They been shooting 8k+ content for years with RED cameras and other similar cameras. Most newer phones can shoot in 8k. 8k gaming been around for years.
@@NextNate03 They film 8k only to have space for re-framing the shot in post and the. They still deliver in 4k. There is no native 8k content. I work in the industry and that's not a thing yet. The "8k" shot on phones is low BitRate and looks like ass. And 8k gaming only exists with multi thousand dollar computers with modded games. There's no native developer made 8k games shipping. ESPECIALLY not on consoles. Stop making shit up.
We need to get a breakthrough in storage first and high speed broadband/internet needs to come to more people at a affordable price. Because 8K content takes up a lot of space. I mean, we don't even have real 4K in many instances. Netflix and other streaming services are heavily compressed. 4K movies are like 4-5 times lower bitrate than a 4K blu-ray. They need to get higher bitrates of their content first before they even think about getting real 8K content on their services. 8K games can come earlier if they invent new disc to store the all the data and they don't rush to be only digital. Not likely
Over the years I've learned that the key to enjoy what I buy is to actually use it. If you spend time using things instead of watching review channels for entertainment, you will save yourself a lot of money and stress.
@@greendusk93 Chasing 8k is truely not a good idea right now, 4k 60hz or even 120hz for ultra smoothness should be the focus, upscaling will sometimes have some artifacts so we should focus on something we can do.
I still have my 15 year old Samsung 50” Full HD plasma TV and the colours are amazing. I will only replace it when it finally breaks. I don’t understand people’s need to constantly replace a perfectly good product just because something new comes along. Appreciate what you have!
i was just about to come on here and basically write the same exact post! 2010 Samsung plasma 3D tv for me....hasn't shown any wear or tear yet, and it gets used a lot daily from family members!
I have an old ass "4k" Westinghouse TV that was sitting around in my office closet (it was going to be my WFH ticket monitoring monitor) and my wife and I redid our backyard this summer so I took an old rolling stand and put it out there and using that TV out there. If it gets ruined then so be it. I have a 65 inch curved Samsung I got as an open box back in 2015 that iny bedroom, and I threw a Chromecast with Google TV on it and it works perfect for a bedroom tv
You take good care of your TV wow! I replace a tv when I see bright spots or damaged pixels. I get those when the TV is old anyways so buying new is fine with me.
Still rocking a 2014 Vizio E65-C3 and it works perfectly. I’m glancing at new TV’s, but not really looking. Maybe in another year or two, but as long as this one continues to work great, I feel no pressure and have no FOMO.
But that won’t do for the companies that want to make more money. They need bigger numbers to sell TVs to people who already have 4K. They have to find ways to convince people they’re missing out on something they’re not really missing out on.
I agree to an extent but as a pc gamer I’ve been playing 4k for a hot min. My 3090 runs 4k fine and so does the 4080 super and 4090. Heck even the 4070ti super runs games in 4k and you can use FSR or DLSS as needed. Consoles will always use upscaling and they are damn good at it. There are 8k TVs that aren’t crazy expensive. People need to learn how to shop and buy day one on everything lol.
No. Games are suffering in 4k. I think developers are making it wrong. The fetiche now is 60fps. I would make every game 1440p that it is very good, closer to 4k than most people want to admit, put hdr that makes miracles and try to play it in 60fps.
Well jokes on you almost every single modern game Target a resolution significantly below 4K and often below 1080p internally, most often at 60 but sometimes at 30. Always 30 if you lock it to 4K.
@@julbiot9768 the hell they can't! 60 fps looks extremely choppy to me. It's like the difference between melted butter and Michael J Fox holding the camera
I'm pretty sure Sony removed the 8K logo more recently. Oddly, The Touryst supposedly renders internally at 8K on PlayStation 5 but downscales to 4K because Sony hasn't enabled 8K output for PlayStation 5 via system update.
Who the hell is upgrading their tv after only 5 years? People keep complaining about the income inequality and how their wages haven't increased but will have the latest and greatest phones, cameras, laptops, consoles, tvs, and cars.
Thanks! Very timely, Have the 5 year old 6 Series TCL 65, want to go to 75 TCL M8 or Hisense U8. But, I am confused by negative comments regarding the ADS Pro Panel on 75 Hisense. Was "Shower contemplating" if would get noticable improvement... TCL had zero problems so they I guess earned my brand loyalty..
Even PS6 won't be powerful enough to do AAA games at 8K at 60fps so PS5 Pro certainly won't be, Gran Turismo has an 8K mode but that's upscaled and nowhere near 8K native res, i think 8K may take off when PS7 is out, it's only just about becoming a reality on PC when the 5090 is out, but even then 99% of people will prefer to play at 4K/120fps+ or 4K/60fps with path tracing. Hopefully by the time PS7 is out there's some reasonably priced 8K OLEDs.
Most people unless gaming in 1440p or 4k are using DLSS, FSR and frame generation now and it’s just fine. You can natively game at 1440p and 4k at 60-120 FPS no problem now depending on your hardware. The 4090 can already game native 8k in some titles and def with DLSS. People said the same thing about 1080p a long time ago. 4k is mastered and the 5090 is dropping in January. ( not that it will be cheap) Some people buy civics some people buy lambos. It’s all about the wallet.
Bought a QLED 8k tv as open box about four years ago. Greatest purchase ever. I don’t need an upgrade for another P years at least unless I want something bigger than 85”.
I have seen some crazy results with upscaling, I play with it a ton, recently my most successful method has been letting the device upscale 480p to 1080p and then let the tv upscale the 1080p to 4k. I only have theories on why this looks so “good” but try it, try it, try it.
As a calibrator, myself….. Well done!!! Great explanation of Display referred light. I’m sure it would be fun for viewers to hear more about Scene referred light and how films are mastered by CI Colorists.
Thanks for addressing my question...I am considering moving up from my 65" 2018 Vizio P65 Quantum, to either the 65" Hisense U8 or maybe the LG evo G4 ( If I can get a good black Friday deal).
A few months ago I upgraded my 65" LG C9, which I bought right after the CX came out, to a 77" G3 right after the G4 came out. I wanted a 77" last time but was I was far more budget constrained and this time around I was able to find a refurbished G3 for "only" $2,689. Still expensive, but waaaay cheaper than launch price. The biggest difference I noticed, aside from size, was brightness. The C9 was a great TV but it handled reflections terribly and needed a dark room to really pop. What really pushed me to upgrade was the anti-glare performance of the G3 and most of all the massive brightness gains you get from MLA.
I don't see huge 8K demand since graphics in gaming has reached good enough. Most gamers choose better frame rate over better graphics that why PS5 Pro was made for. Future demand for gaming is going to be 4K with higher frame.
I also have a 65X950G, but have a strong desire to go up a size class. I live in Canada so 77" OLED's are north of $4000, and I can get a 75" QM8 for under $2000 which is very appealing.
