I think 2022 is firmly a win for Royal Enfield for this market sector of bike. BSA will always be seen as a runner up now. It's already June so they might as well regroup and come back in 2023 early with a strong image and maybe their predicted electric bike in the pack too. As for 2022, sadly I think they've blown it. I'm going for a Royal Enfield.
Your assessment is spot on. I waited eagerly for the launch. Spoke to many dealers, who also had no information. Therefore I am taking delivery of a new Royal Enfield. This Saturday. BSA have blown 2022.
Right on! I waited and waited, but I am just fed up with the BSA misinformation. Royal Enfield has pretty much mastered the Parallel twin at a reasonable price. Sorry BSA, but your ship has sailed.........
Well done! Can not go wrong. Bought mine in 2021 and here - down under RE 2022 plated bikes are $1000 plus more expensive. If the Gold star is close to RE price I will buy one! Love my bullet 500 classic - single power is more fun to ride than twin, but the GT is a keeper so I guess I’m hoping for a threesome love affair🤔
Another good watch 🙏 knowing what goes into developing a motorcycle, I’d rather see BSA do it right the first time round even if it means a 2023 release it would be so easy for them to get this wrong and that’s damaged to a brand that’s so hard to come back from just look at old Norton and how hard new Norton is having to work to repair that reputation and brand credibility, so I say take as much time as is needed BSA and do it right the first time 🙏🏍🇬🇧🏍
Gave up on waiting for BSA and bought instead a Royal Enfield 350 Classic - what a super bike at a great price. Maybe BSA will be a stablemate in 2023.
Personally I think there better of launching in 2023! I’d rather see them get it right the first time otherwise it could be plagued with problems for many years(history repeating itself a bit!) Your comments are spot on when it comes to the pricing also let’s face it Royal Enfield are producing some bloody excellent bikes at the moment there new Classic 350 is superb as my pal has one & it’s terrific!
Very interesting thanks matey. BSA Missing the March/April window in the UK is a real shame but there must be some serious logistics and legals to sort out even just with procuring dealers. I for one hope the make a success of the revival at some point. Be great to see a full and diverse line up at some point with little bantams and such.
It is just as you said, was looking forward to seeing this and it was a real option for me. But with it being a no show, I decided instead to pick up the Royal Enfield GT650 Continental.
BSA have missed this year. No dealers, no bike. no road test reports, no news from them, and we don't know what the bike will look like. The bike at the NEC was a bad lash up, the more you look at it the worse it looked. I am happy with my Interceptor and have just ordered the new Classic 350.
I’m still interested in this bike. I’ve bought new bikes in the past that have been rushed to the market and paid the price. Yes they may miss the early season window but producing something that is not 100% without a full back up network would be commercial suicide.
Great video production. Well done. Good questions. I live in Canada with a riding season much shorter than In the UK. BSA had, at best, a shaky reputation when I was a teen and looking to buy and dreaming of life with only 1 motorcycle. I knew not one person with multiple bikes. I looked at BSA & Triumph in 1968. Both dealerships were 300 miles from my home. Under EVERY new bike on the Show Room floor was a metal cookie pan containing various sized oil slicks. Each bike was an Exon Valdez oil spill tragedy waiting and promising to happen. They looked amazing but Quality was not a word anyone, even sales people used. Just a decade before that, everything from the land of the rising sun was called Japanese Junk! My elder brother bought a Bridgestone 175 twin and I bought a Kawasaki 350 Avenger. Both were 2 stokes so they burned oil but they did not leak any. Fast forward to today. I am 70 years old. BSA and Triumph have no such legacy with 99% of new buyers here. It has been the amazing rebirth of Triumph and the amazing legacy of Royal Enfield that have set the stage for any rebirth potential for BSA here. But the Norton story fails to build confidence in a “ British Brand” alone. It will take the bikes and their own performance that will win the day. To get the price down, they will need the volumes like the Indian market (or some other Asian market) can provide or they will need to match quality and magic of Triumph. Only Suzuki has dared to build a 650 single so Mahindra has chosen well a bike that just might give them a way into the retro market with no direct competitor. It will be their frame and suspension design that will determine the feel of the bike, and then the engine and brakes abilities yo stop and go that will add to the selling formula. That is a lot to get right. It will take time. Better to delay the launch. RE did with the Interceptor. Kawasaki did with the W650 and then the W800’s and Triumph has more models of Bonneville that proves you do not need pin point targeting when a shot gun can work to hit the market sweet spot. I have a Royal Enfield 500 Single. I bought it new at the end of the 2019 model year. I could have had an Interceptor for only 20% more. A new bike could be BSA. How it feels and sounds will matter most for me. Back to your video. Despite how some comment about how you “ hit the mail on the head”, do not do a channel switch to carpentry. Motorcycling needs you more. Thanks.
I live in Texas where we can almost ride year round. Delays work for me because I might get a great deal on a new BSA if sales are slow because everyone else's riding season might be over.
Hi all, I live in Australia and I did write on one of the other motorcycle forums that perhaps the new BSA Gold Star may not even come to Australia I don’t believe there are any BSA dealers or even a BSA network here in Australia Global supply chains problems are effecting all industries currently The BSA Gold Star 650 is one of the bikes that is potentially on “my next purchase list” If the BSA Gold Star 650 does eventually come to Australia we may not see it until the end of 2022? I also agree that BSA has been very light on for any updates!
Just seen this video at the end of September. Still no word. Will it ever happen? Apparently it's going to be at the NEC show. The staff there are going to need balls of steel to handle the single repeated question they'll be asked over and over. 😟
@@WildlifeMoto Update. In case you hadn't seen, they're saying the first shipment of dealer bikes is on its way. No mention of customer machines, but it's progress.
My Dad had BSAs before I was born and when I was young (Thunderbolt, Lightning and Rocket III). Based on that and the initial look of the Gold Star, I am very interested in buying but think I will wait until 2023 to see how the first year (if we’re lucky) of production has gone. If all appears well and reviews back it up, pretty hopeful to have one in my garage next year! Do love the REs btw, but the family history potentially wins it for me.
If it's any help, my local Tesco supermarket had official BSA T-shirts on sale last year. I wonder if they'd been ordered for a model launch, and were being disposed of as the launch was so behind schedule.
I'm still torn, I only just started looking at bikes again, and only found out last night about the new bsa, I've been looking at the interceptor and moto guzzi, but the bsa might be the one, although I don't like to buy the first year of production of any bike, also, will I be able to live with the power when I'm used to big aprilia and ktm power, I cant decide but I'm leaning toward the enfield for the looks, the sound and the reliability, plus the option of an 865 big bore kit and cam.
