Episode 134 - Warning New fake/counterfeit Chinese Microphones - Beta 58
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
- Most people know that the vast amount of Shure SM57 and SM58 mics on EBAY and Amazon are fakes, but until now I had never seen a fake Beta 58. It was cheap (less than 20 pounds) and it's very, very hard to tell the difference - but I found a few give aways. Watch the video and you can check if you have a fake or not.
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you can here that the real is clean vocally when you have them back to back a clearer top end, but this has me worried that my Beta 58 might be fake, it is close
Can you check the fake for if it has the transformer or not. This makes a huge difference in the response curve.
The fake one has horrible handling noise and electronic interference as well as a more tinny sound
Mic 2 is the fake, it sounds a bit crispier where the original is slightly more smooth
I recently bought an identical microphone. Solid, very good quality housing. I'm impressed. Unfortunately, I noticed that is not resistant to dealing with the so-called handling noise - which can also be heard in this video. For those who are thinking about buying such a fake: I think this microphone will be good as just a stationary one. Not suitable for live performances. But if you have a choice, don't buy cheap mics from China.
Good comment. The trouble now is we used to have genuine vs fake, but now we have had a new category added, genuine official and genuine unofficial - as in as soon as the big name manufacturers start to make stuff in China, B grade genuine products will find their way out of the back door. It's getting tricky.
@@CouncilWatch-qz2wt Nonsense. They are real - just lower quality because they make them that way. They are made in China to the manufacturer's specifications, so they are real and the quality is going down because the manufacturers are looking to make a big profit. We see this in the garment industry - lots of manufacturers are selling lower quality goods made in off shore plants with cheap labor, cheap and lower quality raw materials, and cutting corners with cheaper methods of manufacturing. It is happening all around us. To make it even worse, companies like Harmon sell out to larger conglomerate companies that want the brand name, and they suck the value out of the products by cheapening them, and cheapening the way they are made, and what they are made of, without telling the consumer they are cheapening products down without lowering prices to make money from the brand name reputation. They will later sell the brand to a lesser concern after they suck the life out of it, and it will survive, but selling even cheaper goods with lower margin. Look at what happened to Fisher, Nakamichi, Scott, Sansui, Bell & Howell, and so many other companies that were once solid quality goods in the audio market - they were all drained of value, sold off to secondary owners, and sorely cheapened in the process. Call it corporate raiding or what you will, but that is happening all over the economy in multiple sectors. How do I know, because I was a forensic product quality lawyer for industry. Your distinction about "genuine official" and genuine "un-official" sounds made up and seems to be a fiction of your imagination. What you refer to are official goods - just lower quality made in Asian factories to suck profit from a reputable brand name. These companies are making official - not un-official - goods in China and other Asian factories, and quality has, indeed, gone down across the board. I wonder whether invent this sort of thing because you are compelled to say something on your ersatz channel. Sorry, I simply disagree with your assessment. JHT
Wow ... substantial difference in sound - the fake is much more sibilant and sharp at a distance, and, as you say, more alike in loser in sound up close. Substantially more puffing and chuffing from plosives on the fake one.
You should not buy fake products - that gives money to product identity theives who are too lazy, cheap, and greedy to do their own design and marketing research and development. Buying cheap knock off copy cat products are both inferior and allows a low grad person to make money off another man's hard work. Just don't buy knock offs as it cheats you and the original manufacturer.
And, if you think they sound the same ... you have little discernment. They do sound different - the fake is thinner, less full, and way more subject to chuffing from plosives - your hand held test shows this dramatically, but you fail to notice it, yourself. That really degrades your review. JHT
I’ve just noticed a new fake mic on ebay lots of them. I’ve ordered one to try against my original. I suspect that what could be happening is these really ARE Shures but the rejected ones from the Chinese plant. This could explained why they’re very, very similar. I’ll compare them when it arrives!
@@pauljohnson4590 No. They are NOT rejects from the SHURE plant. If they were rejects, they would be exactly the same as the original products in all respects, but for a blemish in the paint or some other minor flaw. Very similar does NOT make them EXACT copies ... Moreover, they are NOT rejects because A) SHURE does not sell rejects to anyone, and B) the knock offs are clearly different in several respects, and you only identified a few of these differences in your video - there are other differences as well, easily discovered if you do a full forensic comparison - I am a retired forensic lawyer for industry- while I appreciate your suggestion, I am confident SHURE does not sell rejects in retail packages with no indication they are seconds, which is illegal and enforced by the FCC in the US.
All in good fun - thanks for the reply. JHT
@@JR-lx8nn Sorry - I didn't mean Shure sells them, but a number of well known manufacturers seem to find production fails being sold. Even worse, the system allows an OEM company to manufacture branded items that can then be sold as made in a totally different country. If you were making Brand A parts, and somebody else wanted some 'production overuns' I bet they happen. Things like capsules. They'd go on the test jig and a percentage would be in the out of spec bin - throw away, or sell them. I doubt there is an American rep watching the factory 24/7
@@pauljohnson4590 You are missing the big elephant in the room. The big give away is you and others clearly demonstrate in your videos knock off copy cat versions are physically different from legitimate products in several salient respects, proving they are close, but not exact copies. If cheap copies contained OEM parts, those parts would "surely" look like original parts because they would actually be original parts. But the fake products are clearly physically different - the handles are different size, shape, color, thickness, with different markings from real OEM or legitimate handles. Fake grilles are also different size, color, shape, from legitimate parts. Rejected microphones and parts, and OEM parts, would all look exactly like legitimate microphones and parts - they would not bear these obvious differences. Moreover, shipping boxes and packaging all bear obvious differences from legit products - so they are NOT OEM parts or SHURE factory rejects. These differences clearly belie any notion they are factory rejects or comprised of OEM parts. They are clearly fakes made from fake parts. Happy trails. All in good fun. "Take Courage" old man!! JHT