If you wanted to stay in the Sony family you can get an x90l for $1,500. Go look up Caleb’s review from a year ago. He gave it a very favorable review as did a couple of other well known reviewers. Fomo and HDTVtest are two.
As Caleb stated, the 65X950G is a solid TV, I doubt you'd get a noticeable improvement from going for a QM8. You'd be better off trying to find a good deal on an unused 75X95L on stores that still count with "old" stock, if the urges of upsizing are too strong, that is.
You are correct, again, Caleb. I have an 11 year-old Samsung 75" 3D TV which was Top of the Top in 2013, married to a Samsung BD-J6300 3D Wi-Fi 4K UHD Upscaling Smart Blu-ray ( wired ), which (like a PS) Upscales BIG TIME!! Even Netflix and especially VuDu/Fandango HDX/4K look WAY BRIGHTER and CLEARER and "upscaled" beyond the TV Apps and Roku 4K Ultra plugged directly into the TV! Thanks for all your Reviews Caleb.
TL;DR, immediate TV upgrades just for game consoles are not a great idea considering we don’t yet know what they’re truly capable of. Tbh I kinda don’t get upgrading your TV in *preparation* for new gaming hardware. It’s one thing to upgrade your hardware and *then* your monitor or whatever to take advantage of it, or even upgrading your TV to be ready for a new higher-res format, but… like… gaming and media are two different beasts when it comes to specs. Formats like DVD or Blu-Ray are generally set to a specific resolution across all media on it. All DVDs are 480p; All (non-4k) Blu-Rays are 1080p. Buying Blu-Rays wasn’t a good idea if you didn’t have an HDTV to go with it. 4k Blu-Rays weren’t going to be actually useful if you didn’t have a 4k display. The only exception to the rule is any format released on SDTVs (VHS, LaserDisc, DVD), since they were all still built around the analog SDTV systems up until DVD, which basically maxed those specs out. Also, any release that includes a disc for last-gen players would generally still be good to buy for future proofing, incase you were at least considering upgrading your TV. Gaming hardware, at least consoles, on the other hand, is designed to work with all kinds of different resolutions, but more importantly, you normally buy the consoles for *new games.* These new games can often be enjoyed on the same TV as before, but if it’s on a console that can support a higher resolution, then you have a reason to upgrade your TV down the line. In 2005, while you could upgrade to an HDTV right away, you could still play (eg.) Perfect Dark Zero on your brand new Xbox 360 perfectly fine on your old CRT that you used to play (eg.) Perfect Dark on your N64 on. With TV hardware mutating at an alarming cancer-like rate in the 2010s and on, it seems like a bad idea to just hop on a new HDMI version or whatever on the off chance your new console will be powerful enough to regularly support it. I thought it was silly whenever people were panicking over the whole HDMI 2.0 vs 2.1 thing leading up to the new consoles. Forget the present and the whole “optimization” disaster; even then, very few games supported both 4k and 120hz at the same time. It was only ever a problem because the systems can’t just switch between 4k60 and 1440p120 per game. Now… well… yeah… And here we are on this video and in the two months since, I heard the PS5 Pro can’t even output 8k, upscaled or not.
Caleb, I think your view on upgrading from a mid tier vs a high-end tv has some sense in it. Here's my example: I upgraded from a 55 inch 2017 Sony A1E OLED (which I bought in 2018) to a 65 inch A95L OLED in the beginning of this years and whilst I noticed some quite remarkable updates in picture quality I must say the difference wasn't mind-blowing in any means especially if we consider I am quite a tv nerd myself and also that it was a size upgrade as well. I would argue that 4-5 years is the minimum time you should wait to upgrade a tv, especially if you are already owning a high-end one from previous generations. Upgrading one after 1-2 years is completely unnessecary, and I also think this is the case regarding almost every consumer electronics.
I will keep my TVs until they break. I have 2 CRT TVs that I won't throw away because they work. I'm willing to give one of them away and sell the other one but I refuse to trash them. I also have a LG 42" LCD 1080p TV from 2010 that is still working in the bedroom. It was a higher end model when new and still has very good color but there is DSE and brightness is not ideal. My LR TV was upgraded to a Samsung 55" 4K LED TV from 2019. I kept having issues with connecting my PC and AVR to it. It also had very bad off angle picture and weak HDR. Everything about it worked as a TV, so I gave it to my younger daughter and bought a LG C1 65" OLED TV. I got that TV 2 years ago and love it. Hopefully it will last 10+ years like my other LG did. It has 10,000 hours of use and no degradation visible or signs of burn-in. BTW, my mother in law had a 50" LG LED 1080p TV, in between my 42" LG and 55" Samsung 4k that was a bad TV, so not all LG TV's have been positive.
My 2007 50inch 720p samsung plasma finally died 2 weeks ago. I just replaced it with a 75inch Hisense mini led 4k. Obviously a huge difference in picture quality etc. But the thing that really amazed me was that the new tv cost exactly 50% of what i had paid for the 17 yesr old Samsung, and weighed half as much as well. A 50 inch plasma @ $2,200 and 109lbs vs the new 75inch Hisense @ $1,100 and 60lbs. Chasing technology is hard enough to keep up with and upgrading my cell phone, tablets and computers every few years, so i tend to get more longevity out of my tvs and sound systems 😊
Is the 15 yr old Sony LCD a high end Bravia ? If it’s Bravia n it’s mostly a SHARP Aquos (Aquos is high end ) with SONY logo . Sony used to buy Samsung LCD as Bravia (now they buy LG OLED as Sony ) . Then 2008 Sony ditched Samsung n had Partnership with Sharp TV . Becusee Sharp was more advanced . Sony’s high performance TVs Bravia were Sharp tv with SONY OS /Logo :) 2010-2011-- 💯% Global LEDs were made by (Sharp Tv n Sharp Aquos - high end ) D same way that SONY’s 💯 OLED been made by LG for years . 2014 Hisense bought Sharp , 2018 Hisense bought Toshiba . If u see Hisense U7N U8N(high end Google panel , not their cheap Roku ) in store u will be Blown away . 😊
@@Yoga_Tv_buying cool info. I do remember seeing some nice aquos panels back in those years. Are you referring to when Sony used V/W/X letter prefixes to the models? There were flagship XBR model series that were excellent in the lcd tube lit days
@@Dan_d00d I don’t remember but might be - sony KDL models . So when Sharp announced “ We r first time mass selling LED “ at CES 2010 ….. it broke the Internet . All brands panic , went to Sharp to Mass order LED . Becusee no other brands had the technology or Machine /factory ready for LED. their Low end -- LED models were made by Sharp , The High end Bravia were made by Sharp Aquos factories . Since 2008 Sony Sharp partnership , when Sharp Announced the LED launch @2010, Sony already was on d Same Boat as Sharp, so they were able to get 1st Dip. But Sharp kept the BEST LEDs in house . They r called -- Quatrum (Qua means 4 in Latin ) It has 🟥🟨🟦🟩 4 BASE color as blend . So they could produce 99% color human eyes can see . :):) I had 2 of those in my house 46” n 60”. They make all 1080P - auto looks 2k to 3k by its superior Hardware !!! U do NOT need “Upscaling “ guessing . No joke , over 4 years ppl kept waking to my house WOW by it . N asking “Why is my Dad’s brand new $3000 SONY look so much worse than yr 4 yr old tv ?” 📺 at time I was not into TV I just thought it’s mistake
Thanks for following up on my question I really appreciate it. I will say that watching this channel and learning the ins and outs of TV technology really gives you perspective. Can you do a video closer to Black Friday that goes over the TV deals you think we should consider? I know Spring is a better time to purchase a TV but would appreciate your insight on the deals this year. Have a great day.
