It is actually not about why HB guitars are so cheap. We really should be asking why branded guitars are so overpriced? Since HB and other cheaper brands can make good guitars with this price and quality, why can fender or gibson or other big brands do the same?
The bloke explained all of that in his video! Fender have to pay the factory that makes the guitar, they have to pay the advertisers, they have to pay the distributor, they have to pay their artist endorsers, and they have to pay the shop keeper. Harley Benton simply have to pay the factory. Their costs are a 5th of Fender, hence the guitar is five times cheaper. The only way for Fender to compete HB would be for Fender to sack all of its artist endorsers, advertisers, and to sell their guitars only from their own shop.
It's all bullshit. It's just a brand and a fucking myth! Do you think Gibson or Fender (Japans strats, ORIGINALLY Fender (no squire), even two times better than US builds, no joke i got one). would let produce in their countries? I wouldn't wonder if the bodies of some types of different brands were even made in the same factory! (Not all for sure, depends on the type). Ok, distributioncosts.. but hey, really? And even THAT doesn't explain that difference of 3600 bucks for a nearly assimilable guitar in finish, woodmaterial and layout, disregarding hardware and picks!
For the low price there is also the fact that stocking and transportation virtually doesn't cost them anything since they already have it figured out and make money with it. Furthermore, they straight copy existing models, maybe even in the factories that makes the original models, so almost no research and developpement cost. The low prices with good quality also retains customers, whom will be more likely to buy another HB or a pricier concurrent model with wich they can make more money. Adding to what you already said it adds up really quickly. Win-win situation ! You really made me want to try some of their models, I think I'll order one in the near future :)
just found your chanel been watching all the old episodes they r great . I got turned on to the harley benton from Nick in the states . I just can't believe the bang for the buck with these guitars. I have two now and am planning on at least two more after the holidays but let's face it might as well get 3 and save on shipping. keep rockin my man . cheers from Boston
I've got a Harley Benton HBL400 Les Paul guitar (Left handed) completely modified, EMG active pickups, schaller black bridge with graph tech saddles and planet waves lock & trim tuming machineheads for 10 years and i love it!! Also have the Harley Benton EX-76 (Lefty as well), which i recently equipped with dimarzio Evolution pickups (I wanted to have coil splits in it for a wider array of sounds), but the one that is my favourite is the L-450Plus cherry sunburst (also left handed)!! It really sounds great!! Just had to replace the tuners and i also opted to replace its pots for CTS pots, but other than that it's pretty much full stock!! Reminded me that sweet 90's sound i love for heavy metal!! ;) Nice guitars, man!! Would most definately buy the CST24 for lefty, as well as the R-457, if there were a lefty version!! Really nice cheap guitars!! Strongly recommended!! Keep up the good work!!
Love the video. I do hope my black cherry version that is on it's way will make me happy... I'm kinda scared but excited haha... it's a cst-24t black cherry version with coil tap and rosewood fretboard, and previous owner put on PRS tuning machines and PRS knobs.
raised = risen :) ehrlich, kein problem...I love your videos...and your english is getting better too. christmas is raising prices...and some of the models pricing will be going up after christmas.
I just received my Harley Benton CST-24T with P90's. I tried to adjust the tone and the volume went down. After running through all the switch positions several times it started working as a tone again. It's a great guitar otherwise. It is set up really well. I thought they were made in Vietnam?
Another reason for price increases could be currency fluctuations. For instance here in the the UK the value of the pound against the dollar and the Euro has recently fallen.This means that anything we import from the US or Europe is more expensive. A guitar from Thomann which would have been say, £200 6 months ago now costs £260.
Oppinions on the Roswell vs. Wilkinson pickup guitars? I have 2 HB´s, CST-24 and a DC-Custom, both with wilkinson pups, but still having second thoughts of getting more HB´s with the Roswell ones, since i´v heard mixed reviews and videos about the Roswell pups. Some one who has both could comment!
As long as the workers aren't being additionally underpaid as a result of the low consumer prices, it's fantastic really, opening up the market for various guitars to poorer people
That low price is ruined when you have to pay $75 shipping and they can’t guarantee that you may have to pay more for’vat’ so I’d rather pay the money toward a better guitar than shipping costs otherwise I’d be waiting for delivery this week
That's the same thing with Rondo .... you buy direct from them .... I can get a custom Tele that looks a lot like the George Harrison Tribute for $425 with my logo on the top ...
Brian Donnelly yep, thats true. i just cant check them out. shipping costs are very high if i remember correctly. otherwise i would have already tested out those sick 7 and 8 strings!
Cory, you make some good points here - well done !!! I guess one good reason to buy a guitar through a shop/retail outlet is quality control. A good shop that has an ongoing relationship with its customers will not hand over a guitar with defects. In essence, a guitar store that values its customers and its 'chops' will act as a 'filter' against a poor product. And I'm not saying that HBs are a 'poor product', either. You get what you pay for, in most cases. (With HBs you don't get a case at all :)) That was a joke! In all seriousness, the guitars SOUND GREAT !!! The remind me of a B&G Little Sister... and that's a compliment !!! I really like your reviews... and you play superbly. Greetings, and thanks, from sunny Australia.
