thinking about it. eris has done nothing but improve her sword during her separation from rudeus. while rudy was busy attending school, building his social life, making experiments with the armor, and saving zenith, but he's still able to keep up with eris without wearing the armor. imagine if rudy became obsessed with only improving his combat skills. he would've been a beast.... or the old rudeus i guess.
@Yoshida Kobayashi was about to say that that version of himself was a poor soul of what happens when someone loses those who are precious to him kinda like Season 1 Jerry from Rick and Morty
@@Yoshida.Kobayashi And Eris STILL made him trouble almost killing him. So even a trainig rudeus cant compare to Eris with the wrong Circumstances. Fact is he has the Adventage if its Range and could winn but if its close quarter combat he is out of luck.
@@KiryuZer0 you talking about younger version of Rudy right? cos if you're talking about either Chadeus or Oldeus then he can see enemies attack even eris but his body can't react wit those speed but he ain't dumb enough to just stand there. Oldeus is a menace he literally kill emperor swordsman that was sent to kill him bcos he can and he explained he just one shot most of them and when they get near him he always use electric magic to immobilized em
old rudeus was able to control gravity and time he also destroyed entire kingdoms by himself and was much more experienced in battle it was also implied that aside of not being able to go in the void he would probably be able to defeat hitogami not to mention his intellect old rudeus is easily one of the strongest characters of mushoku tensei
Old rudeus at 10 million??? The only time we saw old rudeus was when he had a giant gaping hole in his stomach and was at the brink of death, but before that he could easily manipulate gravity and was basically the strongest mage out there.
that guy was a beast, by the diary he became easily one of the strongest people in the world by FAR, of course he is still under oersted and i guess maybe laplace
@@eduardomota3068 think he would be #5 in the strongest powers, doubt even old man rudeus can win against fighting god on his own. Dunno about demon god Laplace But at the same time, Sieghart becomes #5 later so who knows how strong he will be compared to old rudeus.
Guys I have a question do we see Roxy and the others die? Or do we see old rudeous coming to young rudeous saving him from everything happened I don't understand.
@@ahnaftahmid1839 Old rudeus travels back in time to warn current rudeus about how Man-God tries to trick him and the consequences of what would happen if he falls for it. Old rudeus tells him about everything that happened in his life, gives h im the diary that he kept and then passes away from the injuries he suffered while time traveling. It describes how roxy and the others died during the alternative timeline, but I doubt it the manga / anime will go into detail. At the end of Rudeus's story where he dies off old age the novel explains that Eris also died off old age before Rudeus and that Silphie / Roxy are still young and healthy because demon-folk have longer lifespans.
yea oldeus is stronger than Rudeus when he fought Alex because he was running around the world soloing everybody and anybody, he learned gravity magic, and found out that he could basically do anything he wants using magic
@@haikal_esquire2903 He kiiled a WATER EMPEROR, not the WATER GOD. His MK is worse than Rudeus MK I, Rudeus learned Saint Dragon Touki, Oldeus bullshitted about his power and got pwned by Atofe and her co.
@@1.Rizztachi nope, Eris is so Fast that Rudeus end split in half after can reach her attack, Eris in level of Atoferaofe the actual Demon Queen, and despite her level, Eris attacks so Fast she cant react properly, only atofe great regeneración save her to die
its impressive that rudy does not need to train that hard to achieve this power. by just playing around with water he manage to increase his mana capacity same as laplace
He has something called laplace factor which increases his mana potential and grants incantionless magic but in return he cant train touki, which is what swiordsmen use to strenghten their sttacks and increase their durability, which is why we see him struggle with the sword a lot
Old Rudeus is the strongest, after Orsted. He controlled gravity and time. He Studied blood magic. He studied divine and Imperial level magic. He destroyed kingdoms alone. Even when he returned to the past, half of his organs were not moved with him, he was alive for a while.
author CONFIRMED he's just Lower Great Power's rank. His MK is worse than Rudeus' MK I, He didn't get taught by Orsted. He NEVER CONTROLLED time, the world would eventually delete him even if he succeeded. He didn't studied blood magic, NOTHING SAID HE LEARNED God and Imperial level magic. NOTHING SAID HE DESTROYED KINGDOMS.
Old Rudeus can face off against the human god with the possibility of winning, to the point that the human god had to destroy the forms so that he can reach him, He is the most broken character in the entire mushoku tensei franchise, he can regenerate his body parts no matter how bad his injuries are and without reciting incantation as long as he has mana, they had to nerf him making him not time travel effectively losing all his mana and half of his internal organs so he can't do anything but warn the young Rudeus, How about 10000000 if he is practically a god
@@dingosaur00I think he’s talking about ln, most broken is crazy but he’s definitely stronger than peak eris, he prob beats kalman still even with his worse magic armour, he’s prob top 5 strongest, just orsted laplace and badigadi scaling above him. I don’t see any reason why any other character could be scaled above oldeus
@@phantom8699 honestly I only see, orsted, Laplace, randalf, and alex as stronger than him hes way stronger than the demon gods, their only upper hand (ik it's a big one) but is that their immortal.
@@hush-ik9mc maybe idk much about oldeus, what I do know is Laplace is like the other demon gods and semi immortal, and oldeus wouldn't have the magic armor. I think if he has even like prime eris it would be a tough fight.
@@thatunknownguy292 to be fair atofe is literally immortal. this doesnt change anything wrong with the original comment but its not as if rudeus was just brushed away like a twig, atofe is unkillable
@@gregerysstuntdouble2992 immortal demons can be kiiled, or he could seal her. The original comment said he could rival Orsted, when in fact he's at best 10% better than Rudeus or around lower rank of Seven Great Powers, said Rifujin.
@@thatunknownguy292 im not arguing against you on that. You made it seem like rudeus was just too weak to defeat atofe when in reality she's just immortal
I thought oldues was so strong in comparasion to rudeus at the end of the series that he invented gravity magic, electricity magic, voice magic, and like time travel, so I thought he was strong and was obsessed to gain more power to kill hitsgami
His gravity magic can only move objects, and his electricity wouldn't help in a battle with god-tier fighters because they would just block it, He didn't master voice magic, he was at the brink of death after performing the time travel. His magic armor is weaker than current Rudeus. Conclusion: Oldeus with armor Oldeus solid top 9, still wouldn't win against, Perugius, North God, Sword God, Water God, and Atofe Ratofe. Might be able to win against Death God. No armor: Oldeus> Rudeus. With armor: Rudeus> Oldeus.
@@thatunknownguy292в ранобе олдеус говорил что он может убить Перигиуса. Но если он убеть Перигиуса, то у него не останется собеседника чтобы вспоминать былые времена. Итог: Олдеус>Перигиус
As you said Rudeus at the end would be stronger than Eris without using any armor, but in a 1 v 1 it would totally depend in the distance they are at and if Rudeus is using his armors. The problem with Rudeus is that he can't use touki so even if he is probably the 2º-3º better magic user alive in the LN he still could lose in a fight easily because his body is not magical or have protection of any kind. When he use his armors he can fight agains Orsted (even if he was obviuslly gonna lose) and that makes him someone to fear. At the End of the LN Rudeus without armor is maybe top 10 stogest creature and using armor he is defenetly the 7 great power. We also have to remember that when the final battle ends Rudeus is 24 so he have a long time to train, and his strongest magic is used once in all the LN (the gravity Magic) or even the "nuclear magic" he uses agains Orsted so I really think Rudeus in his peak would be 2º-3º strongest creature alive (using his armor), we have to remember that he can Improve his armors too and Atofe said that using his armor he is at God Class mele lvl (the higher).