THE DEPTH OF RESPONSE = loving it! Great Ep Caleb. I think this is finally the time I may put my own Q out to you after things said in this one touched so closely onto the areas I often wonder.
I'm been running a LG B7 55" since early 2018, it still has the ability to amaze me with good quality Dolby Vision/HDR content so I don't think I need to upgrade yet from a quality point of view but I do wish I'd bought the bigger 65" screen at the time. (I was upgrading from a 37" Panasonic LED television so the 55" seemed huge!)
I love that episode and the questions. They were really relevant and interesting. I just wish that there were more questions answered. I think this one was a bit special because one of the questions did require a lot of time to explain so I understand.
Come on people I have a LG 2012 model 47SL4500-UD it’s 12 years old and it still work fine for video games and I bought it from a friend for $20 at the time because he was moving out to Bakersfield so basically he almost give it to me for free with these thousands of dollars tv’s now in day I just like watching people buying these tv but yeah I wish I could buy one can’t afford it. Now and days everything seems to be too expensive for me.. I’m happy for people that could afford it. I just want to say congrats to all of you that have new tv’s and say god blessed you all.
We are at least 4 generations of graphics cards away from playable 8k. The current rtx4090 can only get high teens fps at 4k with full path tracing without dlss. That's including the upcoming 50 series. So the rtx9090 might see playable 8k with path tracing. So for consoles, expect it to be even longer than that.
I like the topics discussed and how you packaged the related questions together. This let you go into detail with your responses. Caleb, you really enjoyed the color explanation and it was good to see that excitement from you!
😊except he LEFT OUT - critical part of eye color cone science ! 🧬 There 2X -- cones (color sensors in eyes )👀 for warm color than Cool 🆒 tone . Since the SONY LG WOLED r Severly blue tinted , n their LEDs r also more blue tinted than other brands . Their WOLED will look like Winter 🥶 color or thunder storm 🌩️ Moody blue by default vs Hisense /Samsung that r Real Natural rich color :) Omission :) 😊
I'm still using my 2009 46" B8500 Samsung local dimming TV. The pictures still looks fine. I know prices have dropped as stores are looking to phase out models. But anytime I think about dropping close to $1000 on a new TV, something happens and I have to pay for something else. Plus with the holidays approaching, there's shopping for family and air travel. So once again, this luxury has to wait. I like the thin to zero bezel of today's panels since mine has a bezel of about 2-3 inches. But that's still not enough to compel me to buy as long as it keeps working.
I would pay to watch a "how to" step by step video of ur specific calibration process, seems very user friendly compared to the $60k worth of equipment required from other RUclipsr tutorials 🙏🏽
I have an off subject question I'm having a problem with PS5 hook up to a AV receiver strictly with apps like RUclips The center channel will not play the only way I get it to play is to put it on two channel and linear PCM
Ps5 Pro won't be able to run vast majority of games in 8K either. Only very, very few and very small games with low fisual fidelity will be able to run at 8K in any playable framerate
@@Maximus2261 it can but it requires Sony to push out an update to allow the PS5 to output 8K through HDMI 2.1 which right now Sony isn’t doing because there’s no need yet.
What happened to TVs lasting 10, 20 years or more before having to even think about replacing them? I remember my Parents, Aunts & Uncles, and Grandparents having the same TVs what seems like my whole life growing up. I just bought a TV 4 years ago and I already need to replace it due to burn in. It's an LG C1.
Yeah my Sony KDL-40EX400 from 2010 is still going strong at "only" 1080p, and it still looks fine. Good, actually. The additional resolution at 4K, especially at the small sizes I'm considering, is not the draw. It's HDR. I want a TV that can make the colors pop more. I'd really like more manufacturers (*cough* Hisense) to make mini-LED TVs at 50" and below. Some of us have space constraints, even in our living rooms. If I did get a larger TV, I would want to use it as a monitor too from a long distance so I can work from it too and get rid of my desk. I work from home, and every inch of floor and wall space is at a premium. My desk is quite literally standing in the way of getting a bigger TV...but what if I could get rid of it? Why haven't we figured out how to set up rooms so we can use big TVs to work from the couch? I do know another concern would be the webcam since I do a lot of video calls. Another possibility, if it worked reliably, would be wireless HDMi so I could use my work laptop from the couch while having the TV across the room as a secondary monitor. In that sense, more resolution is better for more multitasking.
I want upgrade to lg c4 77 inch, but what to do with my Samsung 65 inch mu8000 what do people do with there old tvs . I do not have the room to move it to.
I live in Scotland and recently bought the Hisense U8N however in the setting the AI upscaling is greyed out and says currently unavailable? Is this something that's coming in an upgrade as I thought this was a standard for this type of TV?
Personally, I would rather companies focus on lenticular 3D, like Looking Glass, than 8K. A 75 inch Looking Glass would be amazing. Yes, I realize that is orders beyond 8K in terms of pr9cessing, but a guy can dream.
I usually keep my tv until I see a review of a model that blows my mind, go see it in store and pull the plug if I really like it. Most of the time it’s about every 10/12 years. For reference I don’t shop high end, I’m in the 1k/1.5k range. Last tv was bought in 2021. So see y’all in a will ahah
I have a Samsung 75 inch q70 from 2018 Qled for my home theater setup. I'm looking to upgrade and considering OLED. Should I stick to the Samsung or what brand would you suggest?
I was rocking a SD Panasonic 42" plasma tv for 18 years, awesome TV, only upgraded to my new awesome Sony 55" oled A80j tv because my Panasonic decided to not turn back on one day, I'm loving my new TV, picture is stunning.
