67,000 miles on a std range in 18 months all good. In use as a taxi. I have shared this video on both the MG5 facebook grouo and the taxi drivers facebook group too. Had argumemts over the lack of brake wear with some facebook keyboard mechanics. ;)
Hi, we sold our 2018 Mercedes GLC last year to buy our MG5 (long range) which we got in December. We've done 9500 miles and absolutely love it. Would we go back to the Mercedes? Definitely not no regrets here.
I bought the MG5 LR after watching one of James reviews a few months ago gotta say this headline got me super worried 😟 but after watching total joy 😊. I've clocked 4000 miles now love the car it's a joy to drive I enjoy the whole ev experience including stopping having coffee with a charge, and thanks to James for getting me excited that pushed me to go buy one. Looks like I was also quite lucky to just get one as quickly as I did as well and in the colour I wanted. No problems yet just the squeaky mirror.
Seeing so many of these around the country as cabs and every one I’ve been in has been praised by the driver for comfort and reliability. We have the zs EV and are tempted by the facelift 5 next time.
Our 50 kWh is brilliant. But I have a few grumbles… It’s a bit graunchy in reverse, like the handbrake hasn’t quite come off. The DAB radio crashed a few times (screen blank, music playing, can’t turn it off) and when trying to fix it I did a system reset and now the dash pod is in Fahrenheit and MG HQ don’t know how put it back to Celsius. Dealer reflashed the head unit which fixed the crashes, although Android Auto still doesn’t often work and you have to reboot everything. I switched to iPhone, which works much better. Lastly, my economy isn’t great, but my wife gets much better numbers so I figure it’s just my driving style.
Had ours just over a year, love it, so cheap to run, I don't know why all the car reviewers say it boring, we think it looks great and performs really well. Our mirror squeaks in hot weather also. Love your show
I’m a fanboy too. I loved every second of mine but had to let it go because of a new job that came with an E Niro. I didn’t let it go far though. Only to my mum. Absolutely solid bit of kit and the nicest car I’ve ever had
I got my MG nearly 2 yrs ago and it hasnt missed a beat. Done almost 24k now and not 1 thing gone wrong with it. I have solar panels, cheap Octopus tariff and live in an area with free charging (West Lothian in Scotland) and have spent less than £150 in charging it since new (and most of that was a trip to England) . Superb car. I also got a 0% loan from Scottish Government to buy it and half price home charger. Why anyone would buy a petrol car now I have no idea. Happy Days.
Cheers James brilliant video once again !. So, I get the impression that the MG5 has stood up to the challenge BETTER than you expected then James ??. I really like your total honesty on the model 3. I know you have been a little bit "disappointed" with this car from almost the start, but Kate loves it, so what do you do ?. Any videos from the girls in the pipe line ?. Are you heading back up to Scotland any time soon ?. Hard work for you James I know ( and the family ) but the content is absolutely fantastic. We have not seen any videos from the "Mother Ship" lately - loved the battery replacement on the Nissan Leaf !. I guess you get the impression I DO like your videos by now. Difficult balancing a mobile EV servicing service, covering LOADS of miles and being a husband and a Dad. You have my total respect mate - It's a five from me !.
5:53 your Model 3 drives like a what in a what? I didn't catch that and as an American am not familiar with that expression. Skeleton in a biscuit tin?
I have the MG5 standard range and it's a great car. Before I retired I worked on a few different EV's, and although the MG isn't the most tech filled vehicle, for value for money it can't be beaten. The only thing that bugs me is not being able to lay my hands on proper workshop manuals or diag machine, but other than that i'm very happy with it..
@@Jamesandkate Thanks for that James. Could you point me towards the PDF? I assume it's the Cleevely site you are referring to? What model is your Autel, mine wouldn’t communicate but to be fair it’s only a basic machine.
33000mls, only issue is the $%^&* infotainment unit, not connecting Android Auto, and random resets on occasion, I slightly raised the headlamps, and this makes the lights much better. Very happy, I would like the facelift, i need to buy a lottery ticket now. 😆 Oh! Feb 2021, Colwyn Bay.
I was so lucky to get my MG5 LR exclusive at the beginning of June in the current climate and it is because of your videos and a few others that gave the confidence that this car was good at what it did. My previous car Citroen DS5 hybrid needed quite a bit of work and therefore wanted to go full electric especially with spiralling fuel costs. Looking around there was nothing to be had until I spotted this on Autotrader and managed to get down a deposit before it disappeared. I average between 30 to 50 miles a day on local A roads, country roads and town driving and coming up to 3000 miles I'm averaging 4 miles per kW hour (normal mode real world driving). I therefore granny charge overnight (approx 16 kW per night) on the cheaper tariff and thats enough with one fast charge only so far on a journey to London. Although this is a cheap EV it doesn't feel like a cheap car, sure its not the prettiest but once sat inside its a nice place to be. Its got an ok sound system and apple car play or android auto makes the infotainment system easy to use. I cannot express though how much I enjoy and use adaptive cruise control and MG pilot. Lane assist I turn off straight away but ACC I have on whenever I can and it makes driving so easy and MG pilot on motorways is a blast. The practicality of having an estate is also good, already we have hauled quite a bit of stuff including a upright fridge freezer that i managed to get in and shut the tailgate. The ride of the car is fantastic putting many an expensive car to shame and take off from still will snap your head back (overtaking not a problem). Importantly a 7 year 80,000 mile warranty is great peace of mind. On a other note a mechanic friend of mine now has my old DS5 and is guiding it back to health to have as his daily driver at nearly 200,000 miles. I've already emailed you guys about servicing my vehicle and look forward to meeting you when that comes round.
Thanks for this and welcome to the world of EV ownership. We’ve an e-Niro since March 2019 and love it but the Chinese built cars will really shake things up over the next few years...you wouldn’t want to be running a Ford, Vauxhall or even a Toyota dealership. We live in France and were in Bordeaux recently and saw an MG ZS being used as a taxi. An old Mitsubishi dealership in Poitiers we know is being converted into an MG shop getting ready for the launch of the MG4. Things are moving rapidly.
Bought ours in Sept last year. Only 7k so far, but loving every mile. Just quoted under £40 fir its first service by the supplying dealer, so no complaints there either. Keep the updates coming - great channel to follow. (I still want to get it on the dragstrip, but she who must be obeyed says No!)
12 month old MG5 SW Exclusive and I've done 35k miles. Same experience as yourself driving it, it really is comfortable, it just goes and goes. Only 2 issues, one is a design prob, the rain/light sensor box in the front windscreen blocks 25% of your view, especially turning left and I hate it. 2nd issue happened just last week, HV battery disconnect and a host of other faults. Nothing I did would clear it and ended up having to get the AA. AA guy says there's a software update to fix this issue. No faults showing on the odb2 but he cleared it anyway and in his words "hey presto" the car sprang back to life. oops forgot, one of my drl's has failed.
It's very reassuring to hear you speak about the MG5 so positively. Personally I'm looking forward to the release of the MG4 hopefully it'll be even better than the 5 and you'll get a chance to review one. 👍
Had my MG5 since Dec 2021 & just coming up to 9800 trouble free miles. I had a Zoe before it ( my first ev) and as good as the Zoe was the MG is way better. I agree with you James, I think the car is probably the best car I’ve owned and is certainly the most comfortable (for me) long distance tourer I’ve ever had. I have this car as a result of your review and decided to go and take a look at one and was sold on it as soon as I took a test drive. Really enjoy the videos you both produce. BTW, I also have the same squeak on the door mirror when it folds!
My Kia dealer seems just as expensive for servicing my ev as my Mitsubishi dealer was for my ice car! Worse, I have no real idea what he has done for the money. The car is good, I like it so I press on. The eight year warranty means I have to use Kia and only two dealers are within sensible range.
I don't think you do any more (in UK) as long as a garage uses approved parts any reputable HEVRA garage can service it. (depending on where you are there's always Cleevelys of course! Thank me later @James and Kate!😄) The rules were changed to stop unscrupulous dealers trying to do what Skoda attempted with me . See my over-long comment above.
Yes, thanks, I did realise that a garage using Kia parts and recommended lubricants etc and following correct service etc was allowed under the revised act. But there can often be an element of goodwill from the manufacturer either with regard to an in warranty claim or, on rare occasions, with a difficulty beyond warranty.
