This must be the darkest opening credits I’ve ever seen in the MCU. Children being separated to be brainwashed to be killers. Even the song just gives you instant chills down the back of your spine!
@@nikolaspapanagnou2723 The Villain was also seen with President Carter, President Clinton, Boris Yeltson, and Condoleeza Rice among others. Demonstrating that the Widows were used by both Super Powers.
@@kermitdasewersidefroggy74 um i understand what your saying but the tone that you said it in could be taken the wrong way. but also her experience in the red room etc.. if it was really dived in depth it could get a 2 idk about a 3 but a 2 defo
@@kermitdasewersidefroggy74 she is a big enough character and Feige wanted a movie for her after Thor, but he kept getting declined by Perlmutter. He almost wanted out of the DCEU because of him, but now he’s fired and Feige has control over everything now. That’s why Black Panther and Captain Marvel finally came out, way too late tho
The way they showed real life politicians sent chills down my spine. While the movie itself could’ve been better, this opening sequence is honestly the best one in the MCU.
This is probably the darkest scene in any mcu and it terrifying that girls all over the world experience shit like this because of human trafficking. I actually teared up watching this the first time
@@its_jsk of course men experience it too. But it’s important to note that the majority of the victims are female. I’m pretty sure it’s like 90% of trafficked victims are minors that are female
i’m so glad they didn’t sugar coat this. i think the red room is one of marvels darkests things. if you rlly think about it, it’s human trafficking. i even love how in the movie the line “recycling what the world has too much of, girls” was used. it rlly just shows the reality that sometimes women are targeted just to be used and treated like they’re nothing
It was sex trafficking. they sexually abused the girls on a weekly basis in the red room. they stole them from their families and killed them if they weren’t strong enough. It was straight up evil but also straight up human trafficking.
@@Nova-fh2et because of how dark and realistic it is, compared to all the goofy stuff Marvel has done such as Ant Man, Spider-man Homecoming, Guardians of the Galaxy and Thor Ragnarok.
This was scene was probably the best from the whole movie. This intro just take my breath away how amazing it looked. It didn't felt like I was watching a marvel movie it felt like I was watching a movie about cold war. I absolutely loved this. And it absolutely fit the theme of the movie.They should definetly do more of these intros. Music, Action, enviroment and those details were incredibly in this movie.
Winters soldier have this atmosphere and vibe , mcu just pussy or disney just can't go 18plus which is sad , hopefully they can go like invincible or zack Snyder Justice League
2:09 if you didn’t notice one of the girls was pulled back from the rest. This implies that the villain sent her to be killed since she “wasn’t good enough” this scene has many good scenes and is something I wouldn’t expect from Marvel. I loved this movie even though some didn’t. Adding on to this, yeah Thanos, Dormammu, Hela, etc are scary, but Draekov is scarier. His political power and being so high up is what makes him the scariest. Like he said, he can start and end wars with a snap of his fingers. That’s what makes him so scary. The realism of it. The fact that he could be real. That he “is” real.
Bro I noticed her looking sideways but didn't realise he pulled her from the queue. You've got an incredible eye, and this sort of detail I what I live for.
@@Synthesyn342 Yeah I got a few subtle things just the line up thing was crazy, felt like the villain was more intimidating in this scene than the whole movie for stuff like that, but that's my opinion of it. Still a good villain with a good background.
May sound like a backhanded compliment, but for me this was the best part of the movie. Such an incredible piece of work and the editors should really be proud.
It truly is. Even though it's a superhero film, it focuses on a real disturbing real world issue and the cover of smells like teen spirit is very haunting and honestly made me forget it was a Marvel movie for a bit. I don't know how best to describe it because I still enjoyed the film, but I wish the film was more like the opening and downplayed the superhero aspect and maybe told a more grounded and mature story. Not necessary a hard R movie but went with more serious and somber tone. Reminds me of a Punisher MAX story arc called The Slavers in which Frank Castle goes against human traffickers and the overall story feels very different from a usual Punisher tale of him gunning down bad guys.
I think the scariest thing about this guy, what arguably makes him one of the scariest Villains for me, is just how realistic he is. Stealing desperate little girls off the street for nefarious purposes? Not that wild a concept.
@@XVNRX I definetly feel like this movie wouldve benefitted in its second half with a less superhero feel The plot is so promising but the villain doesnt deliver for some reason
After watching this opening, I finally see that Natasha has the most tragic childhood compared to the other Avengers. I’m happy that she still knows how smile.
A lot of people want to know more about what happened in the opening credits, but red room is supposed to secret. It’s like the directors and producers telling us ‘we’re not going to show what happened in the red room, because no one is supposed to know what happens in the red room’. The whole reason this film did so well is because like in reality, half the time we don’t know the human trafficking is happening. It’s relatable.
Exactly, the movie was a bit forgetable although quite good, but this is the best Marvel intro hands down. I totally didnt expect and was like wtf the whole time.
I just wished they added something in the credits like a website or organization people could go look at for more information. I think that would have been really neat
@@Undidiridium_ That would’ve been great. Just like how Zack Snyder put the su.icide prevention ad in the New Justice league movie because he lost his daughter to sui.cide.
This movie was great, but I'm disappointed that they didn't focus on this stuff more. This part was dark, realistic, and impactful and they should make a movie soley focusing on this part of her life before she escaped.
LITERALLY. I would have loved if like half or at least like 30 minutes was about what happens during this intro and then the rest could’ve been when they were grown up. I do hope they focus more on the red room tho. I remember being so interested in it when hearing about it in Agent Carter.
I love how this didn't feel like a traditional marvel opening, it's ominous and very unerving, and the use of "Smells like team spirit" works really well.
This opening scene is better than the rest of the movie. Shows parallel to the dark underside of human trafficking and could explore that more, but goes back to the basic formula.
It really is a shame the rest of the movie didn't live up to this scene. The whole plot felt pretty clunky and downright stupid. Yelena made it tolerable though.
@@jimmym9341 it was great but they really should've released it earlier. All the performances were great and I hope we get another shot at Taskmaster. This one was just not it. Great movie though
Having been a victim of human trafficking as a child, this scene brings back so many memories that I had to leave the theater from the breakdown I had.
I can’t believe you went through it. I feel sorry for you. I had a breakdown over the Holocaust back in 2018 and smashed everything in my house. I’ll not forget about my 2018 past and mum’s friend Michelle told me I have emotional and anxiety issues and I knew why I went out of control
It is horrible because once I overthink it I can see it and that’s why I can’t sleep at night anymore because I’m too scared to see the same thing again. Even last Sunday I’ll not forget about how our beloved Lord Mountbatten died and I’m still crying over this one week on. I was also shaking so much throughout the documentary. Now I’m getting dreams about saving Mountbatten just seconds before he died and he fell in love with me in the end. Can’t wait for the dreams where prince Philip finds out
Dreykov is probably the most purely evil character in the entire MCU. A truly disgusting monster played brilliantly by Ray Winstone. He actually scared me in these opening credits. Wish he had more to do for the rest of the movie.
Yeah with most action movie villains, someone just tells you that they’re bad and that’s that. In this movie you see exactly what he did and is responsible for. By the end of this intro I was fully convinced that he was a monster.
Absolutely. His ability to take away free will completely and his specifically targeting young girls is just the epitome of evil. Coming out of the movie the one thing I wished they did differently was somehow give more emphasis to both taskmaster and dreykov because there is so much potential with each of them that just couldn’t be explored with the time constraint. After the movie reaches the red room i didn’t get the same sense of power and evil from him but that might just be me.
“I’m worst at what I do best, and for this gift I feel blessed…” WOW that line hits different in this context. Imagine being raised and trained to be a ruthless assassin, but never being able to shake that feeling of responsibility for all the people you murdered, even though it’s the thing you’re best at. YIKES
I think in this context, it's a bit different. By being good enough to remain in the red room, but not so good that you're the cream of the crop means you won't get sent for the most dangerous missions. Therefore feeling blessed.
The allusions to real life human trafficking really sold how dark and somber this opening was. Really gives an idea of the horrors Natasha and Yelena underwent.
@@himeshoney I had a breakdown during this scene because it reminded me of Auschwitz for some reason and this actually happened there but way more brutal than that. I was recovering from the night before seeing Black Widow from my breakdown over Prince Philip being gone and that grief totally ruined me
This is the most horrific, heartbreaking, and depressing opening scene I’ve ever seen but it truly sets the mood of the entire film and shows the dark side of the world. Wars, human trafficking, human experiments, and child exploitation do exist and it’s something we tend to want to ignore but this scene forces us to watch it and acknowledge it.
Bro it does not reflect the movie whatsoever, although I feel like if they really emphasized that part of natasha’s life and she coped would have made for a much better movie
@@jazazo8392 I agree I want more Nat and Yelena early life backstory in the red room, the start of the film was so strong then act 3 felt like a typical marvel film I really want more of these two, they had such great chemistry.