@peter mcclelland Don't agree with the local music shop care nonsense. In 2018, IMRE they employ Millennial kidadults with characteristic nacissistic attitude. To add insult to injury, 'customer care' with 'attitude' costs more than I am prepared to pay for lazy 'advice' or lacklustre improvised luthiering skillz I can identify as 'I do better than' after viewing a 10 minute "How to" on You Tube. I buy everything guitar orientated online now, including brand name guitars. That way I know the person setting it up won't be an lazy idiot, and will have sufficient emotional attachment and reason to care.
Thanks Blytonian, interesting response... if a little harsh on the Millenial Kidults :) There are some good ones out there, you know. And your opinion of Harley Bentons... seems a bit 'hit and miss' to me?
I guess the way I see it is that Thomann has batter quality control than the other over seas brands. A lot of the other cheap manufacturers have those guitars made and sent to an American warehouse, where they sit there until you buy one. Sometimes you get lucky and get a good one and sometimes not. Also, so of them sit there for years before they're sold and who knows what the temperature is in there and how much the heat and humidity changes. I see that Thomann sends them directly from their home in Germany direct to your door. But they inspect it and set it up first. I think that's here they come out ahead of the other brands. American made guitars are just too dam expensive (for me) because of the cost of labor, advertising, etc. and I don't see the better quality in them for the price.
I think distribution costs was the words you were looking for, but yep. None of the middle man stuff, & Thomann passes the savings to us; the smart people who know that price, like you said, does NOT equal quality. You were one of the guys whose vids convinced me to try Harley Bentons, & I got hooked! Bought 11(3 for gifts) so far, & have my eye on at least 3 more! Oh, and DEFTONES ROCK!
Squazzoo68 yep, thats what i was searching for. i got a good friend who works for a distributor and telling me why they love selling PRS everywhere. because PRS gives them the possibility to earn much more as if they were selling an ibanez for the same price. so the customer pays 500euro and more just to the distributor sometimes. crazy imo. DEFTONES!! :-D
Honestly I am always prudent when buying and white brands such as HB. Have you ever been to Thomann headquarters? It is a money churning machine. Also are their models really originals or just ripoff of main brands? No r&d can actually save you a lot of money.
Hey, man! You are making great reviews. Are you planning on making one for Harley Benton HB-35 (ES-335 copy)? I'd love to hear your opinion before ordering it myself.
Simon Beckett im sure you will like it. I ordered all my HB blind too and was 90% satisfied. sometimes there are dirty frets but most of the time thats it
the cad-robots& the modern machienes works so good-with digital designprogramms, the materialscan cut thinner& finer ,this makes the quality higer-the endcontrol& setting is important- this makes a cheeper guitar with good quality as high Brand-guit !! the manpower is the cheeper part in this process-fit the parts together- this goes very quick-with fine toleranced parts-when the robots works well; plecmachines with laser hey, we live in modern Age/Time!!! last week i get a H.B-SC-Custom Lemmon Flame My 2nd new Guit at the last 30jears & this Bluesy-rock machine-works wery welly!! Looks so Great ! its perfect made in all details,i think i want the black sc with active picups too! to play heavy, modern stuff!! the pricy/quality is amazing! Tune down- djent in--Rock on !!!!
Arlo Guitars thanks man! i did a review of the cst24 t, its just one of my older reviews. maybe i will do a new review when i get a cherry red cst24t. ruclips.net/video/xOs83975FyY/видео.html bugera v22 review comes soon. thx again!
The biggest reasons they are cheap is because they cut corners and the quality control is spotty at best. Getting a good guitar from them is a crap shoot. Also being shipped to the U.S. means it travels across the Atlantic to get to you and shipping damage occurs frequently as they are not packaged very well (that's on you Thomann!). Returning a guitar is a pain in the ass and can be expensive as well. In my humble opinion buying a used PRS SE is a much safer bet, about the same cost, and resale value will be much better. Do your research first and good luck if you order one!
I think that HB are Selling their guitars so cheap is to get the name out there, they are already starting to come out with higher priced guitars, I could realistically see a $1,000.00 in the future, and it will be worth every cent
+Rafael Gutierrez no i don't know that. i got the feeling they take ideas we post for example in tbe facebook group. i mentioned i want a blue cst24 for example and now its announced for may.
There's always the 12 string RB-612 CS or the 6 string version. The 12 string is very similar in looks to a Rickenbacker 620, so as someone who likes playing Tom Petty, Byrds, Beatles, etc songs occasionally, I wanted a reasonably priced electric 12 string so I just bought 1 of these myself although it did have some quality issues when I received it and I need to send it back for replacing, which to be fair, Thomann are dealing with professionally.....it's still a hassle though because by the time it takes the guitar to get from England back to Germany and for the replacement to arrive from Thomann it's going to have taken another 2 weeks until I get to play it, and 1 month since I first ordered it from their website. Judging by all of the good review videos of Harley Bentons I am hopeful of a decent quality replacement. If not, I'll just send it back again and get my money back and ignore the Harley Benton videos in future.
