Thanks, useful content. I have a Troll I recently got 2nd hand with the same dynamo hub and the Rohloff. Actually I'd really appreciate a video of the back wheel being removed with that hub ! I did change the back inner tube but now the gears seem to be out and limited to 12 speeds, not quite sure why. Bike shop put it back together after a frame respray and the whole hubgear thing is new to me.
Hi Sergio thanx for all videos. You show reality. Every youtubers make commercial and be a fan when they are showing product review. After this video I wont give 300 euros for son 28. Maybe rohloff and son 28 not fail but you can made another rim and gear system like xt but without dynamo hub. You can compare and have spare parts. We are waiting for new videos from you. 🚲🙋♂️
Thanks, Eren, Much appreciated. Everyone has its experience and make a conclusion out of it. I find it useless for what I am doing. In some cases, it's useful like lighting lights on a multiday endurance race but it's not my case :) I thought changing the gears and having spare parts but It will cost me quite a bit of money.. However, it will be interesting, especially run 27.5-inch wheels... Will see what the future brings. Take care
I ride a Tout Terrain Panamericana with a BaFang BBSHD mid-drive driving a Rohloff Speed-hub. The BaFang and Rohloff work seamlessly together. I won't own another bike without a Speedhub. I also have a SON dynamo connected to the headlight and a large battery bank in the bar-bag. I just switch between them when necessary. I couldn't possibly live without the dynamo-hub. My Garmin GPS won't last even 8 hours, and my cell-phone is a power hog, GoPors, MP3 player, lights, and on and on. With the mid-drive, I am almost always changing the battery bank, even climbing, anywhere unless I'm just rolling amongst pedestrians at a walking pace. After 4 years of riding an average of 6000 miles a year, I now change the chain and flip the gear every 3000 miles. When I do they are both trashed. At 1st I'd neurotically clean and lube chains after each ride, wash them weekly, stop wipe and lube them during rides. Maybe if I changed them monthly I could have got a new one to mesh with the rear gear but it was just too much maintenance. The chains (great high-quality KMC chains) wear so fast that even at 1000 miles when measured with a chain checker it needs to be replaced, but if I do the gear will no longer mesh with it and needs to be flipped. My front gear is a CDC off-set tooth Bling Ring that has always meshed with new chains without a hiccup. So I change my chain and flip or replace the Rohloff gear twice a year. Less than a 30-minute job now. I could probably go 4K or more miles but twice yearly is good with me. photos.app.goo.gl/wnvJTtTnxNCB2wPK8 photos.app.goo.gl/ZWBAwkXYmMYbS7L77 photos.app.goo.gl/z9a2zEN3n7hDbJ2V6 Stay safe.
@@yashchirka4060 Maybe so.... and I'm sure that someone could make a $1000.00 Wunderkette. The answer is a belt-drive but my bike isn't adaptable. Stay safe.
@@yashchirka4060 I have a pretty unique suspended touring frame that isn't designed to handle the tension a belt needs to function properly. - photos.app.goo.gl/yCX8ua3kASaWJok76
2.5 - 3k kms for each chain does seem very low indeed. Even with derailleur gears my chains lasted about 5k miles or 8k kms. What chain are you using? With Rohloff set up I get over 15k miles or 25k kms for each chain and the rear sprocket (std 16T) shows little wear and the front chain ring 42T (SJS) is still like new. You need to get a chain guard.