They've missed the spring bike buying boat. I fancied one but it's April and so my cash is already in Royal Enfield's greasy palm for a new Classic 350. Full dealer network and getting excellent reviews. I wish BSA well but they need to improve communication - half the problem for me was the lack of information, otherwise I might have held off buying the RE.
I pick up a new RE Interceptor Mark 2 on Monday. I have a few bikes and am having to sell one of them to facilitate the new Mk2. However, to answer the main question, I am still very much hanging out for the new BSA... a chrome version of it of course. It will most likely mean selling another bike in order to obtain said BSA but this is exactly the sort of bike I want to own and ride. I'm in Brisbane Australia so no issues with only riding in a 'warm' season! :D I can wait. The main issue for us is are they going to sell the bike here at all! I am sure there would be a big market for it... but no word yet on whether or not we get this bike in Aus.
I started riding on a 1972 BSA Thunderbolt and was really excited about these. I have several bikes and will reserve my judgment until I see them in person. When that happens maybe I’ll buy one. I’d prefer a retro modern Lighting or Rocket 3.
When I rode the Interceptor 650 it reminded me of a 1971 BSA Lightning, but without the vibration and horrible 'comical ub' brakes. Other bonuses: a six-speed gearbox, electric start and nicer centre-stand etc.
I bought my first bike, a 1971 BSA Victor 500 B-50T, in 1973 and I still have it. I would love to park a 2022 BSA Gold Star 650 next to it! I think it would be very reasonable for BSA to leak information such as the neighborhood of the price (which should be the same as the RE Interceptor 650), what's happening so far as the dealer network is concerned, and some real world previews (similar to reviews but with the understanding that these are pre-release impressions).
I’m interested but definitely will wait I’ve got a great fleet of bikes as it is and want to see the spike before I decide on an INT 650 royal Enfield or the BSA. In the meantime my triumph scrambler is an awful lot of fun in a similar space.
As far as a 650 thumper goes I’m starting to turn my attention to a Mash XRide or even the smaller engined Caballero, I will have to take a great leap of faith though, any advice would be welcomed. Cheers.
Anyone recommend which show is worth the trip from Europe - Eicma or Motorcycle live ? In terms of venue size, number of bikes on display, accessibility to the bikes etc. Thanks 👍🏻
I'll probably end up with a Royal Enfield 350 Classic chrome since the BSA isn't available and the lengthy silence might mean it's better to see how things pan out a while after the release. The RE Classic chrome isn't available in the US yet either but it is in the UK and so far people have only good things to say. The BSA 650 thumper has a lot more power at nearly the same weight as the RE 350 and it all seems groovy but can't wait to see how pleasant the engine, clutch, shifting and suspension et al really turn out to be.
I want a test ride first before making my mind up but definitely will hang out for a more powerful version. Just hope the engine has plenty of character
You in the UK have a LONG riding season compared to our season in central Canada. I do not expect to see the new BSA on our shores before the 2023 season. That will give you enough time to work out the worst bugs for us! Thank you. I have a RE Classic 500 that I purchased at the end of 2019 riding season just after the Interceptor arrived here but I bought the Thumper I wanted for years. If the bike proves well made, well priced in Interceptor territory and pretty much glitch free, the biggest obstacle to the BSA will be how it looks and feels. Getting to test ride a new bike here is pretty rare but beyond that, the Mother of all Radiators appears to look more like something off a Mac Truck. I hope they design something better than that. It seems more like an afterthought than a design triumph like the bike concept is. The designers could do better. There is no reason that radiators must hang in front of the engine. Come on! The people who thought up using the frame as an oil tank would never accept the monstrosity on this bike. At least put a good star shaped radiator cap on it instead of one off an old Mini!
My local dealer ask about being an agent. They have heard absolutely nothing. I'm out as my friend is also. That's 2 sales from 1 village lost. Treating us like mushrooms makes you wary. After Norton people are more wary.
After many years away from riding bikes in 2022 I made my comeback! Wanted a proper authentic retro modern classic … The RE Interceptor was at the top of my list after doing much research , trips to dealers, test rides ect…. Now I was gonna hold off buying the Interceptor until I could look at the BSA gold star… as soon as I realised that there was going to be a long delay I went straight out and purchased the Interceptor. Now I think BSA have made a mistake not sending out real updates on the delay… supply chain is in a very bad place at the moment - I know as I manage manufacturing for a living . However if the delay was just down to supply chain why not just come out and say that is the case! Everyone else is. So it lead me to believe there is an issue with the design or something, at this point I get a little worried because I get the feeling that they will at some point rush the bike out to not lose the summer riding season… it will be interesting to see how this bikes do when people start buying them. Having said that I hope they do well and end up living up to expectations … expectations that have now been set by Royal Enfield! My Interceptor is nothing short of fantastic and arguably the best value for money bike on the market! This BSA is going to have to be really good to compete in this market space now!
I would be interested to know how it feels on the road? How it performs, mpg, speed, acceleration and handling as it is different being a single cylinder thumper?
I was in the market for one but this lack of being kept informed means I now have no confidence in their ability to produce a reliable bike with good dealer backup. Buying one would be a risk it will probably go wrong and be stuck in a workshop with no spare parts covered in dust in a corner.Just because they are recreating this bike does not mean they need to recreate the bad organisation of the past too.
My son wants to buy one and is prepared to wait for a while depending on the price. I have an enfield interceptor 650 which I love and I tried to pursuade him to buy one and he still might- it depends on BSA.
You’ve hit the nail squarely on the head, there’s a distinct lack of information and that is a shame as this bike could potentially be a huge winner, I think a lot will not want to take the plunge now until they see how others report back on initial ownership reliability and quality etc…. time will tell but they may have missed the boat for this year unless there’s some good incentive for first buyers.
A road test by the bike media would have been very much appreciated - it might be a complete “lemon” for all we know. And what about the price!! Why they created all the initial buzz and got us all excited only to then go completely silent for 4 months with no further info completely baffles me. It doesn’t really inspire confidence that BSA has a grip on things.
I do like the look of the BSA Goldstein 650 but like you say, I’m in the market now. It worries me that it has gone so quiet too. I am test rising an Interceptor at the weekend, which has proved itself. If I like it I’ll have one and BSA will lose a potential customer. Thanks for the info.
It all depends what the engine is like. It seems to be just a dressed up version of the old bmw / Aprilia single so neither new nor with period character
I agree. I bet the motor is a rehashed version of the Rotax/BMW/ Aprilia single. Same capacity 654cc, same power and torque figures. Having the starter motor in front of the cylinder spoils it completely and that fake pushrod tunnel looks ridiculous, as does the fat exhaust. I think BSA made a big mistake. They should have used as their template the BSA Rocket Goldstar 650 twin, a far more desireble bike than a big single which will appeal to a very limited market. Will they be able to bring it to market at a price not much above the RE 650. I don't think so.
