This was the only MMO I've ever gotten into, and I haven't played it in about 11 years. This actually made me kinda want to jump in and see some of the stories I didn't get to back then
holy s**t u just made me realise how old i am cuz im the exact same i checked in again a few years ago but its defo been at least 10 years since i got rly into this game, no other mmos have rly interested me tbf
you should, i just returned few months ago since they reopen the APAC server and lots of the game mechanics changes besides, you can even keep class story with different factions skills though@@iagosplace
Same bro. I played this 8 hours a day at least when I was in college. And then Disney happened and star wars was never the same. I had hands down the best home in swtor. I made an arena in my house, villages, everything. Then an update erased it all and I came back to my senses
Played it at launch - I’ve just gotten back into it for the solo mode. It stands up to time - and I’ve forgotten the story. So it’s a brand new game. Lol
@@hahaha4556 I found it on accident, as far as I’m aware the game never tells you about it. Specifically it’s in the bottom right of the UI, you click PVE and it gives you the option to change the difficulty of NPC enemies.
Great video Lock! I logged so many hours into SWTOR upon release. The Jedi Knight and SIth Sorcerer were my mains and I have a lot of fond memories of it.
i absolutely looooove the direction you guys have taken this channel, alongside retro rewind. i was thinking about how matty could maintain a semblance of normal life while doing more, and more content. having lock lead the charge on more videos & production was a big brain move. lock has really proven himself behind, and in front of the camera, and has made himself undeniable. the newer thumbnails are killer as well! excellent work gents. thank you & cheers 🖤
He just like me fr Seriously though, wasn’t at all expecting it, but respected the transparency. I’m in a similar, desolate spot of having “given up” those closest to me have distanced as a result.
Quick extra info about side quests as someone who's played for a decade and played the updates as they came out: Many side quests still exist despite not being readily available! Once you open the map you have to select "show exploration missions", and then a ton of side-quests will be available! My opinions: As someone who's played since 2014 when I was just nine years old, this game has been a huge mainstay of my life. I've enjoyed countless hours and days on there, with people I'd come to call my friends at times... we'd all log on at the same times, talk about whatever random thing happened in the world that day, or some random movie we'd watched. A little community of like-minded people, all of whom (like myself) have moved on now and may not even remember the times on SWTOR. The game allowed my creativity to run wild and allowed me to fully immerse myself into the world which I loved. At one time there were guilds of dedicated roleplayers who would engage in long thought out storylines amongs themselves, and that further added to the immersive and creative aspects of it all. The gearing was stunning as were the graphics, with many planets having hidden secret and areas you could only find by exploring. Enough ranting on my end, but man, I will forever love this game and what it had, however as of late I've seen myself not returning like I once did. It's gotten stagnant and stale, the creation suite which once had unique backgrounds for each side has since become an endless black hole void. Each class is the same gameplay wise as you can select your favorite combat style regardless. Companions are overpowered and enemies are useless with all the changes that've been made. The grind, which at times was annoying, is gone... and with it, any sense of accomplishment and pride that came with reaching a new level is gone as well. It's a race to max level these days just because you can.
Most of the streamlining actually happened over time. I started playing before LotS, and most of the streamlining was already in the game (Outside of classes being opened up and skills being given automatically). This mainly happened because bioware realised that their primary playerbase wasn't the hardcore MMO players, but people like me who played for the story, who played almost exclusively solo. They played to their strengths (writing) and decided to make things less time consuming, reducing the amount of grinding players need to get to the good stuff. The two best stories on each planet were the planetary questlines and the player's class story. And that's all someone needs to do to stay on level curve. They don't need to do filler sidequests, they don't need to grind out the best gear, they can just enjoy the story. For people wanting an MMO, the options are still there, but said options aren't forced onto people who want to play a bioware RPG. If people want a more traditional MMO experience, there are/were alternatives, but no other MMO leans into the story/RPG aspects like SWTOR. That's what makes it stand out, and it makes sense for the devs to stick with it. Even without the time consuming grind there's a ton of content to experience. I'm someone who played almost exclusively solo, barely engaged with the MMO aspect and just played for the stories, and I still put in 599.4 hours on steam. Time I probably wouldn't have put into it if I had to grind a lot or engage in stuff like veteran flashpoints/operations constantly just to experience the story.
Amazing video as always. I played a sith Inquisitor got to level 70 loved the game. I didn't know that they streamlined it but still it looks interesting I will probably go back one day and play another character story. Maybe the imperial agent like you recommended.
I gave up on that hope. No publisher is going to put out a sandbox MMO or any sandbox game in general anytime soon, without a disney-theme-park-esque quest system that holds everyone's hand since everyone has ADHD and a 15-second attention span. Also need new arbitrary questlines to perpetuate the live service model and generate additional revenue every quarter. SWG's magic lied in the fact that we, the players made the stories. "The greatest story ever told....yours" was the first message you got when you finished installing the game.
@@Digimess88 Someday we will get the full loot pvp mmo sandbox with crazy customization and immersion of our dreams. but people hate being challenged especially by another player better than them.
SWG forever will be the better Star Wars mmo game. Because you felt like you lived in the Star Wars universe on your own adventure. Which I get Swtor isn't mean't to be in that regard, but it fails to make you feel like you're apart of the Star Wars universe. Choices that seemingly matter, really don't matter as it's placebo. But for SWG? You saw and FELT when the other side of the story is dominating a planet. Not to mention the space combat + crafting is eons better than Swtor.
@@Necroside145 I agree, SWG you had to build your "toon" up from literally nothing. The environment incentivized players to cooperate and help each other out. I was incentivized to join a guild pretty quickly, and the guild was incentivized to recruit me for manpower. Whatever "quests" or "quest line" that was in-game for a long time was just window-dressing. Most top-tier "alpha" players spent their day stirring up drama in PvP-related stuff, so it became more the focus than anything really Star Wars related. Fast forward to Rage of the Wookies and Trials of Obi Wan expansions and the quest lines become more developed but nothing too crazy. You'd do the quest, get the reward for yourself and guildies and then business as usual. Tbh I liked having a balance of novel content, but then having the ongoing community-driven PvP/Faction drama thing to go back to. Oh and to add to what you say about "feeling" the other side or other player's presence on a planet....it's why if I play on some emu servers it gives me a weird shade of depression or something because it feels so empty. If you actually have memories of playing back in 2003-ish and compare to now you'd rather just not play and leave the memories be as they were.
@@GrimDim yea but people hated the grind of SWG during it's peak playercount, too. Especially when people started to unlock Jedi with the holo-grind, and the Village grind like me. I played when I was a teenager in highschool, especially during summerbreaks, and I remember the only other group I saw online as much as me were older folks who worked from home so they could be on their PC 24/7, lol.
As someone with over 20k hrs in this Game.. i feel this Video.. i Loved the Challenge.. but i havent touched it since 2-3 years.. Most of my old Buddies left due to the streamlining too . I come Back now for once a month.. and Just stare Out a window of our old guild ship.. as the Last member online..
9:25 minor thing, but the bounty hunter is the equivalent of the trooper. smuggler and imperial agent are equivalents, easiest to remember by them both using cover systems
Thanks for describing this all out. I've never really played an MMO before. I've been thinking about this for awhile now and needed to see something like your video
So this is my perspective on Swtor as someone playing off and on since 2011. I think Swtor or maybe this timeline has been explored pretty well, I'd like to see them either go back further in time to Tulak Horde's era and that period. Or advance a bit into the future. I think storyline they've used their best cards. And unless something changes it will mostly remain a niche MMO.
