Will Zion's conditioning derail his career? - Skip and Shannon discuss | NBA | UNDISPUTED
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- New Orleans Pelicans' Zion Williamson has been impressive in his rookie season, but much of the focus has been on his conditioning. Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe discuss their concerns for Zion and how his conditioning will impact his career.
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Will injuries derail Zion Williamson's potential Hall of Fame career?
I think this is Derrick Rose all over again.
300+ lbs and jumping up and down too much.
If there weren’t too many talk shows...
The HOF wouldn’t even be a discussion.
Should put a limit on you guys...
NO HOF discussions until someone’s played at least 5 years in the pros AND accomplished SOMETHING Major.
Last time I checked...
Zion has done nothing as a Pro...
Is Johnny Manzel going to make the HOF???
How about Baker Mayfield??
How about Josh Rosen??
This is SILLY...
Wait until the kid does something BEFORE you ask about the HOF...
Cause right now this is reee-diculous.
If anyone cares I’d appreciate if y’all would check my channel out. I talk about life, relationships, spiritually, current events etc. YOU WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED AND THANK YOU 🙏🏾
nahhh
Ben Simmons maybe. It's up to Zion to be better and it's easier than Ben Simmons problem.
Unc Shay spittin' some facts here.
"I'm my toughest critic"
"If you're a professional, it's you versus you"
Ayo He's Sharpe today innit?🔥🔥🔥🔥😤😤😤
Truth
Both of them are. Moses Malone told Charles Barkley who is similar to Zion to lose some weight. And he did, and he got better.
What time in the video did he say that? Love that so much
@@arjunbabha1651 0:54
I agree with Skip. Zion does seem less explosive than he was at Duke. That's not a good sign.
I noticed it too the other night. No excuse to come back bigger than before after 4 months off. Image if he lost some weight
He ain’t even as explosive as he was in high school
Peter Nguyen your right his prime explosiveness was his JR of high school he got hurt the summer going into his SR and his explosiveness declined still great but not 2016-2017
imahustla50 he needs to sit out the season and get his body healthy for next season. Get 100%
kobebryant24861 it would also benefit him to talk to Shannon sharpe and get some council about his body and training it would greatly help him
He needs to get a trainer and chef and get serious about his profession
He don’t got it bruh
He needs a psychologist the most, eating is mostly mental
The boi zion is not serious. He lacks discipline. If he doesn't change his bad habits right now it's going to bite him in the future. I wish nothing but the best for zions career but he needs to be disciplined. He should learn from players like LeBron. Someone who spends over 1mill dollars on his body.
Bro he's most likely got all of that arranged for him
@@billrussell4832 it's a stretch to say he doesn't have any discipline we really know nothing about this kid and what he does off the TV screen
Shannon is on it, you can’t be 300lbs at age 20 and not expect to be 400lbs at 30 . This will not end well Zion needs to change his mind set or he’ll be out of the league in 5 years.
Zion taking one n done to the NBA level 😂
If zion doesn't watch out he'll be 400 pounds in his mid 20s. At age 30 he will literally be one big mac away from being on my 600 pound life
He has maybe 2 more years, tops.
3 years 😔no knees
He going out like Oliver Miller
No idea how you sit out 4 months and Zion is still out of shape.. WTF was he doing that whole time?? Eating cheeseburgers and playing 2k🤣🤣🤣
Sounds good to me 🤣 except the 2k part
That pic of a “slimmer” Zion was all hype.
He’s still the chunky penguin that we know him as.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Good one.
Indeed
@@Terror832 I mean you get paid to dribble a ball and he won't even get on shape🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
00:46 “Skip he bigger than when he LEFT!
lol
😂😂😂 that part had me rollin
AHAHAAHAH christ man, every single time, facts and comedy killing facts at that, man Shannon!
@@dusk6159 and the incredulous look on Shannon’s face before he says it.
Lol
“He’s so young and SO BIG!”
That’s what she said...
@@_juicejames That's not a good start
Those NO chicken wings derailed his conditioning
*career
Jk
@@kb7661 u right
Bill Russell I’d rather the young fella prevail but....