The problem I constantly have with HB gear is the lack of consistency in their quality. You can order one of their cheaper basses and get a pristine albeit chunky (their designs usually have rather sharp corners and edges) guitar which is almost stage-ready. Or you can get an absolute shit model with frets sticking out, etc. Still, 3/4 of my entire gear arsenal is by HB, not counting the pieces I have practically given up on. They're just so affordable.
The wages are going up in the factories and shipping cost are up and banking transfer and escrow charges are rising. As a wholesaler, these and other imports are bought in lots of 100 or more. That is one reason guitars are "cheap". If you want to start and import business of importing guitars and accessories, its a tough business and you should visit China with an export agent that already has contacts at the 5 major guitar builders. Have the agent do the buying process for you. Remember a contract in China is only a "suggestion". Not what westerners think of an Iron Clad contract.
my questions are why are there so many people on RUclips all promoting harly Bentons and why are they all german and alied to thoman . i have seen videos where they compare a 400 euro harly benton to a gibson cs and claim its better . as a company owner i dont believe this crap . you talk about middleman and advertisers but are you not one ?
China Sweatshop.... The only downside to cheap guitars are they might not have been properly cured... Wood shrinks and the frets will pop out and fitted joints will loosen up
mywave inwoods the first vlogs (like this) were made without editing afterwards. thats because the volumes are sometimes not good. hm.. dont know if i youtube got a tool to edit it somehow. will see what i can do. but the newer Vlogs should be okay thanks!
You forgot to add the exploitation of cheap labor in China...where I am sure the workers are paid top dollar and treated as valued employees, and paid a fair livable wage.
I think HB guitars are cheaper because they don't have the same level of quality control. Finish problems and lack of shielding would be just two examples, but also cheaper components where the quality isn't guaranteed. Frets can be a bit lacking. And some of the recent ones have cheap plastic nuts. Too many people reporting these issues for them to be isolated incidents.
Cory your English is getting better,How did they come with the name Harley Benton. I have the honey burst Harley Benton SC-450Plus HB Vintage Series,i have done some changes changed all wiring and pots switch & pickup to tesla shark the slash ones.even though the standard set up was good,It now sounds amazing.
i have read that the employees could decide over the name on a company christmas party....with all the alcohol..they named it harley benton in the end. thats all i know about. :D Thanks...those vlogs and answering comments etc is helping my english a lot. Still a lot to learn. Those Sc450plus are killer!!
what is a good amp for someone who just wants to play pop of the last 10 or 15 years no bells and whistles just good tone metal and punk are not appropriate for someone my age 68?
HB aren't cheap, they are fair, Fender, Gibson etc etc are the ones that are stupid overpriced, how does a guitar cost more than a car? A wooden shell with 10 electronic pieces, some paint\stain and a clear coat, costing more than a full 1000kg car with aluminium, iron, copper, tones of components, a engine, and tones of pieces, it's impossible meaning it's only overpriced stuff, having a squier or a fender is almost the same, having a epiphone is the same as a gibson, i see small pieces of plastic costing more that 20€ for being gibson or fender or another brand, it's just like apple vs android
It’s not that HBs are so cheap It’s that ALL the others: Gibson Fender PRS Ibanez Dean Are WAY OVER PRICED BY 1000% at least . Enough with the raping and pillaging customers with that over priced rubbish.
WOOLgum they don't go for 100% profit a la Gibson etc. The telecaster I bought, ( OK. As a laugh) was so good, it proved something I'd thought for years, played through a tube amp, took me back years.
Alistair Ewen well, that’s true of course. They don’t have the name. But there is a big difference between high end and low end. Even though a low end can feel and sound nice etc. Gibson today is crap though, my Chinese Epiphone SG is a keeper while I sold my Gibson Standard SG 2017 after two months. LTd Viper is much much better SG! And that’s Korean.
There is no way a Harley Benton is anywhere near the quality of a PRS especially the US made core models. Each individual component on a PRS has a musical quality about it.
Nicholas Sanchez same quality? no one said that, Nicholas. for 3500 dollars it should be 15 times better but it's not nearly close 2 times in sound or feel. lookwise sure. let's just say i sold happily my USA PRS and my custom shop Deans because they were nice lookers but feelwise not better then this 199euro guitar
musical quality? yeahzthe Harley benton got musical quality too, everywhere. mahagony body, maple top, tremolo designed to make no spring noise (btw the PRS ones make spring noise.. not very musical noise). the electronics work... bone nut on most harley bentons. what more musical can it gets. don't get me wrong. i bought an american PRS not just for fun.. i was convinced to get one of the best instruments out there.. i saw all videos with paul.. how he knocks against neck woods and talks about tone quality etc. but honestly, a cheap piece of mahagony as long as its dry makes the same 'knock' sound. I'm not here to convince anyone, i expected shitty quality with my first HB and became good stuff. just want to share this informations and get rid of some of the misinformations people spread
You wouldn't be earning what you are now if it weren't for inflation, you stupid fuck. You know what your pay raise is to the rest of us? INFLATION. If you're truly opposed to inflation, you will reject all pay raises from here on out. Also, if you owe any debts, your payments must adjust for inflation.