Nah Rudeus without armor is a lot weaker than Eris. But Rudeus was defenitely the 4th strongest creature in the world wearing the MK-0, only Alexander Raybak, Badigadi and Orsted (and maybe Hitogami) were stronger than him. Maybe I am wrong, but Eris could still beat Oldeus in MK-1. I don't really remember.
author CONFIRMED he's just Lower Great Power's rank. His MK is worse than Rudeus' MK I, He didn't get taught by Orsted. He NEVER CONTROLLED time, the world would eventually delete him even if he succeeded. He didn't studied blood magic, NOTHING SAID HE LEARNED God and Imperial level magic. NOTHING SAID HE DESTROYED KINGDOMS.
no way eris was as strong as rudy at the time of the 2nd fight vs orsted. Rudi literally made the strongest man on the world use all of his magic power and damaged him a lot in melee fight, whilst eris just held back a severely wounded swordsman with no magic left at all.
Youre overestimating him. It was a low diff fight the moment he knew he wasn't up against a normal opponent and was aware of Rudis' location. The large-scale spells at the beginning drained maybe 25% of his mana at a push to defend, and then he perhaps needed another 10% for the god sword. All in all, it really wasn't that draining capacity wise. The kicker is that he needs to be at close to full capacity to stand a chance against hitogami, and his magic comes back thousands of times slower. Considering the strong opponents he was conserving energy for if required, like laplace, this battle was a massive strategic loss. It was a great show of how strength isn't the only factor on who wins a battle. For context, he was probably still recovering mana from the rudi fight, even by the end of rudis story.
@@metronome7799exactly. Rudy made orsted bleed and use alot of magic(it was mid diff fight or slightly lower) while eris would lose in a single or 2 blow from orsted
he was literally crawling on the floor using his teeth vs orsted in the second fight. To be fair orsted was really just watching Eris although she countered his moves where as Rudeus straigh up failed a surprise attack.
@@Xxxxxxxxxxzzzsasff bro did not read the novel. Eris had a 1 in 4 chance to even be able to counter orsted's Longsword of light. Rudy damaged Orsted more overall, but Eris would straight up die in an instant if she tried to pull up with a Longsword of light carelesly, Orsted is at the divine water god level
This comparison is really bad. First, we don't get shown how strong each one of them is compared to the other at roughly the same time, but rather when they themselves reach certain milestones. Why would you compare an infant Rudy to an Eris on her anime debut. That's foolish in any sense of the word. The video should've compared their Levels, during certain points in time, for example in Rikarisu, Windport, Beast Forest, Millis, Shirone, Orsted fight etc. But it's just confusing this way. The thing the pushed me over the edge was their combatative strength level at the Orsted rematch. Yes, Eris has grown very very strong, but she is nowhere near Rudeus at that point. Rudeus in his Magic Armor Mk. 1 forced Orsted to draw his blade and made him go all out, otherwise he would've not been able to end the fight, with some mana left in him. The guy didn't even think about drawing his sword against the Water God Reida, and Eris wasn't even able to defeat Reida's pupil Isolte, much less Reida herself. The only reason Eris even got a hit on Orsted was because the latter held back massively. He didn't use the real Sword of Light, just a rather fast swing, since he was anticipating Eris to be on a similar level to the Eris he met in previous loops. That version of Eris never reached the rank of Sword King and wasn't ever able to counter a real Sword of Light. Thinking that Eris (Boreas) Greyrat was still a needed figure for Ariel to ascend the throne of Asura, Orsted probably just used a attack that would render the previous Eris out of the fight, but not on death's door and after that he would've probably just finished Rudeus. Eris never in her life surpassed the capabilities of Rudeus in his M-A Mk. 1. Change my mind
If I remember correctly in vol 16-17 it is said that Rudeus with his MK1 usually trains with Eris, and most of the time he lost and if I'm not mistaken I think he could never beat her. At close range Rudeus max probably rivals a king rank; Rudeus gave him a good fight because he took much distance, when Orsted shortened the distance he left him half dead with 1 hit
@Josue Bardales Vol 16 and 17 Cover the Asura Kingdom Arc, and since the MK 1 got completely destroyed in Vol 15, it's highly unlikely that your take is correct. I remember a training session between Eris and Rudy in those volumes where they had 10 mock battles and Rudeus lost every of those duels apart from the one, where he managed to block Eris' swing with his Prosthesis. He managed to kill a God with the MK 1 later in the story. At close range at that. There's no way Eris can take him on in that. She only wins cause Rudy would never use magic against her, which could seriously hurt her.
@@layedbackObserver6504 If you mean Alexander Rybak, you forget that Rudeus won when Alexander was without an arm and after Alexander having fought solo vs 4 or 5 I don't remember well. And if you mean Badigadi with the armor, it was because he had already fought for days doing a 1 v 6-9 I still believe that maybe Rudeus can win a King at the end of novels but an Emperor maybe very hard. That's not bad, that's balancing the character and that a mage can't solo a swordsman focused on short-range combat
@Josue Bardales the people that Kalman III fought were Eris, Rudeus, and Ruijerd, weren't they ? Due to the King Dragon Gravity Sword, neither Eris nor Ruijerd managed to get close to him to inflict damage. It was then that the former North God, Kalman II, stepped in to fight him but got taken out after a short while. Barely enough time for Rudeus to get the MK 1 and return to the battlefield. Kalman III might have fought against multiple people, but he only lost some mana. The injuries he suffered were so minor that his immortal body managed to heal them. Don't forget that Rudeus only just managed to return from the earth wyrm cavern, he was thrown into by Gal Farion earlier. All in all, both parties were weakened by the time they fought their duel, which Rudy won at close range by the way.
she didn't become sword emperer couse she would need to kill ghislaine she would be the best sword emperor, she would not beat the sword god (jino), but she beat sword god (gal) - ruijierd shielded her from his attack once, but gal feared that she is better than him, so he used water sword god technic and still lose (she would also die if ruijierd didn't shield her), she alfo cut off kalman 3 arm (north god) - he was distracted, but also was using the dragon king sword (cursed and op broken sword so this does not count couse even kalman 2 couldn't beat his son but said that he is superior in technic) and she was only person confirmed to cut off a limb of orsted in a fair fight (he was injired by rudy but he healed in less than 1 sec so xd) we know that she is better than water god and superior to kalman 3rd in a fair fight, so sword ranking would looks like: orsted > jino > eris > kalman 3 > reida
Being saint level and knowing a saint level skill are two different things. Rudeus was saint level at 5 years old bc he knew the skill colonimbus but he was still not strong enough to beat intermediate level guys at during episode 5. These ranking aren’t horrible but just wanted to clarify the basis behind certain scalings
@@MauricioRuffy Rifujin literally said Oldeus was just 10-20% more than Rudeus at best🤣, Rifujin also said that Oldeus with MK 0 couldn't even beat Kalman III.
