Trinity World's Hebrews
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- Опубликовано: 30 дек 2021
- The Psalmist is the speaker in all the passages the Hebrews writer quotes between verse 6 and 12.
The devil is the father of lies and he has been hard at work with his lies. Little children, do not be deceived by his schemes which he accomplishes through his servants.
Take care, brethren, that there not be in any one of you an evil, unbelieving heart that falls away from the Living God. But encourage one another day after day, as long as it is still called “Today,” so that none of you will be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin. For we have become partakers of Christ, if we hold fast the beginning of our assurance firm until the end. Hebrews 3:1-14
Your videos provided an easy path for me being Jewish to easily understand what Christianity truly is. All of it is 100% Jewish , everything about the faith.. G-d at work through Yeshua. Thank You Brother
God bless you my sister!
One day, we shall meet in the kingdom!
excellent, and this is why its important to proclaim these truths here in the modern marketplace, like Yeshua did, and he was hated and commented against too.
blessings.
Awesome. Trinity has closed the door to god and his Christ, for Jews and Muslims.
It's amazing how obvious it all becomes when you care enough to look closer. Wow.
It never ceases to amaze me, how translators take-it upon themselves to have Bibles say whatever they want it to say rather than adhering to the written text, and moreso, where so few seem compelled to take a second look - making this a case of the blind leading the blind
i agree, in fact i think very few actually do read their bibles. i read hear and there for nearly 40 years, seeing what i had been told in sermons and bible studies set out by denominational teachers we belonged to.
when i finally decided to read analytically i discovered truths imediatly in fact they came on so fast i couldnt keep up for a year and a bit. The non trinity truth was suddenly so clear, i wonder how i had such a fog in my head all those years, and i see it here still in the folk who comment against Kel here, quoting the same old trinity bombs, as if we havent seen them before.
blessings smalltimeR, good to see you along the trail.
Amazing video! Thanks for this Kel
who have ears to hear let them hear!
In short, Hebrews 1 is saying that God's has anointed Jesus to rule his never ending Kingdom. And that he didn't choose any angels for the job, Nowhere does it say that Jesus is God, even though you could interpret it that way if you have a motive to.
Jesus was an Archangel (leader of all the armies of Jehovah God), but God could not say this to any angel, because Jesus had to become like his brothers, and become fully human, because he did not help angels, but humans.
Through an in-depth study Hebrews of whole chapters I understood this.
@@DjMakinetor you seem to have misinterpreted Hebrews. Jesus is a glorified human being, not an angel. The scriptures say we will be conformed to the image of Jesus and will be like angels because we become spiritual beings. Jesus supposedly being an archangel is nothing new, jehovah witnesses for example also believe this.
@@bardowesselius4121 MichaEL - Has no other spiritual nature than the angels, but is greater than their power, might and authority. Believing that he was an ARCHangel before shows that they believed this in the period around 400-2022 AD (!) The archangel is the leader of the angels. Just as Almighty God is stronger than the Mighty.
There are no two leaders, Michael and Jesus. This is the same person. No name "Jesus" in Heaven existed before "salvation"
excellent--when i resigned from watchtower 10 years ago trinnies almost convinced me--they are sneaky snakes
Happy for you that you left. But there were reasons we liked the WT some things made more sense than the churches and that was a big part of the appeal.
Trinity makes no sense whatsoever. We’d have to destroy language as a phenomenon altogether to make sense of the Trinity or just accept it. Sense making is impossible according to the trinitarians themselves if I am not mistaken
@@theohuioiesin6519 exactly right! i was a trinnie for 30 something years and had to leave my logical brain outside. Since being alerted to the truth the whole of scripture makes logical sense.
Cheers.
@@ken440 that is soo awesome! Because I think it is fantastic that I can listen to very smart apologists discussing this matter with a Muslim scholar and it is fascinating that the Educated Christian is willing to defend a teaching that is so weird and makes God seem so incredibly weird.
The bible becomes a very readable book if we don’t read it as trinity.
Fantastic that you were able to be touched by the spirit and have an open mind and change after 30 years.
@@ken440 are you from Melbourne?
@@theohuioiesin6519 no. why melbourn? im in new zealand.
If anyone is sad,let him pray....if anyone is Happy let him sing Psalms!
