Great review, I chose the 6.8 on my new F-250 Supercab primarily because of no Cylinder Deactivation and Auto Start Stop on that engine. That sold me right there,picking it up next week. Subscribed.
He's complaining about highway handling in a work truck package with all terrain tires. Buddy, that truck was built to work, not take turns at high speeds. You have to take into consideration the purpose of the build. Also, those tires are going to slow 0-60 time and reduce mpg overall. Your mpg numbers are whack! You need to drive much farther than you did and actually hand jam the numbers. The mpg gauge s on most vehicles are not accurate. Who includes a WOT run into the avg mpg? Anyone worried about mpg won't do wot pulls.
I would think the dealers lending him these does NOT want hundreds and hundreds of miles put on them so long range MPG is off the table. Channels you see doing those are getting press vehicles on short and long-term loans from the manufacturer OR purchasing them as you see TFL do. While a 0-60 is not the most essential test it does give you somewhat of an idea on acceleration which is useful knowledge when you need to use short on ramps, evasive maneuvers or simply passing. What is your YT channel where I can see perfect comparisons? Ya, I thought so.
That XL has the offroad package with the 17s and 33" Duratracs. As you mentioned, that would contribute to the squishy feel and mpg loss. I'd love your impressions of the STX with the 6.8L and 18s with ATs and see how that compares. I was all for the 7.3L, but the more I see reviews of the 6.8L, it seems it would be a good choice to stick with and save the $2,500 (CAD) upgrade to the 7.3L. That pays for half of the STX package, which to me is a must-have on the XL.
Nice video. I’ve been saying this ever since Ford announced the 6.8 and I think you confirmed it in that it’s going to feel peppier than the 7.3 because it has a much shorter stroke. Same bore, but much shorter stroke. So it will by default rev quicker. Its power band will be different too. Not as good low speed torque but better mid range and a much better top end. Some of that could have been from the 10R100 because that’s the F150 10 speed but I’m willing to bet most of it is from the significantly shorter stroke of the 6.8. It probably won’t feel as good towing but empty driving it’s going to be a lot more responsive and feel quicker than a 7.3.
The f150 uses a 10r80, the 6.8 has 10r100 and 7.3 gets 10r140. The numbers are newton-meters of torque. So each one is rates at about 590/700/1000 lb/ft of torque respectively.
And here I am with the old 6.4 Hemi lol. In the next 3 years I'll be going uo to a 3500srw truck. It's going to be the 6.4 if they're still making them. The 6.4 and that 8 spd transmission is bad ass. I tow over 10k lbs a lot. It's mostly a 5th wheel now.
@@SliderFury1 imo I don't think the big gas engines will go away. They're only getting better and are a much better option. I think Ram will either update the Hemi or come out with something new.
@@Mattman2500oh I agree, I just meant the 6.4 Hemi specifically, there's talk that an "H.O". Hurricane is in the works to replace it. Also rumors that Cummins would do a big block gas for Ram (but who knows now with that big lawsuit they got slapped with). I just think if you want that specific combo (6.4 Hemi/ZF Trans), you might not have much time. Or I could be totally wrong lol this market/industry is so insane right now. But, the 5.7 is getting put away now so…
How’s it still holding up? Only thing that worries me with buying the 6.4 is the MDS.. they seem to have the lifter issues like the gm lifter problem.. scaring me away from the dodge.. they seem to be giving better deals though.
The 10R100 is definitely smoother shifting than the 10R140. What's weird is my '23 STX 6.8L does 0-60 much faster than that one. I wonder if it's the bigger tires.
Ok so im curious as to why you mention the backup camera, but yet you turn around to back up🤔 this is what it was designed for along with your side mirrors. Its taking away the blind spot, as well as helping to align for your tow hitch
Love your reviews JB. Seems like trimming some weight with a smaller displacement engine could be something that should save you some cash at the pump. Does the 7.3 really get better MPG ?Anyway, you always stimulate my thoughts.
