SumoSprings are the way to go if you're looking at this type of spring help. Timbren is made with excellent material, but the huge problem with them is that they still leave a huge gap between it and the axle which still leaves the truck to sag 3 inches before they can actually help with load, may as well leave the stock bump stops in my opinion. Sumo's are way bigger and better dampening material that leave about an inch to inch and a half between itself and the axle so they are functional right from the start of your drive no matter the terrain.
Very helpful video I didn’t have a lift but I did have a small hydraulic floor jack lifted up enough to place it in the cup put a small 2x4 underneath and used a 2x6x12 end ways on the jack to lift on frame let back down with 2x4 underneath the bump stop soapy water
Have a 2016 Ram Rebel with air suspension delete with these on. Great for towing just as video says. But gap is only 3/4 - 1 inch. And you feel every bump in road. ESP back seat.
I have a 2012 1500 4 wheel drive with a leveling kit. I don't tow anything with it but when the bed is loaded it sags. I currently have a Bakflip F1 taneu cover that weighs around 70lbs and a couple other small things in the bed and the bed is 1" lower than the front end. Will this SES kit work with a leveled truck or should I go with airbags?
You can call Timbren to get spacers and hardware to accomodate the kit to your lift. You normally want 1" between your axle and timbren so you'll have to do some measuring
THEY WILL BEAT YOU TO DEATH HAD A SET AND THEY DO FINE WHEN YOU CARRY A LOAD BUT WHEN PULLING A TRAILER THEY DONT GIVE AND THE RIDE IS TERRIBLE. AIR BAGS ARE THE WAY TO GO OR SUMO SPRINGS.
Because TufTruck coils are giving resistance from the get go which causes a harsh ride when unloaded. These bump stops don't start to engage until you are loaded
I've seen where most people set them in place by putting a couple of small 2 x 4's on the axle and then jacking up the frame to set them in. I don't think you can just push and twist them in to stay put. The video makes it look easy, but I think they need to compress into that cup for them to hold in place. Did you try that? Are you sure you have the one's that fit your particular truck? I've seen some off brands that look like Timbren's, but they aren't actually Timbrens.
If you're Towing heavy trailer Yes. Otherwise u get 1.5" of suspension before the axle stops it and boy what a hard ride after that. They only work as suspension when under Massive weight like a 4000-6000lbs travel trailer
well. i have a 2022 f350 with over 3500 payload capacity. my 5th wheel which has a 2700lb pin weight still sags enough that my timbrens make contact with the landing plate especially over uneven terrain....so what exactly is that about a capable truck? because that payload capacity doesn't get much more capable than that...or should I just be one of the "look at me boys" who put airbags on everything just to say they have airbags....wait wait, i'll just prepare for the incoming "should have bought a chevy instead" reply.
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Dont bother with Timbren SES suspension.. They are not good. Instead purchase an Air bag suspension system. Far better product
How in this world did you get 2 hour installation time from that. You should change that to 2-4 minutes per side.
Yeah, my mecanic said bout 30 minutes for the job...
Thats exactly what I was coming here to say🤣😂
That was my first reaction........6 min video to install and then says 2 hour job??
SumoSprings are the way to go if you're looking at this type of spring help. Timbren is made with excellent material, but the huge problem with them is that they still leave a huge gap between it and the axle which still leaves the truck to sag 3 inches before they can actually help with load, may as well leave the stock bump stops in my opinion. Sumo's are way bigger and better dampening material that leave about an inch to inch and a half between itself and the axle so they are functional right from the start of your drive no matter the terrain.
It's an interesting setup on the Ram with how they pop in, but on a Super Duty (among others) they make spacers to close the gap a bit.
Not a 2-3" Gap as stated in video. ----> GAP should be 1/5 - 1.5" from bottom of Rubber to axle (plate)
I was struggling to puy this until i watched your video. It makes it easier for me to put Vaseline on it.
Very helpful video I didn’t have a lift but I did have a small hydraulic floor jack lifted up enough to place it in the cup put a small 2x4 underneath and used a 2x6x12 end ways on the jack to lift on frame let back down with 2x4 underneath the bump stop soapy water
awesome, easy install, and
looks to be really beneficial.
Glad you like it! Thanks for watching! -Zach
Have a 2016 Ram Rebel with air suspension delete with these on. Great for towing just as video says. But gap is only 3/4 - 1 inch. And you feel every bump in road. ESP back seat.
