Not sure what all this fasting is about? First, talk with your spiritual father or parish priest and ask for guidance. Additionally, read the wealth of resources on the meaning of fasting from a variety of authors here: orthodoxinfo.com/praxis/pr_fasting.aspx This podcast is a reading from "Exomologetarion: A Manual of Confession" by St. Nikodemos the Hagiorite, pp. 209-212 -BUY "Exomologetarion: A Manual of Confession" by St. Nikodemos the Hagiorite, published by Uncut Mountain Press: uncutmountainpress.com/shop/product/exomologetarion-a-manual-of-confession/ -FIND an Orthodox parish and monastery near you: orthodoxyinamerica.org/
I’ve found the more I take the weekly fast seriously, the less of a jarring switch it becomes when I enter into a fasting period. The weekly fast kind of makes you feel like you’ve been doing it already. When I took it less seriously, broke more rules etc; I dreaded the fasting periods. Now I actually look forward to them. I think one of the helpful things people don’t talk about is the fact that the fasts are a spiritual weapon against the demons, the not eating of certain foods is just a part of what’s supposed to be taking place.
I'm not Orthodox yet, but have been changing my life towards Orthodoxy. I have started fasting Wednesdays and Fridays for Jesus, and do feel closer during those days, and feel like I have done something wrong when I do eat.. God bless.
Glory to God. To be clear, the standard for fasting on Wednesday and Friday does not mean we entirely avoid food. It means we limit our quantity, number of times we eat, and foods we eat. Some who are prepared can go beyond this standard. See the video description for a link to the general rules for fasting through the year. Also, do you have a parish and priest to talk with? It’s essential for an Orthodox spiritual life.
I saw this on wikipedia: Do you reprove them in the sight of God ? "Hermits were frequently seen to break a long fast when hosting visitors, as hospitality and kindness were more important than keeping the ascetic practices that were so dominant in the Desert Fathers' lives."
They broke their personal fast, which was more intense than the minimum, not the basic standard of the fast which normative for the entire Church. We should all follow our spiritual father’s guidance and we should not take the desert father’s example to mean something it doesn’t.
@@OrthodoxWisdom Charity is above temperance and hospitality above fasting. They broke the fast to honour their hosts or their guests, some later did stricter personal penances as a consequence (though not all). Haven't you read of a Desert father drinking wine thrice on a Friday when invited to do so ? As a Desert father said, if you become proud to keep a fast, then it is better to break it. If you value the observance of a fast to the point of not honouring your neighbour, you place pride above charity.
My priest permits me to eat meat on Wednesday and Fridays at dinnertime, because I eat lowcarb for health reasons. I just go the whole day without eating anything and then have one big meal at dinner. To me it's even more spiritually strengthening to go all day with an empty stomach than a stomach full of rice and beans.
This is a good example of why we should all know the teachings of the fathers and not judge our neighbor for what is on (or off) their plate, trusting our own spiritual father’s guidance and continuing to try and go deeper in our obedience to Christ.
Obedience to your priest is the best practice. Rather than assume a fasting discipline of your own, you went to your priest and obtained his blessing to do this, good on you.
If you're following Byzantine time than dinner time on a Wednesday or Friday night would technically be after vespers and that would be the liturgical beginning of Thursday and Saturday thus those are days that are typically less stringent in terms of fasting.
I'm in the same boat brother, my fragile modern constitution was not made for grains and legumes. I made myself very ill trying to stick to the fasts as written, it was a major stumbling block for me when first coming to Orthodoxy.
I didn’t know that the fast was until dinner time and that you aren’t supposed to eat shell fish I asked my priest and he said I can have a protein shake throughout the day and fruit I need it to keep my diet for sports
What's So Hard About Fasting On Wednesday and Friday ? The Lord Jesus Christ Did It . The Apostolic Fathers Did It. The Saints Did It. Therefore, With The Power of The Holy Spirit , I Can, I Do, and I Will Fast On Wednesday and Friday As Required By My One, Holy, Eastern Orthodox Catholic and Apostolic Antiochian Orthodox Christian ☦️ Faith. AMEN 🙏 ‼️
Thank you for sharing this. Could not have come at a better time as this is the first week that I (inquirer soon to be catechumen) am tacking the biweekly fast. Any Orthodox out there that work the overnight/graveyard shift? How do you approach the fasting rule? Personally speaking, it almost feels like cheating the system when you wake up at 6pm and are asleep by 9/10am the following morning.
