Sthu fucker brady didn't even survive a 60-70 nba game he only played literally 16 games in nfl and a week apart wtf are you saying he can't even play basketball 😂you bum!! Lebron played dual sport and he played football too so what's the funny thing about this??
You gotta hand it to Iggy: he set a Finals MVP record that will never be broken: shooting under 36% from the free throw line. Only Shaq ever came close (as a Finals MVP) to matching that free throw badness. Also: Iggy is the first and last FMVP of my lifetime (even if I live another 50 years) to be outscored by a teammate by almost 10 points per game. Mark it down: you're not going to see another person given the FMVP while shooting under 36% on free throws and being outscored by 9.7 points per game by his own teammate. It happened once, and it won't happen again.
@@rambhaskar6728 he really wasn’t very good defensively. Lebrons shooting numbers wernt good but he still dominated. Even if u purely look at the shooting numbers I wouldn’t attribute that to iggy
@@trenhen4311 he stopped Lebron from taking over. They let him play after the games were out of reach. But if you watch the games, it is evident that Lebron could have done a lot more damage if not for him
@@drac149 but that wasn’t much due to iggy. Lebron was the entire offense because injuries so he had to Chuck shots basically. Iggy absolutely played great defense and did keep lebrons % even lower, but Lebron wouldn’t have shot a good % if iggy stayed home that series.
It was unjustified. By any objective metric, Curry was the most valuable Warriors player in that series. It would've made more sense to give it to LeBron than to Iggy, but if they're going to give it to someone from the winning team, then Curry was the obvious and only choice. So why did they give it to Iggy? My theory: it wasn't about Curry-hatred, not at all. Curry had just won the regular season MVP. Instead, I think it was a narrative-based award. Iggy was a starter, and a 1-time All Star. Kerr comes in and IMMEDIATELY tells Iggy he wants him to come off the bench instead of start. By all accounts, Iggy wasn't happy about it, but he embraced the team concept, and was an outstanding 6th man. Then, when trailing 2-1 in the Finals (having split a couple of overtime games) and desperately needing a game 4 win, Iggy comes into the starting lineup for the very first time all year. And he played well, and the Warriors won 3 straight. Meanwhile, Curry had a really bad shooting game in game 2 (though, to be fair, he basically single-handedly brought the Warriors back late in the game to force OT, where they lost) and, even though he shot 10-20 and 7-13 from 3s in game 3, they still lost. Games 4-6, Curry scored 22, 37, and 25, but the narrative was already set: Iggy sacrificed for the good of the team, then, when the team struggled, he came back to the starting lineup, and the series turned around; everyone knows LeBron was really the best player in the series, not Curry, and if we're not going to give it to LeBron, how about the guy who guarded LeBron? The narrative fit together. Iggy is the first and only Finals MVP you're ever going to see who was outscored by 9.7 points per game by his own teammate, and you'll never see another Finals MVP shoot under 36% on free throws. You can memorize that as a universal law: it'll never happen again.
@@eeeee4686 bro that dont matter ja doesnt improve the memphis in the court their defense actually gets higher with him off the court. Nuggets one they were litrally almost swept even when those 2 guys goes back they will do nothing than to bring the game to 6. Those are litrally the 1st and 2nd round as well.
It's amazing how a video like this has a decent like/dislike ratio but the a purely satirical one about MJ gets thousands of dislikes. He truly is a media creation
@@manmeet4804 companies asked them to do it because people were mass disliking videos from large companies and messing with their perception and public image. Should've made it an option for each creator instead of making a site wide thing
Not it wasn’t ...Lmao no one wants to talk about in 2016 when both teams were healthy and had all of its players 1st 4 games the Warriors was far better than the Cavs was up 3-1 cavs only started winning when Bogut the only rim protector the guy who had 5 blocks game 3 got hurt and was out for the series . Then after that Draymond got suspended then game 6 Iggy was carried off the floor due to injury. this likely prove in 2015 that the Warriors would hv won anyway just like they did Game 1 when Kyrie pretty much played the entire game except last 2 mins of of OT ... funny how it’s okay for cavs to blame injury in 2015 but not the Warriors in 16... not to mention Steph wasn’t himself in 16 due to MCL lingering affects ... KD was a luxury not a need again both rosters healthy and full Warriors proved they were the best team without KD ... being that the only 4 games both teams played with both team all players available Warriors won 3 of 4 of those ...
@@diatribeeverything what Steph look like being the only person say nah I don’t want KD when Dray Klay and the GM all wanted him... no leader is going say no to improving his roster looking like a selfish insecure sucker
I like how at 1:17 you put Steph missing that floater to make the case he isn't a clutch player when in that same exact game Curry got the most points in overtime in NBA history (17)
@Fries Of course. He was by far the best player on the court, and he only had one bad game. When they were facing a 3-1 deficit, he dropped a career high 43 points and closed out the series with 34 I think? An All Time great performance imo. Well deserved for when he got robbed in 2015, it def should've been him or Lebron.
In most cases the FMVP should be from the winners. But (and I'm NOT arguing for LeBron 2015), but if you had a player on the losing side outplaying everyone, where he's the only reason the series is competitive, why not in a case like that? Especially when a series like that is bound to be rare
@@zaeglo8228 What kind of question is that? First, they said why not make an exception when a player on a losing team is hard carrying. They didn’t say it was stupid that Lebron didn’t get it. But to answer your actual question, Kawhi was the best player on the winning team which will always be the media’s preference. Also, while Lebron was the best player in the series he wasn’t hard carrying as hard as he was in the 2015 finals. Therefore, it’s harder to make an argument that he deserves it when his team lost. In 2015, though, he definitely deserved it
Lol with that same argument, you could easily argue that Magic Johnson is the most overrated player of all time. He had a stacked team and on top of that he had Kareem Abdul jabber. Think about it. Kareem is basically the equivalent of Shaq back in the day
Rookie year vs Philly, with Kareem out Game 6, Magic went 42, 15, 7 and 3 steals on 14-23 to close them out. KD tried coming back and went down Game 5 in 2019 and Curry was nowhere to be found in Game 6, even before Klay got hurt
That’s not even the point I’m trying to make. Yes, obviously you can’t win by yourself but to try to make the argument that Magic is overrated because he played with Kareem is absurd. If you don’t like his rookie year Finals, then check the stats on his 1987 FMVP. He was head and shoulders the best player in the series. As stated in the video, Curry has never been that in the Finals. That’s not to take away from the fact that Curry is a great player, but it’s difficult to win FMVP when the other team’s guards are cooking you in every Finals besides 2015.
I’m sure steph curry will cry tears of disappointment at the fact that he will only be considered a top 15-20 all time by basketball fans... and then wipe the tears with money.
Steph is having a really good year this year without Klay and Wiseman so I think that he could easily run a few finals MVP’s if the warriors keep the pieces together and play well in the playoffs. Edit: He did it 🥳
They lost to suns and he sucked . They’ll choke in the playoffs unless they get injury luck . They and esp Steph always underperforming in playoffs. Enjoy celebrating regular season wins only to lose to ja morant when it matters 😂
snatch sniffer Klay Thompson averaged 15 on 39% for the entire 2017 playoffs when the Warriors went 15-1 and Draymond averaged 13. U call that a superteam? Bosh and Wade only did that for one series
Also, I love your content Barry but a team has to be organically grown? The warriors drafted 3/4 superstars (Durant the odd man out) whereas the Heat drafted only Wade while Lebron and Bosh squadded up later. Kinda hypocritical?