@@johnfaulkner6776 ah that's ok then, I'm glad you were aware. I do take your point about keeping the goodwill of the dealer. That's exactly what I was planning on with our Skoda dealer until they really tried it on after the warranty. It gave me a healthy dose of scepticism and luckily I never had a problem that my local garage couldn't cope with.
Got the MG5 Exclusive in Dec last year brand new. Done about 5k miles so far but love the car, in fact I would say it’s my fav car I have owned. Had no issues at all, and this weekend will be putting on a roof box for first time.
Absolutely agree 😁 owned one since Nov 20 covered 24000 miles no issues at all still drives as the day I collected it. Acceleration still puts a smile on my face, the MG5 is a quiet relaxing easy to drive EV. I will be looking at the new facelift version soon.
Great to see this 9 month, 41k mile update. Nice clear and concise presentation. I look forward to seeing future updates in the years to come as Cleverly continues to operate this EV.
Quick disclosure - I'm a top fan of this channel ( have been for years) and must have watched most of your episodes and reviews more than once. A while back, after too many decades behind the wheel to remember, and several years driving EVs, I finally decided to treat myself to my first ever new car. Needless to say, you'd already made my choice for me. The MG5 long range and, what's more, I only had to wait 6 months for delivery (which, in this day and age, amazed me - I was very lucky indeed). I love it. I really, really love it. I can't begin to tell you how much I love it. It just goes on and on and on. It's the first EV I've ever driven that's a conscientious objector to charging. I'll be doing 15k miles a year and it'll probably refuse to go anywhere near a charger until after its first service. Do I love it like you love it? No, much more. I'm trying not to get carried away with myself here, but I reckon I probably love it more than you. Much more than you. In fact, I'm absolutely certain that I do. Actually, I'm totally positive that I do. There, does that answer your question? 🤣🤗🤣
I'm glad you're happy with it, they really are great cars. I'm not 100% sure MG know what they've built here, because they're selling at an incredible rate. Thanks for watching the channel for so long.
We are on our 2nd MG 5, sold our original SR 5 privately and bought a 5 LR in March on an Affinity deal. It has done 5700 miles including a couple of thousand on a holiday to Ireland. Love the car, it has to be the best value for money out there and has been flawless. Minor niggle is the squeaky folding mirrors. We also have a 20 plate ZS EV and wish I had sold that instead of the 5 SR, I much prefer driving the 5.
Just passed 12 months, 10,500 miles had the MG service (sorry James) to get the MG Assist for another year which is worth the price along IMO. It's been faultless. A great car. Does all we ask of it and drives really well. First year averaged 3.9 m/kwh. But did more milea in the colder months than the warmer ones. Getting 5.2m/kwh on my commute at the moment. Can't praise the car enough SR by the way.
Just had ours serviced on 15000 and it was free. Took longer to clean it than service! We have 2 small ones under 3. Fantastic car and I'm a complete fan boy. So happy we got ours last September. We have managed 4miles per kWh since we bought it with a good mix of driving. I rave about it whenever I have the chance.
Does the plastic tub in the frunk sit directly on the inverter or is there an insulation layer cludged together? Just curious if the plastic has melted at all.
Bought my MG5 Exclusive SR January 2021, here it is end of July 2022 & just under 10k on the clock & like you I absolutely love my car, as a long range tourer it's fantastic, set cruise control to 60 mph & a range of 200 miles between charging can be achieved. A recent holiday over a month saw me travelling 1684 miles with a recharge cost of £143.00 GBP. My wife & I are both pensioners & looking at the cost of fuel are so glad that we got the car when we did. £3k from the government, £4k from MG, £1k trade in on my old car plus an interest free loan from the energy Saving Trust. We live in the top end of North East Scotland so getting to England is quite a distance (well it would be in an ICE car.) The only problem we had was with a public charger in Dumfries and Galloway when we changed it up to 95% & we got error messages about the HV battery and the car was completely dead, leaving it for about an hour we came back & everything was ok, since then we only charge 85% at public chargers but upto 100 % on our wallbox. This car is also a sleeper!! even in eco mode it goes like a bat out of hell with a heavy right foot.
Hi Doug. For future charging carry a 10mm spanner with you. A quick disconnect of the 12v battery will normally erase any trouble codes or errors. Glad you're enjoying it so much.
Honestly if the underbody doesn’t rust out from underneath the thing that will kill it will be a module failure or main battery fuse ther than that the only thing that will kill it is an idiot pulling into the side or front the rest it will still keep going for 10 tears easy
I'd be interested to see updates on this car, I got in one as a taxi, it had over 100000 miles on the clock, all that had been replaced was tyres and a mirror back, the mirror back didn't cost very much either, I was impressed by the wear and tear on the interior, it's still like new, the taxi driver said it was the best vehicles he has ever had, his only bugbear was the downtime for charging, would he have another one? He said that he would if they go that bit further between charges, otherwise he's sticking with the old faithful
I'm 12000 miles in with no faults, average of 3.4m/kwh, Front tyres required but I travel costal country roads and corner hard. Could you tell me the dimensions of the box under the bonnet?
I wish I could. All I can offer is, it's quite square and quite deep. Really sorry, i'm rubbish, but it's back to work now and i won't see it for another 20k.
It's a modern car why would you expect major wear? I have 80k peugeot on second set of tyres there no wear on interior and had pads a 60k as there's no regen. But modern carvare built well This car is the previous gen vauxhall open astra estate. Why are you surprised at build quality mg is not a small co,pay or budget brand globally.
I'm looking forward to your 3 year's old update. I have little doubt that it will still be a great car. MG knocked it out of the park with this car IMHO
Managed to get my MG5 last November. £24k. Amazing deal on it. Have done a little over 9000 miles in it, and the only problem I've had with it was charging it when I first got it, and realising I'd been doing it wrong. So a problem with myself, not the car. It has saved me a massive amount on fuel because I live in Scotland and a lot of Chargeplace Chargers are still free. Have done 2 long trips down to England, and whilst the missus hates waiting for it to charge, I think its great. My 400 mile trip to Great Yarmouth was a doddle and I've never felt so refreshed after a long journey. The only drawback I can think of is that it doesn't have an accompanying app, but t'is certainly not a deal breaker.
Good video. Is there a reason you chose to block a disabled parking bay? Seems as bit disrespectful - almost like an ICE car parking in a charging bay.
The carpark was actually closed, just a few people remaining. They allow me in there to film as it's my regular place. Ordinarily, we park in the normal area.
I have done 13,000 miles in 3 months in mine as a taxi. No problems at all as yet. Still drives and feels like a brand new car. Battery range in the summer has been brilliant. I love it, it is a lot better than what I expected it to be.
Had one for 15 months and agree with all James said - mine has done 18,000 miles and has just been drama free. I too have the squeaky mirror - I sorted the driver’s side but the squeak has now moved to the passenger’s.
I sorted my squeaky wing mirrors out using a liquid silicon lubricant aerosol spray . My car is a standard range car which I bought cash . Has now done 13500 miles and just had first service . The front tyres are at 3mm . I was charged £145 by dealer . Love the mg5 🥰
Good informative review. Maybe not a good idea to show people a car being worked on when only supported by a trolley jack. Needs to be on an axle stand 🤔
@@Jamesandkate totally agree, don't really need an estate but can see the practicalities of having one against just a hatchback. The revised/updated version of mg5 looks really nice though.
Great to view this video, have had my long range from December last year, your video and a taxi driver from Ireland who also post videos, gave me the comfort of ordering one myself. Have not looked back, and I am full of praise for this car. I have driven many cars over my 50 plus years of driving, petrol, diesel, and soft hybrid. German, Japanese, Korean, and obviously British. None have made me smile every time I drove them, this one does. This is what the EV market requires, Very disappointed with the major car manufacturers are persistent in making heavy SUV’s. They are missing a wonderful market to tap into, that is affordable cars that are good for the environment and what the majority of joe public would be happy to be converted to EV motoring. Can’t wait to see the 100000 mile video 👍
Do you not realise that EV haters won't watch this they will just post the headline all over the internet!! Why not say look how little wear there is after 40k? Not as catchy is it?
