Going from losing LVO because a Monolith made box car armor saves to taking down worlds in the same year is a story that should go down in Warhammer history. Grear job Folger.
Glory and honor of the highest degree to Folger. While custodes lists may be one-dimensional, that doesn't mean they can't be effective with a proper commander
1 dimensional? I find Custodes lists to be internally pretty varied if you want them to be. It is a melee first army, thought, so just like WE and Tau you kind of only pop off in one phase.
@@captaincorundum9788 Competitive Custodes are basically mono-build at this point, almost every list is Wardens, Blade Champions, Draxus + Guard, 2 grav tanks, some sisters for cheap scoring/holding. The vast majority of the codex is uncompetitive.
Was honored to participate in WCW this year. So awesome Folger won! I had my only loss into John Lennons Astra in the group finals. He‘s a real paragon of gentlemanly 40k! The overall level of play was the highest I ever experienced (out of more than 200 tournaments I played). You can play almost any army you like and win if you just play good enough, that‘s just lovely.
Exactly my reaction. That, and a reminder that while army selection does matter, and luck can make or break any game, in the end victory belongs to the better player. Well, almost always. The big local tournament once had a World-class player draw a very unlucky hard counter in his very first game. I seem to recall he ran into a meme player running three Tesseract Vaults? Which, at the time, was about as far from Meta-optimal as it got, but - it turns out - also highly effective anti-Meta with a bit of luck. He lost, and that led into a downwards spiral as every new opponent he faced fielded increasingly weird and gimmicky armies; Ork Boyz hordes, an Eldar player running a pair of Wraithknights, Imperial Guard Superheavy Company, etc. Kind of hilarious, but a serious downer for the poor sod who saw his perfect tournament score tank hard.
You are absolutely relentless with your production of videos. It is honestly insane. I barely have enough time to keep up with watching them all so god knows how you have time to produce them. Unbelievable.
Well, it's the pilot combined with spiking insanely hard on some absolutely key rolls. Make no mistake, no one anywhere is going to get to the finals of WCW without being a master, especially with Custodes, but winning that finals match against that specific Guard list required not only perfect play but a lot of lucky breaks.
I think the Grav Tank is going to legends and they'll create a new plastic model that functionally does the same thing. There are too many recast Grav tanks out there for GW to seriously compete with them.
@@piotrjeske4599 In this case it's not just the "obligatory" nature of Grav Tanks or the price. The fact that FW is notorious for poor quality and high prices on it's premiere big models and especially in the wake of the Finecast fiasco means that a lot of veteran players won't even consider buying official GW resin models any more. It's even rumored that a few years ago a Warhammer World tournament staffer claimed that there were more Callidus Grav Tanks on tables at that event alone than the company had ever sold.
As someone very new to this, it is very nice to see that meta isn't everything. The player is just as important or even more it seems - GLORIOUS VICTORY!
If 10th does anything it allows people to think non meta and get it done 3 very different guard lists top 5. A primarch ultramarine list and a custodes non meta detachment list. My local recent GT taken by sisters and before that nurgle demon list.
If he took bikes and dreads he would not win the event. A world top player , piloting a "mid"(48%) army. Shows the difference between best and regular player, because his list looks like almost all custodes lists look like. Right now l worry what GW is going to do to wardens, calladius and blade champions.
@@piotrjeske4599I love how he took a list that most would call mid, and won the World Championship of Warhammer 40,000. Maybe they ARE better than given credit for. Until Custodes begin to regularly dominate, they shouldn't see a balance change. If anything some of the alternative units like the praetors on bikes and shield-captains should be made more favourable to field.
@@piotrjeske4599 you are aware that those percentages are totally arbitrary because they are based on biased data right? Without taking anything from the fact that the winner is a good player.
Folger knew what he was doing with that list name and this army. Also oh hey damage 3 melee weapons you rarely see those but jokes aside congratulations. Also good flex by the Ironstorm player to go it and not bring a TechMarine, that was impressive.
I have been yelling at the clouds for a year now about triple hydras. Also taurox prime and jump out boy scions are mean as hell I'm running 4 in my 60 scion list. Put creed in solo pop her out the back for cover, give both scion squads orders on deploy, and one with fields of fire. with the vox caster you get a cp on 4 from a free strat.