Great video. I miss SWG too the lack of force users at the beginning was so awesome I'll never forget. No other game except EQ1 gave me such an immersive experience
I’ve been an MMO fan since I started playing games over 12 years ago. RuneScape, WoW, GW2, etc. Somehow I never played swtor. I’ve just recently started playing and it’s been one of my favorite gaming experiences in recent memory. I’m absolutely LOVING it right now and I wish I would have found it years ago when it was more populated.
My wife got me into playing this many years ago and we still have loads of fun playing. Now I've gotten Bessie as companion, also unlocked for all my characters across several servers. She's a beast of a companion.
I remember I started playing this game during quarantine: I've had a great time, despite my shitty computer. Got roughly 1800hrs, which I guess shows how I feel about it lol
I love this damn game. Just started playing it again after 11 years and started a whole new Legacy on Star Forge. It definitely sucks that it's easier, but im alright with that since I mainly just wanna experience the class stories again. Gonna try to get my old lady on here as well (she'll play Agent and ill be a Bounty Hunter) . Might have to turn our companions on passive so things don't die too fast.
So great vid but a couple of things - The game actually didnt get easier at 7.0 it got easier long long time ago. Like right after shadow of revan. It was around the time the character boost tokens really started becoming popular. - The sidequests aren't taken out they are marked as exploration missions something you enable on your map to see (but thats still bad and should be on by default.) - Scaling yeah it sucks but unless you can produce the amount of content wow can you just have to. It keeps all your content current. - SWG didn't die because of NGE. SWG was already suffering massive player count hits with WoW. And it wasn't like the game was popping and being healthy, then bam nge. WoW revolutionized tab target combat, was way less grindy, made it much easier to group up with friends and not focus around macro farming DWB for hours. I love SWG but the combat was super dated post WoW. The NGE was actually the last ditch effort to spice up the game but the WoW machine was at full speed around that time and getting faster. It wasn't just swg but many mmos went through this because they all got wrecked by WoW. As for Swtor, I do miss the slower leveling, challenging questing etc. But I don't blame them from shifting away from that. For starters alot of the "mmo/gameplay" oriented players lets be real bounced very early on. They would trickle back in on occasion but didnt stick as long as the more casual players. The other thing is the game has alot of hours of story with all the xpacs. Requiring someone to get through all of it is kinda rough its alot. Especially when you have to do some planets again and again for each class story. But mmo's in general have gotten easier just because well lets be real...alot of people who play them just arent good at gaming so end-game is where the challenge will live in most mmo's probably forever from this point. This was an amazing video and a great road through memory lane. As someone who still plays SWTOR it is a game that just needed a little bit of love but man does that tiny team keep trying in a competitive market and I can respect that.
Something you should add, there’s an option under the minimap that lets you increase the game’s difficulty. If you click the PVE button on the bottom right of the screen it lets you switch to PVP or change PVE difficulty
@@LordFinai well its not difficulty persay that just puts you in an instance if you want world pvp enabled. Basically they removed PVP servers from the game a while back and merged them so this was their compromise. It was a bad move tbh, and killed off the world pvp communities of the game.
@@LordFinai its essentially their flagging system. If you have the pvp option on it allows players of the opposite faction to kill you. If you have PVE on, players from the opposite faction cannot kill you.
What a great video I do agree with you nights of the fall in Empire was the best story they came out with. 7.0 really hurt it for us. I’m hoping that they come out with a full expansion soon.
This game is so nostalgic for me. I played it at launch and a little while after it went FTP. I never engaged woth the multiplayer much, but i loved going through the individual class stores, Jedi Guardian being my favorite.
Hilarious. I am also an SWG refugee. I did get into WoW, too, and that was fun for a while. Now I'm a grown ass man with a family and career. Good times though.
100% agree i also miss the challenge before it got streamlined. It gave reason to do the side quests and doing these quest made the world you were on alive and brought character. Now its very easy up until end game or some group content. Its still fun but i do miss the challenge and the journey you had playing the game. I change my companions to damage or tank just so i dont feel too invincible and sometimes dismiss them completely so it hopefully still feels like a challenge. Ive just got a friend playing it and he's having a great time and so its made me excited to play again.
Both are still in the game, there’s an option on the map and minimap to show “exploration missions” those are the side quests. As for difficulty, under the minimap is a difficulty setting (You click on the PVE button to access it), have fun.
NGL I wasn't too big a fan of Lock during the first couple videos but I am glad I trusted Matty and stuck it out, this was such a great video. I am glad SWTOR eased up on the draconian grind from years ago lol.
I've been playing since launch with very little down time and I agree with this video. Yes somethings feel a little too easy in the early game, but I'm not against that myself. The enemy scaling, though, isn't 100% like how he said in this video, though. What happened is not planets have fixed "max level" for how strong your stats are, but you don't loss any abilities you have, so you can 100% steamroll some planets. Group stuff though, like Flash Points and Operations are set based on the different players' levels. But even then you can solo a good number of them. Speaking of Flash Points, some of them now have a "Story Mode" difficulty specifically for solo players, if they don't want to group up or play them on a harder mode. Finally, while companions can now be any role (dps, tank, or heal), you still need to raise their standing with you to make them more effective. A companion with lvl 10 influence won't be nearly as effective in a lot of the game as a lvl 50 (the max lvl). I definitely say try this game out!
I play most mmos and loaded this back up a month or so ago. It still has so much potential! Imo it is still a good game and it is a shame it does not get the players it deserves compared to the competitors atm
Unfortunately I lost access to my old account. But this game… I played thousands of hours. Doing the different crafting missions, seeking collectibles, gambling in the casino, buying or earning tight mounts and pets. And then there was the aesthetics, changing your style, your saber, your armor. Man, it was tedious but it was a blast!
Was playing it in year 2017 or maybe even earlier. Really liked that times. Some stories was so cool. Considering to give it a new replay now as i am forgot already some plotlines.
Funny enough, the supposed reason they opened up the job system was to allow for greater character expression and roleplaying. This doesn't just apply to the tech classes either; If you have the legacy perk for going full light or full dark, either by actually reaching it on a character or just buying it, you can use that side's classes with origins on the opposite side. Jedi Knight using Juggernaut, Sith Inquisitor using Sage, ect ect.
My Favorite Class is Sith Inquisitor because I felt so strong because of the Lightning Powers and even with the Stealth type Powers but also loved the other classes I haven't beaten the Bounty Hunter Class Trooper and Imperial Agent but I have enjoyed them a lot but I also love how you can choose to have Dark Side Powers even as Jedi when you choose the Class same with having Light Side Powers when your a Sith its a cool feature that they added 3 years ago in SWTOR 7.0 update which honestly I really Enjoyed because Using Dark Side Powers as Jedi and still choosing Light Side Choices is so funny to me.
Honestly my favorite class is the sith warrior which I thought had a great story in my opinion, plus I love vette she’s really awesome character and her romance was amazing in my opinion.
Just started playing the game and I'm loving it, it feels like a single player game, amazing story an dfully voice acted. Wanted a new MMO so installed a bunch of them, this one was the one that i was least interested in, but still gave it a try and after a couple of hours unninstalled the others.
I've been playing this game for the first time the last week, and I did buy it in 2011 at release but it had been sealed forver due to me thinking that I did want to play the older games first. Anyway, I would agree with you that the enemies are too easy - only the Heroic areas are difficult. But it's still fun feeling OverPowered and it has an interesting story - I'm mostly playing the game for the story. I think grinding can be tedious if the enemies are too difficult so maybe they wanted a faster pace through the story.
