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So refreshing to see evidence based testing on water filters. For the discerning consumer who won’t just take the manufacturer’s word for it on filter safety data.
2nd comment, you guys rock!!! Awesome testing! As someone else mentioned, we would like an answer about any chemicals leached, like the waterdrop countertop variant.
It was part of our under sink RO comparison: ruclips.net/video/2lVPi2g0VGI/видео.html - In a nutshell, filtration results were really solid and we have lots of NSF certifications. Usability was also great, except that faucet flow was by far the slowest out of all under sink ROs we tested. And we didn't like the considerable amount of negative 3rd-party customer feedback on Amazon (most issues revolve around malfunctioning systems and overall quality issues).
I have the G3P800.... It has been installed for about 2 months and reads 13 to 15 TDS.... I'm seeing mixed responses from that reading on Google and youtube.... Some articles/people say 13 TDS is safe for drinking and will cause no long term effects, some say anything below 50 TDS can cause long term cardiovascular problems and weaken bones..... Does anything have any real knowledge on this subject?
We could only find recommendations for calcium (~50 ppm) and magnesium (20-30 ppm) in drinking water, so essentially a combined level of 75-80 ppm (Source: iris.who.int/bitstream/handle/10665/43403/9241593989_eng.pdf). You can achieve these levels by remineralizing your water after filtration. And when you consider that you still have some other healthy dissolved solids left in your filtered water, you should reach a TDS of around 100 ppm which, based on the same report linked above, seems to fall within the recommended range.
Thank you for your always excellent reviews. I got the unit as you recommended. All is well except the TDS on the machine/faucet are persistently low by 2-4 fold compared to an external meter (calibrated with control). My tap water is around 520. Waterdrop machine 22, reading with an external meter for filtered water is 61. Repeated and used control with persistent falsely low readings. Nightmare trying to resolve the issue with Waterdrop!
It does but the question also is, does it leach any plastic particles (micro/nanoplastics) back into the water? We simply don't know because a lot more research is required on this topic.
You can use your own faucet but then you will only have the filter life indicator and TDS monitoring on the system module. And depending on your faucet, you might need an adapter.
We're about to start testing the Waterdrop TSU together with a bunch of other under sink water filters. But it will be at least a couple of weeks until we will have a finished video.
This also depends on which type you prefer - countertop vs under sink. Based on our lab testing and NSF certifications, the AquaTru Classic does a better job. It also wastes less water. But not everyone wants such a system on their countertop or they might not have the space to accommodate one.
Thanks for the very helpful video -- and other info. you gathered about this machine! Lots of work. I just recently purchased this model, and will soon have it installed. After it's operational, my next focus will be: how to optimally re-mineralize the resulting water. In searching around for mineral drops to improve the taste, I came across a product called "Aussie Trace Minerals Electrolytes", with "Ionic / Pure" written on the front of the bottle also. 8 fluid ounces, and available at Amazon. I decided to buy it. In looking at the "Typical Lab Analysis" of what's in the drops, it appears to have a good amount of Magnesium in it (64,800 mg/kg), and several other minerals at significant amounts. However for Calcium, it has only 44 mg/kg listed, which seems like a small amount (comparatively). I read somewhere that Magnesium and Calcium were the two (2) most important minerals, when it came to restoring a good taste to either: 1) distilled water, or 2) reverse osmosis filtered water. In other words, to try to get it tasting as close to "Spring Water" as one can get it, with a quick process such as adding mineral drops to it. Does that sound accurate to you? If so, ... are there any realistic ways to "fully remineralize" distilled or Reverse Osmosis water, such that minerals most affecting the taste are sufficiently restored to the water? Or even, partially restored to the water? So it's not unpleasant tasting? In other words, are there ways to remineralize water (artificially, of course) such that it can actually approximate the ways that nature does it - presumably over some time of exposure, allowing leaching, etc. - so that it actually tastes like "Spring Water" ? Artificial ways that perhaps involve more steps than simply putting in some drops, and mixing it in? Have you ever read any comprehensive & detailed articles, about how re-mineralization of R.O. water can be successfully and optimally done? (At home, and under what ideal circumstances, etc.) Thanks for any insights. Or even: other product recommendations, ... aside from the Aussie Drops?
I can't recommend any products because we haven't tested any yet. But based on our research, you are right that calcium and magnesium are most important to restore - not for taste but for health reasons. The WHO recommends optimum Mg level at 20-30 mg/L (ppm) and for Ca it's ~50 mg/L (ppm). It looks like the drops you mentioned have plenty of Mg but no Ca. As for taste, I think sodium and potassium are pretty important here, too, but I'm no expert in this. Sorry, I'm not sure if this answer is helpful at all but I don't want to make any false claims before we have some hard data.