Really good to see the variety in winning armies and the relatively even win rates, and at least at the moment big wins going to armies that are middle of the pack by win rates (not just top three). Good for the health of the game- nobody wants to feel it's hopeless except for the few lucky armies.
Pretty crazy how dominant the Imperium factions were at the top end of the results. Marines, Custodes, Guard, and Sororitas seemed to feast. Xenos and Chaos players had a rough weekend.
Dude I thought my list with 3 Blade champions was a meme, but here we have a tournament winner running the same. That said, my list has no psykana, and bunch of terminators in it as well.
3 Blade champs has been the staple for ages now. Unfortunately Custodes don't have great internal balance at all. So all the decent units are just spammed to have any kind of success.
I was surprised to see 3x Ballistus and 3x Vindicators! I got 3 Ballistus myself but always concidered it to be more of a meme to use all 3 at once. Now it doesn't feel as much of a meme anymore :D
The fact Custodes topped this tournament against a Guard player is insane. I feel from personal experience that guard is one of the worst matchups for Custodes due to all the high damage high AP tanks.
To be fair, the guard players list was a bunch of autocannons which even with some armor shred support, are still going to bounce off custodes for the most part. Same with the battle cannon russes. Guy was basically throwing meltas and praying for high damage rolls and failed invulns.
I watched the stream. The amount of 4+++ fnp made was insane. He basically just stood in the open with his whole army and tanked 2000pts of guard shooting.
6:50 I’m newer to the game and a little confused. Do the spears really get to shoot in Melee? I didn’t think Assault did that unless there was some other enhancement I missed somewhere.
They shouldn't because they are still not very good, they are just a cheap long range fire platform with a 2+ save and some built in re-rolls, the damage output is mediocre though. Cover and AOC those lascannons become AP1, and the missiles become AP0, and you have no wound re-rolls so are wounding usually on 3s or4s, or even 5s in the cases of the missiles. It's 4 very average anti-tank shots for 130pts, even most transports will survive a ballistus shooting them on average, you need like 3 to be a real threat and that is 390pts.
Seems like the strength of a good player learning from their main faction to bolster the weaknesses of a different faction. I should play more factions now and then.
Great video. I was super excited to watch Ironstorm Spear head with Ultramarines do so well. I’ve been thinking about doing Fist of Ultramar in 2025. Thinking Gladiator Reaper and Executioner could be fun instead of triple vindicator.
Is the way the terrain works in the ad here really a good idea? Doesn't it create massive firing lanes that I assume make things unfair? I don't set up terrain so I don't know these sorts of things.
@@oliverp3545 well yes, but these are two firing lanes the entire long way of the table. I'm sure I could cope, but the lgs presets are so dense I have a lot of trouble moving cars.
been saying triple hydras forever. its a HWT (2 autocannons, heavy bolter) that can survive has a ton of extras and takes down anything with flying, which is a lot in 10th.
My thoughts exactly…was surprised to seem them show up in a top tier list especially since it’s been made known they are on the way out. Although some of them had been “transferred” to Imperial Agents.
Now there are 2 things GW can do. 1.Use the bandwagon to push Custodes models, etc. No nerfs. 2. Nerf Custodes into the ground. Community will meme it as they nerf them because females joined them.
I watched the game live, Folger rolled 75% of his 4+ invulnerable saves. Had he failed a few more it would have been a different winner. Really good masterclass in tactics though
Interesting that both of the top IG lists each took two units of Aquilions. They have only been out a couple of months, barely “patched in”, and are already looking like “must takes” for IG lists (how many Hivestorm boxes have been sacrificed just for the Aquilions?). Sadly, it probably means they are going to get a big time nerf in the near future. Maybe even before the new IG codex drops.
Yes but after the nerf people are taking only 2 not 3. And no they br8ng them with support command squad/gaunts ghosts. No solo yolo spam anymore. They seem good but balanced now (if they go up to 100 they will be ok to compete with scions/kasarkin).