I just want to drop in and say I absolutely loved Star Wars Galaxies, I spent my early teens grinding away to become a jedi, and literally a month after I finally achieved it, they opened the door for for everyone else 🙃
And what about that "one time password"? Been trying to comback for days now. It takes a whole day, before I get my code and by the time I have it, it already expired....
Star Wars Galaxies needs a reboot (without Jedi starting class). Modern graphics and gameplay in an open sandbox set during the galactic civil war. I'd never go outside again. lol The Old Republic was more polished, but it never grabbed me like SWG did. My favorite feature was the Bioware style dialogue options, especially when in a group.
MMOs are the types of games I always wished I could like. I just get so bored with (in my opinion) bland gameplay, boring maps and boring exploration I just can't stay interested. I tried WOW, FF14 and SWTOR several times over rthe years and get so bored I leave lol. I do like what they do for gaming as a whole and how invested communities become. It's nice to see when there's actual hype and anticipation. I like seeing people be happy even with games I consider too much of a chore to get into lol
You want a challenge ? Go to Veteran mode or Master mode operations or R-4 Anomaly SM which is hard too, you can also play in PVP, I upload PvP gameplay videos.
I got this downloaded more or less because I want to experience the stories. After my KOTOR 1 (Jedi-starter) playthrough. And then my KOTOR 2 playthrough. Might need a "Is it worth in 2026?" by the time I open this game.
I agree I really enjoyed SWTOR when it was first released. Loved the progression. The catch is that my life changed and I don't have the timer I used to have (work kids), so I ended up playing more and more single player games, as I didn't have the time to sink hours and hours in an MMO. I recently started playing the game again and found it was a more digestible MMO for a busy life time. Do I think the old version was more enjoyable? at the time yes, but unfortunately in present day I would not think of playing it. Now it is enjoyable to sit in my living room while my wife is watching Netflix to play it on my steam deck. It was a really good review/analysis :)
I played this game from the final beta up until a year ago. And as someone who played 99% of the time solo, I Loved this game. Honestly the only reason I stopped playing was the time it takes between story expansions. The challenge is there if you want it.... Mainly in endgame (or don't upgrade gear every 5min). But if you just want story.. I STILL highly recommend Swtor.
I can't remember how long ago(decades) by now that some dev said in a game interview "One of the hardest things when making games is that gamers don't know what they want. When you 'give' them what 'they want', they don't like it... if it's too hard, they don't like it... if it's too EASY, THEY don't like it. Gamers don't know what they want, they just know they want something they'll enjoy. Sometimes you just have to make the game how you want and hope the consumer likes it. If not, oh well... they'll move on." something to that effect. Damn if it still doesn't hold true today, if not more so now than ever.
I have enjoyed playing this game over the past 10 years. I'm a legacy player. I personally love the Jedi Knight and Sith Juggernaut stories. But overall, all of the class stories are great. This is my "Comfort game" that just helps me chill out after coming home from work. I love the side quests and the feel of the game. I think after the past several years of Disney Star Wars nonsense and being forced fed "The Message", this game takes me to what I believe Star Wars is supposed to be about.
I played SWTOR a lot last year after not playing for many years and gameplay wise it is in the best spot it’s ever been. The biggest issue is they never settled on a direction so you see elements of when it was story first vs mmo gameplay first and feels a little disjointed at times. The quality of the storytelling is great though and carries the KOTOR torch faithfully even if the experience is quite different. If they made more content for it, I’d definitely still play.
Something amusing you can try out if you're interested, is to wear completely empty customizable gear and no accessories. It makes the game much harder, but it's still possible to get to level cap and even do some of the high level story quests. I haven't played in quite awhile though, so maybe the more recent level 80+ content is impossible with such weak gear. Your companions really can only carry you so far.
Honestly, the reason why they never ported it to consoles is because it’s an 11 y/o game with an ancient engine. It would be more costly for them to port it. And frankly, the game makes money, but not enough to warrant the attempt to put it on consoles. At least that’s what was reported in the past.
Yeah I am one of those that wanted the story, not the grind. I was there before the changes but I had a hard time with how long everything took. now I can finally dig into the story. If I want a challenge, we still have the heroic missions and pvp and other content. But for me, it was always about the story. (And if you were not a subscriber the grind was AWFUL because they lowered the amount of xp you could get once you were high level enough. Now the game gives out xp boosts to free players which helps get through that grind and rewards you for being a free player.)
The only reason I don't play this game anymore is because how easy and faceroll every thing is nowadays. Would be great to have difficulty modes for quests and world stuff
I think you can change the difficulty to Veteran which is a pain in the ass defeating champion and elite enemies sometimes. I started SWTOR in 2015 and still playing it in 2024, I have to say that Vanilla game still the best, expansion are not that great since there is no more unique story for each class, it all merges into one storyline (all the same to all classes) it becomes repetitive, but the thing that I hate the most is the newest expansion, they start to do the KOTOR cutscenes, no more full voice cutscenes and I hate it so much. I had no problem with that kind of cutscenes in side quest, companion alerts, events. But when they started to do it in the main story it pissed me off. I just 100% enjoy the vanilla game doing side quest, explorations quests, story arc of each planet and bonus series of each planet, the rest I barely enjoy it...
The budget got cut, and the game's voice cast is absolutely stacked, for example, the Male Jedi Knight is David Hayter, Kira is Laura Bailey. There's good voice actors out there who can do these same characters, they just refuse to seek them out.
@@Dexter037S4 it was said that wasn't a budget issue, they pretended to do it in that way to be more "interactive" with more "options" 'cause wasn't too important to make it full voiced and only focuses on what they consider "relevant"
@@jz4tigerblue No company would say it's a budget issue lmao, if you see the voice cast and how expensive it is, and realise EA is barely sending a million dollars to them, you'll see why.
I played for maybe 30 hours back in 2017, stopped and lost the login info. Found it again late last year only find out all my character progress was gone 😭. I ain’t playing through that again, I’ve watched enough cutscene movies and lore vids going over all the story expansions. 😊
A big lesson gaming has taught me, the more you become an OG player, the less you matter and the less games are targeted what you like, because new players and a growing MMO are what are important business wise. Its unfortunate on some level, and of course there are exceptions.
I was very much into this game way in the beginning, but over time I never really could get back into it. But honestly I'm not a big MMO person. I never really put a ton of time into them because they feel kind of tedious to me. I've given this one so many chances, more than pretty much any other game, because I am such a huge Star Wars and Kotor fan. I crave something modern that is related to the Kotor games. I also do enjoy the game for quite a while up until a certain point, then I kinda start getting that "why am I even playing this" feeling.
Man SWTOR was my second favorite MMO after FF14 and I ended up finishing Knight of the Eternal Throne and decided that I had done what I wanted and the direction BioWare was going was t for me. it was a challenge to do it with only myself and my companions but I did it, honestly I thought they shut it down
Great video! Loved every second! of the legacy of the sith changes you mentioned, the only one that LOTS brought was the cross class "skills" The rest of the changes, easier gameplay, companion role selection, level scaling all came in 2015 with the KOTFE expansion. KOTFE was a soft re-launch of the game and sought to tap into a then re-ignited star wars fanbase, and needed to make the base game appeal to a lower common denominator of players. Game has been unfortunately utterly easy since. And the new expansions have a "one size fits all" design philosophy that honestly sucks. No reason any character outside of the 4 force classes would be the titular "outlander and Alliance commander" that is who you play as in the latest expansions. The game has written itself into a hole with it's story, which necessitated a narrative shift back to the focus on Darth Malgus the game currently has. While the game is alive and well, and pulls in many many millions of dollars a month, it is unlikely another massive story expansion will be produced. Still though, thousands of hours of great story content is present in this game. On ultra settings the game looks wonderfully, plays wonderful, the cash shop is non/invasive and overall the experience is one every star wars and mmo fan should try
It's good for the class stories but once you finish them all, only play a force sensitive toon from that point on. I do like that with each year they're learning how to better design things technologically speaking. But I wish they were more inventive not just copying from latest projects at disney... Updating the base game appearance itself would be preferable and definitely stop removing skills and actually adding new abilities that aren't just mediocre passives that only slightly benefit you in raids->ops.
