@@belliduradespicio8009 Probably a few thousand through different ARs of which I still have 1 of, and I just got the Siberian and only have about 450x rounds through it, about 50 of load development an 400 rapid fire....
If they get the grizzly to run reliably and it can stand up to less than ideal conditions it could take the market by storm. At that price point I'd grab one up as a woods carry.
A team member shot an SRV2 Siberian. The firearm was tilted once, and the cartridge did not load into chamber. It only happened once. To us, it looks like the springs are not that large. Curious why the 180 platform does not have bigger, more durable, and more powerful springs. Shotguns like Berretta X400 seem to have great springs. Exactly what you would want in the future. So how come they use gentle springs in a primary battle firearm.
BCL.... read the comments. The only thing the Siberian has going for it is its weight and looks. Reliability sucks... do better high round count testing and perhaps destruction testing. If you do this testing and if you provide that data in house, more people will buy it.
We started going shooting with colleagues this summer. As a group of half a dozen team members, we're all new to shooting sports and hunting. At the range, everyone showed a preference for high-quality technology in firearms & foreign brand names. We're drawn to items with longevity too, like shotguns, bolt-action, or semi-automatic rifles with readily available parts & support. It seems to us that it might be a big barrier to the growth of shooting sports in Canada, and the development of a robust parts ecosystem to ensure the longevity of firearms, is the government policy of the Liberal Party. To support the shooting sports and preserve the firearms ecosystem in Canada, it might be beneficial to consider supporting local companies like Kodiak and Black Creek Labs through purchases. Owning a high-quality rifle, such as the Siberian SRV2 in 5.56 or .308 calibers, might not only provide personal satisfaction but also contribute to a stronger community presence, potentially bolstering the semi-automatic rifle ecosystem, which would naturally protect also the other shooting sports. We've also heard that Kodiak Defense, another Canadian company, has developed an effective gas system for the 180 platform, as seen in the WK 181. There's anticipation that this gas system might be incorporated into the third version of the WK 180 by a few of our colleagues. This suggests that the onus shouldn't rest solely on these companies. Perhaps as consumers, we should invest more in their rifles and to recommend their rifles, even if at times that migh require some DIY repair. In time, this could lead to collaborations or encourage others to launch a reliable electronic parts store for the 180 platform, not just on the Kodiak Defense website. Such an initiative could position the 180 as a national sports rifle for dynamic shooting in Canada, akin to the approach of Lucas Botkin. The notion that we can't repair our own rifles and that they should never fail is a misconception we shouldn't subscribe to. We shouldn't be brand elitists, and only buy CZ Bren 2 or B&T APC. People learn to fix cars, and given that so many Canadians spent 30 years in school, getting degrees, we ought to be smart enough to figure out how to replace a firearms barrel. The real issue might be the limited access to 180 platform parts through e-commerce stores, and not a guarantee over the long term. Addressing this could significantly enhance the shooting sports landscape in Canada. But we are new to this, but this was our first impression.
@CB-nh1su Not sure which statement you suspect is an excuse. Being new to firearms, it seemed like an exciting learning experience going forward to assemble and re-assemble rifles and to upgrade or change rifles. However, it kind of seems people are relying on stores and avoiding do it yourself professional learning, choosing to send in their firearms to the store for any changes or repairs. Being interested in education, we thought it interesting that there seems to be a reliance on warranty systems. This was the essence of our comment. Firearms seem to be a tool of strength, independence, sovereignty, defense, and applied skill, and it seemed somewhat misaligned in concept to attempt to use them and expect 100% perfection, without ever learning the equipment itself. Would a real soldier not know some firearm repairs? At all. At all. The essence of the comment wasn't about a particular firearm, but whether buying Canadian 180 platforms could bring about a custom or culture of professional firearm technology experts hobby or enthusiasm in more people. 🤔
its a restricted model from what i understand they aren't in stores because general demand for restricted version is very low. if you want one you would need to message BCL directly
100%. I was pretty excited when I heard about the Crux, and then the price came out. I'm not buying that thing for $3000! No way. I've I was going to chuck out three notes, I'd just save up an other $500 and get a Tavor 7.
.308 requires more material and additional R&D, they need to be beefier cuz it’s a more intense caliber. Second to that is that the market is a lot smaller because a lot of people who want a .308 *dont* want a semi-auto for hunting purposes and a lot of people that want a semi-auto *dont* want .308 cuz it’s expensive and heavy
to do that would require a bolt, mag well, and barrel change so not possible without switching a decent amount of parts. easiest change over is 223 to 22lr because it uses the same barrel so only a bolt and mag well insert is needed.