Hey James. Another 'passionate' video from you - excellent work, fella. And, I think your colleague, Matt, is bang-on-the-money for suggesting that you run this car up in to the 150,000+ miles region - it will be a great advert for your company's excellent service reputation, plus, on a wider viewpoint, it will help those EV-skeptics feel more confident that the "You'll have to change the battery pack after 3 years...!" pro-fossil-fuel-lobby alarmist headlines were simply wrong. Keep up the great work, dude... 😎
Run it and run it and run it - the only way which buying brand new can make financial sense, imo. I'm a massive fan of Long Term Ownership. Keep it, maintain it, look after it and it'll look after you. I'd love to see this thing in a few years, still under your Ownership but with 250,000 on it 😁
My first electric car and over 19k on the clock with 3 weeks until 1 year old. I've never done morethan 13k in a year with over 50 years of owning a car. No problems at all. Very comfortable to drive and very economical. I was averaging 4.2miles per Kw/h before winter arrived. Over winter it dragged that figure down to 3.6. It was recouping the fuel figure when I took it for 1st service in mid May. Averaging 4mpKwh at that time. Since then I zeroed all the trip data and now I am averaging 4.4, but often seeing 5.3 on individual journeys. My favourite thing? When someone hassles you through town trying to force you over the speed limit and come alongside at the last set of traffic lights. Quietly push that button on the left into sport mode. Hasta la vista baby.😈😈🤣🤣
In a fit of boredom I have been booking a test drive in several of the cars at the top of popularity on RUclips. While I am wowed by the technological toys and impressed with the llayout inside, as a pensioner you have to ask yourself are they worth up to £20k more.
Had mine about a month and done almost 2500 miles so far. Will probably average 20000-25000 per year with my 100 mile per day commute. Very happy so far. My only complaints are all around the software which does what it does ok, but had some odd omissions. No ability to set max charge limit. No charge timer. Doesn’t display current charging power. No cabin preheat/cool. All settings reset every time can switched off. I can always hope for a software update in the future. Other than that, very impressed so far.
You tested your tools in mine before ordering yours. It’s recently gone from family hauler to long distance commuter and is coping with the miles incredibly well. The country roads it lives on mean the front tyres went before 20k unfortunately. My bro in law uses his for gardening faultlessly.
Hi James, I could not let this pass without a big thanks to you and Kate. I took delivery of an MG5 LR Exclusive two weeks ago. I could not get a delivery of a new one after a four month wait, so tracked down a 22 reg with 2500 on the clock. I had test driven an MG5 twice. Before that, a top spec Jaguar I Pace, then an Audi Etron 55, Citroen EC4, Nissan Leaf, a Kia E-Niro, and a Hyundai Ioniq 5. In the end, I concluded that the best overall bargain, taking everything into account, is the MG5. I have owned for the last 10 years a beautiful shiny black C5 Tourer - hydro suspension - which I bought with 10,000 on the clock, and loved it. I will miss the old lady, sad to wave goodbye as the truck drove away to that great scrapyard in the sky. So, that's my experience. And why did I choose the MG5? Initially, the OTR price. With PX it was £27,000. Secondly, the comfort. The in-town suspension is a bit bouncy, but quiet as my old Citroen both in town and on the motorway. Very comfortable to drive and adjust to. The manual reads at times like that of a 747 school for pilots, but with a little application I found I could get there. Bells and whistles? Well, my old Citroen had all of them, except for a colour screen and navigation (later - and final versions - of the C5 tourer had one). Current cars boast about all kinds of stuff, but the C5 had them all. I wonder where all these expert journalists have been for the last fifteen years? They speak as if current software is some kind of miracle. The nicest thing was I've had C5 tourer full electric seats with two driver memorised settings throughout. The MG5 seats are just as comfortable and driver side electrics are a doddle to use. I've watched your videos and they are impressive. Right down to close-ups of brake disks. Very reassuring. Just one question, if you have time to answer. The box you have inserted under the bonnet: Does it break the warranty? The manual warns about high voltage under the bonnet, so I just wonder.... It might help all of us if you could video/explain how you did it. I loved your comment about the Model 3. (Skeleton in a biscuit tin?) Elon won't like that one. Kindest to you and Kate. Peter Biddulph
Hi and thanks for following us. If I needed a warranty repair it would go back to Chorley MG, they're friends of ours so i'm pretty sure we wouldn't have any issues.
Had my MG5 LR since September 2021. 16k miles, and been all over the country. Great car. Yeah Squeaky mirrors here too in the summer months. Three problems. Firstly - Charging. The most unreliable charges seem to be GridServe units. Not sure why. But it’s 50/50 chance that the charger will work at any given time with the MG5. Other chargers are fine. Second problem. Leather seats - not great in the summer. Seats got so hot on the hottest day of the year that I couldn’t sit in the car for more then 10 seconds. Had to start the car without sitting, run the air on on full for 3 or 4 minutes before getting in. Then when my wife got out of the car, the pattern print of her dress seem to be ‘imprinted’ on the passenger seat now. Third problem, the boot lid rattled and had to be taken in for repair. Something to do with the lock system. Replaced under warranty. Wish the infotainment system was better and on some occasions it has rebooted mid journey. Other then that - It’s bee a great car. Drives well, holds the motorway well. Gets up to speed quickly and is comfortable to drive.
I should add RE: Grid Serve…. I like the company ethos, the direction it’s going and its Principles. The large sites like Rugby and now Lakeside near Dartford crossing are great (yet to visit the forecourts) So would love a little better reliability from them… sure that will come as software and hardware improves.
Bought my MG5 over a year ago having done over 100k miles in a Tesla model X p100d and been stung for £15k excess mileage! Thought if I can buy the MG5 for not much more than that, it’s a No brainer and after 46,000 miles it hasn’t put a foot wrong. Great car. Navigation has never worked but unnecessary with CarPlay and Google maps. 1 USB socket fell into the fascia but dealer sorted that at the service so all in all far more reliable than the Tesla
it would be more interesting to see what goes 1st and what it costs to fix. There is very few estate cars on the ev market. there is also when does the range start dropping as the battery loses some of it cells. keeping it proves that you believe in it and showing others that the higher the miles go it is not like a petrol car were it needs small things replaced every year .
I've had mine since February 2021 (original 48kWh version) and I've only done 500 miles so far because I changed jobs and now work from home, but I do take it on 350 mile round trips up to the other end of the country and it's quiet, reliable and just utterly free from fuss. The only thing that I have my eye on to replace it with is the new version of the MG5 with an app (which I do miss from having a Leaf) and more range. The one thing that I am going to change, though, is the windows; it doesn't have much in the way of UV protection and in the last few months I've really felt that, but when the worst thing that you can say about a car is that you wish the windows had better UV treatment that's praising with faint damning.
Am I correct in thinking that the car is not available with ACC? That would be a problem for me otherwise it seems good - I have Ioniq 38KW and Passat GTE and this seems similar.
Delighted to see tyres doing over 40K miles which is good for any car. Many sources on media are saying that tyre wear is greater on EVs because of EV weight and will cause more particle pollution than fossil cars. Your demonstration challenges that view. Add in the massive reduction on brake wear and EVs come out well ahead on pollution reduction. Great to see your report, many thanks.
That comes from some of the large SUV that require very large batteries to give the range. Often they are over 2.5 tons. Many of the normal electric cars, including tesla M3, are around the weight of a ford Focus so their tire wear is similar to this type of car.
Hi James, I'm a guy who runs his cars to 3-400,000 before I change it I'm really interested in how these mg5's are holding up. I'd be interested to see if the battery would make it 250k. I'm really interested in the 5, tbh the charging network is what holds me back.
I’ll keep doing regular updates for you. We should hit 80k around the end of the year but 250k will be a few years I’d guess. There’s a new one available and a bigger battery will be added too. The traction battery is currently at 98.7% SOH 👍🏻
Hi James, on the strength of watching you're video's I recommend to my brother (who was a massive event skeptic)to get an mg5 last year, which he did. We went from Kilmarnock to Sheffield in April of this year for around £25 round trip! i've now just part exchanged my 30kwh leaf for an ex demonstrator MG 5 standard range 71 plate with 4400 miles on it collect it in a couple of days. So looking forward to an event with a decent range!, Thanks for you're video's james 👍
Hi James, just a cheeky follow up. I bought a ex demonstration MG5 from my MG dealer. I was supposed to collect it on the 9/8/22. However my dealer discovered when they applied the brake and released it the brake light stayed on. It will be 8 weeks tomorrow 27/9/22. I've contacted the dealer they say the and MG haven't seen this problem before and they are still trying to fix it. As I've not even drove this car out of the dealership apart from a test drive any suggestions on what I should do? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
I wasn't servicing it, I was videoing it. But before you jump to any conclusions let me explain, then you can judge if it's ok. The car park was closing, so people could only leave, nobody new was coming in. The company allow me to film in their carpark regularly, they know me. And finally, the whole park is on gravel except this bit. Now, do you think what I did was ok?