Hello, great video, but in the google sheet I see total bacteria score of >1600 cfu/mL with a EPA Limits of 500 cfu/mL, could you elaborate about that and eventual risks?
Sure thing. As soon as you take the disinfectant (chlorine/chloramine) out of the water, total bacteria count goes up because these bacteria can now actually survive in the water. We see that with every water filter we test. That said, this is not a health concern - total bacteria count is used to check the overall condition of a water supply, in other words making sure that it's being properly disinfected. These are bacteria that live everywhere around us. But only certain types of bacteria can be harmful such as E. Coli. However, E. Coli etc. won't just magically appear in your water because you take out the chlorine. It must have been there before filtration. Hope this helps!
@martincets8334 It would, at least temporarily. What I mean by that is UV light destroys bacteria, but it doesn't have any lasting effect so that when the water leaves the UV chamber and isn't exposed to the UV light any longer, it might recontaminate if there are any bacteria downstream of the UV stage. It would be really interesting to test this actually, but as far as I know this would require a sterile environment and so this isn't something we can do right now.
@@boswater6065 So you can state that this filter is safe and the problem with those chemicals found in the other filter you made a video about is not a problem that concerns this filter right?
Is PFAS tested for in lab tests? How did this perform? What’s the latest understanding of how many different types of forever chemicals are in our water? I know Teflon and durable water repellent are rampant in our water systems and don’t break down (hence being a forever chemical). This stuff fascinates and terrifies me. Thanks for your hard work!!
No, we don't test for PFAS simply because it is extremely expensive. Hopefully we can include it in future. Good news is, PFAS are relatively easy to remove for example using activated carbon which all RO systems that I know include.
Can you please tell more about the pump noise? Is the unit only making the noise when in use or does it occasionally turn on/off to drain water as some reviews on Amazon say. Thank you
Yes, the system features auto-flushing and for that it has to activate the pump. The system will flush automatically, 1.) if there was a power outage 2.) after 2 hours of accumulative working time 3.) 5 minutes after you've dispensed water 4.) and I also believe after 12 hours of non-use. As such, it makes sense to fill a large container a few times a day rather than small glasses which we definitely should have mentioned in the video.
Is it possible to get varying water filters for the same system. Like one time you might not find any contamination then new filters could leach chemicals?
As far as I understand, the warning has to be added in case any of the substances on the list are contained in the product. And because it's a really long list some manufacturers simply add the warning just in case, because it is impossible for them to test their products against all these substances.
There is no lead in our water so we couldn't test, and there is no NSF certification for lead either. That said, reverse osmosis in general is highly effective at reducing lead.
@ChantyMarieVlogs Same as with lead - arsenic isn't in our water and the G3P600 isn't certified for arsenic reduction, but RO in general is highly effective at reducing arsenic.
I went to order this system and when I tried to combine the current sale with your 5% off code, it wouldn’t accept it. When I contacted the company, they said that you cannot combine codes. Is there someone specific that we should talk to? I’m disappointed that it didn’t work the way that it was advertised here. 😕
Sorry about the confusion. So you don't need to combine any codes. You just need to use one code (our code). However, it looks like Waterdrop forgot to update our code to match the current G3P600/X12 sale. In other words, our code is still for the old sale. But we've reached out to Waterdrop about this and hopefully they will fix this very soon.
@@boswater6065 Thank you for making informative video. Was considering the K6 model as we are tea drinkers but the review was not as good as the G3P600. I tried your G3P600 discount code but looks like it doesn't during the Black Friday sales.
@shemazar We couldn't find a lot of research on this but the WHO recommends a certain level for both magnesium and calcium in drinking water and none of the remineralization filters we tested could reach those levels - far from it in many cases!
Is every tankless OR system has a pressure pump in them ? If yes can I use this tankless system if my water flow pressure is high? I just don't understand and iwould like some explanation on that please
As far as I know, yes, every tankless RO has a pressure pump. That's because they need to speed up the filtration process because they filter water on demand. Do you mean you have high pressure in your home? This is no problem.
So after 6 months the filter is really bad, or that's just their manufacture recommendation? Because I believe we only use about 150 gallons a year currently with our current 5 gallon water jug situation.
They say: "Provides up to 6 months or 550 gallons of clean water". So if you're only using 150 gallons a year, I think you should be fine using the filter longer than 6 months. The other carbon filter stage is rated at 12 months or 1,100 gallons so maybe replace both once a year.