Glory to God. Have you been able to ask your spiritual father or parish priest about this? Best to ask these kind of questions to an experienced spiritual guide who knows you.
I am orthadox and work rotating shifts 2 days 2 nights I fail at the fast constantly and am so weak I have only been fasting from meat so far. But I treat it from the whole day so midnight to midnight . wensday and Friday But yes speak to your preist who knows you and your circumstances better
When I was in a monastery the general practice was to fast from vespers to vespers, meaning that what would be Tuesday and Thursday night on the civil calendar would be in liturgical terms Wednesday and Friday and you would fast overnight until vespers the following day. So on a civil calendar Wednesday and Thursday night the same fasting restrictions would not apply except in a fasting season. Check with your Parish priest and/or spiritual father for further instruction.
I got permission of my priest to use protestant drinks because I work out at thd gym and trying to lose weight but I understand the the importance of fasting
I’m in a similar boat. I’m working out in the gym, except I’m trying to gain, rather than lose weight (I’m a skinny guy). Vegan protein powder is very useful. I put some in a big cup and stir it with water. I avoid soy for health reasons, but pea and brown rice protein is great. A lot of it (not all) contains some kind of oil, so those would only be for those fast days where oil is permitted. But if you’re to deviate from the strict fast to consume these drinks, it’s better to go for the ones with oil than the ones that are milk-based (whey). After all, there are vegan natural bodybuilders out there who attain their physique without ever eating meat or dairy, it’s certainly possible for us (who don’t eat meat or dairy only half the year). On an unrelated note, if you’re trying to lose weight or simply have digestive issues (as I do) I highly recommend psyllium husk (fiber supplement). It has no oil so it’s good for the strict fast days. It can give your stomach a feeling of fullness with barely any calories.
Monastics fast on mondays but lay people are not required to. With a blessing, laity can fast on mondays but it is not a required minimum like the Wednesday and Friday fasts.
It is a weekly thing except for some weeks there are exceptions. You read in the didache which is a book of the teachings of the 12 they instructed to fast these days.
What time did you start the fast the day before? Typically people either started at 3:00 p.m. or 6:00 p.m. and that is when it would end the following day
Very few things like this an entire parish will do. Talk to your spiritual father, and if you dont have one yet, talk to your parish priest or another priest with much experience to guide you.
Some people are blessed to do more fasting than others. What’s important is that we fast out of obedience to Christ and our spiritual father, and according to our strength.
That’s a good question for your spiritual father. Sometimes the spiritual father will not bless zealous asceticism because they know it will lead to pride and burn out. The royal path is what we are after.
Of course ask your spiritual father, but I would assume it’s fine. In Eastern Europe and the Balkans, fermented and picked vegetables (or recipes containing them) are very popular during the fast. Sauerkraut, pickles, troshi, dolma (sarmi), etc. These foods are full of probiotic bacteria. I imagine therefore that a probiotic supplement (as long as it doesn’t contain meat, dairy, eggs, or oil) is perfectly fine.
So we as orthodox should not eat anything from the moment we wake up, until 3 p.m (or 15 by European clock)? And after 3 p m we can eat whatever? I was thought it was basically a “vegan” fast. A Daniel fast.
In terms of what foods we eat, we still eat according the daily calendar, which means most wednesdays and Fridays are no meat, dairy, wine, or oil. Please consult a 2024 liturgical calendar from your diocese
He taught this to the Apostles and He has continued to guide the Church since, leading the Church “into all truth.” The witness of the saints, those purified and illumines by Christ, confirms and exhibits the teachings in this video.