At least they aren’t Lemon Pepper from magic city
CaptainBugs 😭😭
If I can loose 40 since february ....he can do it too
Right! I also lost 45 pounds since the quarantine. I was 260 back in February. If I could do it with just a hr of exercise every other day and eating more salads. He should of have been killing it. I don’t know who is in his corner but they really got to get his mind set right about diet and exercise. If this was duke Zion in the bubble the dude would average close to 30 😂😂.
Preach 🙌
Congratulations
I agree with Shannon....my high school coach always told us if we’re going to lose...it’s because we were outplayed not because we were out of shape and tired
"That's the problem he's so young and so big" 💯
LeeTravius Mckay pause
HH Channel sus for thinking of it in that way
I give Zion maybe 6 or 7 years before injuries end his career. And that's being generous. That body and play style can't last 82 games a year for a decade. Shannon right on the money here
Zion needs to talk to Shaq and Charles Barkley
Not shaq or Barkley
shaq went the opposite direction that zion should want to go, he came in skinnier and added weight. zion came in the size of year 10 shaq.
@Tone Da Great McKay that was a bad example
@@WinedandDined27 YES
He needs to talk to Lebron and Shannon
Troy " Escalade" Jackson was ballin on fools at 6'10 375 but he ballooned to 500 lbs before he passed. God Bless him.
Zion needs to get his weight at 250. That's the weight Charles Barkley played throughout his NBA career.
But Zion's game is much more explosive than Charles Barkley. Thats where his weight comes to the discussion.
Zion has so much talent he needs to get his weight down once he does that he will be amazing.
265 or 255 would be perfect for him he's 6'7 carrying center weight 😥
I am worried about his nba career u see what happened to d.rose
@@123456CBOY they mismanaged d.rose the bulls forced him to play through alot of injuries they should've load managed him
@@saintsoprano1336 yeah, i think u right, thats why his brother came out n spoke up for him
@That1Dude 44 also his biggest weak-knees...see what I did there
just get dude a nutritionist, its not rocket science
All that money no excuse
He still has to follow what the nutritionist says. Discipline and focus is the issue.
@@DanThomasLIVE right but when hes confirmed to have a nutritionist he cant have an excuse
@@DanThomasLIVE True and with that gigantic Jordan contract he got, idk if he would change cuz he has already all the money in the world.
They did
And he tried to eat the nutritionist
if he cant get his weight down to save his knees he just have to play the way Zach Randolf play or Derek Fisher who only catch and shoot😁😁
Or like d’uan Blair
Yes. The problem is he doesn’t have the foot work or post game of Zach. Also don’t think he is as tall.
Idk, it's his game. He doesn't shoot, he only drives left and bodies you. I'm not saying he's not special. But CB34 I recommend he listens to. IMO
Apologize! Zbo was a BEAST!!!!!
LOL zach Randolph
He just needs a chef, a diet, discipline. Go to LeBron, Barkley, Shannon, one of them. Speak to CP3 about how he changed his diet.
Denzell Allen Lebron and Shannon would be the best people to discuss his issues with
The issue with that is Zions playing weight is too big for 6'7. For him to have enough strength at 6'7 to overpower Centers he needs to be atleast 260 and even that is too high. If he slims down too much his game wont work, if he bulks up he'll still have the same weight issues. Zion looks like he has an extremely stocky frame. If he became solid he's still going to be 270
@@stephenasunnamedsource2943 265-270 would be fine for him
I agree. Cp3 can definitely help
@Charles Prunty Lebron is 6'9 tho not 6'7
What they doing with Zion is similar to what Nationals were doing with Stephen Strasburg
Right
Strasburg is a 10 year vet in his 30's. Zion is 20.
@@jwaynecitizen "were" doing. Not now.
@@jwaynecitizen Strasburg first couple seasons they were only allowing him to pitch 6 innings and shut him down after like 130 games
Zion, need to gain some maturity and take some responsibility for his body.
He has access to the best doctors, trainers and coaches. There is no excuse for showing up in this kind of condition.
He has regressed. If he does not get his weight and conditioning under control, he is going to have a short, injury-plagued career!
Plenty of guys have had shortened careers, or failed to reach their potential, due to bad conditioning: Shawn Kemp, Charles Barkley and others.
Facts
He just gotta lose weight and conditioning and also do what Myles Turner did and do yoga/cardo
E X A C T L Y
Myles Turner's turning into a walking bucket
@@hurricanestarang And he's only 24 I didn't know that, he has time to grow
In my non expert opinion he needs to be in between 240 and 250 because he only about 6'6 maybe 6'7
So do DE’s or TE’s in football need this same excuse ?
