When the sharing of power is discussed, why there is no points concluded regarding the limitation imposed on meiteis to inhibitate in hilly areas while the rest could come and reside in the valley at their will. WHY THIS IS NOT ADDRESSED
We Nagas from the state of Assam, Arunanchal, Nagas of Manipur, Nagas of Nagaland, Nagas of Burma should be come together, meet together, and exchanged together for every three years.
In Manipur hill development fund are went directly to NSCM IM pocket. And now most of the Hill regions people are all saying no development on hill at all. Now Stop blaming to Manipur Government. 🙏 And also ,most of the corrupted Hill social activist group are repeated us words again and again,they lead the innocent hill PPL wrongly,really.
@@paulz_san some nscl io members apprehended by NIA for fund looting from ADC tamenglong, ADC members also apprehended for helping in fund looting for nscl io, in the news recently
This is quite false, no. Don't say like that. Don't become enemies by your words... We need to be friend. Consider one another as right. Don't treat in such other way by the words. We don't have of such mind in us like that. Whether Manipur government would like to help the Naga people or not. That doesn't matter. We are Nagas. So, we claimed ourselves as Nagas from time immemorial... Right?
This is for Dr Xavier Mao. Kukis living in Nagaland are not recognised as one of the Nagas tribes. There are 14 recognised Naga tribe in Nagaland and there are four Recognised Schedule tribes of Nagaland, they are Kuki, Kacharis, Garo and Mikirs. These four tribes although indegenous to nagaland cannot be recognised as one of the Naga tribes in Nagaland. So kukis living in nagaland are kukis and not nagas.
Yes, Kukis are also correct, they must have their own freedom. Kukis are also Christian and Nagas are also Christian in God's family. Therefore, we shall love each other. We are not enemies by the way. Kukis are kind hearted people in every where they are. Kukis are good people....
LP Haokip, come to Kohima and let's meet up at PR hill to clear your confusion if Nagaland Nagas consider Manipur Nagas as Nagas or not. Do not speak like you are the creator of Nagaland. Enough of your venom. Kuki will soon face music in Nagaland too
Mr Mao...recently angami people had beaten ur Mao people and not letting enter Nagaland...right?😂 And we gave market to Mao people. And now u eating from manipur...speaking for Nagaland. THIBONG NA MANIPUR GI CHARAGA WAA NA NAGALAND NGANGBA...thuii
Meitei are a gud ppl to their courtyards like some kilometers within Manipur. CM is very hard working for unity but some people like you break down to aspirations of some outlook people with your egos and pride
@@lydiakamei2284 meetei r good people sunce ancient time n they r bot only goid at their court yard they has been goiod outside of their kingdom historically so don't show off ur jealousy here n finally there is no naga in manipur thank u !!
Mao is very good on talking nonsense. He just recites his hatred to a specific community without any reasons. He is not qualified for such an important discussion or debate.
Very interesting debate. My Hats off to all the penalists (Nagas leaders) who stood for Nagas rights in this live debate. Some of the points which Mr. Haoki gave are very balanced and acceptable. But why on earth UNC declined to represent us in this most crucial moment?
RN Ravi has put a stop to the endless peace talk tea party because he cant afford to buy any more tea. Tea is finish, but nscl io is insisting that they want a new interlocutor who will buy tea for them and hold tea party every now and then
If naga want to integrate their community than its better to transfer naga to nagaland not ask for land in Manipur again and again ,simply the idea is nagaland is really forcing Manipur integrety to be torn off,So therefore it conclude that they want land
Is thier any history that manipuri is only valley during partition so now u people want to make it verbally it doesn't consider as wat u said if u really want to integrate your people you should tranfer to ur mainland nagaland not to ask any other piece of land from Manipur the simple is that u want to break down the state so as to include in nagaland logic is concluded here
When will the Indian leaders/people's realize and solve the birth right of Naga solution. We the people of Manipur support the peace movement of Nagas sovereignty integrity.
There are a lot of Meitei people inhabited outside Manipur like Cachar Hailakandi, Karimgang, Hojai, Lanka, Sibsagar of Assam, Tripura, Mayanmar, Bangladesh and so on. Here what I want to say is by making integration can we demand a separate Meitei sovereignty state means Greater Manipur like the way Nagas are doing ? Huh
Now let me tell u a story..a cow was stuck on a pond people help cow to bring up and finally sucess cow sucesfully out of pond and then unfortunately the cow start attack to people who help him ......😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
The funny thing is Meiteis want to deligitimise the Naga identity and would prefer to use the many Tribe names instead of the collective Name Naga. However when it comes to the issue of land they'd like to refer to the hill people as a homogeneous group who occupies some 80% of the land area.
The name of Naga is given by the British at the beginning of the 1900s.., shame on u... u don't have the brain to name your own collective name. There is no historical interaction, similarity among the tribes of Nagaland and Manipur. But, there is a binding of culturally, religion, many solidarities and depended are among the Valley and Hilly people. Do some research on this and then argued.
Naga is pseudo identity...different languages , different tradition and dress. Anyone even bihari nepali can become naga based on loose similarities on food, traditions and living style. That is all.
One meitei is enough for all others...we don't give a shit...in the field of education we meiteis are one of the forerunners in the north east, in the field of sports we too r there in the the front.....understand it my north east brothers....
Anal ,maring ,Aimol, clothe tribe's etc. we were never old Kuki.,how meitei n kukis can say simply without knowing anything that we are old kuki,,we Anal,maring etc tribe's our languages,names n traditional totally difference from kukis,v were just close neighbors .....this is a bad policies from cocomi and kukis...
Hhahahha in the history of north east their is no naga kingdom..... U nagas were a part of ahom kingdom..... And nagaland came out of nowhere.... Remember one thing in this modern world it's impossible for one community to live under one umbrella...
Meitei respect each and every entities of our rich diverse communities. Here in this debate, we didn't mention Anal population belong to old Kuki. Mr Haokip is the one who conceived it. Don't assume everything for anything without proper listening the whole debate.