I really want to thank u for this study. This is so needed So important. As much as we bn warned not only by the Father n his Son Christ Jesus has never bn enough some still follows man. Almighty God, Our creator, Our heavenly Father is a living spirit, has existed B4 a thing called time. God is self abstained has no needs everything he made good bad indifference was under him. Living spirit n is to b worship in spirit n truth. He is the father, the word, the holy spirit is one! In the beginning was the word n the word was with God n the word was God.
Obviously you are a Trinitarian
Thank you for all your work and meticulous explanation it is a joy to listen and learn.
I love this guy. This cleared it up for me, was one of those "tough verses" for me but not anymore. You need to start debating the likes of James White on some moderated platform so you can get more eyeballs on your message. This is high quality!
We only need to proclaim the truth and not engage in all those endless debates. Debating is the church's way, not God's way.
I don't like the idea of debating. The truth is there for everyone to find, if someone cares to listen, he will listen. It's really not about winning arguments with one's erudition. We shouldn't believe things about God because we liked someone's arguments in a debate, but because we are convinced by the Spirit of the living God. This God has made a promise that He will teach us. Debeting about Him as if He is some inanimate object that can't speak for Himself seems disrespectful to me.
I always love coming back to your channel and appreciate all of your work. I've been following you for years and have come to many new truths on my journey of seeking. I am wondering if you have ever come to the Christian Identity message about two-seedline, dual seedline or serpent seed? I came to this doctrine a few years ago and could never go back from it. Unfortunately many in that community are trinitarian, and it is heartbreaking and frustrating. Just wondering if you have come to it at all. Thank you again for everything Trinity Delusion!
This is totaly true. Thank God!
Happy new year brother Kel
correct Kel, it couldnt be more clear. And God even shows how He intended to do this, in the foreshadow story in Genesis that all sunday schools teach. Joseph.
I always point this out to trinitarian critics, and they ignore, shake their heads, say they dont understand..
Joseph was figuratively dead as a hebrew slave in egypt after his own people had betrayed him (sound familiar readers) and Pharaoh raised him and seated Joseph on Pharaohs throne and gave him the signet ring of authority!!! (like jesus was given all power and authority) and so Joseph became Lord of Egypt, under only pharaoh himself, and ruled the kingdom (sound familiar reader? Acts2:36) and not only that but Joseph went on to forgive and save his own family!!!
What could be more obvious?
Joseph was NOT an Egyptian, but a lowly servant.
Jesus was not God but was a lowly obedient servant, because he was a man!!
Its exactly as Kel points out here.
Trinitarian critic reading this, dare to use your brain God gave you!
Amazing observation!
@@Aquadood23 really? i cant understand how people cant see it.
But then for 38 years i was a trinitarian who also never saw this, until God jolted me out of churchianity and into sudden understanding, mostly when i finally stopped trusting preachers to tell me what the bible saod, and read it for myself and seek God in understanding.
@@ken440AMEN!!
Great video. For a time now I've noticed the paragraph from verse 10 to 13.
Heaven is God's throne and earth is his footstool. The One who made heaven and earth in verse 10 is the One who seats Jesus at his right hand (in heaven His throne). And makes earth his footstool as well. It clearly says,
"But to which of the angels has He ever said, "Sit at my right hand...."
The antecedent for "He" in verse 13 is clearly the One in verse 10.
Excellent video. Thank you so much!
I’ve always felt v10 was about the Father
Also why write a whole chapter on how God is greater than angels?
As if some thought angels were greater than God and he needed to correct them??
Seems off
That’s sort of the view of those who believe Jesus is God
Kel, are you aware of any church father or scholar through the ages who has noticed this or pointed it out?
I’m just curious
this same idea of folk thinking angels to be greater is the context of Colosians as well, where Paul corrects them and explains that christ is now in far greater authority than angels, and Paul goes on to point out that he Jesus as head, has assigned spiritual authorities, created these positions at the beginning. Trinitarians make the mistake of seeing "the beginning" as creation in Genesis, and miss the point in Col and Heb, tjat the author is speaking to christians and is talking about the "beginning" of the body, after he was raised and made lord and head. Just like Luke and Mark start their gospels about Jesus life with them by saying "in the beginning." Its amazing the context is so simple yet trinitarian scholars are blind to it and refuse to listen.
blessings, i am not preaching at you, just taking the opening and pointing this out to other readers.
There's no such thing as church fathers.
