Alex Murdaugh juror says she WAS influenced by Becky Hill: full video
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- Опубликовано: 28 янв 2024
- A juror in the Alex Murdaugh murder trial told Judge Jean Toal she was influenced by the testimony of court clerk Becky Hill. However, she was asked by Toal if an earlier statement that she was influenced by other jurors was more accurate, and she said yes.
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Whether its legal error not, that Clerk should be fired and criminally charged for being stupid.
Yes and how stupid to write a book and then, THAT partner she wrote book with, finds out Hill committed PLAGIARISM, SO he wants nothing to do with her! Hill is a piece of work! Shameful! Unreal. She will cost the state the entire retrial cost. And to think the SC Atty General,loved her!
Let's prosecute you for making it possible, Statist:
Malum In Se/Malum Prohibitum
Nothing moral requires authority. Authority is the claim to the exclusive exemption to morality. It is a monopoly on violence. Violence is a violation because it is the initiation of aggression, not self-defense. Offense/defense are ontologically distinct. All crime has a legal equivalent (ie, taxation is extortion).
Every government is founded on Ad Baculum.
Warren v. District of Columbia
Town of Castle Rock v. Gonzales
DeShaney v. Winnebago County
Lozito v. New York City
You are legally compelled via the logical fallacies Ad Populum, Ad Baculum and Ad Verecundiam to pay for protection that they are not legally obligated to provide. That's a mafia.
The highest Abrahamic value is Ignorance of Good and Evil. It's right there in Genesis. They worship Yaldabaoth, God of the Scapegoaters: God blames Man; Man blames Woman; Woman blames Serpent; Serpent blames God, more accurately - the Serpent defines God.
God Condones Child Rape
No.s 31: 17-18
God Condones Rape
Deut. 22: 28-29
God Condones Abortion
No.s 5: 11-31
Unquestioning Obedience to Government
Rom.s 13: 1-7
Ritualistic classifying surgery as a means of psychic castration, like circumcision and sub-incision, are hallmarks of patriarchal culture, a demonstration to the young that the venerable old ones still wield the all-powerful knife - and the beginning of transsexualism. Those who do not perform the cult's rite can never enjoy full social status.
Symbols of the castrated member, the tie and bow-tie, are mandatory accoutrements of the political wardrobe and phallic monuments are erected to commemorate the minds conquered long ago. Brute force is no longer necessary.
The capitalist priest class of Psychiatry, working in tandem with the State bureaucracy, regulates and polices the new Restriction and gelding of desire. Psychiatrists, along with other legal arbiters, help to obscure justice with grey areas of intentionality, mental state, etc.
Some mistake this as a system of Liberty, ignorant of the fact that Psychiatric Control is a cornerstone of the perfected Totalitarian State.
All modern illnesses come from the absurd and tragic struggle of man's inability to bridle Nature. This dogma echoes perpetually, omnisciently by understanding voices in self-help books, billboards, radio commercials and television talk shows to convince the public to practice continual self-suppression and hormonal restraint. Any deviation is an indication of something severely wrong with the individual.
Perhaps Lycanthropic Transformation Rites are in some way a Psychic Preparation for the millennial calamities that are thought to lie ahead.
Legalism is a Language of Equivocations, a process of assimilation to violence and illogic.
Etymology: government
Gubernare: to control
Mens/Mentis: mind
culture
Colere: to inhabit, to till
Cult: collective mind
-ure: process of
civilize, etc.
Civitas: city
-ize: to do/to make like
police, policy, politics, polite
Polis: city
authority
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-ity: quality of
religion
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uniform
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They lump themselves into a group. They want all the collective praise and none of the collective blame (No True Scotsman). If they were truly concerned for their reputation they wouldn’t wear a uniform. Badges are just snowflakes.