The sad part is I though that Black Widow wasnt gonna be that typical Marvel jokes movie because of the intro I thought it was gonna be dark but instead its just a typical Marvel movie with the awesome action scenes and the overusing of jokes
This villain was, for me, one of the most terrifying ones. He's basically a child trafficker and abuser on steroids. This scene just breaks my heart for how realistic it gets to be
He reminds me of Beriya, stalins head of his secret police Who was known, in part, on top of being the one to order most of the executions and genocide of the soviet union, for…molesting young girls…. He was executed in the weeks following stalins death When his house was years later turned into an embassy, they found several skeletons of young girls buried around the property Just like drekhov he was a spymaster, manipulator, human trafficker, and molester
@@sebastiancarrillo7083 it wasn't your usual MCU film, it was awful. But I do agree this could have been the best film in the MCU if it had this tone the whole way through. But then people would be disappointed that it wasn't R-rated. Which was actually considered, apparently, believe it or not.
@@daffaagung i loved this film and i agree act 1 and 2 felt so gritty then act 3 started to feel like that classic marvel film. I wish they stuck with that darker tone.
@@charleyc2501 act 3 was good too until they started free falling and nobody got hurt. Generally speaking the movie was amazing until the last 20 minutes which is where it went downhill. It was still good, but a bit too Marvel-ish even for a Marvel movie. Definitely doesn’t deserve all the hate it’s getting though
@@doge8825 to be fair I haven't really seen much hate ? I know people are mad about taskmaster that doesn't really bother me the strength in that film was that messed up family that kind of fell back together and the chemistry between Florence and Scarlett was my favourite. I just wanted more red room backstory with Natasha and Yelena.
The first time I watched this scene I started crying, it was so sobering. Like no super soldiers, no thunder gods, nothing so fantastical that you’re like “this could never happen in real life”. There are so many kids in the world who don’t have anyone to protect them, just like in this scene.
@@peachsoylatte Don’t feel like you have to explain your emotions. This scene was extremely sad and impactful as children are trafficked all the time and it is a very real thing. It’s only normal to feel sadness or anger when seeing it.
Loved the movie, but keeping the dark tone would’ve made it so much better. This scene made me cry because of the reality of it. Sometimes dark is better than comedy. Like when Yelena revealed their forced sterilization, Marvel laughed it off but if they would’ve gotten into it, i think it would’ve elevated the movie.
Just a friendly reminder this takes place in the same universe as the TVA, magic, dimensional beings of darkness, Norse gods, and the jump scene from GotG 2. Seeing something this depressingly and scarily realistic amongst the craziness of the MCU is somehow the thing that stands out the most
We get many glimpses of this in the mcu despite it having all these powerful beings. Vulnerability is what separates someone who is nearly immortal and human. But this really hit home because it describes our world and the basic understanding of human trafficking and how it runs in everything around the world we just don't see it.
@@Nova-fh2et bruh everyone knows what gotg is. Do you piss on people for spelling u instead of you😂 welcome to the internet you will see this a billion more times
I just walked out of the cinema and I’m already youtubing the opening again. An incredible way to set the mood for the whole movie that’s a tribute to a fallen avenger. It’s like now that she’s gone, we hear her story. Makes her passing all the more heart-breaking.
Damnit this is perfect for Black Widow. Why wasn't the whole film like this? The tone of this intro is exactly what the film should have conveyed, similar to Captain America: the Winter Soldier.
@@fiveh3340 It's not just that - the usual Marvel house team was put in charge of the entire third act. Everyone else didn't get any creative input, so we got a lot of cg cartoon nonsense instead of actual emotional catharsis.
@@chef2042 And Wandavision tapped into similar themes of grief and healing and mental health. So did No Way Home. But Hawkeye's ending was as shallow as Black Widow's. The MCU can be very good when talented people are trusted and given freedom to explore their stories. Unfortunately, you can tell when they're trying too hard to keep things light.
They once again had the opportunity to put Nat and Bucky’s backstory together in the Red Room (it’s said that it had connections with Hydra/the Winter Soldier program) but no :___
Or a Disney + series about Red Room during the Cold War with the Red Guardian Melina or an other series about Yelena with the Red Room when she is under the control of Dreykov with assassinations
It’s horrific and terrifying that this is realistic. He is a very real villain, stealing little girls off the street for “a better life”. It’s just heartbreaking to know that stuff like this happens in real life.
@@tasinal-hassan8268 Didn't Dreykov get Nat's mom killed because she kept searching for Nat? Also I think some poor parents were fooled into giving up their kids.
@@captaindeadpool7174 Yeah that was after she was not being returned once Dreykov gave Natasha away to her surrogate parents. Dreykov didn't want to kill her at first, but she was persistently looking for the Red Room. That's why she was removed. But it's true that Natasha was given away by her own mother. She was promised that her daughter would maximize her human genetic potential. It was usually children from impoverished families who were given away like that.
if you stop watching black widow after the opening credits, it's the best movie in the whole franchise. the more you watch from there, the worse it gets.
while not necessarily the most evil, dreykov is the most terrifying mcu villain. the other ones are bad, sure, but outside of a few from phase one there’s a campiness to them that makes you remember they’re super villains, that it’s not real. people like dreykov exist in real life, and that chills me to the core.
I think he is people say thanos but drekov does what he does for power and doesn't care who gets hurt thanos does what he does because he thinks it will help
Nah, a lot of “campy” MCU villains are somewhat realistic in the way business heads can become extremely greedy and psychotic with their desires. Dreykov is disturbing in this scene alone, every other scene with him I almost wanted to laugh at how much of an old-school Bond villain this guy is. The movie also seems to handwave away the question of how much fucking money he needs for his whole system. Also he’s apparently had an airship that’s been in the sky since like, the first Avengers movie and has never landed or been noticed by anyone.
This opening scene makes me want a red room only room movie about her trying to escape as a kid with the right kid actor that can steal the show it would be so cool or even just her as a adult trying to escape and flash backs to her life in the red room
Wow.. just wow.. This scene is probably one of the best in the MCU. It really brings awareness to the problems of Human Trafficking that we pretend to ignore. The vocals combined with the acting just creates an amazing story.
All this time I wanted a detailed BW prequel all about the Red Room but I literally couldn’t handle a three-minute long snippet that felt like a horror movie. Tears.
OMG, this film was amazing! The scene with the old cartoons and the girls just starring at the computers was haunting. They were just brainwashed. Poor girls. :(
@@icyk7229 This movie was incredible, realistic, and heart wrenching. Why didn't you like it? Spider man is an unrealistic concept anyways, but I still love it.
@@Shadow-qh5cg yes the theme is real and the concept of the villan is real but the third act made everything feel very unrealistic including making the villan one unrealistic towards the end.
I really think this is a metaphor of all the abuse girls are exposed to, human trafficking, wealthy men controlling all of this. Abuse in every place, gymnastics, dance... I was really moved by this scene
This is by far, the best opening credit scene in marvel, or even credit scene. The song, the cinematography. It really shows the pain she went through and you think this could never happen in real life, but it does just not in this way. Kids get stolen every day, and they say it will be their new home but it will never be a home to them. The movie was dark, but I don't think it could've been portrayed any other way. Marvel did a wonderful job showing black widow in a view we haven't seen before. This movie is a masterpiece and will forever hold a very special place in my heart. Cheers to the one and only Natasha Romanoff.
Though the rest of the movie was great, this was definitely the most impactful of the entire film. It just shows how depressing and how terrible the Widow program was. I would actually like to see an entire movie dedicated to the Red Room and BW's past, but it doesn't seem likely.
It'd be cool to have it as a series, where they could explore the mechanisms of the Red Room. I think it would also help develop Natasha, Yelena and the rest of the widows - also Taskmaster. Disney+ series's have become really popular, and with such a recognizable character I think it could be a good idea.
this was the darkest thing i’ve seen in the mcu. the first time i watched it i was literally at loss for words. this extremely traumatising thing was showcased amazingly. the song choice, the editing, the young actresses. i could feel their fear and sadness inside of me. it literally made me feel things i just haven’t felt during any other mcu movie. i literally feel the shivers to this day.
@@joshualapura They referenced it constantly. Kids dress up like Cap, they mention Iron-Man and Thor, Karen's office has prior events posted all over the walls, Bloody Mary was there when Sokovia fell in AOU... It's in the MCU whether people want to admit it or not.
This may be one of the top opening credits scenes I've EVER watched. It's right up there with Terminator 2, which gave me goosebumps and chills in the theater and Watchmen.
Why people hate this movie? It's not the best MCU movie but it's not bad. And the intro excels the intros of every other MCU movies. That intro is some academy awards level stuff.