The smaller displacement is going to consume more fuel under tow conditions, it will work harder. The differences would more show with the gear ratios and how heavy your foot is
The truck isn't accurate, I think it is only 2wd. If he has smaller tires that will help. The truck isn't lifted so that helps. All in all tho 12 seems pretty good.
Them tires get louder as they break in! I am looking for a HD truck and I drove the ram 2500 I think the ford did better in two ways better MPG and comfortable but the latter is more personal choice.
One of these days maybe you can learn to be a little more polite. I don't understand people like you who feel compelled to be rude via a keyboard. Have a great day.
JB - I would like to see you drive these trucks farther to get a better idea of MPG. I would exclude the WOT from the MPG portion as well.
Great review, I chose the 6.8 on my new F-250 Supercab primarily because of no Cylinder Deactivation and Auto Start Stop on that engine.
That sold me right there,picking it up next week. Subscribed.
That’s awesome and good luck with your purchase 👍🏾👍🏾
Good to know about that looking at these trucks thank you!
The 6.8 doesn't have the belt driven oil pump like the 5.0 does it ?
He's complaining about highway handling in a work truck package with all terrain tires. Buddy, that truck was built to work, not take turns at high speeds. You have to take into consideration the purpose of the build. Also, those tires are going to slow 0-60 time and reduce mpg overall. Your mpg numbers are whack! You need to drive much farther than you did and actually hand jam the numbers. The mpg gauge s on most vehicles are not accurate. Who includes a WOT run into the avg mpg? Anyone worried about mpg won't do wot pulls.
He knows nothing but specs he reads
I would think the dealers lending him these does NOT want hundreds and hundreds of miles put on them so long range MPG is off the table. Channels you see doing those are getting press vehicles on short and long-term loans from the manufacturer OR purchasing them as you see TFL do. While a 0-60 is not the most essential test it does give you somewhat of an idea on acceleration which is useful knowledge when you need to use short on ramps, evasive maneuvers or simply passing. What is your YT channel where I can see perfect comparisons? Ya, I thought so.
Another outstanding review Justin!!! Thank you for creating thoughtful and informative content. Much love, God Bless.
That XL has the offroad package with the 17s and 33" Duratracs. As you mentioned, that would contribute to the squishy feel and mpg loss.
I'd love your impressions of the STX with the 6.8L and 18s with ATs and see how that compares. I was all for the 7.3L, but the more I see reviews of the 6.8L, it seems it would be a good choice to stick with and save the $2,500 (CAD) upgrade to the 7.3L. That pays for half of the STX package, which to me is a must-have on the XL.
Nice video. I’ve been saying this ever since Ford announced the 6.8 and I think you confirmed it in that it’s going to feel peppier than the 7.3 because it has a much shorter stroke. Same bore, but much shorter stroke. So it will by default rev quicker. Its power band will be different too. Not as good low speed torque but better mid range and a much better top end.
Some of that could have been from the 10R100 because that’s the F150 10 speed but I’m willing to bet most of it is from the significantly shorter stroke of the 6.8. It probably won’t feel as good towing but empty driving it’s going to be a lot more responsive and feel quicker than a 7.3.
The f150 uses a 10r80, the 6.8 has 10r100 and 7.3 gets 10r140. The numbers are newton-meters of torque. So each one is rates at about 590/700/1000 lb/ft of torque respectively.
And here I am with the old 6.4 Hemi lol. In the next 3 years I'll be going uo to a 3500srw truck. It's going to be the 6.4 if they're still making them. The 6.4 and that 8 spd transmission is bad ass. I tow over 10k lbs a lot. It's mostly a 5th wheel now.
Not a thing wrong with that, arguably just as good of a combination with engine and Trans as the the other 2 brands...
Keep an eye out, I'm thinking 2-3 years from now is about when they'll stop so you just might be able to get the last round of em
@@SliderFury1 imo I don't think the big gas engines will go away. They're only getting better and are a much better option. I think Ram will either update the Hemi or come out with something new.
@@Mattman2500oh I agree, I just meant the 6.4 Hemi specifically, there's talk that an "H.O". Hurricane is in the works to replace it. Also rumors that Cummins would do a big block gas for Ram (but who knows now with that big lawsuit they got slapped with). I just think if you want that specific combo (6.4 Hemi/ZF Trans), you might not have much time.