Neither are meme lists. Black templars nerf was ridiculous, they nuked a sub 50% win rate faction out of the game, while allowing the main 4 to still run rampant,
@@jacket2848 such as Custodes, they were 48% but now GW will say: "Nerf this". Anyway, yes, the Nerf for BTs was just so dumb, hopefully we get them reversed on December.
henry cavill fixed the tournament (he said in interview he was a custodes fan). its the only possible explanation possible. we are through the looking glass, people .
played someone with this life, was a bit miserable not being able to charge a unit you want then having to shoot another you unit you don't want too, felt very silly, didnt feel like a war game felt like a silly rgp haha. DIdnt help that there rules are locked behind a pay wall so i ad no idea how the detachment worked. Also the inquisitor did more damage then any of my units at 95 points....wasn't very balanced! thanks for the upoad.
OK so legends units aren't allowed in tournaments because balance, except for custodes, which uses legends units and then beats everyone hands down. got it.
85pts, they re-roll hits against flying units (so Tau suits, flying daemons, chaos primarchs, jump pack troops, necron doomsythes, a lot of that stuff is in the meta), they are twin linked so re-roll wounds, they are damage 3 so kill elite infantry and you can increase their AP. You also get a hunter killer, they are lethal hits against vehicles as well, and it's a very cheap T9, 11W, OC3 vehicle. I mean an Impulsor for maines is only 5pts less and basically has the same profile and has no guns.
Just so everyone is aware talons fnp boost is ONLY in shooting and fight phases So it doesn’t work for tank shock, or any MW done from dropped bombs So shield host has the better strat imo
The Strat has that limit. But if you're talking about the detachment rule which is 5+ FnP, that works on any Mortal wounds as long as you're 6 inches near an SoS unit.
Playing a competitive Space Marine list with basically no Space Marine infantry, that's so fucking stupid and a reason why I'm not a fan of 10th edition.
They will get nerfed, because I play them. Every faction I play gets nuked. Black templars got sent to the bin, sisters are potentially about to get fucked over, deathwatch got removed from the bloody game and now custodes had the gall to win something so will promptly be seen as a problem by GW, same as templars. They won 1 GT in 3 months and basically got removed from play 🥲
Its a little sad that GW coordinates such a big tournament that could produce insane amounts of contents, only to waste it with what they call a stream. GWs streams have always been meh when it comes to actual bat reps but I feel while every other channel gets better, theirs get worse all the time. I dont even bother to watch anymore because the commentary is meh, the camera angles are meh, everything is boring and meh.
Notice the adjectives... simple and casual. Mr. Tactics has def been bad touched. Hey, Auspex, show me where the Custodian Guard touched you on this doll.
Going from losing LVO because a Monolith made box car armor saves to taking down worlds in the same year is a story that should go down in Warhammer history. Grear job Folger.
Glory and honor of the highest degree to Folger. While custodes lists may be one-dimensional, that doesn't mean they can't be effective with a proper commander
1 dimensional? I find Custodes lists to be internally pretty varied if you want them to be. It is a melee first army, thought, so just like WE and Tau you kind of only pop off in one phase.
@@captaincorundum9788luckily the caladius grav tanks gives them a good punch against armour.
@@captaincorundum9788that’s exactly what 1D is
We only do melee really
@@captaincorundum9788 Competitive Custodes are basically mono-build at this point, almost every list is Wardens, Blade Champions, Draxus + Guard, 2 grav tanks, some sisters for cheap scoring/holding. The vast majority of the codex is uncompetitive.
@@captaincorundum9788all the lists are pretty much the same. So yeah it's pretty one dimensional
Was honored to participate in WCW this year. So awesome Folger won! I had my only loss into John Lennons Astra in the group finals. He‘s a real paragon of gentlemanly 40k!
The overall level of play was the highest I ever experienced (out of more than 200 tournaments I played).
You can play almost any army you like and win if you just play good enough, that‘s just lovely.
Laughed pretty hard at their army title "Mid AF" and they won? Hell yeah
Exactly my reaction. That, and a reminder that while army selection does matter, and luck can make or break any game, in the end victory belongs to the better player. Well, almost always.
The big local tournament once had a World-class player draw a very unlucky hard counter in his very first game. I seem to recall he ran into a meme player running three Tesseract Vaults? Which, at the time, was about as far from Meta-optimal as it got, but - it turns out - also highly effective anti-Meta with a bit of luck. He lost, and that led into a downwards spiral as every new opponent he faced fielded increasingly weird and gimmicky armies; Ork Boyz hordes, an Eldar player running a pair of Wraithknights, Imperial Guard Superheavy Company, etc. Kind of hilarious, but a serious downer for the poor sod who saw his perfect tournament score tank hard.