+The Dude no, absolutely not. i had both. i had 18 ibanez guitars and now over 20 harley bentons. did you tried both? or are you just an ibanez fanboy like i was when i was a 14 year old kid who doesn't know anything about guitars?
The Dude my first ibanez was awful. £200 gio - you can't even tap with it because the pickups are so weak. Much rather buy 2 inexpensive Harley bentons than that mess.
all good info.....you've go to improve your playing. Come On you are presenting your self to the world. Language you are getting better by the day. Whole world sees it
hahaha.. na was denkste was meine muddasprache ist. gerade in diesen alten Videos ist meine Aussprache ganz schlimm.. guck dir mal die neuesten an.. da wird es etwas besser😊 hab auch einen deutschen Kanal. Corymura german
I find this video informative and all, but please just use jumpcuts to bring over your point, or use a script. This video is way too long for just explaining why Harley Bentons are so cheap. Your English isn't all that great so scripts could really help you get the point across quicker Not trying to be a dick, just giving criticism
Agree, almost. Your English is fine Corey. But a constructive criticsm. You present a likeable persona and interesting topics with wanted minutae, but they would benefit from scripting, and need to be edited. Far too much waffle, inviting me and I am sure others, to leave and look elsewhere for the info sought.
johnnie cameron meh depends on the model. I got mine now ( Vintage brand) a week ago and the fretwork is very good and it plays well. I agree expensive guitars are a real though, totally save up for one of those but I wasnt willing to pull the trigger on my first electric guitar to try out after playing acoustic for a long time
If you want to plug H, Benton that's fine...it's up to you but the comparisons you're making are enough to make a cat laugh even my 15 year old son knows more about the subject matter you're addressing than you do.
It is actually not about why HB guitars are so cheap. We really should be asking why branded guitars are so overpriced? Since HB and other cheaper brands can make good guitars with this price and quality, why can fender or gibson or other big brands do the same?
Obviously because all those big companies have other standing costs to perform.
The bloke explained all of that in his video! Fender have to pay the factory that makes the guitar, they have to pay the advertisers, they have to pay the distributor, they have to pay their artist endorsers, and they have to pay the shop keeper. Harley Benton simply have to pay the factory. Their costs are a 5th of Fender, hence the guitar is five times cheaper. The only way for Fender to compete HB would be for Fender to sack all of its artist endorsers, advertisers, and to sell their guitars only from their own shop.
Gibson and Fender are made in the US. Harley Benton are made in China. The manpower price is not the same.
It's Vietnam
It's all bullshit. It's just a brand and a fucking myth! Do you think Gibson or Fender (Japans strats, ORIGINALLY Fender (no squire), even two times better than US builds, no joke i got one). would let produce in their countries? I wouldn't wonder if the bodies of some types of different brands were even made in the same factory! (Not all for sure, depends on the type). Ok, distributioncosts.. but hey, really? And even THAT doesn't explain that difference of 3600 bucks for a nearly assimilable guitar in finish, woodmaterial and layout, disregarding hardware and picks!
For the low price there is also the fact that stocking and transportation virtually doesn't cost them anything since they already have it figured out and make money with it. Furthermore, they straight copy existing models, maybe even in the factories that makes the original models, so almost no research and developpement cost.
The low prices with good quality also retains customers, whom will be more likely to buy another HB or a pricier concurrent model with wich they can make more money.
Adding to what you already said it adds up really quickly. Win-win situation !
You really made me want to try some of their models, I think I'll order one in the near future :)
Were u just jamming at 3:40? because that part remembers some sort of buckethead song to me
just found your chanel been watching all the old episodes they r great . I got turned on to the harley benton from Nick in the states . I just can't believe the bang for the buck with these guitars. I have two now and am planning on at least two more after the holidays but let's face it might as well get 3 and save on shipping. keep rockin my man . cheers from Boston
I've got a Harley Benton HBL400 Les Paul guitar (Left handed) completely modified, EMG active pickups, schaller black bridge with graph tech saddles and planet waves lock & trim tuming machineheads for 10 years and i love it!! Also have the Harley Benton EX-76 (Lefty as well), which i recently equipped with dimarzio Evolution pickups (I wanted to have coil splits in it for a wider array of sounds), but the one that is my favourite is the L-450Plus cherry sunburst (also left handed)!! It really sounds great!! Just had to replace the tuners and i also opted to replace its pots for CTS pots, but other than that it's pretty much full stock!! Reminded me that sweet 90's sound i love for heavy metal!! ;) Nice guitars, man!! Would most definately buy the CST24 for lefty, as well as the R-457, if there were a lefty version!! Really nice cheap guitars!! Strongly recommended!! Keep up the good work!!