I started playing SWG in 2005 and would play it up until they announced the shutdown, after that I was hopeful that SWTOR would fill that void, but unfortunately the game itself had an identity crisis and it really didn't know what it wanted to be, it went all over the place with it's content and would change many things about it that would eventually lead up to it being mostly a single player experience. For someone whom has played it from launch, I don't feel like it's worth pursuing anymore, but for a newcomer who is just getting started they will be entertained for countless hours in the rich storytelling the game has to offer. The real unfortunate thing is the people handling the game now are from the company Broadsword and is a small team that pales in comparison to when it was in it's heyday and during the Knights of the Fallen Empire era. In all honesty it's on a life support scenario and could easily have the plug pulled at any point, which I'm wondering when will that time come, but until then it will still continue to linger.
It's funny how history repeats itself between SWG and SWTOR, the NGE is regarded as one of the most infamous updates that supposedly ruined the game according to many people despite it also bringing content we don't see in any MMORPG's these days. With SWTOR every update changed the game in many ways that would either be overwritten with the next big update afterwards or just flat out removed. It's a sad situation, I had high hopes with this game during it's early days, but now it's unfortunately run it's coarse for me.
I wonder if the game is worth returning to a player who has done all of the class stories and all the content including the both eternal empire addons.
My first break up, he left for an older girl who would do things I didn’t feel comfortable with yet. I was 14. Because of those circumstances, I didn’t feel like crap at all. I actually felt pretty good for drawing and enforcing that personal boundary. 5 years later, I married my husband of 28 years. He was the first to respect that boundary.
As a new player, I think maybe you already have passed that feeling of accomplishment from growing, after all it is about you as much as it is the character. It just made you wearing the other characters an ability to be more streamlined and similar so you don't have to learn all the playstyles. I still see people asking how to deal with things all the time in discord and reddit because they are dying because they don't have this or that right, and need to adjust. Setting you character up with your level of gear is one thing, then picking out the right skills and understanding them is another, knowing what to attack and when, positioning, companion maxing, budget tending, the knowledge aspect. I mean the systems in this game are enough to negate your idea of no challenge , that I have to assume it is because you have 20 years into this stuff that maybe that is why you aren't seeing it? Alderaan is one of the planets that shit gets real on. Progressively they have harder and harder bosses but I doubt it is as much of a cliff as it once was. But that never really stops. Sure you might be at level 80 by the time you get to a level 60 planet but if they catch you slipping, you can and will die, and that is all the scaling has done. It actually will work against you if you aren't properly geared or user skilled enough to deal with things. Like toward the end of the consular story you have to be able to use interrupts to beat that boss at the end. There is no way to cheese it. But given the game isn't exactly linear, I didn't even experience that until 3 years later after quitting the game and then coming back. There are huge voids now because you can skip around that leave huge gaps in the average players experience. I took a bit of a slow approach, i watched a lot of content from youtube for tips and learned some quests are turned off by default like exploration quests. I had varying levels of characters and none of them had that on so had to do them on newer characters. Which brings up another huge challenge in that the time it takes for things might seem fast, but in reality there is tons and tons you need to do to reach goals. There are most likely things you don't know you are missing as well. The way that things change in this game also means that more than likely you are going to be wrong about a lot you reference as knowns. Which is kind of weird too, there are such a variety of ages of players and amounts of experience, and what they get from the game and how they enjoy it, it is hard to make generalizations. Things are so poorly explained in this game too that you try to google and it could be 10 years old the only info. There always aren't people that know how to answer your questions either so good luck lol. I keep having to redo things and regrind things because I chose poorly or didnt understand a system or the bar got moved, and it is so frustrating. So yeah plenty of hurdles to climb, and its not like there is a clear map of those. You just stumble into them. Glad though to hear you story and how it has affected you. Kind of seems like there is a pattern there. Break up with girl, rebound with games, find another woman, heart broke, rebound iwth games, break up but don't really care, not really rebound but still gaming, sounds like your transition to the dark side has been complete. lol Fucking hell life is hard man. Cheers!
Dude I miss the old difficulty. Yeah it was tough but its way better then literally never having any challenge whatsoever. Its the number one gripe I have with the game. I played this game since launch when I was in like the second grade man. Its probably my favorite game of all time but they really dampened its potency.
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This was the only MMO I've ever gotten into, and I haven't played it in about 11 years. This actually made me kinda want to jump in and see some of the stories I didn't get to back then
holy s**t u just made me realise how old i am cuz im the exact same i checked in again a few years ago but its defo been at least 10 years since i got rly into this game, no other mmos have rly interested me tbf
you should, i just returned few months ago since they reopen the APAC server and lots of the game mechanics changes
besides, you can even keep class story with different factions skills though@@iagosplace
Same bro. I played this 8 hours a day at least when I was in college. And then Disney happened and star wars was never the same. I had hands down the best home in swtor. I made an arena in my house, villages, everything. Then an update erased it all and I came back to my senses
Played it at launch - I’ve just gotten back into it for the solo mode. It stands up to time - and I’ve forgotten the story. So it’s a brand new game. Lol
11 years?!? Dude, there have been so many changes since then.
Small correction: Those small missions are still in game. You just have to open the map and enable their filter.
Yeah I read that. That’s why I always look at every menu when I start playing a new game.
You should also add that there’s a difficulty option under the mini-map, it’s automatically set at the easiest difficulty
@LordFinai There’s a WHAT!?
@@hahaha4556 I found it on accident, as far as I’m aware the game never tells you about it. Specifically it’s in the bottom right of the UI, you click PVE and it gives you the option to change the difficulty of NPC enemies.
@@LordFinai Thank you! I never noticed this before. Any idea when they added this?
Great video Lock! I logged so many hours into SWTOR upon release. The Jedi Knight and SIth Sorcerer were my mains and I have a lot of fond memories of it.
i absolutely looooove the direction you guys have taken this channel, alongside retro rewind. i was thinking about how matty could maintain a semblance of normal life while doing more, and more content. having lock lead the charge on more videos & production was a big brain move. lock has really proven himself behind, and in front of the camera, and has made himself undeniable. the newer thumbnails are killer as well!
excellent work gents. thank you & cheers 🖤
Love the personal stories you bring to these games and the backgrounds behind these games so much!
Bros whole sex life was determined by swtor and you have to respect that
Poor guy, when they release KOTOR remake or 8.0 he’s gonna be broken up with again lol
He just like me fr
Seriously though, wasn’t at all expecting it, but respected the transparency. I’m in a similar, desolate spot of having “given up” those closest to me have distanced as a result.
@@felicenaviidadNah bruh females are crazy
Love that Matty is letting Lockmort do videos on this channel, have really enjoyed the few Summon Sign episodes that Brad has had him as a guest for
Lock we need more videos from you. You're damn good at this. I enjoy hearing you talk about games
Lock knocked this video out of the park. Loved the format and personal context. Keep it up!
Quick extra info about side quests as someone who's played for a decade and played the updates as they came out:
Many side quests still exist despite not being readily available! Once you open the map you have to select "show exploration missions", and then a ton of side-quests will be available!