Got the MG5 LR Exclusive. Done over 19k miles (almost 20k) in 7 months. The car is excellent. Consistently getting about 3.6mi/kWh with half city and half A road driving in the summer. So far had to replace the original front tyres at about 15k miles. Garage said the front wheels were out of alignment so tyres wore out prematurely. Also I drive it like I stole it. Put Michelin Primacy 4 tyres on it and now it handles like it's on rails. The car loves being thrown in and out of corners like a go kart. Major complaints are the lights are terrible at night, I can barely see the colour of the car in front of me on the motorway at night at 100 yards. Infotainment system just randomly decides to no work sometimes, the radio will still be playing but the screen will be black, funnily enough it still responds to touch controls but the display just shows a black screen. Other than that the car has been sound. First service done at about 16.5k miles showed about 1% battery degradation. Car doesn't feel like it's lost any range so far. In city driving it can do well over 200 miles@4mi/kWh, official claims of 250 miles are exaggerated, probably more like 220-230. At 70mph it can do about 190 miles@3.3mi/kWh. If MG can sort out their supply issues and long delivery times then the MG5 would probably quickly replace Toyota Priuses/Hyundai Ioniqs as the car of choice for Private Hire/Taxi drivers. Absolutely nothing is better value right now.
I fully accept what you say about the MG but what I would like to know is, how well is it protected against rust ? I keep cars a long time and the cars I have owned since about 1985 (when Porsche started using galvanised sheet steel on the 944) or perhaps 2005 for most other makes with seam sealer, wheel-arch liners etc. have been so much better than those that came before. Where are MG along this path to long-term life expectancy ? I have seen some negative comments so would welcome your informed view.
From watching many videos of various EVs on sale with all sorts running report's and reviews my opinion and agreeing with James and others who have MG 5 as daily is fit for all purpose of duties might not be extremely fast but doesn't hang about either and the next facelift really good too many to James and Kate also the gang at clevelly EV again this is a absolute bargain all rounder 👍👍👍👍👍
Hi all, my MG5 Excite low range is just over a year old! 12000 miles as I use it to commute to Royal Mail centres for EV Van training. I do really love driving it and the economy is fantastic. There have been two instances when the screen went blank for no reason! Just shut off and waited for a couple of minutes then all restarted, no problem. I weigh 18st and have found that the driver’s seat has flattened out a little. I would like the passenger seat to be lower or adjustable as it’s tricky for taller passengers to access. First full service less than £100 and includes full AA membership renewal! Get so many compliments on the dynamic Red finish, have used the car as a load Luger many times and drove it to Aberdeen on holiday, no issues. Thanks for a great video again James, keep up the good work!
Hi James Another great video on living with a high mileage Mg5 Can I ask what the battery SOH is You were one of the reasons I bought my Mg5 lr exclusive in September last year Love the car Only problem I’ve had is rear brakes make a noise like old brake blocks on a bicycle wheel when I first set off in the morning I’ve had it into mg 3 times now (it’s booked in again next Friday 4 time☹️) the last 2 times they have skimmed the rear pads and discs so hopefully they will replace the discs and pads this time My rear pads have 2mm less on them than the front ones when they did the health check last time due to skimming them Have you any idea what the problem maybe Cheers Ian 😃👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Great vid.. I've had my SR since September 21 and I'm just coming upto 11k.. I was astonished to see when I checked battery deg it was still at 100%.. I did see yours was on 98.7 and for a car that I'd imagine is being rapid charged a few times a day? That's excellent to see.
Great statement from Matt ' if we can't fix it...' if there are any high mileage issues you may be the first to discover them and come up with economical fixes, add them to your skills repertoire, which you can then offer as a service to customers. At least the Tesla Model 3 'skeleton in a biscuit tin' is good for one day a year.... Halloween 🎃 👻
@@Jamesandkate Not really. These were the stock 18" tyres supplied with the car and many owners (according to the ID.3 forums) replace them when they are able. They have less tread when supplied than most other manufacturers - 6mil I think. Once they got thin the road noise became unacceptable and I was pleased to get rid as I stopped feeling safe on them. From what I read, 8k - 12k is a typical replacement time.
67,000 miles on a std range in 18 months all good. In use as a taxi.
I have shared this video on both the MG5 facebook grouo and the taxi drivers facebook group too.
Had argumemts over the lack of brake wear with some facebook keyboard mechanics. ;)
Those keyboard techs are fantastic 😂😂
@@Jamesandkate 74,000 at 20 months still good. ;)
This seems to dispel any myths about Chinese cars not being of adequate quality. 40k miles in 9 months would have found any weak links I think.....
James must be unique in his expertise in reviewing, driving, owning and maintaining EVs. If James is praising the MG5 like this, that's enough for me.
Dead at 41 miles?
Hi, we sold our 2018 Mercedes GLC last year to buy our MG5 (long range) which we got in December. We've done 9500 miles and absolutely love it. Would we go back to the Mercedes? Definitely not no regrets here.
Amazing feedback 👍🏻
I bought the MG5 LR after watching one of James reviews a few months ago gotta say this headline got me super worried 😟 but after watching total joy 😊. I've clocked 4000 miles now love the car it's a joy to drive I enjoy the whole ev experience including stopping having coffee with a charge, and thanks to James for getting me excited that pushed me to go buy one. Looks like I was also quite lucky to just get one as quickly as I did as well and in the colour I wanted. No problems yet just the squeaky mirror.
Amazing feedback and sorry about the clickbait title. So pleased your MG is doing what you need 👍🏻
Seeing so many of these around the country as cabs and every one I’ve been in has been praised by the driver for comfort and reliability. We have the zs EV and are tempted by the facelift 5 next time.
Our 50 kWh is brilliant. But I have a few grumbles…
It’s a bit graunchy in reverse, like the handbrake hasn’t quite come off.
The DAB radio crashed a few times (screen blank, music playing, can’t turn it off) and when trying to fix it I did a system reset and now the dash pod is in Fahrenheit and MG HQ don’t know how put it back to Celsius. Dealer reflashed the head unit which fixed the crashes, although Android Auto still doesn’t often work and you have to reboot everything. I switched to iPhone, which works much better.
Lastly, my economy isn’t great, but my wife gets much better numbers so I figure it’s just my driving style.
Had ours just over a year, love it, so cheap to run, I don't know why all the car reviewers say it boring, we think it looks great and performs really well. Our mirror squeaks in hot weather also. Love your show
Just listen octavia 3. mirror noises... 😂
I’m a fanboy too. I loved every second of mine but had to let it go because of a new job that came with an E Niro. I didn’t let it go far though. Only to my mum. Absolutely solid bit of kit and the nicest car I’ve ever had
I got my MG nearly 2 yrs ago and it hasnt missed a beat. Done almost 24k now and not 1 thing gone wrong with it. I have solar panels, cheap Octopus tariff and live in an area with free charging (West Lothian in Scotland) and have spent less than £150 in charging it since new (and most of that was a trip to England) . Superb car. I also got a 0% loan from Scottish Government to buy it and half price home charger. Why anyone would buy a petrol car now I have no idea. Happy Days.
That’s is the best way to buy a car, especially with minimal depreciation. You could probably sell it now for what you paid.
That’s the way to do it, I’m envious, must feel like the cat that got the cream every day you jump into it and drive off! 👍
Cheers James brilliant video once again !.
So, I get the impression that the MG5 has stood up to the challenge BETTER than you expected then James ??.
I really like your total honesty on the model 3.
I know you have been a little bit "disappointed" with this car from almost the start, but Kate loves it, so what do you do ?.
Any videos from the girls in the pipe line ?.
Are you heading back up to Scotland any time soon ?.
Hard work for you James I know ( and the family ) but the content is absolutely fantastic.
