Seems like AC3 is the only Ace Combat game with realistic physics, even if the plane is controlled by AI. Trigger is a human and he just casually pulled 250 G’s in the Darkstar.
@@pooladjohnmoore9642 I've never played 3, or 2 for that matter, but I agree with you that 3 seems to have been the pinnacle in a lot of aspects. I would much prefer a civil discussion on why one disagrees with my thoughts, than being called delusional without an explanation. Am I being delusional for saying AC04 had pretty good physics (I'm not saying it's the best), or that everything after that (in terms of flight physics) has been in a downward spiral? Compared to AC04, 5 and zero had better graphics and other good things going for it, but landings/takeoffs had been noticeably dumbed down, and the ILS system doesn't work like it's supposed to. If believing that planes shouldn't suddenly snap to the ground upon touchdown or snap up to a 45° pitch attitude at a certain speed on takeoff is being delusional, then so be it.
Lmao Ace Combat has Lost Touch with the FEEL of SPEED, Jets shouldn’t even go from 300mph - 1300mph in a matter of seconds !!? That makes Higher Speeds seem Extremely underwhelming !?
AC3 is intimidating. Any special sequence has this build up leading to the event. The music gave that aspect more character. The new games do not and can never have that. The entire AC3 was like a special one off mission.
The launch sequence of the AC3 (blackbird?) Sure is unique ,since it is one of the one off missions plane in the game but in 7 the Darkstar was just thrown into the game as collab dlc and not part of the lore ,it's a shame that in later AC games there's not a single one off mission plane
AC3 and AC04 are the only two Ace Combats that really gives me the feeling of flying and fighting in stratosphere. People just don't know how things worked in Mach 2+ and 20,000m+ at all since the cold war ended. Every single "new" fighter jets are just SLOWER and LOWER to make them turning faster.
@@ReonLeon oh no, i was referring to the japanese version when i said i didnt get the geopelia or the laser after a ranking everything and the laser is in the western version as well, unlike the jp one where only geopelia can use it in the western one any plane can have it, you can see in the video the (upeo branded 💀) blackbird using it
@@dalelumina3 that's interesting. Again, it has been a long while since I played it as a kid like decades ago. Really hope bamco can get their nuts together and give us a remake of AC3
This always annoyed me after playing Zero. Ace Combat 6 absolutely holds your hands for taking off and landing, going so far as to snap your plane up 45° in pitch once you hit a certain speed. This behaviour made its way into 7 as well, as seen prominently on the Carrier takeoff.
That annoying feature comes from Assault Horizon actually, both AH and 7 have the same landing physics. AC6 lets you fully control the angle of attack while gliding to land. The annoying part is that as soon as you touch down, the plane starts to vibrate violently out of nowhere
@@Shattered_Skies it’s so Dumb and insulting to “long time players” or Just Players in general ! Screw Catering to Newcomers Now Ace Combat is a Meme fest and more of a joke, how to Recover From That ?
I love that they added the Darkstar as TopGun promotional content, but it's just too broken a plan for multiplayer it just ruins the fun. If its turning circle was really long like the Blackbird, then it would be more interesting in multiplayer.
As a purely high-altitude and high Mach enjoyer I just hate Darkstar. It just another super duper dogfighter with 10x speed. It's not a real interceptor at ALL! Actually IMO the best aircraft in AC7 that reproduced the feeling of flying a heavy and fast fighter jet is CFA-44. And she's my 2nd most used aircraft in PVP now (the 1st is F-15E because I can using her 6AAM plus super duper powerful General Electric™F110-GE-129™engines to f*cked everyone from dogfight to BVR).
Fun fact: AC3 is the only Ace Combat game that feature multiple battleskies: Regular atmosphere, Stratosphere, Space, even Electrosphere. Also it is *the most non-linear Ace Combat game ever* if you look up to its JP version (it has 4 different faction, 4 path, and 5 ending). No wonder Kazutoki Kono (director of Project ACES) says that remastering or even remaking Ace Combat 3 would be *Infinitely Impossible* task.