There are many things that we can bargain for in life, but there are also certain things which we must not even dare to attempt lest we be totally disappointed.... Like wanting the sun to cast it's rays only on our roof top and leave the rest of the neighborhood in utter darkness.
Khuraijam Athouba claiming that larger Naga communities are suppressing the smaller Naga communities and 'they' (Meiteis) are trying to accommodate this smaller Naga communities to give rational share and privilege, clearly stated the intention of the Meiteis to create hatred and division among the Naga communities. Let us keep aside the issues of autonomy for the Nagas of Manipur vis-a-vis GoI and NSCN talks and delimitation for a while, Athouba please answer, why do the Meiteis opposed the 6th scheduled for the hills peoples of Manipur? why Meiteis are opposing the democratic rights of the hills peoples?
Yes it is true...bigger tribes of manipur are suppressing smaller tribes..we need to classify tribes into backward and forward tribes just like nagaland do
Everyone has Right, but one should also remember that every right granted is followed by DUTY, Respecting each other is the only SOLUTION for All, Only naga should decide their future...superb✌️.. But the big question is ... Can They...?
"Are ya Hittin' on Naga right now?" Remember every of this difference political groups or intellectual got the right to speak the truth and fact 'bout the peace movement of Naga solution! Peace & freedom is available to those who learn 'bout it and work for it Don't let yesterday use up too much of today. Honors early solution so that we all can live peacefully 😋
Dr Xavier Mao last comment saying china can uses Nagas fighter to disturb indian govt was really funny. From which university does he got his PhD i doubt.😁
Mr. Mao, now your dream is shattered and your loud mouth has been silenced by your pseudo brethrens, beating you up black and blue, even restricting your movements, all because you failed to recognize who you are. Your ocean of learning and the acquired knowledge is in vain, Alas! Same goes for rest of the panelist as well who tried to distord history and disturb the peaceful coexistence in the entire region.
Government must stop all these ST SC n all at once and regard everyone equal and help it's underprivileged citizens irrespective of caste Creed colour region etc. And those who consider themselves special sit at home and enjoy subsidised Rice, LPG, Indra Awas yojna, Bridha pension. Too much politics has made this country poor. A large sum of people rely heavily on full time politics and easy money. Wake up my country people nobody is privileged or underestimated if taken birth as a Human than live like a HUMANE. Thanks
If north east was never integrated to India, There would not be any Nagaland. It was born due to india's favour to them. N u says that india is a threat to u. 😂😂😂😂 i'm not in favour of india. I'm just laying the truth
@@sayonbi9924 Its torture when ya trynna be serious! We make the law; they break the law/? -- that's the headspace and mindset of Indian leaders. Did anybody hear the sayin' "love thy neighbour"? Can ya elaborate, evidently ya have some secret knowledge 'bout the India, please share it with us.?"!
Where is the Meitei n tangkhul naga community in manipur,,they formed an organisation call Federation of Haomee.. they always attack the kuki,,now the cocomi leader n naga hoho leader are arguing...where is the federation of Haomee go n make peace n understanding between ur leader
It's very unfortunate to lived in Manipur that every daily essential commodities imported are taxed by NSCM IM,this is too much. This are unlawful activities but India Government are also keep watching from the last decade...they never take actions against this Underground terrorist group,NSCM IM. People of Manipur kept hoped that our Manipur Government will take action soon into this matter. Else PPL we suffer more due to rised in prices.🙏🙏
You can say whatever you want, but the integration will NOT be happening. The Home Minister clearly stated that. Meiteis are inhabited not only in Manipur but also in Assam and even in Myanmar. If Meiteis & Kukis demand the same then it will ba a total chaos.
Clear statements from Mr Athouba👍👍👍👍.....Actually the rest penalists were talking about irresponsible matters i think they just talked on their imagination not on facts...That's y The NorthEast Live invited 4 Nagas n 1 Meitei as well bcoz they know that 4Nagas VS Athouba Meitei alone is enough to debate
First of all get your fact checked boomer! This half knowledge thing is the very reason why there's problems in our region. Don't get opinionated before knowing the facts. Can you see 4 nagas in the panel?
@@ykeishing6896 We obviously take Kuki as a part of Nagas Even the Naga people have claimed that the kuki tribes are part of Naga...I'm not saying this juz see on Naga's reports
I think you missed out other Manipuri news channel especially impactTV where one particular anchor sometime seemingly forget his position being an anchor and take sides all of a sudden,you can experience all his emotion when it comes to naga issue.
Hahahaha Comparing Anal and Angami? 😄😄😄 COCOMI, who are you to talk about Anal tribes when they themselves want to live with Nagas? Why don't want to talk about Mao, Maram, Poumai, Naga affinity with Nagaland, as said, there is no Manipur Nagas? 😀😀😀
Katcha naga is what Nagaland people called to manipuri nagas. They Nagalang people dont want to join with these nagas of manipur most important thing... Not delay, this not be possible
You are opposed to anything that tribes do in Manipur...who created that false census...your community is the one that dominated the census data collection... everything was done at the behest of the dominant group's interest
Did u allow census team to count the really no. People in your family,and you people got special ST cota but in valley they didnot have it ,in 30% u people can get job and any admission in any field but for valley its above 60% if the valley region condemned to remove this system u know wat the result you people should be face, that professor in this talk show i garanteed that the intellectual score for him is flop it show when he reply to the anchor Questions with no related ans And barking like anything that valley people make us supressed and all realy funny thought of mind you people have.And lastly if some tries to steal or take ur land property wat you will do mind that
Manipur was a kingdom of 2000 years. It will be as it is. Any disturbance to it's administration is not acceptable. Lots of community groups are inhabiting together. It is just like mini India.
