STAND UP The Club In The Backswing To SHALLOW It Out (Bends And Turn)
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
- Many of you are trying to 'shallow' out the golf club in transition, but keep in mind where your club is coming from!
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And where it is at the top of your swing. In this golf training video, I partner up with our new Milo Lines Academy golf coach and San Diego resident pro, Ed Lasater, to take you through a few key movements to help you stand the golf club up in the backswing. In doing so, you will be in a better position to then 'shallow' it out in transition! I hope you enjoy!
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One of the best full swing videos I have seen
Thanks Hugh!
Milo is without a doubt the best ‘RUclips’ coach out there. Talks unbelievable sense and makes everything so easy to understand.
Thanks so much Graeme!
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Very helpful. Thank you! 😊
You're so welcome!
This is pretty much the keys to the golf swing summed up in an 8 minute video. Gold.
Thanks, not sure I'd go that far haha, but we do our best =).
Thanks Barbra
Wow this has to be the best video I’ve ever seen. Why doesn’t everyone teach this?
🤷♂️ Many ways to match things up, but this is our preference!
@@MiloLinesGolf This is good stuff. I went out back and applied it and notice a huge difference.
Hi. 57yo from Australia - just joined a club again after 6yrs. Have had some lessons and watched a hundred vids to try and fix the early extension/over the top/ hips spinning out faults, only to be frustrated. Even more frustrating because I have always been sporty and some days I just flush balls at the range and I knew there was game somewhere in me - just needed to groove a swing. Watched your tutorial and the left lean and back to the target turn was something I put into action yesterday. Have only broken 90 twice in my life before yesterday - went out and did some practice with the new drills and then shot 84! Probably only some putts prevented breaking eighty. Thanks!
Great to hear and thanks for following along! If we can help any more, do check out our online academy at milolinesgolf.com.
Wow! After watching this video I went straight to my hitting net and filmed my swing adding left side bend to my backswing. It may be the first time that I can remember that my club shallowed without doing some manipulation with my arms (that never holds up under pressure). Even though my right elbow gets a little high in the backswing, when I transitioned the elbow returned to my side and the club was pointed directly at the ball instead of steep half way down. My hips never left the "wall line" I drew on the video. The right hip stayed on it until the left hip was on in. Firing my right hip forward early especially with the driver is one of my tendencies. This results in a big block with my right shoulder dropping versus staying high in transition. I tried the side bend with my driver and got the same result as my seven iron with my club naturally shallowing. This was one of the easiest swing adjustments I can remember. Thanks Milo and Ed!!
Great to hear Jeff! Thanks for tuning in.
Quick Update: I've done a couple of range sessions and here are some learnings for my swing:
1) The clubhead on the initial takeaway is right on the shaft plane or just above. Previously I had to work hard to get this path. The side bend makes it automatic for me. The club feels much steeper at arm parallel in the backswing than it looks on video.
2) To get the natural shallowing from standing the club up I had to be more patient in the transition. As I "squat" I needed to feel like my arms are paused. It looks smooth on video but feels like a pause to me.
3) Adding more right side bend in the downswing had a big impact on starting the ball on line. I'm pretty matched up now back and forth with maybe a little more right side bending at impact.
I found that swinging anything above about 70% would cause my old tendency of thrusting my right hip forward early would return. I now know instantly when it happens. I expect this to improve with practice.
@@jeffb8331 great job Jeff👊
Great to see Ed in his debut 1st video! I've been working on this since Nov. 2020 when I saw Milo @ Superstition. I like Milo's comment about dominoes and how everything is built on what came before. For me, that has meant re-learning the backswing and how to increase my turn and add more shoulder inclination. It's counter-intuitive but to get more shallow in delivery, you need to be steeper at the top, i.e. to be dynamic, it is better to 'shift' from inclined shoulders to a shallower delivery! Thanks for all the great info--keep it coming!
Thank you as always Dennis!!
Thanks Dennis
Tks for this insightful information. Which i personaly have had wrong all my life. Question can we do too much left bend in the takeaway.
Depends on how and where you’re bending from
Hi Milo and Ed great video.
Simple put as the right shoulder goes up on the backswing the lead shoulder goes down resulting in the perfect lead side bend and then on the downswing as the lead shoulder goes up the trail shoulder goes down resulting in a perfect trail side bend and then at the end of the golfer’s swing both shoulders level together presenting the perfect pose to the classic swing.
At age 74 my shoulders is now all I think about as I am swinging my club because I know the rest of my body takes the lead of my up and down shoulders. Cheers
Yes, but roundedness at setup is important in this equation. Thanks for watching Thomas.