@@hoshangmerzanazar2317 yeah I mean if anybody actually looked Dwayne wade wasn’t playing at anywhere near a superstar level in the playoffs(especially the finals) after Lebrons first year.
But LeBron’s team brightest star was always himself, meanwhile KD came and basically outshined the rest of the Warriors stars. Till this day, KD at the Warriors still feel weird.
Not only did Steph not win finals mvps in 5 straight finals and not only was his team favored in all 5 finals BUT he arguably was never gonna win finals mvp in any of the 5 finals. 2015: Iggy 2016: Draymond 2017 & 18: KD and 2019: Klay Thompson
@@rafikz77 so are we being extremely specific about this situation so that only KD can ever be blamed. Like if the warriors only won 60 games that year instead of 73 would it be different. Or if KD lost to another team
Was expecting much more Curry slender given the title of the video, I am pleasantly surprise. But man Curry was robbed in 2015, you can't give it to Lebron because he lost (don't talk about Jerry West, it was NBA prehistory) and Iguodala didn't have a better serie than Curry. Nice video though, hope you will make more videos like that. Sending you support from France.
@@alexmotts Yes Lebron was the best player but we are talking about the most VALUABLE player not the best. In the 2004's finals Shaq was the best player on the court yet Billups won the final MVP because the word "valuable" is ,in most cases, linked with the word "victorious".
@@courtneythomas5295 because it ruined any parity the league had. That's like if Shaq in 1996 signed with the 72-10 Bulls after losing to them in the ECF. A historically dominant 73-9 Warriors team signing another top 5 player made it unfair for the rest of the league.
I will go to my grave thinking if Draymond hadnt been booted out for LeBron stepping over,then it would be 4-1 with GSW winning. Plus it blows my mind that Barry is a Bron stan. Dude hates Brady cause hes overrated yet loves Bron who is also overrated.
@Requiem Well I mean Bogut then got injured,however I do not subscribe to the thought process effecting the game. But on the other hand I do think his paint presscence would have helped a little bit.
Put this on context Kevin Durant wouldn’t score wat he scored in the finals if Steph wasn’t there because all the attention he draws. Game plan of Cavs was by all means Stop Steph and let KD do whatever he wants now tell me who was the most valuable player.
That doesn’t make you the most valuable player on the team it just means your a great they designed that game plan to have the warriors score less threes
9:55 bro were any of lebrons finals wins on teams that were formed “organically”? Every time hes won the finals has been on a team that didn’t draft the majority of its key players. Also funny how he’s saying “it’s supposed to be hard to win a championship, not a cakewalk” when lebron has intentionally made it his mission to make it extremely ez to win the finals every year. Joins heat superteam Joins cavs superteam Tries to form another superteam after kyrie gets traded by picking up Wade Isaiah Thomas, Derrick rose etc, fails miserably Joins lakers knowing ad will be coming Tries to convince kawhi and Paul George to join him and ad after acquiring ad via trade Tries to stack his team as much as possible by trading for Westbrook, getting not only valuable vets but up and coming young players to take vet min deals when they could be getting 10 mill plus a season to have depth as well as two superstars Apparently those are “organic teams” being formed by drafting players and developing them. I’m not a curry fan or lebron hater btw, I’m not a fan of any one player and not a hater either, I just tell the truth (I actually do share your hate and feelings for Tom Brady however). Lebron has done everything in his power to form unbeatable super teams since he left the Cavs the first time and the warriors just added one player to their team. Lebron even forced the 15 Cavs and the 18/19 lakers to trade away potential “organic developing” players in waiters and lonzo, Ingram, and hart. And so if the warriors rings don’t count how do lebrons? First ring: Superteam in a lockout year which was supposed to win 10 rings, also faced thunder who’s core was all under the age of 24 Second ring: missed game tying/season ending shot to be bailed out by pop taking Tim Duncan off the floor. Bosh gets rebound, kicks it to Allen to hit the greatest shot in nba history after lebron misses. Also bosh fouls Danny green in ot and gets away with it on final play Third ring: apparently even tho everyone just shit on love and called him trash and the reason they lost any time they did, he’s so valuable of a player that the series was unfair in 15. Irving also gets hurt. But in 16 when curry has a knee and ankle injury, iguadala has a back injury, bogut misses final 3 games, Draymond’s suspended for the close out game at home when u yourself say he would’ve been the finals mvp, and Harrison Barnes shit the bed all series and misses every open shot he took. Also curry’s teammates shot only 28% from 3 in the finals when he was on the court but it wasn’t fair when lebrons teammates basically did the same in 15. And then even tho curry played insane in 17 and 18 it doesn’t count because it was too unfair and he “maybe wasn’t the best player on his team”. Um so do lebrons heat rings not count since his team was lopsided compared to the opponent? Or when kyrie debatably outplayed him and saves him by hitting the series winning shot while he watches in the corner 4th ring: widely regarded as still the best player in the nba, has at worst the second best supporting cast that season behind the clippers, along with the second best player in the nba that year with ad. Also benefited from months to rest amid the pandemic, played a losing record blazers in the first round who were Rodney hood and zach Collins-less (cj McCollum also had a broken back), the rockets who had no player over 6’6 on the roster plus led by the worst postseason performing superstar in nba history in james harden, Westbrook who was just left wide open all series and couldn’t make a shot. Conference finals got to avoid the only challenge to them that year in the clippers, faced an inexperienced Denver who had to miraculously come back from 2 3-1 deficits to make it there. Finals: doesn’t play a top 4 seed in the east, plays 5th seeded heat who lost their second all star/2nd best player in bam for pretty much the whole series, lost leading scorer and starting point guard in gragic, best player was butler who’s never even been a top 10 player, second best player was a rookie who was proved his bubble play was a fluke the next year. Do any of those rings seem valuable? I didn’t even talk about his losses or the fact that he cruised thru the worst conference of all time for every year except 2020 and 21 and nearly lost to a pacers team multiple times when their best player was a pre prime pg and their second best player was lance fuckin Stephenson/Roy hibbert. Also just lost first round in the west in the first real season in that conference and had help
@Judge Jerry Poppins 1. This is a common misconception, the 17 warriors were not the 16 warriors +KD. One of the biggest reasons for their dominance in 15 and 16 was that they could go to any man on the bench and they’d be a good player. They had ridiculous depth. They sacrificed nearly all of that to add durant. The only guys they kept was curry Klay green igoudala and Livingston. That’s not adding KD to the 73-9 warriors, as they were a very top heavy team in his time there, since they gave up all depth to get him. 2. There have been plenty of teams since 2000 that were formed and thought to have been unbeatable. The 04 lakers, the 2013 lakers, the 14 nets. The durant move gs obviously seemed like the most insane team of all time had been formed but the only reason that is the case is because the big 3 heat didn’t work out like they were supposed too. I know that most people on the internet have memory loss or just weren’t following the nba until a few years ago but the reason the world went absolutely insane when they formed was because when lebron said they would win 7+ championships, It didn’t seem that crazy at the time. They just assembled the best sf, arguably the best sg, and at minimum a top 3 pf in the league all in their primes. That was crazier than the 17 warriors for a few reasons, one being that most people have lebron as the 2nd greatest ever at minimum and he was in his prime, Wade who is the 3rd greatest sg ever who was in his prime, and bosh who again was a top 3 pf in the league and a hofer who was also in his prime. Meanwhile there was no team in the nba that could come close to that level of talent. On the other hand, the 17 warriors had the 17 Cavs who again had lebron kyrie (who everyone said was better than curry at the time) and love compared to curry (who at the time was being called the third best pg behind Westbrook and kyrie) Klay who most people would say was never a top 10 player, KD who isn’t a top 10 player all time and is only the 3rd greatest sf ever, and Draymond (who everyone called overrated and trash until they signed KD then he was called a 4th all star to make it seem like the gap between the teams was that unfair.) 3. Lebron forming the Cavs superteam while being the best player in the league, love being the best pf in the league, and kyrie being a top 3 pg in the league was expected to once again dominate the nba because no other team had that level of star power. The only reason everyone overlooks lebron forming this superteam is because he was “coming home” which made it ok since he returned to the team he abandoned. In reality, he never would’ve returned if they couldn’t have gotten love and formed the superteam. Anyways, the warriors had curry who was only a 1x all star, Klay who was a 0x all star, and Draymond who wasn’t even a starter before that season. No one knew the warriors would become what they did but since we have hindsight, we act as though they were evenly matched going into the 15 season when in reality, the Cavs were expected to cruise to a finals win before the season began. And the only reason love and bosh didn’t make those super teams as insane as the could’ve been is because lebron couldn’t play with them at their best. He cant fit on a team unless there’s shooting everywhere so, the superstars in their primes had to be relegated to 3rd option spot up catch and shoot in the corner bigs. But then they’d catch all the blame when lebrons team loses since their supposed to be the third superstar, but the only reason they were “underperforming” was because they had to due to lebrons play style and needs.