I agree to Mr Haokip.... there shud be equal representation in the assembly and equal development of the state.... At the same time, there shud be equal sharing of land and resources of the state be it hills or valley amongst the ethnic communities.... 10% valley for everyone though mostly occupied by meiteis where 90% exclusively for tribals is also unfair.... Both the tribals and Meiteis are required to make sacrifices on their sides .... it is also time to focus more on how the state n its people can prosper.... but as long as we are stuck with ethnic politics, we r goin nowhere
Dr. Mao's clearification of Meiteis' enjoying lion's share in State Assembly and their manipulations in different fields e, g manipulations in educational admissions, Govt. job recruitments, CSSs' delayed/ twisted implementations, etc. could be highly justified. Mr.Elu Ndang & Mr Theja Therie are upright to say that Nagas deserve to be integrated into single administrative-unit to live as an honourable race and Meiteis had been obstacles for Nagas in Manipur to live as respectable hill people. Mr. Athouba's desperate utterance of Nagas' aspiration as just political ambition could be teaching of senior Meiteis and his Meitei-protective-arguments are humourous.
U forgot to mention, meiteis alone are paying tax. While tribals are exempted from income tax. So right...meitei got lion share in terms of paying tax.
@@peterzimik6411 but there is no naga in manipur. How will there be a separate naga administration in manipur? If anyone wants to become naga, then they can go to nagaland.
Whatever be the case there is a need for Kukis and Nagas of Manipur to stop the hatred and time to find common ground. Nothing will be handed on a silver plate. No ethnic group is a Saint. It is just human nature to look out for our own interest and try to dominate the rest. Peace and stability would come only when each group has enough political and economic power and when everyone respects the other.
All the Nagas, the simple solution is that if you want naga go to your state (Nagaland) only that will bring tha solution. There is no land for naga in manipur.
Intresting topic worth listening. appreciat Mr haokip thoughts.you made your point. I think the crux of all this issue roll out of control due to certain section of people blindness towards disproportionate fund allocation and development.going through the gist of this discussion my instinct says that kukis will not hasitate to have a territorial council or separate administration if given a chance.I feel athouba should not try to sabotage the facts Mr Xavier pointed out what is the real apprehension for meities.But fortunate or unfortunately he has also taken some blunt but hard blows from panels around the corner.when you talk but forget about lion share,for a simply reason to get a basic idea u go throught the name of the numerous valley based CSO in many of them you will come across prestigious "all Manipur ''tag to their name but also don't forget to do the home work that how many of such all Manipur organization have run the cause of the minority or particularly for the hills Or how many active member in the organization belongs to another community other than meities. Well I appreciate athaoba stand on fair head count and the yes nod on delimitation. Ellu and theja had deal so well with other panelist on their part.appreciate both of your solid answers,bitter truths and sticking to the point tooth and nail. Once again Mr Haokip approach could be a pressure valve.looking you forward in this talks.
The so called nagas in nagaland be happy of what you have don't try to steal others land or rights or what so ever. History cannot be repeated many times think of better ideas regarding Co esistance. Nagas dose t have 3 eyes you should understand it. Fait up of hearing nagas issues
Crow self proclaimed as a peacock by using the peacock feathers. Coated gold is self claimed as a pure gold because the outer surface is covered with gold. Duplicate or kacha self claimed as a original brand. But the original brand laughing at the duplicate or kacha as a shameless people just like a naked people in the globe. Original naga of Nagaland always laughing at the duplicate or kacha Naga from other states except Nagaland naga
Yes agreed prof. Mao why not if goi keep playing Naga's inspiration, we ll fight back with external forces to fullfil our desire. The last option left bravo Kuknalim.
Will be appreciate if Include UNC president in this panel... Nagas never and will never give up... Untill and unless our aspiration,our forefather aspiration is achive...... Xavier moa has clearly stated in the last minutes why integration is the basic ingredient to naga solution... Solution is to work out by the GOI and not by any others.
There is no naga in Manipur actually I never heard naga I know Tangkhul,mao,anal,kabui,etc...but muivah discovered all the tribes as new naga but naga community in nagaland never except it they were Porter's in British time and now they were militants of northeast
@@1msubscriberdontwatchit945 10 minute silence for those who think naga is an ethnic.😂😂 Anyone can become naga...no common language,culture,dress. It is confirmed by ur naga panelist also.
Meitei king surrender to shantidas ghosai if the king stand for sanaleibak/manipur that time maybe nagas and meitei aspiration may similar but metei want to differentiate from tribal/Hao people, so it's different now dont try to bring us together again. sweep your own compound first before sweeping others(meitei proverb)
Quite the interesting topic, one unconventional utopian solution that comes to mind is that Kuki's(Zomi, Mizos, Hmars etc. included), Meitei's and Nagas be given an equal proportion of represantatives in the State legislative assembly regardless of their population size, and each sub-community within the said Kuki-Meitei-Naga communities be given an equal amount of seats within their respective community (Eg. Same amount of seats for Thadou-Kukis, Zous and Paites etc. for the Kuki community, same amount of seats for Maos, Tangkhuls, Rongmeis etc. for the Naga community, same amount of seats for Meitei's, Pangals etc.). This I feel would induce a more inclusive and proportionate rate of development for the different communities as well as regions within the state of Manipur, something similar to what Singapore has done for the Chinese-Malay-Tamil communities. Feel free to correct or improve upon this idea.
Dude... As I say... Representation based on ethnic lines are long gone and dangerous. Eg. Africa, erstwhile yugoslavia and I hope u already know about germany and swastikas..
@@pavelningthoujam3166 Indeed representation based on subjugating other ethnicities is a danger, but this is the opposite of what I have envisioned. A harmonious society based on 'equal' representation is what I am talking about, not autocratic or dictatorial like the examples you've provided.
@@paulz_san ofcourse demarcation and integration based on administrative convenience is a good idea.... But on ethnicity...its bad. It's disintegration... It breaks unity... Soon... It will further disintegrate..even among the naga tribes... And thn so on.
@@pavelningthoujam3166 So you mean to say that the equal representation each of the communities will be getting will lead to more disunity than what is present now?
The speaker that represent cocom should speak something that makes sense. Complete denying the existence of Nagas in Manipur is none sense. Nobody will buy it. This is just a rhetoric, no one is going to take seriously.
