It makes me wonder if the tale was exaggerated to make Fritz seem worse. I wonder if he was a strong, brutal but fair King. Sort of Game of Thrones style King where most of the story is messed up but that's just the way things were. Idk maybe I'm just too hung up on believing that Erens dad was the bad guy only for him to be revealed as a much more complex character. It makes me wonder just how bad King Fritz was
@@click8708 King Fritz was a narcissistic, pedophilic, greedy and a sadistic king like most of the kings at the time of middle age in our world were. But I have to agree he was the most successful in his reign. Marley hated Eldia for centuries because King Fritz used his concubine's and later her descendants' Titan powers efficiently to strengthen his kingdom. So yes, he was strong and brutal but definitely no way in hell 'fair.'
@@apurbanaskar2240 I gagged when I heard the reward he was giving her was his seed. But when I heard she actually was in love with him made me physically sick. It’s not love. It’s perverse, twisted, demonic, demented and vile. To describe it as love horrifies me.
@@mariem8705 exact thought from all AOT fandoms. Submission and love are two different things. Unfortunately orphaned and abused 13 year old Ymir was too naive to understand that.
I hated Eren in the first few seasons bcus he cries & screams a lot dat I muted the show most of the time & read the subtitles. It was so over the top.
People just forget that whenever eren cried he was justified, His friends died? Justified He knows he is gonna kill the people he's walking amongst? Justified But crying because you can't rail your own step sister? Very much not justified, like he's literally killing people while crying over his ster sister
Eren breaking down and crying about not wanting Mikasa to move on is a return of his old self. He had to change and be different in order to complete the mission. He had to hide away his emotions and his true feelings in order for things to happen, but him crying and whining about her is a version of him we hadn't seen in a long time, and I'm sure it's a version Armin also recognizes and knows it's the real Eren. Also it's pretty common for men to be selfish with their women. Men don't like seeing their love or even their ex move on to someone else, so I also was amused seeing him act like a typical man afraid of losing her and her being happy with someone else. 😅
Unless widowed a woman should have only one man for life, that is natural, logical and right. City people may act like monkeys, but we aren't beasts, however we are psychologically similar to wolves and meant to mate for life.
I don't share or like to share my man either. It isn't only a man thing. There literally has been women that 'eliminated' another woman because of a man...
In interviews with Isayama, he says he knew from the first moment how it was going to end. That's how he has the direct foreshadowing with Eren waking up from a bad dream (the future events), comments on Mikasa's hair (it was short a second ago when he saw her, I.E right before he died). People keep telling these stories, but pretty sure they're not true, as the creator himself has stated this. Eren was always going to die to Mikasa. The preying mantis was foreshadowing of this as well.
There are bits that were changed. Isayama said that he could have changed more, but felt tied to the original idea he had because the story was envisioned a certain way. But he did say in 2022 that he was influenced by the anime to change the depiction of Eren to a nicer guy.
@HtheKing Google: Sometimes the female devours her mate under circumstances outside the male's control When Mikasa was little she saw a preying mantis eating another bug in her the world is cruel flashback.
Another additional detail: The series ended at chapter 139, never reaching 140. 140 is a number that represents freedom, the one thing Eren would could never obtain throughout the story.
Sadly, people tend to forget that Eren is not a 100% cold blooded killer. He can express emotion but doing that would sabotage his mission. The scene where Eren talks to Armin is the summary of Erens tragedy Edit: Remember that Eren had his eyes closed through the entirety of rumbling and opened them right at the end just to see Mikasa one last time. He simply didnt want to see the horror that he caused in the name of his cause Edit 2: Mom, Mom! Im famous!
True, those people who wanted Eren to "Win" forgot that his true goal was to make sure his friends get to live long lives, which he did by doing the rumbling and ending the titan's curse. They also failed to remember that Eren was upset that he has to kill everyone outside the wall cause not all are assholes, he sees himself to be much worse than Annie, Reiner and Bert. He did something so monstrous that he was able to sympathize and understand his traitorous mass murderer friends.
@@andrewmiguelcastanas1446 Honestly, Yeagerists are just a disgrace to this community if they genuinely think that Eren’s true goal was for everyone outside the walls to die and that genocide was justifiable smh. This includes Floch supporters as well. All these people completely dismissing Eren’s goals and intentions by making it out as an act of destroying the world is so infuriating. And everyone talking about how the alliance was wrong are just as wrong thinking that the alliance aren’t loyal soldiers, when they *are* loyal towards humanity(this was also established in the first season by the way, and they had zero clue about what their nation did and just focused their attention on protecting what they thought was the last remaining people on Earth).
@@smokey12823The difference between Floch and the Survey Corps members of the alliance is that Hange, Levi, Eren and the gang actually spent months on Marley. That's why they were the ones who are most conflicted about Eren's actions while Floch doesn't mind everyone outside the Island getting wiped out. Even Eren himself was devastated that he had to do this to innocent people to ensure his friends would live long lives, he had no choice. That's why I'm a bit confused when I see comments or "what if Eren wins" videos.
@@andrewmiguelcastanas1446 Yeah and it also confuses me when they especially accuse the scouts and of being traitors to Eldia when their entire purpose was not to side with Eldia, but to serve and protect humanity. Them stopping the rumbling perfectly encapsulates their values and loyalty to the world that they’ve always wanted to protect. People being a Yeagerist and scout hater ignored everything told in the story, and it always pisses me off whenever the scouts are antagonized as people when it makes absolutely zero sense to do that. And wile Floch did not spend enough time on Marley to care for the innocents, that still did not stop him from killing innocent civilians even after he was told not to do that. And even after majority of the scouts did perish, he remained hot headed and argued with Eren himself at the capital. I believe it was bound to happen regardless of whether or not he was there since he was written to avenge their nation instead of being a reasonable soldier.