I love how they used the topic to just talk about their own training.
Wishing Zion the best, weight loss isn’t easy but he has all of the support & reasons to be motivated, so he can become a great player.
If they lose to the Kings tonight, I'm sending him back to New Orleans. Get him back to the teams facilities and do whatever you need to do, so he will be ready to go when the league restarts in a few months.
Isn’t it safer to just shut him down in the bubble where he has access to the best facilities and trainers with no real Covid danger tho?
@@mariorodr7guez759 Im no bubble expert, but I think there was a limit on the number of staff that went. Plus, I don't think Disney has as much equipment as New Orleans has at their facility. He will be safer from Covid in the bubble, but should have a whole team to be able to work on just him back in N.O.
& they did lose lmao 😂
SEND HIM BACK BOYS
Wish we would have gotten senior from HS Zion , rewatch his highlights he had the perfect balance of athleticism and strength
Zion needs to talk to Charles Barkley like Shannon said. Charles was also 300 lbs and had to lose weight to reach his full potential. Played at 250 lbs for his whole career
Naw when Barkley was in Houston he was back at 300
Barkley didn't jump like Zion. So Zion knees take alot of pressure when jumping and coming back down
@@bookofeli1902 exactly which is why it's even more important he gets his weight down
Ok I get we keep saying Charles, but Charles did so much. He was high motor. Not just empty weight.
@@jerrybutler4460 that what I'm saying
Zion should hire Unc to be his trainer in the off season!
I’ve never seen skip agree with Shannon so much
Y’all talk about Zions weight more then 3/4 of the teams in the NBA lmao.
Right just let him play
Stebbie J You can’t just play b-ball if you’re not in the physical shape to play the volume of minutes needed in order for you to win games.
@@shadowx9398 he is in physical shape. He's not being aloud to play.
100 miles a week. Damn that’s impressive man even as a young man.
I'm in full agreement with Uncle Shay. He has a TREMENDOUS upside. Great skill and like Skip said "soft touch". But his downside is glaring and can't be ignored like everybody has been doing
Someone definitely photoshopped that picture of Zion looking ripped af, before the season restarted.
Forsure
Which "RUclips doctor" are they talking about? Brian Sutterer?
If he’s playing, he’s gonna be DOMINATING. Simple as that.
HOWEVER I don’t wanna see him become Shaq 2.0, meaning his own health stops himself from reaching 100% potential.
Hope he’s more like LeBron in terms of dieting & remaining at great physical shape from start to finish.
Shaw was a hall of famer and 4 time champion from 92-2004 he was the most dominate big in the game.
From 04-06 sub prime heat Shaq was still pretty good.
Year 15-20 shaq was shell of himself.
But when you come in at 7’1 300 LBS It’s real easy to become 350lbs once that metabolism slows down come on man.
Marquise Walston I think if you look at Zion rn he’s going to become Shaq in a Celtics Jersey quicker than shaq bc shaq came into the league in pretty good shape
Shaq will beat him in career length, plus he didn’t have issues with his knees early in his career.
Rich A. I think he means he’s gonna become too out of shape to be as good as he should be
Marquise Walston Lebron spends an estimated $1.5 million on his body and probably more. Hopefully, Zion spends a tenth of that on his body.
This is the moment where even though people hate Lebron Talking to upcoming talent that it shows how important it is
Lebron or Cp3 someone
Needs to talk to Zion and try to help him
Man just give him another month or so of hoopin even if the pels get eliminated from making the playoffs and he’ll be back in shape. 💪🏽🏀
@Jack Louis He's not a professional basketball player.
Is Brian Sutterer MD the youtube doctor, skip been saying?
Gotta start working on that jumper now
he just gotta play his way into shape
You mean lose weight lol
You don't play your way into shape. That's how you get injured.
@Jiggy Thanos that's the point he just had 4.5 months off. He came back in worse shape. You see a ton of NBA players that are in rusty with basketball skills, but are in better shape than when they played last in March. That's not the case for him.
@Jiggy Thanos ok boomer
Zion needs to look at Melo Anthony.
Melo always had to much weight for his position. Now Melo understands to be affective you need to be in shape.
Are they talking about Brian Sutterer?