The movie was far from excellent. It had one of the best openings I’ve ever seen and then fucked it up with the action. The plot was thin and the premise was spoon-fed in the first 15 minutes when Yelena had the vial used on her. It all happened way too fast, in order to create a non-stop action scene rather than a movie. The villain was bad. Taskmaster is “big boring killer robot” again and the “big reveal” felt shallow. Draykov’s death was laughable and cheesy. Honestly once the Widows stormed his office and attacked Natasha to set up the grenade toss, I was just about done with the movie. It was constant violence and little to no story. The movie overall was fine, but it doesn’t deliver on the incredible beginning and is more of a side story than an origin story.
It’s good but would’ve been better if it was made after civil war, I appreciate her character more now but this movie would’ve fitted in better if they didn’t kill her off.
This really highlights themes of human trafficking. So heartbreaking and felt their pain, coming from someone who isn't a big Marvel fan. Such a powerful opening
This scene gave me such goosebumps when I first saw it in cinema. It's so incredibly good and yet heartbreaking, I love it but the pain is really damn deep as well
In my opinion, it was well worth buying a ticket just to see the Red Room opening montage scene alone, on the big screen for the first time. The rest of the movie was also pretty good, but this scene was pure cinematic masterpiece. My brain replays the song continuously on repeat and this scene has been living in my head rent-free lately.
While emotional overall, what gave me the teary sensation was the realization that Natasha knows this is Yelenas first time in the red room and her whole world is about to be turned upside down, so she desperately wants yelena to hold onto the picture of when they were younger and still a family
Out of topic but this gives ‘DuckTales’ a darker meaning. In Ducktales (1987-1990), Donald drops off Huey, Dewey, & Louie to his uncle, Scrooge McDuck. With Scrooge’s supervision, he trains the kids to be adventurers like him. In this case, Nat & Yelena were the “Huey, Dewey, & Louie” to Alexei & Melina’s “Donald Duck”, being forced to be taken by Dreykov (a darker mix between Scrooge & Glomgold) who trains the girls to be assassins.
Im a huge marvel fan. But this is by far my favorite intro scene because it’s so perfect for the movie and it provokes so much thought. This villain is so creepy not only because of how brilliant the performance is but also how realistic he is. With people like Jeffrey Epstein in this world and all the underground shit. Also you can’t see ice giants or mad scientists everywhere but I encourage you to look up sex offenders near you. It sadly is such a big thing in the world we live in and many of us will never know the reality of a helpless girl in danger which happens every hour of every day, everywhere in the world. Overall the scenes, music, theme and genre of this intro are very powerful.
I wish the movie was made as a psychological thriller. It set up as one but then turned into just a regular superhero movie. With Natasha on the run, her dark past, brainwashing, the Red Room, her traumatic life experiences... it was all a perfect mixture to create a really good psychological action thriller. A major missed opportunity. I wonder if Cate Shortland had planned on it but faced too much studio interference, because this opening scene is such a huge tonal contrast to everything else that comes after.
@@jeaniebeanie6 yes, they could have also shown Natasha having some hesitation and fear when she decided to destroy the Red Room for good, they could've shown her having nightmares, vomiting, having flashbacks of this moments of torture when she was a kid and still trying to keep herself strong to face her past. Throughout the whole movie she seems just fine when she figures out the Red Room still exists and gather everyone to go help her, she doesn't show any kind of hesitation about this "horrible past" she had, which is disappointed considered in every trailer or commercial they tried to sell the movie as "Natasha facing her past" but she deals with the situation just like she dealt with any other previous villain, it doesn't seem something actually connected with her. That's just what I think, I still like the movie a lot.
This opening shows how characters like black widow and hawkeye should have R rated movies... But Disney doesn't have the balls... Especially not on members of the avengers... They want to keep the kid fanbase
If was so strange seeing Marvel Studios in an opening credits sequence this dark. The camcord shots of all the girls made me legitimately uncomfortable. And the fact that it was a cover of this song and not some dark ominous orchestra added to it
@@sia6045 Nah I’m talking about the opening credits. Yeah Peter’s mother dying was a really dramatic moment, but the opening credits to that movie was Peter singing along to a song. The opening credits to this one was a montage of girls being trafficked and conditioned. WAAAAY darker
I mean did you guys expect sunshine’s and rainbows 😂😂 And also ngl I was a little bit frightened by this but it does look cool because it gives the movie the chance to tell a more mature gritty storyline
Curious fact: At the beginning of the film, it is set in 1995, the same year that Carol Danvers arrives on earth and the events of Captain Marvel take place.
I don’t know if I’m the only one that thinks this; but this scene here makes me better understand why Romanoff throughout the entire MCU series seems so closed off to everyone around her. Even when she seems to have a romantic connection with someone (like Steve Rogers or Bruce Banner), it only goes so far. She even says in this film that she has lived many lives. This is a really cool introductory scene to the film, because it reveals more about the bleakness and tragedy of Romanoff’s entire life.
Loki is actually pretty dark. The humor kinda mask's it but It literally featured a scene of Loki joking about a volcano wiping out Pompeii and a civilization losing their only hope getting off of an alien planet.
@@pyromaniac034 I wouldn't necessarily say that's dark. While yes, these are negative situations, the way they are portrayed is not dark whatsoever. For example: Even when thanos wiped out planet after planet, the mcu didn't seem dark, it just seemed "evil" / "sad". The black widow opening credits is just a whole nother vibe imo, gives me more daredevil vibes rather than mcu vibes, but I think it's a step in the right direction.
The reason why this intro is the most perfect thing in the MCU is because of how real it felt. It disconnects with the supernatural of the Marvel universe and focuses on the horrors of our society and how those without powers have to deal with and handle them.
When I watched this movie for the first time I was on a plane. It was a late night flight so I decided I should watch this. Watch the start of it not expecting much, and then this scene starts. I remember sitting in my chair just staring at the screen, with my eyes watering. I felt completely out of control and just sat there and watched this as I just couldn’t bear to look away. My eyes dotted from left to right as the scenes flashed like mason from BO1. Plus the music just made this scene hit all the more hard and made it feel all the more real.
Now I feel bad for Woody.EXE because he got abandoned by some kid a few years ago so I decided to take him on. He tells me and my 2009 Woody the backstory of how Woody.EXE got here and it made my 2009 Woody cry that Woody.EXE hugged him saying “Woody, look at me; I’m okay!” I even cried
I think this is the best "scene" in an MCU movie. It is so haunting and it really demonstrates the themes of the movies and the experiences Natasha, Yelena, and the other Widows went through. I was so surprised that they did opening credits, as most Marvel movies don't but this was fabulous.
It felt really authentic until the end of this scene and I thought "I'm going to watch a really really good movie", but after this scene, It just became a regular superhero movie.
Now THAT's the movie I wanted to see. Natasha had an awful life before The Avengers. It's already been established that she never had a family or anyone she cared about. A gritty revenge story of her taking down the Red Room and Dreykov, would have been amazing. I loved Yelena, don't get me wrong, but a family comedy was just such a disingenuous take on a Black Widow movie. It had so much potential.
Disney sometimes does this thing where they KNOW they have a chance to go off in a certain direction and actually make a mature fucking movie, then they go off and do the family-friendly thing because a raging anti-semite decided to draw a line about it decades ago. It's the biggest issue with the MCU being under this studio. They can never make a true piece of art without it sticking to this ludicrous box they've put themselves in. You look at this, and you just feel Cate wanted to go in a different direction but she's shackled with the bs the studio forces on every director. So disappointing.
when Dreykov said "the one resource the world has too much of. Girls." this scene was the most real and horrifyingly heartbreaking one I've seen in a Marvel movie Edit: This is MY opinion stop telling me its wrong
@@orianar8344 I didn’t see it as a reference to child trafficking. The first thing I thought of was an 8 year old boy who says “ew girls!” But like I said I missed the point
By far my favorite intro in any Marvel movie. I just wished they maintained this dark and moody tone throughout the rest of the film. We could have had something truly special.
wait, so you mean, the scene that dreykov took natasha's free will and show her that his daughter did survived but raised by him as his personal puppet didnt count as a dark tone. it was literally the third act of the movie
imagine if the BW movie was more about Natasha's journey in the Red Room, and ended with her eventual escape and her joining shield. Damn what a miss. :(
Very Dark. "Remove the defects" The girl's screaming face just before the words black widow come on screen. The robot-likeness of the carton watching girls. The white sheet being pulled over the girl's face.
I cried at this scene it’s so powerful. The saddest thing is that human trafficking like this is such a big issue. I’m glad marvel are using their platform to spread awareness of these issues.
This must be the darkest opening credits I’ve ever seen in the MCU. Children being separated to be brainwashed to be killers. Even the song just gives you instant chills down the back of your spine!
I saw Vladimir Putin in the opening.
@@nikolaspapanagnou2723 The Villain was also seen with President Carter, President Clinton, Boris Yeltson, and Condoleeza Rice among others. Demonstrating that the Widows were used by both Super Powers.