It is written in the Apostolic Constitutions "One must fast during Holy Week and Wednesday and Friday."[18] But why should I say that this regulation is only of the Apostles? It is a regulation of Christ Himself, for this is what the Apostles say in Book V, ch. 14 of the Constitutions: "He (that is, Christ) commanded us to fast on Wednesday and Friday."[19] We therefore fast on these days according to the Holy Hieromartyr Peter (Canon 15): "On Wednesday because on this day the council of the Jews was gathered to betray our Lord; on Friday because on this day He suffered death for our salvation." The divine Jerome says the same thing. Also Christ speaking here: Mark Chapter 2:19-20 19And Jesus said to them, “Can the friends of the bridegroom fast while the bridegroom is with them? As long as they have the bridegroom with them they cannot fast. 20But the days will come when the bridegroom will be taken away from them, and then they will fast in those days.
Wow.. Unintentional but if you hit the hyperlink above after "Mark Chapter" "2:19" in the video, it goes directly to the narrator saying "fast Wednesday and Friday" 0.0 Not saying it's the Lord... Buuuut... xD
Great video! I do wish that Orthodoxy didn't approve of the eating of unclean meat though. I personally follow the Levitical guidelines and people get so mad when they find out! You'd think I personally offended them by choosing to follow one of God's commands. It's so frustrating that a person can get support in avoiding whatever foods they want except when it comes to unclean meats. I think it's a sign of guilt in those who get mad about it personally
“The next day, as they went on their journey and drew near the city, Peter went up on the housetop to pray, about the sixth hour. Then he became very hungry and wanted to eat; but while they made ready, he fell into a trance and saw heaven opened and an object like a great sheet bound at the four corners, descending to him and let down to the earth. In it were all kinds of four-footed animals of the earth, wild beasts, creeping things, and birds of the air. And a voice came to him, “Rise, Peter; kill and eat.” But Peter said, “Not so, Lord! For I have never eaten anything common or unclean.” And a voice spoke to him again the second time, “What God has cleansed you must not call common.” This was done three times. And the object was taken up into heaven again.” Acts 10:9-16 The commandment of eating kosher was made obsolete and is only followed by Jews today. Please do not use your personal kosher diet to judge others and make them feel guilty.
@@M.C.M.C.I was looking for clarification on this, thanks. I recently set out to read the bible in its entirety, but I'm only as far as Deuteronomy right now, so I was wondering about kosher food and Christianity.
@@M.C.M.C. Now the apostles and brethren who were in Judea heard that the Gentiles had also received the word of God. And when Peter came up to Jerusalem, those of the circumcision contended with him, saying, “You went in to uncircumcised men and ate with them!” But Peter explained it to them in order from the beginning, saying: “I was in the city of Joppa praying; and in a trance I saw a vision, an object descending like a great sheet, let down from heaven by four corners; and it came to me. When I observed it intently and considered, I saw four-footed animals of the earth, wild beasts, creeping things, and birds of the air. And I heard a voice saying to me, ‘Rise, Peter; kill and eat.’ But I said, ‘Not so, Lord! For nothing common or unclean has at any time entered my mouth.’ But the voice answered me again from heaven, ‘What God has cleansed you must not call common.’ Now this was done three times, and all were drawn up again into heaven. At that very moment, three men stood before the house where I was, having been sent to me from Caesarea. Then the Spirit told me to go with them, doubting nothing. Moreover these six brethren accompanied me, and we entered the man’s house. And he told us how he had seen an angel standing in his house, who said to him, ‘Send men to Joppa, and call for Simon whose surname is Peter, who will tell you words by which you and all your household will be saved.’ And as I began to speak, the Holy Spirit fell upon them, as upon us at the beginning. Then I remembered the word of the Lord, how He said, ‘John indeed baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit.’ If therefore God gave them the same gift as He gave us when we believed on the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I that I could withstand God?” When they heard these things they became silent; and they glorified God, saying, “Then God has also granted to the Gentiles repentance to life.” Acts 11:1-18 Please keep reading your bible because you didn't get to the explanation for his vision. It was about sharing a table with gentiles, which Talmudic law declared was forbidden. Nice try though, you proved my point exactly. 😆