@@tonj02 Heat were not a super team before LeBron joined. LeBron and Bosh helped make them a super team. That's the difference from what KD did by joining an already established super team. Not sure why you're not understanding that part.
I'm gonna say it bc I don't think I've heard anyone else say it, but when KD came back in 2019 he was having an amazing game no one can say otherwise. I do believe had he not got hurt he would've not only won the series and finals mvp but I do believe it is possible that none of the OG 3 or KD is in golden state today.
I have a few disagreements here. For starters sorry lebron didn’t deserve finals mvp in 2015 because they lost and that’s just how I feel. Next I don’t think u can hold injuries in 2015 against Steph and the warriors because injuries happens. Just like in 2019 u shouldn’t hold that loss against Steph. Now for here in 2022 Steph really proved that bit only he can be the best player on a team and now in my opinion a top 10 player ever
@@samuelwilliams6154 He did, He proved time & time again that Lebron couldn't do much in the finals without him. He dropped 40, like it was 10. He scored the winning goal too
Kawhi has one of the best playoff runs of all times under his belt while kd joined the goat team and is the best player in the world while healthy all of a sudden he’s a giant pussy before he’s the best player of all time
@@Zuri_SM Paul George laid an egg and the rest of the Clippers played like a bad g league team. Kawhi averaged 30 on great splits. Terrible series. Every star has had them. Kawhi is LeBron’s dad and demonstrates this every time they play each other lol.
@@tipaps you don't get to be better than someone by only performing well against that said player (especially considering only 2 matchups have happened in the playoffs and they are tied at 1-1). Lebron has been dominant against almost every team and player in the league. Kawhi has struggled in back to back years when he is supposed to be the leader and #1 guy on his team without joining a system and coach already set in stone. lebron is the system and coach. different levels to greatness, and Kawhi simply isn't that guy that yall want him to be. he is 29, and looks to be past his best days as a player. lebron is 36 and is still better than kawhi when healthy. also, kawhi did not average 30 on great splits vs the nuggets. he averaged 24 points on 44, 36, 87 splits. yall seem to forget the bad 14 point game he had which prevented the clippers from sweeping the nuggets, instead capping the series off at 3-1 and allowing a comeback in the first place. kawhi was the favorite to win the west and got a pass for blowing a 3-1 lead. now he is down 3-2 to luka and a bunch of role players after having a terrible game (turnovers in the clutch, air balled 3 with time on the clock). you should be less worried about lebron, and more worried about Kawhi's dad, Luka Doncic (even though kawhi is playing an injured Luka for the 2nd year straight lol).
the warriors 2015 title shouldnt lose respect because the other team got injured tf they gonna do play down to there skill level its honestly the dumbest thing ive heard in a min
Yes Durant joining the warriors ruined a potential great rivalry but its still his career and he can do whatever he wants and yes it annoys me he did it but at the same time no.
Its your body and you can do whatever you want but if you walk into an a crowded elevator and let one rip I'm going to be judging you for as far as I can throw you The warriors were a bitch for their hamptons shenanigans, and I wonder why Durant wasn't like, "wait a minute, why the fuck are you guys trying to solicit ME? I almost BEAT you with Russell WESTBRICK. HELL no!" And then join another potential contender and take payback on the Warriors there, now that would have been epic. Instead the Warriors just stack the deck for a opponent they should have beat, and Durant joined the team that beat him and kept him from making himself one of the most respected players ever if he somehow managed to win it all as well. These are just weak moves. I know you should try to make your team as good as possible and not handicap yourself on purpose, but they should have raced each other to the championship instead of drawing arbitrary cooperation. Goes against the spirit of sports imo At least they are paying for it in the court of public opinion
It's important to All Time Greats Legacy. Scottie has 6 rings, but isn't considered Top 20. It means MOST OF THE TIME that you were the most impactful player on the floor. There's a reason why Skip quotes "MJ had 6 rings with 6 FMVPS".
Because every consensus top 10 all-time player has at least one Finals MVP with the exception of Bill Russell as the award wasn't a thing until his final season in the league (the award was named after him for a reason). Steph has to win at least one Finals MVP before he gets any serious top 10 discussion. I'm not even sure if he's top 15.
Ranking the biggest bitch moves in sports history: 1. KD to Golden State 2. Lebron and Bosh to Miami * Keep up the good work. You’re my new favorite RUclips channel.
@@jman1515 It's the same. You guys always talk about how 73-9 is meaningless. But, when it comes to the KD saga, it becomes meaningful. Rodman went from the Pistons to the Bulls too
Tbh steph wasn’t the reason at all the warriors lost in 2019 not only was kd injuries but so was klay which put all the pressure on curry to carry the offense and he kept it close even with the double teams he faced and let’s be honest curry has faced a lot of double teams in his career take 2018 for example curry faced around 30-40 double teams while kd faced 2 and since kd’s signing curry has had a much better record without kd then kd has without curry if anything kd signing with gs didn’t ruin steph at all cuz no matter how u spin it kd needed curry not only does curry take the pressure away from kd but curry fit him much more then Russ did and even with Russ be named the reason the thunder never won we can’t forget kd was the one to fold during that series not Russ with kd in gs he was put in an amazing situation where he had great players to take away the pressure but that also put him in a favorable situation where he’d be made the hero of the team when they win but no looked at or blamed when they lose even tho it’s quiet clear he can’t carry like other stars can and this year is a real test to that as he now has James harden underperforming and Kyrie not playing we now get to see if kd can take this team far
How was there not a single punctuation mark in that entire paragraph? I’m not even trying to be rude when I say it makes it hard to read. Also, he says in the video Steph played well in 2019 so I’m pretty sure you just didn’t listen at that part.