Love the video. I do hope my black cherry version that is on it's way will make me happy... I'm kinda scared but excited haha... it's a cst-24t black cherry version with coil tap and rosewood fretboard, and previous owner put on PRS tuning machines and PRS knobs.
yeah, saw it on facebook. you will love it for sure if the pre owner didnt messed something up. thanks for stepping by here :)
Awesome program as always keep it up show must go on
raised = risen :) ehrlich, kein problem...I love your videos...and your english is getting better too.
christmas is raising prices...and some of the models pricing will be going up after christmas.
I just received my Harley Benton CST-24T with P90's. I tried to adjust the tone and the volume went down. After running through all the switch positions several times it started working as a tone again. It's a great guitar otherwise. It is set up really well.
I thought they were made in Vietnam?
Enjoying these vlogs, Cory.
thank you so much!
Another reason for price increases could be currency fluctuations. For instance here in the the UK the value of the pound against the dollar and the Euro has recently fallen.This means that anything we import from the US or Europe is more expensive. A guitar from Thomann which would have been say, £200 6 months ago now costs £260.
kingstumble i agree!! missed that point!
Oppinions on the Roswell vs. Wilkinson pickup guitars? I have 2 HB´s, CST-24 and a DC-Custom, both with wilkinson pups, but still having second thoughts of getting more HB´s with the Roswell ones, since i´v heard mixed reviews and videos about the Roswell pups. Some one who has both could comment!
really dig the roswells. i made a comparison btw on my channel "roswell vs wilkinson" look for cory mura
Thank you Cory, i will check it!
Hey Cory , love the videos ! I know the Harley Benton SC Floyd model is coming out , could we see a video of that in the future ? \M/
yes,sir! it will happen. not in some days but im working my way through all models!
Thanks!
cheap floyd roses suck, even if harley benton make mid quality guitars at a very very very affordable price, that floyd won't be good. Trust me...
As long as the workers aren't being additionally underpaid as a result of the low consumer prices, it's fantastic really, opening up the market for various guitars to poorer people
I think we better put the weight on text in the video for those who do not know English. What do you think about the idea ?
That low price is ruined when you have to pay $75 shipping and they can’t guarantee that you may have to pay more for’vat’ so I’d rather pay the money toward a better guitar than shipping costs otherwise I’d be waiting for delivery this week
That's the same thing with Rondo .... you buy direct from them .... I can get a custom Tele that looks a lot like the George Harrison Tribute for $425 with my logo on the top ...
Brian Donnelly yep, thats true. i just cant check them out. shipping costs are very high if i remember correctly. otherwise i would have already tested out those sick 7 and 8 strings!
I forgot , u r in EU ....
harley benton do have nice 8 string guitars and 7 strings.
Cory, you make some good points here - well done !!! I guess one good reason to buy a guitar through a shop/retail outlet is quality control. A good shop that has an ongoing relationship with its customers will not hand over a guitar with defects. In essence, a guitar store that values its customers and its 'chops' will act as a 'filter' against a poor product.
And I'm not saying that HBs are a 'poor product', either. You get what you pay for, in most cases. (With HBs you don't get a case at all :)) That was a joke!
In all seriousness, the guitars SOUND GREAT !!! The remind me of a B&G Little Sister... and that's a compliment !!!
I really like your reviews... and you play superbly. Greetings, and thanks, from sunny Australia.
@peter mcclelland Don't agree with the local music shop care nonsense. In 2018, IMRE they employ Millennial kidadults with characteristic nacissistic attitude. To add insult to injury, 'customer care' with 'attitude' costs more than I am prepared to pay for lazy 'advice' or lacklustre improvised luthiering skillz I can identify as 'I do better than' after viewing a 10 minute "How to" on You Tube. I buy everything guitar orientated online now, including brand name guitars. That way I know the person setting it up won't be an lazy idiot, and will have sufficient emotional attachment and reason to care.
Thanks Blytonian, interesting response... if a little harsh on the Millenial Kidults :) There are some good ones out there, you know.
And your opinion of Harley Bentons... seems a bit 'hit and miss' to me?
@peter mcclelland HB? I wouldn't be prepared to pay for a new Rickenbacker. I can easily afford a new RB600CS.
I guess the way I see it is that Thomann has batter quality control than the other over seas brands. A lot of the other cheap manufacturers have those guitars made and sent to an American warehouse, where they sit there until you buy one. Sometimes you get lucky and get a good one and sometimes not. Also, so of them sit there for years before they're sold and who knows what the temperature is in there and how much the heat and humidity changes. I see that Thomann sends them directly from their home in Germany direct to your door. But they inspect it and set it up first. I think that's here they come out ahead of the other brands. American made guitars are just too dam expensive (for me) because of the cost of labor, advertising, etc. and I don't see the better quality in them for the price.