Iam still missing some info here Did any of the RO systems leeched o-xylene or p+m xylenes i looked again and again for really long time to the filtration results i still can't find it ,so you do tell me since you see it while I can't ,,,,also are you going to test under sink non RO systems and fridge inline filters any soon please add those to your list🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
You can find that information in the Google Sheet > Filtration Results tab > and then checking each of the lab reports linked at the top. Anyway, no o-xylene or p+m xylenes leaching based on our testing. Yes, we will test "regular" under sink water filters asap. With fridge filters we are not so sure. Do you mean filters that go into the fridge (into its filter compartment) or generic filters that sit between the feed water valve and the fridge?
so exciting that you have under sink water filter lab testing project asap ,,,please include express water filter (StreamLine Direct connection ) and express 3 stage with the fridge,i meant the generic ones that sits between the feed water valve and the fridge and can remove as much as it can from the unwanted contaminants.💙 thanks for always showing your commitment to your job👏👏👏
@@boswater6065I would love to hear about the inline filters that go in between a fridge and the wall. I’ve seen a few companies making these and saying ow great they are but I haven’t found an in depth analysis
Hi, I've been looking into reverse osmosis water systems and this one seems the most appealing. However when I saw the lab results for the A2 over the counter Waterdrop system it made me worry about this one. I did see the results and it didn't mention any added chemicals (unlike the a2) But my question is, why when I try to purchase this system on Amazon, I get a big prop 65 warning. I know basically everything in California has this warning, but why was this one of the only RO system that had the prop 65 warning on it. (For example the aquatru systems did not give me a prop65 cancer causing warning. Thanks in advance. Love the in-depth videos and just subscribed!
I have to admit that I'm not super familiar with the topic (meaning Prop 65). But I found this interesting article: www.aquatell.ca/blogs/aquatell/understanding-california-proposition-65 - it basically says that there are currently more than 900 chemicals on the Prop 65 list that a company would be required to test for which would be extremely expensive and difficult. The article then says that "Instead of businesses having their products tested to ensure compliance, they've opted to just label everything as a risk to avoid the expense of testing, and to avoid any legal liability." So maybe that's the case with the Waterdrop G3P600, but this is just a guess. On the other hand, I highly doubt that all other water filters that don't show a Prop 65 warning are properly tested to comply with Prop 65.
A more reliable indicator of the noisiness or noise levels of RO systems would be their measure in decibels during operation. Also the websites are not really clear on the pure to drain ratio (how of of pure water is generated per gallon of wasted water or how much of water is wasted to produce a gallon on pure water). Instead of dumping the waste water down the drain, if there is some kind of a provision to empty this onto a rain-waster/waste water collection system for use in gardens, it would be a more welcome feature
Agreed about measuring noisiness in decibels! The google sheets list a pure-to-drain ratio, for example 1:0.75 meaning if you produce 1 gallon of pure water you will also produce 0.75 gallons wastewater.
Can you pleaseeee do lab test to the APEC Tankless RO 3-Stage Water Filter System ROTL-600 - Premium Reverse Osmosis next since it is tankless version I don't have any premium lab test like tap score where i live
It's really just called the AquaTru Classic. Maybe check our countertop RO comparison video (ruclips.net/video/-W65jKwcE2w/видео.html) or our countertop water filter comparison video (ruclips.net/video/QwJauKAFZBY/видео.html). What we like most about the AquaTru Classic is definitely its NSF certifications.
So... why there's so many complaints that people in the UK or EU can't get CF filter replacements? Only 1 year warranty for £$€500+ indicates Waterdrop don't stand behind their own product. If it was 2 or 3 years then it would mean they believe it's good enough and should last a decent while.
You are right, 2 or 3 years warranty would be better than 1, although a 1-year warranty is pretty common even at that price point. I don't know what the issue is with CF filter replacements in the UK/EU.
@@boswater6065 There's a lot of people complaining in the EU/UK that the system becomes useless due to no availability of filters when it's time to replace. Some say they wait for months for delivery and/or have to pay $75 for shipment from the US. Also, I was shocked to read reviews stating that Waterdrop 15UA filtering system has written on it's box it CAN CAUSE CANCER or BIRTH DEFECTS?!! Some people on Amazon returned them immediately after spotting this small print on the box... unbelievable.
I'm assuming than note is a Prop 65 warning which doesn't necessarily mean anything (see www.aquatell.ca/blogs/aquatell/understanding-california-proposition-65). Also the Waterdrop G3P600 is certified against NSF standard 58 meaning it was also tested for material safety. Of course, you can never be 100% certain but this is about as good as it gets.
@@boswater6065 hmm... if there's a small print on a box stating CAN CAUSE CANCER OR BIRTH DEFECTS that means a lot to me hence am not buying products that supposed to protect or improve my health and can do the opposite. We've had a similar one before i.e. Teflon from Due Pont that they claimed was absolutely safe and it took 20 years to prove it was causing same health issues.