I am using a five year old Samsung q80r. I often wonder how much of an upgrade say a qn90d would be. The q80r still looks great with good brightness and blacks. I often look at the s90d and now that Panasonic is returning my interest in upgrading is increasing. G
I paid off my Sony Bravia A90J 65inch OLED this year after the last three which cost me three and a half grand, and it’s brilliant. That combined with my Panasonic DP-UB9000 disc player makes for a formidable combination. In two years time I will upgrade to a new Sony television. I bought three vastly expensive One Click box sets of 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY which came with a free Lunar Base Bluetooth Speaker each from an Italian distributor(Raro Film Studios)and I am looking forward to connect them to my existing set up, them lock and load and rock and roll watching my all time favourite movie and others and play them LOUD! 😂
My Samsung PN8000 plasma is going strong. Want to upgrade but ironically when I watch the videos on RUclips showing the picture quality of the new sets I go "hmm...my picture looks pretty good!" The 95L however is tempting
I think 8k demand will increase especially by the end of the decade, but for gaming I would want to achieve native 4k 120hz first, so I think 4k will be around for some time. In terms of when to replace a tv 5-6 years typically feels about right, though as always it does depend. I went from a 2018 55” LG C8 to a 77” LGG2 (2022). The difference was significant, not just in size but brightness and clarity. However, I paid about £1,500 for the C8 and about £4k for the G2 so big price difference. I hope to keep my G2 going for at least 6 years, and the thought of paying £4k again anytime soon is not pleasant, so I’m careful to avoid screen burn etc. I had two new screens under the extended warranty for the C8 and don’t want a repeat with the G2 (stuck pixels for one and a line down the screen for the other, no burnin).
8K content? Cable TV is still only broadcasting in 1080. And we seem to have to replace our TVs every 4 years or so. As a kid in the CRT TV days, we managed 10-15 years before replacing.
Man, I'm still rockin' a Pioneer Kuro Pro-150HD from 2008. Paid just over $5K for it then. I still get people telling me how great the picture is, AND ITS ONLY 1080P.
I am still rocking a LG B7 and don’t plan to upgrade. Mainly use it for ps5 soon the ps5 pro. The target being 4K 60 I don’t see why I should upgrade yet..
My 17+ year old 50” Pioneer Elite Plasma monitor has a better picture than many of LCD TVs I’ve seen. Granted it’s only 1080P, but so is many of the streaming services I’m using. Things like text are crisp and the blacks are black. Thinking about getting a new high end TV in the future. Something thinner, larger, and more energy efficient, and high end.
I still have my Panny ZT60 and like a fine wine I think it has gotten better over time! The PQ and black levels are still amazing. I do not use it for gaming, and given that I like a lot of older programming which is at best 720p I have no interest as yet in replacing it.
When I moved out and finally got my own place in 2015, I bought 1 of Sony's 1st 55" 4K TV's. No HDR At that time. This Year I upgraded to the 77" LG G3. Lovin It!! 😁
The burden of 8k is not worth the reward compared to 4k. Maybe in 5 years the technology will make 8k less taxing. A 90"+ 8k qd-oled TV for $5k sparks my interest
I keep my TVs until they go bad - LOL. My LG E7 65 (2017) is dying now; getting pixel bleeding where my yellows look green (due to red pixel issue). Looking to replace Tv in Feb. '25 (around Super Bowl time where TVs go on sale)
I have a soon to be 5 year old 4k 50 inch LG and though the picture isnt as good as new 4k tv's it's still good enough for me. I also have a soon to be 8 year old 48 inch Vizio 1080p and it still looks good. I have a PS5 with disc drive and no desire to get the PS5 Pro. I'll wait for the PS6. I also have a PS3 60GB from 2010 that I pretty much use to just play blue rays. Ive put DVD's in both my PS3 and my X box X. Upscaling DVD in the PS3 hooked to the 1080p tv doesnt look too bad. But put it in the X box hooked to the 4k eh not so much.
We aren't even going to get 8K film/tv content for YEARS and YEARS, let alone 8K gaming content.
They been shooting 8k+ content for years with RED cameras and other similar cameras.
Most newer phones can shoot in 8k.
8k gaming been around for years.
@@NextNate03 They film 8k only to have space for re-framing the shot in post and the. They still deliver in 4k. There is no native 8k content. I work in the industry and that's not a thing yet.
The "8k" shot on phones is low BitRate and looks like ass.
And 8k gaming only exists with multi thousand dollar computers with modded games. There's no native developer made 8k games shipping. ESPECIALLY not on consoles. Stop making shit up.
We need to get a breakthrough in storage first and high speed broadband/internet needs to come to more people at a affordable price.
Because 8K content takes up a lot of space. I mean, we don't even have real 4K in many instances. Netflix and other streaming services are heavily compressed. 4K movies are like 4-5 times lower bitrate than a 4K blu-ray. They need to get higher bitrates of their content first before they even think about getting real 8K content on their services.
8K games can come earlier if they invent new disc to store the all the data and they don't rush to be only digital. Not likely
All this back and forth... the question asked, "...end of this decade..."? So answer, yeah probably.
Still no. Decades only 6 years away. @@MrMice...
Over the years I've learned that the key to enjoy what I buy is to actually use it. If you spend time using things instead of watching review channels for entertainment, you will save yourself a lot of money and stress.
This comment should be pinned on all tech review channels indefinitely.
Chasing 8k is dumb as hell. They need to focus on getting 120fps+ with high settings on games in 1440p or 4k.
They probably said the same thing about 4k and 1080p.
They are. The PS5 Pro is about higher quality settings at 4K 60 and 120p. 8K is still a secondary potential feature.
@@greendusk93 Chasing 8k is truely not a good idea right now, 4k 60hz or even 120hz for ultra smoothness should be the focus, upscaling will sometimes have some artifacts so we should focus on something we can do.
@genxtechguy PS5 Pro cannot do native 4K 60fps native, it relies heavily on PSSR to upscale from native 1080p and 1440p to 4K and 8K.
What? You're a PC player aren't you? 😂
I still have my 15 year old Samsung 50” Full HD plasma TV and the colours are amazing. I will only replace it when it finally breaks. I don’t understand people’s need to constantly replace a perfectly good product just because something new comes along. Appreciate what you have!
It’s simple. FOMO
I’m still rockin a 2012 65”Panasonic plasma and occasionally want to upgrade but at this point I’m interested in how long I can keep this going
i was just about to come on here and basically write the same exact post! 2010 Samsung plasma 3D tv for me....hasn't shown any wear or tear yet, and it gets used a lot daily from family members!
I have an old ass "4k" Westinghouse TV that was sitting around in my office closet (it was going to be my WFH ticket monitoring monitor) and my wife and I redid our backyard this summer so I took an old rolling stand and put it out there and using that TV out there. If it gets ruined then so be it.
I have a 65 inch curved Samsung I got as an open box back in 2015 that iny bedroom, and I threw a Chromecast with Google TV on it and it works perfect for a bedroom tv
You take good care of your TV wow! I replace a tv when I see bright spots or damaged pixels. I get those when the TV is old anyways so buying new is fine with me.