My opinions:
As someone who's played since 2014 when I was just nine years old, this game has been a huge mainstay of my life. I've enjoyed countless hours and days on there, with people I'd come to call my friends at times... we'd all log on at the same times, talk about whatever random thing happened in the world that day, or some random movie we'd watched. A little community of like-minded people, all of whom (like myself) have moved on now and may not even remember the times on SWTOR.
The game allowed my creativity to run wild and allowed me to fully immerse myself into the world which I loved. At one time there were guilds of dedicated roleplayers who would engage in long thought out storylines amongs themselves, and that further added to the immersive and creative aspects of it all. The gearing was stunning as were the graphics, with many planets having hidden secret and areas you could only find by exploring.
Enough ranting on my end, but man, I will forever love this game and what it had, however as of late I've seen myself not returning like I once did.
It's gotten stagnant and stale, the creation suite which once had unique backgrounds for each side has since become an endless black hole void.
Each class is the same gameplay wise as you can select your favorite combat style regardless.
Companions are overpowered and enemies are useless with all the changes that've been made. The grind, which at times was annoying, is gone... and with it, any sense of accomplishment and pride that came with reaching a new level is gone as well. It's a race to max level these days just because you can.
For a moment there I thought it was kotor… but it was missing the KO
We all know the answer to that one ;)
I've never seen people refer to KOTOR as "SWKOTOR"
Whenever I get the itch to play TOR I always type in SWKOTOR. 🥲 Too many good memories from when I was but a youngling.
Basically kotor 3. The character stories are the main point anyways
Most of the streamlining actually happened over time. I started playing before LotS, and most of the streamlining was already in the game (Outside of classes being opened up and skills being given automatically). This mainly happened because bioware realised that their primary playerbase wasn't the hardcore MMO players, but people like me who played for the story, who played almost exclusively solo.
They played to their strengths (writing) and decided to make things less time consuming, reducing the amount of grinding players need to get to the good stuff. The two best stories on each planet were the planetary questlines and the player's class story. And that's all someone needs to do to stay on level curve. They don't need to do filler sidequests, they don't need to grind out the best gear, they can just enjoy the story.
For people wanting an MMO, the options are still there, but said options aren't forced onto people who want to play a bioware RPG. If people want a more traditional MMO experience, there are/were alternatives, but no other MMO leans into the story/RPG aspects like SWTOR. That's what makes it stand out, and it makes sense for the devs to stick with it.
Even without the time consuming grind there's a ton of content to experience. I'm someone who played almost exclusively solo, barely engaged with the MMO aspect and just played for the stories, and I still put in 599.4 hours on steam. Time I probably wouldn't have put into it if I had to grind a lot or engage in stuff like veteran flashpoints/operations constantly just to experience the story.
This is the only MMO I’ve ever stuck with and have come back to because of this
@@LordFinai Same, SWTOR is the MMO for those who like to be solo, and I'm still part of a guild, just 90% of us are solo players lol
Amazing video as always. I played a sith Inquisitor got to level 70 loved the game. I didn't know that they streamlined it but still it looks interesting I will probably go back one day and play another character story. Maybe the imperial agent like you recommended.
Great job on this one, Lock! I’ll be checking out SWTOR for the first time ever this weekend 🤙
same as well after a harsh start to the weekend
Still playing?
We need a modern Star Wars mmo that is inspired by Star Wars Galaxies.
I gave up on that hope. No publisher is going to put out a sandbox MMO or any sandbox game in general anytime soon, without a disney-theme-park-esque quest system that holds everyone's hand since everyone has ADHD and a 15-second attention span. Also need new arbitrary questlines to perpetuate the live service model and generate additional revenue every quarter. SWG's magic lied in the fact that we, the players made the stories. "The greatest story ever told....yours" was the first message you got when you finished installing the game.
@@Digimess88 Someday we will get the full loot pvp mmo sandbox with crazy customization and immersion of our dreams. but people hate being challenged especially by another player better than them.
SWG forever will be the better Star Wars mmo game. Because you felt like you lived in the Star Wars universe on your own adventure. Which I get Swtor isn't mean't to be in that regard, but it fails to make you feel like you're apart of the Star Wars universe. Choices that seemingly matter, really don't matter as it's placebo.
But for SWG? You saw and FELT when the other side of the story is dominating a planet. Not to mention the space combat + crafting is eons better than Swtor.
@@Necroside145 I agree, SWG you had to build your "toon" up from literally nothing. The environment incentivized players to cooperate and help each other out. I was incentivized to join a guild pretty quickly, and the guild was incentivized to recruit me for manpower. Whatever "quests" or "quest line" that was in-game for a long time was just window-dressing. Most top-tier "alpha" players spent their day stirring up drama in PvP-related stuff, so it became more the focus than anything really Star Wars related.
Fast forward to Rage of the Wookies and Trials of Obi Wan expansions and the quest lines become more developed but nothing too crazy. You'd do the quest, get the reward for yourself and guildies and then business as usual. Tbh I liked having a balance of novel content, but then having the ongoing community-driven PvP/Faction drama thing to go back to.
Oh and to add to what you say about "feeling" the other side or other player's presence on a planet....it's why if I play on some emu servers it gives me a weird shade of depression or something because it feels so empty. If you actually have memories of playing back in 2003-ish and compare to now you'd rather just not play and leave the memories be as they were.
@@GrimDim yea but people hated the grind of SWG during it's peak playercount, too. Especially when people started to unlock Jedi with the holo-grind, and the Village grind like me. I played when I was a teenager in highschool, especially during summerbreaks, and I remember the only other group I saw online as much as me were older folks who worked from home so they could be on their PC 24/7, lol.
8 completable stories with great sidequests and great voice acting for free - thats SWTOR.
I randomly decide to give TOR another try and Matty drops a vid the next day 😂
As someone with over 20k hrs in this Game.. i feel this Video.. i Loved the Challenge.. but i havent touched it since 2-3 years.. Most of my old Buddies left due to the streamlining too . I come Back now for once a month.. and Just stare Out a window of our old guild ship.. as the Last member online..
Just so you know, if you click the PVE button at the bottom right of the screen, you can change the difficulty of PVE
@@LordFinai Unfortunately that is not correct that's only for KOFTE missions. Not for open world PvE.
9:25 minor thing, but the bounty hunter is the equivalent of the trooper. smuggler and imperial agent are equivalents, easiest to remember by them both using cover systems
oh, i guess all the non force classes can use the cover system. but you know what i mean, that’s how it used to be
Thanks for describing this all out. I've never really played an MMO before. I've been thinking about this for awhile now and needed to see something like your video
So this is my perspective on Swtor as someone playing off and on since 2011. I think Swtor or maybe this timeline has been explored pretty well, I'd like to see them either go back further in time to Tulak Horde's era and that period. Or advance a bit into the future. I think storyline they've used their best cards. And unless something changes it will mostly remain a niche MMO.
Great video. I miss SWG too the lack of force users at the beginning was so awesome I'll never forget. No other game except EQ1 gave me such an immersive experience
I’ve been an MMO fan since I started playing games over 12 years ago. RuneScape, WoW, GW2, etc. Somehow I never played swtor. I’ve just recently started playing and it’s been one of my favorite gaming experiences in recent memory. I’m absolutely LOVING it right now and I wish I would have found it years ago when it was more populated.
My wife got me into playing this many years ago and we still have loads of fun playing. Now I've gotten Bessie as companion, also unlocked for all my characters across several servers. She's a beast of a companion.