We have not seen any videos from the "Mother Ship" lately - loved the battery replacement on the Nissan Leaf !.
I guess you get the impression I DO like your videos by now.
Difficult balancing a mobile EV servicing service, covering LOADS of miles and being a husband and a Dad.
You have my total respect mate - It's a five from me !.
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5:53 your Model 3 drives like a what in a what? I didn't catch that and as an American am not familiar with that expression. Skeleton in a biscuit tin?
It is a skeleton in a biscuit tin 😂😂😂
for "biscuit tin" read "cookie jar"
I bought my MG5 in May, I love the way it drives on the motorway, its so much more relaxing, than a diesel car.
I have the MG5 standard range and it's a great car. Before I retired I worked on a few different EV's, and although the MG isn't the most tech filled vehicle, for value for money it can't be beaten. The only thing that bugs me is not being able to lay my hands on proper workshop manuals or diag machine, but other than that i'm very happy with it..
We have access to a manual online in a PDF. You can download it. Also our Autel works great with the MGs.
@@Jamesandkate Thanks for that James. Could you point me towards the PDF? I assume it's the Cleevely site you are referring to? What model is your Autel, mine wouldn’t communicate but to be fair it’s only a basic machine.
The perfect review! What more is there to add? This says it all. I love my Excite standard range car.
33000mls, only issue is the $%^&* infotainment unit, not connecting Android Auto, and random resets on occasion, I slightly raised the headlamps, and this makes the lights much better. Very happy, I would like the facelift, i need to buy a lottery ticket now. 😆 Oh! Feb 2021, Colwyn Bay.
I was so lucky to get my MG5 LR exclusive at the beginning of June in the current climate and it is because of your videos and a few others that gave the confidence that this car was good at what it did. My previous car Citroen DS5 hybrid needed quite a bit of work and therefore wanted to go full electric especially with spiralling fuel costs. Looking around there was nothing to be had until I spotted this on Autotrader and managed to get down a deposit before it disappeared. I average between 30 to 50 miles a day on local A roads, country roads and town driving and coming up to 3000 miles I'm averaging 4 miles per kW hour (normal mode real world driving). I therefore granny charge overnight (approx 16 kW per night) on the cheaper tariff and thats enough with one fast charge only so far on a journey to London. Although this is a cheap EV it doesn't feel like a cheap car, sure its not the prettiest but once sat inside its a nice place to be. Its got an ok sound system and apple car play or android auto makes the infotainment system easy to use. I cannot express though how much I enjoy and use adaptive cruise control and MG pilot. Lane assist I turn off straight away but ACC I have on whenever I can and it makes driving so easy and MG pilot on motorways is a blast. The practicality of having an estate is also good, already we have hauled quite a bit of stuff including a upright fridge freezer that i managed to get in and shut the tailgate. The ride of the car is fantastic putting many an expensive car to shame and take off from still will snap your head back (overtaking not a problem). Importantly a 7 year 80,000 mile warranty is great peace of mind. On a other note a mechanic friend of mine now has my old DS5 and is guiding it back to health to have as his daily driver at nearly 200,000 miles. I've already emailed you guys about servicing my vehicle and look forward to meeting you when that comes round.
Amazing feedback ❤
Thanks for this and welcome to the world of EV ownership. We’ve an e-Niro since March 2019 and love it but the Chinese built cars will really shake things up over the next few years...you wouldn’t want to be running a Ford, Vauxhall or even a Toyota dealership. We live in France and were in Bordeaux recently and saw an MG ZS being used as a taxi. An old Mitsubishi dealership in Poitiers we know is being converted into an MG shop getting ready for the launch of the MG4. Things are moving rapidly.
Bought ours in Sept last year. Only 7k so far, but loving every mile. Just quoted under £40 fir its first service by the supplying dealer, so no complaints there either. Keep the updates coming - great channel to follow. (I still want to get it on the dragstrip, but she who must be obeyed says No!)
We all must do as we’re told, it’s easier that way 😉
@@Jamesandkate Indeed. I will stick to 2 wheels on the dragstrip, it's safer! 🙂
12 month old MG5 SW Exclusive and I've done 35k miles. Same experience as yourself driving it, it really is comfortable, it just goes and goes.
Only 2 issues, one is a design prob, the rain/light sensor box in the front windscreen blocks 25% of your view, especially turning left and I hate it.
2nd issue happened just last week, HV battery disconnect and a host of other faults. Nothing I did would clear it and ended up having to get the AA. AA guy says there's a software update to fix this issue. No faults showing on the odb2 but he cleared it anyway and in his words "hey presto" the car sprang back to life.
oops forgot, one of my drl's has failed.
Loving the positivity. Haha at the "Clickbait" headline too. 😄 They take such a knock from the naysayers and snobby types. Long may it serve you! 👍
It's very reassuring to hear you speak about the MG5 so positively. Personally I'm looking forward to the release of the MG4 hopefully it'll be even better than the 5 and you'll get a chance to review one. 👍
Indeed. The MG4 is bloody awesome 👍🏻
Same here, MG5 too big for our needs but MG4 could be perfect solution when our eGolf lease is up
Had my MG5 since Dec 2021 & just coming up to 9800 trouble free miles. I had a Zoe before it ( my first ev) and as good as the Zoe was the MG is way better. I agree with you James, I think the car is probably the best car I’ve owned and is certainly the most comfortable (for me) long distance tourer I’ve ever had. I have this car as a result of your review and decided to go and take a look at one and was sold on it as soon as I took a test drive. Really enjoy the videos you both produce. BTW, I also have the same squeak on the door mirror when it folds!
My Kia dealer seems just as expensive for servicing my ev as my Mitsubishi dealer was for my ice car! Worse, I have no real idea what he has done for the money. The car is good, I like it so I press on. The eight year warranty means I have to use Kia and only two dealers are within sensible range.
I don't think you do any more (in UK) as long as a garage uses approved parts any reputable HEVRA garage can service it. (depending on where you are there's always Cleevelys of course! Thank me later @James and Kate!😄)
The rules were changed to stop unscrupulous dealers trying to do what Skoda attempted with me . See my over-long comment above.
Yes, thanks, I did realise that a garage using Kia parts and recommended lubricants etc and following correct service etc was allowed under the revised act. But there can often be an element of goodwill from the manufacturer either with regard to an in warranty claim or, on rare occasions, with a difficulty beyond warranty.
@@johnfaulkner6776 ah that's ok then, I'm glad you were aware. I do take your point about keeping the goodwill of the dealer. That's exactly what I was planning on with our Skoda dealer until they really tried it on after the warranty. It gave me a healthy dose of scepticism and luckily I never had a problem that my local garage couldn't cope with.
@@judebrown4103 that's good to hear. Non franchised dealers have to try harder maybe than franchised ones with a " captive" clientele.
Got the MG5 Exclusive in Dec last year brand new. Done about 5k miles so far but love the car, in fact I would say it’s my fav car I have owned. Had no issues at all, and this weekend will be putting on a roof box for first time.
Was a disabled bay the only place available to work on the ev ?
The carpark was closing and they allow me to film here. Also, all the carpark is gravel except this bit.
Had mine about 15 months and still love it, best purchase I ever made
Great review and car not for me but great car
Absolutely agree 😁 owned one since Nov 20 covered 24000 miles no issues at all still drives as the day I collected it. Acceleration still puts a smile on my face, the MG5 is a quiet relaxing easy to drive EV. I will be looking at the new facelift version soon.
Great to see this 9 month, 41k mile update. Nice clear and concise presentation. I look forward to seeing future updates in the years to come as Cleverly continues to operate this EV.
Quick disclosure - I'm a top fan of this channel ( have been for years) and must have watched most of your episodes and reviews more than once. A while back, after too many decades behind the wheel to remember, and several years driving EVs, I finally decided to treat myself to my first ever new car. Needless to say, you'd already made my choice for me. The MG5 long range and, what's more, I only had to wait 6 months for delivery (which, in this day and age, amazed me - I was very lucky indeed). I love it. I really, really love it. I can't begin to tell you how much I love it. It just goes on and on and on. It's the first EV I've ever driven that's a conscientious objector to charging. I'll be doing 15k miles a year and it'll probably refuse to go anywhere near a charger until after its first service. Do I love it like you love it? No, much more. I'm trying not to get carried away with myself here, but I reckon I probably love it more than you. Much more than you. In fact, I'm absolutely certain that I do. Actually, I'm totally positive that I do. There, does that answer your question? 🤣🤗🤣
I'm glad you're happy with it, they really are great cars. I'm not 100% sure MG know what they've built here, because they're selling at an incredible rate. Thanks for watching the channel for so long.