How do these compare with the Sumo Springs?
Tried them did not work major damage to my truck camper sat to low got airbags problem solved👍
What type of damage did they do to your truck? Now I'm perplexed. I was thinking about buying a set and now I'm not sure.
@@garyp9906 he's full of shit. there's zero chance that these can do damage
Remember guys the Internet, like a public bathroom anybody can take a piss or write whatever they want on the walls
I have a 2012 1500 4 wheel drive with a leveling kit. I don't tow anything with it but when the bed is loaded it sags. I currently have a Bakflip F1 taneu cover that weighs around 70lbs and a couple other small things in the bed and the bed is 1" lower than the front end. Will this SES kit work with a leveled truck or should I go with airbags?
Nice Rotary!
There’s no bolts holding it in?
Is it safe to install without jacking the truck up? Thanks
they are very good the installation is too easy
2 hour install ?? Looks like 10min and no tools. Ugh ??
Is there an option that will work with factory ram air suspension
How would this work with a truck that is lifted? I have a 2010 Dodge 1500 4x4 and when I hook up my camper I hit the bump stops.
You can call Timbren to get spacers and hardware to accomodate the kit to your lift. You normally want 1" between your axle and timbren so you'll have to do some measuring
THEY WILL BEAT YOU TO DEATH HAD A SET AND THEY DO FINE WHEN YOU CARRY A LOAD BUT WHEN PULLING A TRAILER THEY DONT GIVE AND THE RIDE IS TERRIBLE. AIR BAGS ARE THE WAY TO GO OR SUMO SPRINGS.
@@lj5245 what kind of shocks r u using? OEM or something like Bilstein 5100's... thanks
@@hunterlogan2913 right now running rancho although I think Bilstein 5100 is a better shock.
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I just order heavy duty coils and now im ordering this why not
We hope you love them! Thanks for watching! -Zach
Why not just go with HD TufTruck coils, so much more for basically the same money.
Use them. work well. more costly especially with labor
Because TufTruck coils are giving resistance from the get go which causes a harsh ride when unloaded. These bump stops don't start to engage until you are loaded
The real question is why aren't they are factory product? This is no damn brainer...
Bought these but they don't stay in place.. Any recommendations on how to keep them IN.. THEY JUST fall out
Have you figured out why they weren't staying in place? I'm thinking about ordering a set and I don't want them falling out either?
@@garyp9906 .... I have not yet come up with any ideas on how to keep them in place.. I still dont have them in. Wish I would have never bought them
@@garyp9906 ......Airbags is probably the best solution. That is what I will be getting instead
I've seen where most people set them in place by putting a couple of small 2 x 4's on the axle and then jacking up the frame to set them in. I don't think you can just push and twist them in to stay put. The video makes it look easy, but I think they need to compress into that cup for them to hold in place. Did you try that? Are you sure you have the one's that fit your particular truck? I've seen some off brands that look like Timbren's, but they aren't actually Timbrens.
@@garyp9906 ... Yes Gary i did everything to try and compress in but still dos t work properly.. I have the Timbren brand ( the original product)
2 hours??
Can you please send me the part number for this product
Here is the link! -Zach
www.americantrucks.com/timbren-ses-suspension-enhance-sys-rear-0917-crew-quad-RAM.html
if you have a 2" level will the timbren prevent it from sagging and being nose up?
If you're Towing heavy trailer Yes. Otherwise u get 1.5" of suspension before the axle stops it and boy what a hard ride after that. They only work as suspension when under Massive weight like a 4000-6000lbs travel trailer
E.A.R. Perfect I tow a 6500lb+ 5th wheel
What about a truck with a 6” lift.. 😂
I guess they're a bit useless..if the bump is touching on the axle then you're already sagging
Exactly...a total waste of time & money. Auto engineers know nothing.
@@MajTom-wd2yt they know how to sell
It's a BUMP stop, if your truck is resting on it when loaded, get a more capable truck. Total waste.
well. i have a 2022 f350 with over 3500 payload capacity. my 5th wheel which has a 2700lb pin weight still sags enough that my timbrens make contact with the landing plate especially over uneven terrain....so what exactly is that about a capable truck? because that payload capacity doesn't get much more capable than that...or should I just be one of the "look at me boys" who put airbags on everything just to say they have airbags....wait wait, i'll just prepare for the incoming "should have bought a chevy instead" reply.