@@Rekcha “this finals didn’t necessarily hurt currys legacy the way 2016 finals did” implying it hurt his legacy which is beyond a terrible statement and it’s not that hard to read if ur the only one who had a hard time reading my comments when everyone else perfectly reads and understands me
@@chancebatts4841 No one else responded, so how do you know they understood? They can see in the first few words that you’re supporting Steph and they might just like it based on that. To the current point, he said KD and Klay being injured were the biggest reasons they lost. And, most importantly, him saying “it didn’t NECESSARILY hurt his legacy like 2016” implies the 2019 finals was just neutral for his legacy, not that it hurt it. So, you are commenting hard-to-read paragraphs for no reason.
@@Rekcha necessarily doesn’t make wut he said mean it didn’t hurt him the main part of wut he said is that it didn’t hurt as much as 2016 did meaning that it hurt somewhat and in an open comment section i can say whatever I want so me making my point isn’t for no reason but u trying to argue with me is so have a nice day
The advanced stats say Steph is more valuable then KD, KD might be a better player but the system relies on curry and the reason KD was able to be so efficient is steps gravity
You literally did not explain why steph did not win FMVP in 2015. The only thing you did was saying "the finals should have been easy for the warriors" and "lebron was better". Don't get me wrong. I agree with those things but you never compared Stephs Stats to Iguodalas Stats, who actually won the FMVP. And the video is about Steph and NOT Lebron
Tom Brady Would've Helped GS Win The Finals In 2016 Becuase His Defense On Lebron Would've Been Amazing
Facts! 😹😹😹
This top comment is goated. Much like Tom Bradys ability to get the ball in good field position everytime.
Sthu fucker brady didn't even survive a 60-70 nba game he only played literally 16 games in nfl and a week apart wtf are you saying he can't even play basketball 😂you bum!! Lebron played dual sport and he played football too so what's the funny thing about this??
Honestly, if I was an NBA player, I would just be good but that’s just me🤷🏾♂️
You gotta hand it to Iggy: he set a Finals MVP record that will never be broken: shooting under 36% from the free throw line. Only Shaq ever came close (as a Finals MVP) to matching that free throw badness.
Also: Iggy is the first and last FMVP of my lifetime (even if I live another 50 years) to be outscored by a teammate by almost 10 points per game.
Mark it down: you're not going to see another person given the FMVP while shooting under 36% on free throws and being outscored by 9.7 points per game by his own teammate. It happened once, and it won't happen again.
Meh. I would love if defensive players start winning mvp.
As the spurs had proved for a decade, defense wins games better than offense.
@@rambhaskar6728 he really wasn’t very good defensively. Lebrons shooting numbers wernt good but he still dominated. Even if u purely look at the shooting numbers I wouldn’t attribute that to iggy
@@trenhen4311 he stopped Lebron from taking over. They let him play after the games were out of reach. But if you watch the games, it is evident that Lebron could have done a lot more damage if not for him
@@rambhaskar6728 it was so long ago I don’t rlly remember. Still feel like curry deserved it.
@@trenhen4311 so lebron outperformed curry. But he couldn't turn the tide coz of iggy. That's why he was awarded.
I never got why Iggy won Finals MVP over LeBron or Steph. Like nice job dude you held LeBron to his greatest stat line in the NBA finals at the time."
cuz lebron shot like 39% from the field
@@drac149 that's seems not too bad given his teammates barely shot 30% that series
@@drac149 but that wasn’t much due to iggy. Lebron was the entire offense because injuries so he had to Chuck shots basically. Iggy absolutely played great defense and did keep lebrons % even lower, but Lebron wouldn’t have shot a good % if iggy stayed home that series.
@@jakeharrison207 Not true, lebron shot under 30 percent when iguodala was guarding him he made a huge difference
It was unjustified. By any objective metric, Curry was the most valuable Warriors player in that series. It would've made more sense to give it to LeBron than to Iggy, but if they're going to give it to someone from the winning team, then Curry was the obvious and only choice.
So why did they give it to Iggy? My theory: it wasn't about Curry-hatred, not at all. Curry had just won the regular season MVP.
Instead, I think it was a narrative-based award. Iggy was a starter, and a 1-time All Star. Kerr comes in and IMMEDIATELY tells Iggy he wants him to come off the bench instead of start. By all accounts, Iggy wasn't happy about it, but he embraced the team concept, and was an outstanding 6th man. Then, when trailing 2-1 in the Finals (having split a couple of overtime games) and desperately needing a game 4 win, Iggy comes into the starting lineup for the very first time all year. And he played well, and the Warriors won 3 straight.
Meanwhile, Curry had a really bad shooting game in game 2 (though, to be fair, he basically single-handedly brought the Warriors back late in the game to force OT, where they lost) and, even though he shot 10-20 and 7-13 from 3s in game 3, they still lost. Games 4-6, Curry scored 22, 37, and 25, but the narrative was already set: Iggy sacrificed for the good of the team, then, when the team struggled, he came back to the starting lineup, and the series turned around; everyone knows LeBron was really the best player in the series, not Curry, and if we're not going to give it to LeBron, how about the guy who guarded LeBron? The narrative fit together.
Iggy is the first and only Finals MVP you're ever going to see who was outscored by 9.7 points per game by his own teammate, and you'll never see another Finals MVP shoot under 36% on free throws. You can memorize that as a universal law: it'll never happen again.
Barry really changed that title fast, it hasn’t even been three hours 😂
No offense to Aaron Hernandez or Gilbert Arenas lmao
*Shots fired!*
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Thats facts them boys could shoot from the locker room
@@AllucB 😂😂😂😂
the "Fuck the Celtics" description 😂😂😂
i knew that “former” was bound to come some day
All it took was another injury. Shocker there.
@@LetMeEatDem LMAO both the Warriors and Celtics were healthy tho.
@@LetMeEatDem lebron has never faced an injured team ! ! !
@@Theterminato2013 morant injury nuggets were injured
@@eeeee4686 bro that dont matter ja doesnt improve the memphis in the court their defense actually gets higher with him off the court. Nuggets one they were litrally almost swept even when those 2 guys goes back they will do nothing than to bring the game to 6. Those are litrally the 1st and 2nd round as well.
It's amazing how a video like this has a decent like/dislike ratio but the a purely satirical one about MJ gets thousands of dislikes. He truly is a media creation
Just like tom brady
hmm that's strange for some reason I do not see the like/dislike ratio
@@manmeet4804 didnt youtube fuck everyone over with the removal of the visible dislike ratio
@@mallows9779 yea they definitely did & no one even told them to
@@manmeet4804 companies asked them to do it because people were mass disliking videos from large companies and messing with their perception and public image. Should've made it an option for each creator instead of making a site wide thing
Anybody watching this after curry just won finals MVP
who’s here after he updated the title
Damn man really updated the title and description 💀
This video was actually really good. Keep making more like these.
Not it wasn’t ...Lmao no one wants to talk about in 2016 when both teams were healthy and had all of its players 1st 4 games the Warriors was far better than the Cavs was up 3-1 cavs only started winning when Bogut the only rim protector the guy who had 5 blocks game 3 got hurt and was out for the series . Then after that Draymond got suspended then game 6 Iggy was carried off the floor due to injury. this likely prove in 2015 that the Warriors would hv won anyway just like they did Game 1 when Kyrie pretty much played the entire game except last 2 mins of of OT ... funny how it’s okay for cavs to blame injury in 2015 but not the Warriors in 16... not to mention Steph wasn’t himself in 16 due to MCL lingering affects ... KD was a luxury not a need again both rosters healthy and full Warriors proved they were the best team without KD ... being that the only 4 games both teams played with both team all players available Warriors won 3 of 4 of those ...