I Alex, I remember you mentioned in a different video. I am using KMC X1 and I change when stretching to the limit, by measuring it. Obviously, I could go further but the cog is wearing out quickly so I prefer to change it. Which chain are you using? perhaps mine is not as good as yours. thanks for your comment ! take care
@@gonewiththewheels8424 Me the same KMC X-1 Silver for single speed and IHG bikes. Unfortunately it was discontinued last year. You might find another on Ebay from old stock. I measure mine too with a Park Tool chain checker and renew when it reaches maximum wear. Hebie Chainglider is what I have. I had it from day one on my Troll. I lube the chain with chain saw oil. I look it off the first summer but kept it on for the next as it stops dust and grit getting to the chain. The chain is usually quite clean and new like when I take the Hebie chain cover off to check for stretch. The only other thing I can think of that might be different from your bike and mine is nothing. Maybe we have very different cycling demands and styles when riding? I usually pedal at high cadence 90-95+. I usually carry rear panniers which always seem heavy to me and then with heavy shopping a couple of times a week. It is quite flat where I ride in East Anglia, but even then that shouldn't make so much of a difference to chain wear. When I tour on mine I ride up and down hills and mountains fully loaded. I don't know what else to suggest to try to help you get more miles out of your chain and cogs but seriously for me the much increased life of the chain and reduced maintenance costs is the reason I chose a Rohloff gear bike. I think if I was getting as low miles as you I would seriously be considering whether it was worth it even with the big benefits of riding with a Rohloff hub itself. SJS do Hebie Chainguards or they used to or Rosebikes or Bike24 in Germany. You need the one for Rohloff IHG and front piece depends on size of your front chain ring. You can get different sizes. But good review of all the points. I love my Rohloff hub and Troll. It is a bit heavier but then I think 50% of it is the Surly Troll. It is not a light or frame for riding fast. I have a Surly Straggler as well which is not a light fast frame but not as slow as the Troll. 700c wheels have made quite a difference with 35-40c tyres making it roll faster and easier. I would like to try the Rohloff in my Surly Straggler. Keep updates of how you go. Btw I think Surly have just announced the Troll is now discontinued. All the best.
The range of the hub is not changed by chainring or sprocket choice A very well considered report on the Rohloff hub - if it suits your requirements its a great piece of kit Thanks
Yes you right, I was mistaken in saying that. I should say it's changing the speed ratio.. I find the hub a very nice piece of gear on my expedition bike which is made to go far rathe than fast :) obviously, it has its pros and cons. Thanks for your feedback Daniele
Thanks, useful content. I have a Troll I recently got 2nd hand with the same dynamo hub and the Rohloff. Actually I'd really appreciate a video of the back wheel being removed with that hub ! I did change the back inner tube but now the gears seem to be out and limited to 12 speeds, not quite sure why. Bike shop put it back together after a frame respray and the whole hubgear thing is new to me.
I will 😃 ASAP !!
Take care
Hi Sergio thanx for all videos. You show reality. Every youtubers make commercial and be a fan when they are showing product review. After this video I wont give 300 euros for son 28. Maybe rohloff and son 28 not fail but you can made another rim and gear system like xt but without dynamo hub. You can compare and have spare parts.
We are waiting for new videos from you. 🚲🙋♂️
Thanks, Eren,
Much appreciated.
Everyone has its experience and make a conclusion out of it.
I find it useless for what I am doing.
In some cases, it's useful like lighting lights on a multiday endurance race but it's not my case :)
I thought changing the gears and having spare parts but It will cost me quite a bit of money.. However, it will be interesting, especially run 27.5-inch wheels...
Will see what the future brings.
Take care
I ride a Tout Terrain Panamericana with a BaFang BBSHD mid-drive driving a Rohloff Speed-hub. The BaFang and Rohloff work seamlessly together. I won't own another bike without a Speedhub. I also have a SON dynamo connected to the headlight and a large battery bank in the bar-bag. I just switch between them when necessary. I couldn't possibly live without the dynamo-hub. My Garmin GPS won't last even 8 hours, and my cell-phone is a power hog, GoPors, MP3 player, lights, and on and on. With the mid-drive, I am almost always changing the battery bank, even climbing, anywhere unless I'm just rolling amongst pedestrians at a walking pace.
