This is probably the best thing I've found on the internet in a long time. Exactly suited a problem I had. I was looking for an extremely small sub that fits under my computer desk and that delivers heavy nice bass even at low volumes. So I printed my own small two-channel speakers and this wonderful subwoofer. So now I have a compact 2.1 system that performs well with deep bass even at very low volume. So many thanks for sharing your design.
I'm trying to figure out if I need to put a passive low pass crossover on it. I'm ordering the sub. Did you just let it go full range? Was thinking about a 100hz low pass.
@@itspoffy regardless of what enclosure is in, a subwoofer shouldn't get the full range. A NE5532 pre-amplifier module costs a few bucks, use that as a low pass filter.
3 years later I finally printed this on my X1 Carbon. Took only 13 hours total and sounds awesome! I took apart a logitech z313 sub and printed housings for the components that were inside. Nothing fancy but sounds good enough for now.
@@RandoWisLuLI think the question is how does it compare to a typical cabinet with normal port. A lot more bass extension! you'll never get the same feel as a bigger sub
I remember when you had the first design and people were complaining that you didn't provide the STL. Well, you my friend delivered once you refined it. Thanks for the follow through. Amazing work.
speakers if properly made they need size to shine, so a speaker from e.g. JBL 3" vs 12" subwoofer speaker, the 12" would be wwwwwwwwwway better as size does matter even if it's the same build quality :D
Listening with: Sennheiser GSP 550 connected to Sennheiser GSX 1000 Amplifier I've got it set in 2.0, that sound is phenomenal for such a little sub, that enclosure is doing work.
@@HexiBase two pieces should be produced for a truck of mine in two weeks. Have you been thinking to design high audio quality bluetooth speaker? I believe you could make JBL run for its money...
@@vahvelpoiss Well finally today I have got the speakers from USA and one box is being printed as we speak. I plan to run these woofers over the Pioneer DEH-P77MP head unit and use RCA output to run hertz Mille Pro 3 way speakers over Audio System Twister F4-600 amp. And I plan to use two unused channels from amplifier to power up hidden 12" subwoofer under the passenger seat. But I hope that these micro subwoofers will do pretty good job when ran over head unit...
You’re very articulate I appreciate it. You should experiment with large printer nozzles, .6mm or .8mm, to cut your print times potentially in half. These files do not have any features smaller than those nozzle dimensions so you will have no loss in print quality.
Pure genius.. technically, aesthetically and sonically.. When someone does something as good as this, it always makes me jealous of their brilliance. Great work.. :0)
I listened using both a pair of KZ ZSR's (over APTX cable) and a pair of Koss Pro-4AA's. This is a big improvement over the earlier iteration. It does not ring quite so much and and sounds cleaner. I think this is because of less intermodulation distortion due to less ringing. If you can get that DSP to protect the driver from bottoming out and add a nice tweeter (perhaps one of the Dayton pleated ones) you would have a good prototype IMO. If you really want to kick it up a notch, perhaps a variable volume waveguide would allow lower tuning at low volume. No clue how to build or control that though, but however it might be done would most easily be figured out via 3d printing. My first idea would be to split the guide at the glue line and put a butterfly valve in one half.
Very very cool i am so impressed with how far audio has advanced in 20 to 30 years especially the enclosures. I lost quite a bit traction due to being in the military for 2 decades. I am trying to get back into the whole audiophile shoes and I enjoy as well trying to gather as much knowledge as possible from your videos. Ty.
With the mic in the middle of the room you'll get a node at the rooms resonant freq. It's also why the bass volume increased when he went to the opposing corner and got antinondes
I have Focal headphones and that sounded really good. Not the bass response you would expect from a 3 inch driver. Good deep sounding bass. Impressive.
Dude, the design is sick! I didn't expect a mini sub can produce such deep audio. I'm only using USB headphones for communication and it sounded so awesome. Made me subscribed. Thanks for the info. Can't wait to build one myself.
Would really like to see this. Maybe with a built in amp and lpf. But the enclosure is specifically tuned to the sub. Unless every subwoofer is manufactured with the exact same specs - which I don’t think they are - every box has to also be slightly tweaked and matched with a sub.
MSH68 > The only small problem would be manufacturing time. 'Each side takes about 45hrs to complete' so thats 90hrs total print time. While I'm sure Part-Express may have access to larger, faster, print machines, like SLA, that may knock the total print time down considerably would they still be able to produce enough and at speed to match orders? What would the sellable price be after material costs/maintenance costs & time to print, especially compared to the price of the speaker. They are very cool tho......
On headphones. Sounds great. I like that you include some audio of you talking or yelling while listening to give a sense of how loud it is. I know spls levels says too but hearing it works well. This has opened my eyes to small subs!
Listening to this on my Logi Z906 5.1 It sounds amazing, lows are strong and deep and the mids actually get covered well, a tweeter crossed with this to cover the highs would sound perfect
High end speaker manufactures are watching and taking notes. I wont be surprised if they start making 3D printed speakers soon. As they can make any shape and tweak it to perfection. Just like you do. Well done!
Hi! I was wondering what did you do with it now almost 2 years after you made it? How's the durability of the enclosure it self if you use it everyday as a subwoofer? Cause I came across your youtube channel and saw this project of yours. It's very interesting. Thank you kindly for your answer or update on this. Cheers!
This is my first time stumbling across your channel and i 3d print myself and enjoy seeing what other people are making!! This is how you do it this is how you show people the power of 3d printing! Great vid great process exactly how id do it!
is there any other subwoofer that is equivalent to this one but for a lower price? I see the mentioned subwoofer has been increased in price quite a lot in 2 years
No it wouldn't, this configuration is extremely expensive on the commercial market. only the highest quality enclosures will even attempt to utilize this configuration. Definitive Technology liked to use this but they're not small, not light weight, and most certainly arent cheap.