Eren was never a cold blooded killer even when we thought he wanted to wipe out the entire world. He shows plenty of emotion when thinking about the people he’s going to kill. Wiping out the world was just necessary to save Paradis. People be thinking too much about the morals honestly.
the ending was perfect, almost realistic in a way, Eren breaking down is iconic, people who are against that have never spoken to another human being other than their parents lmfao
@@clmberserker245 yes, eren just wanted to b a normal human being with a normal life, the real villain was isayama for putting him into this prison of a world where he had no choice but to b the villain of the world
@@staotheduck4853 yes I know, but his creative talents and dedication/hard work has created something beautiful for us to enjoy. He has both the talent and the hard work dude
No it had to be mikkasa because her killing eren enabled YMIR to stop the harm king fritz was doing. They said only YMIR knows but it was pretty easy to work out for yourself why it had to be mikkasa .
I mean, everybody dying is a sad ending, but I think the saddest ending is the one we got. Yay, a lot of the characters we know survived!….but it doesn’t matter because the cycle of war and violence continues. And how Eren basically just says that he tries so many times to change this outcome but just can’t, I think is a poetic and dark ending to one of the most darkest and intriguing anime’s ever.
People either live or hate the ending, yet no one can say it wasn’t a good show. I’m rewatching the show and now knowing what I know I start to realize a lot of things that were there but imposible to realize on my first watch. Isayama is a freaking genius
Perhaps the future of everyone dying was the reason he did everything he could to change it? He wanted to save his friends and looked through every possible scenario for one that could keep them alive. It’s amazing that Sascha was the only one he lost.
I dont understand why people think erens character was ruined, erens character was improved in that scene because he only became more human, he literally went all his life hating the titans, hating reiner for killing his mom, when he realized is was actually him that killed her, and ever since he kissed historias hand he’s brain has been juggled between past present and future and in the end he has to die and to do it he can’t even tell he’s closest friends he loves them before he fights them to certain death. i don’t know about you but i’ll cry my heart out that real trauma.
He already was totally human, just look at all his breakdowns before. Even just the episode before with the breakdown to Ramzi This last breakdown was just in the face, see! See! He's human! Childish writing I never expected from AoT. That was so disappointing that I wanted to crush everything
People are more childish, casual and honest with their best friends. Eren has to have a breakdown with armin, an explosion of every inner thought because it was a farewell. @@YauDerAllerEchte
That little girl never interacted with the King before. The first time she interacted is when he cut her tongue and announced her punishment to be hunted down and then after she gained Titan powers. There was literally nothing in the manga that hinted that he groomed her. If there were hints like that, then people wouldn't have minded in the first place.
I think what most people don't get is that the new eren was just a traumatized eren after he saw the memories of what he would do. Deep down he never changed, he was still the same hot headed kid just with godlike power
Ymir had nothing and was about to be killed when the king took her in. Even if he treated her like shit he gave her more than she had, food safety children and a title. Not surprised she loved and was loyal to him.
Well for Eren, people forget when the rumbling happens, he's only like 20 (if that even). He had his entire childhood ripped away from him because of this conflict when all he ever wanted was to live happily with his friends. Yet in his visions of the future, the only future he saw with his friends alive and happy was the one where he dies. We also learn his idea of freedom slowly warps into actually being suicidal. He feels as though he will never be free until he dies. That's a hell of a lot to carry around. As for Ymir... It's easy for people to say she shouldn't love Fritz from the outside looking in. But most of those people also haven't been in an abusive relationship. I would think back to what Kenny said, everyone had to be drunk on something. The only thing keeping her going was the thought that if she was better, if she just loved Fritz enough, maybe he would love her back. They could've ended this series 101 different ways and it still been good. While I certainly have my gripes about the finale, as characters, Eren and Ymir were not the problem imo. And the series ended in a way that was fitting for the overall message they meant to convey.
Yeah I agree, Eren was literally 19 when he died (so he would have just barely graduated high school) and when he was 15/16 he saw the future and realized he was gonna murder 80% of the world, which would probably mess with the mind of anyone, let alone a 16 year old with no parents who’s already seen hundreds of his friends die
Ymir loving the King was simply a young girl naive of love and thinking he would see value in her and love her in return. She probably was treated somewhat better because she had this intense power and he probably manipulated her into following his commands by fooling her with fake love in return. I dont think he ever kissed her. I think that's evident since she saw Mikasa kiss Eren and that kind of awoken her. She has probably never experienced a kiss herself. The King probably rewarded her with a better living arrangement and probably paraded her around next to him making her feel like she was his equal and making her think he is loyal to her. But she saw how his attention was always elsewhere, and how he had ladies throw themselves on him. She probaby put up with it and thought she was better because at least she had his children. She was just a heavily fooled young girl and this happens in real life too. Women get trapped in abusive relationships and think their abuser loves then when they actually dont.
All eren wanted to do was do the right things He never wanted to be the king He swears He wasnt stone cold, he was emotionally drained knowing what had to happen... he finally broke down cause he became what he didnt want to be... he wanted to let people live and be happy even for a bit, he lost it all, outside that wall, so they could live to die another day The question of if i lose it all, slip and fall, will you laugh at me was literally something people did... people laughed cause he lost it all and fell, broke in front of armin, and spilled his final words for him... Most of this all is actually in the lyrics to the rumbling, and kinda speaks on that side of eren that is locked behind his mindless murder cause he was truly mindless doing it, he didn't want to, but he knew he had to for even a small peace for a smaller moment
"Everybody dies in a forest" sounds like the dumbest possible ending. I love how swiftly and brutally soldiers get wiped out in the story, but if that's exactly how it ended, it would retroactively make the whole show pointlessly edgy.
