This is a recording of J G Bennet discussing the importance of self-remembering. For more material about J G Bennett click on this link: www.jgbennett....
JGB was, imv, far ahead of any of my professors in addressing our generation's real issues, including identity, how to lead a good, balanced life, how to contribute to preparing for the looming environmental crisis - then being analysed at Harvard in their pioneering 'Limits to Growth' model. At 22, at Oxford, reading PPE, I felt privileged to drive to Aldsworth (near Sherborne) for his weekly afternoon dialogue with about 20-25 Beshara students. An enduring realisation was need for annual conferences of Sherborne and Beshara students to take stock and encourage each other to contribute to meeting / solving the environmental crisis. Just as sufi schools had helped us through earlier human crises. About which JGB was then writing up in his last book 'The Masters of Wisdom'. Interested in hearing if anyone knows of anything like this.
I don’t think anyone would want to limit it with some formulation, but the following is the recollection of George Adie: “ I am going to tell you of a scene at the table with Mr. Gurdjieff. He sat down, we were all there together, he turned and asked me: “You understand what self-remembering means?” I answered him, I said: “Maybe I don’t understand.” “Ah!” said Mr. Gurdjieff, “Repeat so the others can hear.” I repeated, “Maybe I don’t understand.” He said: “From today, you are my brother.” I share that with you. It is a very real question to be kept alive, what does it mean to remember yourself? - But it may help some that remember is the opposite of dismember. It is plainly something that the ordinary mind that those*all*about that, simply cannot understand. The work being the way of questioning one would be reluctant to do or say anything that would kill the question what is it mean to remember yourself with some lifeless formulation. By moments it is more or less possible; can I remain with this question as an alive question? As Krishnamurti said: “the state of not knowing*is*intelligence”. Intelligence cannot come from below, I have to search for it.
Self remembering is pretty literal really But if I say there is a needle in a haystack and you have to find it, that's also pretty simple in essence Stick your hand in and look, but how long before you give up ? Without others around you to keep you focused on looking P.S. that is why the phrase "like finding a needle in a Haystack" exists and was handed down via regurgitating cortexes over many thousands of years
@@gratefulkm If Self-remembering is the opposite of self-forgetting, an instructive question to ask is which self is being forgotten? It surely cannot be the selves or I's we are already familiar with.
@@raycosmic9019 memory is a thing that happened to your biology , You can choose to live in your memory or you can choose to not, Both choices are not everlasting, but they can be with determination There are biological failures that prevents you accessing your memory , but that is not our focus here You can imagine you forgot , but in normal biological functioning there is no forgetting anything, that's a delusion a myth, Self is the whole physical being, if I break my leg, I don't ask what imaginary category of my leg did I break
@@raycosmic9019 there are not limits numpty , unless you imagine them :) You seem to suffer from as the great Nasser mullah Nadeen's decedents would regurgitate "letting your imagination run away with itself"
Self-remembering is the opposite of being identified. When you taste it you will know. To know it for yourself you must struggle with an "I" when it has its moment. This might be, for example, you are pissed off about something, someone or whatever. You are in a bad mood, or irritated. When you see or notice this state you are in through self-observation, you must completely stop it at once. This might take you a few minutes to do. But it must be completely stopped and the "I" completely silenced. If you are successful a moment of self-remembering will be rewarded to you. Do not take yourself away from the situation, stay around that person or people or event, but completely stop yourself being identified with it,that, those whatever it is. When we self-remember it is totally obvious that the state of being identified is complete slavery and ridiculous. We identify with everything and people are ready to kill for their identity. The "I's" in us are those that identify.
