! I memorized the naturals on strings five and six a few years ago, but my aging brain is still lagging on memorizing most of the naturals on the rest of the strings. I can't believe I haven't already noticed the octave pattern you point out here! 🤦
You have blown my mind, thank you, so very easy... keep on Rockin.
Thanks Rhett, cool approach. What helped me the most in learning the fretboard was playing a single note from a scale everywhere on the fretboard it occurred between the first fret (no open strings) and the twelfth fret (up and then down) using a metronome. As I got better I increased the number of beats per minute. For example, over the course of a week I would play every note of a different scale each day and the most common keys. So day one could be all the notes in the C major scale. (C is located in six places, D in six places, E in six places, etc.) Day two would be the G major scale, etc. It has worked pretty well and doesn't take a huge amount of time. Still have a lot of work to do, but my sight reading has improved also unless we are are in Db or something ;-) . Maybe I can incorporate your octave approach as well for a different approach. Thanks again!
I use those octave shapes, plus going down 3 strings and back 3 frets starting on the E string, and down 3 strings and back 2 frets starting on the A string
News to me! Thanks Rhett🤙🤙
Why does a Maj7 always sound so good?
Interesting video that provides structure and labels to something I was kinda already doing. But now I have a way to understand some of the instinct.
Which is cool. Thanks Rhett!
Great info.. I've been trying to learn the fretboard..will add this to my practice
Thanks Rhett! I’m almost through the course and it’s been helpful! (By helpful, I mean helps me to play better so that I can buy more gear)
Knowing the fretboard is a pain in the *ss the first time you try it, but is such a valuable tool!
My first lesson starting in music college was playing the circle of fourths in all the guitar strings while saying outload the name of the note, and man, that was hard. But after that my playing improved a lot!
Excellent and very helpful video! After a lot of years of playing guitar, I'm just now starting to learn the notes on the fret board. So thanks!
Thanks for the lesson, Rhett! Just as I am starting to teach myself the location of notes on the fretboard the last few nights I come across this lesson. Things are slowly starting to tie together with learning the guitar. Playing tab and learning songs is great but I felt inadequate not knowing where I'm at on the fret board. This will be added to my practice tools.
Great stuff😊
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Thanks, Rhett - this is an obvious but very easy trick to learn. Definitely helps!
Thanks, Rhett.
RS is an accidental.
I understand the caged system so I can understand the theory of this, but i will say its all a bit much sometimes haha
Great approach for learning notes. Playing octaves themselves is also a really important technique in jazz.