We are on our 2nd MG 5, sold our original SR 5 privately and bought a 5 LR in March on an Affinity deal.
It has done 5700 miles including a couple of thousand on a holiday to Ireland.
Love the car, it has to be the best value for money out there and has been flawless.
Minor niggle is the squeaky folding mirrors.
We also have a 20 plate ZS EV and wish I had sold that instead of the 5 SR, I much prefer driving the 5.
Just passed 12 months, 10,500 miles had the MG service (sorry James) to get the MG Assist for another year which is worth the price along IMO.
It's been faultless. A great car. Does all we ask of it and drives really well. First year averaged 3.9 m/kwh. But did more milea in the colder months than the warmer ones. Getting 5.2m/kwh on my commute at the moment.
Can't praise the car enough SR by the way.
Don't be sorry, you do what you feel is right. Great to hear it's looking after you so well.
Just had ours serviced on 15000 and it was free. Took longer to clean it than service! We have 2 small ones under 3.
Fantastic car and I'm a complete fan boy. So happy we got ours last September. We have managed 4miles per kWh since we bought it with a good mix of driving. I rave about it whenever I have the chance.
Great ad for the MG. And... a great ad for Cleeveley EV. You guys rock. So delighted you're in my home town Cheltenham. So sorry I have a Tesla!
Yes, that's all very well James, but get off the fence - do you like it?
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This is very reassuring. I've had mine since May, and loving it so far.
Does the plastic tub in the frunk sit directly on the inverter or is there an insulation layer cludged together? Just curious if the plastic has melted at all.
It sits directly in the top, but the temp will only reach 35 degrees max so unlikely to melt.
@@Jamesandkate Thanks for taking the time to answer my question!
@@mrdsn189 You're very welcome.
Bought my MG5 Exclusive SR January 2021, here it is end of July 2022 & just under 10k on the clock & like you I absolutely love my car, as a long range tourer it's fantastic, set cruise control to 60 mph & a range of 200 miles between charging can be achieved. A recent holiday over a month saw me travelling 1684 miles with a recharge cost of £143.00 GBP.
My wife & I are both pensioners & looking at the cost of fuel are so glad that we got the car when we did. £3k from the government, £4k from MG, £1k trade in on my old car plus an interest free loan from the energy Saving Trust.
We live in the top end of North East Scotland so getting to England is quite a distance (well it would be in an ICE car.)
The only problem we had was with a public charger in Dumfries and Galloway when we changed it up to 95% & we got error messages about the HV battery and the car was completely dead, leaving it for about an hour we came back & everything was ok, since then we only charge 85% at public chargers but upto 100 % on our wallbox.
This car is also a sleeper!! even in eco mode it goes like a bat out of hell with a heavy right foot.
Hi Doug. For future charging carry a 10mm spanner with you. A quick disconnect of the 12v battery will normally erase any trouble codes or errors. Glad you're enjoying it so much.
My Mum and Dad have one and they love it. It replaced their Saab 95 estate and they are 100% happy with it.
Honestly if the underbody doesn’t rust out from underneath the thing that will kill it will be a module failure or main battery fuse ther than that the only thing that will kill it is an idiot pulling into the side or front the rest it will still keep going for 10 tears easy
Affordable electric workhorse that's reliable as well ? Nah - will never catch on .
Brilliant update, James! I am convinced, this will update my Leaf in a few years! :-)
Or an MG4??
I think you like it! I look forward to seeing it when you come to Sheffield to service my model Y!
Such a tease. Thought it might be a Macmaster 😫 style video for one terrible moment!
Phew! was worried then. Glad my MG5 will last a bit longer then
I only have 17000 miles on my mg5 and I love it too I have a zs ev lr on order and having second thoughts should I just keep the 5
The MG4 looks like a good buy 👍🏻
@@Jamesandkate looks really nice but a bit small for my needs
I'd be interested to see updates on this car, I got in one as a taxi, it had over 100000 miles on the clock, all that had been replaced was tyres and a mirror back, the mirror back didn't cost very much either, I was impressed by the wear and tear on the interior, it's still like new, the taxi driver said it was the best vehicles he has ever had, his only bugbear was the downtime for charging, would he have another one? He said that he would if they go that bit further between charges, otherwise he's sticking with the old faithful
That must have been an early one to cover so many miles. There is a battery upgrade coming too, so if he sells his on he won't have as long charging.
I'm 12000 miles in with no faults, average of 3.4m/kwh, Front tyres required but I travel costal country roads and corner hard. Could you tell me the dimensions of the box under the bonnet?
I wish I could. All I can offer is, it's quite square and quite deep. Really sorry, i'm rubbish, but it's back to work now and i won't see it for another 20k.
It's a modern car why would you expect major wear? I have 80k peugeot on second set of tyres there no wear on interior and had pads a 60k as there's no regen.
But modern carvare built well
This car is the previous gen vauxhall open astra estate.
Why are you surprised at build quality mg is not a small co,pay or budget brand globally.
I'm not surprised, but media like to tell people how poor EV's are and I like to dispel them, hence the video.
I'm getting a MG 5 soon (company car) I'm looking forward to it (well the TAX saving) My first ever electric car, hope it does as well as James car.
Enjoy it, it’s great 👍🏻
I'm looking forward to your 3 year's old update. I have little doubt that it will still be a great car. MG knocked it out of the park with this car IMHO
We don't need something as large as the 5. I'm hoping the 4 is about leaf sized with a true 200 miles of useable range.
300+ on the 77kWh 😉
would you change MG5 for a Tesla?
No, this is a work vehicle. The Tesla would fall apart.
Managed to get my MG5 last November. £24k. Amazing deal on it. Have done a little over 9000 miles in it, and the only problem I've had with it was charging it when I first got it, and realising I'd been doing it wrong. So a problem with myself, not the car.
It has saved me a massive amount on fuel because I live in Scotland and a lot of Chargeplace Chargers are still free.
Have done 2 long trips down to England, and whilst the missus hates waiting for it to charge, I think its great. My 400 mile trip to Great Yarmouth was a doddle and I've never felt so refreshed after a long journey.
The only drawback I can think of is that it doesn't have an accompanying app, but t'is certainly not a deal breaker.
Got a mg5 8500 miles I just can’t fault this car total bargin
Good video. Is there a reason you chose to block a disabled parking bay? Seems as bit disrespectful - almost like an ICE car parking in a charging bay.
The carpark was actually closed, just a few people remaining. They allow me in there to film as it's my regular place. Ordinarily, we park in the normal area.
I have done 13,000 miles in 3 months in mine as a taxi. No problems at all as yet. Still drives and feels like a brand new car. Battery range in the summer has been brilliant.
I love it, it is a lot better than what I expected it to be.
Had one for 15 months and agree with all James said - mine has done 18,000 miles and has just been drama free. I too have the squeaky mirror - I sorted the driver’s side but the squeak has now moved to the passenger’s.
You'll have to park nice and close to another car then, see if you can evict it! 😂
I sorted my squeaky wing mirrors out using a liquid silicon lubricant aerosol spray . My car is a standard range car which I bought cash . Has now done 13500 miles and just had first service . The front tyres are at 3mm . I was charged £145 by dealer . Love the mg5 🥰
Good informative review. Maybe not a good idea to show people a car being worked on when only supported by a trolley jack. Needs to be on an axle stand 🤔
Yeah, I'm a sucker for that, old habits.
Great video!! Looking at either the update version of the mg5 or potentially the new mg4 hatchback. Hope all is well, take care
That's a tricky choice. If you want space obviously the new MG5, but if you want cheap, the MG4.
@@Jamesandkate totally agree, don't really need an estate but can see the practicalities of having one against just a hatchback. The revised/updated version of mg5 looks really nice though.