"Everything is metamorphosed into its opposite to perpetuate itself in its expurgated form. All the powers, all the institutions speak of themselves through denial, in order to attempt, by simulating death, to escape their real death throes. [...] For example: it would be interesting to see whether the repressive apparatus would not react more violently to a simulated holdup than to a real holdup. Because the latter does nothing but disturb the order of things, the right to property, whereas the former attacks the reality principle itself." - Jean Baudrillard (Simulacra & Simulation - 1981)
"Our rulers, who rule our symbols, and so rule a symbolic class of life, impose their own infantilism on our instituitions, educational methods, and doctrines. This leads to maladjustment of the incoming generations which, being born into, are forced to develop under the un-natural (for man) semantic conditions imposed on them. In turn, they produce leaders afflicted with the old animalistic limitations. The vicious circle is completed; it results in a general state of human un-sanity, reflected again in our instituitions. And so it goes, on and on." - Alfred Korzybski (Science and Sanity: An Introduction to Non-Aristotelian Systems and General Semantics - 1933)
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"If I could not be Alexander, I should wish to be Diogenes." - Alexander the Great
"A man is no less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new master once in a term of years." - Lysander Spooner (No Treason: Constitution of No Authority - 1867)
"It is incredible how as soon as a people become subject, it promptly falls into such complete forgetfulness of its freedom that it can hardly be roused to the point of regaining it, obeying so easily and willingly that one is led to say that this people has not so much lost its liberty as won its enslavement." - Étienne de la Boétie (Discours de la servitude volontaire ou le Contr'un - 1577)
"Leadership in government is political power, and political power is an official form of antagonizing the people. Politics are rules imposed upon the people. They have every man in a straight jacket and without a passport he cannot move a toe. In a free world, they violate the natural rights of every citizen. They have become the weapons of political despots and if you don't think as they think you're deprived of your passport." - Michael Chaplin as Rupert Macabee (A King in New York - 1957)
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Have private time with jurors. that's a seperate issue from whether she tried to influence jury. She is an elected official so wonder who would fire her? She should at least be given different responsibilities so she couldn't have private time with jurors.
Agree being a def is hard enuf
Criminal charges may be applicable.
As an elected official, there is in mechanism to remove a SC county level elected official. Next election is November 2024.
Juror is easily influenced and admitting she is weak and can’t make up her own mind. She should have not been on the jury in the first place. And the court clerk was entirely wrong to talk. Both have no right to being in a courtroom. Regardless Alex is where he should be and hopefully for a very long time
This lady is full of lies. How could you be influenced by something but when asked, what influenced you, you have no answer. Come on.
The judge started with intimidating questions in my opinion
Sounded like shecwas trying to remember what she was told to say and judge pressed her and she was lost. The truth is not hard to remember!
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@@song9119The Judge was pretty clear that there were no “right” or “wrong” answers.
I love this judge! She’s a no nonsense person and I love it!
' She' is bumbling and fumbling reading off a sheet
Careful with them pronouns 😂
@@vining932892😂😂😂 lol ur silly
@@vining932892 😂🤣
@@AlmostReady504 A couple times yes, but really, everyone can do that once in a while. Doesn’t make her a bad judge.
This lady juror says she CANNOT REMEMBER what Hill said BUT it influenced her….lies.
😅Be a juror here. Ud be so biased😊
I think 🤔 she's lying aswell
Love this judge no nonsense and quite brilliant
Another male juror heard Hill say to watch defendant body language….but it did not influence his decision.
True but likely he didn’t understand the question her words affirmed his decision. Hard to say if that would have changed his decision however we don’t have an alternative timeline where she didn’t do that
But Juror Z said her decision was influenced. If that’s the case than the defendant did not receive a fair trial and this should come down to a mistrial.
@@linkjourney422correct. It only takes one juror.
Yup, affected the process. But I doubt they will find him innocent ever…new trial or nit
@@insilence6156 I mean I think Alex Murdaugh is guilty but a conviction needs to be fair. If there was jury tampering which according to Juror Z there was. Then the conviction was gained through dishonest and unfair means and this defendant should be given a new trial. This should be the viewpoint of anyone who wants are courts and Justice system to work fully.
if this was 30 years ago, he would have just gotten away with murder. glad it's today.
THE OUTCOME WILL NEVER CHANGE! Stop bilking the taxpayers
I think he is in this for the loooong game , you will be bored to death but I have a feeling he will be free sooner than we wish
Both Judge Newman and Justice Toal have renewed my faith.
Did they pay this juror off? Why did she not step forward prior to Poot and Griffin trying to get him a new trial?
Exactly. She also seems wishy washy.
Was SLED paid off to lie to the grand jury?