@@courtneythomas5295 this was a video about steph curry, not the golden state warriors
y o u t u b e c o m m e n t l o g i c
@@puppetstudiosstudios I’m addressing statements in the video that wasn’t true
Steph doesn't get shit on enough for allowing KD to come to the warriors. Dray gets all the blame.
@@diatribeeverything what Steph look like being the only person say nah I don’t want KD when Dray Klay and the GM all wanted him... no leader is going say no to improving his roster looking like a selfish insecure sucker
Mad respect for changing the title lmao 💯
"1 successful hit on Kawhi" LOL
Respect on changing that title.
I like how at 1:17 you put Steph missing that floater to make the case he isn't a clutch player when in that same exact game Curry got the most points in overtime in NBA history (17)
The clips are just visual filler. The real point is the stats. Yes, Steph Curry had an incredible game; but that game was the exception, not the rule
@@Rekcha But like 2015 finals is filled with cluth curry fourth quarters
Curry is not clutch, look up his advanced clutch statistics and it’s just not very good compared to actual good players
LeBron has an argument to fmvp in legit every finals except for 2011
No he doesn’t 😭
@@magicjohnson5733 yes he does 2007 is the only exception
2014 he put up great numbers but he and the heat lost in 5 games and got blown off the floor in the greatest finals margin in NBA history so no😂
Lmao he changed the title 😂
MORE OF THIS!!! I like RUclips Barry the most.
Here after he won FMVP 😔
bro lost his fvcard at age 34
Here right after the 2022 NBA Finals. The title change is warranted. Love you Barry.
@Fries Of course. He was by far the best player on the court, and he only had one bad game. When they were facing a 3-1 deficit, he dropped a career high 43 points and closed out the series with 34 I think? An All Time great performance imo. Well deserved for when he got robbed in 2015, it def should've been him or Lebron.
fastest update I've ever seen goddam, shout out barry
Who’s here after Curry won Finals MVP
I think Steph should’ve won the Finals MVP in 2015. Because I think finals MVP should be on the winning team
We can all agree that Steph was the warriors’ FMVP for sure !
In most cases the FMVP should be from the winners. But (and I'm NOT arguing for LeBron 2015), but if you had a player on the losing side outplaying everyone, where he's the only reason the series is competitive, why not in a case like that? Especially when a series like that is bound to be rare
@@RicardoAGuitar Why didn't Lebron win over Kawhi in 2014 then
@@zaeglo8228 What kind of question is that? First, they said why not make an exception when a player on a losing team is hard carrying. They didn’t say it was stupid that Lebron didn’t get it. But to answer your actual question, Kawhi was the best player on the winning team which will always be the media’s preference. Also, while Lebron was the best player in the series he wasn’t hard carrying as hard as he was in the 2015 finals. Therefore, it’s harder to make an argument that he deserves it when his team lost. In 2015, though, he definitely deserved it
@@Rekcha i don't think taking 2 games deserves fmvp
Barry already changed the title of the video here (just 3-ish hours after Steph just won his first Finals MVP
I didn’t think he would ever actually do it honestly. I’m not complaining though
He fucking updated it lol
Seriously though, more content like this. Good work
Nice update LMAO
Gsw just won a chip as Steph’s team
Don’t show this to flightreacts
Look at Curry man
LMAOO AFTER THE FINALS HE CHANGED THE TITAL
This aged perfectly.
Do an update if he wins or loses 2022 FMVP bro 😎
He changed the title
Lol I immediately thought of this video when he won his first one 🤣
This video DID NOT age well.😂😂
Neither does that recycled comment.
Curry has a finals MVP that most would agree he deserved, but this video does a good job of explaining why it took as many tries as it did.
At long last this video is outdated. Just as god intended XD
Lebron fan saying Curry recruits talent??
LeBron didn't recruit a top 5 player to an already historically dominant team
This is now outdated 😔
Lol with that same argument, you could easily argue that Magic Johnson is the most overrated player of all time. He had a stacked team and on top of that he had Kareem Abdul jabber. Think about it. Kareem is basically the equivalent of Shaq back in the day
Rookie year vs Philly, with Kareem out Game 6, Magic went 42, 15, 7 and 3 steals on 14-23 to close them out. KD tried coming back and went down Game 5 in 2019 and Curry was nowhere to be found in Game 6, even before Klay got hurt
That’s not even the point I’m trying to make. Yes, obviously you can’t win by yourself but to try to make the argument that Magic is overrated because he played with Kareem is absurd. If you don’t like his rookie year Finals, then check the stats on his 1987 FMVP. He was head and shoulders the best player in the series. As stated in the video, Curry has never been that in the Finals. That’s not to take away from the fact that Curry is a great player, but it’s difficult to win FMVP when the other team’s guards are cooking you in every Finals besides 2015.
^* and 2018
Magic won 3/5 of those Finals MVPs, Kareem won 1/5. There's a big difference
Shaq is much better than Kareem.
This aged well
@@cinemapigeon4898 of all the RUclipsrs I’ve seen Barry Mcocknier is definitely one of them
It’s June 16, 2022… this video aged poorly lol
Jinxed yourself man, also what was the previous description again, couldn't remember
Bro updates it like a minute after he won and says fuck the celtics lmao
Guess you gotta delete this now
Steph watched this video and took it personal 😂
Hell nah he mid asf
I’m sure steph curry will cry tears of disappointment at the fact that he will only be considered a top 15-20 all time by basketball fans... and then wipe the tears with money.
Triggered stephew ?
@@Fraudkovic L take when kd wins without his light skins let me know bruh
Is that you Ayesha?
Barry after Warriors won 2022 NBA Finals and Steph was by far the best player: 🤯🤬😰😭
I wouldn’t say by far but okay bro 😂😂
@@PHXNKVHXLIC you sound crazy. He was by far the best player in that series.
@@PHXNKVHXLIC make an argument for any other player lol
@@Kizamusic hell nah he bricked
Nah he bricked
He didn't even mention the entire 2015 playoffs each team they played had there starting point guard out each series they played
The warriors win the championship! Curry will be fmvp! This didn’t age well after all
I feel this video's number of views will increase exponentially from this very moment on.
Who’s here after he finally won fmvp?
Steph is having a really good year this year without Klay and Wiseman so I think that he could easily run a few finals MVP’s if the warriors keep the pieces together and play well in the playoffs.
Edit: He did it 🥳
They lost to suns and he sucked . They’ll choke in the playoffs unless they get injury luck . They and esp Steph always underperforming in playoffs. Enjoy celebrating regular season wins only to lose to ja morant when it matters 😂
@@khalidahmed-qq1qw check the score of last night homeboy. You can’t go 82-0
@@khalidahmed-qq1qw then they beat the suns goofy without their starting lineup they went 1-1 keep crying 😢
if warriors make it to finals klay and wiseman will most likely play. they’re acclimating themselves back to playing at gamespeed in the gleague rn
You’re missing the point, when steph doesn’t have the lead he isn’t nearly as effective.
Stephen curry was robbed in 2015
As a Lebron hater I'll admit I didn't know his teammates shot that badly in the 2015 Finals..