I’m not sure you can actually give a wastewater ratio without taking into account the auto-flush functions. From my experience after a week, there’s an auto-flush about five minutes after essentially each use of the faucet (unless it comes within five minutes of the last use). Each of these flushes create about 1L of wastewater - regardless of how much water you have dispensed. Which means for an 8oz glass of water on demand, you could possibly generate 36oz of waste water. This is not even close to .75 gallons waste to 1 gal clean.
@@boswater6065without the waste from the flushes, it’s a pretty misleading ratio. Either way the flush water should be shared by Waterdrop as this absolutely impacts calculations for those for whom wasted water matters. From you expertise, can you explain why a post use flush is needed - after every use? The system can go 12 hours without flushing, so the water I’m drinking isn’t changing. Why does it have to flush post-dispense? What’s the purpose?
@@boswater6065 Reply from manufacturer is that this is not a necessary feature, but it does help to balance the water on either side of the RO membrane, whatever that means. The G2 model does not have this "feature". Reading between the lines, I might assume this has been added to the G3 because they now have a TDS readout and it is easier to waste this water to keep the readout consisten than explaining to people that the TDS reading will fluctuate with use because of how a tankless system works. Either way, this "feature" disqualifies it for me. I purchased the system in large part because of your review, and I think it's fair to suggest that your review should make people aware of this highly wasteful practice in the G3 series.
You are probably right about the issue with the TDS display. Yes, I already agreed to that suggestion above. Edit: We're sorry that you made your purchase largely based on our review which didn't quantify the amount of water wasted during auto-flushing. We will make sure to do better next time!
It was this brand, but specifically the waterdrop over the counter one, I believe it was the A2 one. However in this report it didn't mention anything being added, aside from a bit more iron than the pre-filtered water.
Great video! Could you please review the Bluevua RO100ROPOT-Lite(UV) model in one of your future videos? I’m really interested in hearing your thoughts on its performance and lab test. Thanks!
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So refreshing to see evidence based testing on water filters. For the discerning consumer who won’t just take the manufacturer’s word for it on filter safety data.
2nd comment, you guys rock!!!
Awesome testing!
As someone else mentioned, we would like an answer about any chemicals leached, like the waterdrop countertop variant.
Thank you! There was no chemical leaching in our testing.
Costco carries the Brondell Circle Reverse Osmosis Water Filtration System. Do you have any reviews and test results for this system? Thank you.
It was part of our under sink RO comparison: ruclips.net/video/2lVPi2g0VGI/видео.html - In a nutshell, filtration results were really solid and we have lots of NSF certifications. Usability was also great, except that faucet flow was by far the slowest out of all under sink ROs we tested. And we didn't like the considerable amount of negative 3rd-party customer feedback on Amazon (most issues revolve around malfunctioning systems and overall quality issues).
I have the G3P800.... It has been installed for about 2 months and reads 13 to 15 TDS.... I'm seeing mixed responses from that reading on Google and youtube.... Some articles/people say 13 TDS is safe for drinking and will cause no long term effects, some say anything below 50 TDS can cause long term cardiovascular problems and weaken bones..... Does anything have any real knowledge on this subject?
We could only find recommendations for calcium (~50 ppm) and magnesium (20-30 ppm) in drinking water, so essentially a combined level of 75-80 ppm (Source: iris.who.int/bitstream/handle/10665/43403/9241593989_eng.pdf). You can achieve these levels by remineralizing your water after filtration. And when you consider that you still have some other healthy dissolved solids left in your filtered water, you should reach a TDS of around 100 ppm which, based on the same report linked above, seems to fall within the recommended range.
Hi, what about salt based water softeners? I have one at my home, Will the system work well? I read somewhere that it was not recommended.
I've just confirmed this with Waterdrop and using a water softener upstream of the G3P600 is not an issue.
Thank you for your always excellent reviews. I got the unit as you recommended. All is well except the TDS on the machine/faucet are persistently low by 2-4 fold compared to an external meter (calibrated with control). My tap water is around 520. Waterdrop machine 22, reading with an external meter for filtered water is 61. Repeated and used control with persistent falsely low readings. Nightmare trying to resolve the issue with Waterdrop!
Thanks for sharing and sorry to hear about your issue. We also compared our machine's TDS reading with a handheld TDS meter and the numbers matched.
@@boswater6065 Thank you. Shall switch to X-12. Hope you approve (other than the price)
@rave8635 Yes, we also recommend the X12. It did great in our testing. Major downside is the price tag.
Thank you for sharing the water test. Please let us know if you have any test results for the Waterdrop G3P800 RO system
You're welcome! No testing for the G3P800, sorry.
With the water testing, was there any chemicals that leeched from the RO membrane? I believe there was an issue with the countertop variant.
No chemical leaching. Otherwise, we would have mentioned it.