I worry about his health to as far as him having a long career staying healthy...he's the only player in the league that I watch play and I get nervous because he has such a big body and so explosive I have doubts that his knees will hold up but I really hope he does because he seems like he really enjoys the game of basketball...with the money he makes and with the new technology I agree with shannon he can afford a full time chef to prepare clean meals for him so he can watch his weight because he has the type of body that it doesn't take much for him to put on alot of weight that he doesn't need
i do not know if Zion Williamson knows who Shannon Sharpe is ,but he can google him. Sharpe trained to be stronger since he was undersized for his position. His training regimen was so good he played thirteen years and now at over 50 he is still very strong at weight training.
What doctor are these guys talking about? Could someone please drop a link
That gray & blue look good... ima have to steal that color way next time I’m stepping out
Ya diig
Skieup Got Some Nice Suits
Dude is definitely in basketball shape, that is in the literal sense.
They talking about zion like he a 40 year old man lol
He is a good size FOR HIS SIZE. But he’s not a GOOD SIZE for an NBA 82 game season 🤷🏾♂️
And he shoulda been in shape the whole damn stoppage smh.. he's a professional lol
Think long term
T Jordan thass what I’m sayen.. like tf 🤷🏽♂️ & like Shannon said yu got thee means monetarily & definitely girly thee time.. so Whass thee excuse that Zion hasn’t lost atleast 10 pounds in thee last 4 months 🙄🙄🙄
Gonna be real hard when he gets in his 30s. Look at Shaq and Barkley at the end of their career. Difference is they were jacked in the beginning
I was going say how he is now a high quality player for the next 8 and at least a role player 2 to 6 years after that 8
He needs to hit up Michael Porter Jr’s. Chef. That dude has a great chef
all that good vegan food he can probably eat and have catered to him. hope zion get right.
For real I don't understand these athletes I'd already have 2-3 chefs lol
didn't prince fielder become vegan and gain weight? theres a lot of salt and sugar for taste if you don't no a vegan diet properly
Do Like Chris Paul And Extend Your Career
samelmudir he did. It doesn’t matter if it’s meat or vegan. Law of thermodynamics is undefeated
Abelian Grape facts so confusing get a chef and make everything taste good !
Zion kind of reminds me of JaMarcus Russell. Insane physical talent but lacks the work ethic to get in shape.
I also think JaMarcus didn’t really like football like that.
Zion at least loves basketball
Zion has better work ethic than Jamarcus, you can tell Zion actually cares about the game and his team. It’s just his health that is the problem
@@danielalcala938 Discipline* not health
I hope someone takes him under their wings to mentor him
It's called "Adobe Gainz"😂
Skip says he used to do 100 miles a week thats 14 miles a day.
Skip bolt frfr
Jiggy Thanos ignorance and lack of intelligence are two different things. plus it’s just a joke. and i’m sure you’re no isaac newton yourself. just chill out and let people have a good time. all you had to do was say “well actually it would be “skip farah” since usain is a sprinter.” or something along the lines of that. please don’t become the type of person that causes everyone to frown just by being around them. if you act that rude in real life people will begin to dislike having you around.
You destroyed him إبن عمر النّوبي
This reminds me of Andy Ruiz Jr a lot
All Zion needs to do is talk to Lebron and get himself a health team like Lebron does
Totally agree,
I blame pelicans trainers, this break was perfect for Zion to get in shape but looks like he just got stronger and bigger
Skip and shannon r both health and exercise studs.
8:37 😂😂😂🤦🏽♂️😂😂😂😂
Hope he has a long career, i hate injuries in sports
Haven't even watched the video yet, but the kid is in his FIRST FREAKING YEAR lol ya'll are wild.
He is, but he's getting paid millions in his first year. Z needs to hire a dietician.
@@Being_Water Jokic just slimmed down, whether it be diet or whatever, and he's a young vet. You can't expect anyone to have it all together at 19/20 yrs, no matter how much money they make.
In his first year but weighs 300 pounds more than half of the league
His game is based off athleticism, even in great shape it doesnt last. He should sharpen his skills but im sure he'll figure it out.
He has to become a professional...Signed a professional contract so responsible
to perform like one.... which includes getting himself in shape to realize a great potential
Zion finna be like that And-1 dude, Escalade, in about 5-10 years.
ohh boy thanksgiving coming too rip zion
Zion must really lose his mind at the dinner table. He might have food addiction like Pablo Sandoval does.