I’m still keen to buy the bike regardless of when it’s released, what’s really important to me is if it will be available in Australia, just like there’s been a lack of information on what’s going on with the release date, there’s also nothing about if it’s coming here. I’m prepared to travel to England for a bit of a biking holiday even if I’ve got to stuff it in the back of a van due to the weather, then ship it back to Australia ; )
I registered my interest online and just got some marketing blurb. Like you I have searched the internet for dealers and price but it’s just speculation on 5 to 6k. Another Norton?
They have obviously bitten off more than they can chew. Getting a dealer network across the county could take months on its own , Plus like you say , supply issues to build a load of bikes.. will we actually see it this year ?
Go ahead and buy a vintage bsaa 441 shooting star. It will be much cheaper than that piece of crap so-called BS a Jawa. The old British manufactured BSA we're great motorcycles. They looked good they performed well and unlike the Japanese motorcycles they had a frame that would make the motorcycle run like it was on Rails. Last year I picked up a 1964 BSA 250 Starfire for $500 delivered to my house. All original everything work 6,000 MI the previous owner got it from an estate sale. So if you look around you can pick up the real thing so not a Goldstar 4 cheaper than the phony Indian built Jawa / BSA.
@@frankmarkovcijr5459 yes I had the BSA 250 Barracuda. And Triumph 650 Thunderbird 1965 Lived all my life in UK. Only just come to retire here in Thailand
I waited for this, patiently. Then it got pushed back. So I purchased a Meteor as a stop gap. The problem is I fell in love with the Meteor, big style. Having such fun for a smallish bike, I'm now thinking if the Interceptor is half as good it still wins. I love single cylinder bikes, but the Interceptor is so achievable value wise, with a proven track record. Maybe 2023 is better.
It's a real shame if the BSA doesn't happen soon, I have been waiting for the launch and would wait until May but anything after that date and your riding season is greatly reduced. I live in the highlands of Scotland so every good riding day is precious
I personally will wait . I'm not losing riding time most of us are after the BSA as a second bike or 3rd etc . I want one because I want one . Not a Enfield or something else . I'd rather wait than have them rush it through .
I love thumpers. Currently in the garage live several XT/TT 500's, an FT500, SRX600, and TT600. I also regulary ride a newer DR650. I'll never have an original BSA Goldstar but would be very interested in taking a serious look at this new Goldstar. For me nothing compares to the feel and sound of a large bore single cruising through the foothills. I'm hoping the price does not exceed 6K.
I think the total silence will probably mean you won't be able to take delivery until June / July at the earliest. Like some others have said they shouldn't rush it out if they are having issues right etc it would be more damaging to the bike or brand in the end. Maybe we'll be able to get a test ride before the season is out, but for me the bike would be an addition rather than a replacement so I can wait - impatiently :-)
Until I saw your video, I had no idea this was happening. That is how bad the publicity has been about this. I loved the original Goldstar and I would have been interested but have now almost settled on the Interceptor which is a tried and tested machine, with good reviews.
Hi sir, hope you well, we all watch and love every informative videos you post in India . I need some advice from you. I have seen all the interceptor 650 videos.Please send me link to the LSL handle bar for interceptor. I couldn’t find it online. Kind Regards from India
I gave up waiting myself, I saw this bike at motorcycle live the end of last year, I sat on one, asked loads of questions and like yourself was expecting an early 2022 release. Sadly absolutely nothing since not even a test of a pre-production prototype, no news whatsoever, really disappointed, so they have lost a potential buyer as I am now the very happy owner of the fabulous Benelli 502C. It does make me wonder if it will ever appear, the way it's looking probably not.
I worry that a bike that ends up being rushed onto the market, may arrive with quality control issues. In the early days of the Royal Enfield comeback, they had their problems too - but look at them now! I loved the look of the Gold Star at the show, but I think if there is a need to buy ASAP, the Interceptor would definitely be the one for me. BSA needed to be ready and on the shop floor when they said they would in March. It’s a shame and it may be for reasons outside of their control, but ironically, their announcement of a new bike and subsequent delays, will probably help Royal Enfield sales this year!
Really fancied buying the BSA however I am a little suspicious that there might have been some unforeseen mechanical problems that might have arisen and am now prepared to wait a while and make sure the bike will live up to my expectations and also see what the professional road testers will make of it?
I'm hanging on to decide between the Gold Star or Interceptor. The latter seems awesome from reviews and can only hope the BSA can match it. Really want the Gold Star but didn't like the pipe cover or radiator size. Also heard the quality was down on RE but that may be as it was a pre-production machine. Anyway for others information, I joined their mailing list and this is what they have said (hope this may help some to wait and see): 'We hear you. You want the new Gold Star now. You want to soak up the early riding days of the season on a new chapter in history. And of course, we want that for you too. More than anything. But, just like the ride itself, we want to get geared up for it and do it properly.  The magnitude of what we’re doing - relaunching not just a motorcycle but an entire brand from scratch - is no walk in the park (or ride through the Cotswolds, for that matter). We’ve taken so long in the creation of the new Gold Star, considering every detail at every stage, that we refuse to let ourselves and ultimately you down by hitting the starter button too soon. We’ve been working our socks off getting the bike ready for production and establishing a great dealer network across the UK. And we’re getting close now, with the first bikes expected to arrive into our UK dealer network in May. Stick with us on this final stage of the journey and we promise you a lifetime of incredible memories together.
Bought my Interceptor in November, then the Goldstar was announced & and I though nooooooooooooo. Then I saw it and I thought yuck Hope they're spending some of the extra time doing something about the design of that honking great rad and the hideous downpipes. If it comes out as it was at the show there's no chance I'll have one, if it's much improved I'll get one in the future so the delay doesn't affect me. Price will be interesting, I'm guessing it'll be 1k more than the Enfields Meanwhile, I've commuted on my RE all through the winter & it still looks perfect, now I'm looking forward to those warm, dry days when I can get out and properly stretch it's chain
On Interceptor you have the aftermarket established.Also makes you wonder if that downpipe can be upgraded the way it looked.I guess you'll de cat it anyway & a aftermarket pipe be smaller & look more proportionate.Probably go for a aftermarket aluminum radiator that slots in between rails with a -10° thermostat.Those 2 mods be what you'd what to do to it after run in. More power,cooler radiator & better & slimmer.Be interesting to see final product.
Hi sir, love your videos all the time. Feel like I have an addiction to your channel. Can you make a introduction video about yourself , like what you do for living and what you do in your daily routine life, we all love to know more about you. You are a legend. Kind Regards
I have an interest in the RE 350 Classic, would rather have a 500, available as a Trails bike from RE, so the Gold Star piqued my interest. But I am just looking at vapors currently. neither is available here locally at this posting in late April.