If I'm not mistaken, that was supposed to happen in the forest mission of season 2, where everyone would die and the Titans would forever remain a mystery. Its compared to the ending of the Mist by many people.
well if everyone died that it would make everything eren did would be for nothing. his main goal was to just ensure that his friends and people can live in peace without fear from the outside world. them dying would basically destroy this whole context of the show
I loved when Eren broke down! It just showed how he didn’t want to die and be with his friends forever. It also showed how much he loved Mikasa and them all. Such an amazing anime. All the characters had great developments. Especially Reiner
Bro if isyama dosent retire he should make “AOT Paths” it would be a manga series later anime adapted but it would essentially be a aot what if where each season would be a what if scenario like what if Erwin are berthold and armin died or what if grisha yeager didn’t eat the founder and other stuff like that
It’s better the way it ended it show how pointless eren plan of freedom was and how even if you take away the Titans to tried get rid of wars but that didn’t do nothing because war is in human nature no matter what
@@ahmedalagamk3668Eren’s main motivation for the rumbling was to guarantee long lives for his friends and also it was because of his disappointment in the survival of humanity outside the walls. To him it was never about ‘ending the cycle of hatred’ or anything like that, because even he knew that the cycle of hatred is impossible to stop.
The ending was perfect and made a lot of sense, he sacrificed himself and a lot of people to protect his friends ,so they could have a life , so how is it better if they all died.
Depending on perspective. Everybody DID die. Like if there was someone who by countless miracles was a side character who lost everything in the Rumbling then Everybody DID DIE from their perspective. But I do prefer the current ending I guess. All the other options were sad af so this one will do
I loved the ending even if it isn’t the happy ending we wanted it showcased the harsh reality of our world that war never ends like shown at the the credits it was meaningful
"It literally makes no sense" about ymir being in love with fritz... does no one know anything about stockholme syndrome and how people fall for narcissists... it makes perfect sense.. Also Erens character was 100% solid, all through every part he was always ready do messed up thungs to keep the people he cared about safe, he loved all his friends and "breaking down to armin" was his last chance to see any of his friends.. ofcourse he was going to bear all to them in that moment, he was saying goodbye
What doesn't make any sense Is It being the most important plot point of the series out of nowhere Also, eren wanting to save his friends is so funny, I guess floch being shot dead, hange being burned alive or the others almost dying multiple times were part of the plan Would have really weird if they all fell to their death because falco was late
@@randomusername3873 Not to mention that Eren left the fate of Paradis up to chance by leaving 20% of humanity alive. Eren himself stated he would never leave the island's fate to chance, and yet he still did without even knowing whether the plan would work or not.
I love the ending. All the characters. I can relate to Eren too much. I am satisfied and have no complaints on the show. Ride til they died. Our hearts and souls!
Idk why people say that Eren crying and talking about Mikasa is the most Eren thing that he did the whole season. Like it was like he reverted back to his old season one self. It was a beautiful and deliberate touch the author put in.
People forgot that Eren new he was marching to his death. You don't march to your death being calm, he probably was overwhelmed with his emotions and mentioning Mikasa was what made him snap.
And she didn't know what love was , she was just a child,that is what she thought 😢. She might have understood it a littel when Mikasa killed Eren even though she loved him so much
Realistically speaking, due to the time loops if there's any amount of variation in them this could imply that the time loop preceding the start of the show ended with everyone dying.
Those people who says the ending was ruined *because of eren’s breakdown over mikasa* are just people who never really grown up, thinking it's cool to be a sigma even though they can't even survive a day without their moms 💀
I have a theory that actually those dreams happened and eren after getting the founding power, he actually changed some events just to save his friends. Like he said all the time, all he wants is to save his friends. Probably even sent dina titan to away from dertholdt just so that he can live and then give his power to armin by the end who probably in the original timeline died without having a chance to get revived using the serum ans Bertholdt
Isayama should make 2 spin off series about the original ending and the original idea of AoT that was rejected by the shonen jump where titans were way harder to kill and the main character that the attack titan actually looked like them and had cool flaming Katana ODM gear
dude has no source to back it up. You can't identify anything in that scene. The manga's chapter 1 opens with Eren dreaming about a short-haired Mikasa bidding goodbye to him, very much in line with the actual ending. The original ending was confirmed by the author to not be too far away from the actual final ending.
Well, he used to be very open about his views to his characters and his plan for AOT. Like Eren never saw Mikasa as a love interest, mostly see her as a mother/family figure and Mikasa was just indebted with Eren because of how he saved her when they were a kid (and also having the Ackerman curse about being loyal for the person who saved them for almost dying) and will outgrow that obsession when Eren released her from that. Even how he planned Levi was going to die (now look what he did to him) so that the Eren and the others will grow. And his plan for Eren to die at the end. But many fans even his editor didn't like it, some fans even send death threats to him because of it. 😢. I really want to see what was his original plan looks like because it soumds more promising than what I saw in the ending.
Ymir had an abusive relationship, she stayed cuz that's all she knew, and scared what would've happened if she just wandered alone. People in abusive relationships tend to stay in said relationships cuz they're scared, for us it seems logical to leave but for the people stuck, it's much MUCH harder.
