I've spent my entire adult life directly experiencing Military Keynesianism. 20 years in uniform and subsequent time as a retiree. I started collecting my pension the day I retired, at age 38. One true thing the recruiter told the 17 y/o me was, '3 hots and a cot, guaranteed'. That among many other things like, free medical and dental; plus, the kind of training that the private sector has young people going into debt for, we got, not only for free, but they paid us while we trained. The obvious downside, aside, it's been a good life. In contrast when I look at what this country puts civilian workers thru - particularly BIPOC, 'blue collar', and our young - it tightens my jaw. Especially given how wealthy this nation is, and how productive those workers are. It really wasn't until I'd heard of, and listened to Noam Chomsky, that I began to wonder why my experience was not the baseline (sans militarism) for the entire population.
I just got married this year, my folks are getting older and sicker, and I just started school again in my late-mid 20s (thinking grad school later). I’ve been talking to recruiters because it seems to be the only way out of permanent debt. I can’t stand the thought of serving the military or corporate sector but, my current pace of life (usually working 2-3 blue collar jobs) just can’t keep up with expenses anymore - especially at a time I’m starting to fill in family needs.
Wonderful stuff. We need to find an alternative word to ELITES as it implies justification of leadership when parasitical, insecure, detructive behaviour is what most characterizes 'elites' currently.
The recruitment of poor people from college to the armed forces also seems to me a brilliant move to mostly get poor young people to support the militarism of the elites.
Did people forget that counter culture through the 60s 70s 80s 90s 00s all remined us frequently through music, film, comedy not to trust the govt or the media. They were always right. We cant. But now in 2023 people are fighting for censorship, defending big govt, and the military industrial complex like they all of a sudden have our best interest. The right understands this. Just because your "team" is winning by promoting such craziness, take a step back and realize everyone from Eisenhower, Kennedy, MLKjr, John Lennon, George Carlin etc all said to question and debate everything.
"MIlitary Keynesianism" is a libelous expression. J.M. Keynes, in his "General Theory of Employment, ..." made clear that the federal government, as the employer of last resort, must employ for productive purposes. Of all sorts of economic activities employing people, the military is the least productive. It has the least "multiplier effect" for the dollars spent. Prof Keynes would not have sanctioned military spending as a rational means of restoring a stagnant economic. Critics of Keynes have not read him, or if they have, do not understand him and probably don't want to understand him and even more probably do not have the intelligence to understand him.
Would you rather she give them formal titles? I think "you guys" puts them firmly where they are, among other humans. It's pretty bourgeois to take that as a bad introduction.
150 years of Blah bla bla and more Socialist Utopia more bla bla with NO SOLUTION ALTERNATIVES! Show me just ONE example of your wonderful Utopia working anywhere in this world! I can complain about my wife imperfections but the alternatives are extremely costly! 😂
I've spent my entire adult life directly experiencing Military Keynesianism. 20 years in uniform and subsequent time as a retiree. I started collecting my pension the day I retired, at age 38.
One true thing the recruiter told the 17 y/o me was, '3 hots and a cot, guaranteed'.
That among many other things like, free medical and dental; plus, the kind of training that the private sector has young people going into debt for, we got, not only for free, but they paid us while we trained.
The obvious downside, aside, it's been a good life. In contrast when I look at what this country puts civilian workers thru - particularly BIPOC, 'blue collar', and our young - it tightens my jaw. Especially given how wealthy this nation is, and how productive those workers are.
It really wasn't until I'd heard of, and listened to Noam Chomsky, that I began to wonder why my experience was not the baseline (sans militarism) for the entire population.
I just got married this year, my folks are getting older and sicker, and I just started school again in my late-mid 20s (thinking grad school later). I’ve been talking to recruiters because it seems to be the only way out of permanent debt. I can’t stand the thought of serving the military or corporate sector but, my current pace of life (usually working 2-3 blue collar jobs) just can’t keep up with expenses anymore - especially at a time I’m starting to fill in family needs.
The idea that a "public university" can plunge you into debt is absurd.
Thanks for having Noam and Vijay on they’re great together!
Wonderful stuff. We need to find an alternative word to ELITES as it implies justification of leadership when parasitical, insecure, detructive behaviour is what most characterizes 'elites' currently.
How does Craven Numbskulls sound?😇
They used to be called robber-barons.
The elites are precisely the privilege Left!
Great nuanced discussion
Wish every classroom covered this as economics cloaked in arcane language to obfuscate the obvious Well done Jacobins…
The recruitment of poor people from college to the armed forces also seems to me a brilliant move to mostly get poor young people to support the militarism of the elites.
Thanks for making smaller easily digestible videos! I love Jacobin but I think much of their media content is often long-winded. This was perfect.
Thank you
Great points! And fascists dont really make the trains run on time. Cuz if theyre late, what are you gonna do about it?
Very bright young woman. Great future
Did people forget that counter culture through the 60s 70s 80s 90s 00s all remined us frequently through music, film, comedy not to trust the govt or the media. They were always right. We cant. But now in 2023 people are fighting for censorship, defending big govt, and the military industrial complex like they all of a sudden have our best interest. The right understands this. Just because your "team" is winning by promoting such craziness, take a step back and realize everyone from Eisenhower, Kennedy, MLKjr, John Lennon, George Carlin etc all said to question and debate everything.
👍💐
He turnrd into The Giver
Man, Ron Paul gets no credit for talking about this 🤦♂️
Host ask questions and stop talking about you. I turned in to hear from the guests.
VIJAY the old world is dead / welcome to the new world, it requires imagination 🤗
more complot pay
I am waiting to hear from either guest. It’s almost 2 minutes in…
standard poor host. i'd be "this is vj preshad, and noam chomsky, who has some comments on public schools."
And you just couldn't wait those 2 whole minutes without complaining and showing everyone how annoyed you are.
@@Disconnectmyself it is just an observation. I did not say anything about my emotional state. You may be manifesting some projection.
@@mage851 Well in that case I retract the last part about you being annoyed.
@@mage851 Actually, I retract it all. Sorry, my bad.
"MIlitary Keynesianism" is a libelous expression. J.M. Keynes, in his "General Theory of Employment, ..." made clear that the federal government, as the employer of last resort, must employ for productive purposes. Of all sorts of economic activities employing people, the military is the least productive. It has the least "multiplier effect" for the dollars spent. Prof Keynes would not have sanctioned military spending as a rational means of restoring a stagnant economic. Critics of Keynes have not read him, or if they have, do not understand him and probably don't want to understand him and even more probably do not have the intelligence to understand him.
Appalling introduction……. “you guys” ?
Calm down karen
Would you rather she give them formal titles? I think "you guys" puts them firmly where they are, among other humans. It's pretty bourgeois to take that as a bad introduction.
Military Keynesian ? It’s called having enemies with nuclear bombs! Dah!
So basically you are mentioning the great ideas and benefits of the American system to the world!
150 years of Blah bla bla and more Socialist Utopia more bla bla with NO SOLUTION ALTERNATIVES! Show me just ONE example of your wonderful Utopia working anywhere in this world! I can complain about my wife imperfections but the alternatives are extremely costly! 😂
Show me one example of a sustained and successful capitalist society that collected zero public monies and possessed zero public goods. I'll wait.
It's important to understand the origins of the problem.
Did you even listen? Where’s your capitalist utopia?
you uh, happen to not hear of hugo chavez?
@@drakekoefoed1642 LBJ, Nixon, Reagan... need I remind you of other vicious "capitalist" war gods?