How Did Germans React to the Outbreak of World War II? (1939)
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- Why was there no euphoria when WWII started? What was the German perspective on the outbreak of the Second World War that started with the German invasion of Poland. The Polish Campaign (1939) resulted in a declaration of war from the British and the French to the Germans. How did the ordinary German react to this? Why was there no enthusiasm when WW2 started? Learn more about the German perspective of World War II.
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Interesting video, one suggestion, you should remove music during narration
Well I can assume that most of us Germans where scared for our lives in ww2 and the fact that most people in Germany in ww2 where probably mostly forced to join the war..
India in ww2 can you make a video on it
In the future I will talk about the Indian Legion!
@@HistoryHustle thank big fan
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are you from Austria by any chance?
@@captainsponge7825 no I am Turkish but I am born in the Netherlands so Turkish blood but Dutch culture.
I imagine the catastrophic slaughter of the First World War was still “ fresh” in the memory. Those men who fought in WW1 now had to be prepared to send their sons into that nightmare scenario again. Everyone knew deep down that once you entered a war again, there was never going to be any hope that it would be “over by Christmas”.
Indeed.
@Clint Loran Rand OMG!
My German Mother born in Danzig and was nine years old in 1939. Remembers her older sister running into the house after Poland`s surrender, shouting "we`ve won the war, we`ve won the war " little did she know, it was just the beginning.
Thanks for sharing. What else can you tell us about her experiences?
That might have been difficult, as Poland technically never surrendered as whole country / Government.
@@piotrd.4850 probably when they took the entirety of poland. So technically they won
Poland didn't surrender
@@HistoryHustle She has written some things down over the years. I will see if I can find were they are. She`s still here but is painfully forgetful.
My mother was a small girl growing up in a farming town near Austria . She told me how the young people were excited for the campaign in Poland , but her parents and several of her teachers were less than enthusiastic . Her father had served in the Great War and predicted this would not end well for Germany . He did not survive the war years , and my mother lost 3 brothers in WWII . She mentioned how German propaganda distorted the truth so much , that she believed almost to the end , that Germany would be victorious . And here we are today in a climate of not believing OUR media . History repeating itself ?
History repeating itself ?
- yes.
but the nazies pained all over, are not the nazies
Certainly some media are repeating this in a sense, but I wouldn't say that.
Today it’s corporate media propagating “news” for neoliberal globalism.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Chris. I wouldn't say history is repeating itself. Sure things aren't perfectly fine right now, but living standards are overall consciousness have improved greatly. Sure, media portrays the extreme cases which gives a distorted view. Perhaps some things haven't changed...
@@HistoryHustle yes - you’re right - people are much smarter and it’s harder to manipulate them although still loads of sheeple...
Question:
If Britain declared war on Germany to supposedly defend Poland's sovereignty why didn't they declare war on the Soviets when they attacked Poland from the east on 17th September?
What kind of double standards is that?
that's what i would like to know^^
The main goal was not Poland,but Russia(resourses,territory).Britain wanted Soviet Union as satellite,in fact it pushed Germany to attack Russia,so that they will kill each other,and US and Britain will come at the end.Britain needed Russia the same,like it needed Russia against Napoleon France.Because couldn't win alone.
they need Russia as an ally I guess.
There's a handful of vids on this on YT. This one for example:
ruclips.net/video/VBd60UsL9u0/видео.html
@@HistoryHustle like most other videos on this topic the presenter doesn't really answer this question.
The real answer was because all Britain (and to a lesser degree France) cared about was the destruction of Germany borne out of a visceral hatred they had towards them. The British hated the idea of a German-dominated Europe. Historically in fact they've always been vehemently opposed to a single power achieving hegemony on the continent - think Napoleon in the 19th century - as that power could then potentially pose a threat to them on the world stage. However their abhorrence towards a German hegemony was altogether of a different kind in its intensity.
The great irony of course was that Britain had invaded and colonised a quarter of the earth's surface (some 35,000,000 sq km) by the time Germany embarked on its mission to reclaim the ancestral lands it had lost after the treaty of Versailles (a mere 65,000 sq km). Britain's bloody 350 year rampage all in the name of Empire resulted in the deaths of countless millions including over 50 million Indians. For instance more people were killed in Bengal in 1943 due to famine than the total number of people executed by the Einsatzgruppen in the four years of Eastern Front operations.
If you want the definitive example in history of nation-state hypocrisy look no further than Britain's pontificating about the evils of German aggression set against its own track record. No other country has, nor ever will surpass their level of duplicity.
Proceeding to ally itself with an Bolshevik communist regime to defeat Germany was merely the icing on the cake
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@@HistoryHustle please correct your statements at the beginning of the video about the parts of Poland being given back to Poland - western parts of Poland returned to Poland at Versailles were Polish for hundreds of years (Greater Poland with Poznań is the best example) and they were stolen by Germans during partitions of Poland. They were filled with ethnic Poles and Polish to the bone...
My mother came from Danzig and fled the Russians. Her family settled in Bremen where she later met my father ,a serving British soldier .
Many thanks for the upload , it explains a lot .
Thanks for your reply!
