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Edison Motors is a privately owned Canadian Clean Technology Company That Manufactures Electric Semi Trucks.
Dec 2021: Edison Motors was announced to the public
July 2022: Edison built North America’s first electric logging truck.
Oct 2022: Edison completed prototype testing
Nov 2022: Edison Motors began building their first production truck: an Edison L750
Edison Motors aims to produce Electric & Hybrid Vocational Trucks & EV Conversion Kits that deliver fuel savings without compromise.
Edison Motors was founded by Chace Barber and Eric Little who entered their business partnership in 2016 after graduating university and starting a trucking company with a 1969 Kenworth 5 axle Logging Truck (Old Blue). They began hauling logs in Merritt, BC. moved to hauling mining equipment into the Yukon and then expanded to moving drilling rigs in Alberta before returning back to BC Logging.
The business grew, more trucks were added and due to the frustration in serviceability of newer trucks the partners started rebuilding older trucks from the frame rails up to use in their own trucking operation instead of buying new truck. The business grew and expanded to hauling and installing power generation systems. In 2019 this added business aspect and growth to taking on the role of engineering and designing off-grid solar hybrid power systems. After their first successful project design and construction of a first nations community in northern BC Canada, Eric and Chace started to engineering process of a diesel-electric semi truck using the same principles.
After reserving a Tesla semi in 2017 and not receiving the truck for 4 years, in 2021 they decided to start building their own electric trucks because that was quicker than waiting for the Tesla delivery and resulted in designing of a more robust truck tailored to the logging and heavy vocational industries their trucking company operated in.
The Edison Truck is the result of a trucking company who remanufactured classic logging trucks with their engineering expertise of off-grid hybrid power systems. It is the aim of Edison Team to have the reliability and serviceability of a classic semi with the efficiency, power, and emissions standards of an electric truck.
Building The Truck Of The Future With The Quality Of The Past.
We only want to sell you the truck once.
Much like the Pacific trucks of the 1960’s and 1970’s. The Edison trucks are designed to be able to last, we understand the more uptime the truck sees and the longer it’s service life the better the Return on Investment is in the truck.
This is Edison Motors goal and philosophy, build the futures electric truck to run efficient as possible while being as simple to maintain as possible.
We are truckers, building truck, for truckers.
We let the engineers decided what components the truck needs for the electrical side, then we have experienced mechanics tell us what parts and being used and where those parts are going.
Our mechanics are use to working on logging trucks that are broken down in the middle of the bush, they know they’re the ones who will have to go repair them. We believe that nobody is better are make sure the truck is reliable and easy to fix as the ones who have to lay in snow at -40’ below or in spring mud.
Don’t kid yourself, these are the most efficient & modern trucks you can possible buy on the market today, but they’re made to be fixed in the bush. Our truck is high tech so your shop doesn’t have to be.
When your Edison Truck is delivered you can be sure you won’t need to go truck shopping again until you want to expand the fleet
In The Shop
It’s a fact in the vocational world that trucks are going to break-down. Off-road heavy hauling and logging in Canada beats up equipment. Edison plans for this by engineering our parts and equipment to make them as easy to service as possible for your mechanics.
Edison has a multi-layer process to achieve this goal:
* The first step is early involvement of mechanics into the design process, making sure experienced mechanics look at the design for serviceability
* Using commonly sourced parts, we try wherever possible to limit any custom built parts and opt for the common aftermarket parts companies use. This makes sure when something breaks you can go into any parts store and have the piece you need to get back on the road
* no fault codes, if there is a fault our computer will tell you exact what the check engine light means
9:04 -- "You know, for the CEO of a tech company, I sure spend an awful lot of time running a backhoe."
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Orange is the new black!
Might not be a bad idea for the canbus wires to be a different color like blue or something so that someone doesn’t confuse them with 12 volt wires.
That's true, one wrong probe could get ugly
Yeah, I was thinking blue also, because of "data". Blue is a common color for Ethernet cable.
Yellow and green.... same as j1939 so everyone knows..... just my $0.02
@@stephenlowes9120Isn't yellow and green usually ground? 🤔 There might be differences between Europe and America, tough...
White or black is normally ground. Black is usually negative but in 7 way trailer wiring, black and brown are running/clearance lights, red brakes, yellow left, green right, blue ABS/aux and white is ground. All of our j1939 datalink wires are yellow and green for the datalink (high and low) and some newer trucks run 2 datalinks a j1939 hi bus (running a green, yellow and a sheild/drain wire) and a normal j1939 low bus (just a regular non shielded twisted pair). Difference being speed, high bus runs faster.... would need to look up spec again, but I think 5k/sec.... older stuff runs j1708, which is normally grey and..... red? Maybe grey and grey. This is all for 9 pin black and green plugs (1708 is grey 6 pin). The volvos/mack are running to the 16 pin OBD2 plug but still running j1939 datalinks in them. In all of them black is ground and red is 12V+
For CEO of a tech company, you do a lot more real, meaningful work than any other I know of.