@@MiloLinesGolf i agree. The roundness you speak of is actually done through the pulling power of our obliques muscles that connects the limited range of motion of our shoulders and hips together as we swing our club from side to side around our body.
Since both our shoulders joints and hip joint have a limited range of motion of of only 20 degrees up down and around their sockets; we need the pulling power of both our abdominal muscles and the twisting power of our side muscles known as our obliques to be one hundred percent responsible for both the alternating side binding of our body as well as the ability for us to to pivot in place turning our body back and forth as we swing out club. Cheers
Morning from thee other side of the world. Thanks for the vid. Informative!!
Question on 'feels' - I get the need for the lead side bend o during the takeaway but, instead of focusing on the body can awareness not be focused on the hands (lead hand pushing down on handle and trail hand pulling up) to create the same effect? What is the downside of a 'hands' as opposed to a 'body' focus?
Thanks,
Bill
Milo! Super.., turn AND Left side bend!! Best golf instruction on the web!! Thanks!!
Thanks Anibal!
Your Swing Back Like This with Better Golf video where you used an alignment stick to show how your pivot exerts a force on a "vertical" club that results in a laid off club being towed efficiently to impact versus how your pivot exerts a counter-productive force on a laid-off club was superb. I can now visualize just what I want to happen in my transition. Thank you.
Thanks Tom glad it helped 👊
Very very helpful… taught simplistically
Glad it was helpful!
Hello from Golf Club de Toulouse Milo! I just shared your video with my playing partners here. Since I became consistent with turning the door knob at the top - something I wasn’t doing when I saw you - it has eliminated the two way miss and added a ton of easily accessed speed. Look forward to seeing you in person again when I return to the states.
Look forward to it Greg!
Great job Greg!
Milo solid video, we spoke about external rotation of the right arm, in tennis does the forearm internally rotated then extremely rotate ( as well shoulder) to get into the stoke - strike. Are you advocating any external rotation to the backswing for some students? I hope this makes sense 😊
Great Video, Milo & Ed. It incorporates so many facets of the swing structure you teach. As I sit here recovering from sciatica, much of my thought has been about ways to improve my swing once I’m back. This has helped in so many to develop a plan. By far, one of the best instructional videos I’ve ever seen.
Glad it was helpful! If we can help at all once you are back swinging, please let us know at milolinesgolf.com. Thanks for following along Marshall!
Thanks Marshal, I hope you’re back in the game soon!
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Milo, that little door knob move is pretty dang awesome. Small sample size this afternoon, however, the contact felt great. It was cool and windy today, so the ball was being held up a bit at the range. This might be a breakthrough move for me. Thanks, MAN!
Glad to help Rich, thanks for following along!
Good to hear Rich👊
Great video, so well explained thanks
You're welcome!
I've just realised that I've never had any sidebend in my swing which is the main reason I've fought with my right elbow and early release. The drill that really made me feel what I should be doing is trying to hit with only my right hand - which necessitates me hinging my right hand back and maintaining width on the backswing. Then as I weight transfer to try to hit the ball I have to right sidebend if I want to maintain that wrist angle as I approach the ball. Viola, I now have some forward shaft lean when hitting the ball as my hips clear. I need to drill this for a while and can then concentrate on being more rotary and leading more with that left knee.
It's the right sidebend that automatically brings that right elbow into the side, and a lack of it that causes it not to - imho. I had a coach that in turn was having lessons with one of David Leadbetters guys (who coached the beautiful swing of Frank Nobilo) in order to reduce the lateness of his hit - which was probably too much sidebend. In turn I was hitting terribly late and my coach asked his coach what he should tell me. "Give up" was the answer :-) But it seems pretty clear to me now that the degree of right sidebend is the differentiator.
This turning the door knob worked really well for me. It seems too good to be true because it's so damn simple, but it's super effective. Thanks from Australia.
Glad you liked it!
Great video!
Thanks Cameron!
Snagging the club inside is me to a t! This was a great video, thanks Milo
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks Kevin!
Kevin, it’s a lot easier to get the dominos to fall in order if you start the swing in a good order👍🏼
Another great lesson! Thanks
Our pleasure!
Thanks for following the channel Steve
Wow. I thought I was educated on the swing and never heard about getting the “Bends” correct …. Lightbulb moment. Thanks
Any time!
Great tip, who would have thought. Tucking elbow, not so much… 🙏 thanks!