My parents and grandparents grew up in a small German town very close to the Dutch border near Winterswijk. The whole area is staunchly catholic, and the Nazis never gained more than 22% in free elections there. This is because people saw the Nazis as anti-Catholic; and there were also deep-seated prejudices against people from Prussia because they were Protestants. They remember that the mood was very subdued when war was declared. There was a short time of excitement when France surrendered because the country people saw back then as an old enemy was defeated. But my father clearly remembers that from 1941 onwards the overriding feeling amongst people was fear. In 1945 the people in the town joyfully greeted the British as liberators, even though they were looting all their houses.
Thanks for sharing this.
What were they looting?
@@Philotus Anything of value pretty much.....
Money, jewellery, and anything with a swastika on as souvenirs, f.ex. my grandmother’s certificate she got for having 5 or more children.
They also looted art from museums and churches.
I think the issue is complex, particularly in the British occupying zone. Objectively, the British were probably the least vicious occupying force of the four. In addition, they were very well prepared because they came with a lot of Germans who had fled to Britain before the war. These German democrats had given them a lot of useful information about who to approach in order to re-establish a democratic infrastructure. Even in the small town where I grew up in the British came with lists of people who had democratic credentials and could be trusted with the postwar administration. Before the war ended there were certainly attacks on civilians, especially by fighter planes. They killed quite a lot of children in the area. But there were other incidents of trying to avoid civilian deaths. For example, a bombing raid on the town I grew up in was abandoned in February 1945 and the squadron leader dropped all bombs 3 km from the city. This was then corrected a couple of days later when the town was eliminated. But there were clearly some British soldiers who did not want to throw bombs onto civilians.
By and large the treatment of civilians as far as I know from actual people I spoke to was pretty humane. This can certainly not be said for some of the other occupying forces.
I know that many Germans criticised that even the Nazis got off relatively likely under British rule. It appears that the British wanted to re-establish a democratic administration as soon as possible and were far less consumed with revenge once the war was over.
I bet they had no idea they would end up at war with so many different nations
True.
No one sane expected the capitalist US to ally with the bolsheviks against the capitalist Germany back then. Except the shit-stirrer tribe.
@@zsoltpapp3363 No one expected? In the 30s America sold to USSR more than 1000 fully equipped factories, Americans basically built USSRs pre war industrial power
@@pawelnowak9440 US business went on with the Reich as well. American public opinion was pro german up until 1941, when it suddenly shifted with some intensive media brainwashing. "weapons of mass destruction" we know how these things are pulled off dont we.
Lets just say values didnt play any role in the alliances, the real reasons were (and still are) completely different.
They thought they were the ubermeansch.
It is true that Poland was defeated by III Reich and Germany in littler over a month, Poles fought as long as the British, French, Duch and Belgians supported by Poles in the battle of France. As a Pole I had to throw that in there 😂 Nice Episode, Mr. Stefan
Thanks, Kev!
Poles also lasted that long with 1/100th the resources.
True. And they fought bravely.
And USSR*
Don’t throw it on the Belgians and the dutch buddy you guys had a huge nation we don’t i mean ye the french could have looked like: hmm maybe its not that smart to only hold good forces at the maginot line.
The real life creepypasta that was WWI was still fresh on many minds, I imagine for the veterans who survived they saw Germany's defeat coming a mile away.
Yet, the 1940 victories changed perception. More on that later.
My grandmother told ( my then 4 years old) father in 1933 on the very evening hearing Hitler came to power: „there will be a war“
Started wondering about this a while back but Germany and Russia invaded Poland but Great Britain only declared war on Germany and not on Russia why is that?
It wouldn’t be strategic, the Soviets were powerful enough to take on all of Europe to be honest. Better not to anger the sleeping giant, and instead, let it eat the Germans.
It’s complicated. First of all, ussr did not declare war on Poland and Poland didn’t declare war on the ussr, so formally there was no state of war. Simplifying, Churchill took a long view on the situation as on some level he was convinced that Great Britain cannot defeat Germany without help of other powers. There was hope that Hitler’s fury will turn against USSR as eradication of Bolshevism was his stated goal. So on his speech on 1st October 1939 Churchill de facto accepted Soviet invasion of Poland and saying (despite the fact that Germany and ussr were bound by nonaggression pact on 1939) that new border between Germany and ussr gives ussr defensive advantage in the forthcoming conflict. So quite clearly he was betting on the war between the two which would give GB breathing space. As we all know, it kind of worked this way with minor detours. Real problems began only in 1943-1944 when now valuable ally Stalin made it abundantly clear he has no intention of giving up lands acquired in 1939 and 1940 (not only polish).
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You obviously got no clue.
ruclips.net/video/WARonsfUOvw/видео.html This is just a simplified version.
@@BlitZkrieG988 what are you even talking about? You all got your asses kicked lol, schade :(
Thank you so much for awakening so many people’s interest in history Stefan. You’re doing a huge service for the future making sure we learn about the past so we know not to repeat it. You’re awesome!
Many thanks!!
I love the depth of knowledge and the passion for learning that you bring to your videos. This is another example of a topic that I have so often wondered about. Very well done, indeed! Please keep the outstanding videos coming and God bless you, my friend!
Many thanks again for your enthusiasm, Shane!
Very interesting. I literally NEVER thought of this question before. I don't think other people have either. Hopefully this will get lots of views history hustle just like your why did germany keep fighting 1944-1945 video? Keep up the good work!
Indeed, that's why I made it since the video you mention (about 1944-45) recently does very well (again!) :)
Other people have :)
@Junkers Ju 87 buahahaha - had they wanted that - they would support Poland not invade it. They fought tough against Russia because the atrocities they had committed there were horrible and they knew harsh punishment is coming......