I think price is going to be crucial and needs to be less than the Interceptor. I kinda envisaged this as filling the space between the Meteor/Classic and the Interceptor. Frankly, if it has been a 500 priced at £5000/£5500, I would have been more interested.
Delay is wanting to get it right. If it fails bad reviews it’s done. Tried the pre production interceptors and was mightily impressed. Knew it was a winner within 10 mins. Think the initial production bikes where of a lesser quality but stepped up now. If it’s better in some form than an R.E. And it needs to have an edge not like for like.,people will pay a bit more of a premium for it ? You get what you pay for. The U.K. market is a minnow in comparison to the Asian market short riding season etc. so probably not a major concern for them. I will hang on myself as could be a new gem. Hopefully we will get a first ride soon. I reckon they are still tweaking, can’t get to euro five ? RE had ex triumph in development 😂
What BSA did wrong was to launch the bike as a model at the NEC and then to go very quiet about the actual product... If they had launched it as a "concept" bike and then spent this time teasing the actual bikes it would have made far more sense and kept people excited. What they have done is said "here is the new bike" and then in the months that have followed released nothing relevant. We don't know what the performance is, no idea of a price and don't even know what it sounds like. I haven't seen a single clip of it running apart from what bsa used for the launch video... It's been truly cr*p marketing!
If you’re BSA, you’ve a new bike, need a new dealer network, need a new factory, you’re not looking to sell large quantities this year. 2022 is the year to get ready for 2023. It’s a year of learning. You don’t need to worry about meeting seasonal buying times. Anything in H1 would be fine for them.
All fine, but BSA is a new brand looking to build trust in a highly competitive market. They published a release date and then missed it with very little communication. That’s not a great start.
@@WildlifeMoto totally agree with you. They shouldn’t have set a date, and should be sharing details drip drip drip. It’s an indication that one shouldn’t consider them for a few years until they’ve ironed out problems with both the product and their business.
Whilst it's annoying to have to wait longer for the bike you want. Ie- the BSA, perhaps it's going to arrive soon. Or not. A lot of manufacturers are in the same boat ,(excuse the pun) for example. I have a Honda cb500x ordered and it's now a July delivery date.
It's now the end of May 2022 and these still no update from BSA about the bike or dealers . Also no update from Honda on my 500x. They are all the same . !
They may still use the JAWA Delaerhsip network to sell BSA because they are already selling Yezdi using JAWA dealerships, this might not be big problem, also they already have a new factory running in India
As I am in for becoming a dealer and know who is in the running for UK supplier, having signed a NDA, I cannot say what is happening but watch this space......exciting times ahead.
Frankly, if you can't wait a while longer for this bike, then I question your committment to the brand. The whole point of this re-launch is that it's the revival of another iconic British manufacturer. There are some great bikes out there and you can place an order for one right now and be sure not to miss the 'riding season'. As someone who rides all year round, another few weeks on last years bike isn't such a hardship.
Have had an Interceptor since Nov. '20. Love it, but fancied the GoldStar as another bike as it looks great. It all seemed to go very quiet. Couldn't find anything out about dealers or price....... so bought a 1974 Kawasaki H1 triple stroker for some fun instead. Wouldn't touch the Taiwanese Triumphs. Price. Needs to be in the 6,100 to 6,350ukp I feel.
So you would’nt touch a bike that’s conceived, R and D’ed and designed by a British company that pay UK tax and employ British engineers and designers cos it’s it’s got production facilities in Taiwan? It’s also looking to shift some production back to the UK. As the owner of a UK engineering company I can assure you that the component supply base in the UK is all but dead, to survive and be competitive UK engineering companies have to make real life decisions to carry on. My relatively small £12,500,000 turn over company stuff’s £3,000,000 into the UK tax coffers annually and employs 40 people directly plus many others indirectly, and no I’m not a wealthy man just a grafter. People like you need to get real and understand what a great job Triumph has done, they punch way above their weight and deserve to be recognized for they success story that they are. Off you go old chap and buy another German/Japanese/Chinese bike and explain to your kids why there’s no engineering jobs for them in the UK and why they pay so much personal tax cos there’s no British owned companies putting money into the exchequer!
Well I guess May came and went with no updates 🤔
I think 2022 is firmly a win for Royal Enfield for this market sector of bike. BSA will always be seen as a runner up now. It's already June so they might as well regroup and come back in 2023 early with a strong image and maybe their predicted electric bike in the pack too. As for 2022, sadly I think they've blown it. I'm going for a Royal Enfield.
@@biker_dale RE Continental GT picked up today. I think you’re right.
Your assessment is spot on. I waited eagerly for the launch. Spoke to many dealers, who also had no information. Therefore I am taking delivery of a new Royal Enfield. This Saturday. BSA have blown 2022.
Nice! You'll love the Interceptor.
You will love the RE 650. Fantastic machine
Right on! I waited and waited, but I am just fed up with the BSA misinformation. Royal Enfield has pretty much mastered the Parallel twin at a reasonable price. Sorry BSA, but your ship has sailed.........
Well done! Can not go wrong. Bought mine in 2021 and here - down under RE 2022 plated bikes are $1000 plus more expensive.
If the Gold star is close to RE price I will buy one! Love my bullet 500 classic - single power is more fun to ride than twin, but the GT is a keeper so I guess I’m hoping for a threesome love affair🤔
Dont blame you , shame really the uk could have been a big consumer of this bike .I quite like the Enfield .
Another good watch 🙏 knowing what goes into developing a motorcycle, I’d rather see BSA do it right the first time round even if it means a 2023 release it would be so easy for them to get this wrong and that’s damaged to a brand that’s so hard to come back from just look at old Norton and how hard new Norton is having to work to repair that reputation and brand credibility, so I say take as much time as is needed BSA and do it right the first time 🙏🏍🇬🇧🏍
Gave up on waiting for BSA and bought instead a Royal Enfield 350 Classic - what a super bike at a great price. Maybe BSA will be a stablemate in 2023.
Oh yes, bullet classic is a delightful easy ride and the BSA at 650cc should be about spot on!
i really hope bsa makes a thumper similar to the re classic, a 350 aircooled one.
It would be good to see a full road test to keep us interested and follow with pricing ASAP
Personally I think there better of launching in 2023! I’d rather see them get it right the first time otherwise it could be plagued with problems for many years(history repeating itself a bit!) Your comments are spot on when it comes to the pricing also let’s face it Royal Enfield are producing some bloody excellent bikes at the moment there new Classic 350 is superb as my pal has one & it’s terrific!