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The original song is amazing, but the way they used it here is just so stupid
@@Nova-fh2et Nah, you're the stupid one. They used the song here to perfection, hits you right in the feels.
The scariest part is that although the red room is fictional, human trafficking like this do exist in real life, might even be more brutal.
Also, children in armed conflicts happen way too often
@Days of Summer they aren't, it's not even possible to livestream through TOR
human trafficking is awful. but not more brutal than brainwashing children to turn them into killing machines
That is so true. And slavery is bigger than ever. It is truly tragic.
Shame the film makers support China who are largely responsible for it
I really wish Black Widow was it’s own trilogy years ago, so that the first could be focused mostly on her growing up in the Red Room.
It’s sad she got the solo movie years after even tho she is one of the first avengers like I thought she had two more
EXACTLY
She's not that big of a character to get a trilogy, she's lucky she even got a film.
@@kermitdasewersidefroggy74 um i understand what your saying but the tone that you said it in could be taken the wrong way. but also her experience in the red room etc.. if it was really dived in depth it could get a 2 idk about a 3 but a 2 defo
@@kermitdasewersidefroggy74 she is a big enough character and Feige wanted a movie for her after Thor, but he kept getting declined by Perlmutter. He almost wanted out of the DCEU because of him, but now he’s fired and Feige has control over everything now.
That’s why Black Panther and Captain Marvel finally came out, way too late tho
The way they showed real life politicians sent chills down my spine. While the movie itself could’ve been better, this opening sequence is honestly the best one in the MCU.
LMFAOOOOOOOOO
You know that is propaganda right?
@@hammondmay7545 Insightful.
@@shivinshivin3372 No, it’s a movie.
Infinity war? Thor 3? Iron man? Guardians of the Galaxy 1 and 2? Age of Ultron? Wayyy better than Black Widows cringey ass opening
This is probably the darkest scene in any mcu and it terrifying that girls all over the world experience shit like this because of human trafficking. I actually teared up watching this the first time
I watched this today, and I was genuinely terrified watching it. I couldn’t believe that was actually what it’s like
Finders Cult and Franklin Credit Union Scandal. This type of terror happens closer to home that we would like to think
it is but i think the darkest was john walker beating the flag smasher, they showed all the blood.
young men and anyone of all ages really experiences it too, it’s scary
@@its_jsk of course men experience it too. But it’s important to note that the majority of the victims are female. I’m pretty sure it’s like 90% of trafficked victims are minors that are female
i’m so glad they didn’t sugar coat this. i think the red room is one of marvels darkests things. if you rlly think about it, it’s human trafficking. i even love how in the movie the line “recycling what the world has too much of, girls” was used. it rlly just shows the reality that sometimes women are targeted just to be used and treated like they’re nothing
It was sex trafficking.
they sexually abused the girls on a weekly basis in the red room.
they stole them from their families and killed them if they weren’t strong enough. It was straight up evil but also straight up human trafficking.
men and others of all ages are treated liek this too, it’s a problem
Too bad the "mind control" trope was used, taking away from the harsh reality and darker more realistic tone set in the intro.
@@OnlyBrodie._ gender shouldn’t matter on its classification just what happens to the victim
@@1Chasg that’s called accurate to the comics
“The red room is your home now”
That line always brings a shiver down my spine.
tf? 539 likes and no comments?
1:26 The way Dreykov touches Natasha on the cheeks also terrifies me.
I think we can all agree that this movie had the best intro out of all marvel movies
Aside from WS yes
Forget marvel out of all films
The incredible Hulk too
I think we can all agree this scene did NOT feel like a marvel movie at all
Disney*
Why?
Felt like a call of duty intro
Felt like Shindlers List to me
@@Nova-fh2et because of how dark and realistic it is, compared to all the goofy stuff Marvel has done such as Ant Man, Spider-man Homecoming, Guardians of the Galaxy and Thor Ragnarok.
This was scene was probably the best from the whole movie. This intro just take my breath away how amazing it looked. It didn't felt like I was watching a marvel movie it felt like I was watching a movie about cold war. I absolutely loved this. And it absolutely fit the theme of the movie.They should definetly do more of these intros. Music, Action, enviroment and those details were incredibly in this movie.
Winters soldier have this atmosphere and vibe , mcu just pussy or disney just can't go 18plus which is sad , hopefully they can go like invincible or zack Snyder Justice League
couldn’t have said it better.
Agreed.
This is the first time I watched through an intro…WILLINGLY!
🤓
It kinda felt like a fan edit it was so powerful, beautiful and emotional I loved it
2:09 if you didn’t notice one of the girls was pulled back from the rest. This implies that the villain sent her to be killed since she “wasn’t good enough” this scene has many good scenes and is something I wouldn’t expect from Marvel. I loved this movie even though some didn’t.
Adding on to this, yeah Thanos, Dormammu, Hela, etc are scary, but Draekov is scarier. His political power and being so high up is what makes him the scariest. Like he said, he can start and end wars with a snap of his fingers. That’s what makes him so scary. The realism of it. The fact that he could be real. That he “is” real.
Bro I noticed her looking sideways but didn't realise he pulled her from the queue. You've got an incredible eye, and this sort of detail I what I live for.
@@shogunraid4302 thanks. I could say more things I noticed probably already noticed it.
@@Synthesyn342 Yeah I got a few subtle things just the line up thing was crazy, felt like the villain was more intimidating in this scene than the whole movie for stuff like that, but that's my opinion of it. Still a good villain with a good background.
@@shogunraid4302 yeah agreed.
Omg you have an incredible eye! As many times as I’ve watched this opening, I never knew why she looked over until now!!!
May sound like a backhanded compliment, but for me this was the best part of the movie. Such an incredible piece of work and the editors should really be proud.
It truly is. Even though it's a superhero film, it focuses on a real disturbing real world issue and the cover of smells like teen spirit is very haunting and honestly made me forget it was a Marvel movie for a bit. I don't know how best to describe it because I still enjoyed the film, but I wish the film was more like the opening and downplayed the superhero aspect and maybe told a more grounded and mature story. Not necessary a hard R movie but went with more serious and somber tone. Reminds me of a Punisher MAX story arc called The Slavers in which Frank Castle goes against human traffickers and the overall story feels very different from a usual Punisher tale of him gunning down bad guys.
@@therogueprince3790 fully 100% agree with you
This part made me cry because this is shit that actually happens...it's fken heartbreaking.
Definitely a highlight of a complete solid movie
I wish the whole film was like this.
I think the scariest thing about this guy, what arguably makes him one of the scariest Villains for me, is just how realistic he is. Stealing desperate little girls off the street for nefarious purposes? Not that wild a concept.
exactly, it's scary cause its real
I feel like this scene would of been controversial during when the Me Too movement was just becoming a thing
@@XVNRX I definetly feel like this movie wouldve benefitted in its second half with a less superhero feel The plot is so promising but the villain doesnt deliver for some reason
@@Glitcher726 yeah there’s a lot of things they held back on it felt like
I'm pretty sure no one steals little girls off the streets to turn them into worldwide assassins, most likely just to rape or enslave them
After watching this opening, I finally see that Natasha has the most tragic childhood compared to the other Avengers. I’m happy that she still knows how smile.
Trully She is Mentally one of strongest in group she was able to keep her hearth uncorrupted after all that
“Tell me, how did you keep your heart?” -Melina
She's also the one with the levelest brain of them all. Keeps her cool and understands the situation best
@@thingything4004 “your pain only makes you stronger”
@@mthedirectioner
True. Thinking about our beloved Prince Philip got me stronger than ever and I’m defending 2021 once again
A lot of people want to know more about what happened in the opening credits, but red room is supposed to secret. It’s like the directors and producers telling us ‘we’re not going to show what happened in the red room, because no one is supposed to know what happens in the red room’. The whole reason this film did so well is because like in reality, half the time we don’t know the human trafficking is happening. It’s relatable.
The real writer of this movie was human trafficked. 🤫
@@KK-jt7ud proof?
😂 Did so well sure buddy
"The reason the film did so well"
More like they didn't know How to deal with the Red Room, and showed us Just a Tik Tok coreography of the Widows
No matter what your opinion on this movie was, I think we can all agree that this intro was awesome
Exactly, the movie was a bit forgetable although quite good, but this is the best Marvel intro hands down. I totally didnt expect and was like wtf the whole time.
BW was the side character in her own movie
@VistaCorp Yelena was the main character if you think about it
was expecting black widows origin story such as SHIELD Hawkeye etc
@VistaCorp if you think about it Yelena is the replacement for black widow
No it was a horrible movie I wanted the villain to kill natasha
im actually glad their bringing light to how real human trafficking of young women is. especially a huge platform like Marvel
Marvel has done stories on Human Trafficking before with Punisher.