I only started playing this about a year ago and still am. I can safely say this is worth playing 👍
Great video, I love your takes on these classics
I remember I started playing this game during quarantine: I've had a great time, despite my shitty computer. Got roughly 1800hrs, which I guess shows how I feel about it lol
Really loved this video; it made me nostalgic for something I've never played.
I love this damn game. Just started playing it again after 11 years and started a whole new Legacy on Star Forge. It definitely sucks that it's easier, but im alright with that since I mainly just wanna experience the class stories again. Gonna try to get my old lady on here as well (she'll play Agent and ill be a Bounty Hunter) . Might have to turn our companions on passive so things don't die too fast.
whats funny is that i recently went through a big breakup and what game have i been playing thats been helping me, Swtor. What a funny coincidence
So great vid but a couple of things
- The game actually didnt get easier at 7.0 it got easier long long time ago. Like right after shadow of revan. It was around the time the character boost tokens really started becoming popular.
- The sidequests aren't taken out they are marked as exploration missions something you enable on your map to see (but thats still bad and should be on by default.)
- Scaling yeah it sucks but unless you can produce the amount of content wow can you just have to. It keeps all your content current.
- SWG didn't die because of NGE. SWG was already suffering massive player count hits with WoW. And it wasn't like the game was popping and being healthy, then bam nge. WoW revolutionized tab target combat, was way less grindy, made it much easier to group up with friends and not focus around macro farming DWB for hours. I love SWG but the combat was super dated post WoW. The NGE was actually the last ditch effort to spice up the game but the WoW machine was at full speed around that time and getting faster. It wasn't just swg but many mmos went through this because they all got wrecked by WoW.
As for Swtor, I do miss the slower leveling, challenging questing etc. But I don't blame them from shifting away from that. For starters alot of the "mmo/gameplay" oriented players lets be real bounced very early on. They would trickle back in on occasion but didnt stick as long as the more casual players. The other thing is the game has alot of hours of story with all the xpacs. Requiring someone to get through all of it is kinda rough its alot. Especially when you have to do some planets again and again for each class story. But mmo's in general have gotten easier just because well lets be real...alot of people who play them just arent good at gaming so end-game is where the challenge will live in most mmo's probably forever from this point.
This was an amazing video and a great road through memory lane. As someone who still plays SWTOR it is a game that just needed a little bit of love but man does that tiny team keep trying in a competitive market and I can respect that.
There is XP debuffs on the fleet to recreate old progression.
Something you should add, there’s an option under the minimap that lets you increase the game’s difficulty. If you click the PVE button on the bottom right of the screen it lets you switch to PVP or change PVE difficulty
@@LordFinai well its not difficulty persay that just puts you in an instance if you want world pvp enabled. Basically they removed PVP servers from the game a while back and merged them so this was their compromise. It was a bad move tbh, and killed off the world pvp communities of the game.
@@NotToShabby-nt2if I just launched the game, there is a PVE difficulty option when you click the PVE button, not just the option to switch to PvP
@@LordFinai its essentially their flagging system. If you have the pvp option on it allows players of the opposite faction to kill you. If you have PVE on, players from the opposite faction cannot kill you.
Funniest thing happened, when I was watching this I was at that exact part of the psych episode that spoofs the shining. Absolutely crazy timing
i used to love playing this game in 2013 to 2016, it was a very difficult game, really rewarding, and i loved to wear whathever i wanted
What a great video I do agree with you nights of the fall in Empire was the best story they came out with. 7.0 really hurt it for us. I’m hoping that they come out with a full expansion soon.
Very excited for this video!
This game is so nostalgic for me. I played it at launch and a little while after it went FTP. I never engaged woth the multiplayer much, but i loved going through the individual class stores, Jedi Guardian being my favorite.
I just started playing The Old Republic for the first time earlier this month and I genuinely love it. I'm having fun
Hilarious. I am also an SWG refugee. I did get into WoW, too, and that was fun for a while. Now I'm a grown ass man with a family and career. Good times though.
100% agree i also miss the challenge before it got streamlined. It gave reason to do the side quests and doing these quest made the world you were on alive and brought character. Now its very easy up until end game or some group content. Its still fun but i do miss the challenge and the journey you had playing the game. I change my companions to damage or tank just so i dont feel too invincible and sometimes dismiss them completely so it hopefully still feels like a challenge. Ive just got a friend playing it and he's having a great time and so its made me excited to play again.
Both are still in the game, there’s an option on the map and minimap to show “exploration missions” those are the side quests. As for difficulty, under the minimap is a difficulty setting (You click on the PVE button to access it), have fun.
NGL I wasn't too big a fan of Lock during the first couple videos but I am glad I trusted Matty and stuck it out, this was such a great video. I am glad SWTOR eased up on the draconian grind from years ago lol.
I've been playing since launch with very little down time and I agree with this video. Yes somethings feel a little too easy in the early game, but I'm not against that myself. The enemy scaling, though, isn't 100% like how he said in this video, though. What happened is not planets have fixed "max level" for how strong your stats are, but you don't loss any abilities you have, so you can 100% steamroll some planets. Group stuff though, like Flash Points and Operations are set based on the different players' levels. But even then you can solo a good number of them. Speaking of Flash Points, some of them now have a "Story Mode" difficulty specifically for solo players, if they don't want to group up or play them on a harder mode. Finally, while companions can now be any role (dps, tank, or heal), you still need to raise their standing with you to make them more effective. A companion with lvl 10 influence won't be nearly as effective in a lot of the game as a lvl 50 (the max lvl). I definitely say try this game out!
I play most mmos and loaded this back up a month or so ago. It still has so much potential! Imo it is still a good game and it is a shame it does not get the players it deserves compared to the competitors atm
Unfortunately I lost access to my old account. But this game… I played thousands of hours. Doing the different crafting missions, seeking collectibles, gambling in the casino, buying or earning tight mounts and pets. And then there was the aesthetics, changing your style, your saber, your armor. Man, it was tedious but it was a blast!
Was playing it in year 2017 or maybe even earlier. Really liked that times. Some stories was so cool. Considering to give it a new replay now as i am forgot already some plotlines.
I was an OG star wars galaxies player i even stayed after the combat overhaul, but it was never the same after that patch
Funny enough, the supposed reason they opened up the job system was to allow for greater character expression and roleplaying. This doesn't just apply to the tech classes either; If you have the legacy perk for going full light or full dark, either by actually reaching it on a character or just buying it, you can use that side's classes with origins on the opposite side. Jedi Knight using Juggernaut, Sith Inquisitor using Sage, ect ect.
Dang what a banger of a song
Yo, the DBZ references in the gameplay footage is WILD!
The cover of the Star Wars theme on the piano goes hard.
My Favorite Class is Sith Inquisitor because I felt so strong because of the Lightning Powers and even with the Stealth type Powers but also loved the other classes I haven't beaten the Bounty Hunter Class Trooper and Imperial Agent but I have enjoyed them a lot but I also love how you can choose to have Dark Side Powers even as Jedi when you choose the Class same with having Light Side Powers when your a Sith its a cool feature that they added 3 years ago in SWTOR 7.0 update which honestly I really Enjoyed because Using Dark Side Powers as Jedi and still choosing Light Side Choices is so funny to me.
Honestly my favorite class is the sith warrior which I thought had a great story in my opinion, plus I love vette she’s really awesome character and her romance was amazing in my opinion.
Just started playing the game and I'm loving it, it feels like a single player game, amazing story an dfully voice acted. Wanted a new MMO so installed a bunch of them, this one was the one that i was least interested in, but still gave it a try and after a couple of hours unninstalled the others.