You are absolutely relentless with your production of videos. It is honestly insane. I barely have enough time to keep up with watching them all so god knows how you have time to produce them. Unbelievable.
47% win rate for the army, takes down the World Championship.
It's not the army, it's the pilot.
Also, nerfs incoming lol.
Well, it's the pilot combined with spiking insanely hard on some absolutely key rolls. Make no mistake, no one anywhere is going to get to the finals of WCW without being a master, especially with Custodes, but winning that finals match against that specific Guard list required not only perfect play but a lot of lucky breaks.
Like how drukhari was nerfed because of Skari😅
@@RConnickJr Was literally coming to say specifically this. My buddy plays Guard and I struggle to do well against specifically that army.
Nerf incoming in deed. The mid casuals are going to be siting at 33% win rate lol
45 to 55 won rate is literally perfect for a well rounded and fair army
i hope the grav tank gets a plastic model
Every Forge World model needs a plastic remake. Except for the two big flyers.
I think the Grav Tank is going to legends and they'll create a new plastic model that functionally does the same thing. There are too many recast Grav tanks out there for GW to seriously compete with them.
@@thecactusman17that is what happens when a company makes a unit obligatory to play, but sells it at a crazy price. Same goes for jumpy boys .
AAAAAA
@@piotrjeske4599 In this case it's not just the "obligatory" nature of Grav Tanks or the price. The fact that FW is notorious for poor quality and high prices on it's premiere big models and especially in the wake of the Finecast fiasco means that a lot of veteran players won't even consider buying official GW resin models any more. It's even rumored that a few years ago a Warhammer World tournament staffer claimed that there were more Callidus Grav Tanks on tables at that event alone than the company had ever sold.
Hardest working guy in 40k!!
Ty Aus!!!!!
I’m sure it’ll make it even funnier when GW announces their Legends culling in a year or 2.
The "wait for a year" joke. Except it's xenos getting legend-ed. Then it will be even more lol.
Was in a GT with Folger at the beginning of the month, a great guy who deserves the win!
That 2nd Guard list is so creative; Taurox Primes and Attaches? I love it!
As someone very new to this, it is very nice to see that meta isn't everything. The player is just as important or even more it seems - GLORIOUS VICTORY!
Great to see some very different lists doing so well. Congratulations to all these players for both creativity and playing the lists so well.
If 10th does anything it allows people to think non meta and get it done 3 very different guard lists top 5. A primarch ultramarine list and a custodes non meta detachment list. My local recent GT taken by sisters and before that nurgle demon list.
sure the detachnent isnt meta but thats the same custodes competive list theres no difference
If he took bikes and dreads he would not win the event. A world top player , piloting a "mid"(48%) army. Shows the difference between best and regular player, because his list looks like almost all custodes lists look like. Right now l worry what GW is going to do to wardens, calladius and blade champions.
@@piotrjeske4599I love how he took a list that most would call mid, and won the World Championship of Warhammer 40,000. Maybe they ARE better than given credit for.
Until Custodes begin to regularly dominate, they shouldn't see a balance change. If anything some of the alternative units like the praetors on bikes and shield-captains should be made more favourable to field.
@@piotrjeske4599 you are aware that those percentages are totally arbitrary because they are based on biased data right? Without taking anything from the fact that the winner is a good player.
I’d argue that talons is the meta detatchment purely from the reactive move
Most shield host strats are meh
The Cavill-ry are back in the spotlight. Happy I stuck with them.
John Lennon with back to back 2nd place finishes in this tournament...brutal
The guard attaches are to counter aquilons in the mirror matchup, since guard is currently quite popular
Folger knew what he was doing with that list name and this army. Also oh hey damage 3 melee weapons you rarely see those but jokes aside congratulations.
Also good flex by the Ironstorm player to go it and not bring a TechMarine, that was impressive.
I have been yelling at the clouds for a year now about triple hydras. Also taurox prime and jump out boy scions are mean as hell I'm running 4 in my 60 scion list. Put creed in solo pop her out the back for cover, give both scion squads orders on deploy, and one with fields of fire. with the vox caster you get a cp on 4 from a free strat.