I think eren is actually very well developed in the last season. Think this, he’s seen his fate, he’s seen how he has to do things. He knows he has to be the one to sacrifice everything so that his friends can live long happy lives. To make it easier for himself he blocks them off. Making them despise them but even in the end they struggled to let him go. What we saw of him spilling his emotions out was him showing off how he really felt. He wanted to live he wanted to be with his friends and he wanted to live and be happy with mikasa. Even if they were his “enemies” killing that many innocent people weighed heavily on him till the very end. I’d say the only reason why it didn’t bother him in liberio is because he’s literally seen worse in his memories. I actually think his character is really really good when you kinda do a deeper dive. He’s still the same eren but he’s definitely changed for the sake of his role that he’s forced to play.
I loved the ending in the anime, I cried before that moment, and then the part everybody hated genuinely made me burst out laughing, and five minutes later I was crying again, that's seriously never happened to me before with any medium
"People hate it that Ymir was inlove with King Fritz." That is the thing about love, you love them because nothing would made sense without them. "Love is strange isnt it?" -Patrick Jane
I never read the manga but knew how much ppl hate the ending. After watching the anime finale i genuinely thought this was a completely different changed ending than the manga bc i just did not see how people could dislike the ending. I found out the endings were pretty much the same and that was so confusing- i thought it was fantastic. Like it really wrapped up the story perfectly, showed just how broken Eren is, gave great parallels btwn the various characters and their lives, and kept everyone in character.
ngl the one qualm i have with aot is the fact that ymir was in love with fritz and that’s why she did what she did, i feel like with the genius that isayama is he could’ve come up with a different reason for why she decided to serve king fritz
Isayama should have proceeded with the everyone dies ending. That would have made it the most stand out anime of all time. And would make it talled about literally for decades.
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An underage slave child girl developing Stockholm syndrome is the most realistic thing I've seen in an anime.
It makes me wonder if the tale was exaggerated to make Fritz seem worse. I wonder if he was a strong, brutal but fair King. Sort of Game of Thrones style King where most of the story is messed up but that's just the way things were.
Idk maybe I'm just too hung up on believing that Erens dad was the bad guy only for him to be revealed as a much more complex character. It makes me wonder just how bad King Fritz was
@@click8708 King Fritz was a narcissistic, pedophilic, greedy and a sadistic king like most of the kings at the time of middle age in our world were. But I have to agree he was the most successful in his reign. Marley hated Eldia for centuries because King Fritz used his concubine's and later her descendants' Titan powers efficiently to strengthen his kingdom.
So yes, he was strong and brutal but definitely no way in hell 'fair.'
@@apurbanaskar2240 I gagged when I heard the reward he was giving her was his seed. But when I heard she actually was in love with him made me physically sick. It’s not love. It’s perverse, twisted, demonic, demented and vile. To describe it as love horrifies me.
@@mariem8705 exact thought from all AOT fandoms. Submission and love are two different things. Unfortunately orphaned and abused 13 year old Ymir was too naive to understand that.
F*** your logic
As a German, 09/09/09 or "Oh nein, oh nein, oh nein" describes the emotional rollercoaster of this anime perfectly
This is actually so genius of him
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aot is based in germany so mmm
@@evidal111 every character's name is german
@@M21TD0 Mikasa is a Japanese name tho
Did people just forget that Eren has broken down and cried more than anyone else in the story by far 😂
Ikr 😂
People forget that no side is good
I hated Eren in the first few seasons bcus he cries & screams a lot dat I muted the show most of the time & read the subtitles. It was so over the top.
People just forget that whenever eren cried he was justified,
His friends died? Justified
He knows he is gonna kill the people he's walking amongst? Justified
But crying because you can't rail your own step sister? Very much not justified, like he's literally killing people while crying over his ster sister
@@AnimeYapper69 he also cries for killing people
Eren breaking down and crying about not wanting Mikasa to move on is a return of his old self. He had to change and be different in order to complete the mission. He had to hide away his emotions and his true feelings in order for things to happen, but him crying and whining about her is a version of him we hadn't seen in a long time, and I'm sure it's a version Armin also recognizes and knows it's the real Eren.
Also it's pretty common for men to be selfish with their women. Men don't like seeing their love or even their ex move on to someone else, so I also was amused seeing him act like a typical man afraid of losing her and her being happy with someone else. 😅
Unless widowed a woman should have only one man for life, that is natural, logical and right. City people may act like monkeys, but we aren't beasts, however we are psychologically similar to wolves and meant to mate for life.
"Men are selfish" says the woman who lives life on easy mode. Women have 0 loyalty and are not capable of unconditional love.
I don't share or like to share my man either. It isn't only a man thing. There literally has been women that 'eliminated' another woman because of a man...
@@wolfdaddy7098 so, I am not a weirdo for wanting the same?
No no no I cant imagine Mikasa or Levi ever dying its impossible
False: you shouldn’t be able to imagine REINER dying 😂
@@obsidian_citadel437 He almost died in season 2
@@riorange2083 joke may have flown over ya head a bit lol
@@obsidian_citadel437 what was the joke?
@@riorange2083he never wins any fights and he always gets demolished but he never dies
In interviews with Isayama, he says he knew from the first moment how it was going to end. That's how he has the direct foreshadowing with Eren waking up from a bad dream (the future events), comments on Mikasa's hair (it was short a second ago when he saw her, I.E right before he died).
People keep telling these stories, but pretty sure they're not true, as the creator himself has stated this. Eren was always going to die to Mikasa. The preying mantis was foreshadowing of this as well.
Explain the preying mantis
The females kill their mate @@HtheKing
There are bits that were changed. Isayama said that he could have changed more, but felt tied to the original idea he had because the story was envisioned a certain way. But he did say in 2022 that he was influenced by the anime to change the depiction of Eren to a nicer guy.
@@HtheKing Female praying mantises decapitate their mates.