@Junkers Ju 87 good.
Know one more thing - the times when your ex ally Russia stifled and shut Poles up is over. The time when you could smear us and not hear a grain of truth in response is over. We have our voices back, we know the history and we have already managed to debunk your hateful smears against us almost entirely.
We are watching your every false
claim and lie and waiting to correct it.
Good video. It's interesting to learn about German perspective as it is often overlooked. When it comes to overall German demands towards Poland, beside Danzig/Gdańsk inhabited by overwhelming German peopluation, other lands of the Second Polish Republic were not inhabited by any significant German population, with overall German population of Poland being at the level of 3%.
You see ... problem is, Danzig wasn't polish. It was Free City, de facto German anyway.
@@piotrd.4850 Gdańsk was/ is and will be rightfully polish. It is always like that with minorities. You are welcoming the Teutonic Knights and after some time people think it is Prussia, you are taking some refugees from Germany to Poznań then they say it is German after some time gladly welcoming Germany to claim Polish land for their own. God damn it you can See the same pattern in SudetenLand and Romanian Germans everywhere where is strong german minority they start to feel overconfident and that they own the land of others. Look at Brazil the same pattern. They are not very easy to integrate into society. That's why so easy to use by III Reich
@@torkel85mal68 you live with Poland under one flag for centuries and then they say Wilno nase...
@@viktorianas good point viktorianas. But it is important to note that the big country, in which we lived together for some centuries, was never called Poland nor Lithuania, it was the Commonwealth, where both nations had equal standing, and Polish was never a de-iure official language.
@@viktorianas Alright fair point. I would say any minority that do not integrate into society they are living in, within first 2 generations is a harmful fenomen that should consider going back to the country they are loyal towards. Lithuania belongs to Lithuanians every inch and not to Poland Vilnus is Lithuanian and a minority cannot, should not, does not have a moral ground to change it or to claim otherwise. Those who cannot speak lithuanian language fluently, have no love to Lithuania and it's people and are from Poland or Russia or any other place should not go living to this country or if they already living in should emigrate.
Dude. Your channel is excellent. You're doing a great job!
Many thanks 👍
These are the types of questions that are most in my mind concerning WWII. A very good video. Thanks
Thanks for your reply.
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You should add information why that lands (western Poland) belongs previous to Germany - all is result partition of Poland in 1772, 1793 and 1795. After partition between Russia, Germany and Austria Poland vanished from the map for 123 years.
That is beyond the scope of this video and already explained here
ruclips.net/video/vBldCyj1VUA/видео.html
I'm American. The fact that Washington DC and Atlanta, Georgia are about the same distance from each other as Paris and Berlin is crazy. All of that violence in such a small area. Lisbon and Moscow are like Los Angeles and New York. Crazy how small Europe really is.
I know..
Not quite right: USA is credited with a total of 9.8 million square kilometers versus Europe with 10.18 million square kilometers. Source: wikipedia
@@waltrohrbach2459 I see, don't quote me on the exact geographical numbers haha.
@@waltrohrbach2459 That's one country vs an entire continent though.
@@ProfShibe Europe is not a continent though. It is a region, the continent is eurasia and slightly larger :D
Another marvellous production, Stefan ! Congratulations on daring to take a perspective that would ( will ? I hope not, of course ), outrage a great number of people. Well done !!!
Thanks for your reply 👍
When you take off that helmet, forty seconds in, you give us one of the greatest "Whew! What a relief!" moments in all of RUclips.
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Very good video. You show how the beginning of the war happened in small steps. One thing leading to another, until an ultimate outcome of those small steps reached it's climax. Like a dam with a slow leak can turn into a torrential flood. One note: At 06:31 you mention "the station". To clarify, you might have said it was a radio station. Some viewers might be led to think it was a train station. But a very good video over all. Keep up the great work!
Thank you, Bill!
@@HistoryHustle You betcha. ;-)
My uncle was in the British army reserve in 1939 and had to report to his barracks on 1st September. So the British government was already expecting a war before the end of August 1939
Because the Fnglish orchestrated the war accordingly !
Everybody expected war, starting from Foch declaring in 1918 that it is not peace, but 2 decade armistace.
Indeed, the Dutch mobilized in August 1939.
The British always had a choice. They could have avoided the war in 39, they could have ended it at any time afterwards with no actual cost for them. If they had, maybe the British empire would still exist.
@@bubiruski8067 yeah but the German military had Britain by the throat at Dunkirk, they where about to slaughter over 350,000 British and French troops and then Hitler told his military to back off and let them escape Why??????
Another good video Stefan,thanks.
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A year or so ago, I told you that your students are lucky to have such fine a teacher as you. I'm here now to say it again. Keep it up my friend and colleague!
Many thanks! Great you're still on the channel:)
Dutch person to German tourists in Amsterdam in the 1950'd -Yyou back already? Where's my bicycle!
Lol
Can you talk about why the British, and French did not go to war against (Russia)/USSR for also invading at the same time?
Type in your question in the YT search bar. There are some good vids by other creators about this.
Stumbled on ur channel and loving it
That's awesome. Welcome to the channel 👍
You make great films. I always watch them with great interest. They keep the historical truth and are unbiased
Many thanks for your reply 👍
The Germans were expecting easy victory (even easier than they got) over Poland. Some German units that did suffer heavy losses seemed to retaliate by committing war crimes. One example would be the Battle of Mlawa and, later on, the Massacre in Zakroczym. During the very battle, the Germans lost: 1,800 killed
, 3,000 wounded, 1,000 missing, and 72 tanks destroyed. Later on, Panzer Kempf committed the very massacre.