That’s probably why we’re actually getting things done
@@EdisonMotors I absolutely agree
Some tech ceo goes to space for fun. Chace just run a backhoe
That sounds about right
It would probably be a good idea to run the CAN bus wires in something like blue/pink so no one confuses them with 12v
A TRUCKER building new age trucks for TRUCKERS! 💪🏼👍🏼
I feel like most companies waste money on fancy garbage and cheap out where it counts. If you guys made pickup trucks even if they where a little more expensive I would buy one.
Samesies
If they get big enough which I hope they do. Them having a service to turn old pickup trucks as well as older cars into electric vehicles might be worth it.
I really, really want my F150 to last long enough to buy a 350+ Edison. I would spend stupid money on an edison pickup.
So a 1980s toyota pick up?
i would absolutely spend the extra to get any vehicle built this rugged, course wouldn't ever have to replace them but that doesn't mean i wouldn't buy more then one.
I really like the roof solar part. Like a battery tender you never have to remember to plug in.
Whats it feel like Just Before You DOMINATE the Short Haul Trucking World?
Roof should be angled slightly for snow to run off. Especially with the solar panels and the horns. You don't be able to drive through a scraper
You’re right.. next design we’ll make some minor changes like this
You can color mark your lines per code and since this is a concept this will be your final to do list for streamline production off of this model. Great job so far guy keep on trucking 💪🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Take notes as you install thing...when it comes to mass production you will want jigs and custom made tools to really speed up up the things like installing the batteries
to Mr. "I ruin everybody's day at the end of the day", you can do it without issue because going after crippled people is wrong, even if they are temporarily crippled
I feel like the broken backhoe window is just a staple of this channel now
I can’t wait to invest in Edison motors. We believe in you!
Dang I had no idea this was happening in almost my backyard! Fan bloody tastic!
And sorry about the smoky air, it's coming from near my place in the Fraser Canyon.
Can't wait to see this beast running down the road!
Gotta be able to drive differ the pixie lines, from the angry pixie lines, from the blow hard lines! 😆 from the rare fossil fuel line!
I really like the central seating position and the frontside windows. Awesome visibility. I operate snowcats and center seat + great visibility is an amazing trait.
I think diesel electric should be more recognized glad u taking the first steps
I’d love to see these trucks working here in Aus, and I’m sitting here wondering if they would be viable as a long haul Road Train tractor
Hmm, could be good for lighter specialty huals like medicine or hardware, with the solar trailor, fuel costs would be minimal.
They will certainly be viable for pulling road trains, it's just a locomotive on rubber tires, plus it's easy to add front drive which would be extremely handy in the outback!
I don't believe there would be much regen in road train usage, so probably not any benefit to this system
@@jmanlinc the benefits would be smooth much faster acceleration, less maintenance and much better longevity!
I'm sure there are a lot of benefits I failed to list
@@jmanlinc locomotives that pull the heaviest loads on land have been diesel/ electric since the 1930s, so therefore it absolutely makes sense for road trains, plus the batteries make it so you don't have to run your engine to have a/c when you're stopped
you'll get there
I love how everything comes together
I'm glad to see that's all coming together. 😊😊😊
Seen at 7:05, the 32-spline "this" is an adapter hub that's held by just the friction fit of its machined taper. Amazing that such a compact piece is able to withstand the high-torque at low speed of a diesel engine.
Three phase power could be a really cool feature for something like a service truck featuring big welders etc.
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Great update guys! After seeing all the comments on black HV lines from past videos, I knew the CAN wire's colour would be a sore topic when it made it into a video 😂 never seen an mfg make orange CAN wire. Still sad Richard missed the round robin of introductions with how helpful he is, but glad to see him in more shots. Meanwhile Eric's on fire with updates and explanations, keep it up man! Chase's tighten-till-righty-loosey tip works well on generator plates, but it works even better on HV cable lugs 😉. Can't wait to see the video titled "holy shit the wheels really turn" closely followed by "electric heavy haul truck + walmart lot = greenest burnouts & donuts ever"
That isolator is similar to the idea of a cush drive for a motorcycle hub. Didnt expect that i assumed it'd be hard mounted
Unfortunately the one solar panel is probably doing near to bubkis under that triple air horn
And might be actually hurting the other one if they're in series.
Your build progress is to be commended but your marketing is really out of this world. You have people all over the world, many of whom are nowhere near the logging industry or carry a CDL, feeling invested in your success.
I bet Chace's dad is so proud.