Very tempted to get the classic.
Totally agree on the date. Love the classic too.
Very interesting thanks matey. BSA Missing the March/April window in the UK is a real shame but there must be some serious logistics and legals to sort out even just with procuring dealers. I for one hope the make a success of the revival at some point. Be great to see a full and diverse line up at some point with little bantams and such.
It is just as you said, was looking forward to seeing this and it was a real option for me. But with it being a no show, I decided instead to pick up the Royal Enfield GT650 Continental.
Great choice, hope you enjoy it.
Just wanted to take a moment to acknowledge the insanely high level of production value in your videos. It's really impressive!
Thank you sir :)
BSA have missed this year. No dealers, no bike. no road test reports, no news from them, and we don't know what the bike will look like. The bike at the NEC was a bad lash up, the more you look at it the worse it looked. I am happy with my Interceptor and have just ordered the new Classic 350.
My question would be what is somebody willing to pay to move that eyesore of a radiator 😅😅
I’m still interested in this bike. I’ve bought new bikes in the past that have been rushed to the market and paid the price. Yes they may miss the early season window but producing something that is not 100% without a full back up network would be commercial suicide.
If the final on the road price is the same as the RE, I’d still stick with the Interceptor!
With such a new brand next year would be the best time to buy to see what customers are saying after a few thousand miles.
Great video production. Well done. Good questions.
I live in Canada with a riding season much shorter than In the UK. BSA had, at best, a shaky reputation when I was a teen and looking to buy and dreaming of life with only 1 motorcycle. I knew not one person with multiple bikes. I looked at BSA & Triumph in 1968. Both dealerships were 300 miles from my home. Under EVERY new bike on the Show Room floor was a metal cookie pan containing various sized oil slicks. Each bike was an Exon Valdez oil spill tragedy waiting and promising to happen. They looked amazing but Quality was not a word anyone, even sales people used. Just a decade before that, everything from the land of the rising sun was called Japanese Junk! My elder brother bought a Bridgestone 175 twin and I bought a Kawasaki 350 Avenger. Both were 2 stokes so they burned oil but they did not leak any.
Fast forward to today. I am 70 years old. BSA and Triumph have no such legacy with 99% of new buyers here. It has been the amazing rebirth of Triumph and the amazing legacy of Royal Enfield that have set the stage for any rebirth potential for BSA here. But the Norton story fails to build confidence in a “ British Brand” alone. It will take the bikes and their own performance that will win the day. To get the price down, they will need the volumes like the Indian market (or some other Asian market) can provide or they will need to match quality and magic of Triumph. Only Suzuki has dared to build a 650 single so Mahindra has chosen well a bike that just might give them a way into the retro market with no direct competitor. It will be their frame and suspension design that will determine the feel of the bike, and then the engine and brakes abilities yo stop and go that will add to the selling formula. That is a lot to get right. It will take time. Better to delay the launch. RE did with the Interceptor. Kawasaki did with the W650 and then the W800’s and Triumph has more models of Bonneville that proves you do not need pin point targeting when a shot gun can work to hit the market sweet spot.
I have a Royal Enfield 500 Single. I bought it new at the end of the 2019 model year. I could have had an Interceptor for only 20% more. A new bike could be BSA. How it feels and sounds will matter most for me.
Back to your video. Despite how some comment about how you “ hit the mail on the head”, do not do a channel switch to carpentry. Motorcycling needs you more. Thanks.
I live in Texas where we can almost ride year round. Delays work for me because I might get a great deal on a new BSA if sales are slow because everyone else's riding season might be over.
Hi all, I live in Australia and I did write on one of the other motorcycle forums that perhaps the new BSA Gold Star may not even come to Australia
I don’t believe there are any BSA dealers or even a BSA network here in Australia
Global supply chains problems are effecting all industries currently
The BSA Gold Star 650 is one of the bikes that is potentially on “my next purchase list”
If the BSA Gold Star 650 does eventually come to Australia we may not see it until the end of 2022? I also agree that BSA has been very light on for any updates!
This would have to come out at a good saving on the RE Interceptor. The first owners would be taking a huge risk on an as yet unknown machine..
I bought a second hand Triumph Street Twin instead.I was fed up waiting.
Just seen this video at the end of September. Still no word. Will it ever happen? Apparently it's going to be at the NEC show. The staff there are going to need balls of steel to handle the single repeated question they'll be asked over and over. 😟
Joke isn’t it. Worst part is the total lack of communication to potential customers. Pretty poor way to launch a new brand.
@@WildlifeMoto Update. In case you hadn't seen, they're saying the first shipment of dealer bikes is on its way. No mention of customer machines, but it's progress.
My Dad had BSAs before I was born and when I was young (Thunderbolt, Lightning and Rocket III). Based on that and the initial look of the Gold Star, I am very interested in buying but think I will wait until 2023 to see how the first year (if we’re lucky) of production has gone. If all appears well and reviews back it up, pretty hopeful to have one in my garage next year!
Do love the REs btw, but the family history potentially wins it for me.
Not here yet... I guess it started throwing rods or over heating. That or they can't price it below 8,000.
Already gave up on it and bought a new Triumph Speedmaster. Love it, definitely the right decision.
If it's any help, my local Tesco supermarket had official BSA T-shirts on sale last year.
I wonder if they'd been ordered for a model launch, and were being disposed of as the launch was so behind schedule.
Better to have BSA to do the R&D than rush to get it out and have the customer doing the R&D. And give them a bad reputation.
I can wait.
I'm still torn, I only just started looking at bikes again, and only found out last night about the new bsa, I've been looking at the interceptor and moto guzzi, but the bsa might be the one, although I don't like to buy the first year of production of any bike, also, will I be able to live with the power when I'm used to big aprilia and ktm power, I cant decide but I'm leaning toward the enfield for the looks, the sound and the reliability, plus the option of an 865 big bore kit and cam.
They've missed the spring bike buying boat. I fancied one but it's April and so my cash is already in Royal Enfield's greasy palm for a new Classic 350. Full dealer network and getting excellent reviews. I wish BSA well but they need to improve communication - half the problem for me was the lack of information, otherwise I might have held off buying the RE.
I pick up a new RE Interceptor Mark 2 on Monday. I have a few bikes and am having to sell one of them to facilitate the new Mk2. However, to answer the main question, I am still very much hanging out for the new BSA... a chrome version of it of course. It will most likely mean selling another bike in order to obtain said BSA but this is exactly the sort of bike I want to own and ride. I'm in Brisbane Australia so no issues with only riding in a 'warm' season! :D I can wait. The main issue for us is are they going to sell the bike here at all! I am sure there would be a big market for it... but no word yet on whether or not we get this bike in Aus.