Last date of form submission for becoming naga had already been notified by the govt of nagaland, those naga living here and there in manipur should submit the form else it will be too late. Nagaland govt has pause the process for some reason or maybe because of pressure from some people
I appreciate the Kuki representative... He knows the history.. They are to have their right to own their land.. 👍
Hhhh&hhnn.
When the sharing of power is discussed, why there is no points concluded regarding the limitation imposed on meiteis to inhibitate in hilly areas while the rest could come and reside in the valley at their will. WHY THIS IS NOT ADDRESSED
Northeast Live's 90% budget goes in talking about Naga issues.😂
Coz it's the oldest and most important topic in Northeast I guess
@@Ren_Kichu777 Yet nothing comes out of any of these talkshows. Most people are repeatitive and parrot their known stands.
@@MaharnabBaruah takei tu. Amar asomote dekhun kiman talk show kori thake eku kaame nhoi
If Indo Naga issue is resolved, 90% of the NE political issue will be resolved.
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We Nagas from the state of Assam, Arunanchal, Nagas of Manipur, Nagas of Nagaland, Nagas of Burma should be come together, meet together, and exchanged together for every three years.
Hahaahhahahha
@@rickmeitei4396 meitei spotted
One of my naga friend is in the US... Wen he gets married and have more kids.... NSCN will demand land😀. Cuz only nagas will decide for nagas... 😀
@@pavelningthoujam3166 we are not like who run and declared small area as independent
When a country doesn't respect the sovereignty and integrity! Then all options must be kept open;)
In Manipur hill development fund are went directly to NSCM IM pocket. And now most of the Hill regions people are all saying no development on hill at all. Now Stop blaming to Manipur Government. 🙏
And also ,most of the corrupted Hill social activist group are repeated us words again and again,they lead the innocent hill PPL wrongly,really.
In Manipur, politics and insurgency go hand in hand, don't defend the Govt. of Manipur in this regard.
@@paulz_san some nscl io members apprehended by NIA for fund looting from ADC tamenglong, ADC members also apprehended for helping in fund looting for nscl io, in the news recently
And mouthpiece organization of nscl io will blame the meiteis, they are the scourge of northeast, particularly in nagaland and in manipur also
This is quite false, no. Don't say like that. Don't become enemies by your words... We need to be friend. Consider one another as right. Don't treat in such other way by the words. We don't have of such mind in us like that. Whether Manipur government would like to help the Naga people or not. That doesn't matter. We are Nagas. So, we claimed ourselves as Nagas from time immemorial... Right?
This is for Dr Xavier Mao.
Kukis living in Nagaland are not recognised as one of the Nagas tribes. There are 14 recognised Naga tribe in Nagaland and there are four Recognised Schedule tribes of Nagaland, they are Kuki, Kacharis, Garo and Mikirs. These four tribes although indegenous to nagaland cannot be recognised as one of the Naga tribes in Nagaland.
So kukis living in nagaland are kukis and not nagas.
Yes, Kukis are also correct, they must have their own freedom. Kukis are also Christian and Nagas are also Christian in God's family. Therefore, we shall love each other. We are not enemies by the way. Kukis are kind hearted people in every where they are. Kukis are good people....
Needs to have this kind of debate and discussion to make people understand.👍👍👍👍
The bitter truth:Manipur Naga are not considered Naga by people of Nagaland.
Traitor don't accept them as Naga
But the patriotic know that there is no kacha and paka Naga....
LP Haokip, come to Kohima and let's meet up at PR hill to clear your confusion if Nagaland Nagas consider Manipur Nagas as Nagas or not.
Do not speak like you are the creator of Nagaland.
Enough of your venom.
Kuki will soon face music in Nagaland too
@Morung_media Good answer bro.Kuknalim.
Manipuri self proclaimed nagas r caring too much for nagas in Nagaland though Nagaland nagas pay nill attention to them
So what's your problem??
Without the land of nagas meiteis lands are very very small.
@@tonyhawk6280 too true..... 🤣🤣🤣
Cocomi is only working for matei itself not for all
exactly
True👍
Coordinate committee of meitei👍👍😂
Kukis in nagaland were never recognize as naga.. where ever we are ...we are always kukis even in other countries like Burma, Bangladesh...
False, written records have it that Kukis were recognized as Nagas. I'm not saying that you are a Naga, but you can't go against factual history.
Mr Mao...recently angami people had beaten ur Mao people and not letting enter Nagaland...right?😂
And we gave market to Mao people.
And now u eating from manipur...speaking for Nagaland.
THIBONG NA MANIPUR GI CHARAGA WAA NA NAGALAND NGANGBA...thuii
U enjoyed fund of hills speaking like hero...nathubung na mayang charaga
namaste & khurumjiri🙏
watching frum maharashtra🇮🇳
i support mr.athouba
what a great man? he is alone enough for all of them..
meiteis are very gud ppl
Meitei are a gud ppl to their courtyards like some kilometers within Manipur.
CM is very hard working for unity but some people like you break down to aspirations of some outlook people with your egos and pride
@@lydiakamei2284 meetei r good people sunce ancient time n they r bot only goid at their court yard they has been goiod outside of their kingdom historically so don't show off ur jealousy here n finally there is no naga in manipur thank u !!
Till the end of the World there will be no Peace on earth so, all of you Be careful and love each other and believe the living God. 😓
100 percent true. It's a never ending story.
We need more people like you
" thou shalt have no other gods" nor graven images.
1meitei panelist is enough for 3wanabe nagas panelist.
Proffesor mao u are very good
He is a byproduct of nepotism and govt. reservation. He is demanding more for his own tribe only.
@@undoc755 lol.. When did he mention his own tribe?
Mao is very good on talking nonsense. He just recites his hatred to a specific community without any reasons. He is not qualified for such an important discussion or debate.