Using such terms is an abomination and going along with the lie. It's the sin of ignoring a commandment of Jesus:
Christ is the head of the church and God is the head of Christ. No church fathers (founders)
Father means creator or founder.
Bill Gates for example is the father of Microsoft and Walt Disney is the father of Mickey Mouse.
Christ has commanded us for good reason: Call no one Father for there's only one Father which is your Father in heaven.
The term church fathers alone, looking at the commandment Jesus gave already exposes all of them as being heretics.
Church fathers are heretics by definition who are standing in between deceived believers and the Father and the Son.
@@johndevisser903 John, i agree on your position, even if it raises hackles you speak truth. Its a silly religious term which artificially raises them in distinction when Paul plainly teaches there is no one "over" the believer other than the head, Jesus.
The point may seem pedantic but it is correct you folk.
@@johndevisser903
I meant it in a way which people refer to them
Quotes of you like “church fathers”
Obviously I don’t agree with them on a lot and don’t get my views from them
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
James 2:19 KJV.
Pure brilliance!
Can you explain genesis 1:26 because many people says that god was talking with the angels but angels cant create and we are not in their image but we are image of god jesus christ your thoughts about it? and can you explain john 14:16 and john 15:26 whould be awesome if you could reply god bless you man
Thank you!
Awesome explanation.
Thank you for giving us the proper interpretation.
I hope you can one day make a video about your past, so we can learn more about you. What was your childhood like? What was your career? Did you marry and have kids? I know this is irrelevant and not important. I'm curious.
NIV - Not inspired version.
Brother Kel, have you ever considered publishing a book about debunking the trinity?
NO.
@@TheTrinityDelusion ah okay, i was just wondering because I would absolutely read it! The only credible book I could find on Unitarianism is “When Jesus Became God”
There is also:
Greg Deuble: They Never Told Me This In Church
Patrick Navas: Divine Truth or Human Tradition?
Eric Chang: The Only Perfect Man;
and The Only True God
….a few for starters!
@@Triple_Aces “The Only True God”
Eric H.H. Chan
@@jennymichaelson358 thanks for the recommendations!
What do you make of this? I felt impressed to get up from praying to look up a scripture on internet. The screen lit at 12:12. Then I realized a moment later, the date was 12:12.
REALLY! 12:12 12:12
Are you kidding me Mun?🤣
Thanks for solving this verse Hebrew 1:10
that makes sense
I stiil need to study myself, I did already learn that Hebrews 1:10-13 is about Majesty on High, but was under the impression Majesty on High himself was speaking in verses 6 thru 9 because of the "he says".
Niv has done is either took out or added about 2000 verse's that means about 6400 words alter in the same matter. It's sad that some believers caught in this snare, knowing the Father n Son is what separates us from all the rest. Our heavenly Father is not religion!!
as Jeff Benner says--the translators fix the text--Jeff knows hebrew
Random question Kel. Can you make a video about baptism? I want to see what you say. Either way, good video today Kel👍
Plenty of scripture about Baptism....Matthew 28:19, Mark 16:16 kjv and in Acts 9:18 and Peter and the Ethiopian Acts 8:27-39 note: verse 39 full submersion and of course John Chapter 3 kjv. Maybe your question is about Messiah and his Baptism? The transfer of priesthoods from Leviticus under Zadok High Priest "John the Baptist" to Messiah's Melchizedek (Hebrews Cht 7). I hope this helped and I did not want to over step. Peace!!!
baptism is an interesting one, other than the ethiopian guy, all the other references from Acts on could be referring to being immersed in the spirit, not water at all.
Its pretty simple really...Paul said yet for us there is but one God...THE FATHER...now we can get back to preaching the gospel...the MAN JESUS CHRIST
In Hebrews 1:10-12; in this quotation from Ps 101:26-28, following the Septuagint order, Ps 102 according to the Masoretic text, God the Father (v. 9) is addressing Another as "Lord," that is, as God.
1. Lord does not equate GOD, as those are different terms with different implications
2. There is no Psalm 101.26-28, as the chapter ends with v8
3. The speaker in Heb 1.9 is not YHWH, but the human Psalmist, as can be seen in the original citation fr. Psalm 45
Verses 6 and 7 does seem to have "he says". This is in the greek, but you claimed it is not. The reference is Strongs 3004. However, i agree that it is not in verse 8. This is in the Greek/Hebrew Interlinear.