Old bose wave series have been there / done that. Great reviews, but priced themselves out of the market. Like 400$ for what was basically an am/FM alarm clock. That said, this style of enclosure is fairly inexpensive if made with an injection mold. It just comes down to sales scale to cover engineering and tooling costs. Enclosure would be roughly 10-15$ each if more than 50,000 units were produced. Now the focus for the key speaker and drivers are where the real price and sound quality differentiators are found. But I'm not going to speculate for this as there are way too many variables here.
...or imagine he _Designs_ an enclosure based on .... the most popular, INEXPENSIVE, drivers. But he is in THE JOB of designing based on these types of premium drivers. (...I know, I know, kinda like putting a ford motor in a mercedes...)
I can't believe how much bass this 3" driver is putting out. It sounds incredible. I'm listening to this on my PC using my Monoprice Modern Retro headphones, powered via an FX-Audio DAC-X6. It sounds incredible. This would be amazing for under-seat car use. I'm trying to imagine two of these under the front seats. Such low wattage is required, one could probably use a super tiny amp in the glovebox or something.
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@@HexiBase Looking forward to it very much. On the same note, you have great taste in music, unlike some of the silly old sloths with their cheesy/sappy Norah Jones/Celine Dion collection that frequents the audiophile arena.
This is actually my third time through this video. My day-to-day listening is done through a reasonably good, compact domestic stereo system which suffices well for casual listening and this cab sounded great through it. So this time I fired up my 'for realsies' rig which is an RME Babyface interface and a pair of Mackie HR824 MK2's and I was surprised even further. The really high RMS, compressed stuff turned to mush quickly but the stuff with the wider dynamic range was really impressive. So much so that I've started to have ideas of my own. Thanks.
@@peterdarr383 at the size of a 12" box, you could build this in wood easily. (Wouldn't work btw, you can't just upscale and use a different chassis. You could however design another tml for a 12" driver. This would be absolutely huge though.)
A great video as usual! It looks like the enclosure is some sort of straight-line transmission line. Could you perhaps make a video about t-lines and maybe even a bit on designing t-lines in the future? I wonder what your take on things are, being a professional speaker designer. Thanks again for sharing your insights with us!
@@TheDtaylor1 I wonder how much you'd have to alter? not just the size, but for other changes to the wave. either way that would be kinda dope. It may need to be huge to get enough volume though
@@TheDtaylor1 No it coudn't, as there is no 12" that has the same TSP's as the Tang Band 3", just upscaled. At least that would be pretty miraculous if ther would be. But you could use the same principle to build an enclosure for a 12". That would be pretty big and heavy though.
Nice design. My critique concerns your script reading which sounds like you are reading and in a hurry so the pentameter has an uneven cadence and your volume level falls off as you run out of breath. You spend so much time going over every detail and refining your work that I feel you would appreciate the observation as helpful. I think Dr. Bose would enjoy your Sub Woofer design.
This is a perfect test for my product I'm designing! Always wanted to know if PLA could work and you certainly showed it does!! Many thanks for such a great detailed video :)
I'm an audio engineer listening through a set of MDR 7506 cans: good frequency response to my ears. Possibly a bit over-pronounced in a few places, but that's unavoidable on ported designs and might also be the room rather than the speaker. Also, it's hardly fair to compare this to something like a £300 studio quality sub so I won't. For the cost I'd say this is excellent; great job!
I’m sure it can be scaled, only limited by the size of the 3D printer you can get ahold of. It looked like his box was the same size as his tray, so its footprint couldn’t get bigger. I’m not sure if he could design it (acoustically) to fit it on that tray with a larger 6.5 or 8 inch.
@@talonpilot since it was designed in halves, in sure it could be scaled and printed in quarters, biggest limitation would be the adhesive used to keep it together.
I was thinking the same thing for scaling, but for a 6x9 instead. It would certainly make my trucks sound much better without needing to go to some specialty sub setup.
Very awesome design. Just a question: this is a T-line design. from the STL file, I can see the 1/4 wave length of the 55Hz Fs. But what I find strange, the cone surface area is 27cm2, but the transmition line cross-sectional area is closer to 17cm2. is there a reason why the design is less than the driver? or purely due to size constraints of the printer bed, you had to reduce the size?
Back in '95 I took some ADS 300i car speakers and added a half inch more material to a cabinet I found, (total 1" thick material) then turned it so the speakers were on the narrow side, & routed out the space for them to be inset. After starting to test, I had NO bass, because they were intended for car doors which aren't sealed. I did a port on the front and one on the back, used some plastic pipe for tuning, and lo and behold, they went down to 28 hz! The only problem was I couldn't go very loud because they would distort easily (they were from the 80's after all), but they worked great with a separate sub. Later I replaced the dome tweeters with Linaeum ribbon tweeters (they had a 2" dipole figure 8 configuration) that were routed into the top of the speakers. They actually had great presence with a wide open sound stage. They lacked a bit of mid bass, so I made the sub go a little higher in the x-over. I lucked out they sounded good. No computer, no test equipment; just lucky guesses.
Listening through my AKG K52 headsets connected to Artesia A22XT audio interface. Gotta say, felt like i am inside a subwoffer. Clean and transparent sound. Awesome job.
You could just take a mould of the two halves and cast the whole thing in all manner of materials. What would a dense superfine casting plaster do to the sound?
lmao, I surely hope u were being sarcastic, ever 4 or 40 of that tiny speaker will be anything but "mega bass" of course, maybe if u were a smurf tho.. so r u a smurf?
@@JonHunter80for me I like the smooth sound, not to tweetery not to bassy. It just sounded good, for the music I would be playing non of which needs hard pounding bass.
I have a dayton UM10 in a similar sort of contraption. Big folded bass horn assembled with plywood/screws/glue/etc. Powered by a 1KW crown amp. Box provides pretty good loading down to ~25hz. Sensitivity is very high at ~93dB@1W1M from ~30-80hz.