Could you tell the weight of the guitar in your videos? I think it would be interesting for the future buyer.
i do in my newer reviews. but they doesnt weight the same. i got 3 sc450 plus which differ in 1 kilo...so
I think we better put the weight on text in the video for those who do not know English. What do you think about the idea ?
I think distribution costs was the words you were looking for, but yep. None of the middle man stuff, & Thomann passes the savings to us; the smart people who know that price, like you said, does NOT equal quality. You were one of the guys whose vids convinced me to try Harley Bentons, & I got hooked! Bought 11(3 for gifts) so far, & have my eye on at least 3 more! Oh, and DEFTONES ROCK!
Squazzoo68 yep, thats what i was searching for. i got a good friend who works for a distributor and telling me why they love selling PRS everywhere. because PRS gives them the possibility to earn much more as if they were selling an ibanez for the same price. so the customer pays 500euro and more just to the distributor sometimes. crazy imo.
DEFTONES!!
:-D
Good job on your Harley Benton guitar reviews ,,,how about doing one on their 12 string electrics,
Honestly I am always prudent when buying and white brands such as HB. Have you ever been to Thomann headquarters? It is a money churning machine. Also are their models really originals or just ripoff of main brands? No r&d can actually save you a lot of money.
Does the Shipping Fee for the items depends on the number of products you bought or the value of the product you bought?
+Shred Master you should ask this in my group. link should be in the description.
no, that's not a HB! HB would be the hollow body version. it's just a CST-24T :-)
joewebrocks dammit... i know, it was just accidental :-D👍
Hey, man! You are making great reviews. Are you planning on making one for Harley Benton HB-35 (ES-335 copy)? I'd love to hear your opinion before ordering it myself.
Simon Beckett yes i will.. but not very soon.
i have never heard anything bad about it, so if you dont want to wait you should order it.
Thanks, I'll give it a try then. For such a price it's a steal anyway.
Simon Beckett im sure you will like it. I ordered all my HB blind too and was 90% satisfied. sometimes there are dirty frets but most of the time thats it
I'd like to get one of those. How would I get one in the U.S.?
Joshua Taylor go on thomann website and order to nbn the u.s i think is about $40 shipping. $80 for me to australia
the cad-robots& the modern machienes works so good-with digital designprogramms,
the materialscan cut thinner& finer ,this makes the quality higer-the endcontrol& setting
is important- this makes a cheeper guitar with good quality as high Brand-guit !!
the manpower is the cheeper part in this process-fit the parts together- this goes very
quick-with fine toleranced parts-when the robots works well; plecmachines with laser
hey, we live in modern Age/Time!!! last week i get a H.B-SC-Custom Lemmon Flame
My 2nd new Guit at the last 30jears & this Bluesy-rock machine-works wery welly!!
Looks so Great ! its perfect made in all details,i think i want the black sc with active
picups too! to play heavy, modern stuff!! the pricy/quality is amazing!
Tune down- djent in--Rock on !!!!
Hi Cory, love your videos! Could you do a review of the Bugera V22 and HB CST 24 t they sound awesome.
Arlo Guitars thanks man! i did a review of the cst24 t, its just one of my older reviews. maybe i will do a new review when i get a cherry red cst24t.
ruclips.net/video/xOs83975FyY/видео.html
bugera v22 review comes soon.
thx again!
Cory Mura great I'm looking forward to it!
The biggest reasons they are cheap is because they cut corners and the quality control is spotty at best. Getting a good guitar from them is a crap shoot. Also being shipped to the U.S. means it travels across the Atlantic to get to you and shipping damage occurs frequently as they are not packaged very well (that's on you Thomann!). Returning a guitar is a pain in the ass and can be expensive as well. In my humble opinion buying a used PRS SE is a much safer bet, about the same cost, and resale value will be much better. Do your research first and good luck if you order one!
I think that HB are Selling their guitars so cheap is to get the name out there, they are already starting to come out with higher priced guitars, I could realistically see a $1,000.00 in the future, and it will be worth every cent
that guitar is beautiful. it's like a piece of art :)
Do you know if Harley Benton takes design ideas? I'd love them to recreate a Ric 650.
Amazing Deftones flag too -\m/
+Rafael Gutierrez no i don't know that. i got the feeling they take ideas we post for example in tbe facebook group. i mentioned i want a blue cst24 for example and now its announced for may.
Cory Mura Even if I am not a fan of Facebook, I'll definitely look into it :)
Rafael do it, i have the same need, its a shame they dont make Ric replicas anymore ... :(
There's always the 12 string RB-612 CS or the 6 string version. The 12 string is very similar in looks to a Rickenbacker 620, so as someone who likes playing Tom Petty, Byrds, Beatles, etc songs occasionally, I wanted a reasonably priced electric 12 string so I just bought 1 of these myself although it did have some quality issues when I received it and I need to send it back for replacing, which to be fair, Thomann are dealing with professionally.....it's still a hassle though because by the time it takes the guitar to get from England back to Germany and for the replacement to arrive from Thomann it's going to have taken another 2 weeks until I get to play it, and 1 month since I first ordered it from their website. Judging by all of the good review videos of Harley Bentons I am hopeful of a decent quality replacement. If not, I'll just send it back again and get my money back and ignore the Harley Benton videos in future.