Shannon is on point about that diet
:11 shannon really struggling to not make everything about race, good job catching himself there
and just to think, yall really believed he lost 20 lbs. BS
Chef: fish, sweet potatoes, veggies
Zion: big Mac and fries with cookies on the side
Why are captions in Dutch
Gonna be like Shawn Kemp 2.0
Zion gunna be a bust because of his weight. Hes like 20 years old weighing 300 at 6'5. Hes not even 6'6, I've met the guy in person and I'm noticeably taller than him
Lakersyoungcoreareaverage playersatbest well he needs to go on a diet or he won’t last!
No the Key is Leg straight and core strength he is literally having a problem with his knees and running apparently he need to work on his lower body maybe just drop 10 pounds
He's 6'7 but I see your point
Mohammed Reigns lol he needs to drop way more than 10 pounds.
He has to lose about 15 to 30 pounds in order to have a full long NBA career this kid has superstar potential like Lebron and Steph
Alvin Gentry has played the best defense on Zion thus far,The way i see it is Zions landing gear(lower leg area) isnt right for his takeoffs,I am amazed at Zions ability,but he looks to be at 320 to me,i give Zion 4.5 yrs b4 injury is a major problem
0:46 💀 😂
Have him talk to Carmelo on how he lost weight.
Zion is basically a 6'6" shaq. However when Shaq first came in the league, he was 290 and kind of ripped. Zion needs to get to that level. Zion can get to 250 and be shredded.
I have a feeling this quote came from Dr. Shay Shay
Brian Sutterer made it lmaoo
All that cajun food
He should really double down on conditioning, even if that cost some of his explosiveness, its better than a career ending injury waiting to happen
"He bigger than when he left" 🤣
Unc need to go ahead and train em up 🤷🏾♂️
Nahhh. He needa talk to Marc Gasol more than anyone else.
I feel like if he's 280 right now, if he gets to 265 I think he'll be explosive again and he'd still be heavier than other players and bulldoze them.
Eddie Lacy😂😂😂
This reminds me of charles barkley
You vs You..
Zion's potential is to the sky but if he doesn't get his weight together in at least the next two years his career will be short. Shannon said it awile back that Zion is is pretty much enclosed by his Mom amd his step Dad. It seems like his family doesn't even want to let professional trainers train him and teach him how to take care of himself. Take the gloves off and stop coddling him. You have to push him at least a little bit past his comfortable zone one step at a time.
he's gonna end up like guys such as t mac, grant hill, d rose. such an INSANE talent, but his BODY will LET HIM DOWN. it's NOT looking GREAT for him rn, which is SAD man. i LOVE this kid, i think he has LEBRON JAMES potential. but in order to DO that, he has to be IN SHAPE and STAY HEALTHY
I believe that the Pelicans were forced to minimize Zion’s minutes do to out of shape and bad his endurance is. Zion should hire a full time nutritionist to keep that body in check.
If you’re jumping that high and that often your knees won’t last very long. That’s just how it is. Remember Derrick Rose before and after the knee surgeries. Zions good knee days are limited just like everyone who can jump like that
Rose got injured because of how he landed
@@DontReachYoungBlood which makes zions situation even more worse. The guy is 300 pounds and lands poorly. Disaster bound to happen
Zion is just gonna be the Derrick rose of the 2020's.
Zion needs to hire Tim Grover or the new Orleans pelicans organization needs to. I feel like Tim grover can get Zion body moving the way it should and prevent injuries and get his conditioning great.
Doesnt matter who they hire, if he lacks discipline then he wont get results.
Zion has to get with the program.. I'm a married man with 3 children, and work 12hr shifts from time to time. If I can find 1 hr a day to hit the gym and eat healthier so can Zion. I wish Z all best in the world
Zion will have a good long career. He'll lose some weight and watch he'll be very good 🏀🔥
If u look at Duke clips and then him in the bubble and it looks like two different people. I literally can’t believe he gained that much weight at such a young age. Even his high school highlight clips were only two years ago!! And his legs are absorbing all that weight everytime he runs and jumps. He HAS to lose the weight. Absolutely has to. He has to hit the weight room & get a nutritionist.
his bmi is greater than 30 homie gotta strap up