Yes, I did mention Zakroczym in this video:
ruclips.net/video/GHDCWKYEjMo/видео.html
It still was an easy victory. the preperation of the polih didnt help much just like the one from the french. The germans were determined to get their land back thanks to the "pace treaty".
@@user-vx3zb2gf2q don’t make a fool out of yourself. German generals laughed at ‘Russian resistance’ in 1941 - those were the easy victories while they were saying - only Poles fought like lions.
@@user-vx3zb2gf2q "to get their land back" ? Learn some history (not the putined one).
I think France and the French Army was a much bigger concern in Germany than anything Britain could throw at them in 1939. But of course, as the French had been proposing a tough stance on Germany all the time you could say that it was open if Britain would still be moderating like at Munich or at last had enough and follow the French tough stance.
Yes. More on that in the future.
Interesting as always !
Thanks!
Excellent video Stefan.
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I guess trying to look at events that were happening in 1939 with today’s perspective is like looking at the winning lottery numbers and thinking “why didn’t I know? “😂
Not really. Where a lottery is fully random here there were causes and results. You actually do not know how the puzzle will fall, but an estimated guess is possible.
@@HistoryHustle Good point sir. But i am thinking from the average person point of view, especially the generation that was not involved in the mess of 1914 to 1918.
@@HistoryHustle What about the ethnic cleansing of Germans in old German/new Polish territory? I thought that was the primary reason Germany intervened kinetically?
It is the human side of things which interest me the most. Thank you for this video and I look forward to similar content!
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Came across this video by pure chance. I've now subscribed. Next video of yours I watch won't be an accident
Welcome to the channel. What history are you most interested in?
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Good content. Objective and fair.
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This. It's not the same copy paste wikipedia spew the most other channels spew. You can feel hustles passion.
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The antiPolish sentiment developed under Otto von Bismarck when massive Germanisation of Polish lands under German occupation was done. Thise was part of the wider campaign of German unification.
True. But the anti Polish sentiment really started during the time of Frederick whom I don’t know why many call the Great as he was just a common a hole.
It was just memes of the day imo. Still exist today. Ethnic issues in Romania, Pole still hating on Germany, English still talking Anti German Rhetoric, The Meds are still jokingly considered Black. To think that this is a unique or unwarranted thing is just plain wrong.
Its the equivalent of 4chan meme and having Americans declare “day of the rake” on Canada. Its shitposting.
@@CodiiLuv Dear @Zoey. Thank you for your reply. There is some to what you say however most Poles I know get along with Germans quite fine, myself included. The anti-Polish sentiment was however a much more deliberate action to destroy people as a group for the land or to isolate Poles so that their anihilation would not result in international action. Government action was also involved such as banning Poles to build house on their land so that German colonists would be able to take over. Thanks for your reply again. Sayonara.
@Jan: it existed earlier, which I covered here:
ruclips.net/video/jdq_CqQisH4/видео.html
@@Polano11 very good statement - it’s exceptionally vile as it’s presenting Poles as the hateful ones (and they have all the reasons to hate Germans one could think of) while in reality it’s the Germans who have hated and bellitlled Poles for centuries, envying them...
I just gave my thumb up after seeing you with the helmet. Great history explanations and great sense of humour. Congratulations
Thanks David.
Good video man.
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There is currently a trend in history to focus attention on the terrible losses the Soviet Union endured in stopping Hitler and that this is something that this terrible sacrifice should be finally recognised and praised. I heard a radion program host become quite emotional and passionate about the apparent injustice of not acknowledging the Soviet sacrifice but what is not mentioned is that Hitler probably would not have invaded Poland, at least not at that time, without the agreement with the Soviet Union. So, yes, we should acknowledge the terrible suffering of the people of Russia, as should acknowledge the suffering of Germans and French etc., etc., but we should never confuse acknowledging the suffering of Russians with the crimes of the the Soviet leadership that enabled the onset of the first world war. What does emerge as a question is why did the Soviet want to remove the buffer between them and the Germans? Was it, as has been argued, because the Soviet's wanted the Second World so that they could be the saviours of Europe? Thanks for your informative content.
I don't see the current trend you mention. Think Soviet losses are often ignored. So as for your other claims build on this trend you see, I can't reflect on this cause I don't see the trend you mentioned.
Man, you all uplode interesting videos nearly simultaneously on Saturday but I happend to be a bit busy today. ;)
I just saw (and liked) your comment about Hans Frank and his son Niklas under Armchair Historian's latest video. Indy with the new episode of WW2 awaits his turn.
BTW does anybody else find that propaganda poster at 4:55 hilarious, concidering that the Teutonic Knight is supposed to be the "good guy" there? Just look at his face! Slightly creepy if you ask me.
I know right! Crazy poster it is. Thanks for your reply.
I'm enjioying your videos very much. It is so refreshing to explore the attitudes of the time of other nations.
Bedankt voor uw heel interessanten videos
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Great video Stefan! BTW, the the color of your tie blends in with your beard. It looks good!
Thanks :)
How did the Germans react in 1939? I would imagine in whatever way they were told to!
Feel free to watch the video to find out.