Naaa I'll run my good old fashioned weatherby vanguard weatherguard bronze. I hate these new chincy built light weight material insane $ bolt actions comming out latley. People literally stand in line to pay thousands for rifles that are worth 800bucks. News flash it dosemt cost that much to make bolt actions. Your getting ripped off
To improve quality, BCL should sublet all their manufacturing to Norinco.
i'd actually prefer that
I've had lots of BCL and even NEA AR products and never had a problem so far, I just bought a Siberian and it has been great...
@@sk8snwmx how many rounds you put through it?
@@belliduradespicio8009 Probably a few thousand through different ARs of which I still have 1 of, and I just got the Siberian and only have about 450x rounds through it, about 50 of load development an 400 rapid fire....
Let’s hope this gets some quality control and they don’t end up like lemons just as the original Siberian had
Great interview again Alex!
If they get the grizzly to run reliably and it can stand up to less than ideal conditions it could take the market by storm. At that price point I'd grab one up as a woods carry.
The srv2 is hot garbage so don’t expect anything
@@556Cross I feel like people see problems for like a few rifles and extrapolate it, I ran 2000 rounds through mine no problem so far.
Can't wait to see these in action
YES, I want a 308 like this
A team member shot an SRV2 Siberian. The firearm was tilted once, and the cartridge did not load into chamber. It only happened once. To us, it looks like the springs are not that large. Curious why the 180 platform does not have bigger, more durable, and more powerful springs. Shotguns like Berretta X400 seem to have great springs. Exactly what you would want in the future. So how come they use gentle springs in a primary battle firearm.
You’ll learn pretty quickly that the Canadian firearms owner is the tester of the average Canadian made firearm
its because they dont test the guns. id even bet they dont run any rounds through each gun to save money so they have no idea if they work or not.
ummm....ummm ummm ummm ummmm ummmm
Okay now I'm excited.
if thats the price that would be mint
BCL.... read the comments. The only thing the Siberian has going for it is its weight and looks. Reliability sucks... do better high round count testing and perhaps destruction testing. If you do this testing and if you provide that data in house, more people will buy it.
any chance u might build in the new creedmoore 338 round with a 1 in 3 twist bob from bc
I AM SOOOOOO EXCITED 😊 I WANT ONE 😍
oh hell yeah! new 308 option is good news here
Is there any update on this riffle?
I was going to buy a siberian but I will save up and grab one of these!!!
Likely to be released mid to late 2024
We started going shooting with colleagues this summer. As a group of half a dozen team members, we're all new to shooting sports and hunting. At the range, everyone showed a preference for high-quality technology in firearms & foreign brand names. We're drawn to items with longevity too, like shotguns, bolt-action, or semi-automatic rifles with readily available parts & support. It seems to us that it might be a big barrier to the growth of shooting sports in Canada, and the development of a robust parts ecosystem to ensure the longevity of firearms, is the government policy of the Liberal Party.
To support the shooting sports and preserve the firearms ecosystem in Canada, it might be beneficial to consider supporting local companies like Kodiak and Black Creek Labs through purchases. Owning a high-quality rifle, such as the Siberian SRV2 in 5.56 or .308 calibers, might not only provide personal satisfaction but also contribute to a stronger community presence, potentially bolstering the semi-automatic rifle ecosystem, which would naturally protect also the other shooting sports.
We've also heard that Kodiak Defense, another Canadian company, has developed an effective gas system for the 180 platform, as seen in the WK 181. There's anticipation that this gas system might be incorporated into the third version of the WK 180 by a few of our colleagues. This suggests that the onus shouldn't rest solely on these companies. Perhaps as consumers, we should invest more in their rifles and to recommend their rifles, even if at times that migh require some DIY repair. In time, this could lead to collaborations or encourage others to launch a reliable electronic parts store for the 180 platform, not just on the Kodiak Defense website. Such an initiative could position the 180 as a national sports rifle for dynamic shooting in Canada, akin to the approach of Lucas Botkin.