I love the fact you changed the title
Warriors fans (12 year olds, LeBron haters) can't stomach the fact that his 3 rings are worthless
If Curry rings worthless LeBron rings are. LeBron won 3 with superteams and the last one was against a injured team
Steph Curry The G.O.A.T you are dumb
Steph Curry The G.O.A.T yea, because Bosh scoring 0 points in game 7 2013 is a super team. Wade and Bosh averaging 14 ppg in 2014 was a superteam
snatch sniffer Klay Thompson averaged 15 on 39% for the entire 2017 playoffs when the Warriors went 15-1 and Draymond averaged 13. U call that a superteam? Bosh and Wade only did that for one series
Geek Squad but that's the logic y'all dummies use
I would love to see Barry do a colab with urinating tree. That would be funny.
2015 Lebron-39% shooting end of story
Also, I love your content Barry but a team has to be organically grown? The warriors drafted 3/4 superstars (Durant the odd man out) whereas the Heat drafted only Wade while Lebron and Bosh squadded up later. Kinda hypocritical?
Miami was 6th in the East before lebron came. Not 1st place.
@@Red_Ryan_Red still hypocritical. miami added most of their top competitors in the 2010 offseason
Yeah Miami didn’t have a 73 win team before lebron and bosh came and they were subpar after 06 till 2011
@K Why wouldn't you say the 2014 Spurs? There wasn't a big-name free agent on that squad
@K Citing Kawhi Leonard as not homegrown when he didn't play a nanosecond for Indiana is a massive reach
Imagine being a LeBron fan and complaining about a team forming a dream team 🤣🤣🤣
A « dream team » ?
Lmao because an aging Wade and bosh=Best scorer ever, best shooter ever, second best shooter ever, All-NBA versatile defender.
@@hoshangmerzanazar2317 yeah I mean if anybody actually looked Dwayne wade wasn’t playing at anywhere near a superstar level in the playoffs(especially the finals) after Lebrons first year.
But LeBron’s team brightest star was always himself, meanwhile KD came and basically outshined the rest of the Warriors stars. Till this day, KD at the Warriors still feel weird.
Heat.
LMAO BARRY UPDATED IT TO (UPDATED 2022)
Thank you for the change, u the goat Barry
Here after curry won the fmvp, lol
Who's here after he won his first finals MVP against Boston lol
dude bitching about KD when LeMickey did the same thing in Miami
Did LeBron dominate garbage time?
I think people who say this are either trolling or have experience some kind of head trauma
Not only did Steph not win finals mvps in 5 straight finals and not only was his team favored in all 5 finals BUT he arguably was never gonna win finals mvp in any of the 5 finals. 2015: Iggy 2016: Draymond 2017 & 18: KD and 2019: Klay Thompson
U really said that curry wouldnt win the fmvp in 2019?
pedro. k02 He still could have but klay was having his famous game 6 iconic game and if klay play well in game 7, he coulda won finals mvp
I can’t believe steph finally won a finals mvp, I feel like a proud dad.
Adding outside talent makes winning championships artificial..... hmmmmmm I wonder if anyone told that to Miami Heat Lebron
Lebron didn’t join a 73-9 team
Lebron didn’t join the team that just beat him
@@rafikz77 so are we being extremely specific about this situation so that only KD can ever be blamed. Like if the warriors only won 60 games that year instead of 73 would it be different. Or if KD lost to another team
@@vulcanraven9701 Unlike KD it was justified
You want too look up the word context
@@vulcanraven9701 Name NBA players that won without another small teammate? It's a very small list.
Was expecting much more Curry slender given the title of the video, I am pleasantly surprise. But man Curry was robbed in 2015, you can't give it to Lebron because he lost (don't talk about Jerry West, it was NBA prehistory) and Iguodala didn't have a better serie than Curry.
Nice video though, hope you will make more videos like that. Sending you support from France.
@@alexmotts Yes Lebron was the best player but we are talking about the most VALUABLE player not the best. In the 2004's finals Shaq was the best player on the court yet Billups won the final MVP because the word "valuable" is ,in most cases, linked with the word "victorious".
@@alexmotts Lebron lead the series in ass that series? 😂😂😂
@@alexmotts LeBron lead in a ass huh lol ?
@@60MAXPSG Lebron was the most valuable though.
@@yousoldthebag 😆😆
I've been saying your new description for years.
How are you going to blame THE WARRIORS for signing one of the greatest basketball players to ever live??????????????
Exactly he was a FA they had the money why wouldn’t they go after the best FA? lol
It was a coward move
@@courtneythomas5295 because it ruined any parity the league had. That's like if Shaq in 1996 signed with the 72-10 Bulls after losing to them in the ECF. A historically dominant 73-9 Warriors team signing another top 5 player made it unfair for the rest of the league.
That's like Lebron joining the Celtics in 2010 or Shaq joining the Bulls in 1996, it's not illegal but it's not morally correct for you to do so
I will go to my grave thinking if Draymond hadnt been booted out for LeBron stepping over,then it would be 4-1 with GSW winning. Plus it blows my mind that Barry is a Bron stan. Dude hates Brady cause hes overrated yet loves Bron who is also overrated.
Oh wow Draymond nut punching green as if he would make a difference gsw just choked
@Requiem When Draymond came back, Bogut their best rim protector was injured.
@@nellycruzz5838 Dude Bron stepped over him as he was getting up. Go back and watch when they booted him.
@Requiem Well I mean Bogut then got injured,however I do not subscribe to the thought process effecting the game. But on the other hand I do think his paint presscence would have helped a little bit.
@@big_lolo_01 u can clearly see draymond punch him in the nuts
Well he’s not anymore
Fun Fact: Kwame Brown has the same number of NBA finals MVPs as Steph Curry
And Anthony Bennett
And Greg Oden
Stop
Myself have as many FMVP
Not anymore 😂
Put this on context Kevin Durant wouldn’t score wat he scored in the finals if Steph wasn’t there because all the attention he draws. Game plan of Cavs was by all means Stop Steph and let KD do whatever he wants now tell me who was the most valuable player.
LeBron would rather lose fmvp to KD than Steph, he knew that KD already busted his legacy completely, win a finals MVP adds up literally nothing
That doesn’t make you the most valuable player on the team it just means your a great they designed that game plan to have the warriors score less threes
Curry had 3 other star players on his team and still couldn’t out play kd there’s a reason why he doesn’t have a finals mvp
Curry can’t prove that he is the most valuable player on the team especially when he looses a finals and then go cry’s to kd
Lies Durant was and has been putting up big numbers before Steph it’s crazy how people forget how Dominant KD was
9:55 bro were any of lebrons finals wins on teams that were formed “organically”? Every time hes won the finals has been on a team that didn’t draft the majority of its key players. Also funny how he’s saying “it’s supposed to be hard to win a championship, not a cakewalk” when lebron has intentionally made it his mission to make it extremely ez to win the finals every year.
Joins heat superteam
Joins cavs superteam
Tries to form another superteam after kyrie gets traded by picking up Wade Isaiah Thomas, Derrick rose etc, fails miserably
Joins lakers knowing ad will be coming
Tries to convince kawhi and Paul George to join him and ad after acquiring ad via trade
Tries to stack his team as much as possible by trading for Westbrook, getting not only valuable vets but up and coming young players to take vet min deals when they could be getting 10 mill plus a season to have depth as well as two superstars
Apparently those are “organic teams” being formed by drafting players and developing them. I’m not a curry fan or lebron hater btw, I’m not a fan of any one player and not a hater either, I just tell the truth (I actually do share your hate and feelings for Tom Brady however). Lebron has done everything in his power to form unbeatable super teams since he left the Cavs the first time and the warriors just added one player to their team. Lebron even forced the 15 Cavs and the 18/19 lakers to trade away potential “organic developing” players in waiters and lonzo, Ingram, and hart. And so if the warriors rings don’t count how do lebrons?