Hey my dude. If no one is gonna give you props on the V-Moda shoutout, here I AM! They seriously need to bankrupt beats by dre. Only thing I have issue with thier products is the inner cord like to herniate out of the outer kevlar weave; but if left alone it causes no issue, just ugly and annoying. ✌️👍
you could also maybe trying doing one with the B&C 4CXN36 4" coax driver for a full range version, they're on parts express they also have a waterproof coating, combine that with a protective front grill, some 18650 batteries, DC/DC converter, amp board, bluetooth module, and you have a beast of a bluetooth speaker
God damn just looked at the response curve the HF is 13db more sensitive than the LF , going to need a big ass L-Pad or go active X-Over to bring it back level with the mid lol
@@wow1022 You'll never ever find a 4 inch mid-range with 99dB efficiency so I guess It's inherent with the design, but yes I agree I like the point source sound, much less phase issues to correct with DSP!
That bass is tight with nearly no muddiness! I think the sub may be better than you think it is. You might want to test with bass traps in the corners to get rid of that leftover muddiness. TBH I'm nitpicking. For a 3 inch sub, this was much better than I expected.
Bose has been utilizing psychoacoustics and dsp forever to make their equipment sell. Notice I didn’t say anything about how well it sounds. Met Dr. Amar Bose at CES back in 1980’s. Nice guy.
MichiJim C and they are masters of marketing their products towards a certain group of customers that buy based on name recognition. Thats why the advertise in playboy and not in audiophile magazines. And they try to push the “easy use” of their stuff like the lifestyle systems that sound like garbage. Easiest way to sell Bose is to not play and demo the stuff. Its just to talk about the name. During all my years as selling and giving customers demos.... i never had a person like the Bose durning a listening test if I didn’t tell them what the product was that was playing
@@romank1099 you could probably make one tuned higher with a Waves MaxBass processor which would "fake" the low notes from harmonics if you wanted more SPL before exceeding cone excursion. The increased harmonic content would muddy the lower notes though, making it sound more like a bass guitar with the tone control at minimum.
@@caseytbss I am the proud owner of a Wave Music System III, Acoustic Wave Music System II, 301 series 4, 201 series 5, Quiet Comfort 35 II, SoundSport Wireless, Soundlink Color II, and an Acoustimass 5 series II speaker system. I love every single one of them. Bose is truly an amazing company that truly knows what quality, and audio fidelity really are. Your hate is not needed here, so kindly GTFO and get back in moms basement. Thank you very much, and have a great day 😘😘
I made one of these. On the upside, it's the largest most perfect print I've ever done. Took around 38 hours and roughly 700g of filament each half. On the down side, for what I paid between the sub and the filament, I probably could have bought a better sounding sub. It sounds just like a 3" subwoofer would expect to sound. Definitely not that tight bass you get from one of those bose systems. The design itself is actually very nice. Wish there were holes for the sub mounting screws. I ended up putting in brass inserts which I probably should have practiced some before trying on the 70+ hour sub enclosure.. lol. It was a fun project, just maybe had my expectations a little high.
Hey, you could try printing it and pausing the print right before the top layers. You can even embed a pause command in the gcode. Then fill it with fine concrete or something similar and continue printing. Then you have an heavy solid Woofer! :)
This is almost exactly how Bose stereos always sound so good, because they take small speakers and make good enclosures for them. I'm not downplaying your design here obviously, I'm just saying that if you've ever disassembled a Bose speaker enclosure, this is almost exactly how they're laid out.
Listened using the bose 700.. was surprised with the amount and depth of bass. Even more surprising was the fact that it was handling the other higher frequencies well. Awesome work !!..
You could add mass by leaving these hollow and filling the void with epoxy concrete (resin and aggregate). You could add a lot of mass by using ball bearings instead of pebbles for the aggregate.
That's a pretty mean little sub box. That must also be a pretty nice microphone. I plugged my phone in to my klipsch system and the subs were overpowering the hell out of the monitors.
Have you considered the effect the enclosure's material might be having on the sound? Would a more rigid material like carbon fiber make a difference here?
I'm listening to this on JBL boom Box Set to indoor mode and it sounds amazing. When your microphone was closest to the speaker I could feel the music vibrating throughout my house. The singer's voice was clear and undistorted. Also the base was very deep without causing. distortion.
or even better. Like most 3d print people. Sell the file for a small charge and release it.... The whole point of 3d printing is to make stuff cheaper and easier than ordering it.
very similar ideas like the "bose wave" have already been patented since atleast 2004. like he stated its more of a proof of concept that a 3D printer can produce a working model from home and it is acoustically practical.
Man, I'm using my Galaxy Buds, I wanted to close my eyes, and drift asleep. That sounded great for a 3" subwoofer. I know it's hard to really detail it over headphones versus in person but damn it sounded good.
@@ronaldgonzalez9161 supposedly there is a note in the infra sound range called the “brown note” for reasons you can probably imagine. There are also other frequencies that are proving to be therapeutic for some conditions.
@@HexiBase My audio engineering knowledge is very low so if you don't mind, can you suggest a high range driver to pair with this 3" subwoofer to make this a fuller range setup? I'd love to put my Prusa to work and build a full range speaker setup + amplifier.
This is probably the best thing I've found on the internet in a long time.
Exactly suited a problem I had.
I was looking for an extremely small sub that fits under my computer desk and that delivers heavy nice bass even at low volumes.
So I printed my own small two-channel speakers and this wonderful subwoofer.
So now I have a compact 2.1 system that performs well with deep bass even at very low volume.
So many thanks for sharing your design.
I'm trying to figure out if I need to put a passive low pass crossover on it. I'm ordering the sub. Did you just let it go full range? Was thinking about a 100hz low pass.
how big is your enclosure?
@@itspoffy regardless of what enclosure is in, a subwoofer shouldn't get the full range. A NE5532 pre-amplifier module costs a few bucks, use that as a low pass filter.
It goes deeper than my Microlab FC330, but not sure about max SPL.