The lands that Germany lost at its eastern borders aftet IWW were for a thousand years called "Greater Poland". Lands stolen from Poland a century earlier. You had really missed the context
No since this video is about the German perspective.
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@@HistoryHustle welcome brother🙏
@@HistoryHustle brother can you do a video on little known killings of romani, Jehovah witness, LGBT, disabled
Fantastic video idea. I never thought about what the population's opinion of the war was. I always assumed they were happy and cheering the army on like in the WWI clips.
Thanks for your reply, Joan!
Thank you! I believe you , TIK and Mark Felton tell it like it is!
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I'm high and when I'm high I usually watch history videos in last few weeks.
You have cool hair and beard ( I'm sure you have nice bread in your country as well)
You have a cool map behind you and hopefully I won't take a nap while watching your videos
Thanks man and please don't sell your map and beard ( + buy some bread )
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From what I've read the german people where somewhat shocked to wake up Sept 1 only to find that they were now embroiled in a european war with poland. Even though hitler had been saying that he was going to invade poland. They were shocked by britain and frances entry into the war. They thought that this was going to stay as a regional conflict.
Indeed.
They shouted Heil Hitler and tried to figure out how to get hold of the apartment next door after the their
Jewish neighbors disappeared.
Please watch the video.
During a time when there was shortage of bad decisions, and sad times, I'll mention an example i did not hear mentioned. The French, and British along with the Poles (obviously the German knew as told by this video) knew Germany was certain to invade Poland. The bad decision/sad thing; France, and Britain implored upon Poland to not mobilize for war against Germany as that would be seen as 'provoking' Germany, as a result Poland was desperately unprepared for the German, and likewise the Russian attack from the East....
Can't really say France and England knew for certain Germany was going to attack. Hitler did believe he would get away with it. Perhaps the USSR also knew of the German attack (since they signed a pact). Interesting theory.
@@HistoryHustle I’m shocked you are not aware that both UK and France had spies in Germany and they knew about Ribbentrop Molotov pact instantly at the moment it was signed (including the secret clauses)...
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3:19 The plebescite idea wouldn't work well for Hitler since those areas were inhabited by a vast Polish majority, which harbored strong anti-German sentiments. Overall Germans constituted less than 10% of the population there.
Agree, yes.
Where do you have your figures from ? The Polish annexed German regions had a roughly 60% German population which does not mean that 40% were Poles as at least 20% were mixed but in favour of Germany. I know this from my grandmother. After WWI ca. 1mio were terrorized by Poland to leave for Germany which shifted of course the population ration.
@@berndf.k.1662 Better question is where did you get your data from? According to 1921 Polish census the Pomeraniaon Voidedivoship was inhabited by 935.643 people including 81%; (757.801) Poles and 18,8%; (175.771) Germans, even the German census confirms Polish majority in the area:
"Karl Andree, "Polen: in geographischer, geschichtlicher und culturhistorischer Hinsicht" (Leipzig 1831), gives the total population of West Prussia as 700,000 - including 50% Poles (350,000), 47% Germans (330,000) and 3% Jews (20,000)"
"According to the German census of 1910, in areas that became Polish after 1918, 42 percent of the populace were Germans (including German military, officials and colonists), while the Polish census of 1921 found 19 percent of Germans in the same territory.
Contemporary sources in late 19th and early 20th centuries gave the number of Kashubians between 80,000-200,000."
None of the sources quotes Germans as a ethnic group with 60% majority.
@@berndf.k.1662 Oh, you're German, nevermind then
@@berndf.k.1662 Beside the fact that you Grandmother was wrong about the number, could you remind me why Germans occupied ethnically Polish lands like Wielkopolska (Greaterpoland) or Polish Pomerania? Have you grandmother mentioned this to you en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_deportations ? That's probably the reason why she lived in the Polish lands.
Interesting topic.
Thanks!
this was a very fair explanation. Respect.
Thanks for your reply.
WW1 veteran shit here we go again.
Kinda.
It is very interesting to learn about what was happening on the other side because history is known to be written by the victors. Thanks for the video.
Thank you for replying!
As the World War periods moves further out of our collective memory due to age, I am excited by what will happen when the historians of tomorrow are able to view this period of European history with a fresh, less ideological, less emotional pair of eyes. I have always believed that our recollection of events was way too defensive, far too content to pin all the blame on Hitler, and perhaps too close to the flames to see the fire. There is a litany and a wealth of literature that is challenging our older assertions and takes a more methodical histographical look at events. I am eagerly awaiting new writings on this period of history with glee. Theories of war that exclude leadership, such as constructivist theories, should make for great reading on this topic. Likewise, there is often little consideration for the German viewpoint, other than token passages that insist millions of adults were easily "brainwashed". Perhaps new literature might shed a better light on more tangible reasons why Germany chose the path that it did, why the Allies headed down a war path, and so many other questions that I feel have never been adequately addressed. I think 100 years is the benchmark age for time between a revolutionary event and unbiased histories of it to emerge. Hopefully channels like @History Hustle will be the vanguard for a new kind of historiography on the subject with new conclusions, new subjects, new interpretations, and new viewpoints.
Nonsense. While you might be not aware of it Germany had many highly reputable historians after WWII who assessed their own history calmly and objectively. Your own ignorance (it took you until 2021 to learn from RUclips about German attitudes during the war even though multiple history books were written on the subject?) is no excuse.