@@atlasdm Keep reading. Nice try, but you’re objectively wrong. Please do not try to teach a Judaized Christianity to the people around you. Sorry. First, the Talmud wasn’t even finished until the 6th century AD. It began to be written in the 1st century to 3rd century AD. The Talmud was written by Jewish rabbis in order to refute the teachings of Christianity and to differentiate themselves from Christians by undergoing reforms. What I hope is what you wish to refer to is the Torah, the Law of Moses, not the Talmud. If you’re going to tell people to study, please do your own studying first. In the vision given to Peter, God commands him to kill and eat the unclean animals. Why would He do this if He didn’t mean it? That would just cause confusion. Moreover, the uncircumcised Gentiles that Peter ate with did not follow the law. They believed in Jesus, but were not under the Jewish Law of Moses, clearly since they are uncircumcised. Uncircumcision is punishable by exile under the Jewish law, “And the uncircumcised male child, who is not circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin, that person shall be cut off from his people; he has broken My covenant.” Genesis 17:14 It is extremely likely that Peter ate unclean meat that day. Later in the Book of Acts, the Apostles made a decree to the Churches, “Then it pleased the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas, namely, Judas who was also named Barsabas, and Silas, leading men among the brethren. They wrote this letter by them: The apostles, the elders, and the brethren, To the brethren who are of the Gentiles in Antioch, Syria, and Cilicia: Greetings. Since we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, “You must be circumcised and keep the law” -to whom we gave no such commandment- it seemed good to us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who will also report the same things by word of mouth. For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.” Acts 15:22-29 Do notice that abstaining from pork and shellfish is not listed, only blood, food sacrificed to animals, and the meat of animals strangled inhumanely. This message was confirmed as good and correct teaching by the Holy Spirit. Even Jesus said, “Not what goes into the mouth defiles a man; but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man.” Matthew 15:11 Jesus also gave His Apostles the authority to interpret Scripture and to even forgive sins, something that only God could do, “And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” Matthew 16:19 “So Jesus said to them again, “Peace to you! As the Father has sent Me, I also send you.” And when He had said this, He breathed on them, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.” John 20:21-23 “Why does this Man speak blasphemies like this? Who can forgive sins but God alone?” Mark 2:7 In conclusion, the Apostles and their successors, the Church Fathers, asserted that the Jewish kosher laws are not to be followed by Christians as shown by how only a tiny percentage of schismatic groups follow the Jewish dietary restrictions. About making others feel guilty about their food consumption, Paul says, “Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things. For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats only vegetables. Let not him who eats despise him who does not eat, and let not him who does not eat judge him who eats; for God has received him.” Romans 14:1-3 I think fasting from traditionally non-kosher foods is a good personal decision if you have made it with fasting in mind; however, if you say in your heart that those who do not follow the Jewish law should be ashamed, you are prideful and your fast is made invalid. Nice try, though. I would recommend reading the Epistle to the Romans or to the Galatians for further information. “Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage. Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing. And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law. You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace. For we through the Spirit eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but faith working through love. You ran well. Who hindered you from obeying the truth? This persuasion does not come from Him who calls you. A little leaven leavens the whole lump.” Galatians 5:1-9
@babycricket9649 yes. But again the idea is to limit the amount of the food and the emphasis on food and offer everything we have to Christ in love. We keep the rule and transcend the rule at the same time.
Not sure what all this fasting is about? First, talk with your spiritual father or parish priest and ask for guidance. Additionally, read the wealth of resources on the meaning of fasting from a variety of authors here: orthodoxinfo.com/praxis/pr_fasting.aspx
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I’ve found the more I take the weekly fast seriously, the less of a jarring switch it becomes when I enter into a fasting period. The weekly fast kind of makes you feel like you’ve been doing it already.
When I took it less seriously, broke more rules etc; I dreaded the fasting periods. Now I actually look forward to them.
I think one of the helpful things people don’t talk about is the fact that the fasts are a spiritual weapon against the demons, the not eating of certain foods is just a part of what’s supposed to be taking place.
so true I look forward to the fast now its weird I use to stress and dred it now I'm like cool
I'm not Orthodox yet, but have been changing my life towards Orthodoxy. I have started fasting Wednesdays and Fridays for Jesus, and do feel closer during those days, and feel like I have done something wrong when I do eat.. God bless.