🙏 Namaskar from MahaRashtra
Solve issues peacefully
Namaskar ,Jai Bolenath-Shiva Shambu
Very interesting debate. My Hats off to all the penalists (Nagas leaders) who stood for Nagas rights in this live debate. Some of the points which Mr. Haoki gave are very balanced and acceptable.
But why on earth UNC declined to represent us in this most crucial moment?
UNC is must to present on this talk
may be they thought their invented history is irrelevent in this dabate.
@@chenche7575 Those peddling preposterous lies will be prosecuted
RN Ravi
This issue is a never ending story. This will end only when the mother earth sleeps forever.
RN Ravi has put a stop to the endless peace talk tea party because he cant afford to buy any more tea. Tea is finish, but nscl io is insisting that they want a new interlocutor who will buy tea for them and hold tea party every now and then
Athouba you are only one good leader for us ,We proud of you born as a people of Manipuri.Please stop separate entities or any seperate land
If India solved Naga Solution Or Naga freedom at the earliest. Naga can decide their own future. There is no problem.
Kuki guy and NTC guy is ths most rational, realistic among the guest👍👍👍
All the others are just barking bullshits🤣
Thank you for the show.
Mr Athouba alone has hammered all those brainless fools. Mr Athouba convinced the world what the truth is that the history told us
If naga want to integrate their community than its better to transfer naga to nagaland not ask for land in Manipur again and again ,simply the idea is nagaland is really forcing Manipur integrety to be torn off,So therefore it conclude that they want land
Manipuri is only velley
Is thier any history that manipuri is only valley during partition so now u people want to make it verbally it doesn't consider as wat u said if u really want to integrate your people you should tranfer to ur mainland nagaland not to ask any other piece of land from Manipur the simple is that u want to break down the state so as to include in nagaland logic is concluded here
@@lsteve4417 Yes, your king Bodhchandra singh sign a Merger agreement in 1949 which include only his territory of700sq mile.
@@lsteve4417 only Imphal.
Lollllll if you don't know the proper history , better not to speak . Think twice before you speak 🗣️🗣️🗣️
Nagas of Tangkhuls and Nagas of Poumai should also come forward to speak on the plateform for Nagas.
Fool, they are not naga, if they are naga they should go to nagaland, over and out
@@surjakantasingh4287what do you know ? Please do not interfere you know nothing about us.
You know what they called you "kacha naga" Not my word, just saw in lots of comments
No problem...
Cocomi needs to go back to school to learn the meaning of "live and let live"
When will the Indian leaders/people's realize and solve the birth right of Naga solution. We the people of Manipur support the peace movement of Nagas sovereignty integrity.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@ghanashyamleitanthem9800
I swear no one is laughin' on 2021
Pu tongmang haokip articulates well.
Y India is not doing anything justice I don't understand?"!
There are a lot of Meitei people inhabited outside Manipur like Cachar Hailakandi, Karimgang, Hojai, Lanka, Sibsagar of Assam, Tripura, Mayanmar, Bangladesh and so on. Here what I want to say is by making integration can we demand a separate Meitei sovereignty state means Greater Manipur like the way Nagas are doing ? Huh
Let's start now' like them
You can't...meitei are cunning as 🦊
Those maiteis are migrants... 🤣🤣🤣
Now let me tell u a story..a cow was stuck on a pond people help cow to bring up and finally sucess cow sucesfully out of pond and then unfortunately the cow start attack to people who help him ......😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Lol nice pun tho
The funny thing is Meiteis want to deligitimise the Naga identity and would prefer to use the many Tribe names instead of the collective Name Naga. However when it comes to the issue of land they'd like to refer to the hill people as a homogeneous group who occupies some 80% of the land area.
When thadou tribe tried to put paite tribe under kuki nomenclature, war broke out and led to deaths of many. Read thadou-paite clash.
The name of Naga is given by the British at the beginning of the 1900s.., shame on u... u don't have the brain to name your own collective name. There is no historical interaction, similarity among the tribes of Nagaland and Manipur. But, there is a binding of culturally, religion, many solidarities and depended are among the Valley and Hilly people. Do some research on this and then argued.
Naga is pseudo identity...different languages , different tradition and dress. Anyone even bihari nepali can become naga based on loose similarities on food, traditions and living style. That is all.
Mr Athouba you are great,,,you did it👍👍👍
Does Anybody know , what stuff this Mao prof. Smoke ?
You want some😁It is good quality, that is for sure
That NTC leader is very smart, cunning and refine also, hope there are many more like him in nagaland😊
Elu ndang Naga hoho gen Secy well said
elu elu is funny😁he is a fool😁
Mr. Wasbir, you put three Nagas, one Meitei and one Kuki on the panel. This looks partial.
Meiteis people claimed hill people or st wala are stupid; they get gov job because of quota. So there is no problem with having 3 St wala😂
Because they are discussing "naga issue" bro.
When they discuss kuki Or meitei issue, they will bring representatives likewise.
Use some sense nah..
One meitei is enough for all others...we don't give a shit...in the field of education we meiteis are one of the forerunners in the north east, in the field of sports we too r there in the the front.....understand it my north east brothers....
Professor xavier mao are you related to Mao Zedong. Just wondering how you become a Dr. Hahaha, is it from Muivah school of politics.
He must be a product of nepotism and govt. reservation. Not fit for professor
Anal ,maring ,Aimol, clothe tribe's etc. we were never old Kuki.,how meitei n kukis can say simply without knowing anything that we are old kuki,,we Anal,maring etc tribe's our languages,names n traditional totally difference from kukis,v were just close neighbors .....this is a bad policies from cocomi and kukis...
Hhahahha in the history of north east their is no naga kingdom..... U nagas were a part of ahom kingdom..... And nagaland came out of nowhere.... Remember one thing in this modern world it's impossible for one community to live under one umbrella...
Remember anal maring aimol were not also naga
Meitei respect each and every entities of our rich diverse communities. Here in this debate, we didn't mention Anal population belong to old Kuki. Mr Haokip is the one who conceived it. Don't assume everything for anything without proper listening the whole debate.