The first book is by Bennett, an Englishman, a perfect Englishman. The book is about an absolutely unknown Indian mystic, Shivapuri Baba. The world has come to know about him only through Bennett’s book. Shivapuri Baba was certainly one of the rarest flowerings, particularly in India where so many idiots are pretending to be mahatmas. To find a man like Shivapuri Baba in India is really either luck or else a tremendous work of research. There are five hundred thousand mahatmas in India; that is the actual number. To find a real man among this crowd is almost impossible. But Bennett was fortunate in many ways. He was also the first man to discover Gurdjieff. It was neither Ouspensky nor Nicoll, nor anyone other than Bennett. Bennett found Gurdjieff in a refugee camp in Constantinople. Those were the days of the Russian Revolution. Gurdjieff had to leave Russia; on the way he was shot twice before he escaped. Our styles are different, but in a strange way destiny may play the same game again…. Gurdjieff in a refugee camp! - just thinking of it, I can’t believe humanity can fall so low. Putting a Buddha, or Gurdjieff, Jesus or Bodhidharma in a refugee camp…. When Bennett discovered him, Gurdjieff was standing in a food queue. The food was given only once a day, and the queue was long. There were thousands of refugees who had left Russia because the communists were murdering people without any consideration who they were murdering, or for what. You will be surprised to know they murdered almost ten million Russians. How did Bennett discover Gurdjieff? Gurdjieff sitting among his disciples would not be difficult to recognize, but Bennett recognized him in dirty rotten clothes, unwashed for many days. How did he recognize him in that queue? Those eyes, you cannot hide them. Those eyes… whether the man is sitting on a golden throne, or standing in a refugee camp, they are the same. Bennett brought Gurdjieff to the West. Nobody thanks poor Bennett for it, and there is a reason… it is because he was a wavering kind of person. Bennett never betrayed Gurdjieff while he was alive… he did not dare. Those eyes were too much; he had twice seen their tremendous impact. He reports in his book on Gurdjieff - which is not a great book, that is why I am not going to count it, but I am just referring to it - Bennett says, “I came to Gurdjieff tired and exhausted after a long journey. I was sick, very sick, thinking I was going to die. I had come to see him only so that before I die I could see those two eyes again… my last experience.” He came to Gurdjieff’s room. Gurdjieff looked at him, stood up, came close and hugged him. Bennett could not believe it… it was not Gurdjieff’s way. If he had slapped him that would have been more expected, but he hugged him! But there was more to the hug… the moment Gurdjieff touched him, Bennett felt a tremendous upsurge of energy. At the same time he saw Gurdjieff turning pale. Gurdjieff sat down; then with great difficulty stood up and went to the bathroom, saying to Bennett, “Don’t be worried, just wait for ten minutes and I will be back, the same as ever.” Bennett says, “I have never felt such a wellbeing, such health, such power. It seemed I could do anything.” It is felt by many people who take drugs - LSD or marijuana and other drugs - that under their impact they feel they can do anything. One woman thought she could fly, so she flew out of a window on the thirtieth floor of a New York building… you can conclude what happened… not even pieces of the woman were found. Bennett says, “I felt I could do everything. At that moment I understood the famous statement by Napoleon: ‘Nothing is impossible.’ I not only understood it but felt I could do anything I wanted. But I knew it was Gurdjieff’s compassion. I was dying, and he had saved me.” This happened twice… again a few years later. In the East this is called ‘the transmission’; the energy can jump from one flame to another lamp which is dying. Even though such great experiences happened to him, Bennett was a wavering man. He could not waver and betray like Ouspensky, but when Gurdjieff died, then he betrayed. He started looking for another master. What a misfortune! - I mean misfortune for Bennett. It was good for others, because that was how he came to find Shivapuri Baba. But Shivapuri Baba, howsoever great, is nothing compared to Gurdjieff. I cannot believe it of Bennett… and he was a scientist, a mathematician… only that gives me the clue. The scientist has almost always behaved foolishly outside his own specific field. I always define science as “knowing more and more about less and less,” and religion as “knowing less and less about more and more.” The culmination of science will be knowing everything about nothing, and the culmination of religion will be knowing all… not knowing about all, simply knowing… not about - just knowing. Science will end in ignorance; religion will end in enlightenment. All the scientists, even the great ones, have proved foolish in many ways outside their specific field. They behave childishly. Bennett was a scientist and mathematician of a certain standing, but he wavered, he missed. He started looking for another master again. And it is not that he remained with Shivapuri either. Shivapuri Baba was a very old man when Bennett met him. He was almost one hundred and ten years old. He was really made of steel. He lived for almost one and a half centuries. He was seven feet tall and one hundred and fifty years old and still there was no sign that he was going to die. He decided to leave the body, it was his decision. shivapuri-baba Shivapuri was a silent man, he did not teach. Particularly a man who had known Gurdjieff and his tremendous teaching would find it very ordinary to be with Shivapuri Baba. Bennett wrote his book and started searching again for a master. Shivapuri Baba was not even dead yet. Then, in Indonesia, Bennett found Mohammed Subud, the founder of the movement called Subud. ‘Subud’ is a short form of Sushil-Buddha-Dharma; it is just the first letter of these three words. What foolishness! Bennett started introducing Mohammed Subud, a very good man, but not a master… nothing even compared to Shivpuri Baba… no question arises about Gurdjieff. Bennett brought Mohammed Subud to the West, and started introducing him as the successor to Gurdjieff. Now this is utter stupidity…. But Bennett writes beautifully, mathematically, systematically. His best book is Shivapuri Baba. Although Bennett was a fool, even if you allow a monkey to sit at a typewriter once in a while he may come upon something beautiful - perhaps a statement which only a buddha could make - just by knocking the typewriter keys here and there. But he will not understand what he has written. Bennett continued in this way. Soon he became disillusioned with Mohammed Subud and started searching for yet another master. Poor fellow, his whole life he was searching and searching unnecessarily. He had already found the right man in Gurdjieff. He has written about Gurdjieff, and what he says is beautiful, efficient, but his heart is dark, there is no light in it. Still, I count his book as one of the best. You can see that I am impartial."