Can someone helped me with the launcher problem it says “ an error has occurred “
I've been playing this game for the first time the last week, and I did buy it in 2011 at release but it had been sealed forver due to me thinking that I did want to play the older games first.
Anyway, I would agree with you that the enemies are too easy - only the Heroic areas are difficult.
But it's still fun feeling OverPowered and it has an interesting story - I'm mostly playing the game for the story.
I think grinding can be tedious if the enemies are too difficult so maybe they wanted a faster pace through the story.
Star wars galaxies, in a retro-rebound. I never thought i'd see the day, a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one!
I just want to drop in and say I absolutely loved Star Wars Galaxies, I spent my early teens grinding away to become a jedi, and literally a month after I finally achieved it, they opened the door for for everyone else 🙃
And what about that "one time password"? Been trying to comback for days now. It takes a whole day, before I get my code and by the time I have it, it already expired....
Star Wars Galaxies needs a reboot (without Jedi starting class). Modern graphics and gameplay in an open sandbox set during the galactic civil war. I'd never go outside again. lol
The Old Republic was more polished, but it never grabbed me like SWG did. My favorite feature was the Bioware style dialogue options, especially when in a group.
MMOs are the types of games I always wished I could like. I just get so bored with (in my opinion) bland gameplay, boring maps and boring exploration I just can't stay interested. I tried WOW, FF14 and SWTOR several times over rthe years and get so bored I leave lol. I do like what they do for gaming as a whole and how invested communities become. It's nice to see when there's actual hype and anticipation. I like seeing people be happy even with games I consider too much of a chore to get into lol
Try ESO if you like RPG's.
You want a challenge ? Go to Veteran mode or Master mode operations or R-4 Anomaly SM which is hard too, you can also play in PVP, I upload PvP gameplay videos.
I got this downloaded more or less because I want to experience the stories. After my KOTOR 1 (Jedi-starter) playthrough. And then my KOTOR 2 playthrough. Might need a "Is it worth in 2026?" by the time I open this game.
Haven't touched the game in a loong time, but I absolutely remember having a blast with a LS Imperial Agent ^^
This is the one game I always keep. Always come back to.
I agree I really enjoyed SWTOR when it was first released. Loved the progression. The catch is that my life changed and I don't have the timer I used to have (work kids), so I ended up playing more and more single player games, as I didn't have the time to sink hours and hours in an MMO. I recently started playing the game again and found it was a more digestible MMO for a busy life time. Do I think the old version was more enjoyable? at the time yes, but unfortunately in present day I would not think of playing it. Now it is enjoyable to sit in my living room while my wife is watching Netflix to play it on my steam deck. It was a really good review/analysis :)
I played this game from the final beta up until a year ago. And as someone who played 99% of the time solo, I Loved this game. Honestly the only reason I stopped playing was the time it takes between story expansions.
The challenge is there if you want it.... Mainly in endgame (or don't upgrade gear every 5min). But if you just want story.. I STILL highly recommend Swtor.
Hey! Is it possible to meet KOTOR 2 characters in this game? Or visit locations from it?
@@helloworld9018 Most of them are long dead by the game, there is a couple cameos as force ghosts and stuff, but that's about it.
I can't remember how long ago(decades) by now that some dev said in a game interview "One of the hardest things when making games is that gamers don't know what they want. When you 'give' them what 'they want', they don't like it... if it's too hard, they don't like it... if it's too EASY, THEY don't like it. Gamers don't know what they want, they just know they want something they'll enjoy. Sometimes you just have to make the game how you want and hope the consumer likes it. If not, oh well... they'll move on." something to that effect.
Damn if it still doesn't hold true today, if not more so now than ever.
I have enjoyed playing this game over the past 10 years. I'm a legacy player. I personally love the Jedi Knight and Sith Juggernaut stories. But overall, all of the class stories are great. This is my "Comfort game" that just helps me chill out after coming home from work. I love the side quests and the feel of the game. I think after the past several years of Disney Star Wars nonsense and being forced fed "The Message", this game takes me to what I believe Star Wars is supposed to be about.
I played SWTOR a lot last year after not playing for many years and gameplay wise it is in the best spot it’s ever been. The biggest issue is they never settled on a direction so you see elements of when it was story first vs mmo gameplay first and feels a little disjointed at times. The quality of the storytelling is great though and carries the KOTOR torch faithfully even if the experience is quite different. If they made more content for it, I’d definitely still play.
Something amusing you can try out if you're interested, is to wear completely empty customizable gear and no accessories. It makes the game much harder, but it's still possible to get to level cap and even do some of the high level story quests. I haven't played in quite awhile though, so maybe the more recent level 80+ content is impossible with such weak gear. Your companions really can only carry you so far.
Honestly, the reason why they never ported it to consoles is because it’s an 11 y/o game with an ancient engine. It would be more costly for them to port it. And frankly, the game makes money, but not enough to warrant the attempt to put it on consoles. At least that’s what was reported in the past.
Yeah I am one of those that wanted the story, not the grind. I was there before the changes but I had a hard time with how long everything took. now I can finally dig into the story.
If I want a challenge, we still have the heroic missions and pvp and other content. But for me, it was always about the story.
(And if you were not a subscriber the grind was AWFUL because they lowered the amount of xp you could get once you were high level enough. Now the game gives out xp boosts to free players which helps get through that grind and rewards you for being a free player.)
The only reason I don't play this game anymore is because how easy and faceroll every thing is nowadays. Would be great to have difficulty modes for quests and world stuff
So true, a model like Lord of the Rings online which is much more enjoyable once you bump the game difficulty.
I think you can change the difficulty to Veteran which is a pain in the ass defeating champion and elite enemies sometimes.
I started SWTOR in 2015 and still playing it in 2024, I have to say that Vanilla game still the best, expansion are not that great since there is no more unique story for each class, it all merges into one storyline (all the same to all classes) it becomes repetitive, but the thing that I hate the most is the newest expansion, they start to do the KOTOR cutscenes, no more full voice cutscenes and I hate it so much. I had no problem with that kind of cutscenes in side quest, companion alerts, events. But when they started to do it in the main story it pissed me off.
I just 100% enjoy the vanilla game doing side quest, explorations quests, story arc of each planet and bonus series of each planet, the rest I barely enjoy it...
The budget got cut, and the game's voice cast is absolutely stacked, for example, the Male Jedi Knight is David Hayter, Kira is Laura Bailey.
There's good voice actors out there who can do these same characters, they just refuse to seek them out.
@@Dexter037S4 it was said that wasn't a budget issue, they pretended to do it in that way to be more "interactive" with more "options" 'cause wasn't too important to make it full voiced and only focuses on what they consider "relevant"
@@jz4tigerblue No company would say it's a budget issue lmao, if you see the voice cast and how expensive it is, and realise EA is barely sending a million dollars to them, you'll see why.
The game should really tell players there’s a difficulty option that you get if you click the PVE button on the bottom right of the screen
What is the reward for the increased difficulty mode?
@@commander_fu6457 I don’t think there is one, I don’t know for sure though
@@commander_fu6457 improved and/or exclusive gear and rewards.
That's not correct that's only for the KOFTE missions not for open world PvE gameplay.
This guy could become the villain but he decided to follow the light path, I'm proud of you!
If only I can play it on console 😢
I played for maybe 30 hours back in 2017, stopped and lost the login info. Found it again late last year only find out all my character progress was gone 😭. I ain’t playing through that again, I’ve watched enough cutscene movies and lore vids going over all the story expansions. 😊
A big lesson gaming has taught me, the more you become an OG player, the less you matter and the less games are targeted what you like, because new players and a growing MMO are what are important business wise.