Glory to God. To be clear, the standard for fasting on Wednesday and Friday does not mean we entirely avoid food. It means we limit our quantity, number of times we eat, and foods we eat. Some who are prepared can go beyond this standard. See the video description for a link to the general rules for fasting through the year. Also, do you have a parish and priest to talk with? It’s essential for an Orthodox spiritual life.
I saw this on wikipedia: Do you reprove them in the sight of God ?
"Hermits were frequently seen to break a long fast when hosting visitors, as hospitality and kindness were more important than keeping the ascetic practices that were so dominant in the Desert Fathers' lives."
They broke their personal fast, which was more intense than the minimum, not the basic standard of the fast which normative for the entire Church. We should all follow our spiritual father’s guidance and we should not take the desert father’s example to mean something it doesn’t.
@@OrthodoxWisdom Charity is above temperance and hospitality above fasting. They broke the fast to honour their hosts or their guests, some later did stricter personal penances as a consequence (though not all). Haven't you read of a Desert father drinking wine thrice on a Friday when invited to do so ? As a Desert father said, if you become proud to keep a fast, then it is better to break it. If you value the observance of a fast to the point of not honouring your neighbour, you place pride above charity.
My priest permits me to eat meat on Wednesday and Fridays at dinnertime, because I eat lowcarb for health reasons. I just go the whole day without eating anything and then have one big meal at dinner. To me it's even more spiritually strengthening to go all day with an empty stomach than a stomach full of rice and beans.
This is a good example of why we should all know the teachings of the fathers and not judge our neighbor for what is on (or off) their plate, trusting our own spiritual father’s guidance and continuing to try and go deeper in our obedience to Christ.
Obedience to your priest is the best practice. Rather than assume a fasting discipline of your own, you went to your priest and obtained his blessing to do this, good on you.
If you're following Byzantine time than dinner time on a Wednesday or Friday night would technically be after vespers and that would be the liturgical beginning of Thursday and Saturday thus those are days that are typically less stringent in terms of fasting.
I'm in the same boat brother, my fragile modern constitution was not made for grains and legumes. I made myself very ill trying to stick to the fasts as written, it was a major stumbling block for me when first coming to Orthodoxy.
That's good for you but your comment sounds belittling to those of us who eat rice and beans and abstain from meat.
Great timing 😉
Thank you
I didn’t know that the fast was until dinner time and that you aren’t supposed to eat shell fish I asked my priest and he said I can have a protein shake throughout the day and fruit I need it to keep my diet for sports
What's So Hard About Fasting On Wednesday and Friday ? The Lord Jesus Christ Did It . The Apostolic Fathers Did It. The Saints Did It. Therefore, With The Power of The Holy Spirit , I Can, I Do, and I Will Fast On Wednesday and Friday As Required By My One, Holy, Eastern Orthodox Catholic and Apostolic Antiochian Orthodox Christian ☦️ Faith. AMEN 🙏 ‼️
Thank you for sharing this. Could not have come at a better time as this is the first week that I (inquirer soon to be catechumen) am tacking the biweekly fast.
Any Orthodox out there that work the overnight/graveyard shift? How do you approach the fasting rule? Personally speaking, it almost feels like cheating the system when you wake up at 6pm and are asleep by 9/10am the following morning.
Glory to God. Have you been able to ask your spiritual father or parish priest about this? Best to ask these kind of questions to an experienced spiritual guide who knows you.
I am orthadox and work rotating shifts 2 days 2 nights
I fail at the fast constantly and am so weak I have only been fasting from meat so far.
But I treat it from the whole day so midnight to midnight . wensday and Friday
But yes speak to your preist who knows you and your circumstances better
When I was in a monastery the general practice was to fast from vespers to vespers, meaning that what would be Tuesday and Thursday night on the civil calendar would be in liturgical terms Wednesday and Friday and you would fast overnight until vespers the following day. So on a civil calendar Wednesday and Thursday night the same fasting restrictions would not apply except in a fasting season. Check with your Parish priest and/or spiritual father for further instruction.
I got permission of my priest to use protestant drinks because I work out at thd gym and trying to lose weight but I understand the the importance of fasting
I’m too curious not to ask:
What are “protestant drinks”?