Sounds like a good group to be working with
Enjoy watching your progress. Couple comments: have seen using hydraulic hose with glycol, gets brittle and starts cracking after about 3 years. You should check out spiral hose wrap for your wiring. I see you can get it in different colors.
I think they opted not to do spiral hose wrap. Checkout the episode where Chase was out buying that black sleeve thing.
Stoked!!! You guys kicked ass! Home stretch!!!
Beautiful when a plan comes together, looking forward to a subsequent service truck build. ( 'Was about to electrify our Square body dually, think I'll wait to see what path you take") Edison Motors has the USA watching..
This is awesome,,,, you are putting this together the same way and with the same tools as what would be available to customers in the field,,,, if you can't do it, they can't do it
Ingenious dudes doing great things, with normal stuff. Gives me some hope for the world, watching these dudes make this idea come to life.
Great vidio. First one I saw was at the show. Glad to see some background. May your truck be a stupendous success.
I suggest you check the endplay in the crankshaft of the engine before startup just because that was the initial fitment of the generator and you wanna make sure it’s gonna be kosher… hate to see an end load on the crank taking out the thrust plates.
You should probably not have those horns over that solar panel, I think that will cut down on its potential voltage output.
Also a potential risk for the horns to damage the panels too perhaps?
Being a dairy farmer I would be very intrigued to see this kind of platfrom made into a tractor.
I'm sure John Deere would love to build you one then charge you the cost of your farm to do any maintenance on it!
100% solid edison lovin its go guys git er done.
Your tech company will survive because you are running the backhoe so much! Once you start setting behind a desk and start analyzing spreadsheets trying to figure out how to raise the profit margin, you’re no better than the rest. I’m in the process of ordering 3 new Western Star 49X’s, it’s infuriating what they tell me I can’t have. It disrupts the assembly line. It’s Henry Fords classic “you can have any color you want, as long as it’s Black”. Keep being you!
I really hope you did the Canadian thing and wrapped those cables in hockey tape.
Glad to see stuff is finally starting to work out for you fellas - you definitely deserve it!
It seems you are missing an encabulator
this is funny, the all orange wiring reminds me of my uncles unkillable f100, it was so rusty you could see the highway through the floor and was re wired with ALL yellow wires in the whole truck. but she would start every time.
This truck is killer! It's all kind of built excessive but still functional. I like combination of new technology in an old truck
"Anything on the framerail should be wear resistant".
*me staring at my stainless steel coolant pipe on the racecar* I think I'm good. Lol
Please use 304 or 410. Stainless 3000 psi tubing or schedule 80 stainless steel pipe collect and brake lines ! Along your frame rail!
@4500tonpress it is 304. Just a short pipe for packaging.
GOOD JOB BOYS!
Looking good!!
You guys are doing an amazing job on the truck
Interesting your using Danfos plus 1 controllers..for your ECUs..I use them for hydraulic controllers there scokum
Nice
Bro 120v in cab never gonna have to stop to microwave a burrito again
It might be something that you want to consider for members, but have you ever thought about setting up a webcam somewhere in the shop and letting it run as a livestream during the build? People might want to tune in just to watch the work in real time.
The video editing has been great lately
Best CEO ever 😊
“For a ceo of a tech company I sure do spend a lot o time runnin a backhoe” -chace 2023
High voltage will only be a problem after a wreck. The hose draggers show up. First thing they do is cut battery cables. Lot of energy in your big batteries.
How about a startup capacitor bank setup for the generator motor. This would be better in cold weather and will increase the life of the lead acid batteries. Maxwell makes them for commercial trucks. KBI makes them with a built in jump starter.
@4:00 IS THAT FLEXIBLE SOLAR PANELS ON THE TOP OF A SEMI TRUCK???? HAHAHA YES!!!!
Did you use Loctite?
Yes 😂
Im not an engineer but for coupling the generator to the engine wouldnt it be more convenient to mount the generator a couple feet back to the engine and run a small driveshaft with lovejoy coupler for damping? Would make it easier to fit to make any generator/engine combo?
flywheel bolts torqued and loctited???? spline lube?
imagen the same drive line idea applied to a RV chassy or a pick up truck.
Canbus should be orange and black,
high voltage use orange wrap.
Color code all similar systems
Lmao you guys are rad fyi second from the left guy …. Montana is MT 😝21:48
I think bright colors lines are easier to see and work on when dirty or in low light conditions. Maybe for the BUS lines a Bright Green or Blue would look good and make field servicing easier.
The truck is in good hands
And one of those hands is in a good cast
Love your work guys !
Please change your lov voltage into lithium battery. Saves a lot of time.
Just wondering how much the batteries weigh, seems most electric cars and trucks are much heavier than their gas / counterparts. Keep up with the great videos.