@@doctorfreeman08 His gravity magic can only move objects, and his electricity wouldn't help in a battle with god-tier fighters because they would just block it, He didn't master voice magic, he was at the brink of death after performing the time travel. His magic armor is weaker than current Rudeus. Conclusion: Oldeus with armor Oldeus solid top 9, still wouldn't win against, Perugius, North God, Sword God, Water God, and Atofe Ratofe. Might be able to win against Death God. No armor: Oldeus> Rudeus. With armor: Rudeus> Oldeus.
@@thatunknownguy292Опять же Олдеус в новелле говорил что он может убить Перигиуса, но причина почему не убил заключается в том что он был единственным собеседником с которым можно разговаривать о прошлом...
@@thatunknownguy292С Atofe Ratofe тоже самое. В новелле говорилось что он просто раслабился и недооценил Мура. Мур - сильный маг. А так думаю здесь он просто раслабился из за бесчисленных битв в которым он убивал всех кто вставал на его пути. Или просто на это повлиял Хотогами....
id like to see 8-10 year old eris take an intermediate spell head one and stay conscious that shit blew up half a house at this point eris is just an aggressive child. Even with rudeus needing to concentrate to cast still, 3 year old rudeus no diffs eris pre/tp all
Is there some explanation about those numbers? How they appeared? Is this magic+sword skill+ brain? Seen video like this but can't understand where we take this numbers
OLD rudeus a 10 M AHAHAHAHAHAHH, my boy clapped emperor and king enemy on a dayli basis and obtain countless magic like gravity and time travel ahahahhaha
author CONFIRMED he's just Lower Great Power's rank. His MK is worse than Rudeus' MK I, He didn't get taught by Orsted. EVEN THE SUPPOSED STRONGEST MAGIC USER COULDN't EVEN MOVE A HUMAN, and you started making bullshit about him? He NEVER CONTROLLED time, the world would eventually delete him even if he succeeded. He didn't studied blood magic, NOTHING SAID HE LEARNED God and Imperial level magic. NOTHING SAID HE DESTROYED KINGDOMS.
BRUH Old Rudeus was basically obseessed with magic an becoming stronger and you actually ranked him lower than his younger self? You trippin' blud, like on hardcore drugs or something.
why tf does eris's power triple between the orsted fight and her arrival at the holy land of swords? we can see how short her hair is. 2 months at absolute most passed Eris has been high end advanced rank for awhile now, and since she caught 2 low end saints off guard she was given the saint rank title but she can't perform the long sword of light so obviously she is significantly weaker than a saint rank if she is using sword god style conventions. I swear just using north god style bumps you up like a rank and a half who tf decided that sword god style is the strongest.
Yes, she trained so much and also that Swordman are really OP, they can win in most battle scenarios against a mage at the same level. A Saint mage will loose almost all the time against a Saint Swordman, the only way is that the mage has the long distance free and the swordman was baited, because the use of touki give much advantage. And for Rudeus, he is one of the few people in that world that can't use touki, even mages can use touki to some degree (far inferior than swordmans but still) so he becoming that strong without being able to use touki at all is amazing (Later he get something "similar" but even before that Rudeus could beat swordmen in the same level as him in much more scenarios than any other mage).
@@wehreoc360nos i read the ln and you cant compare rudeus as usual saint level mage vs saint level swordsman cuz he can use voiceless incantation, the incantation is the greatest factor why same level mage loses to swordsman. Rudeus also has the demon eye even on close range I think he has no problem putting a space between them using voiceless magic instantly. So i think if they fought seriously to death at any timeline rudeus would win 99%
@@atkinsoncheng3323 with armor yes. But without armor in his usual state, he cannot tank any blows and his body cannot move fast enough to evade blows from touki enhanced swordsmen even if he has the demon eye. And remember, the demon eye will show different possibilities of attack if the attacker has multiple routes they can take, and rendering it not all that useful in a high level fight.
The only way I can think of that oldeus in this list could make sense is if this is his effective power after the backlash of the time travel. He was missing several organs and most likely no mana and still 10mil. I'd say maybe least 19 mil even in that state though.
@@Yoshida.Kobayashi Yes I have. If we assume Rudy and Eris were approximately equals during Turning Point II then there is no way Rudeus could be stronger than Eris before going to school considering in the years before they reunited Eris did nothing but train whereas Rudeus only did missions which were relatively easy for him. The only way you could argue Eris was weaker is if you think Rudeus suddenly had a growth in strength during this time but there is no evidence to support that.
@@Emerardo rudeus from age 5 to 15 is still the same in power so there's no growth in magic he just trained his body after depression arc. rudy only want to protect his family but in reality he doesn't care about who's stronger
You have to realize that Eris is the absolute strongest in the Greyrat family, If Rudeus got a fully connected blow without his armour, it would be instant death. But Eris takes a few blows (if I remember correctly) and still gets up to fight.
@@h33LingZ the old rudeus from another alternative time was so bloodthirsty that he had to learn all kinds of magic, he tried harder than the rudeus of the present, he had a strong desire for revenge for what hitogami did, he tried to the point of be the strongest of all the 7 great powers, but in the old rudeus he did not beat orsted but the other 7 great powers did without problems, he even knows how to manipulate gravity that in the world of mushoku that manipulating gravity if it is too much powerful, the old rudeus was looking for orsted to form an alliance, but could not find him since orsted reached his cycle.
@@eliasrodriguez6967 Stop bluffing, his gravity magic can only move objects, and his electricity wouldn't help in a battle with god-tier fighters because they would just block it, He didn't master voice magic, he was on the brink of death after performing the time travel. His magic armor is weaker than current Rudeus. Conclusion: Oldeus with armor Oldeus solid top 9, still wouldn't win against, Perugius, North God, Sword God, Water God, and Atofe Ratofe. Might be able to win against Death God. No armor: Oldeus> Rudeus. With armor: Rudeus> Oldeus.
Rudeus is stronger overall, but without his magic armor, he is basically helpless against eris in close combat. That's the case basically since the moment she became sword king and to the end actualy. Only with the advantage of distance does rudeus stand a chance against her in practicality.
The last info was incorrect. If old rudes from the first time actually had a battle with eris, eris would have been defeated in a single blow💀 Trust me rudes from the first timeline is much more dangerous than he looks like...
Oye oye oye......I know he was weak , but it was coz of Injuries.....All the previous comparisons were at full health.....Ma man's basically at deaths door........Not a fair comparison (He still damn even when weakened☠️)
Bruh old rudeus was broken..the only time we saw him was when he was damn near death alteady due to him committing suicide to go back in time to warn his younger self but before he time jumped, he was one of the strongest people in his timeline. He went around killing demon kings, members of the seven great powers etc. He was so broken freaken man god destroyed all ways that would allow oldeus to enter his realm because he feared rudeus was capable of killing him.