I started riding on a 1972 BSA Thunderbolt and was really excited about these. I have several bikes and will reserve my judgment until I see them in person. When that happens maybe I’ll buy one. I’d prefer a retro modern Lighting or Rocket 3.
When I rode the Interceptor 650 it reminded me of a 1971 BSA Lightning, but without the vibration and horrible 'comical ub' brakes. Other bonuses: a six-speed gearbox, electric start and nicer centre-stand etc.
I am looking at a new bike the contenders are Royal Enfield ,BSA,Triumph?
I bought my first bike, a 1971 BSA Victor 500 B-50T, in 1973 and I still have it. I would love to park a 2022 BSA Gold Star 650 next to it!
I think it would be very reasonable for BSA to leak information such as the neighborhood of the price (which should be the same as the RE Interceptor 650), what's happening so far as the dealer network is concerned, and some real world previews (similar to reviews but with the understanding that these are pre-release impressions).
I’m interested but definitely will wait I’ve got a great fleet of bikes as it is and want to see the spike before I decide on an INT 650 royal Enfield or the BSA. In the meantime my triumph scrambler is an awful lot of fun in a similar space.
As far as a 650 thumper goes I’m starting to turn my attention to a Mash XRide or even the smaller engined Caballero, I will have to take a great leap of faith though, any advice would be welcomed. Cheers.
Sounds like some developers I worked with from the subcontinent. “The site is only two weeks away”…for almost a year.
Anyone recommend which show is worth the trip from Europe - Eicma or Motorcycle live ? In terms of venue size, number of bikes on display, accessibility to the bikes etc. Thanks 👍🏻
I'll probably end up with a Royal Enfield 350 Classic chrome since the BSA isn't available and the lengthy silence might mean it's better to see how things pan out a while after the release. The RE Classic chrome isn't available in the US yet either but it is in the UK and so far people have only good things to say. The BSA 650 thumper has a lot more power at nearly the same weight as the RE 350 and it all seems groovy but can't wait to see how pleasant the engine, clutch, shifting and suspension et al really turn out to be.
I want a test ride first before making my mind up but definitely will hang out for a more powerful version.
Just hope the engine has plenty of character
I have already given up on this motorcycle. We'll be lucky to see it by spring of '23.
You in the UK have a LONG riding season compared to our season in central Canada. I do not expect to see the new BSA on our shores before the 2023 season. That will give you enough time to work out the worst bugs for us! Thank you. I have a RE Classic 500 that I purchased at the end of 2019 riding season just after the Interceptor arrived here but I bought the Thumper I wanted for years. If the bike proves well made, well priced in Interceptor territory and pretty much glitch free, the biggest obstacle to the BSA will be how it looks and feels. Getting to test ride a new bike here is pretty rare but beyond that, the Mother of all Radiators appears to look more like something off a Mac Truck. I hope they design something better than that. It seems more like an afterthought than a design triumph like the bike concept is. The designers could do better. There is no reason that radiators must hang in front of the engine. Come on! The people who thought up using the frame as an oil tank would never accept the monstrosity on this bike. At least put a good star shaped radiator cap on it instead of one off an old Mini!
My local dealer ask about being an agent. They have heard absolutely nothing. I'm out as my friend is also. That's 2 sales from 1 village lost. Treating us like mushrooms makes you wary. After Norton people are more wary.
After many years away from riding bikes in 2022 I made my comeback! Wanted a proper authentic retro modern classic … The RE Interceptor was at the top of my list after doing much research , trips to dealers, test rides ect…. Now I was gonna hold off buying the Interceptor until I could look at the BSA gold star… as soon as I realised that there was going to be a long delay I went straight out and purchased the Interceptor. Now I think BSA have made a mistake not sending out real updates on the delay… supply chain is in a very bad place at the moment - I know as I manage manufacturing for a living . However if the delay was just down to supply chain why not just come out and say that is the case! Everyone else is. So it lead me to believe there is an issue with the design or something, at this point I get a little worried because I get the feeling that they will at some point rush the bike out to not lose the summer riding season… it will be interesting to see how this bikes do when people start buying them. Having said that I hope they do well and end up living up to expectations … expectations that have now been set by Royal Enfield! My Interceptor is nothing short of fantastic and arguably the best value for money bike on the market! This BSA is going to have to be really good to compete in this market space now!
Congratulations on the new bike. The RE is much more authentic.
BSA needs to deliver something, the silence is really blowing it.
I would be interested to know how it feels on the road? How it performs, mpg, speed, acceleration and handling as it is different being a single cylinder thumper?
Me too. First reviews are starting to emerge.
I was in the market for one but this lack of being kept informed means I now have no confidence in their ability to produce a reliable bike with good dealer backup. Buying one would be a risk it will probably go wrong and be stuck in a workshop with no spare parts covered in dust in a corner.Just because they are recreating this bike does not mean they need to recreate the bad organisation of the past too.
I agree. This is a very bad start for the brand. Trust is so important, and this is a crowded market. I think this will hurt BSA.
My son wants to buy one and is prepared to wait for a while depending on the price. I have an enfield interceptor 650 which I love and I tried to pursuade him to buy one and he still might- it depends on BSA.
You’ve hit the nail squarely on the head, there’s a distinct lack of information and that is a shame as this bike could potentially be a huge winner, I think a lot will not want to take the plunge now until they see how others report back on initial ownership reliability and quality etc…. time will tell but they may have missed the boat for this year unless there’s some good incentive for first buyers.
A road test by the bike media would have been very much appreciated - it might be a complete “lemon” for all we know. And what about the price!! Why they created all the initial buzz and got us all excited only to then go completely silent for 4 months with no further info completely baffles me. It doesn’t really inspire confidence that BSA has a grip on things.
I do like the look of the BSA Goldstein 650 but like you say, I’m in the market now. It worries me that it has gone so quiet too. I am test rising an Interceptor at the weekend, which has proved itself. If I like it I’ll have one and BSA will lose a potential customer. Thanks for the info.
I own the Interceptor in Sunset Strip and it’s a fantastic machine
a fan of British bikes I’m glad to see BSA come back. I’ll be looking for them to show up in America
what is engine dimension, is it Square bore or Long bore
I want one but is it going to be as good as Royal Enfield
Do you recon the BSA will be available in the USA?
Yes I think so, but probably not this year.
It all depends what the engine is like. It seems to be just a dressed up version of the old bmw / Aprilia single so neither new nor with period character
I agree. I bet the motor is a rehashed version of the Rotax/BMW/ Aprilia single. Same capacity 654cc, same power and torque figures. Having the starter motor in front of the cylinder spoils it completely and that fake pushrod tunnel looks ridiculous, as does the fat exhaust. I think BSA made a big mistake. They should have used as their template the BSA Rocket Goldstar 650 twin, a far more desireble bike than a big single which will appeal to a very limited market. Will they be able to bring it to market at a price not much above the RE 650. I don't think so.