I just wished they added something in the credits like a website or organization people could go look at for more information. I think that would have been really neat
@@Undidiridium_ That would’ve been great. Just like how Zack Snyder put the su.icide prevention ad in the New Justice league movie because he lost his daughter to sui.cide.
@@Bully_who_made_goblin_Jr_cry sewer side
@@Itsbread302 And Cloak and Dagger!
This movie was great, but I'm disappointed that they didn't focus on this stuff more. This part was dark, realistic, and impactful and they should make a movie soley focusing on this part of her life before she escaped.
LITERALLY. I would have loved if like half or at least like 30 minutes was about what happens during this intro and then the rest could’ve been when they were grown up. I do hope they focus more on the red room tho. I remember being so interested in it when hearing about it in Agent Carter.
@@themysteriousdude757 I couldn't agree more.
I hope they make a movie with with yelena with the same concept vibe as this intro that would be amazing
@@heloounicorn888 exactly. The vibe is essential
Lol but it’s great tho
I love how this didn't feel like a traditional marvel opening, it's ominous and very unerving, and the use of "Smells like team spirit" works really well.
Te imagimas que haci fue el origen del soldado del invierno cuando se convierto en aseino
This opening scene is better than the rest of the movie. Shows parallel to the dark underside of human trafficking and could explore that more, but goes back to the basic formula.
I still liked the rest of the movie.
Yup and after this the tone just nosedive into a typical MCU film
It really is a shame the rest of the movie didn't live up to this scene. The whole plot felt pretty clunky and downright stupid. Yelena made it tolerable though.
Back to formula?
Great opening to a good movie all around
the opening credit scene made me feel like i wasn’t watching and mcu film. crazy. loved it
Felt like it belonged in Taken
After like the 30 min mark it felt exactly like an MCU film. A mediocre one at that
I wish they stuck with this tone throughout the whole movie. Instead it kinda just becomes another MCU movie with less depth than this intro.
@@handsomesquidward5160 bro no way I legit got that movie ready before watchin this
you definitely were watching and mcu film though!!!
The old camera footage literally felt so real. They did such a great job with this movie
Definitely!
It was so dark and realistic. Made me respect Natasha so much more
cate shorthand did a fantastic job with this for sure
@@jimmym9341 it was great but they really should've released it earlier. All the performances were great and I hope we get another shot at Taskmaster. This one was just not it. Great movie though
I love you
i feel like this opening credits needs an award or something, it’s literally perfection.
Having been a victim of human trafficking as a child, this scene brings back so many memories that I had to leave the theater from the breakdown I had.
I can’t believe you went through it. I feel sorry for you. I had a breakdown over the Holocaust back in 2018 and smashed everything in my house. I’ll not forget about my 2018 past and mum’s friend Michelle told me I have emotional and anxiety issues and I knew why I went out of control
It is horrible because once I overthink it I can see it and that’s why I can’t sleep at night anymore because I’m too scared to see the same thing again. Even last Sunday I’ll not forget about how our beloved Lord Mountbatten died and I’m still crying over this one week on. I was also shaking so much throughout the documentary. Now I’m getting dreams about saving Mountbatten just seconds before he died and he fell in love with me in the end. Can’t wait for the dreams where prince Philip finds out
@@nicolelawless3199 Um alright
what happened
@@ppprenxx Guess
Is no one gonna talk about how incredible the actress was that played young Natasha?
Well... her mom is an actress 😉
@Jack Oh i knew it, i knew i saw that face before on other movie xD
@Jack Ever Anderson is 13, maybe I'm reading your comment wrong, please correct me if I am.
Yeah she really sold it the first time i saw it!
@@rodriguezg100 are you a Potter head like me
Dreykov is probably the most purely evil character in the entire MCU. A truly disgusting monster played brilliantly by Ray Winstone. He actually scared me in these opening credits. Wish he had more to do for the rest of the movie.
Murdering half the universe is pretty knarly though
I dunno Ego murdering his children seemed pretty bad to me.
@@drteletubby thanos at the very least still cared for gamora. dreykov turned his daughter into a weapon
Yeah with most action movie villains, someone just tells you that they’re bad and that’s that. In this movie you see exactly what he did and is responsible for. By the end of this intro I was fully convinced that he was a monster.
Absolutely. His ability to take away free will completely and his specifically targeting young girls is just the epitome of evil. Coming out of the movie the one thing I wished they did differently was somehow give more emphasis to both taskmaster and dreykov because there is so much potential with each of them that just couldn’t be explored with the time constraint. After the movie reaches the red room i didn’t get the same sense of power and evil from him but that might just be me.
“I’m worst at what I do best, and for this gift I feel blessed…”
WOW that line hits different in this context. Imagine being raised and trained to be a ruthless assassin, but never being able to shake that feeling of responsibility for all the people you murdered, even though it’s the thing you’re best at. YIKES
I think in this context, it's a bit different. By being good enough to remain in the red room, but not so good that you're the cream of the crop means you won't get sent for the most dangerous missions. Therefore feeling blessed.
The allusions to real life human trafficking really sold how dark and somber this opening was. Really gives an idea of the horrors Natasha and Yelena underwent.
and the horrors that real little girls who get trafficked go through :( I'm sure this puts it lightly
@@himeshoney
I had a breakdown during this scene because it reminded me of Auschwitz for some reason and this actually happened there but way more brutal than that. I was recovering from the night before seeing Black Widow from my breakdown over Prince Philip being gone and that grief totally ruined me
I was not expecting it to happen
I like how it gave us some details on what went on in the Red Room. I can’t imagine the full story tho…
This is the most horrific, heartbreaking, and depressing opening scene I’ve ever seen but it truly sets the mood of the entire film and shows the dark side of the world. Wars, human trafficking, human experiments, and child exploitation do exist and it’s something we tend to want to ignore but this scene forces us to watch it and acknowledge it.
Bro it does not reflect the movie whatsoever, although I feel like if they really emphasized that part of natasha’s life and she coped would have made for a much better movie
@@jazazo8392 I agree I want more Nat and Yelena early life backstory in the red room, the start of the film was so strong then act 3 felt like a typical marvel film I really want more of these two, they had such great chemistry.
@@charleyc2501 yeah, movie was good but nothing crazy lol. 6-7/10 for me
Shame they didn’t keep this tone for the rest of the film.
The sad part is I though that Black Widow wasnt gonna be that typical Marvel jokes movie because of the intro I thought it was gonna be dark but instead its just a typical Marvel movie with the awesome action scenes and the overusing of jokes
watching this opening credits was really surprising to me. was thinking "shit, this is an mcu film?"
I’m glad marvel is going in a darker direction I think it’s the right time to do it
@Ligma Balls that’s fair, I was thinking MCU wise
It was amazing that first scene, but kinda went into a MCU kind of direction as the film went on. Still a good film though
@@josh-qj2zu
As much as I love the MCU, they really need to chill with the unnecessary jokes, otherwise it’s going to end up like the CW.
@@theawesomebat1244 The jokes are fine. Some of y’all just overreact or want a film to be stale
Black Widow is not my favorite Marvel movie but this scene was amazing
I wish the rest of the movie had the same tone as this opening scene.
This villain was, for me, one of the most terrifying ones. He's basically a child trafficker and abuser on steroids. This scene just breaks my heart for how realistic it gets to be
Too bad the rest of the movie was your usual marvel movie, this could have been the best movie in the mcu
Not even on steroids, he was spot on.
He reminds me of Beriya, stalins head of his secret police
Who was known, in part, on top of being the one to order most of the executions and genocide of the soviet union, for…molesting young girls….
He was executed in the weeks following stalins death
When his house was years later turned into an embassy, they found several skeletons of young girls buried around the property
Just like drekhov he was a spymaster, manipulator, human trafficker, and molester
@@sebastiancarrillo7083 Absolutely true
@@sebastiancarrillo7083 it wasn't your usual MCU film, it was awful. But I do agree this could have been the best film in the MCU if it had this tone the whole way through. But then people would be disappointed that it wasn't R-rated. Which was actually considered, apparently, believe it or not.
Good lord, that scene in Age of Ultron with Wanda hypnotizing Natasha is even more haunting now
Age of Ultron was awful. Not to mention written by the real villains of Marvel.
@@wiinterflowers4277 what
@@Austyn_Young7 joss whedon lol
@@mohamedamin-vl3wu I like how hes a villain for both DC and Marvel
@@wiinterflowers4277 it wasn't awful
DC : Im so dark .
Black Widow intro : Hold my beer .
Hold my vest with pockets.
At least dc has a consistent tone, this movie was torn between edgy And humour
@@FAlty75 Too bad that DC doesn't know how to create a decent cinematic franchise.
The only thing dark about DC is the lighting
@@14..lily.y i see you've mastered your memes .
This scene makes me wish Marvel did more opening credits like this. This scene kind of gives the same vibes as James bond.