@HtheKing
Google: Sometimes the female devours her mate under circumstances outside the male's control
When Mikasa was little she saw a preying mantis eating another bug in her the world is cruel flashback.
also the the chapter 139, 13 years lifespan, 9 shifters. isayama is mad genius
Another additional detail: The series ended at chapter 139, never reaching 140. 140 is a number that represents freedom, the one thing Eren would could never obtain throughout the story.
@@smokey12823hurts
@@smokey12823why 140 standa for freedom tho?
But that's genius.
@@fujiwaranonekobiodrando1257 Japanese culture or smth
@@smokey12823can you find other sources than that reddit post tho
Went from everybody dies to EVERYBODY dies
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Not everybody obviously Reiner, mikasa, Levi, Armin, Connie, horse lived
That start writing date 09/09/09 links with the 9 Titan Shifter gave me chill tho. Maybe Isayama is Eren himself. Everything is his plans all along 🥶
Or Eren had Iseyama write “Shingeki no Kyojin”
Sadly, people tend to forget that Eren is not a 100% cold blooded killer. He can express emotion but doing that would sabotage his mission. The scene where Eren talks to Armin is the summary of Erens tragedy
Edit: Remember that Eren had his eyes closed through the entirety of rumbling and opened them right at the end just to see Mikasa one last time. He simply didnt want to see the horror that he caused in the name of his cause
Edit 2: Mom, Mom! Im famous!
True, those people who wanted Eren to "Win" forgot that his true goal was to make sure his friends get to live long lives, which he did by doing the rumbling and ending the titan's curse. They also failed to remember that Eren was upset that he has to kill everyone outside the wall cause not all are assholes, he sees himself to be much worse than Annie, Reiner and Bert. He did something so monstrous that he was able to sympathize and understand his traitorous mass murderer friends.
@@andrewmiguelcastanas1446 Honestly, Yeagerists are just a disgrace to this community if they genuinely think that Eren’s true goal was for everyone outside the walls to die and that genocide was justifiable smh. This includes Floch supporters as well. All these people completely dismissing Eren’s goals and intentions by making it out as an act of destroying the world is so infuriating. And everyone talking about how the alliance was wrong are just as wrong thinking that the alliance aren’t loyal soldiers, when they *are* loyal towards humanity(this was also established in the first season by the way, and they had zero clue about what their nation did and just focused their attention on protecting what they thought was the last remaining people on Earth).
@@smokey12823The difference between Floch and the Survey Corps members of the alliance is that Hange, Levi, Eren and the gang actually spent months on Marley. That's why they were the ones who are most conflicted about Eren's actions while Floch doesn't mind everyone outside the Island getting wiped out. Even Eren himself was devastated that he had to do this to innocent people to ensure his friends would live long lives, he had no choice. That's why I'm a bit confused when I see comments or "what if Eren wins" videos.
@@andrewmiguelcastanas1446 Yeah and it also confuses me when they especially accuse the scouts and of being traitors to Eldia when their entire purpose was not to side with Eldia, but to serve and protect humanity. Them stopping the rumbling perfectly encapsulates their values and loyalty to the world that they’ve always wanted to protect. People being a Yeagerist and scout hater ignored everything told in the story, and it always pisses me off whenever the scouts are antagonized as people when it makes absolutely zero sense to do that. And wile Floch did not spend enough time on Marley to care for the innocents, that still did not stop him from killing innocent civilians even after he was told not to do that. And even after majority of the scouts did perish, he remained hot headed and argued with Eren himself at the capital. I believe it was bound to happen regardless of whether or not he was there since he was written to avenge their nation instead of being a reasonable soldier.
Eren was never a cold blooded killer even when we thought he wanted to wipe out the entire world. He shows plenty of emotion when thinking about the people he’s going to kill. Wiping out the world was just necessary to save Paradis. People be thinking too much about the morals honestly.
the ending was perfect, almost realistic in a way, Eren breaking down is iconic, people who are against that have never spoken to another human being other than their parents lmfao
The only human traits they know of are those belonging to shounen mcs
the only unrealistic thing here is reiner not dying😂
The ending was an inconsistent mess
@@clmberserker245 yes, eren just wanted to b a normal human being with a normal life, the real villain was isayama for putting him into this prison of a world where he had no choice but to b the villain of the world
@@priomquraishi1164 nice😂😂
I am far happier with the ending we got as I feel I'd be traumatized Losing Mikasa, Levi and Armin too... 😢 💔
I keep learning new things about AOT everyday. Isayama is truly talented and keen to detail.
TALENT AND HARD WORK ARE NOT THE SAME 🗣🗣🗣
@@staotheduck4853 yes I know, but his creative talents and dedication/hard work has created something beautiful for us to enjoy. He has both the talent and the hard work dude
For the last criticism, there is a simple answer:
*Only Ymir Knows*
No it had to be mikkasa because her killing eren enabled YMIR to stop the harm king fritz was doing.
They said only YMIR knows but it was pretty easy to work out for yourself why it had to be mikkasa .
Also that she is a young slave girl abused by a king, and these things tend to happen as a result
OMG. you have to be REALLY dumb to misunderstand that quote, unbelievable.
I mean, everybody dying is a sad ending, but I think the saddest ending is the one we got. Yay, a lot of the characters we know survived!….but it doesn’t matter because the cycle of war and violence continues. And how Eren basically just says that he tries so many times to change this outcome but just can’t, I think is a poetic and dark ending to one of the most darkest and intriguing anime’s ever.