Great to view this video, have had my long range from December last year, your video and a taxi driver from Ireland who also post videos, gave me the comfort of ordering one myself. Have not looked back, and I am full of praise for this car. I have driven many cars over my 50 plus years of driving, petrol, diesel, and soft hybrid. German, Japanese, Korean, and obviously British. None have made me smile every time I drove them, this one does. This is what the EV market requires, Very disappointed with the major car manufacturers are persistent in making heavy SUV’s. They are missing a wonderful market to tap into, that is affordable cars that are good for the environment and what the majority of joe public would be happy to be converted to EV motoring. Can’t wait to see the 100000 mile video 👍
Any chance of a tyre recommendation for my Kia E-Niro that needs new fronts at 20,000. Does the MG have Ecopia’s?
It does, and they're ace. Make sure the tracking gets done, that normally knocks out the eNiro tyres.
Great review great to hear all the positives about MG love the channel and I’m hoping to be sitting in my new mg zs LR next week so I’m very excited
Amazing, enjoy it 👍🏻
Do you not realise that EV haters won't watch this they will just post the headline all over the internet!! Why not say look how little wear there is after 40k? Not as catchy is it?
I mean, it's 100% clickbait aimed at a certain demographic.
Any issues with MOT's when racking out the back and removing seats and seat belts?
None. If the seats and belts are not fitted, they're not required to work.
Sounds like a really good EV, we just have to hope the new PM doesn't screw things up with the Chinese..
I mean, anything is possible.
Hey James.
Another 'passionate' video from you - excellent work, fella.
And, I think your colleague, Matt, is bang-on-the-money for suggesting that you run this car up in to the 150,000+ miles region - it will be a great advert for your company's excellent service reputation, plus, on a wider viewpoint, it will help those EV-skeptics feel more confident that the "You'll have to change the battery pack after 3 years...!" pro-fossil-fuel-lobby alarmist headlines were simply wrong.
Keep up the great work, dude... 😎
James get rid of the Tesla get a MG5 good family car
You seem to have questioned yourself why you have the Tesla .
I'm on it.
Run it and run it and run it - the only way which buying brand new can make financial sense, imo. I'm a massive fan of Long Term Ownership. Keep it, maintain it, look after it and it'll look after you. I'd love to see this thing in a few years, still under your Ownership but with 250,000 on it 😁
My first electric car and over 19k on the clock with 3 weeks until 1 year old. I've never done morethan 13k in a year with over 50 years of owning a car. No problems at all. Very comfortable to drive and very economical. I was averaging 4.2miles per Kw/h before winter arrived. Over winter it dragged that figure down to 3.6. It was recouping the fuel figure when I took it for 1st service in mid May. Averaging 4mpKwh at that time.
Since then I zeroed all the trip data and now I am averaging 4.4, but often seeing 5.3 on individual journeys.
My favourite thing? When someone hassles you through town trying to force you over the speed limit and come alongside at the last set of traffic lights. Quietly push that button on the left into sport mode. Hasta la vista baby.😈😈🤣🤣
The traffic light Grand Prix is addictive 😂😂😂
In a fit of boredom I have been booking a test drive in several of the cars at the top of popularity on RUclips. While I am wowed by the technological toys and impressed with the llayout inside, as a pensioner you have to ask yourself are they worth up to £20k more.
Had mine about a month and done almost 2500 miles so far. Will probably average 20000-25000 per year with my 100 mile per day commute. Very happy so far. My only complaints are all around the software which does what it does ok, but had some odd omissions. No ability to set max charge limit. No charge timer. Doesn’t display current charging power. No cabin preheat/cool. All settings reset every time can switched off. I can always hope for a software update in the future. Other than that, very impressed so far.
Impressive,maybe MG will give you a free replacement for the glowing testimonial.😁
We can dream
Great news - thought there was an issue. Go 500,000km
You tested your tools in mine before ordering yours. It’s recently gone from family hauler to long distance commuter and is coping with the miles incredibly well. The country roads it lives on mean the front tyres went before 20k unfortunately. My bro in law uses his for gardening faultlessly.
The black SR from Chorley? Did you buy it??
Hi James, I could not let this pass without a big thanks to you and Kate.
I took delivery of an MG5 LR Exclusive two weeks ago. I could not get a delivery of a new one after a four month wait, so tracked down a 22 reg with 2500 on the clock. I had test driven an MG5 twice. Before that, a top spec Jaguar I Pace, then an Audi Etron 55, Citroen EC4, Nissan Leaf, a Kia E-Niro, and a Hyundai Ioniq 5. In the end, I concluded that the best overall bargain, taking everything into account, is the MG5.
I have owned for the last 10 years a beautiful shiny black C5 Tourer - hydro suspension - which I bought with 10,000 on the clock, and loved it. I will miss the old lady, sad to wave goodbye as the truck drove away to that great scrapyard in the sky.
So, that's my experience. And why did I choose the MG5?
Initially, the OTR price. With PX it was £27,000.
Secondly, the comfort. The in-town suspension is a bit bouncy, but quiet as my old Citroen both in town and on the motorway. Very comfortable to drive and adjust to. The manual reads at times like that of a 747 school for pilots, but with a little application I found I could get there.
Bells and whistles? Well, my old Citroen had all of them, except for a colour screen and navigation (later - and final versions - of the C5 tourer had one). Current cars boast about all kinds of stuff, but the C5 had them all. I wonder where all these expert journalists have been for the last fifteen years? They speak as if current software is some kind of miracle. The nicest thing was I've had C5 tourer full electric seats with two driver memorised settings throughout. The MG5 seats are just as comfortable and driver side electrics are a doddle to use.
I've watched your videos and they are impressive. Right down to close-ups of brake disks. Very reassuring. Just one question, if you have time to answer. The box you have inserted under the bonnet: Does it break the warranty? The manual warns about high voltage under the bonnet, so I just wonder.... It might help all of us if you could video/explain how you did it.
I loved your comment about the Model 3. (Skeleton in a biscuit tin?) Elon won't like that one.
Kindest to you and Kate.
Peter Biddulph
Hi and thanks for following us. If I needed a warranty repair it would go back to Chorley MG, they're friends of ours so i'm pretty sure we wouldn't have any issues.
That's great to see. Brake pads and discs are impressive for the lack of wear.
I actually measured them against a new pad and couldn’t see any difference, but I edited it out of the video because it seemed unbelievable 🤦🏻♂️
As are the tyres......
Had my MG5 LR since September 2021. 16k miles, and been all over the country. Great car. Yeah Squeaky mirrors here too in the summer months. Three problems. Firstly - Charging. The most unreliable charges seem to be GridServe units. Not sure why. But it’s 50/50 chance that the charger will work at any given time with the MG5. Other chargers are fine. Second problem. Leather seats - not great in the summer. Seats got so hot on the hottest day of the year that I couldn’t sit in the car for more then 10 seconds. Had to start the car without sitting, run the air on on full for 3 or 4 minutes before getting in. Then when my wife got out of the car, the pattern print of her dress seem to be ‘imprinted’ on the passenger seat now. Third problem, the boot lid rattled and had to be taken in for repair. Something to do with the lock system. Replaced under warranty. Wish the infotainment system was better and on some occasions it has rebooted mid journey. Other then that - It’s bee a great car. Drives well, holds the motorway well. Gets up to speed quickly and is comfortable to drive.
I should add RE: Grid Serve…. I like the company ethos, the direction it’s going and its Principles. The large sites like Rugby and now Lakeside near Dartford crossing are great (yet to visit the forecourts) So would love a little better reliability from them… sure that will come as software and hardware improves.
Bought my MG5 over a year ago having done over 100k miles in a Tesla model X p100d and been stung for £15k excess mileage! Thought if I can buy the MG5 for not much more than that, it’s a No brainer and after 46,000 miles it hasn’t put a foot wrong. Great car. Navigation has never worked but unnecessary with CarPlay and Google maps. 1 USB socket fell into the fascia but dealer sorted that at the service so all in all far more reliable than the Tesla
I’m trying to drag my wife out of her beloved M3 in to a MG4…. It’s not easy 😳
@@Jamesandkate
Give her your model 3 and get yourself a rivian R1S
got 70k km on my Chinese version roewe ie5 . No issues.
I love how you created a business I have been watching for so long.
It was very much a team thing. It's about 15% me and some other awesome people.
it would be more interesting to see what goes 1st and what it costs to fix.
There is very few estate cars on the ev market. there is also when does the range start dropping as the battery loses some of it cells.
keeping it proves that you believe in it and showing others that the higher the miles go it is not like a petrol car were it needs small things replaced every year .