This is way more hardcore than Bond.
I wish the same people who made the opening of this movie decided where it was headed.
Disney allowed this scene to happen in the movie. And it's fucking brilliant.
It's nothing too explicit. Minda wish they keep the darker tone of this opening throughout the movie
@@daffaagung i loved this film and i agree act 1 and 2 felt so gritty then act 3 started to feel like that classic marvel film. I wish they stuck with that darker tone.
Your pfp says cp in a video about child trafficking
Sus
@@charleyc2501 act 3 was good too until they started free falling and nobody got hurt. Generally speaking the movie was amazing until the last 20 minutes which is where it went downhill. It was still good, but a bit too Marvel-ish even for a Marvel movie. Definitely doesn’t deserve all the hate it’s getting though
@@doge8825 to be fair I haven't really seen much hate ? I know people are mad about taskmaster that doesn't really bother me the strength in that film was that messed up family that kind of fell back together and the chemistry between Florence and Scarlett was my favourite. I just wanted more red room backstory with Natasha and Yelena.
The first time I watched this scene I started crying, it was so sobering. Like no super soldiers, no thunder gods, nothing so fantastical that you’re like “this could never happen in real life”. There are so many kids in the world who don’t have anyone to protect them, just like in this scene.
How fuck do people cry at this shit tho
@@FAlty75 I cry very easily when I feel any semblance of emotion
@@peachsoylatte Don’t feel like you have to explain your emotions. This scene was extremely sad and impactful as children are trafficked all the time and it is a very real thing. It’s only normal to feel sadness or anger when seeing it.
@@thesingdance101 thank u for saying this! 🥺💗
same i cried for at least 10 minutes from the start when they leave the house until the end of this scene
It's unreal how they initially give you that friendly vibe, just to rip it away. It's chilling and realistic, which makes it all the more visceral.
Loved the movie, but keeping the dark tone would’ve made it so much better. This scene made me cry because of the reality of it. Sometimes dark is better than comedy. Like when Yelena revealed their forced sterilization, Marvel laughed it off but if they would’ve gotten into it, i think it would’ve elevated the movie.
Just imagine:
"Red Room". 12 Episodes. Only on Disney +
I love this concept they will be amazing
yes yes yes god yes
The marvel series suck movies are more impactful
It would be filled with jokes like this movie…
@@FAlty75 Yeah. Disney is a pretty bad coorporation. Homophobic, abeliest, and who knows. probably racist
Just a friendly reminder this takes place in the same universe as the TVA, magic, dimensional beings of darkness, Norse gods, and the jump scene from GotG 2. Seeing something this depressingly and scarily realistic amongst the craziness of the MCU is somehow the thing that stands out the most
Yea it was really shocking and different to see I like it
Your life must be super busy if you can't afford two seconds to spell out a movie's full title
We get many glimpses of this in the mcu despite it having all these powerful beings. Vulnerability is what separates someone who is nearly immortal and human. But this really hit home because it describes our world and the basic understanding of human trafficking and how it runs in everything around the world we just don't see it.
@@Nova-fh2et bruh everyone knows what gotg is. Do you piss on people for spelling u instead of you😂 welcome to the internet you will see this a billion more times
@@Nova-fh2et what is actually wrong with you nerds
I just walked out of the cinema and I’m already youtubing the opening again. An incredible way to set the mood for the whole movie that’s a tribute to a fallen avenger. It’s like now that she’s gone, we hear her story. Makes her passing all the more heart-breaking.
Damnit this is perfect for Black Widow. Why wasn't the whole film like this? The tone of this intro is exactly what the film should have conveyed, similar to Captain America: the Winter Soldier.
because the film would've been 18+ and Marvel can't because it's Disney :/ had so much potential though
@@fiveh3340
It's not just that - the usual Marvel house team was put in charge of the entire third act. Everyone else didn't get any creative input, so we got a lot of cg cartoon nonsense instead of actual emotional catharsis.
@@juststatedtheobvious9633 oh how do you know this? genuinely asking. because that's just :/
@@juststatedtheobvious9633 I could agree, but Moon Knight just blew that out of the water with child abuse, mental instability, etc.
@@chef2042
And Wandavision tapped into similar themes of grief and healing and mental health. So did No Way Home.
But Hawkeye's ending was as shallow as Black Widow's.
The MCU can be very good when talented people are trusted and given freedom to explore their stories. Unfortunately, you can tell when they're trying too hard to keep things light.
we need a winter soldier solo movie for more vibes like this. the brainwashing, the trauma, the dark themes
Yeah. Black widow and bucky have really dark and haunting pasts. It's what makes them such good characters.
They once again had the opportunity to put Nat and Bucky’s backstory together in the Red Room (it’s said that it had connections with Hydra/the Winter Soldier program) but no :___
Or a Disney + series about Red Room during the Cold War with the Red Guardian Melina or an other series about Yelena with the Red Room when she is under the control of Dreykov with assassinations
@@generalwawan7884 PLEASEEEEE, that would be so cool!! but I doubt Disney going further into such dark themes
Stop being so weird
It’s horrific and terrifying that this is realistic. He is a very real villain, stealing little girls off the street for “a better life”. It’s just heartbreaking to know that stuff like this happens in real life.
I thought the parents gave them away voluntarily.
@@tasinal-hassan8268 Nah. They talked about how some kids were stolen from their family
@@nad7140 Apparently Natasha's mother gave her away voluntarily.
@@tasinal-hassan8268 Didn't Dreykov get Nat's mom killed because she kept searching for Nat? Also I think some poor parents were fooled into giving up their kids.
@@captaindeadpool7174 Yeah that was after she was not being returned once Dreykov gave Natasha away to her surrogate parents. Dreykov didn't want to kill her at first, but she was persistently looking for the Red Room. That's why she was removed. But it's true that Natasha was given away by her own mother. She was promised that her daughter would maximize her human genetic potential.
It was usually children from impoverished families who were given away like that.
if you stop watching black widow after the opening credits, it's the best movie in the whole franchise. the more you watch from there, the worse it gets.
Was it hard for them to keep this tone/vine throughout the movie and stop with the unnecessary comedy? :'v
while not necessarily the most evil, dreykov is the most terrifying mcu villain. the other ones are bad, sure, but outside of a few from phase one there’s a campiness to them that makes you remember they’re super villains, that it’s not real. people like dreykov exist in real life, and that chills me to the core.
I think he is people say thanos but drekov does what he does for power and doesn't care who gets hurt thanos does what he does because he thinks it will help
After killian and zemo
Nah, a lot of “campy” MCU villains are somewhat realistic in the way business heads can become extremely greedy and psychotic with their desires. Dreykov is disturbing in this scene alone, every other scene with him I almost wanted to laugh at how much of an old-school Bond villain this guy is. The movie also seems to handwave away the question of how much fucking money he needs for his whole system.
Also he’s apparently had an airship that’s been in the sky since like, the first Avengers movie and has never landed or been noticed by anyone.
Thanos, Zemo and Loki (Earlier phases) were villains with the most interesting backstories and motives
I think it’s the other way around. Not the most terrifying as a villain but the most evil
This opening scene makes me want a red room only room movie about her trying to escape as a kid with the right kid actor that can steal the show it would be so cool or even just her as a adult trying to escape and flash backs to her life in the red room
@Leonardo Santuario L
I feel like that would have a very Sucker Punch sorta movie feel to it.
I beg to disagree
Agreed
I’m sure they’ll do a show on it sometime
Wow.. just wow..
This scene is probably one of the best in the MCU. It really brings awareness to the problems of Human Trafficking that we pretend to ignore. The vocals combined with the acting just creates an amazing story.
All this time I wanted a detailed BW prequel all about the Red Room but I literally couldn’t handle a three-minute long snippet that felt like a horror movie. Tears.
OMG, this film was amazing! The scene with the old cartoons and the girls just starring at the computers was haunting. They were just brainwashed. Poor girls. :(
The cartoon at 2:00 is from an early merrie melodies short
The short is "A great big bunch of you" (1932)
Omg I know!
The scenes that show us shit that is normally used in actual brainwashing is just creepy!
@@kingofthegamers2933 so you are saying those cartoons are shit?
I’m just loving how marvel is exporting real life conspiracies which have been fully declassified ie mk ultra
@@kingofthegamers2933 they are not shit dude, plus the hard work they made for animate them...
Oh wait, are you a cancel culture guy? What a shame
They should have made that into a whole movie.
Exactly my thinking
@@icyk7229 This movie was incredible, realistic, and heart wrenching. Why didn't you like it? Spider man is an unrealistic concept anyways, but I still love it.
@@ascotter how was this movie realistic
gaming andrew bro I think they mean about this scene, yk Human trafficking and people like the villain are real
@@Shadow-qh5cg yes the theme is real and the concept of the villan is real but the third act made everything feel very unrealistic including making the villan one unrealistic towards the end.