I really want a Les Paul or SG Jr. copy.
Gio by ibanez and harley benton. Cheap price ,good guitars.
Awesome Video!!
This guy can be so funny at times
The problem I constantly have with HB gear is the lack of consistency in their quality. You can order one of their cheaper basses and get a pristine albeit chunky (their designs usually have rather sharp corners and edges) guitar which is almost stage-ready. Or you can get an absolute shit model with frets sticking out, etc.
Still, 3/4 of my entire gear arsenal is by HB, not counting the pieces I have practically given up on. They're just so affordable.
i agree! they are working to get more consistency though.
Bugera sound great Cory
Ginger Lefty Gear Reviews thank you! yeah, its an awesome amp.
get your Harley Benton:
www.thomann.de/de/index.html?offid=1&affid=264
Prices have risen.
The wages are going up in the factories and shipping cost are up and banking transfer and escrow charges are rising. As a wholesaler, these and other imports are bought in lots of 100 or more. That is one reason guitars are "cheap". If you want to start and import business of importing guitars and accessories, its a tough business and you should visit China with an export agent that already has contacts at the 5 major guitar builders. Have the agent do the buying process for you. Remember a contract in China is only a "suggestion". Not what westerners think of an Iron Clad contract.
my questions are why are there so many people on RUclips all promoting harly Bentons and why are they all german and alied to thoman . i have seen videos where they compare a 400 euro harly benton to a gibson cs and claim its better . as a company owner i dont believe this crap . you talk about middleman and advertisers but are you not one ?
Bugera V22. A fantastic amp!
LRH Austria i can fully agree, friend!
China Sweatshop.... The only downside to cheap guitars are they might not have been properly cured... Wood shrinks and the frets will pop out and fitted joints will loosen up
You and the guitarneard talk just alike!
coey oyur volume is too low, please can you edit your video so we can listen to it better? thanks
mywave inwoods the first vlogs (like this) were made without editing afterwards. thats because the volumes are sometimes not good. hm.. dont know if i youtube got a tool to edit it somehow. will see what i can do. but the newer Vlogs should be okay
thanks!
thanks
So Harley Benton is Aldi!
You forgot to add the exploitation of cheap labor in China...where I am sure the workers are paid top dollar and treated as valued employees, and paid a fair livable wage.
Not all their guitars are made in China
I think HB guitars are cheaper because they don't have the same level of quality control. Finish problems and lack of shielding would be just two examples, but also cheaper components where the quality isn't guaranteed. Frets can be a bit lacking. And some of the recent ones have cheap plastic nuts. Too many people reporting these issues for them to be isolated incidents.
Cory your English is getting better,How did they come with the name Harley Benton. I have the honey burst Harley Benton SC-450Plus HB Vintage Series,i have done some changes changed all wiring and pots switch & pickup to tesla shark the slash ones.even though the standard set up was good,It now sounds amazing.
i have read that the employees could decide over the name on a company christmas party....with all the alcohol..they named it harley benton in the end. thats all i know about. :D
Thanks...those vlogs and answering comments etc is helping my english a lot. Still a lot to learn.
Those Sc450plus are killer!!
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what is a good amp for someone who just wants to play pop of the last 10 or 15 years no bells and whistles just good tone metal and punk are not appropriate for someone my age 68?
HB aren't cheap, they are fair, Fender, Gibson etc etc are the ones that are stupid overpriced, how does a guitar cost more than a car? A wooden shell with 10 electronic pieces, some paint\stain and a clear coat, costing more than a full 1000kg car with aluminium, iron, copper, tones of components, a engine, and tones of pieces, it's impossible meaning it's only overpriced stuff, having a squier or a fender is almost the same, having a epiphone is the same as a gibson, i see small pieces of plastic costing more that 20€ for being gibson or fender or another brand, it's just like apple vs android
they're affordable because all the other brands are over priced
Yea, everybody should work for two cents an hour so your dumb ass can buy a guitar for $40.
@@profd65 Except they get paid the same for making guitars for bigger brands.
Look T AMMOON,IRWIN,DIY KITS ,ALL THE SAME
Bro get a bugera 333xl infinium ....will melt your ears!
WATCHED IT
It’s not that HBs are so cheap
It’s that ALL the others:
Gibson
Fender
PRS
Ibanez
Dean
Are WAY OVER PRICED
BY 1000% at least .
Enough with the raping and pillaging customers with that over priced rubbish.
Deftones!!!!!!!!!
I haven’t watched the video yet but the answer is (SPOILER) because they are made out of cheap material in a cheap factory. Pretty logical huh?! :)
WOOLgum not true.