History is written by historians
Subbed...this is a fascinating subject. I wonder how many of the German people at the end of the war still believed in Hitlers grand plan or that after defeat, they realised (trying to word this right... and failing) that Hitler was wrong
Welcome to the channel! Feel free to check out the playlist I made, since there are others topics I covered from the German perspective:
ruclips.net/video/4TlKvJ52TZk/видео.html
How do we "tune in" as you called it, or even tune out as this is the internet and not tuneable?
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It's alway's economic intrest behind every conflict. Always try to found out the lead issue behind that.
Hitler's goal was to be autarkic. That's some sort of economy yes.
It was a economical conflict.
The Fnglish supported the Poles with weapons. The Poles had to pay with coal. Coal was as important at that time as nowadays oil. Locomotives, ships, industry were running on coal. Dockworkers at Gdansk refused to unload the armes from the Fnglish. Therefore the Poles created a harbor at Gdynia on Polish soil and build, with credits from Paris and London the Magistrala Weglowa. This caused business for Gdansk to drop. The Reich had the only functioning economy at that time while Gdansk was in a desperate situation. Gdansk had no hinterland anymore. This was the reason why the nazis wanted a corridor to Gdansk.
Due to the Fnglish intrigues to create a war negotiation were not possible.
Bankers in London and Paris hampered these negotiations.
As a consequence the Germans attacked the Poles !
Since the bankers feared for their credits the Fnglish and French declared war.
@@bubiruski8067 "The reich has the only functioning economy" ?
German debt trippled in 6 years and were facing cash shortages when they had to start paying Mefo Bills.
Their long term plan was to sustain german autarchy with resources they will seize in eastern invaded lands. So war and invasion is in a way a part of the Reich economy ...
@@bubiruski8067 Support of Poland by France and UK is a direct result of Hitler invasion of czech land in march 39. An invasion that happened 6 months after the Reich was given Sudetenland, while Hitler promised that he will stop making territorial claims.
It took less than a year to see how he respected his promises ...
@@alexandredelneste270 Concerning economy. I continue to believe it is better to have debts than starving kids. Certainly the nazis financed their rearmament but they also improved the infrastructure of Germany.
The workers got fair wages, there was food on the table and the kids got free education up to university level when gifted.
At the same time the rest of the world was in deep depression.
Fnglish and US mothers fed their kids with hacked dog.
The idea of Germans looting something in east is very questionable.
What did eastern countries have worth looting ?
Does the Dutchman still wear wooden shoes?
Nope. Perhaps only farmers.
@@HistoryHustle That is the title of a Steve Goodman song my Mom played often as I was a kid. It was c1970 American folk music. He is the son of Benny Goodman, a famous big bandleader in the '30s &'40s. All his songs are about someone or something, but as a kid I couldn't figure out the Dutchman song.
I see!
Interesting stuff.
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Thank you Stefan for this very illuminating video . The way you have portrayed the atmosphere in Germany on the eve of war , is remarkably unique. The anticipation , the apprehension ,the disquiet , the stoic acceptance of what was coming , is in stark contrast to what is given out by the ‘conventional’ , ‘highly coloured’’, accounts . The charged social atmosphere that one finds in most (English language) narratives , seems to reflect a hopeful buoyancy in the public mood , after the humiliations , frustrations ,and suffering that the double calamity of Versailles and financial crash had wrought , and certainly were not an expression of war hysteria , as it is given out .
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The title as it is is misleading due to the fact that Germany started the war.
Please explain.
@@HistoryHustle Who started the war?
@Fabian Kirchgessner Who started the war?
It was necessary for the Nazi régime and/or the German Generals to surrender unconditionally in order to bring home to the German people that they had lost the War by themselves; so that their defeat should not be attributed to a "stab in the back".
- John Wheeler-Bennett
They sure didn't want another 1918.
Excellent
Thanks!
Excited to find out the History Hustle take on this, 🔔🔔 reminder set 👍✌️
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At the outbreak of WW1 there was great excitement and expectation. In 1939 the loss of WW! and the brutal reckoning of the ToV were still humilitating memories. The vast majority of Germans did support Dolphy's sales pitch of WW2 being designed to reclaim lost territory and thereby they supported the war.
Definitely worth the wait till Saturday to find out.
Indeed, a big difference.
Exaclty what he said in this video
@@bpdbhp1632 Thanks. btw Stefan is an extremely smart man
And when the Germans invaded Poland the Germans sealed their fait and Germany was crushed to total rubble and devastation .
In 1945 yes.
Long way to wait
Tomorrow!
Intressant filmpje! 👍
Dank, Alex!
I wonder howcome Russia joined Nazi germanies push into Poland taking your lessons in mind. Germany had a rationale for invading Poland. What was Russia's rationale? And how did Konigsberg end up in Russia's hands if it was German. It would be more logical to give it to Poland, not to the other agressor?
Actually I covered heaps of this on my channel. Here about the Nazi Soviet Pact: ruclips.net/video/yuXMR8RDFow/видео.html
Here about Germany's territorial evolution: ruclips.net/video/sfYXSy9Gkkw/видео.html
@@HistoryHustle Major thx, I just finished watching it. It answered most of my questions. Only the question on why Russia received Kaliningrad is not clear to me. It seems that without the Von Ribbentrop/Molotov pact WW2 would not have started. Also Russia joined the Nazi's in the occupation spree of Europe. Seems they are both guilty. That Russia changed its mind after a few years shouldn't entitle them to payments. Well, not to me.I subscribed, your way of concise information delivery is great and easy to understand. I will try and watch all your vids. Thx for doing this teach!