I just bought the LG g3 today, going from a Phillips 37" from 2008😅
I'm still rockin' a 2007 Sony!
I’ve using a 2010 LG Plasma, it won’t die 😂
Rocking Sony's flagship FALD from 2011. It's still stunning!
I just got the same 83' such a great TV, the wall mount is next level good!
im sure youre amazed by OLED picture quality.
Still rocking a 2014 Vizio E65-C3 and it works perfectly. I’m glancing at new TV’s, but not really looking. Maybe in another year or two, but as long as this one continues to work great, I feel no pressure and have no FOMO.
How about we perfect 4k before placing any more effort into 8k… one step at a time.
But that won’t do for the companies that want to make more money.
They need bigger numbers to sell TVs to people who already have 4K.
They have to find ways to convince people they’re missing out on something they’re not really missing out on.
I agree to an extent but as a pc gamer I’ve been playing 4k for a hot min. My 3090 runs 4k fine and so does the 4080 super and 4090. Heck even the 4070ti super runs games in 4k and you can use FSR or DLSS as needed. Consoles will always use upscaling and they are damn good at it. There are 8k TVs that aren’t crazy expensive. People need to learn how to shop and buy day one on everything lol.
No. Games are suffering in 4k. I think developers are making it wrong. The fetiche now is 60fps. I would make every game 1440p that it is very good, closer to 4k than most people want to admit, put hdr that makes miracles and try to play it in 60fps.
120 is the new 60.
Well jokes on you almost every single modern game Target a resolution significantly below 4K and often below 1080p internally, most often at 60 but sometimes at 30. Always 30 if you lock it to 4K.
4k does have a different to 1440
@@gtifury310 your eyes can't even notice the difference between 60-120fps lol
@@julbiot9768 the hell they can't! 60 fps looks extremely choppy to me. It's like the difference between melted butter and Michael J Fox holding the camera
60fps 4k is far more desirable than 8k. Also, my ps5 box already has a 8k logo
I'm pretty sure Sony removed the 8K logo more recently. Oddly, The Touryst supposedly renders internally at 8K on PlayStation 5 but downscales to 4K because Sony hasn't enabled 8K output for PlayStation 5 via system update.
Only 60? I feel sorry for you guys.
60hz is so fuzzy
My PS5 and Series X boxes both stated 8k ready.
Who the hell is upgrading their tv after only 5 years? People keep complaining about the income inequality and how their wages haven't increased but will have the latest and greatest phones, cameras, laptops, consoles, tvs, and cars.
Not very many people are doing that, but if they were the only prices that have gone down in the last 30hrs have been consumer electronics.
I've had my U6H for two years now and love this tv.
Thanks! Very timely, Have the 5 year old 6 Series TCL 65, want to go to 75 TCL M8 or Hisense U8. But, I am confused by negative comments regarding the ADS Pro Panel on 75 Hisense. Was "Shower contemplating" if would get noticable improvement... TCL had zero problems so they I guess earned my brand loyalty..
I don't know a single console player who wants an 8k tv. People already complaining about price of ps5 pro, doubt they will shell out 8k tv money.
I got an 8k tv there's not alot of people who play on console I'm on the ps5
Even PS6 won't be powerful enough to do AAA games at 8K at 60fps so PS5 Pro certainly won't be, Gran Turismo has an 8K mode but that's upscaled and nowhere near 8K native res, i think 8K may take off when PS7 is out, it's only just about becoming a reality on PC when the 5090 is out, but even then 99% of people will prefer to play at 4K/120fps+ or 4K/60fps with path tracing. Hopefully by the time PS7 is out there's some reasonably priced 8K OLEDs.
Most people unless gaming in 1440p or 4k are using DLSS, FSR and frame generation now and it’s just fine. You can natively game at 1440p and 4k at 60-120 FPS no problem now depending on your hardware. The 4090 can already game native 8k in some titles and def with DLSS. People said the same thing about 1080p a long time ago. 4k is mastered and the 5090 is dropping in January. ( not that it will be cheap) Some people buy civics some people buy lambos. It’s all about the wallet.
Just came in to say the answer is no, when referring to an 8K demand.
I have a tube Admiral tv from the fifties and it's still kicking butts. It's black and white. I like the artistic side of the picture.
8:29 thanks so much for taking my question! Super interesting topic!
Keeping my A95K until it dies. Exceptional image quality.
Bought a QLED 8k tv as open box about four years ago. Greatest purchase ever. I don’t need an upgrade for another P years at least unless I want something bigger than 85”.
I have seen some crazy results with upscaling, I play with it a ton, recently my most successful method has been letting the device upscale 480p to 1080p and then let the tv upscale the 1080p to 4k. I only have theories on why this looks so “good” but try it, try it, try it.
As a calibrator, myself…..
Well done!!!
Great explanation of Display referred light. I’m sure it would be fun for viewers to hear more about Scene referred light and how films are mastered by CI Colorists.
Thanks for addressing my question...I am considering moving up from my 65" 2018 Vizio P65 Quantum, to either the 65" Hisense U8 or maybe the LG evo G4 ( If I can get a good black Friday deal).
A few months ago I upgraded my 65" LG C9, which I bought right after the CX came out, to a 77" G3 right after the G4 came out. I wanted a 77" last time but was I was far more budget constrained and this time around I was able to find a refurbished G3 for "only" $2,689. Still expensive, but waaaay cheaper than launch price. The biggest difference I noticed, aside from size, was brightness. The C9 was a great TV but it handled reflections terribly and needed a dark room to really pop. What really pushed me to upgrade was the anti-glare performance of the G3 and most of all the massive brightness gains you get from MLA.
I don't see huge 8K demand since graphics in gaming has reached good enough. Most gamers choose better frame rate over better graphics that why PS5 Pro was made for. Future demand for gaming is going to be 4K with higher frame.
I also have a 65X950G, but have a strong desire to go up a size class. I live in Canada so 77" OLED's are north of $4000, and I can get a 75" QM8 for under $2000 which is very appealing.
I have a 75" Samsung NU7100 (2018 model) but also live in Canada. Would love a new 77" OLED but the price is still prohibitive.
If you wanted to stay in the Sony family you can get an x90l for $1,500. Go look up Caleb’s review from a year ago. He gave it a very favorable review as did a couple of other well known reviewers. Fomo and HDTVtest are two.
As Caleb stated, the 65X950G is a solid TV, I doubt you'd get a noticeable improvement from going for a QM8. You'd be better off trying to find a good deal on an unused 75X95L on stores that still count with "old" stock, if the urges of upsizing are too strong, that is.
