Hi, I have had man careers and hobbies over the 65 years of my life. One of them was a gunsmith, I took one of those correspondence courses while I worked as a police officer, and part time with two professional gunsmiths, one of which formed the K&P Rifle barrel Co. So I have good background in guns, and have been a woodworker for a few years now, as well as several electronic hobbies that I shan't go into. That said, I am impressed with your work, and never really gave any thought to using my router table to work soft metals, what a great idea! I have made parts out of brass and aluminum over the years, using my drill press as a make-shift mill when I couldn't get down to the shop to use the big machines, after K&P Moved from ND to NM, and I guess back then I didn't have the 3 or 4 routers I have in the shop now.
With care, and I stress with care, it works well. I pushed it a little on this job and will refrain from going as aggressive again. With that said, I'm pleased on how it worked out. Have you a project in the works? I suspect by visiting here, you must be interested. Please stay in touch.
OH just a few ideas running through my ancient brain, I don't know if I have the wherewithal to do a complete gun any more, but watching your videos sure does bring back the memories of the good old days before I became disabled and had a very active life.
That is a nice slab of Al and a lot of work ahead but the final result will closely equal an expensive CNC milling machine. The way you design the firing group seems to indicate you are a little more skilled at the function of the weapon than the average guy. Looks good.
OK, though me thinks ease back on depth of cut. Have you ever tried routing brass or any other copper alloys? Fine Wookworking recommends adding a filter to router's air intake vents since aluminum is conductive. Chips fly everywhere so wear eye protection and avoid touching work for a minute or so since it could get very hot. If router has speed selection choose lowest speed maybe and use single flute bits?
+Lokkas I wish. One of the hardest languages to learn on the planet. Nah, I use google translate. I probably told him to take my shoe and beat me with it:)
I was wondering how you were going to go about hogging out the mag well. I was thinking about coming in from the bottom end half way, and then down from the top again the other half. But his worked out nicely. I expect you will fill in the back strap gap of the grip again.
are these just regular wood routing bits? My guess is yes they are but you are babying them due to using them on metal b4ecause when you think about it steel bit vs aluminum. The harder metal wins and should be quite suitable for cutting the softer metal.
Wow! Very nice. Are you planning to make the slide from aluminum, too? I'm a bit concerned a steel slide/aluminum frame combo would seize after a few cycles...
Thank you. This is really interesting. The completion of your magazine well is something I am really curious about. Will you steel reinforce the barrel lug area?
I am about to start this project. Can I cut the frames and assemble like the 25version? What if I wanted to use the router technique like shown in the video? How would I know how deep down to cut like to the degree. Like how you have it clamped and sliding along, how do I know to what depth to adjust the router bit when sliding along
When it comes to cutting g slots across the frame whether it be the top or the back or bottom,how do you know the depth to cut the slots,I don't think all the depths and where to start are mentioned.. How do I get the spec or am I over looking and they are somewhere mentioned in the video
+oneproudbrowncoat it would prolly work all right.. but would still need something for rails and barrel lug .. the aluminum itself would wear out or break from the force the forces working on it.. idk but I think he has a plan for that
Wow, thanks. This may turn out to be the most cost-effective way for a home gunsmith to build from scratch. Granted, milling steel is probably not an option, but still, lots of possibilities. Really interested to see what you do with the rest of this.
+Bob Smith It's just a wood working router fixed to a table. It's featured in an earlier video. ruclips.net/video/5CZPZSyX5Fo/видео.html This technique is only good for aluminum, if approached with great care.
Thank you, I saw woodworking ones but couldnt find a metalworking router, didnt know if you had different tool than a router that I didnt know the name of
+mokshavortice The latest steel I purchased from an aircraft supply house. You can buy online through Aircraft Spruce or any number of companies supplying the Experimental market. I bought the mild steel used for the Krikit from an local off cuts warehouse.
+Argonco2 I think that this gun will make a bigger boom than my little Krikit:) I'm excited for the finish, which is some weeks away. But, I and my viewers will hopefully learn something new.