The notion that we can't repair our own rifles and that they should never fail is a misconception we shouldn't subscribe to. We shouldn't be brand elitists, and only buy CZ Bren 2 or B&T APC. People learn to fix cars, and given that so many Canadians spent 30 years in school, getting degrees, we ought to be smart enough to figure out how to replace a firearms barrel. The real issue might be the limited access to 180 platform parts through e-commerce stores, and not a guarantee over the long term. Addressing this could significantly enhance the shooting sports landscape in Canada. But we are new to this, but this was our first impression.
@CB-nh1su Not sure which statement you suspect is an excuse. Being new to firearms, it seemed like an exciting learning experience going forward to assemble and re-assemble rifles and to upgrade or change rifles. However, it kind of seems people are relying on stores and avoiding do it yourself professional learning, choosing to send in their firearms to the store for any changes or repairs. Being interested in education, we thought it interesting that there seems to be a reliance on warranty systems. This was the essence of our comment. Firearms seem to be a tool of strength, independence, sovereignty, defense, and applied skill, and it seemed somewhat misaligned in concept to attempt to use them and expect 100% perfection, without ever learning the equipment itself. Would a real soldier not know some firearm repairs? At all. At all. The essence of the comment wasn't about a particular firearm, but whether buying Canadian 180 platforms could bring about a custom or culture of professional firearm technology experts hobby or enthusiasm in more people. 🤔
did you get any info on that short siberian in the video? looked like it had an adjustable gas block? That would be pretty neat.
its a restricted model from what i understand they aren't in stores because general demand for restricted version is very low. if you want one you would need to message BCL directly
Is it possible to just buy an upper kit from BCL and switch between our 556 and 308 uppers?
No as the srv2 556, takes 556 mags and the grizzly takes ar10 mags
Any more news on this?? Still waiting for any updates.
same here! im wondering if they posed the projectuntil 2025- october for the new election or what
Any updates weather this is coming to fruition??
@gageebdrup7785 yes... but I can't talk about it! Lol
@@EpikArms exciting!
Hopefully exciting
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Deposit has been paid, I will update once I get her.
Im quite happy to be able to use my ar10 mags againn😮
keep us posted!
Can't wait .
UuuuUUUUUUuUUum srv2 is good. no issues.
This guy running the booth was a bit brutal. AAAUUUUMMMMMM
They should do this in 6.5 creedmore as well
that would be the dream!
If they are prooved reliable. At 2000$ I buy one. No thinking... I never understand why a 308 sport rifles are so over expensive like the crux.
100%. I was pretty excited when I heard about the Crux, and then the price came out. I'm not buying that thing for $3000! No way. I've I was going to chuck out three notes, I'd just save up an other $500 and get a Tavor 7.
.308 requires more material and additional R&D, they need to be beefier cuz it’s a more intense caliber. Second to that is that the market is a lot smaller because a lot of people who want a .308 *dont* want a semi-auto for hunting purposes and a lot of people that want a semi-auto *dont* want .308 cuz it’s expensive and heavy
probably markup due to lower expected volume of sales.
Hamm
@frederickdeslauriers8754 this is last years video, check out the New video on the grizzly
Finally 🎉
neato
this is last years video, the new one for 2024 is up
@@EpikArms nice, thanks for letting me know
*non-restricted
For now. Until you people allow you tyrannical out of control government to take them away from you too.
What do you mean youu people?
@@fraserlordly2432 What do YOU mean, you people?
what do you mean you people? lol
Hope it doesn't blow up on the range.
8.6 bo ....
Nice I hope for....
1. It'll be CA compliant.
2. That there will be a rifle invented that will chamber 5.56 AND .308 (in ONE RIFLE).
to do that would require a bolt, mag well, and barrel change so not possible without switching a decent amount of parts. easiest change over is 223 to 22lr because it uses the same barrel so only a bolt and mag well insert is needed.
this will get banned just like everything else here in Canada that will be CAPABLE of taking a mag grater than 3 rounds. Capable is the key word here.
unlikely as that would ban every single semi auto in existence.
Umm umm umm
Something else that breaks down and is unreliable
Bet it dies after 200 rounds
you think that many?
Naaa I'll run my good old fashioned weatherby vanguard weatherguard bronze. I hate these new chincy built light weight material insane $ bolt actions comming out latley. People literally stand in line to pay thousands for rifles that are worth 800bucks. News flash it dosemt cost that much to make bolt actions. Your getting ripped off
You need to work on your spelling. Jesus.
$1800 is NOT even remotely "affordable".
In Canda's market it is
Affordable is subjective.
Fix the Siberian before this releases