You are correct, again, Caleb. I have an 11 year-old Samsung 75" 3D TV which was Top of the Top in 2013, married to a Samsung BD-J6300 3D Wi-Fi 4K UHD Upscaling Smart Blu-ray ( wired ), which (like a PS) Upscales BIG TIME!! Even Netflix and especially VuDu/Fandango HDX/4K look WAY BRIGHTER and CLEARER and "upscaled" beyond the TV Apps and Roku 4K Ultra plugged directly into the TV! Thanks for all your Reviews Caleb.
TL;DR, immediate TV upgrades just for game consoles are not a great idea considering we don’t yet know what they’re truly capable of.
Tbh I kinda don’t get upgrading your TV in *preparation* for new gaming hardware. It’s one thing to upgrade your hardware and *then* your monitor or whatever to take advantage of it, or even upgrading your TV to be ready for a new higher-res format, but… like… gaming and media are two different beasts when it comes to specs.
Formats like DVD or Blu-Ray are generally set to a specific resolution across all media on it. All DVDs are 480p; All (non-4k) Blu-Rays are 1080p. Buying Blu-Rays wasn’t a good idea if you didn’t have an HDTV to go with it. 4k Blu-Rays weren’t going to be actually useful if you didn’t have a 4k display. The only exception to the rule is any format released on SDTVs (VHS, LaserDisc, DVD), since they were all still built around the analog SDTV systems up until DVD, which basically maxed those specs out. Also, any release that includes a disc for last-gen players would generally still be good to buy for future proofing, incase you were at least considering upgrading your TV.
Gaming hardware, at least consoles, on the other hand, is designed to work with all kinds of different resolutions, but more importantly, you normally buy the consoles for *new games.* These new games can often be enjoyed on the same TV as before, but if it’s on a console that can support a higher resolution, then you have a reason to upgrade your TV down the line. In 2005, while you could upgrade to an HDTV right away, you could still play (eg.) Perfect Dark Zero on your brand new Xbox 360 perfectly fine on your old CRT that you used to play (eg.) Perfect Dark on your N64 on.
With TV hardware mutating at an alarming cancer-like rate in the 2010s and on, it seems like a bad idea to just hop on a new HDMI version or whatever on the off chance your new console will be powerful enough to regularly support it. I thought it was silly whenever people were panicking over the whole HDMI 2.0 vs 2.1 thing leading up to the new consoles. Forget the present and the whole “optimization” disaster; even then, very few games supported both 4k and 120hz at the same time. It was only ever a problem because the systems can’t just switch between 4k60 and 1440p120 per game. Now… well… yeah… And here we are on this video and in the two months since, I heard the PS5 Pro can’t even output 8k, upscaled or not.
12 years on my Panasonic 65" Plasma. Still going strong, and fine for me. Riding this one till it conks out for good.
Caleb, I think your view on upgrading from a mid tier vs a high-end tv has some sense in it. Here's my example: I upgraded from a 55 inch 2017 Sony A1E OLED (which I bought in 2018) to a 65 inch A95L OLED in the beginning of this years and whilst I noticed some quite remarkable updates in picture quality I must say the difference wasn't mind-blowing in any means especially if we consider I am quite a tv nerd myself and also that it was a size upgrade as well.
I would argue that 4-5 years is the minimum time you should wait to upgrade a tv, especially if you are already owning a high-end one from previous generations. Upgrading one after 1-2 years is completely unnessecary, and I also think this is the case regarding almost every consumer electronics.
I keep my TVs for 10 years lol regardless of anything.
I will keep my TVs until they break. I have 2 CRT TVs that I won't throw away because they work. I'm willing to give one of them away and sell the other one but I refuse to trash them.
I also have a LG 42" LCD 1080p TV from 2010 that is still working in the bedroom. It was a higher end model when new and still has very good color but there is DSE and brightness is not ideal. My LR TV was upgraded to a Samsung 55" 4K LED TV from 2019. I kept having issues with connecting my PC and AVR to it. It also had very bad off angle picture and weak HDR. Everything about it worked as a TV, so I gave it to my younger daughter and bought a LG C1 65" OLED TV. I got that TV 2 years ago and love it. Hopefully it will last 10+ years like my other LG did. It has 10,000 hours of use and no degradation visible or signs of burn-in.
BTW, my mother in law had a 50" LG LED 1080p TV, in between my 42" LG and 55" Samsung 4k that was a bad TV, so not all LG TV's have been positive.
I have an LG 42inch TV from 2011. 42LW4500-TA.
Still going strong.
My 2007 50inch 720p samsung plasma finally died 2 weeks ago. I just replaced it with a 75inch Hisense mini led 4k. Obviously a huge difference in picture quality etc. But the thing that really amazed me was that the new tv cost exactly 50% of what i had paid for the 17 yesr old Samsung, and weighed half as much as well. A 50 inch plasma @ $2,200 and 109lbs vs the new 75inch Hisense @ $1,100 and 60lbs. Chasing technology is hard enough to keep up with and upgrading my cell phone, tablets and computers every few years, so i tend to get more longevity out of my tvs and sound systems 😊
My parents have a 15 year old Sony LCD TV. I just gave them an old ten year old Sony of mine and they think it looks great
5 year rule confirmed :P
Is the 15 yr old Sony LCD a high end Bravia ? If it’s Bravia n it’s mostly a SHARP Aquos (Aquos is high end ) with SONY logo .
Sony used to buy Samsung LCD as Bravia (now they buy LG OLED as Sony ) . Then 2008 Sony ditched Samsung n had Partnership with Sharp TV . Becusee Sharp was more advanced . Sony’s high performance TVs Bravia were Sharp tv with SONY OS /Logo :)
2010-2011-- 💯% Global LEDs were made by (Sharp Tv n Sharp Aquos - high end )
D same way that SONY’s 💯 OLED been made by LG for years .
2014 Hisense bought Sharp , 2018 Hisense bought Toshiba .
If u see Hisense U7N U8N(high end Google panel , not their cheap Roku ) in store u will be Blown away . 😊
@@Yoga_Tv_buying cool info.
I do remember seeing some nice aquos panels back in those years.
Are you referring to when Sony used V/W/X letter prefixes to the models?
There were flagship XBR model series that were excellent in the lcd tube lit days
@@Dan_d00d I don’t remember but might be - sony KDL models . So when Sharp announced “ We r first time mass selling LED “ at CES 2010 ….. it broke the Internet . All brands panic , went to Sharp to Mass order LED . Becusee no other brands had the technology or Machine /factory ready for LED.
their Low end -- LED models were made by Sharp , The High end Bravia were made by Sharp Aquos factories .
Since 2008 Sony Sharp partnership , when Sharp Announced the LED launch @2010, Sony already was on d Same Boat as Sharp, so they were able to get 1st Dip.
But Sharp kept the BEST LEDs in house . They r called -- Quatrum (Qua means 4 in Latin )
It has 🟥🟨🟦🟩 4 BASE color as blend . So they could produce 99% color human eyes can see . :):) I had 2 of those in my house 46” n 60”. They make all 1080P - auto looks 2k to 3k by its superior Hardware !!! U do NOT need “Upscaling “ guessing .