We'll keep putting updates out about it.
I've had mine since February 2021 (original 48kWh version) and I've only done 500 miles so far because I changed jobs and now work from home, but I do take it on 350 mile round trips up to the other end of the country and it's quiet, reliable and just utterly free from fuss. The only thing that I have my eye on to replace it with is the new version of the MG5 with an app (which I do miss from having a Leaf) and more range.
The one thing that I am going to change, though, is the windows; it doesn't have much in the way of UV protection and in the last few months I've really felt that, but when the worst thing that you can say about a car is that you wish the windows had better UV treatment that's praising with faint damning.
Am I correct in thinking that the car is not available with ACC? That would be a problem for me otherwise it seems good - I have Ioniq 38KW and Passat GTE and this seems similar.
It does have ACC and LFA
@@Jamesandkate Cheers - Must have been mislead - will investigate further
How much does it cost? My vw id4 is great and still as new after 12k miles
£24,555 inc vat
James, do You still Have a Tesla Model 3? Great content!!👏👏♥️
Yes we do
Delighted to see tyres doing over 40K miles which is good for any car. Many sources on media are saying that tyre wear is greater on EVs because of EV weight and will cause more particle pollution than fossil cars. Your demonstration challenges that view. Add in the massive reduction on brake wear and EVs come out well ahead on pollution reduction. Great to see your report, many thanks.
That comes from some of the large SUV that require very large batteries to give the range. Often they are over 2.5 tons.
Many of the normal electric cars, including tesla M3, are around the weight of a ford Focus so their tire wear is similar to this type of car.
Love that attitude. " if we cant fix it we are in the wrong job " good man, thx for the update.
Fabulous! I’m really impressed. Mrs TT preferred the ZS so that’s we’re going for. 😁
What word best describes this review, Tim?? 🤣🤣🤣
@@Jamesandkate It would have to be ‘boffo’.
Hi James, I'm a guy who runs his cars to 3-400,000 before I change it I'm really interested in how these mg5's are holding up. I'd be interested to see if the battery would make it 250k.
I'm really interested in the 5, tbh the charging network is what holds me back.
I’ll keep doing regular updates for you. We should hit 80k around the end of the year but 250k will be a few years I’d guess. There’s a new one available and a bigger battery will be added too. The traction battery is currently at 98.7% SOH 👍🏻
@@Jamesandkate in theory the battery should still be at roughly 90% at 250k if degradation continued at the same rate. Good videos mate 👍
Hi James, on the strength of watching you're video's I recommend to my brother (who was a massive event skeptic)to get an mg5 last year, which he did. We went from Kilmarnock to Sheffield in April of this year for around £25 round trip! i've now just part exchanged my 30kwh leaf for an ex demonstrator MG 5 standard range 71 plate with 4400 miles on it collect it in a couple of days. So looking forward to an event with a decent range!, Thanks for you're video's james 👍
Amazing feedback. Thank you 🙏🏻
Hi James, just a cheeky follow up. I bought a ex demonstration MG5 from my MG dealer. I was supposed to collect it on the 9/8/22. However my dealer discovered when they applied the brake and released it the brake light stayed on. It will be 8 weeks tomorrow 27/9/22. I've contacted the dealer they say the and MG haven't seen this problem before and they are still trying to fix it. As I've not even drove this car out of the dealership apart from a test drive any suggestions on what I should do? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Did you notice you used a disabled space to service your car? Do you think that this is okay?
I wasn't servicing it, I was videoing it. But before you jump to any conclusions let me explain, then you can judge if it's ok. The car park was closing, so people could only leave, nobody new was coming in. The company allow me to film in their carpark regularly, they know me. And finally, the whole park is on gravel except this bit. Now, do you think what I did was ok?
Got the MG5 LR Exclusive. Done over 19k miles (almost 20k) in 7 months. The car is excellent. Consistently getting about 3.6mi/kWh with half city and half A road driving in the summer. So far had to replace the original front tyres at about 15k miles. Garage said the front wheels were out of alignment so tyres wore out prematurely. Also I drive it like I stole it. Put Michelin Primacy 4 tyres on it and now it handles like it's on rails. The car loves being thrown in and out of corners like a go kart.
Major complaints are the lights are terrible at night, I can barely see the colour of the car in front of me on the motorway at night at 100 yards. Infotainment system just randomly decides to no work sometimes, the radio will still be playing but the screen will be black, funnily enough it still responds to touch controls but the display just shows a black screen. Other than that the car has been sound.
First service done at about 16.5k miles showed about 1% battery degradation. Car doesn't feel like it's lost any range so far. In city driving it can do well over 200 miles@4mi/kWh, official claims of 250 miles are exaggerated, probably more like 220-230. At 70mph it can do about 190 miles@3.3mi/kWh.
If MG can sort out their supply issues and long delivery times then the MG5 would probably quickly replace Toyota Priuses/Hyundai Ioniqs as the car of choice for Private Hire/Taxi drivers. Absolutely nothing is better value right now.
So what's with the headline then?
Clickbait I reckon
I fully accept what you say about the MG but what I would like to know is, how well is it protected against rust ? I keep cars a long time and the cars I have owned since about 1985 (when Porsche started using galvanised sheet steel on the 944) or perhaps 2005 for most other makes with seam sealer, wheel-arch liners etc. have been so much better than those that came before. Where are MG along this path to long-term life expectancy ? I have seen some negative comments so would welcome your informed view.
We can't see any rust on ours but we'll certainly keep an eye out for it. If it pips up, it'll get a mention in a future video.
From watching many videos of various EVs on sale with all sorts running report's and reviews my opinion and agreeing with James and others who have MG 5 as daily is fit for all purpose of duties might not be extremely fast but doesn't hang about either and the next facelift really good too many to James and Kate also the gang at clevelly EV again this is a absolute bargain all rounder 👍👍👍👍👍
Hi all, my MG5 Excite low range is just over a year old! 12000 miles as I use it to commute to Royal Mail centres for EV Van training. I do really love driving it and the economy is fantastic. There have been two instances when the screen went blank for no reason! Just shut off and waited for a couple of minutes then all restarted, no problem. I weigh 18st and have found that the driver’s seat has flattened out a little. I would like the passenger seat to be lower or adjustable as it’s tricky for taller passengers to access. First full service less than £100 and includes full AA membership renewal! Get so many compliments on the dynamic Red finish, have used the car as a load Luger many times and drove it to Aberdeen on holiday, no issues. Thanks for a great video again James, keep up the good work!
Totally agree on the passenger seat: it should have more adjustability
Hi James
Another great video on living with a high mileage Mg5
Can I ask what the battery SOH is
You were one of the reasons I bought my Mg5 lr exclusive in September last year
Love the car
Only problem I’ve had is rear brakes make a noise like old brake blocks on a bicycle wheel when I first set off in the morning
I’ve had it into mg 3 times now (it’s booked in again next Friday 4 time☹️) the last 2 times they have skimmed the rear pads and discs so hopefully they will replace the discs and pads this time
My rear pads have 2mm less on them than the front ones when they did the health check last time due to skimming them
Have you any idea what the problem maybe
Cheers
Ian
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Hi. Battery SOH 98.7%. The rear brakes sadly do this, especially in reverse.
Great vid.. I've had my SR since September 21 and I'm just coming upto 11k..
I was astonished to see when I checked battery deg it was still at 100%..
I did see yours was on 98.7 and for a car that I'd imagine is being rapid charged a few times a day?
That's excellent to see.
Great statement from Matt ' if we can't fix it...' if there are any high mileage issues you may be the first to discover them and come up with economical fixes, add them to your skills repertoire, which you can then offer as a service to customers. At least the Tesla Model 3 'skeleton in a biscuit tin' is good for one day a year.... Halloween 🎃 👻
Had Bridgestones on my ID.3, down to 2 mil in 8k miles!
Wow, car issue??
@@Jamesandkate Not really. These were the stock 18" tyres supplied with the car and many owners (according to the ID.3 forums) replace them when they are able. They have less tread when supplied than most other manufacturers - 6mil I think. Once they got thin the road noise became unacceptable and I was pleased to get rid as I stopped feeling safe on them. From what I read, 8k - 12k is a typical replacement time.