Did you mean protein drinks?
Zipline-cola
I'm guessing autocorrect haha, probably "protein drinks"
I’m in a similar boat. I’m working out in the gym, except I’m trying to gain, rather than lose weight (I’m a skinny guy).
Vegan protein powder is very useful. I put some in a big cup and stir it with water.
I avoid soy for health reasons, but pea and brown rice protein is great.
A lot of it (not all) contains some kind of oil, so those would only be for those fast days where oil is permitted.
But if you’re to deviate from the strict fast to consume these drinks, it’s better to go for the ones with oil than the ones that are milk-based (whey).
After all, there are vegan natural bodybuilders out there who attain their physique without ever eating meat or dairy, it’s certainly possible for us (who don’t eat meat or dairy only half the year).
On an unrelated note, if you’re trying to lose weight or simply have digestive issues (as I do) I highly recommend psyllium husk (fiber supplement).
It has no oil so it’s good for the strict fast days. It can give your stomach a feeling of fullness with barely any calories.
No scoff until 3pm then. Perfect. With God's help. Best way! For so many Orthodox it's a day of veganism nowadays?
With God's help and the blessing and guidance of our spiritual father. Please read the video description if you haven't already.
Is that what the 9th hour is? 3pm local time?
Correct
thank you @@OrthodoxWisdom 🙏
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The video says that we should be fasting on Mondays as well as Wednesdays and Fridays. It's a bit much and I don't think any church teaches this.
Monastics fast on mondays but lay people are not required to. With a blessing, laity can fast on mondays but it is not a required minimum like the Wednesday and Friday fasts.
Saint Benedict sayed to fast on wednesday and friday ?
Where he sayed that ?
Newbie here. Did the apostles actually fast on Wednesday and Fridays?
Where can I find this information? Also is this a weekly thing? Thank you
It is a weekly thing except for some weeks there are exceptions. You read in the didache which is a book of the teachings of the 12 they instructed to fast these days.
does fast end at 6pm?
then I can eat meat and other foods aswell
What time did you start the fast the day before? Typically people either started at 3:00 p.m. or 6:00 p.m. and that is when it would end the following day
I understand this all but im not the one in charge. So what do I do if my parish doesnt observe the "complete fast until 9th hour" rule?
Very few things like this an entire parish will do. Talk to your spiritual father, and if you dont have one yet, talk to your parish priest or another priest with much experience to guide you.
@OrthodoxWisdom Yeah my parish priest doesn't advocate it either so I remain unsure
Some people are blessed to do more fasting than others. What’s important is that we fast out of obedience to Christ and our spiritual father, and according to our strength.
Is not eating at all on those days an acceptable alternative on Wed. and Friday?
That’s a good question for your spiritual father. Sometimes the spiritual father will not bless zealous asceticism because they know it will lead to pride and burn out. The royal path is what we are after.
@@OrthodoxWisdom Thank you. Pardon the slow reply; youtube didn't notify me of it.
Can we take probiotics ( live bacteria ) during fasting?
That’s a great question for your spiritual father.
I do for medicinal purposes but I would also defer to my Parish pastor and/or spiritual father
Of course ask your spiritual father, but I would assume it’s fine.
In Eastern Europe and the Balkans, fermented and picked vegetables (or recipes containing them) are very popular during the fast.
Sauerkraut, pickles, troshi, dolma (sarmi), etc. These foods are full of probiotic bacteria.
I imagine therefore that a probiotic supplement (as long as it doesn’t contain meat, dairy, eggs, or oil) is perfectly fine.
im stupid so what time do you end the fast? whats the 9th hour?
The 9th hour is 3pm
So we as orthodox should not eat anything from the moment we wake up, until 3 p.m (or 15 by European clock)? And after 3 p m we can eat whatever?
I was thought it was basically a “vegan” fast. A Daniel fast.
In terms of what foods we eat, we still eat according the daily calendar, which means most wednesdays and Fridays are no meat, dairy, wine, or oil. Please consult a 2024 liturgical calendar from your diocese
@@OrthodoxWisdom When you say meat does this include fish on Wednesdays? Also what is your advice on eating meat on Saturdays?