I really think this is a metaphor of all the abuse girls are exposed to, human trafficking, wealthy men controlling all of this. Abuse in every place, gymnastics, dance...
I was really moved by this scene
It's not even a metaphor, it's just shown outright.
This is by far, the best opening credit scene in marvel, or even credit scene. The song, the cinematography. It really shows the pain she went through and you think this could never happen in real life, but it does just not in this way. Kids get stolen every day, and they say it will be their new home but it will never be a home to them. The movie was dark, but I don't think it could've been portrayed any other way. Marvel did a wonderful job showing black widow in a view we haven't seen before. This movie is a masterpiece and will forever hold a very special place in my heart.
Cheers to the one and only Natasha Romanoff.
Though the rest of the movie was great, this was definitely the most impactful of the entire film. It just shows how depressing and how terrible the Widow program was. I would actually like to see an entire movie dedicated to the Red Room and BW's past, but it doesn't seem likely.
It'd be cool to have it as a series, where they could explore the mechanisms of the Red Room. I think it would also help develop Natasha, Yelena and the rest of the widows - also Taskmaster. Disney+ series's have become really popular, and with such a recognizable character I think it could be a good idea.
yes please! bucky should be in it too! yk because the widow program and the winter soldier program are related
I don’t really see how a movie like that would work, it would be tough to execute
Yeah would be cool. But she left the team
@@Brightshadow686 but I don’t think a child/ teenage natasha would need to be played by the og actor
this was the darkest thing i’ve seen in the mcu. the first time i watched it i was literally at loss for words. this extremely traumatising thing was showcased amazingly. the song choice, the editing, the young actresses. i could feel their fear and sadness inside of me. it literally made me feel things i just haven’t felt during any other mcu movie. i literally feel the shivers to this day.
@Liam that's not mcu canon
@@joshualapura No one at Marvel, including Kevin Feige have confirmed they are not part of MCU Canon.
@@joshualapura it was...... then disneyplus came and fucking canceled it
@@joshualapura They referenced it constantly. Kids dress up like Cap, they mention Iron-Man and Thor, Karen's office has prior events posted all over the walls, Bloody Mary was there when Sokovia fell in AOU... It's in the MCU whether people want to admit it or not.
@@chrisgreig98 nah it is not cannon also there are rumors that they are planning to Reboot them in the mcu
The movie had so much potential with such an excellent opening, it’s so disappointing to see how it actually went.
They shouldve kept this exact tone throughout the whole film
was i the only one crying..? like damn we’re 15 minutes in and this movie is beating my ass
i was watching in theatre with my dad and younger siblings and i sobbed this scene like broke me
@@audreyhodgson5133 yeah having siblings it just makes even it worse to watch😭
Ikr same
100%
Only when I was thinking of how a little Russian girl’s life would end trying to save the universe by sacrificing herself.
for some reason this my favorite part of the movie?
I can relate
Me too
this and the fight scenes from act 1 and 2 and if you can count a credit scene are my favorite parts
Same. Unfortunately the rest of the movie did not live up to the same tone.
That's literally what I tell people when they ask me how it was
This may be one of the top opening credits scenes I've EVER watched. It's right up there with Terminator 2, which gave me goosebumps and chills in the theater and Watchmen.
I don’t care how many people hate on Black Widow, the movie or the character, the movie was excellent and showed some real life stuff that happens.
Why people hate this movie? It's not the best MCU movie but it's not bad. And the intro excels the intros of every other MCU movies. That intro is some academy awards level stuff.
@@tristanlau1213 I think this movie should have been made before infinity war
@@tristanlau1213 taskmaster
The movie was far from excellent. It had one of the best openings I’ve ever seen and then fucked it up with the action. The plot was thin and the premise was spoon-fed in the first 15 minutes when Yelena had the vial used on her. It all happened way too fast, in order to create a non-stop action scene rather than a movie. The villain was bad. Taskmaster is “big boring killer robot” again and the “big reveal” felt shallow. Draykov’s death was laughable and cheesy. Honestly once the Widows stormed his office and attacked Natasha to set up the grenade toss, I was just about done with the movie. It was constant violence and little to no story. The movie overall was fine, but it doesn’t deliver on the incredible beginning and is more of a side story than an origin story.
It’s good but would’ve been better if it was made after civil war, I appreciate her character more now but this movie would’ve fitted in better if they didn’t kill her off.
This really highlights themes of human trafficking. So heartbreaking and felt their pain, coming from someone who isn't a big Marvel fan. Such a powerful opening
“ big marvel fan “ get the fuck of this video.
@@robinbanda1723 Jeez buddy calm tf down.
@@contrarian9999 sorry Courtney my timbers have been shivered by the likes of you 🥴😂
@@robinbanda1723 Ok buddy.
@@robinbanda1723 so much anger from such a little man
This scene gave me such goosebumps when I first saw it in cinema. It's so incredibly good and yet heartbreaking, I love it but the pain is really damn deep as well
In my opinion, it was well worth buying a ticket just to see the Red Room opening montage scene alone, on the big screen for the first time. The rest of the movie was also pretty good, but this scene was pure cinematic masterpiece. My brain replays the song continuously on repeat and this scene has been living in my head rent-free lately.
Am I the only one who thought this was really badass?
the moment i saw this i knew!
This is when i knew its going to be a good movvie
@Son of Martha except taskmaster
This movie is badass in some parts but in others it was bad and ass.
No it was badass 💯
Cate Shortland: I'll direct it but I want full creative control.
Disney: Lol, no. You can have the opening credits.
Cate Shortland:
Lmfao
Man I wish the whole movie vibe is like this.
This made me very emotional when I was with my mom watching this movie...
I genuinely got goosebumps when watching this in cinema
Same
Me too! And the end credits scene, everyone gasped :)
Same
Yeah
i really wished i watched it in the theatre
While emotional overall, what gave me the teary sensation was the realization that Natasha knows this is Yelenas first time in the red room and her whole world is about to be turned upside down, so she desperately wants yelena to hold onto the picture of when they were younger and still a family
Out of topic but this gives ‘DuckTales’ a darker meaning. In Ducktales (1987-1990), Donald drops off Huey, Dewey, & Louie to his uncle, Scrooge McDuck. With Scrooge’s supervision, he trains the kids to be adventurers like him.
In this case, Nat & Yelena were the “Huey, Dewey, & Louie” to Alexei & Melina’s “Donald Duck”, being forced to be taken by Dreykov (a darker mix between Scrooge & Glomgold) who trains the girls to be assassins.
I didnt realise it wasn't new to natasha, when does the movie mental that and that its yelenas first time
@@DragonRA when Natasha said "she's only 7" or something like that and red guardian said "you were even younger"
Im a huge marvel fan. But this is by far my favorite intro scene because it’s so perfect for the movie and it provokes so much thought.
This villain is so creepy not only because of how brilliant the performance is but also how realistic he is. With people like Jeffrey Epstein in this world and all the underground shit.
Also you can’t see ice giants or mad scientists everywhere but I encourage you to look up sex offenders near you. It sadly is such a big thing in the world we live in and many of us will never know the reality of a helpless girl in danger which happens every hour of every day, everywhere in the world.
Overall the scenes, music, theme and genre of this intro are very powerful.
this scene was phenomenal, the movie peaked in its opening credits lol
I wish the film would’ve gone into the more psychological / scary aspects of the Red Room; like this and the flashback in Age of Ultron
omg yes!!! but I think that would be too "dark" for Disney, idk
Yes, instead of the garbage that came after the intro
I wish the movie was made as a psychological thriller. It set up as one but then turned into just a regular superhero movie. With Natasha on the run, her dark past, brainwashing, the Red Room, her traumatic life experiences... it was all a perfect mixture to create a really good psychological action thriller. A major missed opportunity. I wonder if Cate Shortland had planned on it but faced too much studio interference, because this opening scene is such a huge tonal contrast to everything else that comes after.
@@jeaniebeanie6 exactly, it could cover how she could escape the red room, sort of like a Promised Neverland but movie thing.
@@jeaniebeanie6 yes, they could have also shown Natasha having some hesitation and fear when she decided to destroy the Red Room for good, they could've shown her having nightmares, vomiting, having flashbacks of this moments of torture when she was a kid and still trying to keep herself strong to face her past. Throughout the whole movie she seems just fine when she figures out the Red Room still exists and gather everyone to go help her, she doesn't show any kind of hesitation about this "horrible past" she had, which is disappointed considered in every trailer or commercial they tried to sell the movie as "Natasha facing her past" but she deals with the situation just like she dealt with any other previous villain, it doesn't seem something actually connected with her.