No joke , over 4 years ppl kept waking to my house WOW by it . N asking “Why is my Dad’s brand new $3000 SONY look so much worse than yr 4 yr old tv ?”
📺 at time I was not into TV I just thought it’s mistake
Thanks for following up on my question I really appreciate it. I will say that watching this channel and learning the ins and outs of TV technology really gives you perspective. Can you do a video closer to Black Friday that goes over the TV deals you think we should consider? I know Spring is a better time to purchase a TV but would appreciate your insight on the deals this year. Have a great day.
I bought an LG G series in 2017. How big of a difference is a 2024 G4?
Caleb, thanks for explaining the color science and going deeper into that. As a TV salesman, it really helps me to explain colors better to customers.
THE DEPTH OF RESPONSE = loving it! Great Ep Caleb. I think this is finally the time I may put my own Q out to you after things said in this one touched so closely onto the areas I often wonder.
I’ve still got a 1080p LED from 2011. Does the job fine and still looks decent.
I'm been running a LG B7 55" since early 2018, it still has the ability to amaze me with good quality Dolby Vision/HDR content so I don't think I need to upgrade yet from a quality point of view but I do wish I'd bought the bigger 65" screen at the time. (I was upgrading from a 37" Panasonic LED television so the 55" seemed huge!)
I love that episode and the questions. They were really relevant and interesting. I just wish that there were more questions answered. I think this one was a bit special because one of the questions did require a lot of time to explain so I understand.
I'm rockin the Sony XBR5 still Caleb great topics👍
Excellent! Thank You Caleb
Brilliant description of color and color perception. Thank you!
Love the fresh cut Caleb. Low fade looks great on you
Come on people I have a LG 2012 model 47SL4500-UD it’s 12 years old and it still work fine for video games and I bought it from a friend for $20 at the time because he was moving out to Bakersfield so basically he almost give it to me for free with these thousands of dollars tv’s now in day I just like watching people buying these tv but yeah I wish I could buy one can’t afford it. Now and days everything seems to be too expensive for me.. I’m happy for people that could afford it. I just want to say congrats to all of you that have new tv’s and say god blessed you all.
We are at least 4 generations of graphics cards away from playable 8k. The current rtx4090 can only get high teens fps at 4k with full path tracing without dlss. That's including the upcoming 50 series. So the rtx9090 might see playable 8k with path tracing. So for consoles, expect it to be even longer than that.
I like the topics discussed and how you packaged the related questions together. This let you go into detail with your responses. Caleb, you really enjoyed the color explanation and it was good to see that excitement from you!
😊except he LEFT OUT - critical part of eye color cone science ! 🧬
There 2X -- cones (color sensors in eyes )👀 for warm color than Cool 🆒 tone . Since the SONY LG WOLED r Severly blue tinted , n their LEDs r also more blue tinted than other brands . Their WOLED will look like Winter 🥶 color or thunder storm 🌩️ Moody blue by default vs Hisense /Samsung that r Real Natural rich color :)
Omission :) 😊
I’m just wondering why the built in 4k uhd player on the Xbox series x and Xbox one X is better than the one on the PS5?
I got my Sony A95L 65-inch back in spring this year, and I love it and with the PS5 pro out in two weeks I look forward to the AI upscale.
I'm still using my 2009 46" B8500 Samsung local dimming TV. The pictures still looks fine. I know prices have dropped as stores are looking to phase out models. But anytime I think about dropping close to $1000 on a new TV, something happens and I have to pay for something else. Plus with the holidays approaching, there's shopping for family and air travel. So once again, this luxury has to wait. I like the thin to zero bezel of today's panels since mine has a bezel of about 2-3 inches. But that's still not enough to compel me to buy as long as it keeps working.
I would pay to watch a "how to" step by step video of ur specific calibration process, seems very user friendly compared to the $60k worth of equipment required from other RUclipsr tutorials 🙏🏽
I have an off subject question I'm having a problem with PS5 hook up to a AV receiver strictly with apps like RUclips The center channel will not play the only way I get it to play is to put it on two channel and linear PCM
I’m still waiting for affordable 4k 150” OLED. Let’s get there before native 8K.
I love that Caleb mentioned that the current PS5 can do 8K content, it’s just not 8K games like the PS5 Pro.
I’m pretty sure the original PS5 still doesn’t actually support 8k output even though it’s on the box.
Ps5 Pro won't be able to run vast majority of games in 8K either. Only very, very few and very small games with low fisual fidelity will be able to run at 8K in any playable framerate
@@Maximus2261 it can but it requires Sony to push out an update to allow the PS5 to output 8K through HDMI 2.1 which right now Sony isn’t doing because there’s no need yet.
@@MikeAbili This is exactly what I meant.
Thank you for explaining all of this. I hope as 8K becomes mainstream that the prices of 4K prices will come down.
What happened to TVs lasting 10, 20 years or more before having to even think about replacing them?
I remember my Parents, Aunts & Uncles, and Grandparents having the same TVs what seems like my whole life growing up.
I just bought a TV 4 years ago and I already need to replace it due to burn in. It's an LG C1.
I am upgrading to the PS5 Pro.. I own a Sony Bravia A80J 65". Do you think that TV is good enough?
Yeah my Sony KDL-40EX400 from 2010 is still going strong at "only" 1080p, and it still looks fine. Good, actually.
The additional resolution at 4K, especially at the small sizes I'm considering, is not the draw. It's HDR. I want a TV that can make the colors pop more.
I'd really like more manufacturers (*cough* Hisense) to make mini-LED TVs at 50" and below. Some of us have space constraints, even in our living rooms.
If I did get a larger TV, I would want to use it as a monitor too from a long distance so I can work from it too and get rid of my desk. I work from home, and every inch of floor and wall space is at a premium. My desk is quite literally standing in the way of getting a bigger TV...but what if I could get rid of it?
Why haven't we figured out how to set up rooms so we can use big TVs to work from the couch? I do know another concern would be the webcam since I do a lot of video calls. Another possibility, if it worked reliably, would be wireless HDMi so I could use my work laptop from the couch while having the TV across the room as a secondary monitor.
In that sense, more resolution is better for more multitasking.
I want upgrade to lg c4 77 inch, but what to do with my Samsung 65 inch mu8000 what do people do with there old tvs . I do not have the room to move it to.
How would a Hisense Q8N compare to a 2019 LG C9? Viewing angles excluded
I live in Scotland and recently bought the Hisense U8N however in the setting the AI upscaling is greyed out and says currently unavailable? Is this something that's coming in an upgrade as I thought this was a standard for this type of TV?
Im still rocking my 2007 50" Panasonic plasma, still has an excellent picture.