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Where did Jesus teach any of this?
He taught this to the Apostles and He has continued to guide the Church since, leading the Church “into all truth.” The witness of the saints, those purified and illumines by Christ, confirms and exhibits the teachings in this video.
@@OrthodoxWisdom Where did the apostles write about this then? Is it some kind of oral tradition like the talmud?
@user-xd4rs6vr4n check out The Didache, it's directly given to us from The Apostles
It is written in the Apostolic Constitutions
"One must fast during Holy Week and Wednesday and Friday."[18] But why should I say that this regulation is only of the Apostles? It is a regulation of Christ Himself, for this is what the Apostles say in Book V, ch. 14 of the Constitutions:
"He (that is, Christ) commanded us to fast on Wednesday and Friday."[19] We therefore fast on these days according to the Holy Hieromartyr Peter (Canon 15): "On Wednesday because on this day the council of the Jews was gathered to betray our Lord; on Friday because on this day He suffered death for our salvation." The divine Jerome says the same thing.
Also Christ speaking here:
Mark Chapter 2:19-20
19And Jesus said to them, “Can the friends of the bridegroom fast while the bridegroom is with them? As long as they have the bridegroom with them they cannot fast. 20But the days will come when the bridegroom will be taken away from them, and then they will fast in those days.
Wow.. Unintentional but if you hit the hyperlink above after "Mark Chapter" "2:19" in the video, it goes directly to the narrator saying "fast Wednesday and Friday" 0.0
Not saying it's the Lord... Buuuut... xD
Great video! I do wish that Orthodoxy didn't approve of the eating of unclean meat though. I personally follow the Levitical guidelines and people get so mad when they find out! You'd think I personally offended them by choosing to follow one of God's commands. It's so frustrating that a person can get support in avoiding whatever foods they want except when it comes to unclean meats. I think it's a sign of guilt in those who get mad about it personally
“The next day, as they went on their journey and drew near the city, Peter went up on the housetop to pray, about the sixth hour. Then he became very hungry and wanted to eat; but while they made ready, he fell into a trance and saw heaven opened and an object like a great sheet bound at the four corners, descending to him and let down to the earth. In it were all kinds of four-footed animals of the earth, wild beasts, creeping things, and birds of the air. And a voice came to him, “Rise, Peter; kill and eat.” But Peter said, “Not so, Lord! For I have never eaten anything common or unclean.” And a voice spoke to him again the second time, “What God has cleansed you must not call common.” This was done three times. And the object was taken up into heaven again.”
Acts 10:9-16
The commandment of eating kosher was made obsolete and is only followed by Jews today. Please do not use your personal kosher diet to judge others and make them feel guilty.
@@M.C.M.C.I was looking for clarification on this, thanks. I recently set out to read the bible in its entirety, but I'm only as far as Deuteronomy right now, so I was wondering about kosher food and Christianity.
@@MisterFluffyBags I’m glad! I hope you have a great time reading! ☦️❤️
@@M.C.M.C. Now the apostles and brethren who were in Judea heard that the Gentiles had also received the word of God. And when Peter came up to Jerusalem, those of the circumcision contended with him, saying, “You went in to uncircumcised men and ate with them!”
But Peter explained it to them in order from the beginning, saying: “I was in the city of Joppa praying; and in a trance I saw a vision, an object descending like a great sheet, let down from heaven by four corners; and it came to me. When I observed it intently and considered, I saw four-footed animals of the earth, wild beasts, creeping things, and birds of the air. And I heard a voice saying to me, ‘Rise, Peter; kill and eat.’ But I said, ‘Not so, Lord! For nothing common or unclean has at any time entered my mouth.’ But the voice answered me again from heaven, ‘What God has cleansed you must not call common.’ Now this was done three times, and all were drawn up again into heaven. At that very moment, three men stood before the house where I was, having been sent to me from Caesarea. Then the Spirit told me to go with them, doubting nothing. Moreover these six brethren accompanied me, and we entered the man’s house. And he told us how he had seen an angel standing in his house, who said to him, ‘Send men to Joppa, and call for Simon whose surname is Peter, who will tell you words by which you and all your household will be saved.’ And as I began to speak, the Holy Spirit fell upon them, as upon us at the beginning. Then I remembered the word of the Lord, how He said, ‘John indeed baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit.’ If therefore God gave them the same gift as He gave us when we believed on the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I that I could withstand God?”