Some Bible translators seem to think they can add and/or remove whatever they want to make GOD's say what they need it to say. Shocking I know, though hardly a new thing, as it is obvious that the world is overcome with deceivers having no regard for the sanctity of GOD's will and commandments;
_Every word of God is flawless. He is a shield to those who take refuge in him. 6Don't you add to his words, lest he reprove you, and you be found a liar_ - Prov 30.5-6
_I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book, if anyone adds to them, may God add to him the plagues which are written in this book. 19If anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, may God take away his part from the tree of life, and out of the holy city, which are written in this book_ - Rev 22.18-19
@@johnbee1069 while I appreciate reminders of God's wrath, can you please clarify your issue???
When God gives a man revelation what he reveals is understood otherwise nothing would be revealed. Logic. What is beyond human comprehension was not revealed to man by God.
Thank you brother Kel the Trinity is clearly absolutely false! Do you have an understanding concerning whether the son pre existed or not? I don’t have a stance on it I am just inquiring what your understanding of this is thank you brother
Existence begins when God plans for something to exist just like a painting began to exist when an artist imagined it in his mind. But Jesus did not exist as a self conscious person until he was born in Bethlehem.
One should tackle how Hebrews is not the word of God. The Tanak made it clear that God is one elohim..not 3 in one or anything else. However, be careful quoting from NT because it is confusing mixing God's word with random author s.
There is no GOD in three found anywhere in the NT, not was it written by random authors
In order for Trinitarianism to be true, God would be a liar and the old testament false, because it says the Hebrews knew who God was and that God taught them who he was, and who he was and what he commanded was on their lips and written down and stated daily. And Jesus and the scribe testified to this and agreed to it when addressing the Shema in Mark. God is one he. Trinitarianism is a lie separating the Hebrews and Christians. There is one God, and he is one person: the Father alone. Unitary monotheism is the truth.
@@TheChadWork2001
As can be seen here;
_Thus says Yahweh, your Redeemer, and he who formed you from the womb: _*_"I am Yahweh, who makes all things_*_ who _*_alone_*_ stretches out the heavens; who spreads out the earth _*_by myself_* - Isaiah 44.24
Who is the GOD who is doing all things 'alone' and 'by Himself'?
It is none other than the GOD and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who's name was revealed to the prophets as YHWH(יְהוָ֞ה) for all eternity and generations.
@@SmalltimR I agree. It's God the Father alone, not Jesus, who did that. Jesus is the messiah, not the Trinitarian polytheistic false "god" with 5 heads. Those are all singular personal pronouns and we ail know what that means, even the Trinitarian reality-deniers know.
@@TheChadWork2001
It never ceases to amaze, to see people squirm before the written truth in passages such as Isaiah 44.24.
The text is clear as day, _'by myself',_ being a personal statement, and therefore spoken by a 'person', completely destroying the infamous triune god.
But that won't stop people from denying the truth in-favor of man-made teachings, which I found very perplexing, until finally coming to understand why that is;
_In that same hour Jesus rejoiced in the Holy Spirit, and said, "I thank you, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for so it was well-pleasing in your sight"_ - Luke 10.21
_Then he opened their minds, that they might understand the Scriptures_ - Luke 24.45
_Many shall purify themselves, and make themselves white, and be refined; but the wicked shall do wickedly; and none of the wicked shall understand; but those who are wise shall understand_ - Daniel 12.10
_For I know that after my departure, vicious wolves will enter in among you, not sparing the flock. 30Men will arise from among your own selves, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after them_ - Acts 20.29-30
_For the time will come when they will not listen to the sound doctrine, but, having itching ears, will heap up for themselves teachers after their own lusts_ - 2 Tim 4.3
_Because of this, God sends them a working of error, that they should believe a lie; 12that they all might be judged who didn't believe the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness_ - 2 Thes 2.11
Comparing with;
_But יְהוָ֞ה is the true God; He is the living God, and an everlasting King_ - Jer 10.10
_This is eternal life, _*_that they should know you, the only true God,_*_ and him whom you sent, Jesus Christ_ - John 17.3
hi bro--i see hints here of Christ being the foundation of the new creation--hmm--nobody can lay any foundation but the cornerstone is the man Messiah
This a hard sell. Whenever it says the scripture says or the law says it actually uses the word scripture or law to indicate them as the speaker. In these passages only God is identified as who could be the speaker. It's possible that the Hebrew writer is putting the Psalmist's words into God's mouth. At least until verse 10.