Im so tired of game needs to have better graphics (Maybe processing does need to upgrade) but I never had money to afford gaming PC. Gimme more of those insanely designed PS1 PS2 games. Ace Combat has so many great lore, and a lot of places to explore. Or give us optional missions like Project Wingman or AC5 or ACZ does it on certain missions. It doesnt have to be full remake like AC3 but there are proven ways to do it.
One thing I had to correct. You should had cheated and given yourself the Pulse or Neutron Gun in AC3. Comparing AC7's pewpew with AC3's Brrrt wasn't fair. Other than that, yeah AC3 is
I thought of it too. Then I noticed that the RF-12 had standard guns as opposed to the "Pulse Gun" even though this jet was supposed to be futuristic (perhaps much more than the Darkstar itself). It seemed like they had several reasons why standard guns were issued to the RF-12 instead....I wonder why.
@@mathmocha1331Normally, it can only have vulcans or cannons. But with gamesharks, you can give it whatever you want it to fire. But being a General Resources vehicle, they are backward grasping megacorp faction unlike Neucom that are forward looking futurists. Neucom are the ones with the more sci-fi pewpews. This plane itself is based on the SR-71 Blackbird, so it's a.. 70's? Plane from Cold War era just upgraded for the 2040's.
Ahh AC3 will always have a special place in my heart. I live in Germany so the only version we had was the one without 99% of the cutscenes. I've just played the English dub some months ago and this game is still fantastic even if it's 15 years old. The Japanese version was so damn far ahead of its time with the storytelling. Don't get me wrong, I really really like AC7 too, but the feeling of AC3 is just so much better in my opinion. I wish there will be a remaster some day, but one that sticks to the feeling of AC3. Maybe with the option to buy some planes instead of unlocking them all by just playing and S ranking some missions. God damn now I want to play it again.
Why do you always compare with the international version of AC3 and not the JP one? Feels weird without those conversations on AC3 part. Good video btw
The RF-12A2 feels nice and heavy for an interceptor.. a pain in the backside for the missions where we flew in her but still.. she's how an aircraft should feel..
My problem with AC7 is how the game manage the top altitude of your plane. Independently of your speed and angle the plane always reacts mostly the same, like if the game with a invisible hand stops you as in "you cannot go that way m8". That and the fact that your plane feels weightless. AC3 and in a less extend the PS2 holy trilogy allows every plane to fight the ceiling according to your angle, speed and the plane specs. And you can feel the gravity pull in your maneuvers. That's something I kinda dislike on AC7, that "automated" way of handling those limits. For me they have the perfect balance in the ps2 titles.
One theory suggests that the base was being attacked by high-altitude fighters (not shown in the video), thereby rendering the runways and the surrounding airspace unsafe for standard ops, hence the reason....I guess ^^
Neucom (which is one of the main factions in the game) developed these super high altitude planes (the ones you see in the video). Those planes fly in the stratosphere, higher then most conventional fighters can reach. And they carry small parasite fighters, which are released from stratosphere and then attack the General Resource (the other main faction) airbase. General Resource was unable to do anything about those attacks, not only because conventional fighters could not reach the altitude that the Neucom stratoplanes operated at, but even if they could fly that high, by the time they reached that altitude, the stratoplanes would be long gone. So General Resource modified an SR-71 and fitted it with rocket boosters to enable it to scramble and reach the stratoplanes in time to intercept them.
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Seems like AC3 is the only Ace Combat game with realistic physics, even if the plane is controlled by AI. Trigger is a human and he just casually pulled 250 G’s in the Darkstar.
Ace Combat 04 had some pretty good physics too. But it's only been downhill from there.
@@MonetEinsleydelusional take
What's the point of realistic physics if the game doesn't fully utilize them?