Fantastic! What's the exact ETA for this bad boy? I figure with the last gun, you have quiet a bit of experience in building guns like this now, so hoping for a shorter amount of time. Not sure on your background though, so for all I know you have access to all sorts of nifty gizmos in your shop. I also have a challenge for you by the way.... Would you be willing to build a Luty Machine Pistol, but instead of just building the small gun, turn it into a battle rifle capable of firing modern .223 and have some form of pictany or other form of mounting rail on top for scopes. Before you say impossible... It's been done by some bikie gangs in Australia in order to make combat rifles! i.imgur.com/UKS1XXq.jpg
+Joey Skylynx I think this build will progress a lot faster than the Krikit. There was a learning curve involved. As to nifty gizmos, not really. Just average Home Depot type stuff. I have some specialized aircraft building tools, but they don't often get used in these types of things. As to the next project, I'm not sure what direction I'll go. I'm fascinated with gas actions. But whatever I do, it will be on the correct side of the law.
I have seen a few gas actions on the Murdercube site, not sure how many are on there, but I could take a look if you want. Also what kind of aircraft building tools we talking about? You fly lightweights?
Oh and that's another thing... Have you ever considered putting up a Patreon? You could set it up so you could get some better tools and such. Not to mention you could also sell that little book we were screwing around about.
+Joey Skylynx Sheet metal tools. I built an RV-6 over some years and won some awards for it. Flew the crap outa it for four years and captured some world records. Here's me landing in Lakeland FL with a buddy on board. lh3.googleusercontent.com/-96A_WOtUMEE/VwrTFlWx1cI/AAAAAAAACVE/gvMd62rpFlQ0wRm52uKQmTSOobfD4MeMwCCo/s800/ZRVsunfun-001.jpg I will check out the suggested site. Thanks.
The interesting thing is that I can afford much better tools. I think the attraction to this channel is that you can do stuff with patience and minimal tools. I will at some point start another channel that uses real machine tools. But at this point in time, I'm having a blast making my tortured tools make guns:)
Hi, I have had man careers and hobbies over the 65 years of my life. One of them was a gunsmith, I took one of those correspondence courses while I worked as a police officer, and part time with two professional gunsmiths, one of which formed the K&P Rifle barrel Co. So I have good background in guns, and have been a woodworker for a few years now, as well as several electronic hobbies that I shan't go into. That said, I am impressed with your work, and never really gave any thought to using my router table to work soft metals, what a great idea! I have made parts out of brass and aluminum over the years, using my drill press as a make-shift mill when I couldn't get down to the shop to use the big machines, after K&P Moved from ND to NM, and I guess back then I didn't have the 3 or 4 routers I have in the shop now.
With care, and I stress with care, it works well. I pushed it a little on this job and will refrain from going as aggressive again. With that said, I'm pleased on how it worked out.
Have you a project in the works? I suspect by visiting here, you must be interested. Please stay in touch.
OH just a few ideas running through my ancient brain, I don't know if I have the wherewithal to do a complete gun any more, but watching your videos sure does bring back the memories of the good old days before I became disabled and had a very active life.
Well, you are most certainly welcome to come along on my journey. Take care friend.
I love watching you do this
Love Your Projects! cant wait to see it finished KEEP IT UP :D much love from florida!
Here I bought a mill for cutting metal and it looks like your router removes metal a lot faster. The frame looks excellent so far. Keep on keeping on.
That is a nice slab of Al and a lot of work ahead but the final result will closely equal an expensive CNC milling machine.
The way you design the firing group seems to indicate you are a little more skilled at the function of the weapon than the average guy.
Looks good.
+TruAnRksT I'm not sure about the skilled part. I do a lot of thinking when I should be working or sleeping. I'm just very patient and work slow:)
Awsome! I love to watch your videos.
+Clayton Harper I love to make them:)
OK, though me thinks ease back on depth of cut.
Have you ever tried routing brass or any other copper alloys?
Fine Wookworking recommends adding a filter to router's air intake vents since aluminum is conductive. Chips fly everywhere so wear eye protection and avoid touching work for a minute or so since it could get very hot. If router has speed selection choose lowest speed maybe and use single flute bits?