Rudeus is stronger in magic and Eris is stronger in swordsmanship, but if you take LN, then Rudeus is the god of magic, and you don’t need to tell me about the speed of Eris
A. you didn’t include rudeus with MK armour B. Oldues was much stronger than rudeus (without mk armour) C. Eris was never god level, if I’m correct she at best got to king level
@@thatboytae2 put her against any of the gods, she loses if they are in their prime. Yes my fault, she is an emperor level, the difference between emperor and god is immense, it could take centuries to go up a rank. It’s like comparing mountain level, to continent level
Rudeus vs orsted was WAY stronger that eris, she did hit him with a one shot atack desingend 100% to hit orsted, and she dont do even the 10% of damage that rudeus already did to him.
I know it's your opinion but it's wrong haha. Oldeus is the strongest human we know of. Oldeus could beat Gal Farion, Jino and even Death God, he should have to be over Eris by far (since he beat her multiple times) and only below Rudeus with MK-0. Now, you underestimated Rudeus with arms way too much. Rudeus with MK-I weaker than Eris when both fought Orsted? Bro, Orsted had to use his Godsword to beat the armor, he beat Eris barehanded. Rudeus with MK-I is only below Rudeus with MK-0 who is the strongest since he beat the Fighting God with it... Still, this was a nice watch don't take me wrong haha
Lmao, let's just forget Saint Millis, Ars, Al Farion, Reidar, these guys could easily defeat Rudeus and Oldeus at any given distance. His gravity magic can only move objects, and his electricity wouldn't help in a battle with god-tier fighters because they would just block it, He didn't master voice magic, he was on the brink of death after performing the time travel. His magic armor is weaker than current Rudeus. Conclusion: Oldeus with armor Oldeus solid top 9, still wouldn't win against, Perugius, North God, Sword God, Water God, and Atofe Ratofe. Might be able to win against Death God. No armor: Oldeus> Rudeus. With armor: Rudeus> Oldeus.
@@FlyAchX manga💀that's why she couldn't even do shit against orsted and in thr LN redeus doesn't train and still is stronger than her we don't want to talk about old redeus
@@titochacha5911 Is that why Rudeus, from a convenient distance and in armor, could only leave scratches and dents on Orsted's body, while Eris cut off his hand?Lol
Oldeus at number 5? Are you kidding me? Mfers magical abilities was superior to rudeus. His healing magic was so advanced it could regenerate limbs, he was a master of gravity magic and developed time travel magic. Wtf?
thinking about it. eris has done nothing but improve her sword during her separation from rudeus. while rudy was busy attending school, building his social life, making experiments with the armor, and saving zenith, but he's still able to keep up with eris without wearing the armor. imagine if rudy became obsessed with only improving his combat skills. he would've been a beast.... or the old rudeus i guess.
oldeus is the version of rudy without overthink and obsessed with power
@Yoshida Kobayashi was about to say that that version of himself was a poor soul of what happens when someone loses those who are precious to him kinda like Season 1 Jerry from Rick and Morty
@@Yoshida.Kobayashi And Eris STILL made him trouble almost killing him. So even a trainig rudeus cant compare to Eris with the wrong Circumstances. Fact is he has the Adventage if its Range and could winn but if its close quarter combat he is out of luck.
@@KiryuZer0 you talking about younger version of Rudy right? cos if you're talking about either Chadeus or Oldeus then he can see enemies attack even eris but his body can't react wit those speed but he ain't dumb enough to just stand there. Oldeus is a menace he literally kill emperor swordsman that was sent to kill him bcos he can and he explained he just one shot most of them and when they get near him he always use electric magic to immobilized em
@@Yoshida.Kobayashi right if I remember he disregarded peragus as if he could kill him easily stating emperors where nothing to him
old rudeus was able to control gravity and time he also destroyed entire kingdoms by himself and was much more experienced in battle it was also implied that aside of not being able to go in the void he would probably be able to defeat hitogami not to mention his intellect old rudeus is easily one of the strongest characters of mushoku tensei
If he doesn't choose his methods, he would probably be the strongest in humanity.
defeat hitogami? Are you sure?
@@修羅組да, а автор посчитал что он слабее Ерис почти в два раза 😭😭💀💀
old redues can time travel he is way higher.like 35m
@@lemyrzik-maencrafter77но в дневнике он писал что не раз проигрывал Эрис))
Old rudeus at 10 million???
The only time we saw old rudeus was when he had a giant gaping hole in his stomach and was at the brink of death, but before that he could easily manipulate gravity and was basically the strongest mage out there.
that guy was a beast, by the diary he became easily one of the strongest people in the world by FAR, of course he is still under oersted and i guess maybe laplace
@@eduardomota3068 think he would be #5 in the strongest powers, doubt even old man rudeus can win against fighting god on his own. Dunno about demon god Laplace
But at the same time, Sieghart becomes #5 later so who knows how strong he will be compared to old rudeus.
Guys I have a question do we see Roxy and the others die? Or do we see old rudeous coming to young rudeous saving him from everything happened I don't understand.
@@ahnaftahmid1839 Old rudeus travels back in time to warn current rudeus about how Man-God tries to trick him and the consequences of what would happen if he falls for it. Old rudeus tells him about everything that happened in his life, gives h im the diary that he kept and then passes away from the injuries he suffered while time traveling.
It describes how roxy and the others died during the alternative timeline, but I doubt it the manga / anime will go into detail. At the end of Rudeus's story where he dies off old age the novel explains that Eris also died off old age before Rudeus and that Silphie / Roxy are still young and healthy because demon-folk have longer lifespans.
the current rudeus could use gravity too no??
The source: trust me bro
yeah lol
Not accurate
Bro have you not heard of something called LN.
Still makes no sense she didnt get that much stronger after fighting orsted.
@@Chad-jy7yrshe did, became a sword king
yea oldeus is stronger than Rudeus when he fought Alex because he was running around the world soloing everybody and anybody, he learned gravity magic, and found out that he could basically do anything he wants using magic
Yee oldeus is insane...he kill reida reia 1 vs 1...he kill alot of touki user, i think oldeus stronges than eria
Papi la mk0 con la espada del dragón le gana a oldeus
@@haikal_esquire2903 Old Eris and old Rudeus were much stronger .
@@haikal_esquire2903 He kiiled a WATER EMPEROR, not the WATER GOD. His MK is worse than Rudeus MK I, Rudeus learned Saint Dragon Touki, Oldeus bullshitted about his power and got pwned by Atofe and her co.
@@ВолодимирКвачук oh yes, 2 beings who were not taught by Orsted are stronger than those who did.
Rudeus as Magic user is far away from eris meanwhile Eris as swordman is in another dimension, what a parallelism
Yeah but in a fight Rudeus win for sure thanks to his demoniac eyes and Is strategy, not to mention his insane magic power
His eyes would help and his abilities at the end are overpowered. His nuke attack can easily kill her
@1.Rizztachi in the first bad ending timeline he was beaten by eris in his prime so eris is much stronger
@@1.Rizztachi nope, Eris is so Fast that Rudeus end split in half after can reach her attack, Eris in level of Atoferaofe the actual Demon Queen, and despite her level, Eris attacks so Fast she cant react properly, only atofe great regeneración save her to die
@@SabaKikaleishvili Nope that was before he learned gravity magic and became a solo king. Also he now has magic armour.
its impressive that rudy does not need to train that hard to achieve this power. by just playing around with water he manage to increase his mana capacity same as laplace
He has something called laplace factor which increases his mana potential and grants incantionless magic but in return he cant train touki, which is what swiordsmen use to strenghten their sttacks and increase their durability, which is why we see him struggle with the sword a lot
Where can i read the manga ? Or is it novel ?