Later titles felt better even with full arcade direction.
ace combat zero is also good but 3 was the s tier it really made my childhood better specially the japan version @@MonetEinsley
@@pooladjohnmoore9642 I've never played 3, or 2 for that matter, but I agree with you that 3 seems to have been the pinnacle in a lot of aspects.
I would much prefer a civil discussion on why one disagrees with my thoughts, than being called delusional without an explanation. Am I being delusional for saying AC04 had pretty good physics (I'm not saying it's the best), or that everything after that (in terms of flight physics) has been in a downward spiral? Compared to AC04, 5 and zero had better graphics and other good things going for it, but landings/takeoffs had been noticeably dumbed down, and the ILS system doesn't work like it's supposed to. If believing that planes shouldn't suddenly snap to the ground upon touchdown or snap up to a 45° pitch attitude at a certain speed on takeoff is being delusional, then so be it.
Ac7 top speed: i sleep
Ac3 top speed: *REAL SH!T*
Lmao Ace Combat has Lost Touch with the FEEL of SPEED, Jets shouldn’t even go from 300mph - 1300mph in a matter of seconds !!? That makes Higher Speeds seem Extremely underwhelming !?
I love how in AC3 your plane starts vibrating at high speeds.
@@zetareticulan321 the camera shakes adding up to the feeling of the player going dangerously fast or even overspeeding.
@@Andrecio64 Yup. It was awesome.
AC3 also had the Remora launch sequence where you were strapped under a bomber wing
AC3 is intimidating. Any special sequence has this build up leading to the event. The music gave that aspect more character. The new games do not and can never have that. The entire AC3 was like a special one off mission.
The Darkstar looks like a protractor while the Blackbird looks like a ruler.
The launch sequence of the AC3 (blackbird?) Sure is unique ,since it is one of the one off missions plane in the game but in 7 the Darkstar was just thrown into the game as collab dlc and not part of the lore ,it's a shame that in later AC games there's not a single one off mission plane
Yeah, there's that mission indeed
@@syaondri joint assault, rest of it sucked tbh
Joint Assault had a commercial type Boeing canyon run of all things, its fucking nuts
AC3 and AC04 are the only two Ace Combats that really gives me the feeling of flying and fighting in stratosphere.
People just don't know how things worked in Mach 2+ and 20,000m+ at all since the cold war ended. Every single "new" fighter jets are just SLOWER and LOWER to make them turning faster.
Ahh the OSL. The true ultimate precision weaponry that the player gets access to.
a ranked everything in 3 and still didnt get it or the geopelia 💀💀
@@dalelumina3 this weapon is only available in the jp version. The na or eu version was omitted iirc
@@ReonLeon oh no, i was referring to the japanese version when i said i didnt get the geopelia or the laser after a ranking everything
and the laser is in the western version as well, unlike the jp one where only geopelia can use it in the western one any plane can have it, you can see in the video the (upeo branded 💀) blackbird using it
@@dalelumina3 that's interesting. Again, it has been a long while since I played it as a kid like decades ago. Really hope bamco can get their nuts together and give us a remake of AC3
@@ReonLeon they should release 1-6, x and assault horizon legacy on pc first
This always annoyed me after playing Zero. Ace Combat 6 absolutely holds your hands for taking off and landing, going so far as to snap your plane up 45° in pitch once you hit a certain speed. This behaviour made its way into 7 as well, as seen prominently on the Carrier takeoff.
That annoying feature comes from Assault Horizon actually, both AH and 7 have the same landing physics.
AC6 lets you fully control the angle of attack while gliding to land. The annoying part is that as soon as you touch down, the plane starts to vibrate violently out of nowhere
@@Shattered_Skies what... I remembered that in AH you can controlled your AoA and glide slope when you're approaching. Am I wrong with my memory?
@@jeffery7281 iirc, both AH and 7 make your plane pitch up artificially both in takeoff and landing
@@Shattered_Skies it’s so Dumb and insulting to “long time players” or Just Players in general !