John G. Bennett met Gurdjieff in Turkey (circa 1962-1963) at a dinner arranged by theosophically inclined Turkish Prince Sabaheddin. Not in a refugee camp. Bennett's best book is not about Shivapuri Baba. Please check your feedback before writing such mushy nonsense.
@@raycosmic9019 You are not remembering anything if you are aware of being aware, That's the state of passing dominance from your imagination to your feelings , Now go for a walk through your memories and remember who you are ? What made you Not my instinct brain , is looking at my emotional brain that's looking at my noise brain
@@raycosmic9019do you always just repeat words endlessly with no real instruction ? drill down into what you are teaching, explain it a bit more Describe each stage and what part of your internal apparatus it affects Show me your knowledge or just endlessly repeating words in a parrot fashion because if you were of your doings then you would recognize clear inability to respond to anything i say , there is no deviation , their is nothing alive responding, its asleep
Gurdjieff Works cannot be undertaken by yourself, just by listening to a recording or video. His work cannot be undertaken by reading alone. Gurdjieff was very clear that you must be involved in a work-study-group where the teacher has access to your nature, your attitudes, habits, and your belief system. The physical exercising you are doing is nice but will not increase your consciousness. Many of my students were involved in Gurdjieff’s groups and one thing was common, it’s all intellectual and non-emotional. Unfortunately, without emotions growth is impossible.
I have been in Gurdjieff Work for many decades and with a different teacher, Wm. Nyland. However, I completely agree with the comment below and with the Gurdjieffian tendency to speak in abstractions that are formulatory word salads that create a lot of unnecessary mental baggage. For a good explanation of self remembering that is clear, direct and accessible to one as a direct experience see Rupert Spira: ruclips.net/video/ByFvAKdKeRA/видео.html.
He spent the entire time describing the parameters, the context, the reason for it but he still hasn't described what IS self remembering and how do you do it. The usual obfuscation of Gurdjieffian teachers. I have to assume he does not know.
It's essentially a different linguistic interpretation of what we typically call mindfulness. Being engaged in the current moment and making yourself aware of your presence and your place within the external world.
JG Bennett was kicked out of Ouspensky's groups, de Salzmann separated from him. And he cheated on all his wives. He flittered from tradtiion to tradtion, teacher to teacher, never stuck with anything. Here he says precisely nothing about what self-remembering is or how to do it. But he sounds very very important.
Gurdjieff wasn't even able to drive a car without killing himself and he loved driving like that. He had plenty of children he didnt take care of. He never comitted himself to a woman. And he separated himself from plenty of his friends and pupils. He also seemingly mixed all kinds of traditions.
This is a talk to the students at Sherborne house, on one of the remarkable 10 month residential courses.. Most of us who were able to be there for one of the courses, were given a small seedling from his tree of wisdom, that with care has, for each of us, grown into a balanced life.. he was remarkable in his humility, his presence, & his ability to articulate from his deep life as a mystic & a genius in his time.. gratitude
JGB was, imv, far ahead of any of my professors in addressing our generation's real issues, including identity, how to lead a good, balanced life, how to contribute to preparing for the looming environmental crisis - then being analysed at Harvard in their pioneering 'Limits to Growth' model. At 22, at Oxford, reading PPE, I felt privileged to drive to Aldsworth (near Sherborne) for his weekly afternoon dialogue with about 20-25 Beshara students.