@@hye-carl9877 mushoku tensei? It has a manga and anime on going
@@kim-zg3hv tq .. i found it the full novel last night at google ..
@@kim-zg3hv light novel too. thats the one most done
Old Rudeus is the strongest, after Orsted. He controlled gravity and time. He Studied blood magic. He studied divine and Imperial level magic. He destroyed kingdoms alone. Even when he returned to the past, half of his organs were not moved with him, he was alive for a while.
author CONFIRMED he's just Lower Great Power's rank. His MK is worse than Rudeus' MK I, He didn't get taught by Orsted. He NEVER CONTROLLED time, the world would eventually delete him even if he succeeded. He didn't studied blood magic, NOTHING SAID HE LEARNED God and Imperial level magic. NOTHING SAID HE DESTROYED KINGDOMS.
Old Rudeus can face off against the human god with the possibility of winning, to the point that the human god had to destroy the forms so that he can reach him, He is the most broken character in the entire mushoku tensei franchise, he can regenerate his body parts no matter how bad his injuries are and without reciting incantation as long as he has mana, they had to nerf him making him not time travel effectively losing all his mana and half of his internal organs so he can't do anything but warn the young Rudeus, How about 10000000 if he is practically a god
Bro only the light novel and manga are canon
@@dingosaur00I think he’s talking about ln, most broken is crazy but he’s definitely stronger than peak eris, he prob beats kalman still even with his worse magic armour, he’s prob top 5 strongest, just orsted laplace and badigadi scaling above him. I don’t see any reason why any other character could be scaled above oldeus
@@phantom8699 honestly I only see, orsted, Laplace, randalf, and alex as stronger than him
hes way stronger than the demon gods, their only upper hand (ik it's a big one) but is that their immortal.
@@dingosaur00tbh his magic power was already on par with laplace when he fought orsted for the first time, oldeus probably beats him
@@hush-ik9mc maybe idk much about oldeus, what I do know is Laplace is like the other demon gods and semi immortal, and oldeus wouldn't have the magic armor. I think if he has even like prime eris it would be a tough fight.
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Old Rudeus could rival Orsted or maybe was stronger, no one knew how strong he is but he challenged many demon kings and killed them
И выжил, он буквально стал жестоким и профессиональным убицей
fallacy, the only time he challenged a demon king was Atoferatofe and he got pwned.
@@thatunknownguy292 to be fair atofe is literally immortal. this doesnt change anything wrong with the original comment but its not as if rudeus was just brushed away like a twig, atofe is unkillable
@@gregerysstuntdouble2992 immortal demons can be kiiled, or he could seal her. The original comment said he could rival Orsted, when in fact he's at best 10% better than Rudeus or around lower rank of Seven Great Powers, said Rifujin.
@@thatunknownguy292 im not arguing against you on that. You made it seem like rudeus was just too weak to defeat atofe when in reality she's just immortal
I thought oldues was so strong in comparasion to rudeus at the end of the series that he invented gravity magic, electricity magic, voice magic, and like time travel, so I thought he was strong and was obsessed to gain more power to kill hitsgami
Yes, I also think he is the strongest version of Rudeus so far
His gravity magic can only move objects, and his electricity wouldn't help in a battle with god-tier fighters because they would just block it, He didn't master voice magic, he was at the brink of death after performing the time travel. His magic armor is weaker than current Rudeus.
Conclusion:
Oldeus with armor Oldeus solid top 9, still wouldn't win against, Perugius, North God, Sword God, Water God, and Atofe Ratofe. Might be able to win against Death God.
No armor: Oldeus> Rudeus.
With armor: Rudeus> Oldeus.
@@thatunknownguy292в ранобе олдеус говорил что он может убить Перигиуса. Но если он убеть Перигиуса, то у него не останется собеседника чтобы вспоминать былые времена. Итог: Олдеус>Перигиус
@@thatunknownguy292 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
@@thatunknownguy292 he was 2 minutes from death when we saw him help rudeus if he was full strength he would be stronger
As you said Rudeus at the end would be stronger than Eris without using any armor, but in a 1 v 1 it would totally depend in the distance they are at and if Rudeus is using his armors. The problem with Rudeus is that he can't use touki so even if he is probably the 2º-3º better magic user alive in the LN he still could lose in a fight easily because his body is not magical or have protection of any kind. When he use his armors he can fight agains Orsted (even if he was obviuslly gonna lose) and that makes him someone to fear.
At the End of the LN Rudeus without armor is maybe top 10 stogest creature and using armor he is defenetly the 7 great power. We also have to remember that when the final battle ends Rudeus is 24 so he have a long time to train, and his strongest magic is used once in all the LN (the gravity Magic) or even the "nuclear magic" he uses agains Orsted so I really think Rudeus in his peak would be 2º-3º strongest creature alive (using his armor), we have to remember that he can Improve his armors too and Atofe said that using his armor he is at God Class mele lvl (the higher).
Nah Rudeus without armor is a lot weaker than Eris. But Rudeus was defenitely the 4th strongest creature in the world wearing the MK-0, only Alexander Raybak, Badigadi and Orsted (and maybe Hitogami) were stronger than him. Maybe I am wrong, but Eris could still beat Oldeus in MK-1. I don't really remember.
@@wildBob228 eris started to ALWAYS lose to oldeus at some point when he made his armor
In other words, Rudeus is stronger then Eris.
@@eduardomota3068 NO, It was stated after SHE PASSED 50 years old.
Even the current Rudy never wins to Eris when it comes to short distances without armor
Old rudeus is definitely the strongest version man got nothing to lose and been killing man god and demon left and right
author CONFIRMED he's just Lower Great Power's rank. His MK is worse than Rudeus' MK I, He didn't get taught by Orsted. He NEVER CONTROLLED time, the world would eventually delete him even if he succeeded. He didn't studied blood magic, NOTHING SAID HE LEARNED God and Imperial level magic. NOTHING SAID HE DESTROYED KINGDOMS.
Old Rudeus has the power of 10 MILLION BABIES!!
no way eris was as strong as rudy at the time of the 2nd fight vs orsted. Rudi literally made the strongest man on the world use all of his magic power and damaged him a lot in melee fight, whilst eris just held back a severely wounded swordsman with no magic left at all.
Youre overestimating him. It was a low diff fight the moment he knew he wasn't up against a normal opponent and was aware of Rudis' location.
The large-scale spells at the beginning drained maybe 25% of his mana at a push to defend, and then he perhaps needed another 10% for the god sword. All in all, it really wasn't that draining capacity wise.
The kicker is that he needs to be at close to full capacity to stand a chance against hitogami, and his magic comes back thousands of times slower. Considering the strong opponents he was conserving energy for if required, like laplace, this battle was a massive strategic loss. It was a great show of how strength isn't the only factor on who wins a battle.
For context, he was probably still recovering mana from the rudi fight, even by the end of rudis story.
Besides that though, I agree. Eris was strong but only about 45% as strong as mk armour rudeus.