Screw Catering to Newcomers Now Ace Combat is a Meme fest and more of a joke, how to Recover From That ?
@@mrandrossguy9871 Eh, could be worse. At least AC7 wasn't Assault Horizon 2: Electric Boogaloo
I love that they added the Darkstar as TopGun promotional content, but it's just too broken a plan for multiplayer it just ruins the fun. If its turning circle was really long like the Blackbird, then it would be more interesting in multiplayer.
As a purely high-altitude and high Mach enjoyer I just hate Darkstar. It just another super duper dogfighter with 10x speed. It's not a real interceptor at ALL!
Actually IMO the best aircraft in AC7 that reproduced the feeling of flying a heavy and fast fighter jet is CFA-44. And she's my 2nd most used aircraft in PVP now (the 1st is F-15E because I can using her 6AAM plus super duper powerful General Electric™F110-GE-129™engines to f*cked everyone from dogfight to BVR).
HVAA and LAAM: let me introduce ourselves
Bro just use the Railgun. You don’t have to worry about missile travel for that one
The dark star is the only plane that can’t do a carrier takeoff, so I wouldn’t worry about that.
Fun fact: AC3 is the only Ace Combat game that feature multiple battleskies: Regular atmosphere, Stratosphere, Space, even Electrosphere.
Also it is *the most non-linear Ace Combat game ever* if you look up to its JP version (it has 4 different faction, 4 path, and 5 ending).
No wonder Kazutoki Kono (director of Project ACES) says that remastering or even remaking Ace Combat 3 would be *Infinitely Impossible* task.
Im so tired of game needs to have better graphics (Maybe processing does need to upgrade) but I never had money to afford gaming PC.
Gimme more of those insanely designed PS1 PS2 games.
Ace Combat has so many great lore, and a lot of places to explore.
Or give us optional missions like Project Wingman or AC5 or ACZ does it on certain missions.
It doesnt have to be full remake like AC3 but there are proven ways to do it.
I wish I could ask my AI assistant to create an AC3 remaster lol
@@mathmocha1331 you can, in 2040, the AI is called "NEMO"
One thing I had to correct.
You should had cheated and given yourself the Pulse or Neutron Gun in AC3. Comparing AC7's pewpew with AC3's Brrrt wasn't fair.
Other than that, yeah AC3 is
I thought of it too. Then I noticed that the RF-12 had standard guns as opposed to the "Pulse Gun" even though this jet was supposed to be futuristic (perhaps much more than the Darkstar itself). It seemed like they had several reasons why standard guns were issued to the RF-12 instead....I wonder why.
@@mathmocha1331Normally, it can only have vulcans or cannons. But with gamesharks, you can give it whatever you want it to fire. But being a General Resources vehicle, they are backward grasping megacorp faction unlike Neucom that are forward looking futurists. Neucom are the ones with the more sci-fi pewpews.
This plane itself is based on the SR-71 Blackbird, so it's a.. 70's? Plane from Cold War era just upgraded for the 2040's.
Ahh AC3 will always have a special place in my heart. I live in Germany so the only version we had was the one without 99% of the cutscenes.
I've just played the English dub some months ago and this game is still fantastic even if it's 15 years old.
The Japanese version was so damn far ahead of its time with the storytelling.
Don't get me wrong, I really really like AC7 too, but the feeling of AC3 is just so much better in my opinion.
I wish there will be a remaster some day, but one that sticks to the feeling of AC3. Maybe with the option to buy some planes instead of unlocking them all by just playing and S ranking some missions.
God damn now I want to play it again.
Guten tag! You have a point there! Every mission in AC3 really does appear to be distinct from one another!
those flybysounds do seem better in ac7
Yep. Credit where credit is due
I’m a darkstar main
Blackbird is the best flying brick.... Stratosphere? More like Stalls-tosphere lol
Much better than Snap-stall-o-sphere (from high altitude) I guess :)
Why do you always compare with the international version of AC3 and not the JP one? Feels weird without those conversations on AC3 part. Good video btw
imo the lack of dialogue in international 3 makes it easier to focus on the plane details he is showing
@@dalelumina3 wow lol
@@dalelumina3 at least the international vers didn’t have the plane details messed with right !?