@@johnappel8969 I had one of those 650 Aprilias, and it was a fine machine...happy to cruise at 80 on the motorway and no mechanical issues ever.
I’m still keen to buy the bike regardless of when it’s released, what’s really important to me is if it will be available in Australia, just like there’s been a lack of information on what’s going on with the release date, there’s also nothing about if it’s coming here. I’m prepared to travel to England for a bit of a biking holiday even if I’ve got to stuff it in the back of a van due to the weather, then ship it back to Australia ; )
I registered my interest online and just got some marketing blurb. Like you I have searched the internet for dealers and price but it’s just speculation on 5 to 6k. Another Norton?
Kept hoping at least for a road test review by now . . .
They have obviously bitten off more than they can chew. Getting a dealer network across the county could take months on its own , Plus like you say , supply issues to build a load of bikes.. will we actually see it this year ?
What I cannot understand is why are they not taking refundable deposits.
1973 I rode BSA 441 Shooting Star.
Been waiting along time for this BSA
Go ahead and buy a vintage bsaa 441 shooting star. It will be much cheaper than that piece of crap so-called BS a Jawa. The old British manufactured BSA we're great motorcycles. They looked good they performed well and unlike the Japanese motorcycles they had a frame that would make the motorcycle run like it was on Rails. Last year I picked up a 1964 BSA 250 Starfire for $500 delivered to my house. All original everything work 6,000 MI the previous owner got it from an estate sale. So if you look around you can pick up the real thing so not a Goldstar 4 cheaper than the phony Indian built Jawa / BSA.
@@frankmarkovcijr5459 yes I had the BSA 250 Barracuda. And Triumph 650 Thunderbird 1965
Lived all my life in UK. Only just come to retire here in Thailand
I waited for this, patiently. Then it got pushed back. So I purchased a Meteor as a stop gap. The problem is I fell in love with the Meteor, big style. Having such fun for a smallish bike, I'm now thinking if the Interceptor is half as good it still wins. I love single cylinder bikes, but the Interceptor is so achievable value wise, with a proven track record. Maybe 2023 is better.
It's a real shame if the BSA doesn't happen soon, I have been waiting for the launch and would wait until May but anything after that date and your riding season is greatly reduced. I live in the highlands of Scotland so every good riding day is precious
I personally will wait . I'm not losing riding time most of us are after the BSA as a second bike or 3rd etc . I want one because I want one . Not a Enfield or something else . I'd rather wait than have them rush it through .
I love thumpers. Currently in the garage live several XT/TT 500's, an FT500, SRX600, and TT600. I also regulary ride a newer DR650. I'll never have an original BSA Goldstar but would be very interested in taking a serious look at this new Goldstar. For me nothing compares to the feel and sound of a large bore single cruising through the foothills. I'm hoping the price does not exceed 6K.
I think the total silence will probably mean you won't be able to take delivery until June / July at the earliest. Like some others have said they shouldn't rush it out if they are having issues right etc it would be more damaging to the bike or brand in the end. Maybe we'll be able to get a test ride before the season is out, but for me the bike would be an addition rather than a replacement so I can wait - impatiently :-)
Stuart Garner isnt on the payroll by any chance?
I can wait, I'd like to try one first anyway
I'm saving for one for one in 2023, and as a BSA man, I want one. But it is a tad strange they haven't kept the noise going.
Until I saw your video, I had no idea this was happening. That is how bad the publicity has been about this. I loved the original Goldstar and I would have been interested but have now almost settled on the Interceptor which is a tried and tested machine, with good reviews.
BSA should have put out press bikes already so all the magazines can do test rides, I wonder if the NEC bikes ever had any internals in them ?
Hi sir, hope you well, we all watch and love every informative videos you post in India . I need some advice from you. I have seen all the interceptor 650 videos.Please send me link to the LSL handle bar for interceptor. I couldn’t find it online. Kind Regards from India
I gave up waiting myself, I saw this bike at motorcycle live the end of last year, I sat on one, asked loads of questions and like yourself was expecting an early 2022 release. Sadly absolutely nothing since not even a test of a pre-production prototype, no news whatsoever, really disappointed, so they have lost a potential buyer as I am now the very happy owner of the fabulous Benelli 502C. It does make me wonder if it will ever appear, the way it's looking probably not.
I worry that a bike that ends up being rushed onto the market, may arrive with quality control issues. In the early days of the Royal Enfield comeback, they had their problems too - but look at them now!
I loved the look of the Gold Star at the show, but I think if there is a need to buy ASAP, the Interceptor would definitely be the one for me.
BSA needed to be ready and on the shop floor when they said they would in March. It’s a shame and it may be for reasons outside of their control, but ironically, their announcement of a new bike and subsequent delays, will probably help Royal Enfield sales this year!
Really fancied buying the BSA however I am a little suspicious that there might have been some unforeseen mechanical problems that might have arisen and am now prepared to wait a while and make sure the bike will live up to my expectations and also see what the professional road testers will make of it?
I'm hanging on to decide between the Gold Star or Interceptor. The latter seems awesome from reviews and can only hope the BSA can match it. Really want the Gold Star but didn't like the pipe cover or radiator size. Also heard the quality was down on RE but that may be as it was a pre-production machine. Anyway for others information, I joined their mailing list and this is what they have said (hope this may help some to wait and see):
'We hear you. You want the new Gold Star now. You want to soak up
the early riding days of the season on a new chapter in history. And of
course, we want that for you too. More than anything.
But, just like the ride itself, we want to get geared up for it
and do it properly.

The magnitude of what we’re doing - relaunching not just a
motorcycle but an entire brand from scratch - is no walk in the park (or
ride through the Cotswolds, for that matter). We’ve taken so long in the
creation of the new Gold Star, considering every detail at every stage,
that we refuse to let ourselves and ultimately you down by hitting the
starter button too soon.
We’ve been working our socks off getting the bike ready for production
and establishing a great dealer network across the UK. And we’re
getting close now, with the first bikes expected to arrive into our
UK dealer network in May. Stick with us on this final stage of the
journey and we promise you a lifetime of incredible memories together.