It sounds exactly like the iPad I’m using
Only going to be as good as your speakers. My headphones definitely aren't getting all of it. The bass is pretty impressive for such a small sub.
@@noahpaulette1490 ... that's the joke...
Also, RUclips's audio compression is terrible.
I'm listening on a edifier 2000db (with no sub) and it seems to be reproducing as deep a bass as I'm comfortable with at home
People are really missing the joke lol
3 years later I finally printed this on my X1 Carbon. Took only 13 hours total and sounds awesome! I took apart a logitech z313 sub and printed housings for the components that were inside. Nothing fancy but sounds good enough for now.
how would you rate it compared to a bigger sub?
@@RandoWisLuLI think the question is how does it compare to a typical cabinet with normal port. A lot more bass extension! you'll never get the same feel as a bigger sub
@@3D1ofakind true
Holy shnikes! That goes DEEP for a 3"! (That's what she said).
Kevin Hannon lmaooo
Oh yeah buddy it sure sounds like you know from experience.... Haha krayakray......!!!!!!
Austin Sears I'm surprised your Mom didn't tell you... I'm going to be your new dad.
Austin Sears Oh dude, that was years ago! The state made us stop. They said it was "Illegal". 🙄 What do they know!?
You may laugh
I remember when you had the first design and people were complaining that you didn't provide the STL. Well, you my friend delivered once you refined it. Thanks for the follow through. Amazing work.
Somebody in china watched this...woo...look this and make 3 million copies!!
haha i am form China and i am planning going to ... BTW i have more than 20 prusa 3d printers
@@michaeltualatin The fact that you are using european machines is very impressive x'D
@@moombathepilot7608 european machines made in china to make subwoofers for sale in europe 😅
@@antonainportekwa6482 Exactly :))))))
@@michaeltualatin can you link I’m interested in this
Everyone's saying they want to see this for a 10 or 12, but I'd love to see what a 6.5" sub from Sundown Audio or similar could do.
Just viee a bose. Same settup just been around doing itv20yrs earlier
Itd probably hit way harder than 90% of single 10 or 12 setups. I'm pretty sure there was a guy who got 150db on 2 of them
Trevor MTB 60% box
30% amp
10% sub's
There's people who have won comps with Sony xplodes over guys with DC sundown etc
@@lilrich1243 yeah for sure it's mostly the box but still 150db on such tiny cone area is crazy impressive
speakers if properly made they need size to shine, so a speaker from e.g. JBL 3" vs 12" subwoofer speaker, the 12" would be wwwwwwwwwway better as size does matter even if it's the same build quality :D
The sound is incredible for such a tiny driver. Really impressed with its performance 👌
It's Tang band. All of their stuff is awesome
Listening with: Sennheiser GSP 550 connected to Sennheiser GSX 1000 Amplifier
I've got it set in 2.0, that sound is phenomenal for such a little sub, that enclosure is doing work.
Thank you for posting the stl files. Your a gentleman and a scholar
Do you happen to know how much plastic you used?
Indeed! I love this channel and what they are doing. A true labor of love, you can tell from his dedication and professionalism!
@@HexiBase two pieces should be produced for a truck of mine in two weeks. Have you been thinking to design high audio quality bluetooth speaker? I believe you could make JBL run for its money...
@@lamazver how far is that setup for a truck? possible to get a video demo for yours?
@@vahvelpoiss Well finally today I have got the speakers from USA and one box is being printed as we speak. I plan to run these woofers over the Pioneer DEH-P77MP head unit and use RCA output to run hertz Mille Pro 3 way speakers over Audio System Twister F4-600 amp. And I plan to use two unused channels from amplifier to power up hidden 12" subwoofer under the passenger seat.
But I hope that these micro subwoofers will do pretty good job when ran over head unit...
You’re very articulate I appreciate it. You should experiment with large printer nozzles, .6mm or .8mm, to cut your print times potentially in half. These files do not have any features smaller than those nozzle dimensions so you will have no loss in print quality.
I built one and it is amazing! Unbelievable bass quality for such a small subwoofer. Thanks!
Vids, or it never happened....
@@davelowets There are files in description, simply download and print?
Pure genius.. technically, aesthetically and sonically.. When someone does something as good as this, it always makes me jealous of their brilliance. Great work.. :0)
Check out KEF's new Sub 62..... dual 6" that hit 105db and down to 11hz
What a great power box you made there dude, you seem to be very intelligent and friendly, more people need to discover you as a RUclipsr! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Holy shit I didn't even know my earphones could go this deep. This is drool worthy
and theres probably at least 40 hz worth of deeper notes that your earphones wont play
@@dojostarfox4520 need a 15" in the 'Lac boiiiiii
I listened the track itself and this video has way more bass. Would love this bass on every track
Forget what i just said😅 stupid me was listening to the wrong tack🤦🏼♂️
Just use some EQ on the sound, that's all this is doing to your headphones.
I was honestly not at all expecting that! Yes there is a lot of bass but mainly it is very rich and emotional! Great work!
I listened using both a pair of KZ ZSR's (over APTX cable) and a pair of Koss Pro-4AA's. This is a big improvement over the earlier iteration. It does not ring quite so much and and sounds cleaner. I think this is because of less intermodulation distortion due to less ringing. If you can get that DSP to protect the driver from bottoming out and add a nice tweeter (perhaps one of the Dayton pleated ones) you would have a good prototype IMO.
If you really want to kick it up a notch, perhaps a variable volume waveguide would allow lower tuning at low volume. No clue how to build or control that though, but however it might be done would most easily be figured out via 3d printing. My first idea would be to split the guide at the glue line and put a butterfly valve in one half.
James Drissel no one commented because they can’t beat your intelligence. I just commented to state that fact 💀
Very very cool i am so impressed with how far audio has advanced in 20 to 30 years especially the enclosures. I lost quite a bit traction due to being in the military for 2 decades. I am trying to get back into the whole audiophile shoes and I enjoy as well trying to gather as much knowledge as possible from your videos. Ty.