No, that isn't possible. And no it doesn't always use the word "scripture" or "law."
@@TheTrinityDelusion all your examples do.
@@TheTrinityDelusion Your case would be more plausible if you had at least one scripture where the verb was translated as scripture says or the law says, and there was no other positive identification of the scripture or the law as the subject.
@@austin3789 Go check various translations of Romans 15:10. Then tell me if the HE SAYS translation or the IT SAYS translation is correct. Have fun.
@@TheTrinityDelusion yes, but verse 10 is proceeded by verse 9 of Rom 15 that says "it is written" which convention for the scriptures say. So it seems that before these types of verbs there seems be some way of contextually specifying who or what the implicit noun should apply to. Hebrews 1:6 seems to imply that the speaker is the same who brings the firstborn into the world.
Isaiah 9:6 Repent
The "trinity deception " is one thing but keeping "church goers " to keep looking for Christs Return when he already has returned is a deception far worse
Can you explain? To you believe Christ will return to establish God's Kingdom on earth?
@@dmythica its already happened just read Matthew 24, and the book of revelation is about what he said in matthew 24 and Luke 21...the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple,and the end of the previous wold age..
The end of the world and the old covenant age ended in AD 70 ,Jesus said he would return after the destruction
@@dvolz1975 ok I can get with that. I think people call it amillennialism?
So do you believe there will be an end with God judging the world through Christ? Because this is what some people call the second coming.
Ok... So where is Jesus then if he is upon the earth now? I want to go hug his neck.
@@sbeasley7585 I thought Jesus now is in his resurrected body sitting at the father's right hand on David's throne in heaven?
The new Testament is an addition to Fathers' word the tanach, as the oral law of the jews is the same, and the father said to his people, do not add to or take away from my word! Israel is Gods first born son, and keeping his covenant is salvation, Christianity and Jadaism is nothing more than mans Idolatrous religions. Love God and keep his covenant (10 commandments) is the whole duty of man!!!
In these last days, God has spoken to us in a person, a Son. He is the embodiment of the word of God.
Jesus is the word:
Revelation 19:13
John 1:1-14
Galatians 3:13-15
Acts: 20:28
Trinitarian Lies.
Only one of those verses says anywhere near what you claim: Revelaton 19:13. The other verses you styled cannot be twisted to match your false doctrine.
And Revelation 19:13 doesn't say Jesus = God's word. It says Jesus is called the word of God. This is because he was obedient and did the will of his Father who alone is the one person who is GOD almighty. And Jesus comes in the name of God Father, who alone is GOD.
John 1 especially does not say Jesus = the word of God. Trinitarian lies.
Yes, and in Heb.1:8, the Father addresses the Son as God, and again in verse 9, Father addresses the Son as God.
But here, the Son tells us who He is, by Isaiah.
"Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel,
And his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts:
'I am the First and the Last.
Besides Me there is no God."
44:6
Pretty clear.
You are sadly mistaken. ruclips.net/video/NesfvjkMQ9o/видео.html
The NIV actually got it right for once.
@@TheTrinityDelusion
Jesus is God.
Isaiah 9:6
Isaiah 10:21
Your mind is wicked with deception and narcissism. The word "his" in "his redeemer" in Isaiah 9:6 is referring to Israel, not God the Father saying that Jesus is also a God almighty.
@@richardtemple7706 did you realize you are "sent into the world"
you are " not of this world"
you are to be "glorified in christ, high above angels"
you are "filled with the spirit"
you are "sent from heaven"
You are christ (anointed) to the world
you are a "son of man"
you are a "son of God"
you are "loved from the foundation of the world"
you are "the word of God from the beginning"
thats if you are a christian.
because when we say "yes" to Jesus work of atonement, the blood, then we come into Gods promise, spoken by God in the beginning. He then sends us into the world. The great commision.
do you think that means you are actually God? of course not.
These are all things written about Jesus. They dont make him God, they make him the son of God and for his obedience is now "first up from the dead, the only one risen to heaven and glorified, so far.
@@ken440
God does not share his glory (Isaiah 42:8)
Jesus had glory with the Father before the World was (John 17:5 )
Jesus is God.
Jesus is God.
Isaiah 9:6
Isaiah 10:21
Matthew 1:21-23
Jesus is identified as a god with a GOD above Him(Heb 1.8-9), and is therefore not [the] GOD as a result of this.