Try adding basic taurox loaded up with cyclopis and watch people rage. Kinda fun. 😂
Really good to see the variety in winning armies and the relatively even win rates, and at least at the moment big wins going to armies that are middle of the pack by win rates (not just top three). Good for the health of the game- nobody wants to feel it's hopeless except for the few lucky armies.
Pretty crazy how dominant the Imperium factions were at the top end of the results. Marines, Custodes, Guard, and Sororitas seemed to feast. Xenos and Chaos players had a rough weekend.
Folger Pyles is a machine
"Folger Pyles" sounds like the haemorrhoids you get after drinking cheap US coffee.
Dude I thought my list with 3 Blade champions was a meme, but here we have a tournament winner running the same.
That said, my list has no psykana, and bunch of terminators in it as well.
People have been running triple blade champ for a year.
3 Blade champs has been the staple for ages now. Unfortunately Custodes don't have great internal balance at all. So all the decent units are just spammed to have any kind of success.
I was surprised to see 3x Ballistus and 3x Vindicators! I got 3 Ballistus myself but always concidered it to be more of a meme to use all 3 at once. Now it doesn't feel as much of a meme anymore :D
The fact Custodes topped this tournament against a Guard player is insane. I feel from personal experience that guard is one of the worst matchups for Custodes due to all the high damage high AP tanks.
Custodes player had the dice gods on his side.
Guard did 5 damage in round 2.
@@Yen-pg3ydgotta love army wide 4++...such a great game design
To be fair, the guard players list was a bunch of autocannons which even with some armor shred support, are still going to bounce off custodes for the most part. Same with the battle cannon russes. Guy was basically throwing meltas and praying for high damage rolls and failed invulns.
@@Lumovanis well autocannons kill custodes if they get through so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ dice gods were just on his side
I watched the stream. The amount of 4+++ fnp made was insane. He basically just stood in the open with his whole army and tanked 2000pts of guard shooting.
6:19 the second or so if silence had me cracking up
6:50 I’m newer to the game and a little confused. Do the spears really get to shoot in Melee? I didn’t think Assault did that unless there was some other enhancement I missed somewhere.
auspex got confused, they have assault meaning advance and shoot, not pistol which lets you shoot in combat
Thank you! I wasn’t sure if there was some ability that added Pistol to them, and I just missed it. Have a great one!
Saw Folgers GT win a few weeks ago, was a great watch. Congrats to him!! Solid dude and custodes inspiration
Where can I see the results and army lists of these events? I want to learn how to make some armies and those could be some good learning points.
Lore accurate win, Custodes winning 👌
you know, just seeing how many lists have three ballistuses in them makes me think GW is going to nerf them in the next update
I wouldn't be surprised if they got a points nerf. It's a lot of firepower for 130 points, and 48" range.
@@anonamarth4291 at this point it's one of the only things we got. ffs we are dead last after the codex that might as well be named "other: imperium".
GW sold out all in stock so will need a new meta unit.
They shouldn't because they are still not very good, they are just a cheap long range fire platform with a 2+ save and some built in re-rolls, the damage output is mediocre though. Cover and AOC those lascannons become AP1, and the missiles become AP0, and you have no wound re-rolls so are wounding usually on 3s or4s, or even 5s in the cases of the missiles. It's 4 very average anti-tank shots for 130pts, even most transports will survive a ballistus shooting them on average, you need like 3 to be a real threat and that is 390pts.
Seems like the strength of a good player learning from their main faction to bolster the weaknesses of a different faction. I should play more factions now and then.
Great video. I was super excited to watch Ironstorm Spear head with Ultramarines do so well. I’ve been thinking about doing Fist of Ultramar in 2025. Thinking Gladiator Reaper and Executioner could be fun instead of triple vindicator.
Killing 5 wardens with whole guard army shooting must be a feel bad moment
Is the way the terrain works in the ad here really a good idea? Doesn't it create massive firing lanes that I assume make things unfair? I don't set up terrain so I don't know these sorts of things.
Firing lanes aren't an automatic negative and can often help shape the flow of combat as each player has to avoid a full frontal collision.
@@oliverp3545 well yes, but these are two firing lanes the entire long way of the table. I'm sure I could cope, but the lgs presets are so dense I have a lot of trouble moving cars.
Three hydras????