@@mrandrossguy9871 it did
Electrosphere, the best Ace Combat.
I have a sneaking suspicion that this chap likes AC3
Sorta was born with it as far as I can remember
Bruh, that one Neucom scramble jet they give you for one mission. I was shitting my pants to see speed values going 5k+ in a straight. xD
wait it goes that fast? I just finnished the mission but I had to save keith so I didn't get to check the speed.
how you guys playing i dont have my ps one :(@@chugetnuget6230
@@pooladjohnmoore9642 Play in emulator especially you can use English patch in it
The RF-12A2 feels nice and heavy for an interceptor.. a pain in the backside for the missions where we flew in her but still.. she's how an aircraft should feel..
True that. However, with a bit of preplanning (going strategic instead of tactical), the RF-12 can really put on a show with ease.
AC3 Top Speed Sound pretty intense, meanwhile game that literally release 20 years later, almost sounds plain
It also has better stalling on high altitudes...
My problem with AC7 is how the game manage the top altitude of your plane.
Independently of your speed and angle the plane always reacts mostly the same, like if the game with a invisible hand stops you as in "you cannot go that way m8".
That and the fact that your plane feels weightless.
AC3 and in a less extend the PS2 holy trilogy allows every plane to fight the ceiling according to your angle, speed and the plane specs.
And you can feel the gravity pull in your maneuvers.
That's something I kinda dislike on AC7, that "automated" way of handling those limits.
For me they have the perfect balance in the ps2 titles.
Same goes for landing on zones other than the runway.
It's like when you land somewhere else, someone says "You can't park there m8" and then kaboom
There is no way in hell that plane could ever take off from a carrier.
Unless ofcourse it's made out of foam and cardboard, and with some heated glue
Ace combat 3 yf 12 gun sound it looks like the mp5 sound in mili militia
do u think that if there was an ac3 remake project aces would replace the blackbird with the darkstar or something similar
As long as the darkstar gets three vertical fins ofcourse :D
@@mathmocha1331 bring back the yf12 lockheed i need more 3 finned blackbird in my life💔
We NEED an AC3 remaster
With more number of space missions! ^^
Why are they using rocket boosters to launch a blackbird..?
One theory suggests that the base was being attacked by high-altitude fighters (not shown in the video), thereby rendering the runways and the surrounding airspace unsafe for standard ops, hence the reason....I guess ^^
Neucom (which is one of the main factions in the game) developed these super high altitude planes (the ones you see in the video). Those planes fly in the stratosphere, higher then most conventional fighters can reach. And they carry small parasite fighters, which are released from stratosphere and then attack the General Resource (the other main faction) airbase.
General Resource was unable to do anything about those attacks, not only because conventional fighters could not reach the altitude that the Neucom stratoplanes operated at, but even if they could fly that high, by the time they reached that altitude, the stratoplanes would be long gone.
So General Resource modified an SR-71 and fitted it with rocket boosters to enable it to scramble and reach the stratoplanes in time to intercept them.
I guess it would be okay if they added the real plane’s from the movie Top Gun: maverick
I'm sorry to tell you this, Math, but you're clearly cheating on this one.
I'm still of the opinion that AC3 had the _best_ physics in the whole series. Except for the fact that rolling while pitching was nearly impossible.
Who would’ve thought that game engines play a major role on how physics are simulated
Yes
REMAKE THE AC3
Well just my opinion AC7 sound engine is beter and AC3 same but little bit make my ears explode😂
Just like ACTUAL PLANES do.
AC7 players finding out jet engine noises are loud as fuck
I personally prefer AC 04’s actual jet engine noises to the artificiality that is AC7’s engines
Obviously, Trigger's different
NAMCO must remake AC3 ..