That is what I was thinking.🤔
She did not seem credible in the least.
That juror and Becky Hill are similarly lacking in credibility and candor. Also far too chatty and attention seeking.
Love seeing Mr. Harpootlian put in his place.
I agree 100%
Sorry…what’s his place exactly? He’s doing his job vigorously defending his client.
His job is to uphold the law and strive for justice...not waste time and taxpayer dollars because he and his sidekick are good at finding loopholes. The defense just love attention 🥱
I like this judge. Definitely going to get to the bottom of this.
Mr Harpootin, you want everything your way, judges are there for a reason, you are grandstanding .... I must say I am very sceptical about a lot of things in this defense strategy. Luckily this judge is a straight arrow.
She must have been influenced by his rugged good look... 😳😬
Nah, it's the money she'll get.
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As someone who works in the NYC court system- I cannot imagine a clerk acting this way, they’d be arrested for felony jury tampering as should she!
Unfortunately in SC for elected Court Clerks the training is a couple day seminar with zero prior education or clerk experience requirements.
Clerk Hill was elected in Nov 2020 (took office Jan 2021). As there is no mechanism to remove the County level elected official. Re-election is November 2024.
How come they didn't say anything about that during the trail???
They were hiking on the wrong trail.
Because the clerk of the court is in charge, and already got another juror thrown out. The clerk is arranging your meals, your breaks, even wether you can smoke during the evening after court. She's controlling the press, the guards, the jury, and treats the whole building like she owns it. The judge treats her like she's in charge of the jury, the cameras, the press, the security, and the building, down to what time it gets unlocked.
You're a juror watching this go on, and you don't actually know what the clerk is allowed to tell you. Do you tattle to the judge? The judge told you to ask the clerk for anything you need, and you're going around the communication chain the judge ordered you to follow? And you don't even know what the law says about the clerk giving you general advice about how to tell a lie from the truth.
I don't think you say anything until you have a chance to ask a lawyer about it, and guess what: you've been ordered not to even tell your spouse about anything you see in the case.
I think I would be afraid to get a contempt charge for even asking my attorney about it, and I'm going to look really stupid if it turns out she's allowed to give you general advice like get a good night's sleep, pay attention during testimony and don't look at your feet, look at the witness. Maybe she can say, watch all witnesses to see how certain or how uncomfortable they are as they answer certain questions.
No, I think it's perfectly understandable that you keep your mouth shut until the judge releases you talk about your experience. Then when someone tells you that was crossing the line, or just says you should ask the defense if it's allowed, knowing they will tell you if it is and what to do, free of charge.
@@ED-es2qv This might be the best RUclips comment ever. Nailed everything.
It was only revealedvafter
In a big trial like that you always double think yourself. But when you make the decision stand by it or say not guilty to begin with
Where was Hill when they heard this? Speaking to the jurors?
The judge sounds like they may be a veteran who was in leadership with, “At ease.” The jurors and such better tread carefully in that courtroom.
But no other jurors heard Becky Hill say anything ? Hmmm ..
This judge is good 👍
Any trial that clerk had any contact with jurors on should be looked at.
He IS STILL GUILTY!!!
I like that judge!!!
He just like being in court😮
And why wouldn’t her attorney brief her the day before on her past testimony?
Defense absolutely proved a new trial must be given!
She sure put Poot in his place..
God Bless This Judge 🙏 She is The Best and Respected Judge that I have ever seen and heard, just as Judge Newman 🙏
I believe it: evidence judicial liaisons influing juriors; not their job!
How can there be no right or wrong answers? If the jury says her verdict was influenced and tainted, how can that possibly be right?
If the Jurors testimony detailed what actually happened it would be the “right” answer because it’s the truth!
Uh oh.. Alec gonna get a retrial?
OMG, did that judge DELIBERATELY choose the Karen hairdo?? 😂😂😂
Check her bank account.
Huge screw up by Harpootlian - first by drafting para 10 of the affidavit that says juror z was pressured by other jurors, then by asking that the affidavit be given to juror z for questioning!!
Felt pressured
They got to a juror! Scary! He'll get out...smh
Well bloody hell!
Unbelievable. Why didn’t they say something earlier?
And so it goes with extremely rude judges in SC. Wow.