@@metronome7799exactly. Rudy made orsted bleed and use alot of magic(it was mid diff fight or slightly lower) while eris would lose in a single or 2 blow from orsted
he was literally crawling on the floor using his teeth vs orsted in the second fight. To be fair orsted was really just watching Eris although she countered his moves where as Rudeus straigh up failed a surprise attack.
@@Xxxxxxxxxxzzzsasff bro did not read the novel.
Eris had a 1 in 4 chance to even be able to counter orsted's Longsword of light.
Rudy damaged Orsted more overall, but Eris would straight up die in an instant if she tried to pull up with a Longsword of light carelesly, Orsted is at the divine water god level
This comparison is really bad. First, we don't get shown how strong each one of them is compared to the other at roughly the same time, but rather when they themselves reach certain milestones. Why would you compare an infant Rudy to an Eris on her anime debut. That's foolish in any sense of the word. The video should've compared their Levels, during certain points in time, for example in Rikarisu, Windport, Beast Forest, Millis, Shirone, Orsted fight etc. But it's just confusing this way.
The thing the pushed me over the edge was their combatative strength level at the Orsted rematch. Yes, Eris has grown very very strong, but she is nowhere near Rudeus at that point. Rudeus in his Magic Armor Mk. 1 forced Orsted to draw his blade and made him go all out, otherwise he would've not been able to end the fight, with some mana left in him. The guy didn't even think about drawing his sword against the Water God Reida, and Eris wasn't even able to defeat Reida's pupil Isolte, much less Reida herself. The only reason Eris even got a hit on Orsted was because the latter held back massively. He didn't use the real Sword of Light, just a rather fast swing, since he was anticipating Eris to be on a similar level to the Eris he met in previous loops. That version of Eris never reached the rank of Sword King and wasn't ever able to counter a real Sword of Light. Thinking that Eris (Boreas) Greyrat was still a needed figure for Ariel to ascend the throne of Asura, Orsted probably just used a attack that would render the previous Eris out of the fight, but not on death's door and after that he would've probably just finished Rudeus.
Eris never in her life surpassed the capabilities of Rudeus in his M-A Mk. 1. Change my mind
100% true, i just think than away from orsted, Rudy win on mk-1 to anyone
If I remember correctly in vol 16-17 it is said that Rudeus with his MK1 usually trains with Eris, and most of the time he lost and if I'm not mistaken I think he could never beat her.
At close range Rudeus max probably rivals a king rank; Rudeus gave him a good fight because he took much distance, when Orsted shortened the distance he left him half dead with 1 hit
@Josue Bardales Vol 16 and 17 Cover the Asura Kingdom Arc, and since the MK 1 got completely destroyed in Vol 15, it's highly unlikely that your take is correct. I remember a training session between Eris and Rudy in those volumes where they had 10 mock battles and Rudeus lost every of those duels apart from the one, where he managed to block Eris' swing with his Prosthesis. He managed to kill a God with the MK 1 later in the story. At close range at that. There's no way Eris can take him on in that. She only wins cause Rudy would never use magic against her, which could seriously hurt her.
@@layedbackObserver6504 If you mean Alexander Rybak, you forget that Rudeus won when Alexander was without an arm and after Alexander having fought solo vs 4 or 5 I don't remember well.
And if you mean Badigadi with the armor, it was because he had already fought for days doing a 1 v 6-9
I still believe that maybe Rudeus can win a King at the end of novels but an Emperor maybe very hard.
That's not bad, that's balancing the character and that a mage can't solo a swordsman focused on short-range combat
@Josue Bardales the people that Kalman III fought were Eris, Rudeus, and Ruijerd, weren't they ? Due to the King Dragon Gravity Sword, neither Eris nor Ruijerd managed to get close to him to inflict damage. It was then that the former North God, Kalman II, stepped in to fight him but got taken out after a short while. Barely enough time for Rudeus to get the MK 1 and return to the battlefield. Kalman III might have fought against multiple people, but he only lost some mana. The injuries he suffered were so minor that his immortal body managed to heal them. Don't forget that Rudeus only just managed to return from the earth wyrm cavern, he was thrown into by Gal Farion earlier. All in all, both parties were weakened by the time they fought their duel, which Rudy won at close range by the way.
Old Rudeus 20000000++ million, he was one of the strongest character in this time line.
Насколько он силен никто не знает, но известно то что он убил немало носителей титула "короли"
Orsted was stronger
@@ВолодимирКвачук Thts true
Ain't Eris only a confirmed Sword King by end of noval so I don't see her beating even Teen Rudeus
Na, she became Sword king around the 15 to 17 volume, before they got married.
@@FoxFox-fx3oe I meant confirmed she never becomes confirmed emperor are god
@@chrisdogg1403 She is on par with sword emperor, confirmed by the author.
She didn't take the trial on becoming a Sword Emperor but her power is already at that level.
she didn't become sword emperer couse she would need to kill ghislaine
she would be the best sword emperor, she would not beat the sword god (jino), but she beat sword god (gal) - ruijierd shielded her from his attack once, but gal feared that she is better than him, so he used water sword god technic and still lose (she would also die if ruijierd didn't shield her), she alfo cut off kalman 3 arm (north god) - he was distracted, but also was using the dragon king sword (cursed and op broken sword so this does not count couse even kalman 2 couldn't beat his son but said that he is superior in technic) and she was only person confirmed to cut off a limb of orsted in a fair fight (he was injired by rudy but he healed in less than 1 sec so xd)
we know that she is better than water god and superior to kalman 3rd in a fair fight, so sword ranking would looks like:
orsted > jino > eris > kalman 3 > reida
Being saint level and knowing a saint level skill are two different things. Rudeus was saint level at 5 years old bc he knew the skill colonimbus but he was still not strong enough to beat intermediate level guys at during episode 5. These ranking aren’t horrible but just wanted to clarify the basis behind certain scalings
bro slept so hard on oldeus
Oldeus is weaker than Rudeus.
@@thatunknownguy292no he isn't lol. If it wasn't for the mk0 he stands no chance
@@MauricioRuffy Rifujin literally said Oldeus was just 10-20% more than Rudeus at best🤣, Rifujin also said that Oldeus with MK 0 couldn't even beat Kalman III.
If u know eris is a quasi swordgod shes next in line to jino when it comes to swordskills
spoiler for redundancy
jino kicked her ass 😭😭😭😭😭
pretty sure oldeus is stronger than current time rudeus. Mans dedicated his entire life for revenge
Ofc everyone knows that and Is so sad he Is actually the original rudeus
@@1.Rizztachi bro's story was so fucking sad man 😔 bro became a monster after what happened to his loved ones
They done did oldeus dirty,we all know that’s cap
Oldeus is weaker than Rudeus.
The last part on old rudeus it's just stupid 😐
time travel magic and other undiscovered magic: 🗿
Considering that he was heavily injured when he appeared it makes sense lol
@@doctorfreeman08 His gravity magic can only move objects, and his electricity wouldn't help in a battle with god-tier fighters because they would just block it, He didn't master voice magic, he was at the brink of death after performing the time travel. His magic armor is weaker than current Rudeus.
Conclusion:
Oldeus with armor Oldeus solid top 9, still wouldn't win against, Perugius, North God, Sword God, Water God, and Atofe Ratofe. Might be able to win against Death God.