When they heard these things they became silent; and they glorified God, saying, “Then God has also granted to the Gentiles repentance to life.”
Acts 11:1-18
Please keep reading your bible because you didn't get to the explanation for his vision. It was about sharing a table with gentiles, which Talmudic law declared was forbidden. Nice try though, you proved my point exactly. 😆
@@atlasdm Keep reading. Nice try, but you’re objectively wrong. Please do not try to teach a Judaized Christianity to the people around you. Sorry.
First, the Talmud wasn’t even finished until the 6th century AD. It began to be written in the 1st century to 3rd century AD. The Talmud was written by Jewish rabbis in order to refute the teachings of Christianity and to differentiate themselves from Christians by undergoing reforms. What I hope is what you wish to refer to is the Torah, the Law of Moses, not the Talmud. If you’re going to tell people to study, please do your own studying first.
In the vision given to Peter, God commands him to kill and eat the unclean animals. Why would He do this if He didn’t mean it? That would just cause confusion. Moreover, the uncircumcised Gentiles that Peter ate with did not follow the law. They believed in Jesus, but were not under the Jewish Law of Moses, clearly since they are uncircumcised. Uncircumcision is punishable by exile under the Jewish law, “And the uncircumcised male child, who is not circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin, that person shall be cut off from his people; he has broken My covenant.”
Genesis 17:14
It is extremely likely that Peter ate unclean meat that day.
Later in the Book of Acts, the Apostles made a decree to the Churches,
“Then it pleased the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas, namely, Judas who was also named Barsabas, and Silas, leading men among the brethren. They wrote this letter by them: The apostles, the elders, and the brethren, To the brethren who are of the Gentiles in Antioch, Syria, and Cilicia: Greetings. Since we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, “You must be circumcised and keep the law” -to whom we gave no such commandment- it seemed good to us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who will also report the same things by word of mouth. For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.”
Acts 15:22-29
Do notice that abstaining from pork and shellfish is not listed, only blood, food sacrificed to animals, and the meat of animals strangled inhumanely. This message was confirmed as good and correct teaching by the Holy Spirit. Even Jesus said, “Not what goes into the mouth defiles a man; but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man.”
Matthew 15:11
Jesus also gave His Apostles the authority to interpret Scripture and to even forgive sins, something that only God could do, “And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”
Matthew 16:19
“So Jesus said to them again, “Peace to you! As the Father has sent Me, I also send you.” And when He had said this, He breathed on them, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.”
John 20:21-23
“Why does this Man speak blasphemies like this? Who can forgive sins but God alone?”
Mark 2:7
In conclusion, the Apostles and their successors, the Church Fathers, asserted that the Jewish kosher laws are not to be followed by Christians as shown by how only a tiny percentage of schismatic groups follow the Jewish dietary restrictions.
About making others feel guilty about their food consumption, Paul says, “Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things. For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats only vegetables. Let not him who eats despise him who does not eat, and let not him who does not eat judge him who eats; for God has received him.”
Romans 14:1-3
I think fasting from traditionally non-kosher foods is a good personal decision if you have made it with fasting in mind; however, if you say in your heart that those who do not follow the Jewish law should be ashamed, you are prideful and your fast is made invalid. Nice try, though. I would recommend reading the Epistle to the Romans or to the Galatians for further information.
“Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage. Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing. And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law. You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace. For we through the Spirit eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but faith working through love. You ran well. Who hindered you from obeying the truth? This persuasion does not come from Him who calls you. A little leaven leavens the whole lump.”
Galatians 5:1-9
So what can I eat on Wednesday and Friday.?
Anything vegan, no oil, no alcohol
@OrthodoxWisdom can I use Almond milk or soy milk
@babycricket9649 yes. But again the idea is to limit the amount of the food and the emphasis on food and offer everything we have to Christ in love. We keep the rule and transcend the rule at the same time.