Does this filter microplastics?
It does but the question also is, does it leach any plastic particles (micro/nanoplastics) back into the water? We simply don't know because a lot more research is required on this topic.
I'm thinking of getting the 600 or the 800. You guys have a comparison video of both? Is the 800 worth the extra price?
We haven't tested the G3P800 yet. The main difference is the ~33% faster faucet flow.
Do you have to use the faucet that comes with it, or can we use one we already have that matches our main faucet?
You can use your own faucet but then you will only have the filter life indicator and TDS monitoring on the system module. And depending on your faucet, you might need an adapter.
@@boswater6065thank you!!
Will you be testing the Waterdrop TSU-W in the near future?
We're about to start testing the Waterdrop TSU together with a bunch of other under sink water filters. But it will be at least a couple of weeks until we will have a finished video.
Would you go with this or tue aquatru countertop? Which one does a better job of purifying the water and which has less waste water?
This also depends on which type you prefer - countertop vs under sink. Based on our lab testing and NSF certifications, the AquaTru Classic does a better job. It also wastes less water. But not everyone wants such a system on their countertop or they might not have the space to accommodate one.
Would I be correct in thinking the noise from the pump /unit is only when the system is being used, when not being used it's silent ?
Correct. However, every once in a while the system might flush so this is when you'll also hear the pump.
Thanks for the very helpful video -- and other info. you gathered about this machine! Lots of work. I just recently purchased this model, and will soon have it installed. After it's operational, my next focus will be: how to optimally re-mineralize the resulting water.
In searching around for mineral drops to improve the taste, I came across a product called "Aussie Trace Minerals Electrolytes", with "Ionic / Pure" written on the front of the bottle also. 8 fluid ounces, and available at Amazon. I decided to buy it. In looking at the "Typical Lab Analysis" of what's in the drops, it appears to have a good amount of Magnesium in it (64,800 mg/kg), and several other minerals at significant amounts. However for Calcium, it has only 44 mg/kg listed, which seems like a small amount (comparatively).
I read somewhere that Magnesium and Calcium were the two (2) most important minerals, when it came to restoring a good taste to either: 1) distilled water, or 2) reverse osmosis filtered water. In other words, to try to get it tasting as close to "Spring Water" as one can get it, with a quick process such as adding mineral drops to it. Does that sound accurate to you?
If so, ... are there any realistic ways to "fully remineralize" distilled or Reverse Osmosis water, such that minerals most affecting the taste are sufficiently restored to the water? Or even, partially restored to the water? So it's not unpleasant tasting?
In other words, are there ways to remineralize water (artificially, of course) such that it can actually approximate the ways that nature does it - presumably over some time of exposure, allowing leaching, etc. - so that it actually tastes like "Spring Water" ?
Artificial ways that perhaps involve more steps than simply putting in some drops, and mixing it in?
Have you ever read any comprehensive & detailed articles, about how re-mineralization of R.O. water can be successfully and optimally done? (At home, and under what ideal circumstances, etc.) Thanks for any insights.
Or even: other product recommendations, ... aside from the Aussie Drops?
I can't recommend any products because we haven't tested any yet. But based on our research, you are right that calcium and magnesium are most important to restore - not for taste but for health reasons. The WHO recommends optimum Mg level at 20-30 mg/L (ppm) and for Ca it's ~50 mg/L (ppm). It looks like the drops you mentioned have plenty of Mg but no Ca.
As for taste, I think sodium and potassium are pretty important here, too, but I'm no expert in this.
Sorry, I'm not sure if this answer is helpful at all but I don't want to make any false claims before we have some hard data.
Water drop offers a re-mineralization filter you can plumb into some of their models. I believe this is one of them.
Hello, great video, but in the google sheet I see total bacteria score of >1600 cfu/mL with a EPA Limits of 500 cfu/mL, could you elaborate about that and eventual risks?
Sure thing. As soon as you take the disinfectant (chlorine/chloramine) out of the water, total bacteria count goes up because these bacteria can now actually survive in the water. We see that with every water filter we test. That said, this is not a health concern - total bacteria count is used to check the overall condition of a water supply, in other words making sure that it's being properly disinfected. These are bacteria that live everywhere around us. But only certain types of bacteria can be harmful such as E. Coli. However, E. Coli etc. won't just magically appear in your water because you take out the chlorine. It must have been there before filtration. Hope this helps!
Hi @@boswater6065, Would adding a post-UV filter make any difference to the bacteria count?
@martincets8334 It would, at least temporarily. What I mean by that is UV light destroys bacteria, but it doesn't have any lasting effect so that when the water leaves the UV chamber and isn't exposed to the UV light any longer, it might recontaminate if there are any bacteria downstream of the UV stage. It would be really interesting to test this actually, but as far as I know this would require a sterile environment and so this isn't something we can do right now.