People either live or hate the ending, yet no one can say it wasn’t a good show. I’m rewatching the show and now knowing what I know I start to realize a lot of things that were there but imposible to realize on my first watch. Isayama is a freaking genius
Perhaps the future of everyone dying was the reason he did everything he could to change it? He wanted to save his friends and looked through every possible scenario for one that could keep them alive. It’s amazing that Sascha was the only one he lost.
I dont understand why people think erens character was ruined, erens character was improved in that scene because he only became more human, he literally went all his life hating the titans, hating reiner for killing his mom, when he realized is was actually him that killed her, and ever since he kissed historias hand he’s brain has been juggled between past present and future and in the end he has to die and to do it he can’t even tell he’s closest friends he loves them before he fights them to certain death. i don’t know about you but i’ll cry my heart out that real trauma.
Nothing screams humanity more than killing 80% of humanity for no reason
Humans are not this stupid
He already was totally human, just look at all his breakdowns before. Even just the episode before with the breakdown to Ramzi
This last breakdown was just in the face, see! See! He's human!
Childish writing I never expected from AoT. That was so disappointing that I wanted to crush everything
People are more childish, casual and honest with their best friends. Eren has to have a breakdown with armin, an explosion of every inner thought because it was a farewell. @@YauDerAllerEchte
@@YauDerAllerEchte that’s different, eren was saying his final words to his best friend. he gets to be as natural about life as he wants
He cried like an incel about a girl he barely treated as a love interest rather than for the billions he murdered.
As someone who has been in a toxic relationship, Ymir loving king Fritz makes A LOT OF SENSE
This alternate ending was also inspired by The Mist’s movie ending.
The little girl got groomed by the king when she was a slave child, it makes perfect sense that she would think she “loves” him
Exactly. Stockholm syndrome is real
@@AribellaACit's not, actually. #lookintoit
@@OctopusWithNoFriends I see why you have no friends
@@AribellaAC because I'm more knowledgeable than most?
That little girl never interacted with the King before. The first time she interacted is when he cut her tongue and announced her punishment to be hunted down and then after she gained Titan powers. There was literally nothing in the manga that hinted that he groomed her. If there were hints like that, then people wouldn't have minded in the first place.
I think what most people don't get is that the new eren was just a traumatized eren after he saw the memories of what he would do. Deep down he never changed, he was still the same hot headed kid just with godlike power
Too many really underestimate GOD.
Ymir had nothing and was about to be killed when the king took her in. Even if he treated her like shit he gave her more than she had, food safety children and a title. Not surprised she loved and was loyal to him.
Well for Eren, people forget when the rumbling happens, he's only like 20 (if that even). He had his entire childhood ripped away from him because of this conflict when all he ever wanted was to live happily with his friends. Yet in his visions of the future, the only future he saw with his friends alive and happy was the one where he dies. We also learn his idea of freedom slowly warps into actually being suicidal. He feels as though he will never be free until he dies. That's a hell of a lot to carry around.
As for Ymir... It's easy for people to say she shouldn't love Fritz from the outside looking in. But most of those people also haven't been in an abusive relationship. I would think back to what Kenny said, everyone had to be drunk on something. The only thing keeping her going was the thought that if she was better, if she just loved Fritz enough, maybe he would love her back.
They could've ended this series 101 different ways and it still been good. While I certainly have my gripes about the finale, as characters, Eren and Ymir were not the problem imo. And the series ended in a way that was fitting for the overall message they meant to convey.
Yeah I agree, Eren was literally 19 when he died (so he would have just barely graduated high school) and when he was 15/16 he saw the future and realized he was gonna murder 80% of the world, which would probably mess with the mind of anyone, let alone a 16 year old with no parents who’s already seen hundreds of his friends die
Ymir loving the King was simply a young girl naive of love and thinking he would see value in her and love her in return.
She probably was treated somewhat better because she had this intense power and he probably manipulated her into following his commands by fooling her with fake love in return. I dont think he ever kissed her. I think that's evident since she saw Mikasa kiss Eren and that kind of awoken her. She has probably never experienced a kiss herself.
The King probably rewarded her with a better living arrangement and probably paraded her around next to him making her feel like she was his equal and making her think he is loyal to her.
But she saw how his attention was always elsewhere, and how he had ladies throw themselves on him.
She probaby put up with it and thought she was better because at least she had his children.
She was just a heavily fooled young girl and this happens in real life too.
Women get trapped in abusive relationships and think their abuser loves then when they actually dont.
All eren wanted to do was do the right things
He never wanted to be the king
He swears
He wasnt stone cold, he was emotionally drained knowing what had to happen... he finally broke down cause he became what he didnt want to be... he wanted to let people live and be happy even for a bit, he lost it all, outside that wall, so they could live to die another day
The question of if i lose it all, slip and fall, will you laugh at me was literally something people did... people laughed cause he lost it all and fell, broke in front of armin, and spilled his final words for him...
Most of this all is actually in the lyrics to the rumbling, and kinda speaks on that side of eren that is locked behind his mindless murder cause he was truly mindless doing it, he didn't want to, but he knew he had to for even a small peace for a smaller moment
Very well explained 👏
"Everybody dies in a forest" sounds like the dumbest possible ending. I love how swiftly and brutally soldiers get wiped out in the story, but if that's exactly how it ended, it would retroactively make the whole show pointlessly edgy.