Super cool progress!!
+perpetualjon It's never as quick as I want.
Awesome work 👍🏻
+Mastapoole Thanks.
我都等不及了，希望你早日完成伟大的工作！周末愉快！😄
+song jin 谢谢。和你有一个伟大的周末也是如此。
+Clinton Westwood wow, do you speak chinese?
+Lokkas I wish. One of the hardest languages to learn on the planet. Nah, I use google translate. I probably told him to take my shoe and beat me with it:)
Clinton Westwood
that´d be bad, we would lose an awsome gunsmith
I was wondering how you were going to go about hogging out the mag well. I was thinking about coming in from the bottom end half way, and then down from the top again the other half. But his worked out nicely. I expect you will fill in the back strap gap of the grip again.
+isserfiq1 Yup, you got it. I learn slow and I will use the Krikit experience to the max:)
great video looking really good
+Banana potpie I love watching the chips fly out of that fixture.
+Clinton Westwood yea.. kind of reminds me of a wood chipper
are these just regular wood routing bits? My guess is yes they are but you are babying them due to using them on metal b4ecause when you think about it steel bit vs aluminum. The harder metal wins and should be quite suitable for cutting the softer metal.
Wow! Very nice. Are you planning to make the slide from aluminum, too? I'm a bit concerned a steel slide/aluminum frame combo would seize after a few cycles...
+Imothep All moving and high stress parts will be steel on steel or steel reinforced.
I'm glad I found this, I'm looking forward to the rest of your build!
+onlychevys Williams It should be interesting. So far no big surprises.
Thank you. This is really interesting. The completion of your magazine well is something I am really curious about. Will you steel reinforce the barrel lug area?
+The Laughing Hyenas I'm not sure yet. I do a lot of eyeball engineering.
I am about to start this project. Can I cut the frames and assemble like the 25version?
What if I wanted to use the router technique like shown in the video? How would I know how deep down to cut like to the degree. Like how you have it clamped and sliding along, how do I know to what depth to adjust the router bit when sliding along
Sick progress. Looks like you're gonna be pulling aluminum chips out of your hair for weeks though!
+Graham Hawes You're being very genteel by just suggesting ears:)
Very Good.The metal frame is aluminum?Thank from Portugal.
+coelhoteixeira Yes sir, 6061-T6.
Thank you Sir.
When it comes to cutting g slots across the frame whether it be the top or the back or bottom,how do you know the depth to cut the slots,I don't think all the depths and where to start are mentioned..
How do I get the spec or am I over looking and they are somewhere mentioned in the video
I'd have to look at the design again, but how's the mag well meant to be open like that? I guess you'll bolt in a subassembly?
it will prolly be like h
the .25 auto
+Banana potpie Stands to reason. You know, this makes me wonder about applying the same method to a Krikit.
+oneproudbrowncoat it would prolly work all right.. but would still need something for rails and barrel lug .. the aluminum itself would wear out or break from the force the forces working on it.. idk but I think he has a plan for that
+Banana potpie Lots of pistols have aluminum rails for the slide to run along.
+GunFun ZS Yes to what potpie said. The FCG will insert from the back ala Krikit and create the rear wall of the magazine well.
Very good job!! steel 40/41?
+sharivan31 6061-T6 on the frame, 4130 on the slide and barrel.
Thank you, apparently it is a steel used in bicycles
I see you nicked the thread on one of the bolts from your fixture dud it destroy the bit?
+truenough86 Yes, it destroyed it. A micro second of inattention...
Any chance of posting a link to where you got your bits?
+Robert Donovan www.harborfreight.com/carbide-tip-woodworking-router-bit-set-15-pc-68872.html
Go figure:)
Wow, thanks. This may turn out to be the most cost-effective way for a home gunsmith to build from scratch. Granted, milling steel is probably not an option, but still, lots of possibilities. Really interested to see what you do with the rest of this.
Is that aluminum ?