Need to make the batteries and the controller on top of the generator easy to remove or acsess for future problems batteries should be able to remove from the bottom of the frame so you don't have to remove headache rack to access them better for maintenance
i wish i had a way to invest in you guys, i bet youre going to make a stupid amount of money once things get going
Same here!
Late to the party but congratulations everyone!
Orange hydraulic hose sheathing would be very wear resistant for the high voltage cables... Ok, likely not available in Kamloops this week.👍
Is the 120V powerful enough to plug in proper appliances - ?? coffee machine or vacuum cleaner, pie oven, full size microwave?? - typical trucker loads (hmm, maybe not the vacuum cleaner)
The "damping" coupling - absorbs the higher order dervivatives of "power"/torque - nice addition to protect the motor from drivetrain vibrations.
awesome!
She is a beauty.
One of the things I have over the last 50 years of building very large Forging furnaces & Forgot equipment is! We start using the body wrap shop to make very inexpensive tags signs electrical panels face and back panels ! Instead of purchasing separate wire tags motor tags breaker tags inverters tag it all. Cones from the wrap shop
You can put in a x on the back panel or a x any where you need the center of a hold drill and tap w simply cad drawing given to a wrap or sign shops till save you so much time marking holes every truck will have the same signs and tags
i have that same yellow palm leaf work shirt
I’m sure someone would have said something but the roof solar panel shaded by the train horn would almost be useless, can the horn be moved back a bit or just have one panel.
5:00 dude couldn't come up with the fact that drivers would be plugging microwaves into those 120v outlets :)
MO is Missouri And MT is Montana. LOL
So, you are building an off highway/off-road truck. Will it be able to twist the frame on ruff terrains and if it is - do you have enough clearance for all in-frame gizmos and gadgets? Won't they be damaged inside twisting framerail?
It would be cool if you could design the cab mounts. So the cab and headache rack can be tilted backwards or hard maintenance, not all the way, like the back of the cab/rack at a 45° angle, and the front clip tilt forward, at about 75°-90° by removing a few bolt, and possibly placing them in limit and/or hinge holes. If all the wiring harness is at the rear. And the only connection at the front is steering. Removing a bolt and or pin, I could see a quick release, with a bolt on shell over it with safety wire, or just safety wire the disconnect however a shell will keep water and 'stuff' out of the splines, a closed cell rubber foam in a aluminum clam shell making a seal around the coupling!
It would be awesome to have the cab tilted back, the front clip tilted forward. Making everything in the frame from generator to radiator! 👍
Y'all better put a skookum DC to DC between the hi voltage system and the 24v, if the solar panels are covered with snow and someone leaves the inverter on over a weekend those little lead acids could die and leave the truck stranded.
As someone who works on equipment, maybe spread the work force around a bit more. Don’t need 7 people installing 2 batteries. Lots of other things to get done. Just my 2 cents. Truck is looking great guys, I appreciate you guys pushing the industry in the right direction!
shading the solar with the air horns defeats the purpose of solar. look up the effect of a shaded solar panel on the panel and other panels (depending upon how it's wired up).
Definitely make your canbus lines blue… so 10 years down the road a fella can have a chance of not Misidentifying them once their old and dirty and the like
Pereira ... Purr-rare-ah :)
They do say orange is the new black...
Anyone not knowing anything about trucks, that's ok. Just know you're WATCHING HISTORY BEING MADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can't be more proud of my Canadian brothers!!!!!!!!!!!
You cant help but worry
Your horns appear to shade one solar panel which will make that solar panel inop…
I'm glad I had ole Uncle Bumblefuck to teach me the language of the trades, because otherwise I'd have no clue what they're saying half the time. Thanks, AvE. 🤣
You should make a pick up truck like the hayes grizzly next
@brianb-p6586 I actually just seen that article today and thought it something they should do next I understand the joke behind calling it Edison but I wish there was a way to take the hayes name since there start off making the same kind of trucks hayes pioneered with a hybrid twist
Watching batteries go in makes me think about some sort of fire suppression system. Maybe a couple of nozzels pointed at batteries incase they do ignite. Wont put them out but enough time for operator to get out and safely away.
@@brianb-p6586 I was thinking more about punctures from off highway use, also maybe not starting another giant Canadian Forrest fire.
16:22 ima nit pick 6 eye balls without safety goggles(assuming the glasses are safety rated) while (assumed) using the kind of chrome-alloy socket that have a tandancy to explode when under torque. i know im a karen here, and he isnt torquing it the heck down, but the danger still exists, either wear your safety squints or get the right kind of sockets for the application ( here in the us impact rated sockets are dark matte colored)
I'm yet to see a chrome socket explode in any way, they just split
Great work ! Maybe a tilt cab ? That tips off to the side, like a skidder cab
Also May stainless hard lines for the coolant to the rear.
It’s easy to spend other people’s money