First ring: Superteam in a lockout year which was supposed to win 10 rings, also faced thunder who’s core was all under the age of 24
Second ring: missed game tying/season ending shot to be bailed out by pop taking Tim Duncan off the floor. Bosh gets rebound, kicks it to Allen to hit the greatest shot in nba history after lebron misses. Also bosh fouls Danny green in ot and gets away with it on final play
Third ring: apparently even tho everyone just shit on love and called him trash and the reason they lost any time they did, he’s so valuable of a player that the series was unfair in 15. Irving also gets hurt. But in 16 when curry has a knee and ankle injury, iguadala has a back injury, bogut misses final 3 games, Draymond’s suspended for the close out game at home when u yourself say he would’ve been the finals mvp, and Harrison Barnes shit the bed all series and misses every open shot he took. Also curry’s teammates shot only 28% from 3 in the finals when he was on the court but it wasn’t fair when lebrons teammates basically did the same in 15. And then even tho curry played insane in 17 and 18 it doesn’t count because it was too unfair and he “maybe wasn’t the best player on his team”. Um so do lebrons heat rings not count since his team was lopsided compared to the opponent?
Or when kyrie debatably outplayed him and saves him by hitting the series winning shot while he watches in the corner
4th ring: widely regarded as still the best player in the nba, has at worst the second best supporting cast that season behind the clippers, along with the second best player in the nba that year with ad. Also benefited from months to rest amid the pandemic, played a losing record blazers in the first round who were Rodney hood and zach Collins-less (cj McCollum also had a broken back), the rockets who had no player over 6’6 on the roster plus led by the worst postseason performing superstar in nba history in james harden, Westbrook who was just left wide open all series and couldn’t make a shot. Conference finals got to avoid the only challenge to them that year in the clippers, faced an inexperienced Denver who had to miraculously come back from 2 3-1 deficits to make it there. Finals: doesn’t play a top 4 seed in the east, plays 5th seeded heat who lost their second all star/2nd best player in bam for pretty much the whole series, lost leading scorer and starting point guard in gragic, best player was butler who’s never even been a top 10 player, second best player was a rookie who was proved his bubble play was a fluke the next year.
Do any of those rings seem valuable?
I didn’t even talk about his losses or the fact that he cruised thru the worst conference of all time for every year except 2020 and 21 and nearly lost to a pacers team multiple times when their best player was a pre prime pg and their second best player was lance fuckin Stephenson/Roy hibbert. Also just lost first round in the west in the first real season in that conference and had help
@Judge Jerry Poppins 1. This is a common misconception, the 17 warriors were not the 16 warriors +KD. One of the biggest reasons for their dominance in 15 and 16 was that they could go to any man on the bench and they’d be a good player. They had ridiculous depth. They sacrificed nearly all of that to add durant. The only guys they kept was curry Klay green igoudala and Livingston. That’s not adding KD to the 73-9 warriors, as they were a very top heavy team in his time there, since they gave up all depth to get him.
2. There have been plenty of teams since 2000 that were formed and thought to have been unbeatable. The 04 lakers, the 2013 lakers, the 14 nets. The durant move gs obviously seemed like the most insane team of all time had been formed but the only reason that is the case is because the big 3 heat didn’t work out like they were supposed too. I know that most people on the internet have memory loss or just weren’t following the nba until a few years ago but the reason the world went absolutely insane when they formed was because when lebron said they would win 7+ championships, It didn’t seem that crazy at the time. They just assembled the best sf, arguably the best sg, and at minimum a top 3 pf in the league all in their primes. That was crazier than the 17 warriors for a few reasons, one being that most people have lebron as the 2nd greatest ever at minimum and he was in his prime, Wade who is the 3rd greatest sg ever who was in his prime, and bosh who again was a top 3 pf in the league and a hofer who was also in his prime. Meanwhile there was no team in the nba that could come close to that level of talent. On the other hand, the 17 warriors had the 17 Cavs who again had lebron kyrie (who everyone said was better than curry at the time) and love compared to curry (who at the time was being called the third best pg behind Westbrook and kyrie) Klay who most people would say was never a top 10 player, KD who isn’t a top 10 player all time and is only the 3rd greatest sf ever, and Draymond (who everyone called overrated and trash until they signed KD then he was called a 4th all star to make it seem like the gap between the teams was that unfair.)
3. Lebron forming the Cavs superteam while being the best player in the league, love being the best pf in the league, and kyrie being a top 3 pg in the league was expected to once again dominate the nba because no other team had that level of star power. The only reason everyone overlooks lebron forming this superteam is because he was “coming home” which made it ok since he returned to the team he abandoned. In reality, he never would’ve returned if they couldn’t have gotten love and formed the superteam. Anyways, the warriors had curry who was only a 1x all star, Klay who was a 0x all star, and Draymond who wasn’t even a starter before that season. No one knew the warriors would become what they did but since we have hindsight, we act as though they were evenly matched going into the 15 season when in reality, the Cavs were expected to cruise to a finals win before the season began. And the only reason love and bosh didn’t make those super teams as insane as the could’ve been is because lebron couldn’t play with them at their best. He cant fit on a team unless there’s shooting everywhere so, the superstars in their primes had to be relegated to 3rd option spot up catch and shoot in the corner bigs. But then they’d catch all the blame when lebrons team loses since their supposed to be the third superstar, but the only reason they were “underperforming” was because they had to due to lebrons play style and needs.
You done crying yet. For such a none Bron hater, you sure took the time to incorrectly try to invalidate all his rings.
@@tonj02 Heat were not a super team before LeBron joined. LeBron and Bosh helped make them a super team. That's the difference from what KD did by joining an already established super team. Not sure why you're not understanding that part.
@@the757general2 people just say anything in the NBA community lol
Time to update
I'm gonna say it bc I don't think I've heard anyone else say it, but when KD came back in 2019 he was having an amazing game no one can say otherwise. I do believe had he not got hurt he would've not only won the series and finals mvp but I do believe it is possible that none of the OG 3 or KD is in golden state today.
Steph, Klay, and Draymond would still be on Golden State, there still there now
I have a few disagreements here. For starters sorry lebron didn’t deserve finals mvp in 2015 because they lost and that’s just how I feel. Next I don’t think u can hold injuries in 2015 against Steph and the warriors because injuries happens. Just like in 2019 u shouldn’t hold that loss against Steph. Now for here in 2022 Steph really proved that bit only he can be the best player on a team and now in my opinion a top 10 player ever
Kyrie deserved the 2016 FinalsMVP
@@LM-he7eb no he didn’t
@@samuelwilliams6154 He did, He proved time & time again that Lebron couldn't do much in the finals without him. He dropped 40, like it was 10. He scored the winning goal too
@@LM-he7eb lebron had one of the best series ever and had the best 3 game stretch and okay kyrie hit the shot but lebron had the block
@@samuelwilliams6154 Oh, the exaggerated block. Y'all act like Bron is Dikembe
Well if the warriors pull this one out the title of this video is going to have to change
Bill Russell *shows a picture of Morgan Freeman* 🤣 I almost fell for it
Great video. I’d love to hear about the Kd and KL rabbit holes too
Kawhi has one of the best playoff runs of all times under his belt while kd joined the goat team and is the best player in the world while healthy all of a sudden he’s a giant pussy before he’s the best player of all time
As a LeBron fan Barry isn’t allowed to admit Kawhi is LeBron’s biological father and has been since 2014
@@tipaps so what happened in the Bubble?