The military put the pause on my life too. Thanks for your service.
With the mic in the middle of the room you'll get a node at the rooms resonant freq. It's also why the bass volume increased when he went to the opposing corner and got antinondes
I have Focal headphones and that sounded really good. Not the bass response you would expect from a 3 inch driver. Good deep sounding bass. Impressive.
Dude, the design is sick! I didn't expect a mini sub can produce such deep audio. I'm only using USB headphones for communication and it sounded so awesome. Made me subscribed. Thanks for the info. Can't wait to build one myself.
Very impressive Pete!
I think this is a no-brainer as a marketable kit available thru Parts-Express.
Pitch it to them!
I'd buy a pair!
I would buy too
Probably not all he wants to do with it yet, I'm sure there will be a tweeter and a crossover too.
Would really like to see this. Maybe with a built in amp and lpf.
But the enclosure is specifically tuned to the sub. Unless every subwoofer is manufactured with the exact same specs - which I don’t think they are - every box has to also be slightly tweaked and matched with a sub.
MSH68 > The only small problem would be manufacturing time. 'Each side takes about 45hrs to complete' so thats 90hrs total print time. While I'm sure Part-Express may have access to larger, faster, print machines, like SLA, that may knock the total print time down considerably would they still be able to produce enough and at speed to match orders? What would the sellable price be after material costs/maintenance costs & time to print, especially compared to the price of the speaker.
They are very cool tho......
I just printed this speaker enclosure out and absolutely love it. Thank you HexiBase for the share.
Just for reference, how much would you say the total cost of the filament alone was?
@@TXFoolery You need around 1,2 kg of filament. I printed it out of PETG and it cost me about 40€.
Not going to lie. This man sounds like a younger Doofenschmirtz
ha ha he does,but he made a cool bassinator
Lol 😂
@@420jacksonian ha ha ha ha ha ha, damn you perry the platypus!!
This seems pointless to watch on my phone.
Get a Bluetooth headphones...
@@SolarizeYourLife why not wired ones?
@@suleman241 Long term reliability.
@@lordvalen8133 the batteries will probably wear out. The cables will last for over 10 years if you take good care of them 😉
@@suleman241 it's Broken? Buy Another One! Bluetooth is the way to go. Wires are dead
I have cheap headphones on and can hear the quality bass output. Nice!
This video literally got me into audio at large. I never realized how much calculation and design went into making a speaker enclosure. Thanks!
You mean audio at small?
@@henryknox4511 😂 took me a second
Man.. he should sell these. Id pay a good amount for one. Also. I'd like to see one playing from inside a car.
I'd make a wall of as many as I can
thought the same thing. I would have one of these in my car haha
He has uploaded the sti file, so it can be upscaled for an 18 incher
@@everdark8399 18" driver??
@@hjartland ya
This would be the perfect little sub unit for my Yaris. Damned impressive.
On headphones. Sounds great. I like that you include some audio of you talking or yelling while listening to give a sense of how loud it is. I know spls levels says too but hearing it works well. This has opened my eyes to small subs!
Very cool! I love the design. The iPad and recording clearly can’t replicate what you were able to do in your listening room. A great project!
Listening to this on my Logi Z906 5.1 It sounds amazing, lows are strong and deep and the mids actually get covered well, a tweeter crossed with this to cover the highs would sound perfect
High end speaker manufactures are watching and taking notes. I wont be surprised if they start making 3D printed speakers soon. As they can make any shape and tweak it to perfection. Just like you do. Well done!
Ya, I don’t think so.
Hi! I was wondering what did you do with it now almost 2 years after you made it? How's the durability of the enclosure it self if you use it everyday as a subwoofer? Cause I came across your youtube channel and saw this project of yours. It's very interesting. Thank you kindly for your answer or update on this. Cheers!
Very impressive. I would like to see this integrated into a car hi-fi setup.
Yeah, I wanna see under seat performance.
two of these in my 370z would be amazing
I think I’m gonna make a couple of the dual driver versions for my Jeep
This is my first time stumbling across your channel and i 3d print myself and enjoy seeing what other people are making!! This is how you do it this is how you show people the power of 3d printing! Great vid great process exactly how id do it!
is there any other subwoofer that is equivalent to this one but for a lower price? I see the mentioned subwoofer has been increased in price quite a lot in 2 years
That’s a lot of bass for a three inch
Sub great job man
As soon as I heard how much info he gave and 3D printer,subscribed instantly 👍🏻
man imagine this sub with a tweeter a mid driver in one little box. It would absolutely dominate the portable speaker market
No it wouldn't, this configuration is extremely expensive on the commercial market. only the highest quality enclosures will even attempt to utilize this configuration. Definitive Technology liked to use this but they're not small, not light weight, and most certainly arent cheap.
@@beaumontlivingston8084 materials cost is extremely low, all we need is some more advancement in fast 3d printing
Old bose wave series have been there / done that. Great reviews, but priced themselves out of the market. Like 400$ for what was basically an am/FM alarm clock.
That said, this style of enclosure is fairly inexpensive if made with an injection mold. It just comes down to sales scale to cover engineering and tooling costs. Enclosure would be roughly 10-15$ each if more than 50,000 units were produced.
Now the focus for the key speaker and drivers are where the real price and sound quality differentiators are found. But I'm not going to speculate for this as there are way too many variables here.
...or imagine he _Designs_ an enclosure based on .... the most popular, INEXPENSIVE, drivers. But he is in THE JOB of designing based on these types of premium drivers. (...I know, I know, kinda like putting a ford motor in a mercedes...)
...maybe more like a Lamborghini....
I can't believe how much bass this 3" driver is putting out. It sounds incredible. I'm listening to this on my PC using my Monoprice Modern Retro headphones, powered via an FX-Audio DAC-X6. It sounds incredible. This would be amazing for under-seat car use. I'm trying to imagine two of these under the front seats. Such low wattage is required, one could probably use a super tiny amp in the glovebox or something.