Don't remind us again and again right from the beginning we are Naga don't judge upon us
@@netishlaitonjam4047 every nagas village was independent. No ahoms King ever ruled naga people land.
There are many things that we can bargain for in life, but there are also certain things which we must not even dare to attempt lest we be totally disappointed.... Like wanting the sun to cast it's rays only on our roof top and leave the rest of the neighborhood in utter darkness.
Stay strong 💪 Manipur Nagas and kuki
we are going to fight this meitei..
Khuraijam Athouba claiming that larger Naga communities are suppressing the smaller Naga communities and 'they' (Meiteis) are trying to accommodate this smaller Naga communities to give rational share and privilege, clearly stated the intention of the Meiteis to create hatred and division among the Naga communities.
Let us keep aside the issues of autonomy for the Nagas of Manipur vis-a-vis GoI and NSCN talks and delimitation for a while, Athouba please answer, why do the Meiteis opposed the 6th scheduled for the hills peoples of Manipur? why Meiteis are opposing the democratic rights of the hills peoples?
Yes it is true...bigger tribes of manipur are suppressing smaller tribes..we need to classify tribes into backward and forward tribes just like nagaland do
Why no recognition of Rongmeis in Nagaland?? Why Mao were beaten up in Kohima for selling vegetables??
Well done Mr Haokip. Mr Tongmang Haokip is a retired IRS. He was a retired Chief Commissioner of Income Tax. He was a product of NEHU and JNU
Wow thats good to know he speaks like a learned person.
Long live mr naga hoho n other naga brothers on platform kuknalim.
Everyone has Right, but one should also remember that every right granted is followed by DUTY,
Respecting each other is the only SOLUTION for All,
Only naga should decide their future...superb✌️..
But the big question is ... Can They...?
7 sisters quarrelling with each other.
All the speakers in this group are nagas except Athouba n Haokip. So they together sided against athouba. 😂
"Are ya Hittin' on Naga right now?" Remember every of this difference political groups or intellectual got the right to speak the truth and fact 'bout the peace movement of Naga solution! Peace & freedom is available to those who learn 'bout it and work for it Don't let yesterday use up too much of today. Honors early solution so that we all can live peacefully 😋
@@jamesesper1826 where is my gun
Well said by Mr Athouba!!
Dr Xavier Mao last comment saying china can uses Nagas fighter to disturb indian govt was really funny. From which university does he got his PhD i doubt.😁
Ukuwewelelemunmu development government University..
Mr. Mao, now your dream is shattered and your loud mouth has been silenced by your pseudo brethrens, beating you up black and blue, even restricting your movements, all because you failed to recognize who you are. Your ocean of learning and the acquired knowledge is in vain, Alas!
Same goes for rest of the panelist as well who tried to distord history and disturb the peaceful coexistence in the entire region.
Let's see what Home Minister Amit Shah do?! India is real threat to Naga not Meities either Kuki.
Government 💰 money & facilities are the main issue here....very evident.
Government must stop all these ST SC n all at once and regard everyone equal and help it's underprivileged citizens irrespective of caste Creed colour region etc. And those who consider themselves special sit at home and enjoy subsidised Rice, LPG, Indra Awas yojna, Bridha pension. Too much politics has made this country poor. A large sum of people rely heavily on full time politics and easy money.
Wake up my country people nobody is privileged or underestimated if taken birth as a Human than live like a HUMANE.
Thanks
@@godiswatchingyou6157
Big *F*-- *Fact*
If north east was never integrated to India, There would not be any Nagaland. It was born due to india's favour to them. N u says that india is a threat to u. 😂😂😂😂
i'm not in favour of india. I'm just laying the truth
@@sayonbi9924 Its torture when ya trynna be serious! We make the law; they break the law/? -- that's the headspace and mindset of Indian leaders. Did anybody hear the sayin' "love thy neighbour"? Can ya elaborate, evidently ya have some secret knowledge 'bout the India, please share it with us.?"!
Athouba was awesome.. he managed to bring out facts, while other panelists just kept on barking.
Where is the Meitei n tangkhul naga community in manipur,,they formed an organisation call Federation of Haomee.. they always attack the kuki,,now the cocomi leader n naga hoho leader are arguing...where is the federation of Haomee go n make peace n understanding between ur leader
If you are indegeneous tribe of manipur than wy your pple claiming kukis are originated from israel and returning back to same.
OO OO You need to learn some fuckin' English
Athouba single handedly manage the other penalist from Naga with original factual information....and this is what needed
My respects and sympathy to the Kuki tribe. But he spoke well for everyone and for himself.
It's very unfortunate to lived in Manipur that every daily essential commodities imported are taxed by NSCM IM,this is too much. This are unlawful activities but India Government are also keep watching from the last decade...they never take actions against this Underground terrorist group,NSCM IM.
People of Manipur kept hoped that our Manipur Government will take action soon into this matter. Else PPL we suffer more due to rised in prices.🙏🙏
You can say whatever you want, but the integration will NOT be happening. The Home Minister clearly stated that. Meiteis are inhabited not only in Manipur but also in Assam and even in Myanmar. If Meiteis & Kukis demand the same then it will ba a total chaos.
Ur pla demand but failed...your ugs are scared
@@James_hero1 Dont talk ugs come one on one and face eachother.
@@rickmeitei4396 punjabi is angry 😂😂
Feels bad for Nagas for their unachievable hope
Indian government will never give separate flag & constitution.
@@stephennaorem8178 feel bads that meitei are demand for St but can't get
Settlement based on ethnic lines are long gone and dangerous.
Clear statements from Mr Athouba👍👍👍👍.....Actually the rest penalists were talking about irresponsible matters i think they just talked on their imagination not on facts...That's y The NorthEast Live invited 4 Nagas n 1 Meitei as well bcoz they know that 4Nagas VS Athouba Meitei alone is enough to debate
First of all get your fact checked boomer! This half knowledge thing is the very reason why there's problems in our region. Don't get opinionated before knowing the facts. Can you see 4 nagas in the panel?