An enduring realisation was need for annual conferences of Sherborne and Beshara students to take stock and encourage each other to contribute to meeting / solving the environmental crisis. Just as sufi schools had helped us through earlier human crises. About which JGB was then writing up in his last book 'The Masters of Wisdom'. Interested in hearing if anyone knows of anything like this.
Lovely that. Beautiful old fashioned diction.
I don’t think anyone would want to limit it with some formulation, but the following is the recollection of George Adie: “ I am going to tell you of a scene at the table with Mr. Gurdjieff. He sat down, we were all there together, he turned and asked me: “You understand what self-remembering means?” I answered him, I said: “Maybe I don’t understand.” “Ah!” said Mr. Gurdjieff, “Repeat so the others can hear.” I repeated, “Maybe I don’t understand.” He said: “From today, you are my brother.” I share that with you.
It is a very real question to be kept alive, what does it mean to remember yourself? - But it may help some that remember is the opposite of dismember.
It is plainly something that the ordinary mind that those*all*about that, simply cannot understand.
The work being the way of questioning one would be reluctant to do or say anything that would kill the question what is it mean to remember yourself with some lifeless formulation. By moments it is more or less possible; can I remain with this question as an alive question?
As Krishnamurti said: “the state of not knowing*is*intelligence”.
Intelligence cannot come from below, I have to search for it.
Self remembering is pretty literal really
But if I say there is a needle in a haystack and you have to find it, that's also pretty simple in essence
Stick your hand in and look, but how long before you give up ?
Without others around you to keep you focused on looking
P.S. that is why the phrase "like finding a needle in a Haystack" exists and was handed down via regurgitating cortexes over many thousands of years
@@gratefulkm If Self-remembering is the opposite of self-forgetting, an instructive question to ask is which self is being forgotten? It surely cannot be the selves or I's we are already familiar with.
@@raycosmic9019 memory is a thing that happened to your biology ,
You can choose to live in your memory or you can choose to not,
Both choices are not everlasting, but they can be with determination
There are biological failures that prevents you accessing your memory , but that is not our focus here
You can imagine you forgot , but in normal biological functioning there is no forgetting anything, that's a delusion a myth,
Self is the whole physical being,
if I break my leg, I don't ask what imaginary category of my leg did I break
@@gratefulkm how is that self-limiting perspective working out for you? Is everything as you would have it in your daily Life?
@@raycosmic9019 there are not limits numpty , unless you imagine them :)
You seem to suffer from as the great Nasser mullah Nadeen's decedents would regurgitate "letting your imagination run away with itself"
Thank you for posting this. Great Quality.
Self-remembering is the opposite of being identified. When you taste it you will know. To know it for yourself you must struggle with an "I" when it has its moment. This might be, for example, you are pissed off about something, someone or whatever. You are in a bad mood, or irritated. When you see or notice this state you are in through self-observation, you must completely stop it at once. This might take you a few minutes to do. But it must be completely stopped and the "I" completely silenced. If you are successful a moment of self-remembering will be rewarded to you. Do not take yourself away from the situation, stay around that person or people or event, but completely stop yourself being identified with it,that, those whatever it is.
When we self-remember it is totally obvious that the state of being identified is complete slavery and ridiculous. We identify with everything and people are ready to kill for their identity. The "I's" in us are those that identify.
The first book is by Bennett, an Englishman, a perfect Englishman. The book is about an absolutely unknown Indian mystic, Shivapuri Baba. The world has come to know about him only through Bennett’s book.
Shivapuri Baba was certainly one of the rarest flowerings, particularly in India where so many idiots are pretending to be mahatmas. To find a man like Shivapuri Baba in India is really either luck or else a tremendous work of research. There are five hundred thousand mahatmas in India; that is the actual number. To find a real man among this crowd is almost impossible.
But Bennett was fortunate in many ways. He was also the first man to discover Gurdjieff. It was neither Ouspensky nor Nicoll, nor anyone other than Bennett. Bennett found Gurdjieff in a refugee camp in Constantinople. Those were the days of the Russian Revolution. Gurdjieff had to leave Russia; on the way he was shot twice before he escaped. Our styles are different, but in a strange way destiny may play the same game again….