The saddest ending ever got me crying for days
I think this is worse because if all of them died then that won't make sense because eren just wanted to protect them
that's yams editor broski eren yogurt wanted freedom for paradis
If I'm not mistaken, that was supposed to happen in the forest mission of season 2, where everyone would die and the Titans would forever remain a mystery. Its compared to the ending of the Mist by many people.
well if everyone died that it would make everything eren did would be for nothing. his main goal was to just ensure that his friends and people can live in peace without fear from the outside world. them dying would basically destroy this whole context of the show
I loved when Eren broke down! It just showed how he didn’t want to die and be with his friends forever. It also showed how much he loved Mikasa and them all. Such an amazing anime. All the characters had great developments. Especially Reiner
Bro if isyama dosent retire he should make “AOT Paths” it would be a manga series later anime adapted but it would essentially be a aot what if where each season would be a what if scenario like what if Erwin are berthold and armin died or what if grisha yeager didn’t eat the founder and other stuff like that
It's over, every journey must end
It’s better the way it ended it show how pointless eren plan of freedom was and how even if you take away the Titans to tried get rid of wars but that didn’t do nothing because war is in human nature no matter what
Eren's only motive to end the cycle of titan and his friends live peacefully their rest life he never say that he stop wars for lifetime
@@nitinjaat813 yes also that but there were still wars after he died his friends became heroes but wars never stop
@@ahmedalagamk3668yeah but that was never his goal. he just wanted his friends to live long lives which they did. so he achieved his goal
@@desmondliart so what was the point of the rumbling, him stoping the war was part of what he was doing?
@@ahmedalagamk3668Eren’s main motivation for the rumbling was to guarantee long lives for his friends and also it was because of his disappointment in the survival of humanity outside the walls. To him it was never about ‘ending the cycle of hatred’ or anything like that, because even he knew that the cycle of hatred is impossible to stop.
AoT was great.❤
The dream thing could be an ending in an alternative universe
I started watching aot when I was 6 on Netflix if it ended like that I would probably have been REALLY fucked up 💀
Hahahah probably
@@AnimeQuota I’m guessing it was the female titan too since they weren’t eaten 😔
You were 6? Holy moly 💀
Haha you have neglectful parents
imagine telling the creator or the character how their character should act. God people, get over yourself.
I had no idea there were people who hated the ending… I loved it
Levi is the Goku of the Aot verse, he can't die..
sorry to break it to you but if eren wanted to he could smoke levi
goku has died multiple times throughout the series
The ending was perfect and made a lot of sense, he sacrificed himself and a lot of people to protect his friends ,so they could have a life , so how is it better if they all died.
He murdered billions, made sure the survivors bore a grudge, and Paradis got destroyed anyway
@@clmberserker245with nukes, which mean that the world is also destroyed and not just paradis
@@sneeki8082 Japan got nuked and the world is still running
@@clmberserker245 those nukes are ICBMs bro. I don't know about you, but MAD exists.
@@sneeki8082 does it? no guarantee paradis had nukes, and even if they did, no proof they had enough for MAD
Fun fact: Eren's actual motive was to change the ending which he succeeded but at a great price
Killing everyone would of ruined any replay value. Imo a long series can never end in 100% doom and gloom.
Would 100% be worse, i loved the ending
Depending on perspective. Everybody DID die. Like if there was someone who by countless miracles was a side character who lost everything in the Rumbling then Everybody DID DIE from their perspective. But I do prefer the current ending I guess. All the other options were sad af so this one will do
I loved the ending even if it isn’t the happy ending we wanted it showcased the harsh reality of our world that war never ends like shown at the the credits it was meaningful
"It literally makes no sense" about ymir being in love with fritz... does no one know anything about stockholme syndrome and how people fall for narcissists... it makes perfect sense..
Also Erens character was 100% solid, all through every part he was always ready do messed up thungs to keep the people he cared about safe, he loved all his friends and "breaking down to armin" was his last chance to see any of his friends.. ofcourse he was going to bear all to them in that moment, he was saying goodbye
Stockholm Syndrome requires acts of kindness from the captor to occur. King Fritz was never kind to Ymir.
What doesn't make any sense Is It being the most important plot point of the series out of nowhere
Also, eren wanting to save his friends is so funny, I guess floch being shot dead, hange being burned alive or the others almost dying multiple times were part of the plan
Would have really weird if they all fell to their death because falco was late
@@randomusername3873 Not to mention that Eren left the fate of Paradis up to chance by leaving 20% of humanity alive. Eren himself stated he would never leave the island's fate to chance, and yet he still did without even knowing whether the plan would work or not.
I love the ending. All the characters. I can relate to Eren too much. I am satisfied and have no complaints on the show. Ride til they died. Our hearts and souls!
Idk why people say that Eren crying and talking about Mikasa is the most Eren thing that he did the whole season. Like it was like he reverted back to his old season one self. It was a beautiful and deliberate touch the author put in.
People forgot that Eren new he was marching to his death. You don't march to your death being calm, he probably was overwhelmed with his emotions and mentioning Mikasa was what made him snap.
The ending was great. Love is complicated. Everyone being dead would have been just too brutal.
And she didn't know what love was , she was just a child,that is what she thought 😢. She might have understood it a littel when Mikasa killed Eren even though she loved him so much
Realistically speaking, due to the time loops if there's any amount of variation in them this could imply that the time loop preceding the start of the show ended with everyone dying.
ive been a lifelong dune and asoiaf fan so the ending its a perfect example of bittersweet ending lol
That ending looks disgusting, i don't want Levi to die!! Even if i don't like the current one, i'll bare it...
Those people who says the ending was ruined *because of eren’s breakdown over mikasa* are just people who never really grown up, thinking it's cool to be a sigma even though they can't even survive a day without their moms 💀
The song in the background is called barricades for anyone that wants to know
I have a theory that actually those dreams happened and eren after getting the founding power, he actually changed some events just to save his friends. Like he said all the time, all he wants is to save his friends. Probably even sent dina titan to away from dertholdt just so that he can live and then give his power to armin by the end who probably in the original timeline died without having a chance to get revived using the serum ans Bertholdt
Yo channel mad underrated
There's a reason why a man must seal the deal. If u know, then u know why Ymir loves King Fritz.