@@ykeishing6896 We obviously take Kuki as a part of Nagas Even the Naga people have claimed that the kuki tribes are part of Naga...I'm not saying this juz see on Naga's reports
@@William_Meitei well clearly you're wrong
@@ykeishing6896 How ????
@@William_Meitei can I say you're "Mayang"? Will that be find for you?
Unproprotionate discussion... Why 3 Naga leader out of 5 panelist.!!!. How could the truth came from 1 vs 5...???
Go n watch discussion in istv n impact tv then..haha
No matter how many people are debating against a single person, truth must prevail so u should not give a fuck!!!!! @Bro koijam
😂😂😂🤪🤑
I think you missed out other Manipuri news channel especially impactTV where one particular anchor sometime seemingly forget his position being an anchor and take sides all of a sudden,you can experience all his emotion when it comes to naga issue.
Hahahaha Comparing Anal and Angami? 😄😄😄 COCOMI, who are you to talk about Anal tribes when they themselves want to live with Nagas? Why don't want to talk about Mao, Maram, Poumai, Naga affinity with Nagaland, as said, there is no Manipur Nagas? 😀😀😀
Katcha naga is what Nagaland people called to manipuri nagas.
They Nagalang people dont want to join with these nagas of manipur most important thing...
Not delay, this not be possible
Well and critical discussion,thank North East live for your discussion.
No one can stop Nagas unique history? unique history declared by GoI?+?+?
You are opposed to anything that tribes do in Manipur...who created that false census...your community is the one that dominated the census data collection... everything was done at the behest of the dominant group's interest
In senapati district women are giving birth like rabbit, 3 times a year, thanks to science and technology dept of nscl io
Stfu if don't know anything
Did u allow census team to count the really no. People in your family,and you people got special ST cota but in valley they didnot have it ,in 30% u people can get job and any admission in any field but for valley its above 60% if the valley region condemned to remove this system u know wat the result you people should be face, that professor in this talk show i garanteed that the intellectual score for him is flop it show when he reply to the anchor Questions with no related ans And barking like anything that valley people make us supressed and all realy funny thought of mind you people have.And lastly if some tries to steal or take ur land property wat you will do mind that
Mr venom don't spew venom of hatred
Manipur was a kingdom of 2000 years. It will be as it is. Any disturbance to it's administration is not acceptable. Lots of community groups are inhabiting together. It is just like mini India.
Mr Mao seems that he couldn't understand what he's been asked...all his answer seems pointless and unnecessary comments.
my kuki brother let end this so called meitei lion share holder
Is there any chance for Kachari to get back our capital Dimapur? 🤣🤣🤣
Kachari also includes one of the recognise tribe of Nagaland
Dimapur should be returned back to Dimasa. It should be part of Dima Hasao District in assam
@@undoc755 bro u r funny after i see ur comment nice one very less chance for kachari to get back Dimapur
May be if you got the call in the meet
😂😂
I agree to Mr Haokip.... there shud be equal representation in the assembly and equal development of the state.... At the same time, there shud be equal sharing of land and resources of the state be it hills or valley amongst the ethnic communities.... 10% valley for everyone though mostly occupied by meiteis where 90% exclusively for tribals is also unfair.... Both the tribals and Meiteis are required to make sacrifices on their sides .... it is also time to focus more on how the state n its people can prosper.... but as long as we are stuck with ethnic politics, we r goin nowhere
Indian leaders did not have courage to solve any territorial integrity! They can only give threat 😭
Dr. Mao's clearification of Meiteis' enjoying lion's share in State Assembly and their manipulations in different fields e, g manipulations in educational admissions, Govt. job recruitments, CSSs' delayed/ twisted implementations, etc. could be highly justified. Mr.Elu Ndang & Mr Theja Therie are upright to say that Nagas deserve to be integrated into single administrative-unit to live as an honourable race and Meiteis had been obstacles for Nagas in Manipur to live as respectable hill people. Mr. Athouba's desperate utterance of Nagas' aspiration as just political ambition could be teaching of senior Meiteis and his Meitei-protective-arguments are humourous.
Mao is very small tribe population of jus 50000
How about st quota ?
U forgot to mention, meiteis alone are paying tax. While tribals are exempted from income tax.
So right...meitei got lion share in terms of paying tax.
@@brucewayne269 Tat's y Nagas prefer separate administration.
@@peterzimik6411 but there is no naga in manipur. How will there be a separate naga administration in manipur?
If anyone wants to become naga, then they can go to nagaland.
Whatever be the case there is a need for Kukis and Nagas of Manipur to stop the hatred and time to find common ground. Nothing will be handed on a silver plate. No ethnic group is a Saint. It is just human nature to look out for our own interest and try to dominate the rest. Peace and stability would come only when each group has enough political and economic power and when everyone respects the other.
All the Nagas, the simple solution is that if you want naga go to your state (Nagaland) only that will bring tha solution. There is no land for naga in manipur.
U too r like g😂i
Well Said!!
That will be the best solution, the so called nagas can happily enjoy themselves and also all the other northeast people will move toward progress
Nagaland state is India temporary constitution which is not covered in indo -naga peace talk, note it.
We are all brothers and sisters
Love is the only way
The final statement by professor is likely..
Profoolsion mao ze dung want to become monkey again, eating leaves, roaming around nanga in the hills and mountain top, that's what he was suggesting
@@surjakantasingh4287 lol... Cannot understand meitei English 😂
Speak sensibly please..
Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it;)
I suppose the saying so much👌
Speak the truth mr. Athouba, all people knows what was the intention of the meities.
Great athauba !!
Intresting topic worth listening.
appreciat Mr haokip thoughts.you made your point.