Gurdjieff in a refugee camp! - just thinking of it, I can’t believe humanity can fall so low. Putting a Buddha, or Gurdjieff, Jesus or Bodhidharma in a refugee camp…. When Bennett discovered him, Gurdjieff was standing in a food queue. The food was given only once a day, and the queue was long. There were thousands of refugees who had left Russia because the communists were murdering people without any consideration who they were murdering, or for what. You will be surprised to know they murdered almost ten million Russians.
How did Bennett discover Gurdjieff? Gurdjieff sitting among his disciples would not be difficult to recognize, but Bennett recognized him in dirty rotten clothes, unwashed for many days. How did he recognize him in that queue? Those eyes, you cannot hide them. Those eyes… whether the man is sitting on a golden throne, or standing in a refugee camp, they are the same. Bennett brought Gurdjieff to the West.
Nobody thanks poor Bennett for it, and there is a reason… it is because he was a wavering kind of person. Bennett never betrayed Gurdjieff while he was alive… he did not dare. Those eyes were too much; he had twice seen their tremendous impact. He reports in his book on Gurdjieff - which is not a great book, that is why I am not going to count it, but I am just referring to it - Bennett says, “I came to Gurdjieff tired and exhausted after a long journey. I was sick, very sick, thinking I was going to die. I had come to see him only so that before I die I could see those two eyes again… my last experience.”
He came to Gurdjieff’s room. Gurdjieff looked at him, stood up, came close and hugged him. Bennett could not believe it… it was not Gurdjieff’s way. If he had slapped him that would have been more expected, but he hugged him! But there was more to the hug… the moment Gurdjieff touched him, Bennett felt a tremendous upsurge of energy. At the same time he saw Gurdjieff turning pale. Gurdjieff sat down; then with great difficulty stood up and went to the bathroom, saying to Bennett, “Don’t be worried, just wait for ten minutes and I will be back, the same as ever.”
Bennett says, “I have never felt such a wellbeing, such health, such power. It seemed I could do anything.”
It is felt by many people who take drugs - LSD or marijuana and other drugs - that under their impact they feel they can do anything. One woman thought she could fly, so she flew out of a window on the thirtieth floor of a New York building… you can conclude what happened… not even pieces of the woman were found.
Bennett says, “I felt I could do everything. At that moment I understood the famous statement by Napoleon: ‘Nothing is impossible.’ I not only understood it but felt I could do anything I wanted. But I knew it was Gurdjieff’s compassion. I was dying, and he had saved me.”
This happened twice… again a few years later. In the East this is called ‘the transmission’; the energy can jump from one flame to another lamp which is dying. Even though such great experiences happened to him, Bennett was a wavering man. He could not waver and betray like Ouspensky, but when Gurdjieff died, then he betrayed.
He started looking for another master. What a misfortune! - I mean misfortune for Bennett. It was good for others, because that was how he came to find Shivapuri Baba. But Shivapuri Baba, howsoever great, is nothing compared to Gurdjieff. I cannot believe it of Bennett… and he was a scientist, a mathematician… only that gives me the clue. The scientist has almost always behaved foolishly outside his own specific field.
I always define science as “knowing more and more about less and less,” and religion as “knowing less and less about more and more.” The culmination of science will be knowing everything about nothing, and the culmination of religion will be knowing all… not knowing about all, simply knowing… not about - just knowing. Science will end in ignorance; religion will end in enlightenment.
All the scientists, even the great ones, have proved foolish in many ways outside their specific field. They behave childishly. Bennett was a scientist and mathematician of a certain standing, but he wavered, he missed. He started looking for another master again. And it is not that he remained with Shivapuri either.
Shivapuri Baba was a very old man when Bennett met him. He was almost one hundred and ten years old. He was really made of steel. He lived for almost one and a half centuries. He was seven feet tall and one hundred and fifty years old and still there was no sign that he was going to die. He decided to leave the body, it was his decision.
shivapuri-baba
Shivapuri was a silent man, he did not teach. Particularly a man who had known Gurdjieff and his tremendous teaching would find it very ordinary to be with Shivapuri Baba. Bennett wrote his book and started searching again for a master. Shivapuri Baba was not even dead yet.