After 4 years of riding an average of 6000 miles a year, I now change the chain and flip the gear every 3000 miles. When I do they are both trashed. At 1st I'd neurotically clean and lube chains after each ride, wash them weekly, stop wipe and lube them during rides. Maybe if I changed them monthly I could have got a new one to mesh with the rear gear but it was just too much maintenance. The chains (great high-quality KMC chains) wear so fast that even at 1000 miles when measured with a chain checker it needs to be replaced, but if I do the gear will no longer mesh with it and needs to be flipped. My front gear is a CDC off-set tooth Bling Ring that has always meshed with new chains without a hiccup. So I change my chain and flip or replace the Rohloff gear twice a year. Less than a 30-minute job now. I could probably go 4K or more miles but twice yearly is good with me.
photos.app.goo.gl/wnvJTtTnxNCB2wPK8
photos.app.goo.gl/ZWBAwkXYmMYbS7L77
photos.app.goo.gl/z9a2zEN3n7hDbJ2V6
Stay safe.
Nice bike!!
Be safe too!!
Hopefully I will see u on the road once the pandemic is over !!!
@@yashchirka4060 They aren't any more durable than KMC's E-line chains.
@@yashchirka4060 Maybe so.... and I'm sure that someone could make a $1000.00
Wunderkette. The answer is a belt-drive but my bike isn't adaptable. Stay safe.
@@yashchirka4060 I have a pretty unique suspended touring frame that isn't designed to handle the tension a belt needs to function properly. - photos.app.goo.gl/yCX8ua3kASaWJok76
2.5 - 3k kms for each chain does seem very low indeed. Even with derailleur gears my chains lasted about 5k miles or 8k kms. What chain are you using? With Rohloff set up I get over 15k miles or 25k kms for each chain and the rear sprocket (std 16T) shows little wear and the front chain ring 42T (SJS) is still like new. You need to get a chain guard.
I Alex,
I remember you mentioned in a different video.
I am using KMC X1 and I change when stretching to the limit, by measuring it.
Obviously, I could go further but the cog is wearing out quickly so I prefer to change it.
Which chain are you using? perhaps mine is not as good as yours.
thanks for your comment !
take care
@@gonewiththewheels8424 Me the same KMC X-1 Silver for single speed and IHG bikes. Unfortunately it was discontinued last year. You might find another on Ebay from old stock. I measure mine too with a Park Tool chain checker and renew when it reaches maximum wear. Hebie Chainglider is what I have. I had it from day one on my Troll. I lube the chain with chain saw oil. I look it off the first summer but kept it on for the next as it stops dust and grit getting to the chain. The chain is usually quite clean and new like when I take the Hebie chain cover off to check for stretch. The only other thing I can think of that might be different from your bike and mine is nothing. Maybe we have very different cycling demands and styles when riding? I usually pedal at high cadence 90-95+. I usually carry rear panniers which always seem heavy to me and then with heavy shopping a couple of times a week. It is quite flat where I ride in East Anglia, but even then that shouldn't make so much of a difference to chain wear. When I tour on mine I ride up and down hills and mountains fully loaded. I don't know what else to suggest to try to help you get more miles out of your chain and cogs but seriously for me the much increased life of the chain and reduced maintenance costs is the reason I chose a Rohloff gear bike. I think if I was getting as low miles as you I would seriously be considering whether it was worth it even with the big benefits of riding with a Rohloff hub itself. SJS do Hebie Chainguards or they used to or Rosebikes or Bike24 in Germany. You need the one for Rohloff IHG and front piece depends on size of your front chain ring. You can get different sizes. But good review of all the points. I love my Rohloff hub and Troll. It is a bit heavier but then I think 50% of it is the Surly Troll. It is not a light or frame for riding fast. I have a Surly Straggler as well which is not a light fast frame but not as slow as the Troll. 700c wheels have made quite a difference with 35-40c tyres making it roll faster and easier. I would like to try the Rohloff in my Surly Straggler. Keep updates of how you go. Btw I think Surly have just announced the Troll is now discontinued. All the best.
The range of the hub is not changed by chainring or sprocket choice
A very well considered report on the Rohloff hub - if it suits your requirements its a great piece of kit
Thanks
Yes you right, I was mistaken in saying that.
I should say it's changing the speed ratio..
I find the hub a very nice piece of gear on my expedition bike which is made to go far rathe than fast :) obviously, it has its pros and cons.
Thanks for your feedback Daniele