People love cherry-picking and twisting scripture to suite their needs, but the Bible does not cater to such things.
With that said Isaiah 9.6 does not say Jesus is GOD, but moreso, that; _'a remnant will return to Mighty GOD',_ to which I'd add, that remnant is none other than Jesus Christ returning to YHWH as indicated in the previous verse(20)
And finally, Matthew 1.21-23 does not say Jesus is GOD either, but moreso, that one of His given names(Emmanuel) means; GOD is with us, to which I'd add, and while it is obvious that Jesus was not GOD on earth, that His presence and fulfilment of the prophecy of salvation served as living testimony that YHWH had not abandoned humanity.
@@SmalltimR
So are you saying Jesus is a false god or are you saying you believe in two gods?
@@richardtemple7706
I am pointing out what the Bible says, do you accept the Bible , or are you going to take-up a position against GOD's written word?
With that said and quite obviously, the classifications of true and false gods are not the extent of the titles in scripture, as that would mean that YHWH made a false god of Moses over Pharaoh, of which we must either conclude that Moses was neither a true and false god, so that Aaron would qualify as his prophet...
We could ask the same of the human Davidic King in Psalm 45, appointed to the throne of YHWH, and identified as a god with a GOD above Him, of which, we would rightfully ask whether he was a true of false god?
Likewise, we could ask the same of the angelic sons of GOD in heaven, identified as gods, as well as the Judges of Israel, who Jesus referenced in His defense against the charge of making Himself GOD on earth, and to which He outlined that He had only claimed to be the Son of GOD in contrast in John 10.
And so as can be seen here, the notion that the title of god be limited to true and false criteria does not work at all, as that results in all sorts of contradictions. And where it is obvious such a criteria be specific to YHWH's unique disposition as the only 'true GOD', and in contrast with those given the title of gods in Bible history, and who would did not contend with YHWH's position.
But what about the declarations by YHWH regarding no other GOD besides Him?
Well here again and as it turns out, there are two conditions associated with YHWH's declaration of His stature as the only true GOD;
1. There is no GOD preceding or succeeding YHWH
2. There are no other GOD besides or like Him
Both of which are maintained, as it is obvious that there is no before or after with YHWH who is without beginning or end, and that there is no other GOD besides Him with respect to His nature, as YHWH went-on to declare Himself the source and cause of all things with the terms _'alone'_ and _'by myself'_
And so while it is obvious that there is only 'one true GOD', it is also obvious, that any god who contend with His position will prove to be false.
Whereas those called gods either by GOD Himself or appointed prophets, would not contend with YHWH's position, such as can be seen with; Moses, the Davidic King(David and/Solomon), the angels in heaven, YHWH's appointed Judges, and least but not last, the only begotten son of GOD Himself, who is identified as a god with GOD above Him.
As for believing, Jesus said it best; _'believe in GOD, believe also in me'_ - John 14.1
@@SmalltimR
God does not share his glory( Isaiah 42:8)
Jesus had glory with the Father before the World was (John 17:5)
Genesis1:26
John 1:1-14
Jesus is God.
@@richardtemple7706
*RE:* Where in the bible does it say Moses is God?
*A.* It does not say Moses is GOD, nor have I stated such a thing, but more accurately, that Moses was made god over Pharaoh by YHWH and that Aaron was made his prophet.
With that said, the passage in question is Exodus 7.1, which reads; [נְתַתִּ֥יךָ אֱלֹהִ֖ים פַרְעֹ֑ה] - translated; _'I have made you god to pharaoh'_
0559 וַיֹּ֤אמֶ *way-yō-mer* so said
3068 יְהוָה֙ *YHWH* YHWH
0413 אֶל־ *’el* - to
4872 מֹשֶׁ֔ה *mō-šeh,* moses
7200 רְאֵ֛ה *rə-’êh* see
5414 נְתַתִּ֥יךָ *nə-ṯat-tî-ḵā* I have made you
0430 אֱלֹהִ֖ים *’ĕ-lō-hîm* god
6547 לְפַרְעֹ֑ה *lə-p̄ar-‘ōh;* to pharaoh
0175 וְאַהֲרֹ֥ן *wə-’a-hă-rōn* and aaron
0251 אָחִ֖יךָ *’ā-ḥî-ḵā* your brother
1961 יִהְיֶ֥ה *yih-yeh* shall be
5030 נְבִיאֶֽךָ׃ *nə-ḇî-’e-ḵā.* your prophet
Now, quite obviously, English Bible translators could not print such a thing, as that would undermine most all of Christian theology, and so they employed word amplification to smooth things over with terms such as; _'like GOD, seem like GOD, as GOD, as a GOD, thee as GOD,_ and even refusing to print the words altogether.