Then, in Indonesia, Bennett found Mohammed Subud, the founder of the movement called Subud. ‘Subud’ is a short form of Sushil-Buddha-Dharma; it is just the first letter of these three words. What foolishness! Bennett started introducing Mohammed Subud, a very good man, but not a master… nothing even compared to Shivpuri Baba… no question arises about Gurdjieff. Bennett brought Mohammed Subud to the West, and started introducing him as the successor to Gurdjieff. Now this is utter stupidity….
But Bennett writes beautifully, mathematically, systematically. His best book is Shivapuri Baba. Although Bennett was a fool, even if you allow a monkey to sit at a typewriter once in a while he may come upon something beautiful - perhaps a statement which only a buddha could make - just by knocking the typewriter keys here and there. But he will not understand what he has written.
Bennett continued in this way. Soon he became disillusioned with Mohammed Subud and started searching for yet another master. Poor fellow, his whole life he was searching and searching unnecessarily. He had already found the right man in Gurdjieff. He has written about Gurdjieff, and what he says is beautiful, efficient, but his heart is dark, there is no light in it. Still, I count his book as one of the best. You can see that I am impartial."
John G. Bennett met Gurdjieff in Turkey (circa 1962-1963) at a dinner arranged by theosophically inclined Turkish Prince Sabaheddin. Not in a refugee camp. Bennett's best book is not about Shivapuri Baba. Please check your feedback before writing such mushy nonsense.
Thanks for this
Hardest thing to do in the world.
Self-Remembering = Being aware of being aware.
nope
@@gratefulkmYep! Let those with the eyes to see and ears to hear do so.
@@raycosmic9019 You are not remembering anything if you are aware of being aware, That's the state of passing dominance from your imagination to your feelings ,
Now go for a walk through your memories and remember who you are ?
What made you
Not my instinct brain , is looking at my emotional brain that's looking at my noise brain
@@gratefulkm be aware of being aware and you will know for yourself why it is called Self-remembering.
@@raycosmic9019do you always just repeat words endlessly with no real instruction ? drill down into what you are teaching, explain it a bit more
Describe each stage and what part of your internal apparatus it affects
Show me your knowledge or just endlessly repeating words in a parrot fashion
because if you were of your doings then you would recognize clear inability to respond to anything i say , there is no deviation , their is nothing alive responding, its asleep
Gurdjieff Works cannot be undertaken by yourself, just by listening to a recording or video. His work cannot be undertaken by reading alone. Gurdjieff was very clear that you must be involved in a work-study-group where the teacher has access to your nature, your attitudes, habits, and your belief system. The physical exercising you are doing is nice but will not increase your consciousness. Many of my students were involved in Gurdjieff’s groups and one thing was common, it’s all intellectual and non-emotional. Unfortunately, without emotions growth is impossible.
I have been in Gurdjieff Work for many decades and with a different teacher, Wm. Nyland. However, I completely agree with the comment below and with the Gurdjieffian tendency to speak in abstractions that are formulatory word salads that create a lot of unnecessary mental baggage. For a good explanation of self remembering that is clear, direct and accessible to one as a direct
experience see Rupert Spira: ruclips.net/video/ByFvAKdKeRA/видео.html.
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He spent the entire time describing the parameters, the context, the reason for it but he still hasn't described what IS self remembering and how do you do it. The usual obfuscation of Gurdjieffian teachers. I have to assume he does not know.
to be conscious thats it
It's essentially a different linguistic interpretation of what we typically call mindfulness. Being engaged in the current moment and making yourself aware of your presence and your place within the external world.
JG Bennett was kicked out of Ouspensky's groups, de Salzmann separated from him. And he cheated on all his wives.
He flittered from tradtiion to tradtion, teacher to teacher, never stuck with anything.
Here he says precisely nothing about what self-remembering is or how to do it.
But he sounds very very important.
Gurdjieff wasn't even able to drive a car without killing himself and he loved driving like that. He had plenty of children he didnt take care of. He never comitted himself to a woman. And he separated himself from plenty of his friends and pupils.
He also seemingly mixed all kinds of traditions.
The evidence is clear that Bennett was a higher man
Who told you that and why do you believe them?
This is a talk to the students at Sherborne house, on one of the remarkable 10 month residential courses.. Most of us who were able to be there for one of the courses, were given a small seedling from his tree of wisdom, that with care has, for each of us, grown into a balanced life.. he was remarkable in his humility, his presence, & his ability to articulate from his deep life as a mystic & a genius in his time.. gratitude
@@TheHajah1 Very worthy comment.