هل القطعةالتي صنعت منها السلاح حديد ام معدن ارجو الرد
معدن اكيد
how thick was the alluminum plate u sed for the frame
+HELLS REAPERS M.C. .75"
what is the tool you are using in this vid called? new to metalworking and wanna get the basics
+Bob Smith It's just a wood working router fixed to a table. It's featured in an earlier video.
ruclips.net/video/5CZPZSyX5Fo/видео.html
This technique is only good for aluminum, if approached with great care.
Thank you, I saw woodworking ones but couldnt find a metalworking router, didnt know if you had different tool than a router that I didnt know the name of
Where do you get your sheet metal?
+mokshavortice The latest steel I purchased from an aircraft supply house. You can buy online through Aircraft Spruce or any number of companies supplying the Experimental market. I bought the mild steel used for the Krikit from an local off cuts warehouse.
frame aluminium??
this metal and aluminum?
6061 aluminum
+Clinton Westwood qual o material que você usou para fazer uma arma? aço inoxidável ?
which material you used for to do a gun? stainless steel ?
Daaaaaaaang that looks good. Why isn't everyone building autopistols?
+GunFun ZS She's not working yet:)
is it 7075 aluminium？
+Jay Zmj 6061
If you were to clamp a block of wood to the tabletop you will be able to hold your frame tight against the fence more precisely.
Good idea. I will try that next time.
Sånn der var du digitalt åver åka.
3:25 that's what she said
:)
Thanks im gonna attempt a 9mm version
+HELLS REAPERS M.C. Remember to be mindful of the slide mass if you're doing it as a blowback.
Bravo 😍😍
Bom video muito bom parabéns queria ver uma metralhadora tec 9
Muito bom parabéns
fantastic wery good pozzz ppn vitezovi
+Argonco2 Thanks
+Clinton Westwood shoot frome this gun well be great and fantastic fell....weith to see flash frome muzzle and here sound pozzzz ppn vitezovi
+Argonco2 I think that this gun will make a bigger boom than my little Krikit:) I'm excited for the finish, which is some weeks away. But, I and my viewers will hopefully learn something new.
+Clinton Westwood weithing pozzzz ppn vitezovi
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Fantastic! What's the exact ETA for this bad boy? I figure with the last gun, you have quiet a bit of experience in building guns like this now, so hoping for a shorter amount of time. Not sure on your background though, so for all I know you have access to all sorts of nifty gizmos in your shop.
I also have a challenge for you by the way.... Would you be willing to build a Luty Machine Pistol, but instead of just building the small gun, turn it into a battle rifle capable of firing modern .223 and have some form of pictany or other form of mounting rail on top for scopes.
Before you say impossible... It's been done by some bikie gangs in Australia in order to make combat rifles!
i.imgur.com/UKS1XXq.jpg
+Joey Skylynx I think this build will progress a lot faster than the Krikit. There was a learning curve involved. As to nifty gizmos, not really. Just average Home Depot type stuff. I have some specialized aircraft building tools, but they don't often get used in these types of things.
As to the next project, I'm not sure what direction I'll go. I'm fascinated with gas actions. But whatever I do, it will be on the correct side of the law.
I have seen a few gas actions on the Murdercube site, not sure how many are on there, but I could take a look if you want.
Also what kind of aircraft building tools we talking about? You fly lightweights?
Oh and that's another thing... Have you ever considered putting up a Patreon? You could set it up so you could get some better tools and such. Not to mention you could also sell that little book we were screwing around about.
+Joey Skylynx Sheet metal tools. I built an RV-6 over some years and won some awards for it. Flew the crap outa it for four years and captured some world records. Here's me landing in Lakeland FL with a buddy on board.
lh3.googleusercontent.com/-96A_WOtUMEE/VwrTFlWx1cI/AAAAAAAACVE/gvMd62rpFlQ0wRm52uKQmTSOobfD4MeMwCCo/s800/ZRVsunfun-001.jpg
I will check out the suggested site. Thanks.
The interesting thing is that I can afford much better tools. I think the attraction to this channel is that you can do stuff with patience and minimal tools. I will at some point start another channel that uses real machine tools. But at this point in time, I'm having a blast making my tortured tools make guns:)
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