Or I could be totally wrong lol this market/industry is so insane right now. But, the 5.7 is getting put away now so…
How’s it still holding up? Only thing that worries me with buying the 6.4 is the MDS.. they seem to have the lifter issues like the gm lifter problem.. scaring me away from the dodge.. they seem to be giving better deals though.
What gears did they have, there are at least a couple different options?
Great real world test - thanks!
The 10R100 is definitely smoother shifting than the 10R140. What's weird is my '23 STX 6.8L does 0-60 much faster than that one. I wonder if it's the bigger tires.
The F150 needs that drive train and I would buy it
That would be awesome a f150 with the 6.8 4x4 with the 6.6ft bed
Ok so im curious as to why you mention the backup camera, but yet you turn around to back up🤔 this is what it was designed for along with your side mirrors. Its taking away the blind spot, as well as helping to align for your tow hitch
What I learned from your video, never judge a video by its thumbnail.
Almost sounds like the perfect all around better budgeted do it all pick up.
Get rid of the factory shocks, and put Bilsteins on all the way around.
Did rancho on my 2000, way better.
Love your reviews JB. Seems like trimming some weight with a smaller displacement engine could be something that should save you some cash at the pump. Does the 7.3 really get better MPG ?Anyway, you always stimulate my thoughts.
Not with the 4.30 gears.
I think the 6.8 and 7.3 use the same block, just shorter stroke on the 6.8. So I don't think there is a Weight savings.
The smaller displacement is going to consume more fuel under tow conditions, it will work harder. The differences would more show with the gear ratios and how heavy your foot is
I get ~17mpg unloaded and ~10mpg towing about 8k on flat highway @70mph or less. 6.8L STX CC 3.73s.
I just bought a 2024 f250 fx4 6.8 gas and I only get 12 mpg on freeway so far . Truck has 400 miles on it. How are you getting more?
The truck isn't accurate, I think it is only 2wd. If he has smaller tires that will help. The truck isn't lifted so that helps. All in all tho 12 seems pretty good.
Great video,
Thanks for the information video
Them tires get louder as they break in! I am looking for a HD truck and I drove the ram 2500 I think the ford did better in two ways better MPG and comfortable but the latter is more personal choice.
Reminds me of the 5.0 for the half tons in a way
You need to understand the difference in the transmission is the amount that they can tow, 6.8 ls good for 15,000 lb, 7.3 is good for 17,000 lb
Someone needs to swap the 6.8 in a f150 or a mustang.
Ahhh. Do a towing video with a 6.8!
Yes please :)
Need to do a real fuel loop with out wide open throttle.
I wonder how the F250 XL with the FX4 package handles?
Fx4 is nothing but shocks man
@@rontopping7811 shocks, down hill assist and skid plates
@retiredafce3373 yes shocks are a stiffer ride
@@rontopping7811 I can’t tell the difference. I’ve had mine for a week now.
@retiredafce3373 I always purchase fx4 then swap shocks for billstien
JB I don’t see the 6.8 liter v-8 on fords website when I build a Ford Super Duty
Its there, have to go to XL trim only. On both 250 and 350.
Well they should make the engine available in almost every trim level they have
@@brianhobbs3373 not everyone likes the xl trim
Should at least include the XLT for sure, maybe the Lariat.
I figured the 6.8 would be closer to the Chevy
Fuel economy means regular driving not flooring it.one of these days I wish you would learn that
One of these days maybe you can learn to be a little more polite. I don't understand people like you who feel compelled to be rude via a keyboard. Have a great day.
@@davidcmatson that was facts not rude.dumbass
@@davidcmatson
You can't talk sense into a ford guy. If they had any sense they'd stop getting their panties twisted so easily.
@@treeamigo8447 the person you are referring to does have sense, if your comparing fuel milage you would never do a wot, this is a power/torque test.
@@Christopher-p1u2l
It's whatever test jb wants it to be. Get a life.
Should pay better attention to the road my dude