That's just what I think, I still like the movie a lot.
this scene was an absolute cinematic masterpiece
Too bad the rest of the movie wasn't anywhere near as good.... Still can't believe they butchered Taskmaster
Yes, compared to the garbage that came after it
Eines der besten Intros die ich bis jetzt gesehen habe
This opening shows how characters like black widow and hawkeye should have R rated movies... But Disney doesn't have the balls... Especially not on members of the avengers... They want to keep the kid fanbase
If was so strange seeing Marvel Studios in an opening credits sequence this dark. The camcord shots of all the girls made me legitimately uncomfortable. And the fact that it was a cover of this song and not some dark ominous orchestra added to it
It’s not really strange. Guardians of the galaxy opened up with Peter’s mom dying in a hospital bed from cancer
@@sia6045 Nah I’m talking about the opening credits. Yeah Peter’s mother dying was a really dramatic moment, but the opening credits to that movie was Peter singing along to a song. The opening credits to this one was a montage of girls being trafficked and conditioned. WAAAAY darker
@@goonishereva EXACTLY. This keeps haunting me! One of the best opening scene and credits
I mean did you guys expect sunshine’s and rainbows 😂😂 And also ngl I was a little bit frightened by this but it does look cool because it gives the movie the chance to tell a more mature gritty storyline
if you want an opening dark credits, go watch se7en opening.. nothing beats that
And I thought Hydra were crazy.
lmaoooo
Leviathan is the real shit
@Thanos I wished Ross tagged along to witness an Avenger like Natasha at work.
@Thanos That should have been awesome during The Snap
oh yea definitely
Curious fact:
At the beginning of the film, it is set in 1995, the same year that Carol Danvers arrives on earth and the events of Captain Marvel take place.
The best part of the whole movie
And Natasha saving her sister, Yelena could’ve died but I’m glad she didn’t
I don’t know if I’m the only one that thinks this; but this scene here makes me better understand why Romanoff throughout the entire MCU series seems so closed off to everyone around her. Even when she seems to have a romantic connection with someone (like Steve Rogers or Bruce Banner), it only goes so far. She even says in this film that she has lived many lives.
This is a really cool introductory scene to the film, because it reveals more about the bleakness and tragedy of Romanoff’s entire life.
I really hope the MCU furthers into a more darker path with some of their films. Super excited for MOM!
Huh? Mom?
OHHH MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS, yeah me too bro
Loki is actually pretty dark. The humor kinda mask's it but It literally featured a scene of Loki joking about a volcano wiping out Pompeii and a civilization losing their only hope getting off of an alien planet.
@@pyromaniac034 I wouldn't necessarily say that's dark. While yes, these are negative situations, the way they are portrayed is not dark whatsoever. For example: Even when thanos wiped out planet after planet, the mcu didn't seem dark, it just seemed "evil" / "sad". The black widow opening credits is just a whole nother vibe imo, gives me more daredevil vibes rather than mcu vibes, but I think it's a step in the right direction.
Lol, mom.
The reason why this intro is the most perfect thing in the MCU is because of how real it felt. It disconnects with the supernatural of the Marvel universe and focuses on the horrors of our society and how those without powers have to deal with and handle them.
This is honestly the best scene in the entire MCU for me.
The amount of times that I've rewatched this. The song added so much to it, shoutout to Malia J for the cover
I thought it was MYTH & ROID tbh 😅😅😅
I agree she did her shit on this cover and the editing on this video insane I can’t stop watching either
Yeah the cover is amazing, it gives me chills every time
what is the name of the song?
The song is the best/worst part of this clip its stuck in my head now HHHHHHHEEEEEEEELLLLLLLPPPPPP
this scene was so emotionally impactful and dark that the theater was DEAD SILENT i mean nobody made any noise it was awesome
No kidding , shit sent chills down my spine
yeah at the theater I was at everyone was so quiet that you could hear me trying to open my bags of lollies and it was really awkward.
Yep everyone was so quiet
So in short, the jokes are all flat?
@@showmeyourmoves8551 Wdym?
Picturing it now, "Red Room", a Netflix original series to the caliber of Daredevil, The Punisher, and Jessica Jones
When I watched this movie for the first time I was on a plane. It was a late night flight so I decided I should watch this. Watch the start of it not expecting much, and then this scene starts. I remember sitting in my chair just staring at the screen, with my eyes watering. I felt completely out of control and just sat there and watched this as I just couldn’t bear to look away. My eyes dotted from left to right as the scenes flashed like mason from BO1. Plus the music just made this scene hit all the more hard and made it feel all the more real.
Now I feel bad for Woody.EXE because he got abandoned by some kid a few years ago so I decided to take him on. He tells me and my 2009 Woody the backstory of how Woody.EXE got here and it made my 2009 Woody cry that Woody.EXE hugged him saying “Woody, look at me; I’m okay!” I even cried
So dramatic 🤣
I think this is the best "scene" in an MCU movie. It is so haunting and it really demonstrates the themes of the movies and the experiences Natasha, Yelena, and the other Widows went through. I was so surprised that they did opening credits, as most Marvel movies don't but this was fabulous.
Not to mention only about 1 in 20 taken survive training and when they fail they are immediately killed with out a thought
so far …
It's absolutely brilliant, especially for an MCU flick. Touches upon challenging and gritty themes.
I agree
I legit got emotional during this.
This is heartbreaking
I feel like we are living through her (nats) PTSD in this scene
Same I was holding back tears
Everybody got somewhat emotional for sure especially me and I’m not a cryer
Same.. it looks too realistic. It’s literally trafficking. To think there are ppl, kids going through this all around the world. I almost cried
It felt really authentic until the end of this scene and I thought "I'm going to watch a really really good movie", but after this scene, It just became a regular superhero movie.
Now THAT's the movie I wanted to see. Natasha had an awful life before The Avengers. It's already been established that she never had a family or anyone she cared about. A gritty revenge story of her taking down the Red Room and Dreykov, would have been amazing. I loved Yelena, don't get me wrong, but a family comedy was just such a disingenuous take on a Black Widow movie. It had so much potential.
Disney sometimes does this thing where they KNOW they have a chance to go off in a certain direction and actually make a mature fucking movie, then they go off and do the family-friendly thing because a raging anti-semite decided to draw a line about it decades ago. It's the biggest issue with the MCU being under this studio. They can never make a true piece of art without it sticking to this ludicrous box they've put themselves in. You look at this, and you just feel Cate wanted to go in a different direction but she's shackled with the bs the studio forces on every director. So disappointing.
when Dreykov said "the one resource the world has too much of. Girls." this scene was the most real and horrifyingly heartbreaking one I've seen in a Marvel movie
Edit: This is MY opinion stop telling me its wrong
I thought it was the silliest. He sounded like an 8 year old. Maybe I missed the point.
Edit: I understand it now thanks for correcting me everyone
@@paleperson4684 i think you did a little lmao it was definitely A COMMENTARY ON REAL-WORLD ISSUES sorry accidentally turned on caps lock lmao
You gotta give it up for Marvel for bringing in something like this 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@@paleperson4684 i don't think child trafficking is silly, neither do slavery but that's my opinion
@@orianar8344 I didn’t see it as a reference to child trafficking. The first thing I thought of was an 8 year old boy who says “ew girls!” But like I said I missed the point
By far my favorite intro in any Marvel movie. I just wished they maintained this dark and moody tone throughout the rest of the film. We could have had something truly special.
@@PacifyKy umm... both guardians movie and the incredible hulk has an opening credit
@@PacifyKy It's not tho. Guardians 1 and 2, Incredible Hulk, and Iron Man 2 do as well.
@@PacifyKy maybe you should look a little more closely at your fun facts.
wait, so you mean, the scene that dreykov took natasha's free will and show her that his daughter did survived but raised by him as his personal puppet didnt count as a dark tone. it was literally the third act of the movie
@@barisbal7782 yeah how Dreykov acted in that scene was disturbingly realistic(It’s a compliment).
imagine if the BW movie was more about Natasha's journey in the Red Room, and ended with her eventual escape and her joining shield. Damn what a miss. :(
Would've been to late.
It was an amazing movie anyway
Very Dark.
"Remove the defects"
The girl's screaming face just before the words black widow come on screen.
The robot-likeness of the carton watching girls.
The white sheet being pulled over the girl's face.
I cried at this scene it’s so powerful. The saddest thing is that human trafficking like this is such a big issue. I’m glad marvel are using their platform to spread awareness of these issues.
It has nothing to do with awareness
@@Nova-fh2et yeah it is y else make the intro its to show how hard it is for these girls so no need to play devils advocate
they did bc it’s black widows backstory bruh
If you cried at this jeez 😐
@@madminer8041 if u didnt feel any emotion at this scene, I am scared for you
I think that's a surprisingly dark beginning for a Marvel movie
best opening tbh
My opinion about it is that it is the best opening credits I have seen out of Marvel so far.
Good. We need more dark openings. Not comedic junk.
@@himikotogacat although DC openings are better
@@professionaltherakeplayer4042 yup I like dc ops more