Bought my Interceptor in November, then the Goldstar was announced & and I though nooooooooooooo. Then I saw it and I thought yuck
Hope they're spending some of the extra time doing something about the design of that honking great rad and the hideous downpipes. If it comes out as it was at the show there's no chance I'll have one, if it's much improved I'll get one in the future so the delay doesn't affect me. Price will be interesting, I'm guessing it'll be 1k more than the Enfields
Meanwhile, I've commuted on my RE all through the winter & it still looks perfect, now I'm looking forward to those warm, dry days when I can get out and properly stretch it's chain
Can't go wrong with the Interceptor :)
On Interceptor you have the aftermarket established.Also makes you wonder if that downpipe can be upgraded the way it looked.I guess you'll de cat it anyway & a aftermarket pipe be smaller & look more proportionate.Probably go for a aftermarket aluminum radiator that slots in between rails with a -10° thermostat.Those 2 mods be what you'd what to do to it after run in.
More power,cooler radiator & better & slimmer.Be interesting to see final product.
Hi sir, love your videos all the time. Feel like I have an addiction to your channel.
Can you make a introduction video about yourself , like what you do for living and what you do in your daily routine life, we all love to know more about you. You are a legend.
Kind Regards
I have an interest in the RE 350 Classic, would rather have a 500, available as a Trails bike from RE, so the Gold Star piqued my interest. But I am just looking at vapors currently. neither is available here locally at this posting in late April.
I think price is going to be crucial and needs to be less than the Interceptor. I kinda envisaged this as filling the space between the Meteor/Classic and the Interceptor. Frankly, if it has been a 500 priced at £5000/£5500, I would have been more interested.
Delay is wanting to get it right. If it fails bad reviews it’s done. Tried the pre production interceptors and was mightily impressed. Knew it was a winner within 10 mins. Think the initial production bikes where of a lesser quality but stepped up now. If it’s better in some form than an R.E. And it needs to have an edge not like for like.,people will pay a bit more of a premium for it ?
You get what you pay for. The U.K. market is a minnow in comparison to the Asian market short riding season etc. so probably not a major concern for them. I will hang on myself as could be a new gem. Hopefully we will get a first ride soon.
I reckon they are still tweaking, can’t get to euro five ? RE had ex triumph in development 😂
What BSA did wrong was to launch the bike as a model at the NEC and then to go very quiet about the actual product... If they had launched it as a "concept" bike and then spent this time teasing the actual bikes it would have made far more sense and kept people excited. What they have done is said "here is the new bike" and then in the months that have followed released nothing relevant. We don't know what the performance is, no idea of a price and don't even know what it sounds like. I haven't seen a single clip of it running apart from what bsa used for the launch video... It's been truly cr*p marketing!
Spot on!
If you’re BSA, you’ve a new bike, need a new dealer network, need a new factory, you’re not looking to sell large quantities this year. 2022 is the year to get ready for 2023. It’s a year of learning. You don’t need to worry about meeting seasonal buying times. Anything in H1 would be fine for them.
All fine, but BSA is a new brand looking to build trust in a highly competitive market. They published a release date and then missed it with very little communication. That’s not a great start.
@@WildlifeMoto totally agree with you. They shouldn’t have set a date, and should be sharing details drip drip drip.
It’s an indication that one shouldn’t consider them for a few years until they’ve ironed out problems with both the product and their business.
Agree with what you say. They have missed the ideal date for release. This bsa and the 300 jawa classic will be my choice but it will now next spring
The first time this year I get a notification about a new upload from you. How strange!?
I've been off for a bit. Back now :)
I have a CGT 650. My first bike was a BSA 650 Lightning. That radiator on the new one kills it for me. But hey, I have five bikes to choose from.
I'm staying with my Interceptor. Great bike tried and tested.
Hi mate..trust all ok with you…
How’s your Indian Scout doing?
I didn't expect anything for at least 12 months as they were only showing pre production builds .
Whilst it's annoying to have to wait longer for the bike you want. Ie- the BSA, perhaps it's going to arrive soon. Or not. A lot of manufacturers are in the same boat ,(excuse the pun) for example. I have a Honda cb500x ordered and it's now a July delivery date.
It's now the end of May 2022 and these still no update from BSA about the bike or dealers . Also no update from Honda on my 500x. They are all the same . !
Don't forget Aprilia delayed the RSV 3 times before they were happy with the bike, and that was a sensation. Personally I'm waiting for a BSA twin.
to me riding season is all year round. it's all down to the price if it can match the interceptor then it will sell.
Priced higher than the Interceptor. It's new and fresher.
Do you think a short person ,would enjoy this motorcycle?
I guess it depends how short and your level of confidence. It's not a tall bike so should be fine for shorter riders.
I'm 5'6"; when I sat on it at Motorcycle Live I could get 3/4 of both feet down to comfortably hold the bike.
That’s all right I can wait
I’ve just ordered a new v7 special. Can’t wait any longer the TT isn’t that long off.
They may still use the JAWA Delaerhsip network to sell BSA because they are already selling Yezdi using JAWA dealerships, this might not be big problem, also they already have a new factory running in India
If they changed the BSA badge for a Marinda one would anyone want one?
Spot on
As I am in for becoming a dealer and know who is in the running for UK supplier, having signed a NDA, I cannot say what is happening but watch this space......exciting times ahead.
Nice. Can you sort me out with a test ride when they turn up?
Frankly, if you can't wait a while longer for this bike, then I question your committment to the brand. The whole point of this re-launch is that it's the revival of another iconic British manufacturer. There are some great bikes out there and you can place an order for one right now and be sure not to miss the 'riding season'. As someone who rides all year round, another few weeks on last years bike isn't such a hardship.
Over promised, under delivered.
Have had an Interceptor since Nov. '20. Love it, but fancied the GoldStar as another bike as it looks great.
It all seemed to go very quiet. Couldn't find anything out about dealers or price....... so bought a 1974 Kawasaki H1 triple stroker for some fun instead.
Wouldn't touch the Taiwanese Triumphs.
Price. Needs to be in the 6,100 to 6,350ukp I feel.
Triumph's aren't built in Taiwan, they are built in Thailand.
So you would’nt touch a bike that’s conceived, R and D’ed and designed by a British company that pay UK tax and employ British engineers and designers cos it’s it’s got production facilities in Taiwan? It’s also looking to shift some production back to the UK. As the owner of a UK engineering company I can assure you that the component supply base in the UK is all but dead, to survive and be competitive UK engineering companies have to make real life decisions to carry on. My relatively small £12,500,000 turn over company stuff’s £3,000,000 into the UK tax coffers annually and employs 40 people directly plus many others indirectly, and no I’m not a wealthy man just a grafter. People like you need to get real and understand what a great job Triumph has done, they punch way above their weight and deserve to be recognized for they success story that they are. Off you go old chap and buy another German/Japanese/Chinese bike and explain to your kids why there’s no engineering jobs for them in the UK and why they pay so much personal tax cos there’s no British owned companies putting money into the exchequer!
May...June...July?