No armor: Oldeus> Rudeus.
With armor: Rudeus> Oldeus.
@@thatunknownguy292Опять же Олдеус в новелле говорил что он может убить Перигиуса, но причина почему не убил заключается в том что он был единственным собеседником с которым можно разговаривать о прошлом...
@@thatunknownguy292С Atofe Ratofe тоже самое. В новелле говорилось что он просто раслабился и недооценил Мура. Мур - сильный маг. А так думаю здесь он просто раслабился из за бесчисленных битв в которым он убивал всех кто вставал на его пути. Или просто на это повлиял Хотогами....
Oldeus > почти весь верс ,можно все видео ставить под сомнения из за этого момента.
Rudy with MK0 negs almost every swordman, and even without it, he`s still stronger than Eris. Btw Oldeus IS stronger than current rudy
Losing your v card at kids and coming back with more upgrades
POR FIN ALGUIEN QUE NO SOBRE VALORA AL VIEJO RUDEUS, BASADO
Interesting
id like to see 8-10 year old eris take an intermediate spell head one and stay conscious
that shit blew up half a house
at this point eris is just an aggressive child. Even with rudeus needing to concentrate to cast still, 3 year old rudeus no diffs eris pre/tp all
Sadly eris died at 70 during her daily routine running
Yo esperando que sea 2 de abril 😊
Is there some explanation about those numbers? How they appeared? Is this magic+sword skill+ brain? Seen video like this but can't understand where we take this numbers
In this type of videos they always just wing it and put random numbers however they want
@@quitw18 Lol. Thank you)))
OLD rudeus a 10 M AHAHAHAHAHAHH, my boy clapped emperor and king enemy on a dayli basis and obtain countless magic like gravity and time travel ahahahhaha
author CONFIRMED he's just Lower Great Power's rank. His MK is worse than Rudeus' MK I, He didn't get taught by Orsted. EVEN THE SUPPOSED STRONGEST MAGIC USER COULDN't EVEN MOVE A HUMAN, and you started making bullshit about him? He NEVER CONTROLLED time, the world would eventually delete him even if he succeeded. He didn't studied blood magic, NOTHING SAID HE LEARNED God and Imperial level magic. NOTHING SAID HE DESTROYED KINGDOMS.
Thanks for spoiler
BRUH Old Rudeus was basically obseessed with magic an becoming stronger and you actually ranked him lower than his younger self? You trippin' blud, like on hardcore drugs or something.
old rudeus was wiping kingdoms off the map bruh💀💀 this youtuber is Straight up wrong
@@Leokun. 26 years old rudeus can literaly throw nuke, we can only guess how much more powerfull old rudeus is
O problema é que, alguns anos depois, o rudeus da um salto de poder de 10.000.000 ante os 2.100. 000 da eris.... É aí....??? Como se explica????
why tf does eris's power triple between the orsted fight and her arrival at the holy land of swords?
we can see how short her hair is. 2 months at absolute most passed
Eris has been high end advanced rank for awhile now, and since she caught 2 low end saints off guard she was given the saint rank title
but she can't perform the long sword of light so obviously she is significantly weaker than a saint rank if she is using sword god style conventions.
I swear just using north god style bumps you up like a rank and a half who tf decided that sword god style is the strongest.
Sources: "Believe me"
I haven't read the LN but how did Eris become stronger than Rudeus (at least for a period of time)? Did she get obsessed with training or something?
Yep
Yes, she trained so much and also that Swordman are really OP, they can win in most battle scenarios against a mage at the same level. A Saint mage will loose almost all the time against a Saint Swordman, the only way is that the mage has the long distance free and the swordman was baited, because the use of touki give much advantage. And for Rudeus, he is one of the few people in that world that can't use touki, even mages can use touki to some degree (far inferior than swordmans but still) so he becoming that strong without being able to use touki at all is amazing (Later he get something "similar" but even before that Rudeus could beat swordmen in the same level as him in much more scenarios than any other mage).
@@wehreoc360nos i read the ln and you cant compare rudeus as usual saint level mage vs saint level swordsman cuz he can use voiceless incantation, the incantation is the greatest factor why same level mage loses to swordsman. Rudeus also has the demon eye even on close range I think he has no problem putting a space between them using voiceless magic instantly. So i think if they fought seriously to death at any timeline rudeus would win 99%
@@atkinsoncheng3323 with armor yes. But without armor in his usual state, he cannot tank any blows and his body cannot move fast enough to evade blows from touki enhanced swordsmen even if he has the demon eye. And remember, the demon eye will show different possibilities of attack if the attacker has multiple routes they can take, and rendering it not all that useful in a high level fight.
she always is in close combat but all around she would stand no chance againt 25% rudeus fully equiped
You forgot their strength level in bed....
The only way I can think of that oldeus in this list could make sense is if this is his effective power after the backlash of the time travel. He was missing several organs and most likely no mana and still 10mil. I'd say maybe least 19 mil even in that state though.
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Old rudeus is probably one of the strongest charecter if not the strongest
Oldeus is low great power rank, author confirmed, he's just a bullshit guy, imagine not being able to defeat Atofe.
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In the NW Rudeus with the MK-Zero practically defeated Badigadi and that would put him above or equal to the dragon gods
Incrível 👏👏🙂
How is Quagmire Rudeus stronger than Eris who did nothing but train all day for years? Makes no sense
rudeus is reincarnated person + genius + he knows how eris move in mock battle so he can sometimes win in sword fight without magic(18years old rudy)
@@Yoshida.Kobayashi makes no sense still, eris trained without rudy
@@Emerardo make no sense? haven't you read novels?
@@Yoshida.Kobayashi Yes I have. If we assume Rudy and Eris were approximately equals during Turning Point II then there is no way Rudeus could be stronger than Eris before going to school considering in the years before they reunited Eris did nothing but train whereas Rudeus only did missions which were relatively easy for him.
The only way you could argue Eris was weaker is if you think Rudeus suddenly had a growth in strength during this time but there is no evidence to support that.
@@Emerardo rudeus from age 5 to 15 is still the same in power so there's no growth in magic he just trained his body after depression arc. rudy only want to protect his family but in reality he doesn't care about who's stronger
rudeus only managed to overcome eris after acquiring demon eyes
But he doesn't even beat the old Rudeus, without having to use his eyes he would win.
Bro in the novel Eris became a North saint level after training for a year with auber
You have to realize that Eris is the absolute strongest in the Greyrat family, If Rudeus got a fully connected blow without his armour, it would be instant death. But Eris takes a few blows (if I remember correctly) and still gets up to fight.
Old Rudeus was stronger than any person except Orsted or God of Death. However , we don’t have enough information about his power 🤷🏻
Your power level rating completely Beas 😔😔
Bias* but ur right
the old rudeus 10 million?? WTF, did you read the novel correctly? XDDDDDDDDDDD
what do you mean?
@@h33LingZ the old rudeus from another alternative time was so bloodthirsty that he had to learn all kinds of magic, he tried harder than the rudeus of the present, he had a strong desire for revenge for what hitogami did, he tried to the point of be the strongest of all the 7 great powers, but in the old rudeus he did not beat orsted but the other 7 great powers did without problems, he even knows how to manipulate gravity that in the world of mushoku that manipulating gravity if it is too much powerful, the old rudeus was looking for orsted to form an alliance, but could not find him since orsted reached his cycle.