One lesson I was always taught that you can do more with less but this is outstanding
OK RUclips, I freaking watched it! Get off my back! A month of pushing!
Hover over title when 3 dots appear click on them go down list to Not interested or Don't recommend channel. This works on main page or sidebar recommends.
@@tyleranderson9866 lol, thanks. I have been on this platform since before Google. It was a joke but thanks for the reply.
@@HangTimeDeluxe Yes I have been using this platform "RUclips" since before Google bought it. A little clearer for you?
I'd like to see one of these with a 8-10" sub which is good down to 20Hz @110db!
Hexi’s old videos showed him running a 6” sub in a T-line. That thing fooled a lot of people in his car.
my opinion, nothing it better that a sealed enclosure
@@matthewf1979 Yep, T-lines can be crazy good. You should check out some of Tom Danley's designs.
@@HexiBase Good to hear Hexi.
@@HexiBase Looking forward to it very much. On the same note, you have great taste in music, unlike some of the silly old sloths with their cheesy/sappy Norah Jones/Celine Dion collection that frequents the audiophile arena.
This is actually my third time through this video. My day-to-day listening is done through a reasonably good, compact domestic stereo system which suffices well for casual listening and this cab sounded great through it. So this time I fired up my 'for realsies' rig which is an RME Babyface interface and a pair of Mackie HR824 MK2's and I was surprised even further. The really high RMS, compressed stuff turned to mush quickly but the stuff with the wider dynamic range was really impressive. So much so that I've started to have ideas of my own. Thanks.
Cool way to fit perfectly a sub under car seats
May the car under seat subwoofers, should work better than it
@Birdkillersteve So you had 3D printer back in the 80' allready?? Nice job man.
@@terot8341 lol
Scale this to a 12” and I’d be interested in purchasing plans.
yes please!
they don't make printers that big
Peter Darr not true, they are using big enough ones to print houses with cement.
@@peterdarr383 it could be separated into 4 pieces for printing.
@@peterdarr383 at the size of a 12" box, you could build this in wood easily. (Wouldn't work btw, you can't just upscale and use a different chassis. You could however design another tml for a 12" driver. This would be absolutely huge though.)
It's actually more than I expected with 3 inch sub. Great built man 👌
A great video as usual! It looks like the enclosure is some sort of straight-line transmission line. Could you perhaps make a video about t-lines and maybe even a bit on designing t-lines in the future? I wonder what your take on things are, being a professional speaker designer.
Thanks again for sharing your insights with us!
@@HexiBase very interesting how you managed to combine the two of them. Stoked for the next video!
"Hey! What'ya got in that thing? A couple of twelves?"
"No, a pair of threes."
"Come again!?"
Actually could this be scaled up to run with 12s. I know it would be harder to print but maybe cnc milled layers of mdf
LOL
@@TheDtaylor1 I wonder how much you'd have to alter? not just the size, but for other changes to the wave. either way that would be kinda dope.
It may need to be huge to get enough volume though
I thought i was going small with 4 6.5s
@@TheDtaylor1 No it coudn't, as there is no 12" that has the same TSP's as the Tang Band 3", just upscaled. At least that would be pretty miraculous if ther would be. But you could use the same principle to build an enclosure for a 12". That would be pretty big and heavy though.
Nice design. My critique concerns your script reading which sounds like you are reading and in a hurry so the pentameter has an uneven cadence and your volume level falls off as you run out of breath. You spend so much time going over every detail and refining your work that I feel you would appreciate the observation as helpful. I think Dr. Bose would enjoy your Sub Woofer design.
That's DEEP AF. Also you a gentleman for giving us that Stl file. Thanks
This is a perfect test for my product I'm designing! Always wanted to know if PLA could work and you certainly showed it does!! Many thanks for such a great detailed video :)
I'm an audio engineer listening through a set of MDR 7506 cans: good frequency response to my ears. Possibly a bit over-pronounced in a few places, but that's unavoidable on ported designs and might also be the room rather than the speaker. Also, it's hardly fair to compare this to something like a £300 studio quality sub so I won't. For the cost I'd say this is excellent; great job!
Soooo, does this scale? It seems like you could have a super compact 6.5" - 8" box that would blow the doors off 10's and 12's in a car.
I’m sure it can be scaled, only limited by the size of the 3D printer you can get ahold of. It looked like his box was the same size as his tray, so its footprint couldn’t get bigger. I’m not sure if he could design it (acoustically) to fit it on that tray with a larger 6.5 or 8 inch.
@@talonpilot since it was designed in halves, in sure it could be scaled and printed in quarters, biggest limitation would be the adhesive used to keep it together.
I was thinking the same thing for scaling, but for a 6x9 instead. It would certainly make my trucks sound much better without needing to go to some specialty sub setup.
@@incredulousd9408 I was thinking the same thing.
It works. I run a single 6.5 inch sub. Hits like a 15.
Very awesome design. Just a question: this is a T-line design. from the STL file, I can see the 1/4 wave length of the 55Hz Fs. But what I find strange, the cone surface area is 27cm2, but the transmition line cross-sectional area is closer to 17cm2. is there a reason why the design is less than the driver? or purely due to size constraints of the printer bed, you had to reduce the size?
Back in '95 I took some ADS 300i car speakers and added a half inch more material to a cabinet I found, (total 1" thick material) then turned it so the speakers were on the narrow side, & routed out the space for them to be inset. After starting to test, I had NO bass, because they were intended for car doors which aren't sealed. I did a port on the front and one on the back, used some plastic pipe for tuning, and lo and behold, they went down to 28 hz! The only problem was I couldn't go very loud because they would distort easily (they were from the 80's after all), but they worked great with a separate sub. Later I replaced the dome tweeters with Linaeum ribbon tweeters (they had a 2" dipole figure 8 configuration) that were routed into the top of the speakers. They actually had great presence with a wide open sound stage. They lacked a bit of mid bass, so I made the sub go a little higher in the x-over. I lucked out they sounded good. No computer, no test equipment; just lucky guesses.