@@Zuri_SM Paul George laid an egg and the rest of the Clippers played like a bad g league team. Kawhi averaged 30 on great splits. Terrible series. Every star has had them. Kawhi is LeBron’s dad and demonstrates this every time they play each other lol.
@@tipaps you don't get to be better than someone by only performing well against that said player (especially considering only 2 matchups have happened in the playoffs and they are tied at 1-1). Lebron has been dominant against almost every team and player in the league. Kawhi has struggled in back to back years when he is supposed to be the leader and #1 guy on his team without joining a system and coach already set in stone. lebron is the system and coach. different levels to greatness, and Kawhi simply isn't that guy that yall want him to be. he is 29, and looks to be past his best days as a player. lebron is 36 and is still better than kawhi when healthy.
also, kawhi did not average 30 on great splits vs the nuggets. he averaged 24 points on 44, 36, 87 splits. yall seem to forget the bad 14 point game he had which prevented the clippers from sweeping the nuggets, instead capping the series off at 3-1 and allowing a comeback in the first place. kawhi was the favorite to win the west and got a pass for blowing a 3-1 lead. now he is down 3-2 to luka and a bunch of role players after having a terrible game (turnovers in the clutch, air balled 3 with time on the clock). you should be less worried about lebron, and more worried about Kawhi's dad, Luka Doncic (even though kawhi is playing an injured Luka for the 2nd year straight lol).
They said it was not illegal to sign Kevin Durant but these same people cried about Lebron leaving a bad team to join a better team.
the warriors 2015 title shouldnt lose respect because the other team got injured tf they gonna do play down to there skill level its honestly the dumbest thing ive heard in a min
The tons of grammatical errors in your comment is the dumbest thing I’ve read in a minute.
Truth nukes tbh
This video needs more attention
Well done sir. I’ve been arguing these points for years.
I wish he will win finals mvp
Yes Durant joining the warriors ruined a potential great rivalry but its still his career and he can do whatever he wants and yes it annoys me he did it but at the same time no.
Its your body and you can do whatever you want but if you walk into an a crowded elevator and let one rip I'm going to be judging you for as far as I can throw you
The warriors were a bitch for their hamptons shenanigans, and I wonder why Durant wasn't like, "wait a minute, why the fuck are you guys trying to solicit ME? I almost BEAT you with Russell WESTBRICK. HELL no!" And then join another potential contender and take payback on the Warriors there, now that would have been epic. Instead the Warriors just stack the deck for a opponent they should have beat, and Durant joined the team that beat him and kept him from making himself one of the most respected players ever if he somehow managed to win it all as well. These are just weak moves. I know you should try to make your team as good as possible and not handicap yourself on purpose, but they should have raced each other to the championship instead of drawing arbitrary cooperation. Goes against the spirit of sports imo
At least they are paying for it in the court of public opinion
@@Janon743 💤
@@tombradydid9114 TLDR it might be "his career" but you can still judge and there are plenty of reasons to do so
Wow, thanks for the update.
Who cares about finals mvp if you won 3 out of 4 rings lol
It's important to All Time Greats Legacy. Scottie has 6 rings, but isn't considered Top 20. It means MOST OF THE TIME that you were the most impactful player on the floor. There's a reason why Skip quotes "MJ had 6 rings with 6 FMVPS".
@@ericdupree8603 you’re miserable. kiss the rings.
Because every consensus top 10 all-time player has at least one Finals MVP with the exception of Bill Russell as the award wasn't a thing until his final season in the league (the award was named after him for a reason). Steph has to win at least one Finals MVP before he gets any serious top 10 discussion. I'm not even sure if he's top 15.
Ranking the biggest bitch moves in sports history:
1. KD to Golden State
2. Lebron and Bosh to Miami
* Keep up the good work. You’re my new favorite RUclips channel.
Well it seems this could be the year for Steph. Warriors are looking good and far from being a super team.
Untill playoffs stephews then ja morant smack them
They not getting past the suns
@@ghostballs1874 lol
@@ghostballs1874 Look at you.
@@biikobeats easy to come along after the fact not my fault the suns choked
Lebron did a same bitch move going to Miami but either way. How about this ring?
Rodman also did the same b*tch move going to chicago
LeBron joined a 47-35 team
KD joined a 73-9 team
I wouldn’t call it the same bitch move lol
@@jman1515 It's the same. You guys always talk about how 73-9 is meaningless. But, when it comes to the KD saga, it becomes meaningful. Rodman went from the Pistons to the Bulls too
@@LM-he7eb 73-9 isn’t meaningless it’s just the fact that they didn’t win a ring. Also Rodman got to the bulls because MJ recruited him.
@@LM-he7eb Also how is it the same?
Tbh steph wasn’t the reason at all the warriors lost in 2019 not only was kd injuries but so was klay which put all the pressure on curry to carry the offense and he kept it close even with the double teams he faced and let’s be honest curry has faced a lot of double teams in his career take 2018 for example curry faced around 30-40 double teams while kd faced 2 and since kd’s signing curry has had a much better record without kd then kd has without curry if anything kd signing with gs didn’t ruin steph at all cuz no matter how u spin it kd needed curry not only does curry take the pressure away from kd but curry fit him much more then Russ did and even with Russ be named the reason the thunder never won we can’t forget kd was the one to fold during that series not Russ with kd in gs he was put in an amazing situation where he had great players to take away the pressure but that also put him in a favorable situation where he’d be made the hero of the team when they win but no looked at or blamed when they lose even tho it’s quiet clear he can’t carry like other stars can and this year is a real test to that as he now has James harden underperforming and Kyrie not playing we now get to see if kd can take this team far
How was there not a single punctuation mark in that entire paragraph? I’m not even trying to be rude when I say it makes it hard to read. Also, he says in the video Steph played well in 2019 so I’m pretty sure you just didn’t listen at that part.
@@Rekcha “this finals didn’t necessarily hurt currys legacy the way 2016 finals did” implying it hurt his legacy which is beyond a terrible statement and it’s not that hard to read if ur the only one who had a hard time reading my comments when everyone else perfectly reads and understands me
@@chancebatts4841 No one else responded, so how do you know they understood? They can see in the first few words that you’re supporting Steph and they might just like it based on that. To the current point, he said KD and Klay being injured were the biggest reasons they lost. And, most importantly, him saying “it didn’t NECESSARILY hurt his legacy like 2016” implies the 2019 finals was just neutral for his legacy, not that it hurt it. So, you are commenting hard-to-read paragraphs for no reason.
@@Rekcha necessarily doesn’t make wut he said mean it didn’t hurt him the main part of wut he said is that it didn’t hurt as much as 2016 did meaning that it hurt somewhat and in an open comment section i can say whatever I want so me making my point isn’t for no reason but u trying to argue with me is so have a nice day
The advanced stats say Steph is more valuable then KD, KD might be a better player but the system relies on curry and the reason KD was able to be so efficient is steps gravity
You literally did not explain why steph did not win FMVP in 2015. The only thing you did was saying "the finals should have been easy for the warriors" and "lebron was better". Don't get me wrong. I agree with those things but you never compared Stephs Stats to Iguodalas Stats, who actually won the FMVP. And the video is about Steph and NOT Lebron
I like the new title although I've lost my best way of making fun of steph 😔
U say facts but it’s clear ur one sided and take away what he’s done bc of ur opinion u clearly favor lebron do better