I'm just as confused as you
my friend fritz peters played him. It was not a game for necrons - which of course were played by him^^
@TheLagiacrus1 i cannot lie i did not realize they were 85 point wtf
@TheLagiacrus1 maybe I'll look into them
been saying triple hydras forever. its a HWT (2 autocannons, heavy bolter) that can survive has a ton of extras and takes down anything with flying, which is a lot in 10th.
Gotta love his army name is “mid AF but at WCW” lol
Regimental attaches???? I love those models. Too bad they're about to the big codex in the sky
My thoughts exactly…was surprised to seem them show up in a top tier list especially since it’s been made known they are on the way out. Although some of them had been “transferred” to Imperial Agents.
Wooo go golden banana boys
Is there a stream of the final game somewhere on the webz?
Now there are 2 things GW can do.
1.Use the bandwagon to push Custodes models, etc. No nerfs.
2. Nerf Custodes into the ground. Community will meme it as they nerf them because females joined them.
Custodes are the tranz faction now
@@LoftOfTheUniverseshit, I'm here for it
@@Hikertrash215 I believe you. Hobby tourists.
@@LoftOfTheUniverse jesus you must live a sad life
Rumors are all 4+++ fnp in the game are being turned to a 5+++ in the balance update.
Attention Metasheep, I have alot of Custodes for sale. First come first serve buddy!
Love me some golden boys!
I don't know why I expected a vanilla SM list that made it to the semi finals to be anything other than tank spam lmao
I watched the game live, Folger rolled 75% of his 4+ invulnerable saves. Had he failed a few more it would have been a different winner. Really good masterclass in tactics though
i want to see if it can handle my 272 tau models horde army for 2k.
Funny enough no mics on the official Warhammer stream but they have mics on the spanish stream
tbf folger is just one of the 10,000 atp
Of course the only way for codex Space Marines to do well is to take barely any Space Marines lol
@@niallskinner7800 same with sister of battle. Whole Sororitas faction is basically vehicle spam with flat 6 dmg indirect
Expect Imperial Guard to get some buffs. Cruddace won't let his tanks be defeated!
Poor john, always the bridesmaid and never the bride
can you make a video about the rule "precision"
many many people are doing wrong
Was really hoping John Lennon would get it this year, but two successive final appearances is insanely impressive
Henry Cavill eternally vindicated.
Please, talk about the overal champion. A spanish ik player called Jose C. Herranz
GW: "Ultramarines only made the semi finals? We better buff Space Marines"
You totally saw it coming how that Ultra Marine list would reach the semi finals. I didn't.
Has no one flipped at the three Hydras?!?!?!?!
Tbe results say guard need some nerfs. They were everywhere at the top end.
So this is w40k when played by the best of the best with best builds. Very nice.
Proof that meta isn’t everything
Interesting that both of the top IG lists each took two units of Aquilions. They have only been out a couple of months, barely “patched in”, and are already looking like “must takes” for IG lists (how many Hivestorm boxes have been sacrificed just for the Aquilions?). Sadly, it probably means they are going to get a big time nerf in the near future. Maybe even before the new IG codex drops.
They have been all the rage for a month now.
Yes but after the nerf people are taking only 2 not 3.
And no they br8ng them with support command squad/gaunts ghosts. No solo yolo spam anymore.
They seem good but balanced now (if they go up to 100 they will be ok to compete with scions/kasarkin).
Winning with indexes vs codexes
Custodes stay winning 💪💪💪
Now the Custodes players will feel what BT players felt with a meme list lol.
Neither are meme lists. Black templars nerf was ridiculous, they nuked a sub 50% win rate faction out of the game, while allowing the main 4 to still run rampant,
@@jacket2848 such as Custodes, they were 48% but now GW will say: "Nerf this".
Anyway, yes, the Nerf for BTs was just so dumb, hopefully we get them reversed on December.
Ultramarines is not 'Standard' Space marines...
quick with it!
Great Video. But I have to say the terrain being advertised just looks poor - not Auspex's fault.
henry cavill fixed the tournament (he said in interview he was a custodes fan). its the only possible explanation possible. we are through the looking glass, people .
played someone with this life, was a bit miserable not being able to charge a unit you want then having to shoot another you unit you don't want too, felt very silly, didnt feel like a war game felt like a silly rgp haha. DIdnt help that there rules are locked behind a pay wall so i ad no idea how the detachment worked. Also the inquisitor did more damage then any of my units at 95 points....wasn't very balanced! thanks for the upoad.