Its unfortunate on some level, and of course there are exceptions.
This game could have actually been something if it was also on consoles
Yeah ESO does it and ESO is also built on the same HERO engine as SWTOR.
@@Hunterbw93 SWTOR is on an extremely early version of the HERO Engine, ESO is on the final release version.
Happy Star Wars day 🥳
I was very much into this game way in the beginning, but over time I never really could get back into it. But honestly I'm not a big MMO person. I never really put a ton of time into them because they feel kind of tedious to me. I've given this one so many chances, more than pretty much any other game, because I am such a huge Star Wars and Kotor fan. I crave something modern that is related to the Kotor games. I also do enjoy the game for quite a while up until a certain point, then I kinda start getting that "why am I even playing this" feeling.
Man SWTOR was my second favorite MMO after FF14 and I ended up finishing Knight of the Eternal Throne and decided that I had done what I wanted and the direction BioWare was going was t for me. it was a challenge to do it with only myself and my companions but I did it, honestly I thought they shut it down
Great video! Loved every second!
of the legacy of the sith changes you mentioned, the only one that LOTS brought was the cross class "skills"
The rest of the changes, easier gameplay, companion role selection, level scaling all came in 2015 with the KOTFE expansion.
KOTFE was a soft re-launch of the game and sought to tap into a then re-ignited star wars fanbase, and needed to make the base game appeal to a lower common denominator of players.
Game has been unfortunately utterly easy since. And the new expansions have a "one size fits all" design philosophy that honestly sucks. No reason any character outside of the 4 force classes would be the titular "outlander and Alliance commander" that is who you play as in the latest expansions.
The game has written itself into a hole with it's story, which necessitated a narrative shift back to the focus on Darth Malgus the game currently has.
While the game is alive and well, and pulls in many many millions of dollars a month, it is unlikely another massive story expansion will be produced.
Still though, thousands of hours of great story content is present in this game.
On ultra settings the game looks wonderfully, plays wonderful, the cash shop is non/invasive and overall the experience is one every star wars and mmo fan should try
The SWTOR Bounty Hunter is actually closer to the Trooper since they share skills just like the Smuggler and Agent.
My take on is is that, gameplay wise, trooper and hunter are equivalent. But, in terms of story themes, hunter and smuggler are equivalent
It's good for the class stories but once you finish them all, only play a force sensitive toon from that point on.
I do like that with each year they're learning how to better design things technologically speaking.
But I wish they were more inventive not just copying from latest projects at disney...
Updating the base game appearance itself would be preferable and definitely stop removing skills and actually adding new abilities that aren't just mediocre passives that only slightly benefit you in raids->ops.
Broadsword is working on that, recently they hired some people from ReShade to upgrade the game's Shader settings, and it looks better than ever now.
I didn’t play game
Yet but I love your voice lol
I like this guy Matty… thank you
I started playing SWG in 2005 and would play it up until they announced the shutdown, after that I was hopeful that SWTOR would fill that void, but unfortunately the game itself had an identity crisis and it really didn't know what it wanted to be, it went all over the place with it's content and would change many things about it that would eventually lead up to it being mostly a single player experience. For someone whom has played it from launch, I don't feel like it's worth pursuing anymore, but for a newcomer who is just getting started they will be entertained for countless hours in the rich storytelling the game has to offer. The real unfortunate thing is the people handling the game now are from the company Broadsword and is a small team that pales in comparison to when it was in it's heyday and during the Knights of the Fallen Empire era. In all honesty it's on a life support scenario and could easily have the plug pulled at any point, which I'm wondering when will that time come, but until then it will still continue to linger.
It's funny how history repeats itself between SWG and SWTOR, the NGE is regarded as one of the most infamous updates that supposedly ruined the game according to many people despite it also bringing content we don't see in any MMORPG's these days. With SWTOR every update changed the game in many ways that would either be overwritten with the next big update afterwards or just flat out removed. It's a sad situation, I had high hopes with this game during it's early days, but now it's unfortunately run it's coarse for me.
Short Answer: Yes. Long Answer: depends on how much you like Star Wars VS how much you like mmorpgs
I wonder if the game is worth returning to a player who has done all of the class stories and all the content including the both eternal empire addons.
My first break up, he left for an older girl who would do things I didn’t feel comfortable with yet. I was 14. Because of those circumstances, I didn’t feel like crap at all. I actually felt pretty good for drawing and enforcing that personal boundary.
5 years later, I married my husband of 28 years. He was the first to respect that boundary.
I feel this would get a big surge if it was on consoles and crossplay like ff14
As a new player, I think maybe you already have passed that feeling of accomplishment from growing, after all it is about you as much as it is the character. It just made you wearing the other characters an ability to be more streamlined and similar so you don't have to learn all the playstyles. I still see people asking how to deal with things all the time in discord and reddit because they are dying because they don't have this or that right, and need to adjust. Setting you character up with your level of gear is one thing, then picking out the right skills and understanding them is another, knowing what to attack and when, positioning, companion maxing, budget tending, the knowledge aspect. I mean the systems in this game are enough to negate your idea of no challenge , that I have to assume it is because you have 20 years into this stuff that maybe that is why you aren't seeing it?
Alderaan is one of the planets that shit gets real on. Progressively they have harder and harder bosses but I doubt it is as much of a cliff as it once was. But that never really stops. Sure you might be at level 80 by the time you get to a level 60 planet but if they catch you slipping, you can and will die, and that is all the scaling has done. It actually will work against you if you aren't properly geared or user skilled enough to deal with things. Like toward the end of the consular story you have to be able to use interrupts to beat that boss at the end. There is no way to cheese it.
But given the game isn't exactly linear, I didn't even experience that until 3 years later after quitting the game and then coming back. There are huge voids now because you can skip around that leave huge gaps in the average players experience. I took a bit of a slow approach, i watched a lot of content from youtube for tips and learned some quests are turned off by default like exploration quests. I had varying levels of characters and none of them had that on so had to do them on newer characters.
Which brings up another huge challenge in that the time it takes for things might seem fast, but in reality there is tons and tons you need to do to reach goals. There are most likely things you don't know you are missing as well. The way that things change in this game also means that more than likely you are going to be wrong about a lot you reference as knowns.
Which is kind of weird too, there are such a variety of ages of players and amounts of experience, and what they get from the game and how they enjoy it, it is hard to make generalizations.
Things are so poorly explained in this game too that you try to google and it could be 10 years old the only info. There always aren't people that know how to answer your questions either so good luck lol.
I keep having to redo things and regrind things because I chose poorly or didnt understand a system or the bar got moved, and it is so frustrating. So yeah plenty of hurdles to climb, and its not like there is a clear map of those. You just stumble into them.
Glad though to hear you story and how it has affected you. Kind of seems like there is a pattern there. Break up with girl, rebound with games, find another woman, heart broke, rebound iwth games, break up but don't really care, not really rebound but still gaming, sounds like your transition to the dark side has been complete. lol Fucking hell life is hard man. Cheers!
Just started playing this game and i love it
OMG, completely forgot. Happy may the fourth!
Watching this really makes me miss classic swtor 😢
Same, I recently came back after missing the last expansion, the modern 64 bit client is nice but i miss the shadow of revan era
Nothing useful until 23:50 lol
God how I wish this would come to consoles… I know it’s old, but it still looks great and it’s the ONLY SW MMO as far as I’m concerned
Dude I miss the old difficulty. Yeah it was tough but its way better then literally never having any challenge whatsoever. Its the number one gripe I have with the game. I played this game since launch when I was in like the second grade man. Its probably my favorite game of all time but they really dampened its potency.