I'm frightened to replace it 😂
I had a Sony x900h (LED) since 2020, and just upgraded to LG G3, and the difference is night and day!
If i have an 75 inch, do i need an actual z series to see an improvement?
Does PS5 pro finally have Dolby vision?
Personally, I would rather companies focus on lenticular 3D, like Looking Glass, than 8K. A 75 inch Looking Glass would be amazing. Yes, I realize that is orders beyond 8K in terms of pr9cessing, but a guy can dream.
I still have my 1080p from 2012. Ill wait until it breaks before I buy a new one.
My 11 year old Panasonic VT60 Plasma is still going strong 💪🏽
I usually keep my tv until I see a review of a model that blows my mind, go see it in store and pull the plug if I really like it. Most of the time it’s about every 10/12 years. For reference I don’t shop high end, I’m in the 1k/1.5k range. Last tv was bought in 2021. So see y’all in a will ahah
The best episode I ever watch from you, caleb 👍🏻
I have a Samsung 75 inch q70 from 2018 Qled for my home theater setup. I'm looking to upgrade and considering OLED. Should I stick to the Samsung or what brand would you suggest?
I was rocking a SD Panasonic 42" plasma tv for 18 years, awesome TV, only upgraded to my new awesome Sony 55" oled A80j tv because my Panasonic decided to not turn back on one day, I'm loving my new TV, picture is stunning.
I have had my Samsung mid range 4 K TV for 7 years. My previous TV was a high end CRT which I had for 14 years!
Should I consider upgrading my Sony XBR65X900E?
Does anyone know what the Playstation 5Pro' HDMI bandwidth is?
Could you make a direct comparison between 2,4,6,8 Years? What really changed for real life usage.
Is Panasonic's hexachrome tech a gimmick?
I am using a five year old Samsung q80r. I often wonder how much of an upgrade say a qn90d would be. The q80r still looks great with good brightness and blacks. I often look at the s90d and now that Panasonic is returning my interest in upgrading is increasing.
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I paid off my Sony Bravia A90J 65inch OLED this year after the last three which cost me three and a half grand, and it’s brilliant. That combined with my Panasonic DP-UB9000 disc player makes for a formidable combination. In two years time I will upgrade to a new Sony television.
I bought three vastly expensive One Click box sets of 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY which came with a free Lunar Base Bluetooth Speaker each from an Italian distributor(Raro Film Studios)and I am looking forward to connect them to my existing set up, them lock and load and rock and roll watching my all time favourite movie and others and play them LOUD! 😂
My Samsung PN8000 plasma is going strong. Want to upgrade but ironically when I watch the videos on RUclips showing the picture quality of the new sets I go "hmm...my picture looks pretty good!" The 95L however is tempting
I think 8k demand will increase especially by the end of the decade, but for gaming I would want to achieve native 4k 120hz first, so I think 4k will be around for some time. In terms of when to replace a tv 5-6 years typically feels about right, though as always it does depend. I went from a 2018 55” LG C8 to a 77” LGG2 (2022). The difference was significant, not just in size but brightness and clarity. However, I paid about £1,500 for the C8 and about £4k for the G2 so big price difference. I hope to keep my G2 going for at least 6 years, and the thought of paying £4k again anytime soon is not pleasant, so I’m careful to avoid screen burn etc. I had two new screens under the extended warranty for the C8 and don’t want a repeat with the G2 (stuck pixels for one and a line down the screen for the other, no burnin).
I bought Sony a80j oled and still surprised on how beautiful everything looks
I find the idea of upgrading my Sony A1 from 2017 but it is a cracking TV. Think I may wait for another couple of years. Maybe!
8K content? Cable TV is still only broadcasting in 1080. And we seem to have to replace our TVs every 4 years or so. As a kid in the CRT TV days, we managed 10-15 years before replacing.
Man, I'm still rockin' a Pioneer Kuro Pro-150HD from 2008. Paid just over $5K for it then. I still get people telling me how great the picture is, AND ITS ONLY 1080P.
I'd be happy if the LG Oled B or C series included 3D.
I am still rocking a LG B7 and don’t plan to upgrade. Mainly use it for ps5 soon the ps5 pro. The target being 4K 60 I don’t see why I should upgrade yet..
Haha me too. I move this tv to my bedroom and bought the G4 this year for the living room.
120 fps
@@mephisto1025 B7 has 120 fps at 1080p. Enough if I want to play a competitive game. Sweet spot is 4K 60
@@joKerchy I meant 4k 120 hz .
@@mephisto1025 not many games can run at 4K and 120. Maybe with the PS6 but now most run at 1080p or 1440p max
Color theory. Love it! Thanks for the vid
My 17+ year old 50” Pioneer Elite Plasma monitor has a better picture than many of LCD TVs I’ve seen. Granted it’s only 1080P, but so is many of the streaming services I’m using. Things like text are crisp and the blacks are black. Thinking about getting a new high end TV in the future. Something thinner, larger, and more energy efficient, and high end.
very informative episode! its always great when entertainment also offers scientific knowledge
Please answer more questions on your You Asked videos.
I still have my Panny ZT60 and like a fine wine I think it has gotten better over time! The PQ and black levels are still amazing. I do not use it for gaming, and given that I like a lot of older programming which is at best 720p I have no interest as yet in replacing it.
When I moved out and finally got my own place in 2015, I bought 1 of Sony's 1st 55" 4K TV's. No HDR At that time. This Year I upgraded to the 77" LG G3. Lovin It!! 😁
The burden of 8k is not worth the reward compared to 4k. Maybe in 5 years the technology will make 8k less taxing. A 90"+ 8k qd-oled TV for $5k sparks my interest
I have a sony 2018 4k 60Hz 65 inch tv.
Doesnt have hdmi 2.1 but shoukd still be getting 4k 60fps
I keep my TVs until they go bad - LOL. My LG E7 65 (2017) is dying now; getting pixel bleeding where my yellows look green (due to red pixel issue).
Looking to replace Tv in Feb. '25 (around Super Bowl time where TVs go on sale)
My 2013 Samsung Plasma 1080p looks so good still. I am going to compare it to the Oled G4 i just ordered
I have many 3D blurays. I am stuck holding on to my LG 3D OLED TV.
I might be wrong but I think 8k would take up way more storage space. Consoles need to raise their storage to at least 3tb.
I have a soon to be 5 year old 4k 50 inch LG and though the picture isnt as good as new 4k tv's it's still good enough for me. I also have a soon to be 8 year old 48 inch Vizio 1080p and it still looks good. I have a PS5 with disc drive and no desire to get the PS5 Pro. I'll wait for the PS6. I also have a PS3 60GB from 2010 that I pretty much use to just play blue rays.
Ive put DVD's in both my PS3 and my X box X. Upscaling DVD in the PS3 hooked to the 1080p tv doesnt look too bad. But put it in the X box hooked to the 4k eh not so much.