@@boswater6065 So you can state that this filter is safe and the problem with those chemicals found in the other filter you made a video about is not a problem that concerns this filter right?
@l-suffro Exactly - always assuming that our test data is accurate, which we believe it is.
Is PFAS tested for in lab tests? How did this perform? What’s the latest understanding of how many different types of forever chemicals are in our water? I know Teflon and durable water repellent are rampant in our water systems and don’t break down (hence being a forever chemical). This stuff fascinates and terrifies me. Thanks for your hard work!!
No, we don't test for PFAS simply because it is extremely expensive. Hopefully we can include it in future. Good news is, PFAS are relatively easy to remove for example using activated carbon which all RO systems that I know include.
Can you please tell more about the pump noise? Is the unit only making the noise when in use or does it occasionally turn on/off to drain water as some reviews on Amazon say. Thank you
Yes, the system features auto-flushing and for that it has to activate the pump. The system will flush automatically, 1.) if there was a power outage 2.) after 2 hours of accumulative working time 3.) 5 minutes after you've dispensed water 4.) and I also believe after 12 hours of non-use. As such, it makes sense to fill a large container a few times a day rather than small glasses which we definitely should have mentioned in the video.
What about the alminum in simpure, Is it concerning?
It is extremely low (20 times less than the strictest health guideline we could find), so we are not really worried.
What was the contradiction found in their website. Thank you.
It was about the different filter layers and their arrangement. But it looks like this has been resolved.
Is it possible to get varying water filters for the same system. Like one time you might not find any contamination then new filters could leach chemicals?
Absolutely, yes.
Can the Waterdrop g3p600 be hardwired under the kitchen sink for a house that does not have an under sink outlet?
I think it's best if you reach out to Waterdrop about this.
How does it compare to the G2P600?
We haven't tested the G2P600 yet.
Does the California propostion warning 65 mean
the product with this warning does not nessirally contain harmful chemical
As far as I understand, the warning has to be added in case any of the substances on the list are contained in the product. And because it's a really long list some manufacturers simply add the warning just in case, because it is impossible for them to test their products against all these substances.
Does it remove lead from the water?
There is no lead in our water so we couldn't test, and there is no NSF certification for lead either. That said, reverse osmosis in general is highly effective at reducing lead.
Does it remove arsenic?
@ChantyMarieVlogs Same as with lead - arsenic isn't in our water and the G3P600 isn't certified for arsenic reduction, but RO in general is highly effective at reducing arsenic.
I went to order this system and when I tried to combine the current sale with your 5% off code, it wouldn’t accept it. When I contacted the company, they said that you cannot combine codes.
Is there someone specific that we should talk to? I’m disappointed that it didn’t work the way that it was advertised here. 😕
Sorry about the confusion. So you don't need to combine any codes. You just need to use one code (our code). However, it looks like Waterdrop forgot to update our code to match the current G3P600/X12 sale. In other words, our code is still for the old sale. But we've reached out to Waterdrop about this and hopefully they will fix this very soon.
This has been fixed!
@@boswater6065still not working for Black Friday. Just tried the code they do not stack 😢
@@boswater6065 Thank you for making informative video. Was considering the K6 model as we are tea drinkers but the review was not as good as the G3P600. I tried your G3P600 discount code but looks like it doesn't during the Black Friday sales.
@samsizzle89 I just confirmed with Waterdrop and you are right - our codes don't work during Black Friday season unfortunately. Sorry about that!
Why wasnt aluminum tested for?
It was tested for but it wasn't in the feed water.
Hi can you please test waterdrop X series system. Thanks
We've tested the X12: ruclips.net/video/2lVPi2g0VGI/видео.html
What is the high rating for zinc in the Cloud RO? I'm confused about that one. Thanks for your help.
Zinc is only an aesthetic impurity so not really something to worry about. Our best guess is that is was added by the remineralization filter.
Hi, thanks for your video! Could you recommend best post alkaline/mineralisation cartridge? Is there any lab tested ??
Thanks
You're welcome! We can't make any recommendations yet because those that we've tested so far didn't really meet our expectations.
@@boswater6065could you elaborate further about those expectations?
@shemazar We couldn't find a lot of research on this but the WHO recommends a certain level for both magnesium and calcium in drinking water and none of the remineralization filters we tested could reach those levels - far from it in many cases!
Is every tankless OR system has a pressure pump in them ? If yes can I use this tankless system if my water flow pressure is high? I just don't understand and iwould like some explanation on that please
As far as I know, yes, every tankless RO has a pressure pump. That's because they need to speed up the filtration process because they filter water on demand. Do you mean you have high pressure in your home? This is no problem.
thanks for the explanation that was awesome from you💙💙👍
So after 6 months the filter is really bad, or that's just their manufacture recommendation? Because I believe we only use about 150 gallons a year currently with our current 5 gallon water jug situation.