Nice work! You'r the diamond in ocean of idiots, who try to do acostics. Do more.
It’s acoustics not acostic who’s the idiot here
I love this coment 😜
@@satanas666reyna3 I'm not sorry. I used to learn English by video games and blockbusters. ))
Satanas Hell lol he missed a letter. Who gives a fuck
KMP Engineering zvuk Praha nobody cares.
I've never herd the engineering design process called the "spin cycle" before
Patrick Zath heard*?
often called "iterative" process
It's used in metal work to my knowledge (spin > lathe). Outside that I've also heard it used in the mastering process for vinyl records.
@@enlightendbel It's a very basic principle for almost every design process...
@@TheEchelon and?
Listening through my AKG K52 headsets connected to Artesia A22XT audio interface. Gotta say, felt like i am inside a subwoffer. Clean and transparent sound. Awesome job.
print it hollow, instead with infill, use a thicker wall.. then cast epoxy into the PLA cavity or fill it with sand..
Would sand affect the sound quality?
You could just take a mould of the two halves and cast the whole thing in all manner of materials. What would a dense superfine casting plaster do to the sound?
@@ThePatternJugglers HAhahaahaahaha........
@@christopherroberts22 did you have an aneurysm
@@fakename287 Awesome ! Haggagag.... Twat nugget ..
I'd be tempted to make silicone molds of each print, and cast a couple out of concrete.
yep.. stealing this. thank you
concrete doesn´t swing good
@@florian191 thats what you want. :D
@@Alexander85500 wouldn't it be better to use cement? Concrete has rocks and stuff.
@@noahpaulette1490 cement is just a binder, concrete is the set product and can be made without gravel
This is incredible sound from 3"
awesome ! i want 4 of them, under every seat in my car, super stealth mega bass !
I know that's right. I listen to a lot of ENIGMA and sound is perfect.
My exact thought.
lmao, I surely hope u were being sarcastic, ever 4 or 40 of that tiny speaker will be anything but "mega bass" of course, maybe if u were a smurf tho.. so r u a smurf?
@@JonHunter80for me I like the smooth sound, not to tweetery not to bassy. It just sounded good, for the music I would be playing non of which needs hard pounding bass.
Awesome idea!
Awesome work
Tesla coil 😃
Bzzzzt!!
Fancy seeing you here! :)
Hey can I come live with you franzoli
This guy is amazing! Don't know how I stumbled on this video but I am glad I did! Great work👍
Sounds awesome, I would love to see this scaled up to an 8 or 10 inch driver.
Listening on v-moda crossfade 2's
A 10 inch would make the house tear apart haha
Please scale it up to 10 inches and make measurements 👍👍👍👍👍
I have a dayton UM10 in a similar sort of contraption. Big folded bass horn assembled with plywood/screws/glue/etc. Powered by a 1KW crown amp. Box provides pretty good loading down to ~25hz. Sensitivity is very high at ~93dB@1W1M from ~30-80hz.
Hey my dude. If no one is gonna give you props on the V-Moda shoutout, here I AM! They seriously need to bankrupt beats by dre. Only thing I have issue with thier products is the inner cord like to herniate out of the outer kevlar weave; but if left alone it causes no issue, just ugly and annoying. ✌️👍
are the V moda as good as they say? been seeing em and hearing hype on em for a while.. i want a hands on opinion tho.
Im living in a relatively poor country😂 im having the dream of making good and affordable sound bars
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You’re welcome.
Is it pakistan...? My dear frend.
@McDonald Britto only ones that promote killing are the zionist banksters
@@horendominministiyani_club3503 no no those are actually worse😑OMG
Listening to your video through Yamaha MSP5 speaker. In the corner by the door @6mins sounds lovely to me! Loving your work :)
you could also maybe trying doing one with the B&C 4CXN36 4" coax driver for a full range version, they're on parts express
they also have a waterproof coating, combine that with a protective front grill, some 18650 batteries, DC/DC converter, amp board, bluetooth module, and you have a beast of a bluetooth speaker
That is a really interesting little driver you got there!
God damn just looked at the response curve the HF is 13db more sensitive than the LF , going to need a big ass L-Pad or go active X-Over to bring it back level with the mid lol
@@james8660 most coax speakers have this issue, but point source sound is great
@@wow1022 You'll never ever find a 4 inch mid-range with 99dB efficiency so I guess It's inherent with the design, but yes I agree I like the point source sound, much less phase issues to correct with DSP!
So thankful you had a dubstep track in there. Incredible....
That bass is tight with nearly no muddiness!
I think the sub may be better than you think it is. You might want to test with bass traps in the corners to get rid of that leftover muddiness. TBH I'm nitpicking. For a 3 inch sub, this was much better than I expected.
Listening device : Sony wh1000 xm3
And i have to say god dammmmnnnnnn
Bose QC25 here, it really impressed me.
Custom made DMLs here that hit down to 12hz flat, and I have to say this sub is pretty good!
Same here its crazy
I got sony wh-xb700
Bose is slowly clapping in the background.
Lol seriously very cool man.
No highs no lows?
3" sub/box + dsp = better than bose
Bose has been utilizing psychoacoustics and dsp forever to make their equipment sell. Notice I didn’t say anything about how well it sounds. Met Dr. Amar Bose at CES back in 1980’s. Nice guy.
MichiJim C and they are masters of marketing their products towards a certain group of customers that buy based on name recognition. Thats why the advertise in playboy and not in audiophile magazines. And they try to push the “easy use” of their stuff like the lifestyle systems that sound like garbage.
Easiest way to sell Bose is to not play and demo the stuff. Its just to talk about the name.
During all my years as selling and giving customers demos.... i never had a person like the Bose durning a listening test if I didn’t tell them what the product was that was playing
@@romank1099 you could probably make one tuned higher with a Waves MaxBass processor which would "fake" the low notes from harmonics if you wanted more SPL before exceeding cone excursion. The increased harmonic content would muddy the lower notes though, making it sound more like a bass guitar with the tone control at minimum.