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@@QnA22 well - of course you are right. We Poles know perfectly well that WWII was started hand in hand with both allies - Germany and Russia. The second one avoided any punishment and as you are rightly claiming - stole Koenigsberg (or rather Krolewiec) as an unsinkable aircraft carrier which is being used to block the whole Baltic region.
But what can we do? USA will not send their troops to die for it..
It would be interesting if you'd start making videos about the pacific front or africa
Perhaps you find this one interesting:
ruclips.net/video/P0DQNSipiuA/видео.html
@@HistoryHustle True
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My grand-grandfather fought in the April war 41 in Yugoslavia.They fought as partizans and chetniks.
Interesting. I hope to cover more on that topic in the future!
The crimes were more than "alleged", my great-grandmother (born in 1927 and still alive) was born in the Sudetenland and she told me about it.
I see. Do notice, Sudetenland was in Czechslovakia. This video is about Poland. How does your great-grandmother looks back at the war? What were her experiences? Love to know more about this.
One could say the same about the discrimination of Polish minority in Germany, which was very much a thing and only increased after the NSDAP took power.
@@Radonatorr Well no shit. I'm just tired of the ongoing one-sided narrative that is shoved down my throat since I can remember. Guess what, the world is not black and white, never was - never will be. I took a lot of time to break the surface and read into it.
The whole "Germany = bad, how could they?!" narrative is just lazy and plain stupid. I could write an essay about it, but I won't bother.
You would have to start way early to get a glimpse of everything tbh.
But for everyone interested in the whole topic I can recommend: "Churchill, Hitler and the unnecessary war" by Patrick J. Buchanan and "1939 - Der Krieg der viele Väter hatte" by Gerd Schultze-Rhonhoff (sorry I don't know the english title of the latter). Very insightful and also tries to explain the german side of the whole ordeal.
Yes, imagine if some history youtuber were to say "alleged holocaust", yet when it comes to crimes against Germans its "alleged" or "exaggerated"
Please read a book.
I was with the US army back in the 70s in Germany and the people told me at the time, they had not been optimistic about the war started,
because the people who lived through the first world war recanted painful memories of it.
The feeling changed after the English and French were defeated. Everyone was euphoric. (Press Read more)
They remembered seeing in movie theaters the newsreel of Hitler signing the surrender terms with the French .
When Hitler attacked Russia everyone thought he would win hands down in a very short time.
In the very beginning of the invasion, wounded soldiers came back to Germany
and were telling their families the Russians stay and fight and it's a whole different war.
Than in 1943 wounded soldiers came back from the Russian front explained what was really going on
and from newscasts they got from the BBC radio channel that was being sent to Germany,
made them realize that the war was over and it was just a matter of time.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing, Kevin!
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I didn’t realize the British were ever defeated in World War II
@@DanLetts97 I do not know if:
(1) You really don't know.
(2) You're making a joke.
(3) You have a habit of showing superiority by correcting someone on a technicality. (Press Read more)
I think it's simple to understand that I mean that the English and the French army were defeated and they had to evacuate at Dunkirk.
Truth is the first casualty of war
Many times yes.
The soviets also invaded Poland the same week as Germany, why was no action taken by the western allies against the Soviet Union?
More on that here:
ruclips.net/video/VBd60UsL9u0/видео.html
Important thing to add - lands owned by Germany before WW1 belonged to Poland first.
Correct, do notice: I was careful in selecting the words and:
- by no means stated these areas were historically/ethnicly German,
- made a video from the German perspective.
Indeed but many towns and villages were also German for hundred of years so it was quite a tricky situation.
I guess this wasn't a problem in feudalistic times but when nationalism was invented with "all people in one state", all these ethnic enclaves were disasters to happen, but i gues nobody would've thought how much of a disaster it's going to be.
@@zoomerboomer1396 which ones do you mean? Poznań? Wrzesnia or Bydgoszcz? Or maybe Gdańsk? Well even with Gdansk with so many Germans due to Polish tolerance and Germanisation policies during partitions - it was still a Polish city with German majority. That is why League of Nations took the decision it did
The German expansion beyond the Elbe river starts in 1200. How long do you want to go back to call these places Polish?
@@peterl5804 - any more strawman ‘arguments’? It’s like 400 kms between Elbe and Poznań... and I wasn’t talking about Berlin, Leipzig nor Cottbus... mind you all of those cities do have Slavic names as you had rightly noticed. But they are not the ones I talked about in my previous posts...
As a German, this hits different🥺
Also great Video😉👍
Thank you for your honest reply.
No offense but it would be very weird to live in a country that was the most hated at one point in time. Is there any instances where you get treated differently for Germany's past? ( I sincerely hope not.)
@@yommmrr In many countries, people don't even know about the atrocities done by the Germans and they only see the conquering of half of Europe. But when they hear about the whole story, they either hate Germans from that point on, or they don't care because it's in the past. In countries, neighboring Germany, the people treat Germans like everyone else, until, the German government does anything they don't like. In that scenario it's always like that: "Germans are opressing Europe again" or something similar. Besides that, we're very often confronted with our past, being it the News or School and even in Pop Culture. Another thing for example is, that more and more people in the former DDR or GDR are voting for Germanys politically right party, the AfD or Alternative for Germany, and you often think about that with our past in your Head. I for my part, do not want a too far left based Government, but I don't want Germany to be like earlier again, U know? In the future, I'm not very concerned about that topic, because a huge part of Germanys youth is of foreign descent, so the connection to the old Germany is shrinking. We just have to keep reminding everyone, that this should never happen again and we should be nice to everyone. Now, coming back to your question: No, it's not weird, it's just a circumstance.