@@h33LingZ By the way, I forgot that old Rudeus knew how to manipulate space and time.
@@eliasrodriguez6967 Stop bluffing, his gravity magic can only move objects, and his electricity wouldn't help in a battle with god-tier fighters because they would just block it, He didn't master voice magic, he was on the brink of death after performing the time travel. His magic armor is weaker than current Rudeus.
Conclusion:
Oldeus with armor Oldeus solid top 9, still wouldn't win against, Perugius, North God, Sword God, Water God, and Atofe Ratofe. Might be able to win against Death God.
No armor: Oldeus> Rudeus.
With armor: Rudeus> Oldeus.
Rudeus is stronger overall, but without his magic armor, he is basically helpless against eris in close combat.
That's the case basically since the moment she became sword king and to the end actualy.
Only with the advantage of distance does rudeus stand a chance against her in practicality.
Old rudeus high god level 100%
Eris is my best girl, I'm really gonna miss her at the 2nd season 😭😭😭
What happened to her
@@averagesocialcreditcollect3439 well she just leave rudy
@@averagesocialcreditcollect3439 significantly less screen time for her on season 2. second season will focus more on sylphy and rudy.
@@foxtrot8858 i am hoping for atleast an episode showing Eris clapping the 2 Saint rank swordsmen and then the training in the Sword land of Swords.
@@foxtrot8858 silphy annoying af useless as shit 2
5:21, it's been good, gn!
The last info was incorrect. If old rudes from the first time actually had a battle with eris, eris would have been defeated in a single blow💀
Trust me rudes from the first timeline is much more dangerous than he looks like...
L'écart entre les 2 esr clairement bcp plus grand
BRO CHILL OLD RUDEUS 💀 >>>> ERIS and ORSTED
Are you smoking something???
this became ass when you said that mk armor vs orsted was equal to eris vs orsted also that form of rudy > almost any other form of him ngl
Bro is eris really that powerful or y’all just projecting ur horniness of her as power level increase?
All of this is cap lol
She is, she beat the hell out of Oldeus who was wearing Magic Armor.
Oye oye oye......I know he was weak , but it was coz of Injuries.....All the previous comparisons were at full health.....Ma man's basically at deaths door........Not a fair comparison (He still damn even when weakened☠️)
underrated rudeus
Bruh old rudeus was broken..the only time we saw him was when he was damn near death alteady due to him committing suicide to go back in time to warn his younger self but before he time jumped, he was one of the strongest people in his timeline. He went around killing demon kings, members of the seven great powers etc. He was so broken freaken man god destroyed all ways that would allow oldeus to enter his realm because he feared rudeus was capable of killing him.
U mean Zanoba right? Not Zariff
guys, where can i read manga after 100 chapter? there are so much happening but i dont know where you all get it from
Rudeus is stronger in magic and Eris is stronger in swordsmanship, but if you take LN, then Rudeus is the god of magic, and you don’t need to tell me about the speed of Eris
Can anyone tell me how often a new episode comes out?
И снова цыфры взятые из воздуха
A. you didn’t include rudeus with MK armour
B. Oldues was much stronger than rudeus (without mk armour)
C. Eris was never god level, if I’m correct she at best got to king level
She’s becomes emperor level🤦🏽♂️ could even argue low god level
@@thatboytae2 put her against any of the gods, she loses if they are in their prime. Yes my fault, she is an emperor level, the difference between emperor and god is immense, it could take centuries to go up a rank. It’s like comparing mountain level, to continent level
Who made this guy cook You sure he didnt cook his eye sockets aswell?
You forgot to label him when he's using his final armor 2 and I think 3
Imposible, you cant compair MK1 Rudeus with any Eris XD
It is impossible for Iris to be stronger than Rudeus. Even if he did not seek to develop his fighting skills, he would still be stronger than her
no puede ser que me quede viendo el este video asta el final xd
Rudeus vs orsted was WAY stronger that eris, she did hit him with a one shot atack desingend 100% to hit orsted, and she dont do even the 10% of damage that rudeus already did to him.
Wasn't oldius stronger then main timeline?
Where mk 0?!?!?!?
I know it's your opinion but it's wrong haha.
Oldeus is the strongest human we know of. Oldeus could beat Gal Farion, Jino and even Death God, he should have to be over Eris by far (since he beat her multiple times) and only below Rudeus with MK-0.
Now, you underestimated Rudeus with arms way too much. Rudeus with MK-I weaker than Eris when both fought Orsted? Bro, Orsted had to use his Godsword to beat the armor, he beat Eris barehanded. Rudeus with MK-I is only below Rudeus with MK-0 who is the strongest since he beat the Fighting God with it...
Still, this was a nice watch don't take me wrong haha
Lmao, let's just forget Saint Millis, Ars, Al Farion, Reidar, these guys could easily defeat Rudeus and Oldeus at any given distance.
His gravity magic can only move objects, and his electricity wouldn't help in a battle with god-tier fighters because they would just block it, He didn't master voice magic, he was on the brink of death after performing the time travel. His magic armor is weaker than current Rudeus.
Conclusion:
Oldeus with armor Oldeus solid top 9, still wouldn't win against, Perugius, North God, Sword God, Water God, and Atofe Ratofe. Might be able to win against Death God.
No armor: Oldeus> Rudeus.
With armor: Rudeus> Oldeus.
Eris - becomes sword king
Also Eris - low god level
Like how she a low god level when she is a sword king like wat?
Wow. Very Dragonball. Such inflation.
Far from dragon ball. Db got those billions multipliers forms over billions points strong base lol
aint no way eris is ever on the same lvl as rudeus
Shes not this vid is just a troll
Eris is stronger in manga
copium@@FlyAchX
@@FlyAchX manga💀that's why she couldn't even do shit against orsted and in thr LN redeus doesn't train and still is stronger than her we don't want to talk about old redeus
@@titochacha5911 Is that why Rudeus, from a convenient distance and in armor, could only leave scratches and dents on Orsted's body, while Eris cut off his hand?Lol
Rudeus with the magic armor clean the floor with eris
His strong with that armor is just stupid
Source: Dude, trust me.
nah nah nah, old rudeus is like orsted foh sure
My man is disrespecting old rudeus a bit xD.
i dont think that the old rudeus deserve 10 million ...
Oldeus is 1000000x times stronger than normal Rudi.
Rudues in mk 0 gotta be way higher. Alarmist defeated badigadi in fighting god armour. Surely he would be 5th ranked in mk0
de donde sacas esos valores ?
It doesn't even make sense to these levels, it seems that you have not read the novel.
OLD RUDEUS 10 mi(dying) .... before time travel....high god level ( w/ power to kill hitogami)
How do you calculate this?
made it up for views thats how lol
Oldeus at number 5?
Are you kidding me?
Mfers magical abilities was superior to rudeus. His healing magic was so advanced it could regenerate limbs, he was a master of gravity magic and developed time travel magic. Wtf?
Who let this guy cook?
when would they meet again😮😮😢
Whats the use of mc if he is not even stronger then the side character
then how would old eris be? i pers think weaker obv