I think the crux of all this issue roll out of control due to certain section of people blindness towards disproportionate fund allocation and development.going through the gist of this discussion my instinct says that kukis will not hasitate to have a territorial council or separate administration if given a chance.I feel athouba should not try to sabotage the facts Mr Xavier pointed out what is the real apprehension for meities.But fortunate or unfortunately he has also taken some blunt but hard blows from panels around the corner.when you talk but forget about lion share,for a simply reason to get a basic idea u go throught the name of the numerous valley based CSO in many of them you will come across prestigious "all Manipur ''tag to their name but also don't forget to do the home work that how many of such all Manipur organization have run the cause of the minority or particularly for the hills Or how many active member in the organization belongs to another community other than meities.
Well I appreciate athaoba stand on fair head count and the yes nod on delimitation.
Ellu and theja had deal so well with other panelist on their part.appreciate both of your solid answers,bitter truths and sticking to the point tooth and nail.
Once again Mr Haokip approach could be a pressure valve.looking you forward in this talks.
If there is equal representation of different tribes there won't be no question of ST , SC or minority
Why The Govt Of India Doesn't Rule Out Equal Justice amongst the Northeastern indigenous communities 🤔 Most concerned & frequent ask.....?
The so called nagas in nagaland be happy of what you have don't try to steal others land or rights or what so ever. History cannot be repeated many times think of better ideas regarding Co esistance. Nagas dose t have 3 eyes you should understand it. Fait up of hearing nagas issues
Manipur can't be divided in thousand years.But very soon nagaland will be divided in to eastern and western nagaland.
You are a landless shameless boy
live and let live ....peace out
Crow self proclaimed as a peacock by using the peacock feathers.
Coated gold is self claimed as a pure gold because the outer surface is covered with gold.
Duplicate or kacha self claimed as a original brand.
But the original brand laughing at the duplicate or kacha as a shameless people just like a naked people in the globe.
Original naga of Nagaland always laughing at the duplicate or kacha Naga from other states except Nagaland naga
Absolutely manipri are an obstacle to naga in every aspect....evan the oppose ADCto fully function...
Using china to threaten India on the peace discussion....lol are naga going to start a war with India......
High chances
Yes agreed prof. Mao why not if goi keep playing Naga's inspiration, we ll fight back with external forces to fullfil our desire. The last option left bravo Kuknalim.
Will be appreciate if Include UNC president in this panel... Nagas never and will never give up... Untill and unless our aspiration,our forefather aspiration is achive...... Xavier moa has clearly stated in the last minutes why integration is the basic ingredient to naga solution... Solution is to work out by the GOI and not by any others.
yes rightly said
Hahahaha
Why the need for unc, naga huhu and profoolsion mao ze dong is already there for nscl
delimitation should be an option!! considering all the concerns. that HAOKIP sir spoke very logically. other speakers need to learn
Mao is correct
There is no naga in Manipur actually I never heard naga I know Tangkhul,mao,anal,kabui,etc...but muivah discovered all the tribes as new naga but naga community in nagaland never except it they were Porter's in British time and now they were militants of northeast
It's because you are born just yesterday
It's fucking true
Lol you should learned difference between Tribes and ethnicity..
@@1msubscriberdontwatchit945 10 minute silence for those who think naga is an ethnic.😂😂
Anyone can become naga...no common language,culture,dress. It is confirmed by ur naga panelist also.
@Green Scenery they are not naked, how can you say they are naked
Nagas are claiming autonomy territorial council/the Kukis and zomi are demanding territorial council within present manipur .
Khuraijam athaoba become skinny this year...
Kuki manipur,kuki nagaland,kuki burma,kuki bangladesh,kuki assam,kuki arunachal etc etc etc
Thanks uncle Haokip...
Not only feeling...
Hills are out of 90% budget in reality.
Meitei king surrender to shantidas ghosai if the king stand for sanaleibak/manipur that time maybe nagas and meitei aspiration may similar but metei want to differentiate from tribal/Hao people, so it's different now dont try to bring us together again. sweep your own compound first before sweeping others(meitei proverb)
Quite the interesting topic, one unconventional utopian solution that comes to mind is that Kuki's(Zomi, Mizos, Hmars etc. included), Meitei's and Nagas be given an equal proportion of represantatives in the State legislative assembly regardless of their population size, and each sub-community within the said Kuki-Meitei-Naga communities be given an equal amount of seats within their respective community (Eg. Same amount of seats for Thadou-Kukis, Zous and Paites etc. for the Kuki community, same amount of seats for Maos, Tangkhuls, Rongmeis etc. for the Naga community, same amount of seats for Meitei's, Pangals etc.). This I feel would induce a more inclusive and proportionate rate of development for the different communities as well as regions within the state of Manipur, something similar to what Singapore has done for the Chinese-Malay-Tamil communities. Feel free to correct or improve upon this idea.
I would suggest equal no. of MP for each state in India so that every state can develop equally
Dude... As I say... Representation based on ethnic lines are long gone and dangerous. Eg. Africa, erstwhile yugoslavia and I hope u already know about germany and swastikas..
@@pavelningthoujam3166 Indeed representation based on subjugating other ethnicities is a danger, but this is the opposite of what I have envisioned. A harmonious society based on 'equal' representation is what I am talking about, not autocratic or dictatorial like the examples you've provided.
@@paulz_san ofcourse demarcation and integration based on administrative convenience is a good idea.... But on ethnicity...its bad. It's disintegration... It breaks unity... Soon... It will further disintegrate..even among the naga tribes... And thn so on.
@@pavelningthoujam3166 So you mean to say that the equal representation each of the communities will be getting will lead to more disunity than what is present now?
It'd be more interesting if you are able to change the participants sometimes.
Nagas have legitimate right to have there own country
Go to china and demand your country there, dont disturb the peace here
The speaker that represent cocom should speak something that makes sense. Complete denying the existence of Nagas in Manipur is none sense. Nobody will buy it. This is just a rhetoric, no one is going to take seriously.
Chop be you pple already kick out from nagaland.
Of course, there is no naga in manipur.
Last date of form submission for becoming naga had already been notified by the govt of nagaland, those naga living here and there in manipur should submit the form else it will be too late. Nagaland govt has pause the process for some reason or maybe because of pressure from some people
very interesting debate