Holy... £114-£160+ for a set of cardboard pop up terrain...is this company owned by gw? 😮
83rd Ballistic Regiment "Fury of the Throne", with seven novels of lore: won two games at their LGS after playing 17 times.
Mid AF: world champion.
Not the army. A man. The smart, great player. Plastic miniatures can't think and win.
Golden Dommy Mommy's legs gooooooo!
Golden Morathi legs doesnt sound bad
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I like Folgers, its decent coffee
ya just dont wanna be executed by a jim henson muppet, thays why you say it
Dude, the white screen... not the best. Thanks for all the info.
OK so legends units aren't allowed in tournaments because balance, except for custodes, which uses legends units and then beats everyone hands down. got it.
Oof 😂
oh man, I was scared that guard actually won a tournament....whew.....
Edit: Crap , we placed second...standing by for nerfs...
Guard second and third and I think even more throughout the top 16
If he lost, he could have blamed his list for being mid af 😂
Genius
Shows that GW is actually trying with the game balance for 10th. Still he must have been playing for his fucking life to win this ^^ .
From what I heard, he was lucky on the 4++ in the final game, but even losing that final game would have been a great result for Custodes.
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The hydras are an odd choice.
They go well into: Elite infantry, flying monsters such as Angron and C'Tans and they do well against tough necrons like Silent King and monolith.
85pts, they re-roll hits against flying units (so Tau suits, flying daemons, chaos primarchs, jump pack troops, necron doomsythes, a lot of that stuff is in the meta), they are twin linked so re-roll wounds, they are damage 3 so kill elite infantry and you can increase their AP. You also get a hunter killer, they are lethal hits against vehicles as well, and it's a very cheap T9, 11W, OC3 vehicle. I mean an Impulsor for maines is only 5pts less and basically has the same profile and has no guns.
Just so everyone is aware talons fnp boost is ONLY in shooting and fight phases
So it doesn’t work for tank shock, or any MW done from dropped bombs
So shield host has the better strat imo
The Strat has that limit. But if you're talking about the detachment rule which is 5+ FnP, that works on any Mortal wounds as long as you're 6 inches near an SoS unit.
@ yes I’m talking about the strat also the detatchment rule is a pile of shit as I’m rarely ever close to my sisters
Uh oh marines did a decent job i sense a nerf incoming 😅 dang those talented tournament players
Lol if there is something this WCW shown us is that the guy who rolls better is a better player. XD
Playing a competitive Space Marine list with basically no Space Marine infantry, that's so fucking stupid and a reason why I'm not a fan of 10th edition.
Dice decide games...the end.
4:40 that is the female custodes model?
No such thing exists. Tzeench has been messing with you.
Im just sad gws coverage is so farsically bad compared to the streams some dudes run at pretty much any other tournament.
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Please don't nerf Custodies because of this. They are in my eyes quite bad.
They will get nerfed, because I play them. Every faction I play gets nuked. Black templars got sent to the bin, sisters are potentially about to get fucked over, deathwatch got removed from the bloody game and now custodes had the gall to win something so will promptly be seen as a problem by GW, same as templars. They won 1 GT in 3 months and basically got removed from play 🥲
Nerf for blade plus warden can be ok if there is a UP for the rest of the army.
3 minutes late
Its a little sad that GW coordinates such a big tournament that could produce insane amounts of contents, only to waste it with what they call a stream. GWs streams have always been meh when it comes to actual bat reps but I feel while every other channel gets better, theirs get worse all the time.
I dont even bother to watch anymore because the commentary is meh, the camera angles are meh, everything is boring and meh.
Custodes win the tournament, GW : OK maybe we should nerf them🤔
Marine in a semi-final, GW : OK maybe we should nerf them🤔
Marine player : WTF🙄😳😳
MID AF FTW
not surprising, custodies have been busted since they changed dev wounds...zero clue how noone else saw this, ive been saying this for months
How is gold the colour of a banana......? Get your colour palette right.
If you say banana boys your just jealous pffffffffff.
Now nerf custodes
Notice the adjectives... simple and casual. Mr. Tactics has def been bad touched. Hey, Auspex, show me where the Custodian Guard touched you on this doll.
Unexpected, really? Everyone I've personally seen or heard playing against Custodes hates it