@@samkangal8428 U know what, be happy with what we have ...
Thanks for the replies. Very interesting to hear that some people dont know of the holocaust. As a Australian, European politics with so many countries so close together is strange.
Uw Engels gaat extreem mooi vooruit, ik had ik denk ongeveer 8 maand geleden, een reactie onder een video van u, en zij dat ik het gevoel had dat je Nederlands was door het accent. Nu ik dit weer luister en met extreme interesse kijk, was ik aan het twijfelen of u daadwerkelijk Nederlands was of dat u een geintje maakte dat u Nederlands was, oftewel kort samen gevat, het Nederlandse accent is weg.
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mmmm.... erblijft toch nog een beetje holandse neusklank over 😁😁😁 maar de info is perfect.... weinig mensen weten iets over danzig en de " coŕridor " waarvan ik zelfs heb vernomen da t er zelf een luchtbrug naar toe heeft bestaan ?... de geschiedenis word geschreven dor de overwinnaars....
when you described Slovakia as a puppet state to nazi germany a striking resemblance flashed my mind to how similar it is to the current Syrian-Russian relations during the last decade.
Could be very well the case. Don't know much about how things in Syria are going on as we speak. I do know Syrian volunteers fight on the Russian side. I've also heard about Syrians fighting on Ukraine's side.
@@HistoryHustle if you dont mind i will be honored to speak with you whether online or face to face in depth about the Syrian war and how different layers and factors are involved in the escalation of war like religion, history, oppression, other countries’ interests, discrimination and classes divition
I worked as a prison guard in the US, and one time I came into contact with a prisoner who was from Poland. One of the questions I asked was if the German population had been absorbed into the Polish community, and he said, No, they keep to themselves. They do their best to keep German blood German. His terms were different than I wrote because I have no idea how to spell what he actually said. When I asked about the Russians keeping a part of East Prussia, his reply was the the Russians keeping that only showed how much they hate Germany.
There is no German community in Poland anymore
They were all expelled
@@jonathanwilliams1065 Perhaps some returned. He didn't say there were a lot, he only said those there kept to a German community.
Believe there is still a small community of Germans in Poland.
@@HistoryHustle yes there is - they even have two representatives in Polish parliament with several dozen thousands of German minority in Poland while 2 million Poles in German have zero representation in German parliament. Germans never change...
@@KrissowskiM the poles in Germany are all recent immigrants though so they’re not interested in German politic
Many of the regions which belonged to the German Empire before WW1 were originally Polish. They were annexed during the Partitions of Poland at the end of 18th century. The mentioned western region (around Poznan/Posen) was a core region of Poland from 10th century. So saying that they were taken over from Germany sound like they were historically/ethnicly German to begin with.
Correct, do notice: I was careful in selecting the words and:
- by no means stated these areas were historically/ethnicly German,
- made a video from the German perspective.
@@HistoryHustle Noticed. The comment was rather meant for people who do not have this knowledge and who could interpret the presented info as: German land has been given to Poland.
I understand.
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You should mention the ethnic situation in lands claimed by Germany, to give German territorial demands better context.
This video is about the German perspective, who ignored the ethnic situation, since most areas had a majority of Poles.
@@HistoryHustle West Prussia which made up a big chunk of the Polish Corridor had in 1910 between 36-43% ethnic Poles, i don't think Poles gained a big majority there after WW1. Poland as a whole at that time didn't even had that much of a Polish majority, it was like 60% Polish with huge German and Jewish minorities. In hindsight it probably would've been better to move a few population groups around before creating Poland again after WW1, a Jewish state in central Europe would've been amazing.
@@zoomerboomer1396Data for West Prussia included military personnel, administration and the city of Dazig, as well as a lot of land not incorporated into Poland, Pomeranian Voivodeship was in 81% Polish (1921).
Population of Poland was in 70% , not 60% Polish, with the only significant minority being Ukrainians (13%). Jewish population was at 7% unevenly spread trough large urban areas, so if you think that "a Jewish state in central Europe would've been amazing." You have absolutely no what you're talking about.
If you want to quote numbers make sure you get them right
@@HistoryHustle I think it makes sense to show if the demands were justified or not.
@@vincivice.checkmybeats.1758 kip is a neonazi or manipulated with nazi propaganda. He has been entirely debunked in another thread
Churchill famously said “The German is either at your feet or at your Throat !”
No country was harmed more than Poland !
@Charles: this is whataboutism. Ron's comment is about Poland and Germany.
@Charles Martel nope whatism is the correct term employed here.
@Charles Martel oh... you have poor German and Austrian friends who suffer... well - I don’t have and never met my grandparents who died in Warsaw uprising. I feel so sorry for your friends....
And my country has missed the industrial revolution because it was enslaved by Germany, Austria and Russia for 120 years prior to WWI...
Poor friends of yours - you met them on holidays at Maledives?
Beste Stefan ken je de Balfour declaration?
Jazeker.
The public were probably rolling their eyes saying here we go again
Kinda, yes.