@@caseytbss I am the proud owner of a Wave Music System III, Acoustic Wave Music System II, 301 series 4, 201 series 5, Quiet Comfort 35 II, SoundSport Wireless, Soundlink Color II, and an Acoustimass 5 series II speaker system. I love every single one of them. Bose is truly an amazing company that truly knows what quality, and audio fidelity really are. Your hate is not needed here, so kindly GTFO and get back in moms basement. Thank you very much, and have a great day 😘😘
I made one of these. On the upside, it's the largest most perfect print I've ever done. Took around 38 hours and roughly 700g of filament each half. On the down side, for what I paid between the sub and the filament, I probably could have bought a better sounding sub. It sounds just like a 3" subwoofer would expect to sound. Definitely not that tight bass you get from one of those bose systems. The design itself is actually very nice. Wish there were holes for the sub mounting screws. I ended up putting in brass inserts which I probably should have practiced some before trying on the 70+ hour sub enclosure.. lol. It was a fun project, just maybe had my expectations a little high.
Hey, you could try printing it and pausing the print right before the top layers. You can even embed a pause command in the gcode. Then fill it with fine concrete or something similar and continue printing. Then you have an heavy solid Woofer! :)
This is almost exactly how Bose stereos always sound so good, because they take small speakers and make good enclosures for them. I'm not downplaying your design here obviously, I'm just saying that if you've ever disassembled a Bose speaker enclosure, this is almost exactly how they're laid out.
bose car audio like in my Ferrari F430 sucks we call it BUY OTHER SOUND EQUIPMENT
Listened using the bose 700.. was surprised with the amount and depth of bass. Even more surprising was the fact that it was handling the other higher frequencies well.
Awesome work !!..
I'm listening with my Bluetooth headphones and the speaker sounds incredibly rich with very satisfying bass. I WANT ONE OF THESE SPEAKERS 😢
Me Too !
You could add mass by leaving these hollow and filling the void with epoxy concrete (resin and aggregate). You could add a lot of mass by using ball bearings instead of pebbles for the aggregate.
Good idea
That's a pretty mean little sub box. That must also be a pretty nice microphone. I plugged my phone in to my klipsch system and the subs were overpowering the hell out of the monitors.
3:09 that sounds thicker than my stone walls. Great quality!
I swapped from my iPad to my shop sound system to hear what everyone was raving about. Wow... that thing sounds amazing.
Congrats. You just made the coolest Bluetooth speaker.
Is It pretty much the idea Bose wave radios sub woofer chamber works?
Google transmission line speaker enclosure. You'll get an idea how it. Works.
Have you considered the effect the enclosure's material might be having on the sound? Would a more rigid material like carbon fiber make a difference here?
Id be interested to see MDF vs This PLA or whatever it was vs Carbon fiber or other rigid material
Resonance of carbon fiber is at a very high frequency. I have a CF hard hat and some CF panels for a barrier wall. Very high pitch “tinny” sound.
This, along with a good tweeter would be an absolutely baller little bookshelf build. Now I'm over here simming what can be done 🤔
Absolutely insane performance from a 3" driver.
Listened w/ MOTU M4 interface through:
- Audio Technica M-50x
- Aiaiai TMA-2 (s05 speaker)
That's impressive for a 3" driver. Listening on Sennheiser HD1.
I'm listening to this on JBL boom Box Set to indoor mode and it sounds amazing. When your microphone was closest to the speaker I could feel the music vibrating throughout my house. The singer's voice was clear and undistorted. Also the base was very deep without causing. distortion.
BRO you got a million dollar idea on your counter. PLEASE copyright you ideas and think about mass producing this. I promise you won’t regret it
Yeah I wanna put this in a Kia Picanto
or even better. Like most 3d print people. Sell the file for a small charge and release it.... The whole point of 3d printing is to make stuff cheaper and easier than ordering it.
very similar ideas like the "bose wave" have already been patented since atleast 2004. like he stated its more of a proof of concept that a 3D printer can produce a working model from home and it is acoustically practical.
Man, I'm using my Galaxy Buds, I wanted to close my eyes, and drift asleep. That sounded great for a 3" subwoofer. I know it's hard to really detail it over headphones versus in person but damn it sounded good.
"kind of like when you go to look up the tracking number for some cool thing you ordered" - truer words were never spoken! :-)
I have very limited space in my truck for a sub, so a design like this that I could put under the seat would be perfect
btw pair this with a couple 2 or 3 inch full range speakers for a great pc media setup.
it's not about the driver , 75% of quality is made by enclosure and amplifier , great job man!
I'd love to have two of these for my little two seater car, hopefully someone can make these available for purchase. 🤞
probably better off just running a single 8" sub
It would be interesting if this concept was scaled up to a 10 inch sub.
you would get some infra bass notes
@@danascoles1205 what is infra bass? I want to learn a little more and design a nice box for my sub in my car
@@ronaldgonzalez9161 below-audible freq. bass. basically the stuff you feel rather than hear
@@ronaldgonzalez9161 supposedly there is a note in the infra sound range called the “brown note” for reasons you can probably imagine. There are also other frequencies that are proving to be therapeutic for some conditions.
My 10" Klipsch subwoofer approves!!! Sounds incredible.
Very cool. Now I all i need is a 3D printer....and a 3" subwoofer and I am good to go! :D
@@HexiBase My audio engineering knowledge is very low so if you don't mind, can you suggest a high range driver to pair with this 3" subwoofer to make this a fuller range setup? I'd love to put my Prusa to work and build a full range speaker setup + amplifier.
dayton audio ribbon tweeter, relatively cheap regarding the sound quality provided.
@@HexiBase Love this. There's actually a huge market for under-the-front-seat subwoofers in vehicles. What are the OD dimensions of this build?
@@jnevercast www.daytonaudio.com Try here for starters