Ands while it is obvious that no one concludes that YHWH made Moses equal-to Himself, the question as to what type of god Moses was, has yet to be considered, especially if we limit our view to that of a true and false GOD nomenclature as you yourself suggested here.
In addition to this, the Bible gives added resolution to the title given onto Moses by YHWH in Exodus 4.16;
_...and he shall be for you a mouth and you shall be to him god_ - Exodus 4.16
1696 וְדִבֶּר־ *wə-ḏib-ber-* so will speak
1931 ה֥וּא *hū* he
לְךָ֖ *lə-ḵā* for you
0413 אֶל־ *’el-* to
5971 הָעָ֑ם *hā-‘ām;* the people
1961 וְהָ֤יָה *wə-hā-yāh* and
1931 הוּא֙ *hū* he
1961 יִֽהְיֶה־ *yih-yeh-* shall be
לְּךָ֣ *lə-ḵā* for you
6310 לְפֶ֔ה *lə-p̄eh,* as a mouth
0859 וְאַתָּ֖ה *wə-’at-tāh* and you
1961 תִּֽהְיֶה־ *tih-yeh-* shall be
לּ֥וֹ *lōw* to him
0430 לֵֽאלֹהִֽים׃ *lê-lō-hîm.* god
Taking note that the title of god(elohim) given to Moses was not limited to Pharaoh alone, but Aaron also, as the passage identifies Moses as the god of Aaron as well.
*RE:* Jesus had glory with the Father before the World was (John 17:5)
*A.* Couple of points on this, first with the word 'glory', which is not definitive, as it requires definition - as-in; the type of glory being given or shared, and where the account provides the following details toward matters;
_'"I am Yahweh. That is my name. I will not give my glory to another, nor my praise to engraved images'_ - Isaiah 42.8
And now, let's consider Jesus' own words on the glory He shared with His own GOD and Father;
*_the glory which you have given me, I have given to them;_*_ that they may be one, even as we are one; 23I in them, and you in me, that they may be perfected into one; that the world may know that you sent me, and loved them, even as you loved me. 24Father, I desire that they also whom you have given me be with me where I am, that they may see _*_my glory, which you have given me,_*_ for you loved me _*_before the foundation of the world._* - John 17.22-24
Therefore and we can be seen, the glory Jesus shared with His own GOD before the founding of the world could not of been the glory due to GOD, as the account shows the very same glory will be shared with Jesus' disciples.
*RE:* Genesis1:26, John 1:1-14
*A.* You could benefit in studying the Bible more intensely, for example; who is it that the Bible reveals was speaking in Gen 1.26?
And so you see, we cannot claim to know the truth if we do not have all of the information at our disposal, and while it is obvious that there are numerous arguments made to justify all sorts of beliefs when it comes to the Bible, it is also obvious that many of these arguments consist of Bible passages taken-out of context and in some cases, faulty reasoning - for example;
Who is it that the Bible reveals was commanding and obeying at the time of creation?
If you look closely, you will find that this consisted of YHWH speaking to His word, and where it was His word that carried-out His commandments.
Therefore and if we conclude that the word of GOD that did as GOD commanded it do to, then who do we say is responsible for creation?
Do we look past the fact that the word was commanded by GOD, or do we acknowledge the order of operations?
Likewise, do we look past the fact that the word is identified as coming from GOD Himself, and in contrast with YHWH who is without source?
And finally, do we consider the use of the title of the word applied to the son in heaven prior-to coming to earth?
Here again and as it was with the written truth, the truth if we are not respectful of the order of operations in matters.
And the order of operations tells us that the glory due to GOD as the source of all things, is due to Him and Him alone.
PS. Why is Jesus identified and titled as 'the word' rather than the Son, Jesus, etc, in the book of John? How is the title used, and what is its meaning and function in scripture?
use KJV is the real bible
What about the 8 bibles wich came before the KJV? Are they not real?
@@johndevisser903 What about other non-English translations of the Bible?
The pre-English ones were the first!
Amen...❤