They say: "Provides up to 6 months or 550 gallons of clean water". So if you're only using 150 gallons a year, I think you should be fine using the filter longer than 6 months. The other carbon filter stage is rated at 12 months or 1,100 gallons so maybe replace both once a year.
Will you test the Delta/Brizo and ISpring RO undersink systems in the near future?....
We will definitely test an iSpring system but probably not in the near future.
Iam still missing some info here Did any of the RO systems leeched o-xylene or p+m xylenes i looked again and again for really long time to the filtration results i still can't find it ,so you do tell me since you see it while I can't ,,,,also are you going to test under sink non RO systems and fridge inline filters any soon please add those to your list🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
You can find that information in the Google Sheet > Filtration Results tab > and then checking each of the lab reports linked at the top. Anyway, no o-xylene or p+m xylenes leaching based on our testing. Yes, we will test "regular" under sink water filters asap. With fridge filters we are not so sure. Do you mean filters that go into the fridge (into its filter compartment) or generic filters that sit between the feed water valve and the fridge?
so exciting that you have under sink water filter lab testing project asap ,,,please include express water filter
(StreamLine Direct connection ) and express 3 stage
with the fridge,i meant the generic ones that sits between the feed water valve and the fridge and can remove as much as it can from the unwanted contaminants.💙 thanks for always showing your commitment to your job👏👏👏
Yes water drop filters inside the fridge from all latest brands like Whirlpool, LG, Samsung, etc. they are just carbon block filters.
@@boswater6065I would love to hear about the inline filters that go in between a fridge and the wall. I’ve seen a few companies making these and saying ow great they are but I haven’t found an in depth analysis
@screwydrewy7027 Thanks for suggesting! I've added it to our list.
Are we going to see a review on the newest addition to waterdrop the x16?
Hi,
I've been looking into reverse osmosis water systems and this one seems the most appealing.
However when I saw the lab results for the A2 over the counter Waterdrop system it made me worry about this one. I did see the results and it didn't mention any added chemicals (unlike the a2)
But my question is, why when I try to purchase this system on Amazon, I get a big prop 65 warning. I know basically everything in California has this warning, but why was this one of the only RO system that had the prop 65 warning on it. (For example the aquatru systems did not give me a prop65 cancer causing warning.
Thanks in advance. Love the in-depth videos and just subscribed!
I have to admit that I'm not super familiar with the topic (meaning Prop 65). But I found this interesting article: www.aquatell.ca/blogs/aquatell/understanding-california-proposition-65 - it basically says that there are currently more than 900 chemicals on the Prop 65 list that a company would be required to test for which would be extremely expensive and difficult. The article then says that "Instead of businesses having their products tested to ensure compliance, they've opted to just label everything as a risk to avoid the expense of testing, and to avoid any legal liability." So maybe that's the case with the Waterdrop G3P600, but this is just a guess. On the other hand, I highly doubt that all other water filters that don't show a Prop 65 warning are properly tested to comply with Prop 65.
@@boswater6065 thank you for your response!
I saw this warning propostion 65 in Apec water filter company booklet as well @boswater6065
A more reliable indicator of the noisiness or noise levels of RO systems would be their measure in decibels during operation.
Also the websites are not really clear on the pure to drain ratio (how of of pure water is generated per gallon of wasted water or how much of water is wasted to produce a gallon on pure water).
Instead of dumping the waste water down the drain, if there is some kind of a provision to empty this onto a rain-waster/waste water collection system for use in gardens, it would be a more welcome feature
Agreed about measuring noisiness in decibels! The google sheets list a pure-to-drain ratio, for example 1:0.75 meaning if you produce 1 gallon of pure water you will also produce 0.75 gallons wastewater.
Why didn't you test the Water-e-store HUM Water Saver 75 gpd RO System With Remineralization???
No reason in particular.
Does the X12 leech cancer causing chemicals?
Not according to our testing.
Can you pleaseeee do lab test to the APEC Tankless RO 3-Stage Water Filter System ROTL-600 - Premium Reverse Osmosis next since it is tankless version I don't have any premium lab test like tap score where i live
Thanks. I've added it to our list!
Would you personally get this system ?
I'm currently using the AquaTru Classic, but yes.
@@boswater6065what do you like about AquaTru unit? Can I get a model # please 😊
It's really just called the AquaTru Classic. Maybe check our countertop RO comparison video (ruclips.net/video/-W65jKwcE2w/видео.html) or our countertop water filter comparison video (ruclips.net/video/QwJauKAFZBY/видео.html). What we like most about the AquaTru Classic is definitely its NSF certifications.