09/09/09
At this point i'm convinced aot is not a human made story, but a gift from the universe
999 is clearly juice world reference
I woulda "unalived" myself if they all ended up dead. I could barely handle the ending we got😭😭😭😭
Isayama should make 2 spin off series about the original ending and the original idea of AoT that was rejected by the shonen jump where titans were way harder to kill and the main character that the attack titan actually looked like them and had cool flaming Katana ODM gear
trash idea and a time waster ngl. if you want sum do it yourself
I can imagine future Isayama just whispering at himself in the past
It ended good
I thought the ending was virtually flawless
I was born on 04/09/09 ( 4 September 2009), so I was born in the same month aot was made.
Definition of "It could've been worse." 💀
The everyone dies ending is never a better ending.
Nah I'm good with our current ending, ain't no way I'm going to look at AOT the same way again. 💀
Eren start writting aot manga before isayama born
Isayama being gege for 09 seconds 😂 you are my special😂
Song is Barricades by Hiroyuki Sawano
Ymir was clearly a sagitarius
I know a women whos husband isnt kind too her at all. Not saying he hits her i dont know. But she "loves" him. So as for ymir. Seems realistic enough
dude has no source to back it up. You can't identify anything in that scene. The manga's chapter 1 opens with Eren dreaming about a short-haired Mikasa bidding goodbye to him, very much in line with the actual ending. The original ending was confirmed by the author to not be too far away from the actual final ending.
Well, he used to be very open about his views to his characters and his plan for AOT. Like Eren never saw Mikasa as a love interest, mostly see her as a mother/family figure and Mikasa was just indebted with Eren because of how he saved her when they were a kid (and also having the Ackerman curse about being loyal for the person who saved them for almost dying) and will outgrow that obsession when Eren released her from that. Even how he planned Levi was going to die (now look what he did to him) so that the Eren and the others will grow. And his plan for Eren to die at the end. But many fans even his editor didn't like it, some fans even send death threats to him because of it. 😢. I really want to see what was his original plan looks like because it soumds more promising than what I saw in the ending.
Ymir had an abusive relationship, she stayed cuz that's all she knew, and scared what would've happened if she just wandered alone.
People in abusive relationships tend to stay in said relationships cuz they're scared, for us it seems logical to leave but for the people stuck, it's much MUCH harder.
Man started writing on my birthday
I believe Isiyama nailed it when he stated that he f*cked the ending 😂😂😂😂😂
I think eren is actually very well developed in the last season. Think this, he’s seen his fate, he’s seen how he has to do things. He knows he has to be the one to sacrifice everything so that his friends can live long happy lives. To make it easier for himself he blocks them off. Making them despise them but even in the end they struggled to let him go. What we saw of him spilling his emotions out was him showing off how he really felt. He wanted to live he wanted to be with his friends and he wanted to live and be happy with mikasa. Even if they were his “enemies” killing that many innocent people weighed heavily on him till the very end. I’d say the only reason why it didn’t bother him in liberio is because he’s literally seen worse in his memories. I actually think his character is really really good when you kinda do a deeper dive. He’s still the same eren but he’s definitely changed for the sake of his role that he’s forced to play.
I loved the ending in the anime, I cried before that moment, and then the part everybody hated genuinely made me burst out laughing, and five minutes later I was crying again, that's seriously never happened to me before with any medium
"People hate it that Ymir was inlove with King Fritz."
That is the thing about love, you love them because nothing would made sense without them.
"Love is strange isnt it?" -Patrick Jane
09.09.09 spoken in German sounds like "Oh nein oh nein oh nein" translated oh no ho no ho no
😂😂😂
I'm pretty sure he saw them dead, and this is what made him lean so hard into the rumbling because he wanted them to live and have long, happy lives.
I never read the manga but knew how much ppl hate the ending. After watching the anime finale i genuinely thought this was a completely different changed ending than the manga bc i just did not see how people could dislike the ending. I found out the endings were pretty much the same and that was so confusing- i thought it was fantastic. Like it really wrapped up the story perfectly, showed just how broken Eren is, gave great parallels btwn the various characters and their lives, and kept everyone in character.
Eren was practically a kid his crying is completely understandable
Everbody pretty much died anyways😂😂😂
Dude the current ending is awesome. It is a realistic ending. Not some ideological happy ending baby haters asking about.
There is no point of rumbling if he's all friend are dead
ngl the one qualm i have with aot is the fact that ymir was in love with fritz and that’s why she did what she did, i feel like with the genius that isayama is he could’ve come up with a different reason for why she decided to serve king fritz
A fun fact is that aot have "13"9 chapter
13 winter song
Page 13
"13"9 chapter
13 normal main character
And the 13"9" is Titan shifters count 😅
isayama the mastermind of foreshadowed❤
And 3 is a multiple of 9, the days, the months, and the Year, so thats cool too
I like both of the endings. :)
I couldn’t handle another ending where everyone dies. I’m rewatching akame ga kill and I’m fully ready to cry again
@Ryukisimmortal it made more sense the second time I watched it
The ending we got was good. It was just extremely sad, like the rest of the anime.
We already got gege killing his whole cast off i dont need further trauma 😢
Thing with Ymir and king Fritz: they didn’t know Stockholm syndrome was a thing yet.
Isayama should have proceeded with the everyone dies ending. That would have made it the most stand out anime of all time. And would make it talled about literally for decades.
Stand out but lazy, everyone dies ending is just stupid