Thanks for watching Jack
So many good topics in this video only question is on turning door knob. I was working on that a while back and it seemed to produce a higher handle at impact. To eliminate that would you suggest more right bend or straightening of arms or something all together different?
I would have to see you do that but usually when the COM trails your hands in the downswing you can use the ground to pivot and the handle should be pretty neutral.
Making a video today on this feel, stay tuned!
Making a video today on this feel, stay tuned!
Love all your stuff, and still waiting for a weekend school in LA Milo?
Is this for the driver also??
All the above =). May try and do one in SoCal this winter, will see.
Aram, we just did a 2 day school in San Diego a couple of weeks ago
@@edlasatergolf I heard and seen some footage from BBG look really great.
Ed what course do you teach at?
@@aramavakian I’m at a small driving range in Chula Vista
@@edlasatergolf I need to make a day trip and come see you 👍
Isn't supinate the same thing as a external rotation?
Same direction but external is speaking of the humerus in the shoulder socket and supination is speaking of the forearm they are independent of each other.
This turning the hand like a door knob may be the missing piece to the puzzle for me. I use flexion and extension in my wrist, but struggle with the ball going left with pulls and hooks. I hit some foam balls in the back yard with this hand technique and got some good results. Looking forward to trying it at the range.
Will help with path 👊
Can you provide a link to "turning the door knob" video? I have issues with not getting the trail palm down (facing the ground) during the downswing and was wondering if that video would help. Thanks.
We will have to do a separate video on this.
Just what I need, another excuse to drive out to Arizona to hang out with Milo😂
Iv bean trying two move my elbow in side the rong way thanks il try that
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guy finally talks about standing it up at 3:29
Thanks for watching.
I assume the doorknob motion must be accompanied by bowing of the lead wrist to square the face?
Correct Corey, every person is different, some people are lead hand dominated some are trail.
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Swing to the right to shallow it on-plane (vs. swinging to the target to steepen it over-plane)!
Having the club track slightly back from the inside is ideal, but then I'd like to see the club move back around on a similar plane into the finish.
I find I'm opening the clubface with this turning of the door handle what could I doing wrong in the downswing? thanks in advance
The face can remain in a strong position if you turn 'down the wall' versus laying open to the sky.
I like the video but don't quite understand the "turn the doorknob" part. Should you just keep your right wrist at a 90 degree angle on the downswing and let your body pull you thru or actually turn you wrist?
Ideally, the shallowing and arm movement is a result of a good pivot, however many may need to feel this motion early on to learn not to pull down on the club.
Thanks Milo!
When I left bend in backswing, it lowers me a bit. Is that to be expected?
Between the “left bend” and dropping your right hip back instead of turning your hips, yeah you’ll lower just a bit. Once you shift pressure to your lead leg on the downswing, that should bring your swing’s low point more forward and lead to ball then ground contact. :)
I'd have to see, but it's possible you aren't keeping enough height in your hips and are not extending your trail leg a bit, but rather getting into the ground too early in your swing. I'd prefer see the sit down happen in transition/downswing.
Why does this move work so well with irons but not as well with driver? Any time I try it with driver, especially when trying to cut the ball, I end up hitting off the planet push cuts
I’d have to see but sounds like you’re opening the face in transition
bobby jones sam snead they all took it inside but they still came down on plane everytime
Many greats did, but the key was their bends. Thanks for watching!
How come you don't take divots, Milo?
Depends on the club, lie, grass, etc. Typically I am fairly shallow with my mid and long irons.
Wish the idea of turning the door knob was easy for me. I can't seem to do it and hit the ball. Very frustrating.
There are some drills that can help with the feel, but I would have to see your swing to give you the best feedback Jim. Have you looked into our online academy at milolinesgolf.com?
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Thank you Ian
When I turn the doorhandles it causes me to shank it, anyone else suffer with this? Tried for a long time now but I just shank or chunk.
You have to match it to new pivot. I’d have to see your swing to give specific reasons and fixes. If you’d like guidance join milolinesgolf.com for access to the best online instruction and personalized coaching.
@@MiloLinesGolf Thanks Milo - I was looking at @t last night, I think I'll sign up this week. I am pretty sure I am to stalling my pivot and dumping it into the ground. If I force myself to turn I get good contact.
This is where my foundational exercises help and slow us down to achieve that new striking pattern.
@@MiloLinesGolf Thanks. I've joined up :)
Good conten, but the two didn't really gel in my opinion
Thanks for watching Todd, we'll keep doing our best to make great content!
uh oh...he is tilting left...its stack and tilt..........RUN...jk
Haha, lot of good stuff in Stack and Tilt