So... why there's so many complaints that people in the UK or EU can't get CF filter replacements? Only 1 year warranty for £$€500+ indicates Waterdrop don't stand behind their own product. If it was 2 or 3 years then it would mean they believe it's good enough and should last a decent while.
You are right, 2 or 3 years warranty would be better than 1, although a 1-year warranty is pretty common even at that price point. I don't know what the issue is with CF filter replacements in the UK/EU.
@@boswater6065 There's a lot of people complaining in the EU/UK that the system becomes useless due to no availability of filters when it's time to replace. Some say they wait for months for delivery and/or have to pay $75 for shipment from the US.
Also, I was shocked to read reviews stating that Waterdrop 15UA filtering system has written on it's box it CAN CAUSE CANCER or BIRTH DEFECTS?!! Some people on Amazon returned them immediately after spotting this small print on the box... unbelievable.
I'm assuming than note is a Prop 65 warning which doesn't necessarily mean anything (see www.aquatell.ca/blogs/aquatell/understanding-california-proposition-65). Also the Waterdrop G3P600 is certified against NSF standard 58 meaning it was also tested for material safety. Of course, you can never be 100% certain but this is about as good as it gets.
@@boswater6065 hmm... if there's a small print on a box stating CAN CAUSE CANCER OR BIRTH DEFECTS that means a lot to me hence am not buying products that supposed to protect or improve my health and can do the opposite. We've had a similar one before i.e. Teflon from Due Pont that they claimed was absolutely safe and it took 20 years to prove it was causing same health issues.
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Hi @BOS Water This reverse osmosis filter does it have water remineralization?
The G3P600 can be purchased with an optional remineralization stage.
I’m not sure you can actually give a wastewater ratio without taking into account the auto-flush functions. From my experience after a week, there’s an auto-flush about five minutes after essentially each use of the faucet (unless it comes within five minutes of the last use). Each of these flushes create about 1L of wastewater - regardless of how much water you have dispensed. Which means for an 8oz glass of water on demand, you could possibly generate 36oz of waste water. This is not even close to .75 gallons waste to 1 gal clean.
I think you can give a wastewater ratio, but we should have also quantified the amount wasted during flushing.
@@boswater6065without the waste from the flushes, it’s a pretty misleading ratio. Either way the flush water should be shared by Waterdrop as this absolutely impacts calculations for those for whom wasted water matters.
From you expertise, can you explain why a post use flush is needed - after every use? The system can go 12 hours without flushing, so the water I’m drinking isn’t changing. Why does it have to flush post-dispense? What’s the purpose?
Agreed. Great question. I would assume it's used to clean the RO membrane.
@@boswater6065 Reply from manufacturer is that this is not a necessary feature, but it does help to balance the water on either side of the RO membrane, whatever that means. The G2 model does not have this "feature". Reading between the lines, I might assume this has been added to the G3 because they now have a TDS readout and it is easier to waste this water to keep the readout consisten than explaining to people that the TDS reading will fluctuate with use because of how a tankless system works. Either way, this "feature" disqualifies it for me. I purchased the system in large part because of your review, and I think it's fair to suggest that your review should make people aware of this highly wasteful practice in the G3 series.
You are probably right about the issue with the TDS display. Yes, I already agreed to that suggestion above. Edit: We're sorry that you made your purchase largely based on our review which didn't quantify the amount of water wasted during auto-flushing. We will make sure to do better next time!
Wondering about the G2 varieties? They’re so similar, hoping that means mine is safe? 😭🫶
No idea since we haven't tested. :/
is this brand dropping cancer causing material into the filtered water?
It was this brand, but specifically the waterdrop over the counter one, I believe it was the A2 one.
However in this report it didn't mention anything being added, aside from a bit more iron than the pre-filtered water.
Yes, it was for Waterdrop, but we didn't detect any chemical leaching with the G3P600.
@@boswater6065did the lab test for the same carcinogenic chemicals? Thanks for your evidence based hard work. Fan for life!!
@samsizzle89 Yes, we always test each system for the exact same chemicals.
@@boswater6065that’s scary, hopefully the lab test were accurate. I’m getting this one and would rather not want the cancer chemicals lol
Great video! Could you please review the Bluevua RO100ROPOT-Lite(UV) model in one of your future videos? I’m really interested in hearing your thoughts on its performance and lab test. Thanks!
Thanks! This one is already on our list.
What about Dichloromethane as with the other waterdrop product?
Not found.
@@boswater6065 Would that also be true for the G3P800?
We haven't tested the G3P800 so I can't say.
Are we going to see a review on the newest addition to waterdrop the x16?
I've added it to our list. Thank you!