Alistair Ewen so where do you reckon they do the savings?
WOOLgum they don't go for 100% profit a la Gibson etc. The telecaster I bought, ( OK. As a laugh) was so good, it proved something I'd thought for years, played through a tube amp, took me back years.
Alistair Ewen well, that’s true of course. They don’t have the name. But there is a big difference between high end and low end. Even though a low end can feel and sound nice etc. Gibson today is crap though, my Chinese Epiphone SG is a keeper while I sold my Gibson Standard SG 2017 after two months. LTd Viper is much much better SG! And that’s Korean.
Alistair Ewen btw what tele did you get? I want to check it out. :)
He sounds like he’s struggling to talk lol
i was... i still am! hahahaha
There is no way a Harley Benton is anywhere near the quality of a PRS especially the US made core models. Each individual component on a PRS has a musical quality about it.
Nicholas Sanchez same quality? no one said that, Nicholas. for 3500 dollars it should be 15 times better but it's not nearly close 2 times in sound or feel. lookwise sure.
let's just say i sold happily my USA PRS and my custom shop Deans because they were nice lookers but feelwise not better then this 199euro guitar
musical quality? yeahzthe Harley benton got musical quality too, everywhere. mahagony body, maple top, tremolo designed to make no spring noise (btw the PRS ones make spring noise.. not very musical noise). the electronics work... bone nut on most harley bentons. what more musical can it gets.
don't get me wrong. i bought an american PRS not just for fun.. i was convinced to get one of the best instruments out there.. i saw all videos with paul.. how he knocks against neck woods and talks about tone quality etc. but honestly, a cheap piece of mahagony as long as its dry makes the same 'knock' sound.
I'm not here to convince anyone, i expected shitty quality with my first HB and became good stuff. just want to share this informations and get rid of some of the misinformations people spread
Because of the wood quality...
Because China hasn't had 100 years of monetary inflation. Yet.
You wouldn't be earning what you are now if it weren't for inflation, you stupid fuck. You know what your pay raise is to the rest of us? INFLATION. If you're truly opposed to inflation, you will reject all pay raises from here on out. Also, if you owe any debts, your payments must adjust for inflation.
A 275€ Ibanez GRG170DX kills any Harley benton.
+The Dude no, absolutely not. i had both. i had 18 ibanez guitars and now over 20 harley bentons. did you tried both? or are you just an ibanez fanboy like i was when i was a 14 year old kid who doesn't know anything about guitars?
The Dude my first ibanez was awful. £200 gio - you can't even tap with it because the pickups are so weak. Much rather buy 2 inexpensive Harley bentons than that mess.
Ibanez guitars are ugly as fuck. It's emo 13 year old level of ugly.
Tone of Ibanez GRG170dx sucks..........
all good info.....you've go to improve your playing. Come On you are presenting your self to the world. Language you are getting better by the day. Whole world sees it
"why are harley bentons so cheap" is in the title..not "look how cool i can play"
*YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE ANY VIDEOS LOL*
Answer - Because they are made in China 😉
was ist den deine nationalität ? english ist ja wohl kaum deine muttersprache mein english tönt etwa genau so :) gute sache deine videos
hahaha.. na was denkste was meine muddasprache ist. gerade in diesen alten Videos ist meine Aussprache ganz schlimm.. guck dir mal die neuesten an.. da wird es etwas besser😊
hab auch einen deutschen Kanal.
Corymura german
Horrible audio, can't hear a thing.
+Jarod Fleming yeah, old video. beginner mistakes. sorry
Its ok cory...... u at least tried but that fool only know how to pull ones leg......
I think he must be deaf......
I find this video informative and all, but please just use jumpcuts to bring over your point, or use a script. This video is way too long for just explaining why Harley Bentons are so cheap. Your English isn't all that great so scripts could really help you get the point across quicker
Not trying to be a dick, just giving criticism
I agree. I like to watch these videos but they could use some snappy editing. It would makes them more enjoyable to watch!
Agree, almost. Your English is fine Corey. But a constructive criticsm. You present a likeable persona and interesting topics with wanted minutae, but they would benefit from scripting, and need to be edited. Far too much waffle, inviting me and I am sure others, to leave and look elsewhere for the info sought.
Save your money and buy something better ,,I got a cheap China bass it sucks ,ALL THE CHINA GUITARS WITH DIFFERENT NAMES ARE THE SAME JUNK
johnnie cameron meh depends on the model. I got mine now ( Vintage brand) a week ago and the fretwork is very good and it plays well. I agree expensive guitars are a real though, totally save up for one of those but I wasnt willing to pull the trigger on my first electric guitar to try out after playing acoustic for a long time
If you want to plug H, Benton that's fine...it's up to you but the comparisons you're making are enough to make a cat laugh even my 15 year old son knows more about the subject matter you're addressing than you do.
+The Dude No. :-)
sounds like to me the Dude your just another one of them youtube experts and outside of that you're pretty much a nothing so who is laughing???
This dude is actually RUDE......