I love Prosecutor Waters. He has a great amount of integrity and professionalism. He never lets things ruffle his feathers.
The biggest pre op ever
Usual suspect
harpootin made a rookie fukin move offering the affidavit. the juror answered the question very simple, did it influence your vote?? she said yes.
Looks llike the Good 'Ol Boy network is still in force down there.
At 8:00. The blond lady in the upper background with the white and black shirt shows excactly what I felt listening to this until the judge finally ordered him to sit down.........
Bravo à ce juge il est sérieux et franc, je l’aime beaucoup
The judge is a lady, and her voice is gruff because she is not so young anymore, but still very astute.
@@esmeduplessis941😂😂😂 exactly what I was going to say
Guilty
Who is Becky Hill?
Clerk of court
A lousy stinky awful democrat
The judge is a joke.
Female.i believe
Don’t they watch him anyways so this is stupid! If she is influenced by this it’s ridiculous
To me it appears the judge asked some intimidating questions at first, for instance, when the judge asked each juror if it was their true verdict, and some more questions that can be viewed as making the juror afraid to tell the truth about Becky’s behavior
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This judge is great and i wanna see her in a trial lol but shes so wrong about that affidavit. Wanting someone to review prior statements does not mean that it's admitted as evidence. I'm not sure what's wrong with this state but they need to stop giving reasons for new trials and appeals
Could this mean a retrial??
Only if the vote influenced the totality
It should. The constitution guarantees any defendant a fair and unbiased jury. If one juror’s verdict was influenced by the clerk of court than that would mean that this juror’s verdict was biased, and that the defendant did not receive a fair trial. Remember all juror’s must vote unanimously to convict. If one holds out than it becomes a mistrial
Yes there will be a retrial.
@@linkjourney422 yup, affected the process. But I have issue with her long long pauses between judge question and her answers.
money changes everything
Love to listen to Patty Play her Violin . Wish I could Play with her.
Not sure, is Judge male or female?
My exact thoughts. 😂
Woman with a low manly voice 😜
Trans
What relevance could have if is man or woman?
@@CarmenLucia. Big relevance now in Woke culture. I suspect Murdaugh isn't woke. 😉
But… was he really guilty of killing the wife and son? What if it was someone else?
Edit to add that knowing he owed money to people, that he must have had enemies, what if they wanted to hurt him in a manner that he would suffer enormously, then they hurt him killing the wife and son.
He isn’t a healthy guy to perform physically all what it took to kill, run, dispose of clothes, guns, go here and there, hmmmm, as much as I dislike this man, I have been thinking how fit he would have to be to do all what it took to commit that heinous acts in super fast time?
I believe he was considered guilty before the verdict, for his despicable character, his arrogance, his status and for his physical appearance.
He did it. Follow the gps, the fact of his steps on his cell, the tape by his son at the kennel…no doubt he is guilty. They were feared by everyone….no new trial will find him innocent.
I still think he's guilty based solely on the evidence provided at trial. I'd vote guilty every time even if he got 1,000 more trials. He's 1,000% GUILTY
Have u not seen the evidence against him or follow the trial? There's no doubt he's guilty. His health? Look @him he's healthy as the horse! He was drug addicted doesn't mean he was disabled!
Salute to this Judge for being an Honorable Judge & Keeping her Court in Check..!! Much Respect..!!
I agree that I don't think they proved him guilty. There is so much more going on with the whole story. The man had an addiction and mishandled others' money that doesn't make him a murderer. He should be given a new trial and Becky Hill should have known better.
Wow
Check her bank account
This judge wants the truth until the truth is not what she expected to hear. At 2:38, after getting the bad news, for the state, the judge starts using her right hand to point while asking questions. At 2:59, after getting the really bad news, for the state, the judge starts moving her jaw and mouth around as she did not expect that getting the truth would get these answers. She is possiby on the side of the state.
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Ffs
@@cathal4921 You might not like it, but it's accurate.
@kk3940 Yea, so much for the judge being "impartial".
Democrats
Funny that you are so influenced so badly, but you can't remember what it was????😮
The Juror is looking to make a name for herself, she should be tried herself for lying to the court.
Just like Becky did?
Is the judge trans?
Is the judge a dude??
It's Pat 😮
Definitely like this judge